Sony A7RIII vs Nikon D850 vs Canon 5D Mark IV | The Ultimate Camera
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Good to see more and more husband and wife team working together, awesome video guys
picked up the d850 in early December and its insane switched from canon 5d3 and insanely happy i did!
Awesome comparison! This was super helpful!
Great job on this review, I appreciate the detailed review.
Really helpful guys for this comparison.. Thanks you
5:01 That lens cap !!!
Thanathorn Pitakronachai Hahahaha. The best 😂 Had to film me with the camera and I totally forgot! I wasn’t shooting...🤦🏼♀️
Also 19:19 :)
it happens to the best of us ;)
never!! I never use it ;)))
ha ha ha
It's really helpful to make my decision.. thank you so much for your comparison.
LOVE YOU GUYS - I was literally looking for a video to answer these EXACT questions! THANK YOU!!!!!!!!
Awesome!!! Thank you so much
GREAT review, guys.
Amazing Production @Dan Watson. Great review.
Awesome!!! I just have to say that now you've included your wife in your reviews, this channel will grow exponentially. She is a natural in front of the camera presenting. No offense there mate it's 100% a compliment. This review is just what everybody want and you guys delivered. KUDOS.
Thanks guys. So informative 😀
super, I was waiting for this, Thank Dude
the only thing, I wish was a deeper review side by side, I feel you talk a lot and don't show side by side real comparetions
I think that are their perspectives, in this case, evaluated by his experience using these cameras.
With respect, youtube is full of scientific deeper reviews that give only numbers, so I appreciate listening subjective opinions, that allow oneself to draw our conclusions. The color issue for me is the most relevant for choosing a camera, but what can be a good color experience for me, for the others can be the worst. (First time I see someone preferring Sony colors, for me that was interesting about this review and I appreciate the honesty of saying it when everyone speaks in the opposite way). With the raw files I think the decision can be more easy.
Yeah, it's definitely a trade off between keeping things interesting and going deeper in to tests on the review side. But if you check out the individual reviews for each of the 3 cameras, I think you will find more detailed info! Thanks for watching though and for the insight. For example, we didn't talk about pixel shift on the A7RIII but you can find the test and resulting image on the A7RIII review as well as more low light testing and DR tests.
Thanks, do you use something to add sun rays to your photographs or is it natural? Looks great.
All natural!!!
You Guys knocked it out of the park, with an endorsement from any one of those companies, potentially. Great Job you Two!!!
Eye Af is amazing in good light..for backlit situations its like any other camera..put the box on the eye yourself..lol
and there is a dedicated button for eye af
i do that. shutter button = normal spot AF, Eye af button = eye af. i dont need to change any settings to swap between the two
This is probably the most unbiased comparison of anything on youtube! Superb job, great "quick" reviews and you kept my interest up the entire time. For some weird reason it's the first video I see from you guys but not the last. Olympus shooter here but love watching this kind of stuff anyway!
Regards
Rasmus
Thank you so much Rasmus!!!!
Love the way you explained. good job.
I like shooting landscapes, so I went with the D850. Unreal image quality.
Nice and informative video guys. Question what camera/lens setting did you use for your outdoor and indoor video?
Great job guys, I absolutely love watching your channel 🙌🙌
Thanks Barry!!!
Great video guys
Nice to see you here:) Bought A7Riii because of your channel! Warm hello from Russia.
Manny i love your videos 😍
Agreed Mr. Ortiz,... nice review!
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Here are SAMPLE PHOTOS on different ISO onfotolife.com
I HAVE WAITED, IT HAS ARRIVED!
Thank you this really helped me to make a decision.... all three are out of my budget!
What gear was used to shoot the actual video? Great video. You got a new sub!
Thanks! Everything was shot on the A7III except for us talking which was the GH5
Very nice video. I enjoyed your perspective and how the video itself was produced.
All three cameras make beautiful images. It is a great thing that each has their own strengths and we benefit as consumers from choice. I hope all three continue to push each other with new and great cameras so that we as photographers all win.
