Recently bought an overseas harness for a blue/red 2000 LS1F body parts swap. Checked out very much like your review. They skimped on colors but everything still ohm'd out. Kept thinking I was missing something because I wasn't finding any problems. And as a surprise it came with a fairly good manual. The units claiming to be made in the USA often aren't made here. Recently got some relays stating made in USA in the advertisement and on the cardboard and plastic hanger card. You can see through the plastic on the card that the relay is printed with made in China. So I tried my luck and so far working out. Thanks for the step by step walk-through.
Love hearing that it was good. I just ordered my red/blue as well. I’m so ready to hear this car fire. This video was hands down the best info out there for eBay harness!
Thank you! Check out my videos on the red/blue 99-02 ebay harness, the ones I have had are based on the LS1 and not the vortec like the green/blue ones are. I re-pinned mine to match the vortec prints instead of the LS1 like they come, and the engine fired up first time. I have two videos on the red/blue. One goes over the repin, and one goes over why I do the repin even if it is not needed for the engine to run. Good luck with the build!
I am in dire need of help motor in wired and fired but im having an issue with my starter keeps spinning while the truck is running sounds absolutely awful and ran threw 2 starters already in 3 day its a 1984 5.3 vortec swap sm465 transmission with ls2 pilot bearing 1050 flywheel 15inch clutch to match but my truck is unhappy with the starter any advice would be greatly appreciated 🎉@rust_hoarder_garage
Hi just reviewing your video starting around 26:50 you mentioned adding two wires for pin 30 and look 86 to pump. I got that but is the other green wire use for in pin 87 of that relay, trying to get this correct as I'm wiring my E36 LS swap. Tedco 😊
need to add battery fed 12v wire to pin 30 and 12v wire to the positive side of the pump on pin 87. pins 85/86 are prewired for the coil side with the green and black wires. This video covers it th-cam.com/video/TVUpbJ_zQE4/w-d-xo.html
I bought one of these and it was worse than awful. Led to months of headaches trying to diagnose engine issues, engine kept stumbling and back firing through the intake....ended up having to go pin by pin and plug by plug checking pin outs only to discover this thing was wired WAY out kf wack. I have a list of what was pinned where but it was insane. Only thing pinned correctly was the min to make it run...on 5 cylinders i may add but it would crank...what a nightmare. Mine was about 6 months ago and was a blue Green DBW harness. They must have made this on a friday afternoon and did it on purpose it was so badly done lol
Sorry to hear it, but I would be checking the pin outs on any aftermarket harness regardless of who made it. Couple of hours preparation will save lots of grief if you find a problem early. Mine is working fine and I purchased 3 more.
The harness you show is not what I have to be clear, yours has a different fuse box. Please let us know who you got yours from. The are NOT all the same lol, you were blessed
@@teabag402 regardless of the fuse box you have to remember this is just a wiring harness based off GM prints. Nobody is engineering or developing anything, they are just copying what GM did, regardless of who you buy it from. If the wires are in the correct locations as per GM design for that GM PCM / OS it will work.
@@rust_hoarder_garageoh I get that. The one I bought was not even close to pinned correctly so if you found a good manufacturer that wires to spec it is worth mentioning because they are not all, and some are way way off
I didnt post a link because they are all the same as far as I can tell, this one was from Ebay around $95. Any of the 03-06 green/blue ebay / amazon harnesses should be the same, but regardless I would take the time to go over the harness and double check the pinouts just in case a pin was put in the wrong location. I will have a video soon on the 99-02 red/blue harness, lots to talk about on that one, and not what you will expect.
Totally understand .. I saw so many on Amazon .. but what bothers me the most is the cheap wire they could use .. If its weather proof and oil and heat resistant wire insulation. Guess my biggest fear would be how long it would last in the vehicle until you have to replace it again. Thanks
You can run the fuel pump relay feed side to fused 12v key on or fused constant 12v, relay output to fuel pump. Watch the first start video I show the hookup. If the relay feed is key on only the pump will not run while cranking but should not be an issue as long as the rails are primed with fuel. I have mine wired to fused 12v constant similar to what GM did.
