the German incendiary bomb, according to my Mother (Blitz veteran...76 nights), the incendiary was a tube with flights at one end and the other end weighted to smash through roof tiles. They were filled with magnesium and burned like hell. there are several wartime public information films about how to tackle a burning incendiary, a case of DO try this at home.
You must be in london i can just hear parakeets in the very background. Nice job, looks like an airfix original i thought it might just be an old frog kit revival
Great build Gary! That crew compartment looks properly busy and will look great under the "greenhouse". I'm very tempted to get one of these. Looking forward to the finale!
I remember building the original Airfix in 1975 or so, and it produced a pretty nice looking Flying Pencil. This is leagues better, but the first version wasn't bad!
In regards to weathering places you don't think you'll see there are two ways I think of it. 1-Don't do it as it will save me time. 2-Do it anyway and use it for practice for when I need to do it on areas that will be seen.
You got there mate ,I watched this video and then heard about our queen ,she’s a mum and nan and it’s a sad day for the whole U.K. ,be safe Gary and all of the subs ,Take care
Great video Gary sir this influenced me on getting the model kit for myself. Can't wait to see you paint it I'm sure you'll do an awesome job. I look forward to the video. 👍
Very intricate kit with a lot of fine details. The framework by the glass dome was awkward and what a greenhouse😯. Great looking build so far,Gary. I look forward to the next stage 👍😎Pete 🤓
Hi Gary, the Do 17 is looking fantastic, I could be converted from 1/48th to 1/72nd for some builds, looking forward to the next installment, best regards from a Kiwi living in Australia.
Great job on the Dornier. Excellent paintwork on the cockpit. I wish you would have included the air crew figures. The mask set really looks good.....plus saves a lot of grief. Noticed some areas needing burnishing down. I hope you don't get under spray there. Happy modeling. Bill
Gary Thanks for the video I feel your pain I’ve just built 2 airfix kits in a row and they are a lot of hard work but eventually,they build into nice kits.I’m frustrated at the size of the gates and placement and also some parts, the moulding leaves a lot to be desired.Really appreciate your hard work on this to give us a heads up, cheers
Gary, my condolences on the passing of the queen . This model will be difficult for any manufacturer for the complicated cramped conditions of the cockpit. As for the wraparound part the fits above the clear lower part if I remember correctly put I the piece first and then attach the clear part. Please do the 1/48 airfix spitfire mk.vb. thanks.
excellent job Gary, Im considering getting one of these, I like a challenge as this looks to be just that and I have been nagging you to do this, keep up the great work and thanks doing the DO17 love the German bombers it just all that masking the canopies !!!! I have a 1/32 Revell JU88 under construction so I feel the pain, I'll see if I can send you some pics when I get it done if that's ok?
The small flaps on the tail are trim flaps, so if the aircraft was flying a bit nose down or up the pilot could alter the trim permanently with a control on the panel without having to hold the rudder in place or keep adjusting it.
@@garys_stuff I think the trim tab on the variable incidence tail plane is the same as for a normal tailplane but it's more for fine tuning the trim rather than try and trim the whole tail plane itself.
If you look back at 12.43, 44 you actually get that seat to sit in it's correct position! I've built this model the 2015 Paul defiant kit and it fits no issues! But you did get it to seat at this time stamp I've rewound and watched it a few times seeing what you'd maybe done wrong also it's just slightly to far forward should just be on the edge of that part.ypu have to cut the seat out to fit it against the head rest sits right in between the long amd short further back pad
If that wheel is just behind the pilot's seat, I would /guess it's a manual control for the undercarriage in case the hydraulics failed. I don't /know/ but it's a guess. If it was for the bomb bay you'd have to keep checking if it worked, but the pilot could just say 'Gear is down!' to whoever was on the wheel.
I remember somewhere reading about bomb doors that had weak links in them so if they failed to open then the ordnance falling on them would open them permanently. Not on the Do17, something allied, or I may have dreamt it...
'It takes time'.. the 6Ps :) Proper Planning Prevents P*** Poor Performance. Time taken to mask properly now will make the later painting much easier. I know you agree Gary, the comment was aimed more at others watching the video.
