Nikon D850 vs Sony a7R III: Mirrorless vs DSLR ULTIMATE FIGHT!
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- We've been using the two highest image quality digital cameras for about 8 months in the real world, so this is a long-term review comparison:
* Nikon D850 (sdp.io/d850) - a 45 megapixel DSLR
* Sony a7R III (sdp.io/a7r3) - a 42 megapixel mirrorless camera
In this video review, we compare them for Image Quality and Color, Autofocus (AF), frames per second (FPS), durability/reliability/dependability, the viewfinder (optical vs electronic viewfinder/EVF), battery life, handling and usability, Wi-Fi, silent shutter, video recording, timelapses, lenses, and price.
“Oh wow, I guess I don’t matter” Someone is sleeping on the couch tonight.
hahahahhah
I'm sticking with Nikon, not because of any brand snobbery. I think all brands are putting out great cameras these days. I just have so much invested in Nikon glass. And I'm confident in the durability of the D850.
R John Mitchell I'm the same way with Canon. Our DSLR take great pics. I'm gonna wait a bit to see what they offer in mirrorless. If in two years Canon hasn't stepped up I might sell my gear and switch.
all brands are not putting out great cameras
ThinkLearnSolve what does that even mean ????
Honestly no reason to change because of new bodies. I went with Sony for affordability and I'm getting back into photography after accidently destroying my last dslr. Won't talk about that hahaha. But Nikon will release a competitive mirrorless and the fight will continue.
The trouble with the glass investment argument is the upcoming mount change and the announcement of new lenses. I’ve started selling my Nikon lenses and bodies. I first started with the financial crisis and I just don’t see a mount change helping anything. In fact, if Nikon needs money then they need you to buy new versions of the lenses you already own. The best way to do that is to make the old version obsolete.
Awesome comparison about 2 of my favorite cameras and i recently transcended to Sony! On another note:
As a born and raised puertorrican, i am eternally grateful that you two visited and help get the message about Puerto Rico conditions. Muchisimas Gracias
Well done. Good work you two!
Guys, that shot of the eagle holding the whitefish was downright fricken beautiful! Solid work!
Thanks!
Jose Dias But does it meet Moose’s standards?
Agree! That was an awesome shot!
But the fish just looks so worried. Maybe if you waited until the fish was smiling.
Yes! I actually gasped when it came up.
You know the quality of this video is fantastic when you watch it in 360p and it still looks better than most other videos on TH-cam.
Silent Stag. Its the CANON 6DII with 24 mm 1.4
@@geko9425 how do you know?
@@jinxterpinxter They mention this in the comments of one of their videos with the exact look...And they are saying it at 10:26 that they are using a canon to film
Chelsea or Tony, could you confirm again, please?
@@jinxterpinxter Tony did also a video that the canon 6DII is the best vlogging camera just a few weeks before this video. Check it out. Here: th-cam.com/video/Cb1MKvmIujQ/w-d-xo.html
Loved the outtakes at the end. You guys are awesome! Thank you for these videos.
The first thing I noticed was how good the video looked.
Nice one hahaha
Shot on Canon 😅 best skintones...
Right?
Anyone knows what specific camera they used to shoot this video ? The picture is very crystal clear !
B O K E H ..
T: "I travel with the Sony and one battery, charge it overnight and I'm fine."
C: "I travel with the Nikon and one battery and ...forget to charge it... and I'm fine."
T: "I'm giving the 'Battery Life' category to Sony"
C: "Wha...?"
T: "I just wish that Nikon had USB charging."
I mean I've got no dog in the fight, but the D850 makes at least 3x more images on one charge than the Sony. That's gotta count for something. :)
Yeah and honestly, always having a battery charger in your bag isn't that difficult.