After looking at different sellers on Ebay I am sure they are all selling the same harness, most are using the same pictures. I would be checking the pins regardless, never know if one will get sent out pinned wrong. I did find one issue with the harness after the fact, the MAF connector needs a notch cut in it to fit onto the MAP sensor fully, I go over it in a later video in the build series. Thanks for watching!
Hi there. I got the same harness. And on the manual under underdash wires...it's says N/A for wire color for the Fuel pump line (12v battey power) and load(to fuel pump ).. So I have to connect a wire to the standalone harness relay 27:55 going to the fuel pump and one wire for fuel pump 12v(power) right ?
Nothing in the under dash bundle of wires is for the fuel pump. You have to add 12v batt power to one side of the fuel pump relay and connect the other side of the fuel pump relay to the hot lead of the pump. Fuel pump relay trigger wire from the pcm and ground are already there. See my first start video in the 1951 Hudson play list, it goes over installation of the wires.
@@rust_hoarder_garage yes, that's what I was asking. I know my comment was kind of confusing. Hahaha. Thank you sir. You earned a subscriber. And happy holidays!!
Hey there. Is ther anything need to be changed. In the tac module area. Im getting no response. An i have 03 ecm. With 03 tac module along with pedal. No response it shouldn't be working. Ilhelp please
I have a 2003 4.8l. DBW Vortec 4L60E If I swap into a hot rod with a manual trans, can I use the truck harness in with a connector for the 4L60E and just not use the trans connector. Also can I use the original blue/green PCM from 4.8l DBW 4L60E?
yes and yes, but you will have to tune out the transmission codes that will come up and I would want to have a working VSS as well, so the computer knows vehicle speed.
question, I bought this harness recently and when I turned on my truck , 64 c10 with 5.3 4l60e dbw, I got a couple trans codes mostly open circuit tcc/torque converter and a solenoid, when I checked the harness there was no pin 75 for the E connector on the blue/green plug, so when I ran the continuity it was on pin 76 which was for injector number 5, is that okay since im not Sure if its constant 12 or should I add a pin on 75 and jus use that wire for the trans plug.
Best thing to do with any of these harnesses is to verify every wire is in the correct location for your engine/trans configuration. 4l60e/80e are wired differently, I would check that first. Injectors have constant 12v but this harness does not wire the injectors to the same circuit as the trans, you may have one made by a different company.
After looking at multiple harnesses I am not convinced they are all the same. Check out my junkyard L33 on the stand video, I have the harness part number in that video.
I don't see that JY Performance still has an EBay listing for a passenger compartment extended wire harness for a DBC 1999-2006 red/blue connector 4L60E transmission. Anybody else see one?
They are out there, I just bought another one. There are multiple eBay sellers with them, look at the auction details and the harness manufacturer will be listed. Look for eBay seller caesarperformance, the harness comes with the injector adapters as well for under $100. Check every wire for correct location and if the tach wire is tied to the aldl 12v circuit.
I don't think it matters, I looked at multiple harnesses on Ebay and all looked the same, in fact different sellers all had the same pictures. I asked a couple questions of the seller about the harness and they had no information so I doubt they were any better than any other. Today I looked at their listings for 99-02 red/blue DBC cables and there were pictures of connectors that are not on the harness, pictures showing the PCM connectors with bolts and without, so it is really a gamble either way. Still need to do a first start to verify the harness works at all, even after all the work done ahead of time.
I wish I knew Ebay seller ID, ive orderd two now and what the picture they show and what I got are wrong. None of these sellers speak English or type it. Im getting tired of sending them back. You have exactly what I need for my build.@@rust_hoarder_garage
Sellers know nothing, they just collect the money. Have to ohm out the wire to see where it goes or if it goes nowhere. I would be checking every wire regardless IMO.
sorry impossible to troubleshoot via the net. All I can say is make sure your tune matches your TAC module, harness, pedal, and throttle body. Not all years are interchangeable .
battery connections are part of the car, not the harness. Watch this one, I show installation of the harness on the engine and start up. th-cam.com/video/cY-0iY9VjEk/w-d-xo.html
This is 100% the video I needed for the under dash wiring. Thanks
I will be going over the fuel pump wiring and under dash wiring hook up again soon on the current build if interested.
Thanks! Bought two and both worked amazing. Love the channel
Awesome! Thank you!