@@garys_stuff Re masking cockpits. I had an idea.. unsure of how practical it would be. Lay a single piece of masking tape over the entire cockpit then either; a) Score through at the edge of each pane and peel the resulting frame off. or b) Draw with a sharp pencil around the panes, peel the wholetape off and then cut each pane along where you drew to make your own set of masks. Then place each pane on the cockpit.
Gary, is there a bit of masking Airfix forgot? At the rear of the underside canopy. The ring (frame) around the gunport is masked but what about the glass area behind it?
Dunno - it isn't Airfix BTW it's an after market thing. Airfix doesn't supply masks. Apparently they send test shots of the transparencies out to various suppliers.
@@garys_stuff Thanks for your quick reply The cockpit assembly looked a bit of a handful at times, but you nailed it in the end. But thanks to Airfix for wacking in some masks for this one. Or it would have made it (Gulp!) even more difficult
Question re model dates, as I've not looked. Is the copyright on the box the same as on the instructions? My guess is the latter is the tooling date too?
Can't find any dates on the box or instructions! There are many things covered by copyright in the kit - the kit itself, the instruction sheet, the box art and the box design (although the latter might be a design right, I've been out of the legal loop for a while). So there could be a date for the box, a date for the instructions and a different date for the kit itself. I just go by what appears on Scalemates as they seem to track these things really well.
I used the Eduard one - EDXC411 - but I know Peewit and Montex also sell them. Whichever you get make sure it is for the Airfix kit of the Do-17Z, there will be small differences between makes!
If you mean a mask for the transparent parts then there are many online stores that stock them, also many smaller outlets on auction sites. Just do a search for "paint mask airfix lancaster" and you'll get plenty!
the German incendiary bomb, according to my Mother (Blitz veteran...76 nights), the incendiary was a tube with flights at one end and the other end weighted to smash through roof tiles. They were filled with magnesium and burned like hell. there are several wartime public information films about how to tackle a burning incendiary, a case of DO try this at home.
I like your builds because you treat it as just a hobby.
You must be in london i can just hear parakeets in the very background. Nice job, looks like an airfix original i thought it might just be an old frog kit revival
Airfix created a new tooling in 2014 for the Do17z even the old one wasn't too bad.
Great build Gary! That crew compartment looks properly busy and will look great under the "greenhouse". I'm very tempted to get one of these. Looking forward to the finale!
It is cramped to be sure, but rewards a bit of care. I'm enjoying it, to be fair.
I remember building the original Airfix in 1975 or so, and it produced a pretty nice looking Flying Pencil. This is leagues better, but the first version wasn't bad!
Never made the old one, maybe I should find one and have a go!
In regards to weathering places you don't think you'll see there are two ways I think of it.
1-Don't do it as it will save me time.
2-Do it anyway and use it for practice for when I need to do it on areas that will be seen.
Good call. I think I would err on the side of "I don't know if that will be seen or not..."!
Hi Gary, just here to remind you you have done a great job so far,really looking forward to the rest of the build!
Cheers Kieran!
My kit has the same problem with the top starboard seat. I was relieved to find your video, and I'll use your work-around. Thank you!
This is a cracking get. Paint mask is more of less required but it's a very satisfying build.
Looking great Gary. Looking forward to seeing tomorrows video. Thanks for sharing! 😎🇨🇦
Thanks 👍
Great job Gary, your master modeling skills and patients are really shinning through. Looking forward to the rest of the construction!
Cheers Will.
Thanks for the tip onweathering and highlighting the details Gary tremendous , the Dornier looks amazing :)
My pleasure, glad you liked it!
You got there mate ,I watched this video and then heard about our queen ,she’s a mum and nan and it’s a sad day for the whole U.K. ,be safe Gary and all of the subs ,Take care
Terrible day, mate. You stay safe too.
Great job son.
I built the original Airfix one back in the day.
Looking forward to seeing the end job son.
Cheers Joe!
Great video Gary sir this influenced me on getting the model kit for myself. Can't wait to see you paint it I'm sure you'll do an awesome job. I look forward to the video. 👍
Thanks Mario!