Just want to say I love the work you both are putting in. I really appreciate it.
splendid review folks
at 17:34, it's really showing Canon extra magenta tone on the white shirt, the Sony's white is better. This is really good review from real working photographers, not like bunch of other youtubers sitting indoor and talking about specs, real life hands on reviews like this are always great and fun to watch! For me personally, I still use Canon bodies for Wedding (zoom lenses) and wildlife/adventure where more lens options are available and they can get beaten up by weather, I use Sony for videos and prime zeiss / GM lenses because it offers IBIS!
Amazing work as always Dan. That Sony A7RIII is such a dream camera just recently trade my Canon 5DIV and finally moved to mirrorless
Good Job, I made the switch from 5DIII to a7rII, 3 years ago, best decision (in photography) I ever made. Now I have a7rIII and it even better.
Thats amazing. Congratulations on the new Sony A7RIII
Hii, still preferring the Sony ?
@@zeb2977 Absolutely, Now currently shooting with the A7RIV.
Great review you two... I just got the a7riii what a beast.. Loving it so far.. The d850 is also monster can't go wrong with either.
6:20 The eye autofocus probably focused on flowers because you are Using it by holding a middle button where the control wheel is. What happens when you press the shutter button, your finger stops holding eye AF button, and focus goes to standard mode. Thats why there is a Focus Lock button on lenses, to set the Eye AF there. I was shooting through flowers today and for the past 2 years with eye AF, NEVER EVER camera focused on something else. EYE AF Cant focus on sometheng else except the eye. You have to hold AF Lock to the end, after the pic taken
She did something wrong for sure.
Yeah kinda odd that everyone else says eye autofocus is amazing and yet she had a problem.
Disgusting yes, take a picture of your mom and see for yourself. You’ll be amazed
not yet. soon
Yes she didn't use back button focus, it mean that she is not really photographer just a youtuber
a great comparison and a great video! What impressed me the most was the video itself, shots/angles, cuts, format and music; a great re-vamping of your videos for 2018! more like this.
Appreciate that!!! With Sally in the video I got to focus a bit more on shooting video which was nice. It's never easy to shoot video AND be in front of the camera! Definitely going to be doing this more
Impeccable comparison 👍
I switched back from Sony to Nikon D850 (was Nikon shooter for ages before) because of more defects in Sony cameras and lenses I ever thought could have happened. Probably I just wasn't that lucky.
IQ on any of these cameras can be great and I am convinced that the photographer in most cases is the limiting factor😉 and not the camera. I am with you that the AF button of the D850 is poorly placed and would be great if it were possible to place it somewhere else via firmware update. I helped myself with programming the FN1 with AF-area mode + AF On to switch from the standard single point AF. I almost never shoot videos therefore the only real weak point AF in live view is of no importance to me. I adjusted the color balance of the monitor one to the right and one down and am very happy with the colors.
Yes and I like your reviews as you know to shoot good pics which is far from being standard among all the wannabe bloggers.
Ernst
A helpful round-up. This is a tough decision. An investment really. It isn’t just about the best camera, you have to take the lens ecosystem into account. (As well as company history - to consider what they might do in the future) So the more user and real world experience I can digest, the better. Thanks for the review.
Each camera has its own strength in *photo, video, or audio* performances. No single camera can do the best of *all three* in order to win over other brands by their latest designs.
Which camera do you think is better for a videography?
And 5 years later of all these three companies, Sony offers the widest and cheapest mirrorless lens catalogue from their own line and from third party manufacturers. After Fuji X, it's also Sony the one with the largest number of APS-C lenses.
Great video Dan, few times I see unbiased gear reviews, nevertheless I believe you are one of the most unbiased guys. That give you credibility, keep going!
we are so lucky with the choices we have today, all of these cameras are superb, way beyond anything we ever dreamed of, and it just gets better and better year after year. I used to be Canon, but changed last year to Olympus for form factor and Sony for hi-res dynamic range photography. so happy with my gear :-)
I’ve seen other channels discuss these cameras. But this is the first one I’ve seen that has given examples and critiques without just talking about it and being impartial.