Nikon clearly wins in the situation where you have no way to possible charge the device. However, Sony is better if you forget the charger because most people already have a USB cord in their car so the Sony can take infinitely more pictures than the Nikon in that situation. So if you are stranded with no access to your car or a battery bank, Nikon wins. In any other case, Sony is the clear winner. Weddings is a toss up. While having a longer lasting single battery would be beneficial, the fact you can charge the camera battery from a USB power bank, does give you the option of charging the camera while the wedding is happening, especially if you have a second camera, so in the unfortunate event the battery does die and you didn't have a replacement, you can probably rescue yourself (worse case you have to find someone with a charger), however once the Nikon battery dies, you are out of luck unless you have the specific charger, and then you can't charge for a moment, take your needed shot and continue to charge, you are basically going to be out of commission until the battery gets charged enough to allow you to move about, and not quickly die.
Nikon wins big time on this one but Tony just wasn't listening ... fan boy mode I guess... It happens.
Indeed
I agree with Tony, all cameras should be coming out with USB chargers. When travelling I need a USB charger for charging my phone and heaps of other stuff (headphones, flashlight, action cam, drone remote, powerbanks, etc). I have 6 powerbanks, it would be so great if my D-SLR could be charged from them. This will be a feature I will consider when buying my next new camera!
Still not sure if Chelsea actually agreed on most of the choices. :)
LOL I laughed at that too. Why does Tony get final say on the "x-marks" :)
Because he is a Sony Stooge,,,,, this vid is soooo bias
Because he holds the pen...
Tony wears the pants
I think Chelsea felt like a mother hen protecting her baby - I can totally relate lol
Hi Tony, Chelsea - you both mentioned what you'd prefer for Wildlife, Night, Portraits, but what's your preference on Street Photography and Landscape?
Terrific review. They are both fantastic cameras. It is great to hear from someone who has real world experience with the equipment.
Sony owner here, but I feel the A7RIII and D850 are closer than the comparison made it out to be because the D850 won in categories that generally people put more weight in: lenses and handling/ergonomics. Those categories, along with image quality which the two cameras tied for, are probably the three most important factors people look for in a new camera. Also, if you're strictly talking about battery life and not charging features (features should be it's own category in my opinion), the D850 should have won that category although battery life isn't an issue on either camera. Both are great cameras and I went with the Sony personally, but it's not a slam dunk win for the A7RIII just because it got more check marks in this comparison.
Billy Kwong being able to charge my Sony with my phone charger is a big plus. Don't have to remember to bring more stuff.
moo I don't agree about the most important lens for me - the 70-200. Otherwise, agree.
So the Nikon 70-200 FL is like $2800. That's pretty rich
The B/W picture from under the bridge,i like that a lot :)
you guys are so natural. You're relax and have a friendly approach to communicate with the audience. Love you guys
Honest and practical review. Thanks guys!
Aaaw, look at that soft background. These two are so in love...with their cameras.
You forgot which camera is best for low light and high ISO!
Sony hands down
@@ShadyJay77true that
Great work, amazing long term review.
I think you guys are the best and always informative :)
Great video. Audio was kind of noisy though. What mic did you use?
Video clearly sponsored by Canon. LOL
LMAO
After that review I would definitely chose the 5D mark iv
hahaha
Filmed with Canon, yes 😁
Haha agreed
This is the most helpful thing I've looked at this year!!!
You two are the best! I personally love the Sony! I own a couple of your books, and will buy more, as I progress as a photographer. Keep these wonderful videos coming! I have already learned so much from you both!
I recognized all of those locations that you guys showed from the Hudson Valley.
Yess, my two favorite cameras complete!! I prefer the D850 slightly tho👌
Why so?
Félix Deconinck lens selection and handeling :)
Nice! Thanks!
I think overall the sony is definitely the winner.
@@HS-fk6hb 100% that Lens selection is amazing, and that nice solid/thick feel in your hands. I love the new Sony's Techwise... But I just hate how they feel in my hands. Its like the Miata, I love it as a car... But Im do big to own one. hahaha~
I'm already a Sony A7R III shooter but just found your video. Very nice review and loved the video quality you two achieved. Real pleasure to watch and easily liked & thumbs-up'able. Just subscribed!
I chose a7r3 for work because I'm a hybrid shooter. Great experience with it so far, and your "user manual" video put me on the right track form the beginning. Thank you for that. However, I'm still debating on switching to back button focus. Regardless, I keep learning something new form you guys all the time.