Which color off harness is converter lockup ? Purple and ?
Very good illustration.
Recently bought an overseas harness for a blue/red 2000 LS1F body parts swap. Checked out very much like your review. They skimped on colors but everything still ohm'd out. Kept thinking I was missing something because I wasn't finding any problems. And as a surprise it came with a fairly good manual. The units claiming to be made in the USA often aren't made here. Recently got some relays stating made in USA in the advertisement and on the cardboard and plastic hanger card. You can see through the plastic on the card that the relay is printed with made in China. So I tried my luck and so far working out. Thanks for the step by step walk-through.
Nice job taking the time to ohm out the wires, well worth the time. Good luck with your build!
Love hearing that it was good. I just ordered my red/blue as well. I’m so ready to hear this car fire. This video was hands down the best info out there for eBay harness!
Thank you! Check out my videos on the red/blue 99-02 ebay harness, the ones I have had are based on the LS1 and not the vortec like the green/blue ones are. I re-pinned mine to match the vortec prints instead of the LS1 like they come, and the engine fired up first time. I have two videos on the red/blue. One goes over the repin, and one goes over why I do the repin even if it is not needed for the engine to run. Good luck with the build!
I am in dire need of help motor in wired and fired but im having an issue with my starter keeps spinning while the truck is running sounds absolutely awful and ran threw 2 starters already in 3 day its a 1984 5.3 vortec swap sm465 transmission with ls2 pilot bearing 1050 flywheel 15inch clutch to match but my truck is unhappy with the starter any advice would be greatly appreciated 🎉@rust_hoarder_garage
I'm going with a factory harness. Can keep factory wire colors for troubleshooting later. Plus it's free.
That is how I have always done it in the past, works great!
Hi just reviewing your video starting around 26:50 you mentioned adding two wires for pin 30 and look 86 to pump. I got that but is the other green wire use for in pin 87 of that relay, trying to get this correct as I'm wiring my E36 LS swap. Tedco 😊
need to add battery fed 12v wire to pin 30 and 12v wire to the positive side of the pump on pin 87. pins 85/86 are prewired for the coil side with the green and black wires. This video covers it th-cam.com/video/TVUpbJ_zQE4/w-d-xo.html
Thank u sir very very much so. U went over e everything I have had questions about. Thank u
Glad I could help and thank you for watching!
thanks . think i saw the video you were refering too. i was going to buy from them because they scared me. im doing my first swap
If you take the time to verify the wiring there will be no surprises.
I bought one of these and it was worse than awful. Led to months of headaches trying to diagnose engine issues, engine kept stumbling and back firing through the intake....ended up having to go pin by pin and plug by plug checking pin outs only to discover this thing was wired WAY out kf wack. I have a list of what was pinned where but it was insane. Only thing pinned correctly was the min to make it run...on 5 cylinders i may add but it would crank...what a nightmare. Mine was about 6 months ago and was a blue Green DBW harness. They must have made this on a friday afternoon and did it on purpose it was so badly done lol
Sorry to hear it, but I would be checking the pin outs on any aftermarket harness regardless of who made it. Couple of hours preparation will save lots of grief if you find a problem early. Mine is working fine and I purchased 3 more.
The harness you show is not what I have to be clear, yours has a different fuse box. Please let us know who you got yours from. The are NOT all the same lol, you were blessed
@@rust_hoarder_garage I really should have checked it, had no idea how to go about it. That's the one silver lining, I do now! So that's worth a lot
@@teabag402 regardless of the fuse box you have to remember this is just a wiring harness based off GM prints. Nobody is engineering or developing anything, they are just copying what GM did, regardless of who you buy it from. If the wires are in the correct locations as per GM design for that GM PCM / OS it will work.
@@rust_hoarder_garageoh I get that. The one I bought was not even close to pinned correctly so if you found a good manufacturer that wires to spec it is worth mentioning because they are not all, and some are way way off
Great video .....Did not see a Hyperlink to where you purchased the harness ... Could you post that as well .. Thanks
I didnt post a link because they are all the same as far as I can tell, this one was from Ebay around $95. Any of the 03-06 green/blue ebay / amazon harnesses should be the same, but regardless I would take the time to go over the harness and double check the pinouts just in case a pin was put in the wrong location. I will have a video soon on the 99-02 red/blue harness, lots to talk about on that one, and not what you will expect.