I do have film photography background. In February 2017 I received an entry level Nikon as a gift, and purchased speedlites, a zoom lens and other equipment. A month ago after a year of use, and careful research, i bought a Nikkor 50mm 1.8G Prime lens which works with both APS-C and full frame. It is phenomenal. If I thought about giving my son my existing body and use the new lens with a new Nikon body or switch to Sony or Canon. Now that I’ve seen this comparison, I will stick with Nikon. I shoot minor hockey photographs. The D85O would be a great choice considering the dynamic range and frame rate, and other features that are not in my existing camera. The Nikon system is the best choice for me.
A7R3 & A9 for me but at this point and time almost any camera in that class can get the job done. Go Shoot and create people :) Great review guys loved it.
Excellently done testing. I shoot the Nikon D850 and have large hands, so the Sony is out of the equation. Just this afternoon I had one in my hands at the camera store and my middle finger gets crushed between the hand grip and the lens. It's too darned small. The Canon? It has all the features that should have gone into the 5D3 five years ago. The photo quality I'm getting from my Nikon D850 is astonishing. Portrait have a 3D look to them that the others can't produce. Thanks guys.
Great vdo of reviewing.Thank you.
Wow, what an amazing shoots, amazing edit and amazing review, your wife is so natural speaking in front of the camera!
you got a new subscriber!
Appreciate that!
I find that for the Sony if you use the AF-ON button for eye focus is great because you enable it only when you want rather than having to turn it on/off. I am sure you know that if you used older models
I wish you could upload one for Landscapes Field Test ! great video btw
Best review I've seen so far. Thanks for the quality of the content. You won a subscriber ;)
If you were starting from 0 and the weight of the camera was not a relevant factor -because of the weight/size of the lenses- would you also choose Sony for the final image? You think that with the MC 11 adapter or the Metabones we will lose too much in the Sony Body? (I read that Sigma is coming soon with native lenses for Sony, but I find interesting to have lenses with the adaptor because we never know if in the future Canon will come back again. (Or in the case we use different bodies for different jobs).
When will you have available the raw files?
Appreciate that!!! Awesome to have you as a sub. I would definitely pick Sony if live view means anything to you. It's great for shooting over your head, low to the ground, on tripods, or for shooting video.
If I was starting from scratch, I'd get all native Sony lenses unless you shoot mostly landscape or non moving images. The adapters work and the Sigma lenses/adapters are certainly the best but it's not nearly as quick and reliable as Sony glass for autofocus. Should have the RAW files up later tonight!
Another photographer noted a focus problem with A7r3and 85f1.4. A Sony tech cued him to a new firmware upgrade for the camera and a firmware upgrade for the lens which took care of the problem. Afterwards, he said the focus was quicker and spot on, keeping in mind that the 85mm has a lot of glass in it and it will always focus slower than the 24-70 or 70-200 GMs.
Just discovered your channel, really like your reviews
Thanks!
Great video Dan, sold my Canon 5D 4 after using the Sony A9. I now have the A9 and A7r3. Focus accuracy across the sensor using Sony prime lenses is incredible.
Appreciate that Jason. Man, an A9 & A7RIII....I'm jealous!!!
Thanks nice comparison!
Great talk guys! Loved the b-roll in the field :) Which camera & lens was used there?
As for the rest, I think that nowadays technology has reached a level which enables us to do unbelievable things. So it all comes down to personal preferences and specific use.
As a travel photographer, the Sony Alpha system is the one that suits me best especially for the reduced dimensions of the camera body and the amazing sensor.
Keep it up!
Thanks! We used the GH5 for the b-roll in the field and the 6D Mark II for the b-roll with everything else.
Great points! I know a ton of travel photographers that are using Sony now because of exactly what you said
Just came across your videos. Dude... Great taste in music, awesome B-roll and amazing reviews?? Dude... (and lady) you guys rock absolute bosses!
Awesome!!! Great to hear
You upped the quality a lot, subscribed.
Awesome!
Awesome Reviews.
Nice work. please make more videos like this
Hey guys, love your work. The scene beginning at 5:05 is amazing... I keep replaying it. What did you guys used to stabilize the footage and did you use a drone for some areas?
