@@Peachy_crow Yea on Twitter/X is probably crazy. I would also say if your a anime only even don’t even go on TH-cam. There a lot of chapter reviews and even animation of certain fights. JJk fans that keep up with manga are just so vocal within the anime community.
YOOOO Sandman made it to a Joey video. He's been a GOAT in the One Piece twitter community. Actually a 50 something year old Japanese guy with great English who translates a lot of Japanese stuff, mostly correct translations of OP panels.
@@stereokuuji Yeah and he's been reading shonen jump since the 80s or something. Like he literally remembers reading the chapter when Goku went super Saiyan for the first time....when it released lmao.
@@RuggerJugSo he witnessed a great moment in anime history. Imagine the hype of those manga owners back then, must've been as wild as the anime episode.
What's sad about the jjk side of it, leaks are glorified in the community (twitter). I had to brace myself every week for incoming spoilers and that it ruined the experience for me, as a manga reader and for anime-onlys. I had to quit the bird app to avoid spoilers but still get recommended screenshots even on youtube 💀
The JJK spoiling is so insane that a term related to Fate, a completely different IP, recently trended on Twitter that contained instant spoilers for the latest JJK chapter. I couldn't avoid getting spoiled even though I was *actively* trying to. Same with Boruto, and I'm sure it happens with a bunch of other series I don't even read. I find it so maddening that people legit would rather get CRUMBS of story as early as possible instead of experiencing them within the story as intended, and on top of that give *zero* fucks about spoiling other people who don't want to be. They say "don't read the spoilers" and legitimately don't acknowledge that they're actively making it so that I absolutely cannot.
I think the spoiling was pretty bad but it was a pretty interesting experience as long as you weren’t the one being spoiled. Only in JJK you can be spoiled while being caught up to the manga. Even the anime has spoilers and edits not even 30 min after the episode released.
One of the "defenses" of spoiling stuff I hate seeing, is when people say to block words, or get off the Internet. Like a) sometimes it's hard to know every spoiler termonology, like some people will block letters or use different terms to avoid the censors etc. and b) did a global pandemic not teach you everything? This isn't 2001 where people aren't online 24/7. People have jobs, or school, or just want to relax and use the Internet. Like man people just suck.
Not defending people who spoil stuff because yeah. But in terms of people who like being spoiled I don't think it's anything bad. Liking being fed bread crumbs and details on events in the story before actually getting into it is just another way of experiencing the story and just because it may not be the intended way doesn't mean it's a bad way. It's not like they're hurting anyone else that way.
I’m all for fan translations because they are very important for series that will never get a translation, but leaking a popular manga being translated all over the world is just terrible.
I agree , There's a clear difference between me and my buds translating a raw chapter because we think the official translation doesn't do enough effort (& because we think it's fun) and me and my buds sneaking into Shueisha's office/store , copying/scanning unreleased chapters and spreading them on the internet just because 3-4 days is too long of a wait for us to have the official release .
I am subscribed to the Shonen Jump App and one thing that always bothers me is that leaked chapters are usually online 3-4 days before they show up in the app. soo Social media, including youtube is packed with video reactions, spoilers, etc that mess up the whole experience. Honestly if Shonen really wanted to battle this they should release Digital first in Japan, and within a couple of hours the rest of the world. Like you said, similar to Crunchyroll and other media.
Just a correction, the chapters on the Shonen Jump App or MangaPLUS are getting released simultaneously , that is midnight japan time, one the same day as the physical release in stores. We aren't receiving the chapters a few days later than japan, as said in the tweet in the video, leaks are photos or scans made by bookstore employees before the official release. It's those who partake in leak culture that are ruining it for all of us.
Back in the golden age I worked for Blockbuster Video and we would get the new movies/games in on Fridays(sometimes thursdays) and we would process them for release day on Tuesday. We essentially had access to the movies/games for the weekend before the general public. We did sign contracts everytime but still we were first. I wasn't privy to the machines to make copies but some of the staff did and they did make copies and "gifted" them out.
I just want to say, a big reason atleast for me and many others for reading the Fan Translations and Scans of Manga, is the sole reason that Shueishas official scans are of much lower quality, and the English translations, ESPECIALLY for JJK, are REALLY bad. Fan translations are so much better. You would think that someone who's getting paid to translate would do a good job, but sometimes the translations are so off, the whole story gets misunderstood, JJK being a phenomenal example of this.
Honestly, I think fan translation at least getting a pass because they're waiting for official release of raw instead of using leak. Seriously, leak is horrendous to be translated.
@@mitacestalia7532 The raw version you are mentioning IS the one that is getting leaked. Fan translators use that and they publish chapters before their release in Japan and worldwide.
Probably because translators of anime/manga are not really paid that well, so if you are a semi decent translator you go for a government or just a better paying job.
Honestly, fan translations are fine esp bec there is problem with the official translations. My biggest irk is against those who release it BEFORE the official. Like, we are getting a FREE official translations of these chapters SIMULTANEOUSLY, it's not perfect, but let's at least respect that.
Japan seems more concerned about leaks which some people think mean fan translation which while very similar wasn't the point of the article. They are concerned that Japanese people will not buy the magazine which actually costs them money. They are well aware that most people who read fan translation end up buying legal copies once it becomes available in their country because hard copies are better to own in fact the hard core even buy Japanese copies
it's kind of understandable tho. I assume in Japan manga is affordable because in other countries the price can be expensive. Like damn, one manga nowadays is equal one fancy meal in my country. Not to mention, leak isn't official release. I think gans translation is okay because they're waiting for official raw translation before working it out.
Stores hold onto copies of upcoming manga releases. There is always a specific time from I fine in leaks. Sometimes the raw scan comes out about 5-6 days in advance of release and translations a day or two after.
Books being sold early is actually extremely common worldwide. I personally bought the chainsaw man volume 11 English volume a week before its release. Theoretically anyone could read shonen jump early if they hunted around bookstores enough. Only issue here is the fact that the leakers are pirating the books by photographing and uploading them.
Buy the paperback copies sure, but how much money do you think really goes to the authors when you pay the app subscription or buy the shonen jump magazine. I’m willing to bet it’s a fraction of a fraction compared to selling the full books. Yes leaking hurts the authors too but it’s the corporations coming after the leakers for the corporations money, not the authors.
Man, I miss when spoilers were only on anime forums and blogspot. Also, when people were nice and never spoil stuff for other people. Showing my age right now. Lmao
I used to work at a bookstore and it's a pretty big deal if material gets out before its release. Granted, employees would call dibs on some books to buy first, but we never got into the material before it got to the floor.
Yeah, I think better accessibility and releasing manga digitally in all countries and languages simultaneously would really help with the leaking issue. Sticking to the print format requires there to be publishers and book shops to stock shelves-creating an opportunity for there to be a man in the middle to leak chapters early. (Currently, they print copies and send it to be distributed, then all shops and digital versions are released to the public at the same time, so the digital versions are essentially just waiting for the paper copies to be distributed.) I think Japan is too attached to physical media to ever make that transition, but if they did, it would really help, since having 1 department of translators (Japanese to whatever other language) is easier to keep track of than translators, publishers, shore workers, shipping workers, etc.
the thing is the other WSJ series are just totally fine. No one is leaking the latest chapters of Blue Box or MamaYuyu because, well, theres no demand for it. Only like 4 or 5 WSJ titles out of 20 get consistent leaks now-- one piece, jjk, mha, now even sakamoto days and sometimes kagurabachi. i wouldve honestly agree that this is a service issue if we did not get the chapters for free but we do get it for free. i think the community issue is just bigger than it is a service one. Action/Battle shonen fans are just too impatient nowadays, leakers are glorified and are clout chasing, and scanlators are incentivized to post chapters as fast as possible because they earn money through ad revenue on their site.
Same. However, I also need to avoid getting spoiled on TH-cam, which is a bit difficult since TH-cam tends to recommend these leak videos on their algorithm. Just try not to watch anything related to that specific show or video game. That helps lower the risks of spoilers. Also, try clearing and disabling your watch history as well.