Nice one Gary. Looks like a few fiddly bits but overall not too bad for such a complex little bomber.
Cheers Huw!
Very intricate kit with a lot of fine details. The framework by the glass dome was awkward and what a greenhouse😯. Great looking build so far,Gary. I look forward to the next stage 👍😎Pete 🤓
Cheers Pete!
@@garys_stuff I enjoyed every minute of your struggle👍😎
Hi Gary, the Do 17 is looking fantastic, I could be converted from 1/48th to 1/72nd for some builds, looking forward to the next installment, best regards from a Kiwi living in Australia.
Thanks Les! Not a bad kit at all. 1/72 isn't such a bad thing, especially in crowded spaces!
Great job on the Dornier. Excellent paintwork on the cockpit. I wish you would have included the air crew figures. The mask set really looks good.....plus saves a lot of grief. Noticed some areas needing burnishing down. I hope you don't get under spray there. Happy modeling.
Bill
Thanks mate!
You make it look so easy
You don't hear all the background cursing. Editing is a powerful tool. The camera might never lie, by Filmora helps cover things up!!!
Gary
Thanks for the video
I feel your pain
I’ve just built 2 airfix kits in a row and they are a lot of hard work but eventually,they build into nice kits.I’m frustrated at the size of the gates and placement and also some parts, the moulding leaves a lot to be desired.Really appreciate your hard work on this to give us a heads up, cheers
My pleasure John, hope you enjoy some of my other videos!
thanks for the video this was fantastic gretings from holland.
Thanks Mario!
Its a tailplane not a horizontal stabiliser. (If you're British.)
Hi mate as regards to the large wheel in the cockpit I think you will find it is the trim wheel,the build is looking good, well done mate
Hell of a size for a trim wheel but could be good old German over-engineering! Thanks mate!
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Gary, my condolences on the passing of the queen . This model will be difficult for any manufacturer for the complicated cramped conditions of the cockpit. As for the wraparound part the fits above the clear lower part if I remember correctly put I the piece first and then attach the clear part. Please do the 1/48 airfix spitfire mk.vb. thanks.
Thanks Dan, good tip. I'll think about the Spitfire but I did the XVIII not long ago which is similar but I'll look anyway.
excellent job Gary, Im considering getting one of these, I like a challenge as this looks to be just that and I have been nagging you to do this, keep up the great work and thanks doing the DO17 love the German bombers it just all that masking the canopies !!!! I have a 1/32 Revell JU88 under construction so I feel the pain, I'll see if I can send you some pics when I get it done if that's ok?
Cheers Shaun! If you do FB you can join Gary's Friends' Stuff and display your work! A 1/32 Ju88 is a beast!
@@garys_stuff yer not wrong Gary I'll do that young fella !!! cheers... Shaun.
The small flaps on the tail are trim flaps, so if the aircraft was flying a bit nose down or up the pilot could alter the trim permanently with a control on the panel without having to hold the rudder in place or keep adjusting it.
indeed, but there are elevator trim tabs plus a variable incidence tailplane. Just curious as to the need for that!
@@garys_stuff I think the trim tab on the variable incidence tail plane is the same as for a normal tailplane but it's more for fine tuning the trim rather than try and trim the whole tail plane itself.
First to comment and I'm in Australia. Always look forward to your videos Gary.
Cheers Barry!
Great start Sir. Get those toothpick sanding stick thingy ma bobs patented and on the market. You can have the name for free
Cheers JB - I'll look into it!
That looks like a similar nose to the JU88. I seem to remember my Airfix Kit early 1970s being somewhat different.
Possibly the nose designs changed with different versions of the Do17. The kit in the 70s was a Do17E/F, this current one is a Do17z.
@@garys_stuff yes I believe so it does now look like a Ju88 nose rather that a do17 nose.
*chuckles* In the unboxing video I think you said the clear pieces were a greenhouse Gary :)
Oh yes!