I love mirrorless, but hate the price of Sony lenses. And, I've never had good luck with adapting lenses. Once Nikon and Canon announce their new full frame mirrorless cameras, I will be making a decision about which one I'm switching to.
agree. hope nikon's entry will motivate sigma to make a native mirrorless art series
That's why I will probably be going with Canon. If the Canon adapter works as well as their current adapter and the M50 with Canon lenses, I will be going that route. I can get a Canon 70-200 f4 for $600, and I don't need stabilization since i'm shooting from a tripod all of the time.
I am very happy with my adapted Canon L lenses and MC-11 (with updated firmware). Try not to watch old videos to decide. I also have three native lenses.
There's also a bigger used lens market for nikon and canon for people on a budget.
Unless you're ok with Nikon's "native" adapters, you'll be stuck buying all new glass... I made the switch all in... traded all my Nikon gear, bought new Sony glass with the trade in dollars... Don't get me wrong... I've been a 30-year Nikon user.... but at the end of the day.. I love my new Sony... Maybe Nikon will win me back - which is win win!
Two lovely cameras. I think it's easier just to call them the best mirrorless and the best DSLR. ;)
I have the A7RIII, but would love to have a D850 as a secondary cam.
I really enjoyed the review. I think I want both!
I have a similar family make up to you guys. My wife and I have a daughter who plays sport and the iphone was not cutting it. I knew nothing about photography and for that reason I purchased a camera system that gave me the path of least resistance. Started with the Sony a6000. Having your videos (and an electronic viewfinder) made learning easy and fun. I now use a full frame a73 have several lenses, more camera bags that should be allowed and love photography. Documenting our family, our holidays our daughters sporting progress is priceless. Sony for me, they made the journey easy and scaleable as my skill level progressed. Thank you Northrups for your channel. Much love and respect from a dad in Australia.
"We're using a Canon to film this."
Level up! Your "Unbiased" skill has increased by +1.
I’ve never tried the R iii yet，but I’m very happy with my D850
Mirrorless can't compare with DSLR yet!You have the better camera!Lenses are doing the magic and Nikon has the best vintage lenses out there!Machine without a proper tool i useless!
Thanks for the review! You said you shot video all day in Puerto Rico with the Nikon and it was fine, but the Live View video autofocus "goes to crap" that's been my issue with the Nikon too. How was the Nikon fine shooting video all day if the autofocus goes to crap? Were you pulling your focus or something?
hey guys love your channel! what's going on with your camera today is it new or use a different process to color grade? the color is a lot more vibrant than usual! not in a bad way either!
I love you Chelsea. "Affordable lenses" 🤭
Hi, I hope you'll answer me because I'm really interested: why you're going to use the nikon for wildlife over the sony?
Good question
I guess we are lucky to have such great equipment from different companies and competition that forces each to get better. It might take Nikon a few revs to get a great mirrorless camera but very exciting to see they are really working hard at it. With both we can take great pictures and focus on the photography and less on equipment. Thanks for this video, love your channel.
Great video 👌. You guys are pretty good Photographers, keep it up.
One thing to consider is that Nikon has a much better range of cheaper, entry-level cameras. While the d850 and the a7R are both very similar cameras, they're both out of the price range of the 'first' camera for a lot of people. Even if the a7R has a slight edge in some respects, it's probably not enough to make a lot of people who have been shooting with Nikon for years to jump ship and get a whole new kit.
In other words these are both pro level cameras with pro prices, but the Sony has the added cost of having to start a whole new lens collection, while the Nikon can slide right into your existing kit that you've slowly built up over time.
What did you shoot this video with. Love the image. Best. Love where you’re sitting. Btw, I prefer the Sony.
Enzo Maisano... Canon 6DmkII
Thanks for many good videos! Could you say something about which camera you think is better for landscape? It'd be great to have a landscape-dedicated video comparing more cameras including the more affordable ones such as the Z6:)
I recently bought an entry level APS-C camera and I'm loving photography so much that I'm already thinking about upgrading. I think these one of these two will likely be what I upgrade to but it's probably still at least 6 months away. However this video was fantastic for a look into both of these cameras so thank you so much for the information!