I understand this situation, about the leaks and why is wrong. Also, I try and buy physical manga volumes every time that I can (which is a pain considering the LATAM country where I am) That being said, when I have to chose between paying my bills or 800+ streaming services to "properly" watch anime,and a very limited quantity because of geo restrictions, (so I would have to pay a VPN too!) nah-ah, sorry not sorry ,☠️
and shit be hella expensive, how am i gonna get a manga if it costs about 10% of my monthly wage?? the worst part is that they always translate it like shit to spanish or have some annoying argentinian accent
BTW, about manga, most mangas are on the official or licensed platforms. For example, shonen jump has its own platform called Shonen Jump+. So it'd be more convenient to pay subscription fee to these platforms and read many mangas on these platforms
(why my comments continue disappearing?) anyway, simply put, if you got VPN, use VPN to watch anime on TH-cam from Muse Asia or Ani-One Asia, and subscribe to an official or licensed manga website to read as many manga as you want
As someone who enjoys leaks of Yugioh cards coming in Master Duel, no, I do not find it more interesting to wait. I would rather know if I should be saving my free currency in game or not weeks ahead of time.
I think a lot of the times the stores selling the books early doesn't do it out of malice, but out of lack of knowledge of the release date. At least that's the impression I've had when similar situations happen with games. Don't really buy physical copies of games that much these days, but when I was younger I often went around to stores before the game was released and it wasn't impossible to get your hand on the game before it was released. Even if they hadn't put the game on display, if it was a larger department store, just grabbing an employee and asking them about the game, they'd often notice that they had the game in storage and if you were lucky, the employee you grabbed didn't know about the release date so they'd go and get you a copy of the game. These days, even if I did buy a physical copy of a game rather than just stick to digital, I wouldn't really dare play it early with all the online registrations going on, so not really worth running around trying to get the games before they're released anymore😀
i fully stand behind the notion that piracy(not leaking) is a failure of supply/distribution rather than "crime is rampant". most people would just naturally go for the cheapest and most convenient option out there. if a piracy site give me a chapter for free and 3 days before the official release that cost money, well guess which one people are going to check and then obviously not bother to also check the other a few days later. so the official is being beaten on both fronts, not just one. so what chance does it have to be the natural go-to for fans?
Bro, Shonen Jump is cheaper in the west than it is in Japan. In this case this isn’t a supply issue. It’s that people are impatient. Although for JJK specifically, I know that the fan translations are better than the official one.
So you are saying these sites should just offer everything for free, because you can get it for free from the pirated sites. Sounds legit. That's not a failure of supply/distribution, that's just feeling like you shouldn't ever have to pay for anything.
@@thomasffrench3639 Impatient? if scans can get it to you 3 days earlier, why the official can't? they can, they just won't and so people will just read it on pirate sites.
@@moominsean i talked about the time it delivers the chapter and somehow you adressed the payment issue... weird.. as if you ignore the main thing i adressed and attacked me on the side thing that fitted your narative more... i asure you most people would pay the small fee of Jump+ or whatever the online service is and only read One Piece there, if it delivevered the new chapter earlier than anywhere else in high quality and good translation in a site that is easy and convenient to use. people will pay money for quality and convenience, but if the money option is less quality, less quick and less convenient than a free quicker and higher quality product on a piracy site, what advantage does paying the official site has? other than feeling bad for pirating it, but for most people that's not enough.
@@MrGalRoz You literally say if a pirate site gives you something for free and early, why would someone bother paying for it a few days later because they already saw it for free. So sure if money isn't the issue (though you say it is), people should expect official sites to beat out the piracy sites in distribution date if they want money for it. Here's an idea, don't be so impatient that you can't wait a couple days for the official release, and don't even check the pirate sites.
05:30 I'd imagine getting copies of books, magazines, etc. before release date is pretty normal practice for stores to be ready for release date, just like how tech reviewers get tech products before release date so they can prepare their reviews that will be, in turn, also released before the release date of the products.
i dont like the concept of leaks but i did enjoy reading the new jjk chapters with a ton of people simultaneously and having the suspense between the pages since they always took a couple of minutes to be translated
it's difficult to not pirate when your country doesn't have most manga/anime streaming platforms and if they do, they only have a fraction of the material on there (looking at you Crunchyroll)
it's also difficult not to release it before official release schedule, let be honest here the only reason they release early before official is for $$. There are many fan translation that release after official schedule and i don't see any problem with them.
@@acht467 i support both official and scanlation but not leaker, what leaker do is release early so that they get the number. It has nothing to do with the both u listed.
oh absolutely I should've mentioned that I was not justifying leaking. I initially planned to respond to a comment regarding pirating but idk why it's now under the video reply @@fuwaclouds6339
100% on accessibility being the reason for piracy. I’ve actually seen a lot of fan translations stop once a series becomes officially available in English/globally. And I’ve also switched when they become officially translated. Just sucks that smaller works rarely ever get licensed :/
I gave up around chapter 220, on trying not to get spoiled by others and started following the leaks instead. I kind of like getting three different versions (leaks, translated, official). I feel like i get a better perspective on the story.
So let me dumb down the process of how they got manga magazines since Japan is known for their physical copy in manga pretty much all stores purchased and stored before they were released then the seller can sell the manga for a up charge if the consumer demands a early access for the product just like gaming. Example- let say a manga worth $10 dollars on released but if you want to buy said manga early access the store can use this method by charging the manga let say $40 dollars before it released to the public in which the stores make more profit using said demands basically insider trading.
this is almost all true except the markup price. its substantially higher than that its essentially a bribe. there are only a handful of copies which are being "sold" to leakers, otherwise they will get caught pretty easily, so they dont really profit off of markup prices. instead they are just given essentially a bribe. the scanlation groups will pay the raws provider, then the raws provider will pay someone that works at the store.
I think the appeal of leaks is that it sucks letting companies drip feed us content at their own pace. The leak contains info they didn't want us to see, and therefore it feels more genuine. It's like how that big Nintendo leak showed the world that they had assets for Luigi meant for Mario 64, finally putting an end to a long running myth. Not everyone enjoys being teased.
i think its normal over here manga and comics is availble in stores usually 2weeks before the actual release date in U.S. even smaller websites like rightstuf before they got bought out, would ship out manga 2weeks before the release date on their website. stores like amazon wait til the actual release date though
I'm a comic artist in the US. I think the increase in accessibility of media in general is a double edged sword. On the one hand, I love that more people around the world are able to access movies, comics, music, what have you from another country that they never would have been able to 15 years ago. On the other, I think it's created a sort of sense of entitlement. Like when you can easily binge an entire season of a show in one weekend, you're immediately left there going "Okay, well now I want more, and I want it immediately." Without taking into account the hours of labor making that thing took. So people go searching for more, and sometimes it leads them to pressuring creators into releasing things faster or looking for leaks. Media already seems to be coming out at the speed of light, often in an unsustainable way (looking at the anime industry), but for a lot of folks it's just never going to be enough. Which sucks.
I remember I went over 15 years not having anything One Piece related spoiled for me, then Gear 5 happened and within hours there were fanarts on twitter with no captions so they didn’t get muted. Leaks shouldn’t exist and the immediacy of spoiling shit that just came out is also a cancer on the Animanga community.
I literally deleted twitter after 248 chapter of jjk came out, cause I want to read at least 5 chaps in one go, so I have to wait BUT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE not to get a spoiler in twitter these days...
Usually shops will get shipments of new releases one or few days before the release, otherwise they couldn't stock it on the release day. I guess it was mistakenly filled onto the shelves or maybe they just peeked at the stock that's not filled yet and took a picture, it's actually impressive how it doesn't happen that much more often
I think what irks me the most is that the official English translations are actually released simultaneously for FREE!!! If you're a week-to-week reader, who are the people who get affected by these leaks the most, you can read it for FREE!!!