If you look back at 12.43, 44 you actually get that seat to sit in it's correct position! I've built this model the 2015 Paul defiant kit and it fits no issues! But you did get it to seat at this time stamp I've rewound and watched it a few times seeing what you'd maybe done wrong also it's just slightly to far forward should just be on the edge of that part.ypu have to cut the seat out to fit it against the head rest sits right in between the long amd short further back pad
OK but if you have to cut the seat out to fit - surely something is wrong? Or did I miss something?
If that wheel is just behind the pilot's seat, I would /guess it's a manual control for the undercarriage in case the hydraulics failed. I don't /know/ but it's a guess. If it was for the bomb bay you'd have to keep checking if it worked, but the pilot could just say 'Gear is down!' to whoever was on the wheel.
I remember somewhere reading about bomb doors that had weak links in them so if they failed to open then the ordnance falling on them would open them permanently. Not on the Do17, something allied, or I may have dreamt it...
@@garys_stuff *LOL* at 'Open them permanently'.. I suspect the rest of the crew would find the flight a tad al fresco as well :)
'It takes time'.. the 6Ps :) Proper Planning Prevents P*** Poor Performance. Time taken to mask properly now will make the later painting much easier. I know you agree Gary, the comment was aimed more at others watching the video.
I agree completely Julian. Preparation is key. If you want to mess it up, rush it!
@@garys_stuff Re masking cockpits. I had an idea.. unsure of how practical it would be.
Lay a single piece of masking tape over the entire cockpit then either;
a) Score through at the edge of each pane and peel the resulting frame off.
or
b) Draw with a sharp pencil around the panes, peel the wholetape off and then cut each pane along where you drew to make your own set of masks. Then place each pane on the cockpit.
the kit looks like a putty monster to me.
Hi Gary, where did you get the canopy mask set from please? Is it Montex?
Great videos. Love yer work
No it was by Peewit - easy to find online at stores or auction sites and cheaper than an Eduard set.
@@garys_stuff thanks very much. I’m gonna buy me a Dornier!
@@Marigold_Tearooms my pleasure - if you do it through my Airfix store link then the channel gets a bit of the price (at no extra cost to you!)...
Gary, is there a bit of masking Airfix forgot? At the rear of the underside canopy. The ring (frame) around the gunport is masked but what about the glass area behind it?
Dunno - it isn't Airfix BTW it's an after market thing. Airfix doesn't supply masks. Apparently they send test shots of the transparencies out to various suppliers.
Gary, Sir
What Glue do you use to assemble the cockpit. You can see it when you drop in the rear gunners seat as an example
Nice work Mate.
For most of the kit it is either Revell Contacta or Tamiya Extra Thin.
@@garys_stuff
Thanks for your quick reply
The cockpit assembly looked a bit of a handful at times, but you nailed it in the end.
But thanks to Airfix for wacking in some masks for this one.
Or it would have made it (Gulp!) even more difficult
@@neilandrews2797 they didn’t include it, I had to buy it!!!
@@garys_stuff
Oh Hell
Masks should come as standard with every kit
So where did you get yours (If your allowed to plug the supplier ?)
Question re model dates, as I've not looked. Is the copyright on the box the same as on the instructions? My guess is the latter is the tooling date too?
Can't find any dates on the box or instructions! There are many things covered by copyright in the kit - the kit itself, the instruction sheet, the box art and the box design (although the latter might be a design right, I've been out of the legal loop for a while). So there could be a date for the box, a date for the instructions and a different date for the kit itself. I just go by what appears on Scalemates as they seem to track these things really well.
Hi Gary what's the best mask set I can get for this model?
I used the Eduard one - EDXC411 - but I know Peewit and Montex also sell them. Whichever you get make sure it is for the Airfix kit of the Do-17Z, there will be small differences between makes!
Hi where would I get a masking kit for my avro Lancaster .? Airfix version . Thanks
If you mean a mask for the transparent parts then there are many online stores that stock them, also many smaller outlets on auction sites. Just do a search for "paint mask airfix lancaster" and you'll get plenty!
I'm very 'brand loyal' to Airfix but I also find their clumsy sprue attachments frustrating.
I know. I'm hoping the new breed of designers are a bit more thoughtful!
Looks a bit complicated in parts Gary
Bit fiddly here and there especially with my sausage fingers!!!