"It depends" :P
Can't be more unbiased and professional than this. Thanks a lot.
Mehrdad S. Roghani Sorry, this is a very unserious comparison with partially ridiculous 'arguments'.
By the way there no ubiquitous best camera!
This is as funny as it gets. Two people arguing that they're both biased towards both manufacturers. Jeez make up your mind.
That's the point dude, without that it would be boring, so I would say it's their art to make the video more exciting. Would be much easier that only either of them would stair directly to the camera and show a printed paper with all the pors and cons marked and finish. Would be about 30 seconds and then you may like it right?
I tried them both, if it was me there would be very little left for Nikon. If the EVF was not having more advantages be sure Nikon would never go for the ML. But they are loosing their customers on a daily basis.
Mehrdad S. Roghani right! There's no such thing as an entirely objective review
great comparison. I have the Nikon D850 (my baby) and I recently picked up the Sony a7III. I use the Nikon for mostly Wildlife and the Sony as my walk around camera. What adapter are you using for Nikon lens to the Sony body. I only have 2 Sony lenses. (Tamron 28-200 and the Sigma 105 2.8 Macro). I have way more Nikon lens and would love to try them on my Sony. Thanks!
Hey Tony, what focus mode do you use with eye af on the Sony? I find the accuracy drastically better in AF-C mode. Usually I get a hit rate around 85%
I think I just need to put myself in the financial position to own both and use the right tool for the job. 😂
Best comment 🤣🤣🤣
One big advantage of having a dslr is whenever I go on hiking I don't take binocular because I put 70-300mm lens on my dx camera and use it as a monocular without turning on my dslr.
Actually a really fair point lol
Tobias Yoder Evf vs ovf is matter of preference but I dont thing calling evf better is fair judgement. Morten hilmer ( a professional wildlife photographer) dont like evf and he always uses dslr and I rarely under or over expose my photograph using my dslr.
Most of the time wildlife photographers waits hours and hours for a single shot looking through OVF of dslr without any concern but it is impossible to do same looking through Evf because
1.looking on evf may cause eye strain.
2. Battery may die before the real moment.
3. Even if battery keeps up with the time it is highly possible that heat produced by sensor and electronic may force camera to shut down.
4. Hot sensor always produces more noise.
5. Direct beam of strong laser and long exposure to very bright sunlight can also damage sensor.
All above points are 100% fact not my opinion.
If you do that with the a7R III, you can digitally zoom the EVF for even more range. And the battery will literally go all day; it's not an issue.
Tony & Chelsea If I have to do digitally I can even do that on my dslr too but my point is that I can do the same without even using battery at all and no camera can give me all day battery life using evf and dont try to cover me with fallacy. What about camera heating and high noise due to heating.
Good analysis and review!
Nice, concise and to the point! Your 6D II w/ Canon 24 1.4 for video really rocks!!! Having watched all your videos I wonder if you regret not using a combo like that in the past!
“What is this thing we are missing?” - Ties. Some of those were ties.
Yes he was already totally biased I think!!
For a Pro: NIKON
For a Tech Fan: SONY
For a photography lover: FUJI
Which Fuji? I'm a full time pro photographer and my D800 is nearing the end of its life so I'm looking for a replacement. Not too heavily invested in Nikon glass, so not a big problem for me to switch teams. Was mainly thinking of the D850, but also considered the Canon 5D Mk IV and Sony A7RIII. Which Fuji compares to these?
@@whitebuffalo4904 those are high MP sensors, only one that sort of compare from fuji is their medium format cameras ...... make sure you rent them before you buy them
@@whitebuffalo4904 D850 is one of the best cameras out there and is better than Canon 5D Mk IV. Sony A7Riii is good but soon Sony A7RIV is coming as well there is the Sony A7III which is very good as well with great price tag.
@@whitebuffalo4904 you can buy canon. they have good glass. if you have extra money you can get sony. but the lenses are expensive
interesting comparison. what did you shoot the video with, it looks awesome! Camera and lens? it's like 3d!