Thanks! I just used a gimbal...the Moza Aircross in this case. I do believe I had 2 drone shots in that sequence as well. All the gear I used to shoot it is in a link in the description if you are interested
Awesome comparison! Thank you. Which one out of these (or out of some others) would you recommend for nature or wild life photography? Midrange options? Would you have a fav lense (s) for shooting pictures of animals, birds? Thank you again!
Hi Dan nice review, How do you make video like that on minutes 1:34, if you dont mind please give me the link for tutorial video, thank you in advance
Awesome reviews as always.
I can ask a question which camera you used to do that's beautiful slow mo videos??
Thanks! All the gear we used is listed in a link below but the slow mo video was shot with the GH5
This so so amazing!!!!!!!❤️❤️
Very nice review guys! Very tough decision you put me on! I was deciding between mk iv and sony R iii for weddings ( being a canon shooter) listening your adapter issues with Sony, still do you think I can do it for weddings?
Thanks Mike! I would definitely have a tough time shooting adapters for a wedding. I've found the AF to be less reliable although it is definitely improving. But I would be absolutely fine taking an RIII to a wedding. However, reliability has been less than stellar so far and I've heard of firmware updates messing things up so just an FYI. Plus it is very advanced and sometimes changing one setting will affect 3 other things so make sure you know the camera. We have had no issues so far with the A7RIII.
thanks Dan, I know you've been shooting w RII, so your opinion was important to me. I guess I am moving to RIII ( kind concern about the firmware updates you mentioned, but let's see ) appreciate it !
this one has to be one of the best videos for a long time for me. with the editing being the most impressive. the review itself is exceptional
Except for the obnoxious music
Wonderful Unbiased video! I was on the fence about a picture with no editing and no guessing on blurr during one shot opportunities like weddings... you can count on Sony because what you shoot is what you get(mirrorless advantage). I'm currently a Canon 70D user of 3 years and seriously about to make the jump to full frame. I'm pretty sure I'm leaning toward the Sony A7 III (much better reviews than the R for the price). Thanks and please do a review on the Sony A7r3 vs. the A7 3
I have the A7iii and its a beast
erxtreamly good low light, dynamic range, video, and autofocus. I can just recommend her.
Switched from top-end Canon gear (40 years a Canon user) to Sony last Januray and would never go back to Nikon or Canon DSLRs. Have Sony A7R3 (upgraded from A7R2) and also A6500, and love them both. Four decades a pro.
Why?
great review! but could you make a review with sony cameras for example the r3 or the sony a7ii with adapted lenses only?
With which setup did you film the great video shots? Kind regard from germany
Thank you for yet another great video and review, guys :)
I have the Sony A7RIII, and a lot of Canon L glass. So far, I have only one Sony lens, the new 24-105/4. But the Canon glass works great with Sony using the latest Metabones V adapter. It is a game changer. I tried out the IV version with the A7RII last year, but not happy with that. The new version V has no focus issues with any of my Canon glass (except for the 100 macro in macro mode, but that I focus manually anyway) on the A7RIII , and you also get proper metadata from the lens, meaning the actual lens name comes up in Lightroom metadata, and you can use Canon lens profiles in LR - you could not do that with the version IV. Tracking sports with the Canon 100-400 is a breeze with the Sony/Metabones V.
I will highly recommend to get the battery grip for the Sony, though. The camera is just too small to hold comfortably without the grip, especially with longer lenses, but makes a big difference also with smaller size lenses. Holding the camera simply becomes more relaxed and sturdy with the battery grip on.
I tried out the Canon 5D mkIV as a possible replacement for my mkIII, but I found the improvements so minor that it was just not worth the money. The Sony A7RIII just feels and performs like a modern camera, taking advantage of new technology to improve (most important) your images and your user experience. So, still very happy as a mixed Sony/Canon shooter, and will remain so, I think. Only depends on what Canon have up their sleeve :) www.canonrumors.com/more-information-about-the-new-camera-line-cr1/
I own the a7R III, agree on the setup and Eye AF, seems like a fair review. I was a Canon user for 15 years, I sold everything and moved the the a7R III. Combinations of silent shooting, IBIS, BSI Sensor, size, EVF, and video features. I shoot with mostly primes, I have the 55mm 1.8, 35mm 2.8, 85mm 1.8 and the 24-105mm F4. I did not feel like those were that over priced. And the 35mm 2.8 on the a7R III is such a small carry around package for daily shooting.