Totally understand .. I saw so many on Amazon .. but what bothers me the most is the cheap wire they could use .. If its weather proof and oil and heat resistant wire insulation. Guess my biggest fear would be how long it would last in the vehicle until you have to replace it again. Thanks
You have to buy what you are comfortable with, I see no issues with the wiring so I will be using this type harness again on future builds.
Plan to order one now for my build as well .. Thank you for the video and feedback @@rust_hoarder_garage
No problem, watch my start up video to see how to wire up the fuse box, it is simple. Good luck with the project 👍
On the one side of the fuel pump relay that is keyed on? And the other goes to the pump
You can run the fuel pump relay feed side to fused 12v key on or fused constant 12v, relay output to fuel pump. Watch the first start video I show the hookup. If the relay feed is key on only the pump will not run while cranking but should not be an issue as long as the rails are primed with fuel. I have mine wired to fused 12v constant similar to what GM did.
Awesome info would love a link or seller looking for this exact harness.Thanks for taking the time to give first hand info.
After looking at different sellers on Ebay I am sure they are all selling the same harness, most are using the same pictures. I would be checking the pins regardless, never know if one will get sent out pinned wrong. I did find one issue with the harness after the fact, the MAF connector needs a notch cut in it to fit onto the MAP sensor fully, I go over it in a later video in the build series. Thanks for watching!
Hi there. I got the same harness. And on the manual under underdash wires...it's says N/A for wire color for the Fuel pump line (12v battey power) and load(to fuel pump ).. So I have to connect a wire to the standalone harness relay 27:55 going to the fuel pump and one wire for fuel pump 12v(power) right ?
Nothing in the under dash bundle of wires is for the fuel pump. You have to add 12v batt power to one side of the fuel pump relay and connect the other side of the fuel pump relay to the hot lead of the pump. Fuel pump relay trigger wire from the pcm and ground are already there. See my first start video in the 1951 Hudson play list, it goes over installation of the wires.
@@rust_hoarder_garage yes, that's what I was asking. I know my comment was kind of confusing. Hahaha. Thank you sir. You earned a subscriber. And happy holidays!!
Excellent, good luck with the build and have a great holiday! Also thank you for subscribing!
@@rust_hoarder_garage thank you!
Hey there. Is ther anything need to be changed. In the tac module area. Im getting no response. An i have 03 ecm. With 03 tac module along with pedal. No response it shouldn't be working. Ilhelp please
nothing needed to be changed in TAC module wiring, has been good on two of two harnesses so far.
In that bundle of wires, can you use that orange wire for ac signal to raise idle when on?
Probably could, I have not tried it.
I have a 2003 4.8l. DBW Vortec 4L60E If I swap into a hot rod with a manual trans, can I use the truck harness in with a connector for the 4L60E and just not use the trans connector. Also can I use the original blue/green PCM from 4.8l DBW 4L60E?
yes and yes, but you will have to tune out the transmission codes that will come up and I would want to have a working VSS as well, so the computer knows vehicle speed.
I want to put a LS Engine in my 1984 Buick Lesabre Limited?
Do it!
Hey bud stupid question but how do I hook my starter up it says fuse one and 2 are for the stater an it’s confusin
Those wires are power to the stand alone harness, starter wiring is part of the car harness.
What do u do for a trigger wire on the starter
The starter wire is part of the vehicle harness and not part of the stand alone engine/trans harness.
Thank you for this video! Bought the same for my Hudson) Will try to follow your suggestions!
question, I bought this harness recently and when I turned on my truck , 64 c10 with 5.3 4l60e dbw, I got a couple trans codes mostly open circuit tcc/torque converter and a solenoid, when I checked the harness there was no pin 75 for the E connector on the blue/green plug, so when I ran the continuity it was on pin 76 which was for injector number 5, is that okay since im not Sure if its constant 12 or should I add a pin on 75 and jus use that wire for the trans plug.
Best thing to do with any of these harnesses is to verify every wire is in the correct location for your engine/trans configuration. 4l60e/80e are wired differently, I would check that first. Injectors have constant 12v but this harness does not wire the injectors to the same circuit as the trans, you may have one made by a different company.