I was working for a big book distributor back when the harry potter books were coming out. I can confirm we got hundreds of pallets of the books even a month before the release date. I think it was the 3rd or 4th book where there was a big kerfuffle about people leaking the books early. So at that time they literally had 24hr armed security guards in the warehouse just to watch these pallets of books. Shit was wild.
Not to send such a late comment but I heard jump is created the weekend before on the Friday they sent out to be public to be released on Monday, but it also is made earlier and it’s given to special people that they trust. It was one of those special people that they trust that gave it to these people which is why they were able to get so early.
Wth it’s snowing in tokyo now and just when i got back from japan 😢 Btw i thought the leak was from them buying the magazine and sharing it online which is why i was soo confused when the leakers showed the latest jjk chapter but the latest jump magazine jjk was on break
I’m so glad this is being talked about and honestly I hope leaks stop being as prevalent as they are. I hate leaks and I hate the mindset that’s formed around twitter and especially TikTok. I’ve seen more people upset they won’t have daily leaks than people who are against leaks and it’s just so upsetting. I do agree with the fact that like yes not everyone can afford all these streaming services especially young people and that for English speakers we get chapters quite a few days later so we still have a chance to be spoiled. I know how it was back when anime was not as mainstream as it is today and it was nearly impossible to find shows officially in English. However I view anime and manga as art because it quite literally is art and I want to support my favorite artists so that way they can continue to create these shows and manga that I enjoy so much. I also think by avoiding for paying for these services the correct way, it feeds into the starving artist and negative connotations in the artistic world. We already are having issues where people don’t want to hire artists or pay them what they deserve and have resorted to AI stealing art. It’s so disheartening to see. Artists deserve to have their works recognized and be compensated fairly for them as well. Please don’t support leaks and think of the people who don’t want to be bombarded with leaks and spoilers every time they open twitter. I’ve had so much of jjk ruined for me because of the leaks. I know a lot of people don’t agree and don’t see the problem with leaks and I agree there are still things that these companies could do to make their series more accessible to overseas audiences but leaking shit on twitter is not the way to go about it.
I don0t really mind leaks, but I'm only a "solo reader" I don't go to foums to find out things so leaks don't really affect me either. I do understand how it can affect some fans and the creators. In my opinion it's ok if you work on a bookshop and you read the chapter before it's oficially out, the only problem is if you take pictures and put it online.
I love how fast the Japanese government can mobilize to protect the corporate IP owners faster than they can protect the workers making it under sweatshop conditions.
Now this explains how fans translated One Piece chapter can come on Thursday, when the official online version came out on Sunday alongside the magazine official release.
The key here is that they couldn't have acess to the magazine without some inside help. Be it in Sueisha print or the stores. But for some reason, when notices like that appears, they never tell if the police will investigate the inside help. It never ends.
Reading leaks is fine for me. I still will go straight to the official stuff right as soon as it's available because it's usually a lot cleaner in many cases. Then it's also interesting to see the cultural variances from the unofficial and the official sides. I think I'm just immune to spoiler fatigue and I like to know what I'm buying before I spend my money.
When your first language isn't English, piracy is the main way to consume the most majority of manga and anime, especially the non mainstream ones. At least, the scanlation waits until the release day or a few days later to publish the translation.
unfortunately thats not the case really for the top mangas anymore i am with joey on the part that i dont really care about spoilers since it doesnt affect most of the things i read anyways but its just so annoying ever since people figured out they can earn cash from scanlations through ad revenues on their sites speed scanning have always been a thing. they are incentivized to get early raws of chapters and scanlate it as fast as possible so that they can get more clicks. it is both a community problem and a service problem in my eyes, because people just want to get things early, even though they can already get it (FOR FREE btw) if they just waited just a couple more days. I can symphatize a bit with JJK because their official translations are subpar (they dont read and flow as neatly for some reason) but One Piece fans? Stephen Paul has done an amazing job on it and has been a pillar of the One Piece community waaaaaaay back before he became an official translator, yet they still want it much earlier, so its definitely not just a service problem. its just a mess honestly, fandoms that cant shut the fuck up about anything, leakers actually being douchebags and chasing internet clout, manga publishers being ehhh about the products they present overseas etc.
Tbh i'm not patient enough to wait a few years until the manga gets finally officially translated in the language i speak. It's nlt about reading the manga before other people, they're just too slow with the translations if it even gets the one you would buy it in the end :)
The only manga I read weekly is One Piece and sometimes it's ho hard to not get spoiled, especially in the point where the story is right now. I often just don't go on Reddit, Twitter or Instagram just to not get spoiled. I read JJK like twice a month and don't get spoiled often, but that one was everywhere.
Its crazy how many people don't seem to know that Shueisha already has an online service that provide the latest chapters for free with no subscription.
@@miljan1399 it's not. I can read a little bit of japanese and kanji and most of the the the fans scans lose contexts of the actual meaning of what the author is saying. Hence we have confused readers from time to time who rely on fan scans
I remember a little while back there were some My Hero Academia leaks surrounding Bakugo everywhere on Twitter/Instagram. I remember being completely shocked by the leak and confused. Knowing what would happen to him kind of ruined my interest in the Manga/Anime for a while because he's one my favorite characters, and love his character growth.
Joey..... all products are available at least a week before release... you know so they have the physical product on the stores first hour on release day
Joey really should have done his research on this because their not leaking non released chapters their leaking the chapters that have not been translated to English i.e. they are simply scanning the shonen jump copies when they drop
If smth is called leaking, it means it got filtrated before their official release by days even in the country of origin. In 8:12 is explained how this happens. It’s not a timezone case where the chapter gets release first in Japan and people share about it before the official English release. It’s straight up people publicly posting unreleased stuff for the sake of self hype or smth (idk how to explain this, English isn’t my first language. sorry!)
@@hinenokubi sorry I know English isn’t your first language ur pretty good but like no shonen jump allegedly releases on a Monday and we usually get the “leaked” chapters by around Wednesday morning gmt or Tuesday depending on time zone. It isn’t to generate “hype” or anything it’s simply a normal thing of people being impatient and wanting to know what happens as the official English make you wait until SUNDAY for a shit translation (if it’s John werry)
For this copyrights thing I do agree with Japan going hard on people for it because I find I am watching videos of '' Let's say Your chanel '' and ill scroll down to hit like and see it was posted on '' ACB" channel and they are selling Merch, I have reported so many for doing this but nothing seems to be done to stop it, I just watched a video that was taken from the original posters channel 20 min after it was aired, I have to wonder how much income are the original uploaders losing when 10 other channels are allowed to take their work and claim fair use,
The issue with only reading official releases is that most times they're not even translated in English. A lot of shojosei works gain their popularity from fan translation and THEN get an official English release.
For me I think there's a big difference when it comes to leaking something that hasn't even come out yet and people grabbing pages and scanlating. I follow a lot of mangas (mostly from weekly Shonen champion) that simply do not even have any official ways to read them in English and it can make it really annoying and so people ripping the pages and translating them is the only way for people overseas to be able to consume that media and it sucks. Tho I'm sure if there was a leaker for that magazine, the same thing would happen and I would be pretty annoyed as well so overall I get it. Leaking sucks.
Leaks affected my reading experience A LOT. No matter if you blocked certain tags, a big vast of people doesn't tag for shit so you get it thrown in your face. Boom, excitement dropped, the shock I'd have felt otherwise gone. BNHA used to be awful with that, but the JJK fandom got worse with the leaks. I absolutely hate that I'd have to disappear for 2/3 days from social media altogether if I wanted to avoid everything. That or block/mute everyone until I reach peace, which I do if I see leaks. I'm actually glad there are now consequences
5:30 So this phenomenon happens in the video game industry all the time, if you remember how bad things went down with No Man's Sky for example, someone stole copies from shipments to physical stores and sold them online several weeks ahead of launch date, some guy bought a copy for 100£ and put a playthrough up on youtube. It was a complete shitshow.