James, That 35mm 2.8 is one of the best street and event lens. May I ask, Is it me or when you switch to Sony. You start shooting Prime Lenses more?
I always did shoot prime lenses a lot, my go to on the Canon was the 35mm F2 IS, but the IBIS really shines with fast primes. If your subject is still, you can shoot crazy low light photos handheld.
James Ryan same boat here James I too after many Canon years, switched over 4 bodies later I don't regret it..
24-105 f4, or 24-70 f2.8?
Afonso Campos depends on what you are shooting 24-70mm if you are an event shooter or portrait pro is the better option as it is better in low light and gives you the shallow depth of field you get to separate the subject from the background, the f4 is better for a travel shooter or street photographer who doesn't want to change lenses in between, it is versatile and gives you more reach and less scary and weight than switching to a 70-200 mm which can be intimidating and heavy to carry.
Awesome ! I like that you guys went through everything almost ! I wish you can work on another comparison about the VIDEO Quality and bitrate in depth (at least between the Nikon and Sony) plzzzzz do it even if a Short one just to see which produce better footage
Thanks Moe! I'd definitely lean Sony for that because of the Log and oversampling. Both output 8bit and while the Nikon bitrate is higher, you could always go with an external recorder if that was an issue. I would say the A7RIII has more detail in the video than Nikon. Autofocus is always great too.
Dan Watson Thank you!!
Woah nice I noticed a few background places there! You shot around Downtown Orlando right? Nice to see creatives from out in central FL. Keep doing these awesome reviews! You have a subscriber.
Thanks so much Peter! Yep, we are Orlando local. It's great to see so many others in the area
Great video, and a helpful comparison. I did get a nice little chuckle seeing the lens cap on at 5:01 ;)
Scott Brady I did too! Haha. Darn B roll shot! 😂
Great video Sally and Dan.
GREAT VIDEO BLOODY HELL!!NICE LUTS AND QUALITY MUSIC TOO
Thanks Warren!!!
Great video. Would love to see a Part 2 comparing the three in mixed lighting and low light AF speed/accuracy. From personal experience owning both cameras the Sony AWB does funky things with non daylight light sources whereas the Nikon d850 just seems to be spot on. A huge boon when shooting thousands of pics at an event/wedding.
Great review!
Thank you!
Man!!! This might be your best video yet. Very well put together, nice work.
Thorough coverage of all the cameras was great
Very good video guys,which camera used for video and what resolution
Thanks! It was shot on the Canon 6DII and GH5 and a mix of 4k and 1080p
Dan Watson awesome look very clear your image like was everything shoot on 4k
Thanx. Liked your video!
Great video still holds up today and fair use and boy the Glass the Glass so important. Plus Photographer, so all are great just what works best with someone plan, I am leaning Nikon still haven't ruled out Sony. Curious to see what an upgrade does to the Z7.
great test and helpful
When they come out, I would like to see your reviews on the Sony A7 4 and the Fuji XT 4 which is not full frame but should give all those mentioned above a go for the money.
Great vid guyz. What ive really learnt from this video is that the gear doesnt matter.
Great video and review! Is it not fair to say though that the Nikon and the sony pretty much use the same sensor though? I thought they were both Exmoor sensors?
I love the video, despite the review. The video is a pleasure to watch. I don't know how you did it, but i love it. The pictures, the angles, the transition, it's just beautiful. Great job Dan. Thumbs up.
Appreciate that!!!
what focus mode was used on the sony, when trying to get eye-af thru the weeds? comment indicated af-s: "it will focus on the eye, but once i take the picture it goes oof"... for eye-af, it should have been shot with af-c, using back-button af, the shutter would have had no effect on the focusing... use a proper portrait lens for shooting people, like the gm85/1.4, because it's faster and it has a focus limiter that probably would have made a difference with the weeds in the field situation.
canikon does not have anything like eye-af, for weddings and portraits and such sony is the way to go... most people pick the a9 for that tho, because the af is a bit better.