Oh my goodness, what a camera match up! I'm so blown away by the quality of your pictures on both systems that I don't care about the verdict. I think you have both said it before, cameras have reached such a level that it comes down to minor personal preferences, great pictures can be taken regardless if you work with what you have and develop your skills. BTW the clarity of the video on the Cannon is awesome.
😂 you’re using a Canon to film this, that’s funny
The Original ONION. Yes, see the last video of tony about the Canon 6DII (best vlogging camera) a few days ago. They use the combination 6DII plus 24 mm f1.4 from Canon in this Video (Chelsea confirmed this in the comments)
Nikon D850, last best DSLR...
Last? I guarantee we'll see more even better Nikons. I'll eat my shorts if we don't. Some try to act like they are going somewhere, but they aren't. If anything I see the benefits of mirrorless possibly merging with DSLRs more and more. I just can't see myself ever fully getting away from using big beautiful optical viewfinders.
Not sure about last, it probably is the best DSLR out right now
Oh it probably is. I use a D800 as my primary camera and it's still mind-blowing to me how good the overall image quality and functionality is. I haven't actually used a D800 (Edit: I mean D850), but it's 2 "generations" ahead of that so it's gotta be fantastic. I can see myself finally getting another Nikon DSLR when they inevitably release the "D860" or whatever the successor is to the D850. I am excited to see what they do with their first "pro" mirrorless camera though. Even if I don't get it it is exciting to see them do new things.
I still use a below-10,000 clicks D700. Stone age stuff that still works good. Very durable.
D700 is the same sensor as a D3. Not stone-age at all lol.
Should I go ahead and buy 6d mark ii or wait for mirrorless upgrade from canon? What do you guys think.? Thanks a lot.!
THANKS FOR THE GREAT VIDEO!!!!!!! LOVE YOU GUYS!!!!!
"oh yeah, we're using a canon to film this" LOL
Sony handling is much better with the GP-X1EM Grip Extension.
MaxBeanboom2. This is subjectiv
MaxBeanboom2 - agreed
Just found you guys. Great videos. Please, what did you shoot this on? (You said Canon, but what model & lens?)
Thanks for posting. Great info!
Yes, Chelsea, you DO matter! Next time have two score cards; it will make clear that everyone has their own preferences even when owning both. Sony would have still had more "X's" by Chelsea, but it would have been a narrower margin.
I don't own a Nikon (well that's not true, I own an N90 and N90s) so I'll qualify by saying I don't own a Nikon DSLR. In a way it did sound like Sony sponsored this vid (not both companies) but I've seen enough of your channel to know you're telling it is as you see it and it's not from being promoted one way or the other. Since the comparison was fair, that Sony kept getting "X's" over Nikon's flagship is something that Nikon and Canon should closely pay attention to. I agree with most of your assessments (see below). You guys are far more fair than the haters(?) give credit for.
I disagree with Tony! RE the battery thing: I have Sony and Canon. I don't take a lot of pix, relatively speaking. I can go a month or two before recharging the batteries in my 5Ds, but with a caveat; I do have a battery grip and have two batteries in it. With the Sony cameras that's just not the case. I always use a freshly charged battery every time. I've not done the troubleshooting, but it seems if the Sony camera goes to sleep and is inadvertently left on, I can look forward to a drained battery in days. I'd really have to do a test to confirm, but I have picked up the A7s thinking it had 70% or 80% charge left, then a couple days later it's down to around 20% or 30%. So when Chelsea said she can go a couple days without a a charge, I agree (though it's weeks or months for me). I would have easily given the check mark to the Nikon in this case.
Fun stuff. Been watching you guys for many years now.
Interesting you said you both reach for the Sony for night photography...my photography business partner has the Sony & I have the 850. Whether shooting outdoor concerts at night or the Milkyway we both feel the Nikon has better detail & less noise.
You’re saying I am biased yet my partner who shoots with the Sony agrees? How does that make ME biased?
First if you are going to be purchasing either of these two cameras let me say congratulations. Either way you can take the camera out of the equation as to why you got a bad shoot. They are both phenomenal bodies!