When it concerns streaming. I prefer the sites that are free with ads and you can pay money to take the ads off. Essentially its like giving out free samples and if you want the better package you can buy it. If they started more services with Anime in mind pirating would probably drop down. As for the manga scans. Sadly unless people start paying the legal price it will never end.
On one hand, getting your interests given to you on social media like this is great because you get to see what other people are saying about it, or you can see cool artwork, etc. But the other coin of that sucks because you just get straight up spoilers, ESPECIALLY if the episode just came out. I truly do not understand people's fascination with blurting out spoilers for things (specifically the leakers, I get if it like came out an hour ago and you want to talk to people about it), it just really ruins a lot of interest in the fandom for me personally.
Well I do read them on the high seas, but everyone seems like already cracking down on this lol, Tachiyomi already got killed, although some one will probably make another fork of the same stuff lol.
What abt Mya who posted Jujutsu Kaisen leaks...in his other twitter account it was mentioned his location is India. So how will Japanese police get to him other than banning his account
Thats just wrong., no one should arrested for leaking manga, cases, maybe but that should just be finable at best , not an arrestable offense, thats redicilous
Recommend manhwa and manhua, cheaper and more accessible online! Back in the day, after school, some of my friends just went to the nearby bookstore to buy an official local comics magazine with very cheap price using their allowance. And then share with other friends. I don’t know why manga sometimes is almost as expensive as American textbooks. If the price goes down and Japanese companies stepped out from Galápagos syndrome and related mindset and have more international views and understandings and more international support like a lot of Chinese companies did (for example, hoyoverse and HyperGryph, who made one of Joey’s favorite game called Arknights). There’re gonna be way less people complaining
Leaks will ALWAYS be bad because there is always a group of persons who will get out of the way to spoil it without consent. One Piece has a huge spoiler scene and i think it has the best example of how leaks can be great. Every week i read them and they are always controlled in a certain way (sometimes there is chapter pages leaks but that may be from other sources). It comes in 2 waves and always in text, first wave tells the major events of the chapter, the second wave goes on detail on whats really happening. But what i think is really cool, is that the leakers don't spoil to much, they refuse to spoiler some major appearances and surprises until the second wave. Top of the cake is how One Piece reddit tries to control spoilers outside of the main spoiler thread, i never found a chapter spoiler outside of the thread (i dont scroll much but yea and i don't go to twitter). Spoilers are subjetive but i do love one piece spoilers. In my mind it looks like i have 3 chapters per week cause of the 1st and 2nd wave and then the release.
It's most likely about money. Leakers are probably getting paid and they people they give the leaks to are probably anime content creators trying to be first to break any news so that they get all the traffic and get more money. I highly doubt anyone's doing it solely for Internet points and bragging rights
I don't really mind the leaks cuz john werry manages to fuck up every single chapter man. Like his translations are so off and dialogues start meshing into borderline booger talk. This is why there are leakers for jjk. The other series are understandable because its usually just ppl needing to know the chap content faster. But when it comes to jjk its an exception cuz john werry makes us lose braincells. " Authentic mutual love " ahh 😭
Honestly, the problem with leak is "too early access" where official is not even out yet. You basically won't have problem if the official is out. Even illegal manhwa reader like me and many scanlators out there at least wait until the official release.
Wait these people run quite a large online store selling Japanese products (at least I think so because that company has the same name). They sell anime figures, manga and clothes from Japan to people in the West. Knowing their size I can't imagine these people don't have contacts and build up relations with people at stores in Tokyo, so I can see how they would get access before release date. But man you have to be a really special kind of stupid to leak unreleased manga images when you run a big online store selling figures and manga! How do such people even run a company to begin with? 😂
i hate the current leak culture, because this specific case with jjk happened to me, several key moments got spoiled to me against my will and without any way to avoid every time I opened twitter. its one thing where some niche comment board online leaks something and that ripples through as rumours, but if the actual chapter leaks a whole week or two ahead of schedule, and that ruins the hype in that series for EVERYONE, even people who wanted to wait, just is bad period. There's definitely a part about piracy and accessibility, and I dont have anything against that, (i may or maynot occasionally raise the jolly roger myself) but i think its just bad business to outpace the actual serialization, especially with incomplete or partial leaks on purpose. by getting ahead of the official sources. I for one welcome the punishment, it doesnt matter their circumstance, its blatantly obvious that their actions were illegal and super douchey anyway. If they get off light i hope they at least learn their lesson and never leak shit again. now if japan could figure out how to destroy the scalping economy and tenbaiya- culture next, I'd be even happier! actually, not just japan, lets as a species eliminate the parasitic behaviors of scalping and price gouging!
In this case, the spoilers are easily avoidable, just don't open twitter lmao. If you get spoiled every time you open it why do you keep going back for more 😂
The leakers really said "Nah I'd leak" and the police said "Stand proud. You are arrested" 💀
You're a poet.
Stand guility. You are arrested.
@@kiri4907 no I'm just cringe
@@Qbone_ might replace with this one.
I'm calling it. Best comment of 2024.
The lengths JJK fans go to spoil everyone is truly something.
Naw it’s not to spoil people we just want info early.
@@terencebarnes7393jjk fandom is so bad for spoiling besides that lol
Not just JJK manga it happens to most of the Manga's like OP's Gear 5...It's just more popular and hyped up leaks are known by most people..
@@Peachy_crow Yea on Twitter/X is probably crazy. I would also say if your a anime only even don’t even go on TH-cam. There a lot of chapter reviews and even animation of certain fights. JJk fans that keep up with manga are just so vocal within the anime community.
Nah I'd spoil.
YOOOO Sandman made it to a Joey video. He's been a GOAT in the One Piece twitter community. Actually a 50 something year old Japanese guy with great English who translates a lot of Japanese stuff, mostly correct translations of OP panels.
HE'S 50!?
@@stereokuuji Yeah and he's been reading shonen jump since the 80s or something. Like he literally remembers reading the chapter when Goku went super Saiyan for the first time....when it released lmao.
@@RuggerJugSo he witnessed a great moment in anime history. Imagine the hype of those manga owners back then, must've been as wild as the anime episode.
@@RuggerJug that's soooo cool
Bro is from the Void Century 😅
That leaker truly was our Jujutsu Kaisen
Leaking is pretty mid, yeah.
@@MyVanir Nah, Its lit
I'm not into leaking stuff
I wonder if this could be taken out of context 🤔
Nah, i'd leak.
He was our specialz
What's sad about the jjk side of it, leaks are glorified in the community (twitter). I had to brace myself every week for incoming spoilers and that it ruined the experience for me, as a manga reader and for anime-onlys. I had to quit the bird app to avoid spoilers but still get recommended screenshots even on youtube 💀
The JJK spoiling is so insane that a term related to Fate, a completely different IP, recently trended on Twitter that contained instant spoilers for the latest JJK chapter. I couldn't avoid getting spoiled even though I was *actively* trying to. Same with Boruto, and I'm sure it happens with a bunch of other series I don't even read. I find it so maddening that people legit would rather get CRUMBS of story as early as possible instead of experiencing them within the story as intended, and on top of that give *zero* fucks about spoiling other people who don't want to be. They say "don't read the spoilers" and legitimately don't acknowledge that they're actively making it so that I absolutely cannot.
I think the spoiling was pretty bad but it was a pretty interesting experience as long as you weren’t the one being spoiled. Only in JJK you can be spoiled while being caught up to the manga. Even the anime has spoilers and edits not even 30 min after the episode released.
One of the "defenses" of spoiling stuff I hate seeing, is when people say to block words, or get off the Internet. Like a) sometimes it's hard to know every spoiler termonology, like some people will block letters or use different terms to avoid the censors etc. and b) did a global pandemic not teach you everything? This isn't 2001 where people aren't online 24/7. People have jobs, or school, or just want to relax and use the Internet. Like man people just suck.
fr its so ass
Not defending people who spoil stuff because yeah. But in terms of people who like being spoiled I don't think it's anything bad. Liking being fed bread crumbs and details on events in the story before actually getting into it is just another way of experiencing the story and just because it may not be the intended way doesn't mean it's a bad way. It's not like they're hurting anyone else that way.