@@rust_hoarder_garage for sure thanks! appreciate the quick response your harness videos have been a blessing!
How do I get vss to work? Thank so
depends on transmission. See my TH400 VSS video if it is a mechanical speedometer.
Have u used a stock 03 yukon gas pedal? There's a black hose connected to mine?
Hate to cut it.
I am using an 03 Silverado non adjustable pedal, adjustable pedals have a cable drive.
One more question where is the wires for the fuel pumP
Never mind you are talking about it now
You have to wire the fuel pump relay, see the 1951 Hudson first start video.
@@rust_hoarder_garage can you use the original valley cover or do I need to buy a new one?
no clue what you are doing, I have never replaced a valley cover.
@@rust_hoarder_garage ok thank you
do i need to use any of the wires from my bulkhead harness p 100 to start my ls swap on my 1994 chevy impala ss thanks Matthew
you need the engine cranking circuit for any swap, it is not part of the swap harness
how did you go about wiring the starter exciter wire?
Starter is part of the car harness, not part of the stand alone harness.
@@rust_hoarder_garage makes sense i was obviously overthinking it
how to check out all the pins . On the part number
go to LT1swap.com to get the pinouts for what you need and then compare to whatever harness you buy.
Is there a particular seller that you recommend? I'm sure they're all made in the same factory, do you have a link to yours?
After looking at multiple harnesses I am not convinced they are all the same. Check out my junkyard L33 on the stand video, I have the harness part number in that video.
@@rust_hoarder_garage awesome will do. Thank you.
I don't see that JY Performance still has an EBay listing for a passenger compartment extended wire harness for a DBC 1999-2006 red/blue connector 4L60E transmission. Anybody else see one?
They are out there, I just bought another one. There are multiple eBay sellers with them, look at the auction details and the harness manufacturer will be listed. Look for eBay seller caesarperformance, the harness comes with the injector adapters as well for under $100.
Check every wire for correct location and if the tach wire is tied to the aldl 12v circuit.
Drive by wire power to tac module my harness does not have pink
Thought he said pink an yellow for brake switch..
You gonna drop a hint on the seller id?
I don't think it matters, I looked at multiple harnesses on Ebay and all looked the same, in fact different sellers all had the same pictures. I asked a couple questions of the seller about the harness and they had no information so I doubt they were any better than any other. Today I looked at their listings for 99-02 red/blue DBC cables and there were pictures of connectors that are not on the harness, pictures showing the PCM connectors with bolts and without, so it is really a gamble either way. Still need to do a first start to verify the harness works at all, even after all the work done ahead of time.
I wish I knew Ebay seller ID, ive orderd two now and what the picture they show and what I got are wrong. None of these sellers speak English or type it. Im getting tired of sending them back. You have exactly what I need for my build.@@rust_hoarder_garage
harness in this video was made by JY performance if that helps, multiple ebay IDs are selling it.
Is there a plug for the gas pedal
there is a harness connection to the tac module on the interior side of the harness.
my accessory wires came with 2 (two) white wires... i contact the seller and they go under a rock.
Sellers know nothing, they just collect the money. Have to ohm out the wire to see where it goes or if it goes nowhere. I would be checking every wire regardless IMO.
@@rust_hoarder_garage yeah they dont know crap. No matter what i ask him . he just says "check again"
The scanner reads 98% open throttle and its not opened.
sorry impossible to troubleshoot via the net. All I can say is make sure your tune matches your TAC module, harness, pedal, and throttle body. Not all years are interchangeable
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Where is the battery positive and negative I don’t see it
battery connections are part of the car, not the harness. Watch this one, I show installation of the harness on the engine and start up. th-cam.com/video/cY-0iY9VjEk/w-d-xo.html
@@rust_hoarder_garagethank you sir
No problem good luck with the build!
Tac module? Drive by wire box?that same thing
Yes
Can I just ignore this thing for the cable controlled throttle?
@@sergey6412 No, this harness is not for drive by cable, it is for P59 drive by wire.
We are wire harness manufacturer in China, welcome to inquire.
If you have an LS swap wiring harness that you want me to review and test email me at rusthoardergarage@gmail.com