For me, I primarily shoot in deep wilderness so overall kit size and weight was most important. I bring the
Sony a7R3 with 16-35GM and 100-400GM (1.4x TC sometimes). I do landscape, wildlife, and astro with this.
Only reservations I had was dust/water, but I came up with a simple solution there.
Then there days like today where I'm doing street photography (just for fun). I just grabbed my a7R3 pair it with either the 50 f/1.8 or 28 f/2. That makes for such a small and light package and doesnt get people intimidated.
As for the feel of the camera in my hands (I have large hands). For portrait and long video shooting I use my Sony battery grip extender. For landscapes and wildlife I use RRS L bracket. But for all other cases (like street) I use the Meike extended grip. At only $53 on Amazon it gives you a place for your pinky and has a built in arca plate on the bottom as well as a 1/4x20. I did have to drill a hole for my Peak Design anchor. But for little weight you can give your right hand a ton of stability and really completes the feel of the camera...
Perhaps in a few years when Nikon has built and perfected their high res full frame mirrorless offering and get a bunch of new key lenses built on the new mirrorless mount I will reconsider.
All great info, Thanks for posting the video. I agree the eagle with the fish image is remarkable!
I'd go for the Nikon all the way. The D850 is the best DSLR to date,, and I shoot Canon (poor me)
I have honest use cases where Canon still works best for me. I use my 600 with strobes in continuous high frequently, Sony don't offer a 600 and don't have very fast frame rates with flash. 10fps is ok, but 14 with my 1DXII is way more than 10. Nikon is close with the D5 and 12fps, but I dislike the image look overall sometimes and in DR especially. The D850 is also only 9FPS. I just make a point to get close enough and my 1DXII slays the game.
I agree with you, but as far as image quality Canon is a little behind, especially in the price range in which the A73 is. Also remember that the D850 is a high MP camera, way higher than the 1DXII’s. Though, I still prefer Canon and the 1DXII is a beast.
Yea, I was just trying to say that Canon is the only brand that can do what I want personally for my use.
It's RIGGED! Sony is clearly paying them... Or Nikon is clearly paying them... Either way, I'm mad for some reason. Or happy...?
I liked this comment twenty seconds in
I liked this comment twenty seconds in
I'm mad too. How can the Sony win the battery section. The Nikon takes close to three times the pictures 1840 vs 650, take two batteries and you're right for a week, or more.
IBIS sucks for video too, so imo the D850 wins the stabilization section, and also the video (because Nikon doesn't suck like Sony does).
So there you have it.
D850 = 8.
Sony junk = 5, and minus another 1 because it's a Sony!
Edit* Disclaimer. I own several Nikon cameras and a range of lenses.
This in no way influences my opinion and my opinion is totally unbiased and fair.
Maybe it was Apple who is paying them to comfuse us into just using our IPhones in stead.
Greg Petroski I dont know to lik or dislike your comment. This is why I report it. just in case.
This video looks so much like a dream sequence :) I have a 6D mk ii and glad to see that you're warming up to this camera.
What camera setup did you shoot this video on it looks GREAT
Was this filmed with 24 1.4 and 6d II? Beautiful look!
Great video, although I felt it was a little too shallow a depth of field - made it almost look like a fake greenscreen background!
Yeah exactly
Alan Robertson I suppose that’s what I liked about it - it’s a look you wouldn’t be able to get any other way if it’s a full frame 24 1.4.
My first thought :)
I agree but I'd put one more L in Allan
timelapse is back with sony's latest firmware 3.0
Thank you. Very helpful. I was looking at SONY a7RV. My priority is night time and landscape. any feedback? Thanks JMF
I'm going to Iceland in April. Looking into a new camera Which cameras do you recommend I get.
Guys... I'll tell you what you're missing - *weighting*
Just counting the *number* of "Xs" is not enough, surely...?
I admit, I'm all for Nikon.
If camera A wins 10 X's by a small margin, but camera Y wins 5 X's by a large margin, I'd say camera Y is still better.
yea but that didnt happen, except in the timelapse department lol
Benoit Levesque if you buy that lens choice is close you are crazy ...
other than the the 500-600mm lens ... Sony has everything that Nikon has and most of the time they are better lens (
Agreed. Lenses, reliability and handling are far more important. When a average sized woman and a tall man both say the handling is better, that is saying a lot.