@rixdespo9144 imagine being on season 1 and finding out your favorite character dies. I'd imagine a percentage of people would quit from that.
I’m all for fan translations because they are very important for series that will never get a translation, but leaking a popular manga being translated all over the world is just terrible.
The problem is that the official jjk translations have been know to be misleading and straightup bad
@@lorenzojevaz2644 then they should wait for the Japanese ones to come out and translate those
I agree , There's a clear difference between me and my buds translating a raw chapter because we think the official translation doesn't do enough effort (& because we think it's fun) and me and my buds sneaking into Shueisha's office/store , copying/scanning unreleased chapters and spreading them on the internet just because 3-4 days is too long of a wait for us to have the official release .
@@thomasffrench3639 That's basically what they're doing
@@madmouse4400 They're not sneaking into anywhere 😭✋️, they just got the magazine and scanned it, that's it
It’s one piece irl. Pirates vs the world government
No because in one piece you like the pirates, in this you don’t like the pirates because they ruin the story
No some people like the pirates others dont, One Piece
😂
I am subscribed to the Shonen Jump App and one thing that always bothers me is that leaked chapters are usually online 3-4 days before they show up in the app. soo Social media, including youtube is packed with video reactions, spoilers, etc that mess up the whole experience.
Honestly if Shonen really wanted to battle this they should release Digital first in Japan, and within a couple of hours the rest of the world. Like you said, similar to Crunchyroll and other media.
Just a correction, the chapters on the Shonen Jump App or MangaPLUS are getting released simultaneously , that is midnight japan time, one the same day as the physical release in stores. We aren't receiving the chapters a few days later than japan, as said in the tweet in the video, leaks are photos or scans made by bookstore employees before the official release. It's those who partake in leak culture that are ruining it for all of us.
Back in the golden age I worked for Blockbuster Video and we would get the new movies/games in on Fridays(sometimes thursdays) and we would process them for release day on Tuesday. We essentially had access to the movies/games for the weekend before the general public. We did sign contracts everytime but still we were first. I wasn't privy to the machines to make copies but some of the staff did and they did make copies and "gifted" them out.
I just want to say, a big reason atleast for me and many others for reading the Fan Translations and Scans of Manga, is the sole reason that Shueishas official scans are of much lower quality, and the English translations, ESPECIALLY for JJK, are REALLY bad. Fan translations are so much better. You would think that someone who's getting paid to translate would do a good job, but sometimes the translations are so off, the whole story gets misunderstood, JJK being a phenomenal example of this.
Honestly, I think fan translation at least getting a pass because they're waiting for official release of raw instead of using leak.
Seriously, leak is horrendous to be translated.
@@mitacestalia7532 The raw version you are mentioning IS the one that is getting leaked. Fan translators use that and they publish chapters before their release in Japan and worldwide.
Probably because translators of anime/manga are not really paid that well, so if you are a semi decent translator you go for a government or just a better paying job.
We will still not forget "No." and "I bet I was a creepy kid" LMAO
Honestly, fan translations are fine esp bec there is problem with the official translations. My biggest irk is against those who release it BEFORE the official. Like, we are getting a FREE official translations of these chapters SIMULTANEOUSLY, it's not perfect, but let's at least respect that.
Releasing photographic images of the pages of a work, be it manga or novel, would not even be covered under "fair use" in the United States.
That’s true but you would not go to prison most likely it would be a civil suit. Copyright charges usually do not land you in prison.
@@Wingzero90939 Oh yes you would. Not being able to pay the CR charges is jail time. depending on the offense it can be upwards of years.
So people who post copies of college textbooks that'd otherwise cost you $200 eqch should be arrested too, right?
@@codym5352If it hasn't been released, probably yes. I think it depends on yhe circumstances.
@@Wingzero90939They have been arrested by the police for violating copyright law, so they are facing a criminal suit , not a civil suit.
Japan seems more concerned about leaks which some people think mean fan translation which while very similar wasn't the point of the article. They are concerned that Japanese people will not buy the magazine which actually costs them money. They are well aware that most people who read fan translation end up buying legal copies once it becomes available in their country because hard copies are better to own in fact the hard core even buy Japanese copies
it's kind of understandable tho. I assume in Japan manga is affordable because in other countries the price can be expensive.
Like damn, one manga nowadays is equal one fancy meal in my country.
Not to mention, leak isn't official release. I think gans translation is okay because they're waiting for official raw translation before working it out.
No more JJK and OP leaks on Wednesday
good
Thank god.
I'm so pressed....
Yay
I highly doubt that but we'll see next week 😂
Stores hold onto copies of upcoming manga releases. There is always a specific time from I fine in leaks. Sometimes the raw scan comes out about 5-6 days in advance of release and translations a day or two after.
The Lobotomy Kaisen finally lead to a criminal record.
I was really waiting for you to cover this topic.
I have always hated leaks. I love the idea of theorizing what might happen and the READING it on RELEASE to see how I was right or wrong.
Books being sold early is actually extremely common worldwide. I personally bought the chainsaw man volume 11 English volume a week before its release. Theoretically anyone could read shonen jump early if they hunted around bookstores enough. Only issue here is the fact that the leakers are pirating the books by photographing and uploading them.
Buy the paperback copies sure, but how much money do you think really goes to the authors when you pay the app subscription or buy the shonen jump magazine. I’m willing to bet it’s a fraction of a fraction compared to selling the full books. Yes leaking hurts the authors too but it’s the corporations coming after the leakers for the corporations money, not the authors.
This right here
Man, I miss when spoilers were only on anime forums and blogspot. Also, when people were nice and never spoil stuff for other people. Showing my age right now. Lmao
I used to work at a bookstore and it's a pretty big deal if material gets out before its release. Granted, employees would call dibs on some books to buy first, but we never got into the material before it got to the floor.
"Nah I'd leak"😭😭😭😭
Amazing video Joey,fantastic job.
The thumbnail is really funny without context.
Yeah, I think better accessibility and releasing manga digitally in all countries and languages simultaneously would really help with the leaking issue. Sticking to the print format requires there to be publishers and book shops to stock shelves-creating an opportunity for there to be a man in the middle to leak chapters early.
(Currently, they print copies and send it to be distributed, then all shops and digital versions are released to the public at the same time, so the digital versions are essentially just waiting for the paper copies to be distributed.)
I think Japan is too attached to physical media to ever make that transition, but if they did, it would really help, since having 1 department of translators (Japanese to whatever other language) is easier to keep track of than translators, publishers, shore workers, shipping workers, etc.
Yes. They should just say fuck you to their Japanese customers
the thing is the other WSJ series are just totally fine. No one is leaking the latest chapters of Blue Box or MamaYuyu because, well, theres no demand for it. Only like 4 or 5 WSJ titles out of 20 get consistent leaks now-- one piece, jjk, mha, now even sakamoto days and sometimes kagurabachi. i wouldve honestly agree that this is a service issue if we did not get the chapters for free but we do get it for free. i think the community issue is just bigger than it is a service one. Action/Battle shonen fans are just too impatient nowadays, leakers are glorified and are clout chasing, and scanlators are incentivized to post chapters as fast as possible because they earn money through ad revenue on their site.
Bruh, WSJ already have digital app. I read Chainsawman from there...
I’m so glad I avoid social media like the plague. I’ve never had to deal with spoilers or leaks. My media consuming experience is on point.
Same. Never got into Twitter and I'm glad I never did.
Same. However, I also need to avoid getting spoiled on TH-cam, which is a bit difficult since TH-cam tends to recommend these leak videos on their algorithm. Just try not to watch anything related to that specific show or video game. That helps lower the risks of spoilers. Also, try clearing and disabling your watch history as well.