Dan, I have warned you before. You may not realize what she is up to, but if you keep giving her face time, it will be the ‘Sally Watson’ channel. Great job. My wife uses the D850. I’m Sony, A9 and A7rii.
hahaha. That's interesting, in our house it was my wife with the Sony & me with the D850! I have to steal the Sony from her when she isn't looking when I need to shoot some video though
I thought i'd get the A7III but realised that i have heavily invested the nikon gears. Currently using the nikkor 14-24mm2.8G, 24-70mm2.8G, 70-200mm2.8FL, 50 and 85mm. so i decided to get the Nikon D850. hopefully it was a good investment.great review also. Maybe in a couple years time ill look at a lighter body.
How’s your experience using the d850?
I use both and the Sony will give you better focus, it’s lighter. Image quality is similar.
Nice job! Dan, here is a tip for Nikon focus modes. I keep the camera in Continuous focus 100% of the time. Then, I have the AF-ON button set to lock focus. So, I use the shutter button to focus and take photos, then lock the focus when needed with the AF-ON button. Try it! I like it much better than switching focus modes.
THANKS MAN!! YOU ARE ABIG BIG ROBIN HOOD! FREE RAWS WITH THE SAME SHOTS!!! WOW!!!! THNAKS!!!
Excellent video guys....I have the Canon 5D Mark IV and the Sony A9. For wildlife & sports I use the Sony A9 and use the 5D Mark IV for landscapes. I find both these cameras give me some amazing pictures.
Interesting. I wish you would have used the same poses for all three cameras and used almost the same rate of speed cards for all cameras. This would have leveled the playing field. Great work, guys!
Beautiful visuals and editing - loved it. Big thumbs up for the hard work and effort you guys put in to make this video.
Did you find that you had to keep SS very high to prevent camera shake in the big D850, with non VR lenses? IBIS in the Sony which stabilizes all lenses for both photo and video is a great feature to have.
Thanks Binnu!!! I only used VR lenses with the D850 but I would say yes, you would need to keep the SS high. There is a large amount of shutter slap on the camera for sure...you can feel it. For landscapes though I drop it in live view and use the silent shutter so absolutely no problem with shutter slap with landscapes if you do that which is a great feature that the 5D4 doesn't have
IBIS is poor for long lenses, which I shoot.
All Sony long lenses have OSS, which takes over 3 axes, and the IBIS only stabilizes 2 axes. Yes, lens stabilization is better at long FLs, which is why Sony does put OSS in those lenses.
very beautiful comparison.
Excellent. Well done.
finally i was looking for this kind of video to make me decided either the nikon d850 or canon 5d 4
nikon > canon
When you factored in the weight of systems did you also account for the extra batteries to achieve the same shots? For example, you can carry 1 battery for a D850 for an entire day, where as the Sony would need 2-3 minimum. Also G Master lenses are no lighter than the Canon and Nikon Pro glass. At 85G a pop, a A7R3 with 3 spare batteries is the same weight as a D850 with 1 battery (Sony 530 shots CIPA, D850 shots 1840 CIPA). The Sony system is lighter if you don't have a lens, and minimal after that.
The Sony battery life on the A7RIII is amazing. I don't care what the specs say, I rarely change batteries on the Sony and easily make it through shoots. With the Sony you do less image previewing since with the EVF you can see your image as you are shooting it! Chimping is over so that's probably why. We were using the 24-70 lenses mostly and the Nikon 24-70 F2.8 VR is over 1/2 lb heavier than the Sony 24-70 GM plus the 1/2lb difference in the camera itself is absolutely noticeable after 8hours with the camera hanging off your shoulder. Looks like the 70-200 F2.8 is closer with the nikon being .25lbs heavier
Hi- very impressive review. Can you please guide the best camera between 5dm4 and d850 for video as well as photography.
Thanks! If you are shooting video too and don't NEED 4k, the 5Dm4 is a better choice
I thought you were Carrie Underwood at first taking pics!! Love the video! Great job!!