Lenses, well there is no photography without them.
I believe pricing and reliability go hand in hand. If budget is not an issue for you the whole comparison is pointless. However, if you have to save for the camera, (That's most of us, I think.) reliability is the ball game. So Nikon is less expensive and will last longer. That is Value.
The whole charging bit is a Tony thing. There are not many circumstances where charging is gonna be an issue, and if it is, there will also be a reliability issue and Nikon won there.
Video: Buy a Canon or Panasonic.
Every other category is either tied, depends on what you need it for, or personal taste.
That background blur seems unreal!
Shivam Naik. They are filming with Canon 6DII and 24mm F1.4
Agree, may even say it is green screen lol
GE KO just what i thought
Wonderful Report Thank you .. I have a question I am a painter and I love taking pictures of my paintings .. So I care about accuracy in colors .. And also love to travel any camera from these cameras advise me with the appropriate lens? With many thanks
Good video, thank you since I'm in the market for a new camera. Currently with a Nikon crop sensor so the logical next step seems to be the D850
Oh my god! Canon colors are so flattering to skin tones! It's refreshing to see you guys shot on Canon! looks great and creamy
Canon colors are to superficial , you may try nikon and postprocesing on lightroom with your colors !
For me you forgot the most important point - which barely somebody is talkin about.
No lens calibration with mirrorless any more!
It's never been a problem for us with DSLRs, either.
You are a specialist Tony, others not so much.
Ohh, I did not know! Thanks, I'll read up!
+13 to zero in my 70-200 vrii. Good thing I have it or I'd be dealing with Nikon's mind numbing repair and support people. ugh
How about the banding noise on raised shadows you get with mirrorless systems? Most mirrorless systems have historically had poore autofocus on stills compared to DSLRs.
Great video. I was surprised to see Sony come out ahead in so many categories. How do you both feel about the user interfaces?
Great review. Thank you
For several years now I have had a smaller USB charger made by Newmova for my Nikon D7000, D810, and now D850 batteries. It does not weigh half as much as the wall charge these cameras came with, and about half the size as well. It even charges 2 batteries at once!
I use my phone charger to charge my Sony in the car. 1 cord I never forget to grab. Very convenient.
Yeah, we use the USB battery charger for the Nikon, too... but it's nice to not need to travel with it, or to be able to top-off the battery in the car if you just forgot to charge it before leaving.
Nikon for me any day. I have big hands and Sony has too small body. Also I like optical viewfinder even after trying Sony out. No competition for me here, whoops
Mondrayy Is it true what they say about people with big hands?
LAZY DOG what, larger gloves?
Bigger feet yes
Sony lenses look bigger than Nikon for similar lenses. The mirrorless cameras are smaller. Big lenses on small bodies shift the center of gravity too far forward and are AWKWARD.
Love optical, but it is getting in the way of so much functionality.
A question about the third camera in this great comparison: What format/focal length/aperture are you recording with? Specifically, what’s the thinking behind such a shallow DoF that the cameras and whiteboard are only in focus when held against your chests? (I feel for the poor face-tracking AF, who seems to have a minor nervous breakdown whenever one of you leans in a few inches closer than the other!) In this situation, is closing down a few stops, and manually front-focusing an option for expanding near DoF while keeping the creamy background separation? Or is 4K just so unforgiving that even at f4 or f5.6, you’re best off choosing an eye and holding on for dear life? As a stills photog curious about video “best practice,” I’d love a look behind the scenes at how you make these framing/focusing choices. Thanks for all you do!
After 40 years of Nikon and Canon pro gear. I switched to Sony mirrorless and have never looked back. I have Sony A7RIII, A7III and A6500 with mix of Sony and Sigma glass. I don't miss anything about my old DSLRs or newer DSLRs like the D850. I love the distinct advantages of my mirrorless cameras every single time I use them. Cheers and thanks for the video Chelsea and Tony.
how'd you get sony AND nikon to sponsor you?