I understand this situation, about the leaks and why is wrong. Also, I try and buy physical manga volumes every time that I can (which is a pain considering the LATAM country where I am) That being said, when I have to chose between paying my bills or 800+ streaming services to "properly" watch anime,and a very limited quantity because of geo restrictions, (so I would have to pay a VPN too!) nah-ah, sorry not sorry ,☠️
and shit be hella expensive, how am i gonna get a manga if it costs about 10% of my monthly wage?? the worst part is that they always translate it like shit to spanish or have some annoying argentinian accent
BTW, about manga, most mangas are on the official or licensed platforms. For example, shonen jump has its own platform called Shonen Jump+. So it'd be more convenient to pay subscription fee to these platforms and read many mangas on these platforms
(why my comments continue disappearing?) anyway, simply put, if you got VPN, use VPN to watch anime on TH-cam from Muse Asia or Ani-One Asia, and subscribe to an official or licensed manga website to read as many manga as you want
I dunno why you needed to say this. It sounds like you are trying to justify leaks
@@shaun6997 leaks benefit the consumer. Nobody needs moral justification. Nobody cares really. Free is free. Free info is free info.
As someone who enjoys leaks of Yugioh cards coming in Master Duel, no, I do not find it more interesting to wait. I would rather know if I should be saving my free currency in game or not weeks ahead of time.
I think a lot of the times the stores selling the books early doesn't do it out of malice, but out of lack of knowledge of the release date. At least that's the impression I've had when similar situations happen with games. Don't really buy physical copies of games that much these days, but when I was younger I often went around to stores before the game was released and it wasn't impossible to get your hand on the game before it was released.
Even if they hadn't put the game on display, if it was a larger department store, just grabbing an employee and asking them about the game, they'd often notice that they had the game in storage and if you were lucky, the employee you grabbed didn't know about the release date so they'd go and get you a copy of the game.
These days, even if I did buy a physical copy of a game rather than just stick to digital, I wouldn't really dare play it early with all the online registrations going on, so not really worth running around trying to get the games before they're released anymore😀
i fully stand behind the notion that piracy(not leaking) is a failure of supply/distribution rather than "crime is rampant".
most people would just naturally go for the cheapest and most convenient option out there. if a piracy site give me a chapter for free and 3 days before the official release that cost money, well guess which one people are going to check and then obviously not bother to also check the other a few days later. so the official is being beaten on both fronts, not just one. so what chance does it have to be the natural go-to for fans?
Bro, Shonen Jump is cheaper in the west than it is in Japan. In this case this isn’t a supply issue. It’s that people are impatient. Although for JJK specifically, I know that the fan translations are better than the official one.
So you are saying these sites should just offer everything for free, because you can get it for free from the pirated sites. Sounds legit. That's not a failure of supply/distribution, that's just feeling like you shouldn't ever have to pay for anything.
@@thomasffrench3639 Impatient? if scans can get it to you 3 days earlier, why the official can't? they can, they just won't and so people will just read it on pirate sites.
@@moominsean i talked about the time it delivers the chapter and somehow you adressed the payment issue... weird.. as if you ignore the main thing i adressed and attacked me on the side thing that fitted your narative more...
i asure you most people would pay the small fee of Jump+ or whatever the online service is and only read One Piece there, if it delivevered the new chapter earlier than anywhere else in high quality and good translation in a site that is easy and convenient to use. people will pay money for quality and convenience, but if the money option is less quality, less quick and less convenient than a free quicker and higher quality product on a piracy site, what advantage does paying the official site has? other than feeling bad for pirating it, but for most people that's not enough.
@@MrGalRoz You literally say if a pirate site gives you something for free and early, why would someone bother paying for it a few days later because they already saw it for free. So sure if money isn't the issue (though you say it is), people should expect official sites to beat out the piracy sites in distribution date if they want money for it. Here's an idea, don't be so impatient that you can't wait a couple days for the official release, and don't even check the pirate sites.
05:30 I'd imagine getting copies of books, magazines, etc. before release date is pretty normal practice for stores to be ready for release date, just like how tech reviewers get tech products before release date so they can prepare their reviews that will be, in turn, also released before the release date of the products.
i dont like the concept of leaks but i did enjoy reading the new jjk chapters with a ton of people simultaneously and having the suspense between the pages since they always took a couple of minutes to be translated
Keep up the awesome work and videos Joey love the video
I bet Tokyo looks insane in the snow
it's difficult to not pirate when your country doesn't have most manga/anime streaming platforms and if they do, they only have a fraction of the material on there (looking at you Crunchyroll)
it's also difficult not to release it before official release schedule, let be honest here the only reason they release early before official is for $$. There are many fan translation that release after official schedule and i don't see any problem with them.
@@acht467 i support both official and scanlation but not leaker, what leaker do is release early so that they get the number. It has nothing to do with the both u listed.
oh absolutely I should've mentioned that I was not justifying leaking. I initially planned to respond to a comment regarding pirating but idk why it's now under the video reply @@fuwaclouds6339
100% on accessibility being the reason for piracy. I’ve actually seen a lot of fan translations stop once a series becomes officially available in English/globally. And I’ve also switched when they become officially translated. Just sucks that smaller works rarely ever get licensed :/
Nature of the beast, sadly. Can't translate everything, it's not easy but ideally we'd all be bilingual
I gave up around chapter 220, on trying not to get spoiled by others and started following the leaks instead. I kind of like getting three different versions (leaks, translated, official). I feel like i get a better perspective on the story.
So let me dumb down the process of how they got manga magazines since Japan is known for their physical copy in manga pretty much all stores purchased and stored before they were released then the seller can sell the manga for a up charge if the consumer demands a early access for the product just like gaming.
Example- let say a manga worth $10 dollars on released but if you want to buy said manga early access the store can use this method by charging the manga let say $40 dollars before it released to the public in which the stores make more profit using said demands basically insider trading.
I'm getting a headache reading this. Is a "Full-Stop" the only punctuation you're aware of?
so, insider trading including insider trading manga is heavily punished in Japan?
this is almost all true except the markup price. its substantially higher than that its essentially a bribe. there are only a handful of copies which are being "sold" to leakers, otherwise they will get caught pretty easily, so they dont really profit off of markup prices. instead they are just given essentially a bribe. the scanlation groups will pay the raws provider, then the raws provider will pay someone that works at the store.
I think the appeal of leaks is that it sucks letting companies drip feed us content at their own pace. The leak contains info they didn't want us to see, and therefore it feels more genuine. It's like how that big Nintendo leak showed the world that they had assets for Luigi meant for Mario 64, finally putting an end to a long running myth. Not everyone enjoys being teased.
those leaks are the very same chapters you get a few days later. at the same "drip feed" pace
@@SebHighDef I'm talking about leaks in general.
i think its normal over here manga and comics is availble in stores usually 2weeks before the actual release date in U.S. even smaller websites like rightstuf before they got bought out, would ship out manga 2weeks before the release date on their website. stores like amazon wait til the actual release date though
I'm a comic artist in the US. I think the increase in accessibility of media in general is a double edged sword. On the one hand, I love that more people around the world are able to access movies, comics, music, what have you from another country that they never would have been able to 15 years ago. On the other, I think it's created a sort of sense of entitlement. Like when you can easily binge an entire season of a show in one weekend, you're immediately left there going "Okay, well now I want more, and I want it immediately." Without taking into account the hours of labor making that thing took. So people go searching for more, and sometimes it leads them to pressuring creators into releasing things faster or looking for leaks. Media already seems to be coming out at the speed of light, often in an unsustainable way (looking at the anime industry), but for a lot of folks it's just never going to be enough. Which sucks.
I always imagine Joey taking a huge bong rip before he starts recording lol
I remember I went over 15 years not having anything One Piece related spoiled for me, then Gear 5 happened and within hours there were fanarts on twitter with no captions so they didn’t get muted. Leaks shouldn’t exist and the immediacy of spoiling shit that just came out is also a cancer on the Animanga community.
I literally deleted twitter after 248 chapter of jjk came out, cause I want to read at least 5 chaps in one go, so I have to wait BUT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE not to get a spoiler in twitter these days...
Usually shops will get shipments of new releases one or few days before the release, otherwise they couldn't stock it on the release day.
I guess it was mistakenly filled onto the shelves or maybe they just peeked at the stock that's not filled yet and took a picture, it's actually impressive how it doesn't happen that much more often
Doesn’t happen more is probably because they don’t usually have foreigners working in Japanese book stores
@@SStrikeFury I mean more so globally
booksellers get product early with a release date for when to put them on shelves. that way the shelves can be full on that day.
I think what irks me the most is that the official English translations are actually released simultaneously for FREE!!! If you're a week-to-week reader, who are the people who get affected by these leaks the most, you can read it for FREE!!!
I was working for a big book distributor back when the harry potter books were coming out. I can confirm we got hundreds of pallets of the books even a month before the release date. I think it was the 3rd or 4th book where there was a big kerfuffle about people leaking the books early. So at that time they literally had 24hr armed security guards in the warehouse just to watch these pallets of books. Shit was wild.
Not to send such a late comment but I heard jump is created the weekend before on the Friday they sent out to be public to be released on Monday, but it also is made earlier and it’s given to special people that they trust. It was one of those special people that they trust that gave it to these people which is why they were able to get so early.
Wth it’s snowing in tokyo now and just when i got back from japan 😢
Btw i thought the leak was from them buying the magazine and sharing it online which is why i was soo confused when the leakers showed the latest jjk chapter but the latest jump magazine jjk was on break
I’m so glad this is being talked about and honestly I hope leaks stop being as prevalent as they are. I hate leaks and I hate the mindset that’s formed around twitter and especially TikTok. I’ve seen more people upset they won’t have daily leaks than people who are against leaks and it’s just so upsetting. I do agree with the fact that like yes not everyone can afford all these streaming services especially young people and that for English speakers we get chapters quite a few days later so we still have a chance to be spoiled. I know how it was back when anime was not as mainstream as it is today and it was nearly impossible to find shows officially in English. However I view anime and manga as art because it quite literally is art and I want to support my favorite artists so that way they can continue to create these shows and manga that I enjoy so much. I also think by avoiding for paying for these services the correct way, it feeds into the starving artist and negative connotations in the artistic world. We already are having issues where people don’t want to hire artists or pay them what they deserve and have resorted to AI stealing art. It’s so disheartening to see. Artists deserve to have their works recognized and be compensated fairly for them as well. Please don’t support leaks and think of the people who don’t want to be bombarded with leaks and spoilers every time they open twitter. I’ve had so much of jjk ruined for me because of the leaks. I know a lot of people don’t agree and don’t see the problem with leaks and I agree there are still things that these companies could do to make their series more accessible to overseas audiences but leaking shit on twitter is not the way to go about it.
I don0t really mind leaks, but I'm only a "solo reader" I don't go to foums to find out things so leaks don't really affect me either. I do understand how it can affect some fans and the creators. In my opinion it's ok if you work on a bookshop and you read the chapter before it's oficially out, the only problem is if you take pictures and put it online.
the only reason why i caught up to JJK is because i was pissed off that something insane was spoiled to me (not the gojo situation)
I love how fast the Japanese government can mobilize to protect the corporate IP owners faster than they can protect the workers making it under sweatshop conditions.
The leaks are still continuing but now they are on thursdays
Do not Wednesdays
Now this explains how fans translated One Piece chapter can come on Thursday, when the official online version came out on Sunday alongside the magazine official release.
I would love to subscribe to Viz or Shueisha's Mangaplus, but somehow the access is restricted in Japan region... T___T
Looking fantastic joey ❤❤❤
The key here is that they couldn't have acess to the magazine without some inside help. Be it in Sueisha print or the stores.
But for some reason, when notices like that appears, they never tell if the police will investigate the inside help. It never ends.
Reading leaks is fine for me. I still will go straight to the official stuff right as soon as it's available because it's usually a lot cleaner in many cases. Then it's also interesting to see the cultural variances from the unofficial and the official sides. I think I'm just immune to spoiler fatigue and I like to know what I'm buying before I spend my money.
When your first language isn't English, piracy is the main way to consume the most majority of manga and anime, especially the non mainstream ones. At least, the scanlation waits until the release day or a few days later to publish the translation.
unfortunately thats not the case really for the top mangas anymore
i am with joey on the part that i dont really care about spoilers since it doesnt affect most of the things i read anyways but its just so annoying
ever since people figured out they can earn cash from scanlations through ad revenues on their sites speed scanning have always been a thing. they are incentivized to get early raws of chapters and scanlate it as fast as possible so that they can get more clicks.
it is both a community problem and a service problem in my eyes, because people just want to get things early, even though they can already get it (FOR FREE btw) if they just waited just a couple more days. I can symphatize a bit with JJK because their official translations are subpar (they dont read and flow as neatly for some reason) but One Piece fans? Stephen Paul has done an amazing job on it and has been a pillar of the One Piece community waaaaaaay back before he became an official translator, yet they still want it much earlier, so its definitely not just a service problem.
its just a mess honestly, fandoms that cant shut the fuck up about anything, leakers actually being douchebags and chasing internet clout, manga publishers being ehhh about the products they present overseas etc.
Tbh i'm not patient enough to wait a few years until the manga gets finally officially translated in the language i speak. It's nlt about reading the manga before other people, they're just too slow with the translations if it even gets the one you would buy it in the end :)
The only manga I read weekly is One Piece and sometimes it's ho hard to not get spoiled, especially in the point where the story is right now. I often just don't go on Reddit, Twitter or Instagram just to not get spoiled. I read JJK like twice a month and don't get spoiled often, but that one was everywhere.
Its crazy how many people don't seem to know that Shueisha already has an online service that provide the latest chapters for free with no subscription.
There are some who still prefer to use scan websites to read even after aggressively recommending the mangaplus app and website
@djmidori ofc there are and do you know why? It's because the fan translations are mostly better than the OFFICAL translations like with jjk
@@miljan1399 Is the official TL for JJK that bad? I don't read JJK so I don't know.
@miljan1399 uhh no? Scanlation usually translate in literal sense but official translation have context took into consideration..
@@miljan1399 it's not. I can read a little bit of japanese and kanji and most of the the the fans scans lose contexts of the actual meaning of what the author is saying.
Hence we have confused readers from time to time who rely on fan scans
I remember a little while back there were some My Hero Academia leaks surrounding Bakugo everywhere on Twitter/Instagram. I remember being completely shocked by the leak and confused. Knowing what would happen to him kind of ruined my interest in the Manga/Anime for a while because he's one my favorite characters, and love his character growth.
He's alive! And a musician to boot!
- Ernesto dela Cruz
Joey..... all products are available at least a week before release... you know so they have the physical product on the stores first hour on release day
It snow and thundered yesterday which was a total wtf thing for me
well no more excitement on my Wednesday. I knew it is bad but man. Waiting on discord yapping with people is really something every wednesday XD
Will hardly stop it imo
Joey really should have done his research on this because their not leaking non released chapters their leaking the chapters that have not been translated to English i.e. they are simply scanning the shonen jump copies when they drop
If smth is called leaking, it means it got filtrated before their official release by days even in the country of origin. In 8:12 is explained how this happens. It’s not a timezone case where the chapter gets release first in Japan and people share about it before the official English release. It’s straight up people publicly posting unreleased stuff for the sake of self hype or smth (idk how to explain this, English isn’t my first language. sorry!)
Sandman is literally one of the most reliable sources on Twitter especially with translations
Except that they are released in English the same day as Japan.