Samuel Burriss 😂 and the video was shot with a canon. They’re probably in on it, too
Clearly sponsored because they did not mention pentax which is way better than every other brand with the only rival being fuji
Tobias Yoder ha ha, they must be millionaires, being sponsored by every camera company except Pentax! 😁
Pentax is a living corpse and needs to be put out of its misery. Then, hopefully, we also get rid of the sad bunch who call themselves Pentaxians.
Glad you understand sarcasm!
So basically you can't go wrong if you buy either of these cameras.
Please, could you tell me what your setup for this video was. This is simply amazing. You appear so sharp and yet that bokeh right behind you simply looks out of this world.
Good discussion. It will be interesting to see what both companies come out with in the next couple months. :)
Nikon D850
Thanks for sharing your experience!
I have few objective issues that are critical for me and are missing from the video.
Sony is missing lossless compressed raw.
Not having it cost in a lot of unnecessary storage space.
Sony don’t have ISO 64 which is Nikon exclusive feature , and it has impact on actual shooting.
Nikon misses Flat profiles in video
That is very limiting serious video work.
Sony has a Pixel Shift mode.
Nikon has super effective automatic focus stacking.
By the end of the day I prefer the Nikon due to its handling ...
I tested both and I think you can’t go wrong with either.
yair tammam Sony has ISO 50
Wyvern Apalis sony Native minimal iso is 100
m.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-a7r-mark-iii-review/13
Extended ISO is not relevant ( Nikon has 32 so what ?)
I wish you could talk more about the image quality, or to more precise, the color science and overall look of the images. Are they similar? Skin tones are ok in both? Has Sony its particular tint in portraits vs the pleasant canon look? Thanks in advance
I don't know what it is, but your video looks so damn awesome, the colors and the light is phenomenal!!! Did u use extra light or sunlight or standard home lighting?! And u guys brought be even further to ho out and spend all my hard saved money on the A7riii. Are there going to be any workshops soon, especially near europe (Germany)?
I switched from Sony to Nikon just for the lenses! I got a used d750 with a Tamron 24-70 and 70-200 g1 lenses for $2400 TOTAL! Sony is great but if I wanted an A7iii with a 24-70 and 70-200 2.8 I'm looking at 6 grand! Lenses are way more important for me and live view isn't a deal braker for me. Let's see how Nikon mirrorless goes!
moo no af issues here! Fast and accurate for weddings and wildlife! And yes! Nikkor zooms are expensive but there's no 24-70 and 70-200 that cheap for the Sony system! 28-75 is ok but no 70-200 yet
moo well I'm getting great sharp results wide open and my clients seem to be very happy with the results and so am I!
moo and even if I was a pixel peeper, the dxomark scores for both lenses are the highest in class!
You could have used those same lenses on the Sony with an adaptor!
Yeah but you will never get the same as native performance, especially with Nikon. My point is just mainly for native lenses, there's more budget options for DSLRs
I’ve made the switch from Nikon to Sony and extremely happy.
Yup me too... just traded in ALL Nikon gear to B&H... took the funds and bought new Sony glass with.. Even with Nikon announcing it's new mirrorless would still need new Nikon mirrorless glass... or go with some "native" adapter.... nope... after 30 years goodbye Nikon not looking back at all...
Me too!
RIGHT!
Dub Glad you're happy with your burger. Can you do us a burger comparison so we all know which burgers are best? Did you have fries too? I prefer slightly more chunky fries to skinny ones
People are more likely to complain about a bad product that they are to praise a good product. So every time I see a post where someone has switched and they are really happy with Sony that actually holds a lot of weight.
What adapter do you recommend so I can use my Canon lenses on the Sony A7R lll until I get Sony lenses? Which Sony lens do you recommend to begin with for travel etc? Thanks!
THIS was a insightful comparison.. I'm on the cusp of big decision on which system to buy and had landed on these two cameras as my top picks. What I learned from you is that a) at a certain point the DXO numbers quantitative stats become largely irrelevant and the meaningful differences are mostly subjective, and b) I will need to rent these two cameras and try them out and make a decision based on those same subjective personal impressions. Well done!