@@thomasffrench3639 on what fucking planet is that remotely even true
@@hinenokubi sorry I know English isn’t your first language ur pretty good but like no shonen jump allegedly releases on a Monday and we usually get the “leaked” chapters by around Wednesday morning gmt or Tuesday depending on time zone. It isn’t to generate “hype” or anything it’s simply a normal thing of people being impatient and wanting to know what happens as the official English make you wait until SUNDAY for a shit translation (if it’s John werry)
For this copyrights thing I do agree with Japan going hard on people for it because I find I am watching videos of '' Let's say Your chanel '' and ill scroll down to hit like and see it was posted on '' ACB" channel and they are selling Merch, I have reported so many for doing this but nothing seems to be done to stop it, I just watched a video that was taken from the original posters channel 20 min after it was aired, I have to wonder how much income are the original uploaders losing when 10 other channels are allowed to take their work and claim fair use,
The issue with only reading official releases is that most times they're not even translated in English. A lot of shojosei works gain their popularity from fan translation and THEN get an official English release.
Don't they print out stuff ahead of the release? That would explain the leaks, it takes one copy
Joey the leaks during gojo vs sukuna fights were so cool guess we gonna get it a day after
For me I think there's a big difference when it comes to leaking something that hasn't even come out yet and people grabbing pages and scanlating. I follow a lot of mangas (mostly from weekly Shonen champion) that simply do not even have any official ways to read them in English and it can make it really annoying and so people ripping the pages and translating them is the only way for people overseas to be able to consume that media and it sucks. Tho I'm sure if there was a leaker for that magazine, the same thing would happen and I would be pretty annoyed as well so overall I get it. Leaking sucks.
Leaks affected my reading experience A LOT. No matter if you blocked certain tags, a big vast of people doesn't tag for shit so you get it thrown in your face. Boom, excitement dropped, the shock I'd have felt otherwise gone. BNHA used to be awful with that, but the JJK fandom got worse with the leaks. I absolutely hate that I'd have to disappear for 2/3 days from social media altogether if I wanted to avoid everything. That or block/mute everyone until I reach peace, which I do if I see leaks. I'm actually glad there are now consequences
6:58 I think this is the first time I saw a TH-camr say "harrumph" on a video, I only ever saw this word in books, it's kind of surreal hahaha
Thank you someone finally say something about this leaking I always hate it so it's nice to someone oppose it cause mostly people just using it
5:30 So this phenomenon happens in the video game industry all the time, if you remember how bad things went down with No Man's Sky for example, someone stole copies from shipments to physical stores and sold them online several weeks ahead of launch date, some guy bought a copy for 100£ and put a playthrough up on youtube. It was a complete shitshow.
When it concerns streaming. I prefer the sites that are free with ads and you can pay money to take the ads off. Essentially its like giving out free samples and if you want the better package you can buy it. If they started more services with Anime in mind pirating would probably drop down.
As for the manga scans. Sadly unless people start paying the legal price it will never end.
hey joey would it be possible to link the article you're reading in the description please, and for future videos too? thanks!
On one hand, getting your interests given to you on social media like this is great because you get to see what other people are saying about it, or you can see cool artwork, etc. But the other coin of that sucks because you just get straight up spoilers, ESPECIALLY if the episode just came out. I truly do not understand people's fascination with blurting out spoilers for things (specifically the leakers, I get if it like came out an hour ago and you want to talk to people about it), it just really ruins a lot of interest in the fandom for me personally.
Well I do read them on the high seas, but everyone seems like already cracking down on this lol, Tachiyomi already got killed, although some one will probably make another fork of the same stuff lol.
Wonder if this means we might see more crackdowns in the near future. RIP Animedao.
What abt Mya who posted Jujutsu Kaisen leaks...in his other twitter account it was mentioned his location is India. So how will Japanese police get to him other than banning his account
Thats just wrong., no one should arrested for leaking manga, cases, maybe but that should just be finable at best , not an arrestable offense, thats redicilous
Recommend manhwa and manhua, cheaper and more accessible online! Back in the day, after school, some of my friends just went to the nearby bookstore to buy an official local comics magazine with very cheap price using their allowance. And then share with other friends.
I don’t know why manga sometimes is almost as expensive as American textbooks. If the price goes down and Japanese companies stepped out from Galápagos syndrome and related mindset and have more international views and understandings and more international support like a lot of Chinese companies did (for example, hoyoverse and HyperGryph, who made one of Joey’s favorite game called Arknights). There’re gonna be way less people complaining
The lands of the hills and the grotto
Leaks will ALWAYS be bad because there is always a group of persons who will get out of the way to spoil it without consent.
One Piece has a huge spoiler scene and i think it has the best example of how leaks can be great. Every week i read them and they are always controlled in a certain way (sometimes there is chapter pages leaks but that may be from other sources).
It comes in 2 waves and always in text, first wave tells the major events of the chapter, the second wave goes on detail on whats really happening. But what i think is really cool, is that the leakers don't spoil to much, they refuse to spoiler some major appearances and surprises until the second wave. Top of the cake is how One Piece reddit tries to control spoilers outside of the main spoiler thread, i never found a chapter spoiler outside of the thread (i dont scroll much but yea and i don't go to twitter).
Spoilers are subjetive but i do love one piece spoilers. In my mind it looks like i have 3 chapters per week cause of the 1st and 2nd wave and then the release.
It's most likely about money. Leakers are probably getting paid and they people they give the leaks to are probably anime content creators trying to be first to break any news so that they get all the traffic and get more money.
I highly doubt anyone's doing it solely for Internet points and bragging rights
Who cares. If I get to read a manga early then I like to read it early. Leeks don't bother me. One piece is leaked every week for YEARS
All media gets shipped to shops a few days before release, joey did you think items just arrive on the day?
leaks are awesome i get to know what happens early. why wait for Sunday when i can read it Thursday
They'll never stop leakers 'cause there's a certain crowd that craves them. The Kingdom subreddit for example is obsessed with early leaks.
I don't really mind the leaks cuz john werry manages to fuck up every single chapter man. Like his translations are so off and dialogues start meshing into borderline booger talk. This is why there are leakers for jjk. The other series are understandable because its usually just ppl needing to know the chap content faster. But when it comes to jjk its an exception cuz john werry makes us lose braincells. " Authentic mutual love " ahh 😭
I like how Joey looks like one of the old german dudes living in Berlin or Hamburg with the sweater and the hat in this video. :D
Honestly, the problem with leak is "too early access" where official is not even out yet. You basically won't have problem if the official is out.
Even illegal manhwa reader like me and many scanlators out there at least wait until the official release.
Wait these people run quite a large online store selling Japanese products (at least I think so because that company has the same name). They sell anime figures, manga and clothes from Japan to people in the West. Knowing their size I can't imagine these people don't have contacts and build up relations with people at stores in Tokyo, so I can see how they would get access before release date.
But man you have to be a really special kind of stupid to leak unreleased manga images when you run a big online store selling figures and manga! How do such people even run a company to begin with? 😂
i hate the current leak culture, because this specific case with jjk happened to me, several key moments got spoiled to me against my will and without any way to avoid every time I opened twitter. its one thing where some niche comment board online leaks something and that ripples through as rumours, but if the actual chapter leaks a whole week or two ahead of schedule, and that ruins the hype in that series for EVERYONE, even people who wanted to wait, just is bad period. There's definitely a part about piracy and accessibility, and I dont have anything against that, (i may or maynot occasionally raise the jolly roger myself) but i think its just bad business to outpace the actual serialization, especially with incomplete or partial leaks on purpose. by getting ahead of the official sources.
I for one welcome the punishment, it doesnt matter their circumstance, its blatantly obvious that their actions were illegal and super douchey anyway. If they get off light i hope they at least learn their lesson and never leak shit again.
now if japan could figure out how to destroy the scalping economy and tenbaiya- culture next, I'd be even happier! actually, not just japan, lets as a species eliminate the parasitic behaviors of scalping and price gouging!
In this case, the spoilers are easily avoidable, just don't open twitter lmao. If you get spoiled every time you open it why do you keep going back for more 😂