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  • “No man is an island, Carson. Not even Thomas Barrow,”
    A soon-to-be sacked Thomas Barrow, has had a difficult time at Downton recently and has certainly felt a shift in the way his colleagues feel about him - particularly, Carson. The pressure to find work somewhere else, mixed with the rejection letters from other jobs, would be enough to make anybody feel lonely - especially when Barrow considers Downton to be his home after all these years of service. Luckily, Barrow is now okay and his closest friend, four-year-old master George, has come to his rescue.
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  • @fandomshark
    @fandomshark 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2994

    Everyone talking about Barrow (and rightly so), but can we get some appreciation for Baxter for her paying attention and trusting her instincts in this situation.

    • @silentsaturn7604
      @silentsaturn7604 2 ปีที่แล้ว +225

      I love Baxter so much, she is a quiet but very deep character.

    • @gutsfinky
      @gutsfinky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +131

      Quiet and kind and encouraging. I really like how she seems like a wholesome person. I think she was really horrified with herself at her past and strives to rectify it anyway she can.

    • @birteoldhaber513
      @birteoldhaber513 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Agree 🙏❤

    • @stephanietip
      @stephanietip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +148

      In my opinion,Baxter is the Lady Sybil of the servants hall.She is not the head of place,but nobody is gonna hurt or suffer on her watch.

    • @lizb853
      @lizb853 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Young George is such a lovely, well brought up little boy. He must be a joy to be around.

  • @r6854
    @r6854 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3057

    I know barrow can be sneaky, manipulative and downright mean, but loyalty was never his problem. He has saved babies from an evil nanny, daughters from burning fires. What the hell does a guy have to do for a little job security at Downton Abbey?

    • @vincentfiestada
      @vincentfiestada 4 ปีที่แล้ว +162

      Maybe not steal wine?

    • @chach9996
      @chach9996 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Roy Young so right 👍

    • @Stranger_Than_Fiction299
      @Stranger_Than_Fiction299 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Be born 30 years earlier, I think.

    • @MaximilianvonPinneberg
      @MaximilianvonPinneberg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +194

      I always thought he was a tortured soul. Yes, for all the sneakiness and scheming, he always stood true to those he loved and admired.

    • @glen7318
      @glen7318 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      @@vincentfiestada Or steal a dog to "find" it later... or cause trouble for fellow servants....

  • @melindoranightsilver9298
    @melindoranightsilver9298 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2983

    Thomas and George were so cute! Thomas will definately be George's Carson.

    • @rubyro2452
      @rubyro2452 4 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      Most definitely

    • @earlofwickshire5416
      @earlofwickshire5416 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      All I can say is I sincerely hope Thomas never, ever rises to the same level of respect as the landed gentry. If that occurs, I will boycott the show. One can like him, but one must never admire him.

    • @hannahb4737
      @hannahb4737 4 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      @@earlofwickshire5416 ??? You know the show is finished, yes?

    • @GoldenRose116
      @GoldenRose116 4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      @@earlofwickshire5416 well then you can boycot the show

    • @houseoftyrell1544
      @houseoftyrell1544 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@earlofwickshire5416 do you watch the downton abbey movie

  • @aigossipguy
    @aigossipguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1168

    He was not innocent in anyway, but he did many noble things for the house. Was he a jerk, a liar and a thief? Yes. He also saved Edith, loved the children, taught someone to read, and got that horrible nanny fired. Perfect? No. He was tortured by the times. I love this character.

    • @MDaggatt
      @MDaggatt ปีที่แล้ว +77

      Thomas was the most perfect loyal friend to anyone who was nice to him. He would do anything for the people who treated him well, as we see with the children and Sybil. The problem was, since everyone hated him for things he couldn't change, he never got the chance to show that side to others.

    • @pdruiz2005
      @pdruiz2005 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      You mean Thomas was a three-dimensional human being instead of a cartoon cutout pretending to be a human being, like they have on so many other shows? Who wouldathunk. LOL. This is why I liked Thomas as a character--they really fleshed him out as a real person. Real people can be jerks, liars, thieves. But they can also love, be selfless, and be heroic.

    • @lol4lol993
      @lol4lol993 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Well said Terrace Bullock and to add my own, there's a little of Thomas Barrow in most of us, that's to say, we can be both downright evil to "saintly" or noble according to the tide of the wave of time and circumstances, intentionally or unintentionally. Barrow definitely was a more realistically drawn character,and my most hated one out of all characters in the beginning but grew out to be a more interesting subject because of his many complexities.

    • @jollyquinn430
      @jollyquinn430 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Pablo Ruiz No? A character can be three-dimensional without being a jerk, a thief and a liar.
      And a lot of shows nowadays have three-dimensional characters. Even cartoons.
      Yeah, real people can be jerks, liars and thieves. But it's not necessary for a character to be a jerk, a liar or a thief to be three-dimensional.

    • @whatwhatwhatttttt
      @whatwhatwhatttttt ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jollyquinn430 no one said anything close to that.

  • @criptastical
    @criptastical 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2318

    It always intrigued me that Thomas saw Carson with a cane/stick and immediately thought of being hit. It lends an even more depressing light to his character.

    • @lonelyratgirl3688
      @lonelyratgirl3688 4 ปีที่แล้ว +638

      And in season 1, Bates shoves Thomas against the wall and he doesn't react at all; anyone else would've striked back. Safe bet to say Thomas grew up around a violent father 😥

    • @ayameisastar
      @ayameisastar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      To be fair I can’t see a wooden spoon without thinking of my mother and she never even hit me with it! Just put the fear in me, which was obviously enough

    • @SvanEsch123
      @SvanEsch123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +245

      His father was actually abusive. I believe he says this to Ms Baxter when he supposedly goes to visit bis father when he’s ill and Baxter keeps saying how much she loved him.

    • @nikkifuller8955
      @nikkifuller8955 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@earlofwickshire5416 well well, now that’s a lazy way to view humanity, but each to their own of course!

    • @alejandrovidal6441
      @alejandrovidal6441 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He tended to be quite ironic...

  • @pandakatiefominz
    @pandakatiefominz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2513

    "Hello, Mr. Barrow! Here you are, to make you feel better!"
    I'm going to cry

    • @pam8sj0611
      @pam8sj0611 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Well, I cried

    • @m.layfette6249
      @m.layfette6249 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      It took Both Kleenex and Puffs to soak up my tears. 😢😢😢😢 Especially when All of the children came to say Goodbye 😢💔😢💔😢 #DowntonHeartache

    • @earlofwickshire5416
      @earlofwickshire5416 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Usually when I have kleenex out for this show it is for less wholesome reasons

    • @chach9996
      @chach9996 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      already crying it's too cute 🥺🥺🥺❤

    • @pmyodb1
      @pmyodb1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Isn't Master George the most handsomest lil man...so sweet :)

  • @jacklynlawson
    @jacklynlawson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1729

    It was obvious Mary could identify with Thomas and no matter how sneaky and manipulative Thomas could be, he always had a heart. Especially for Master George and the girls.

    • @jehannethompson1432
      @jehannethompson1432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Mary wasn’t sneaky tho

    • @morganmiller7428
      @morganmiller7428 3 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      jehanne thompson Mary was sneaky from day 1

    • @jehannethompson1432
      @jehannethompson1432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Morgan Miller Mary did things openly apart from scandals. Edith secretly did things that was the only difference. But I couldn’t care less what you think about her bc she is my favourite character and no ones opinion will change that

    • @MrStGeorgeIllawarra
      @MrStGeorgeIllawarra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Tom and Mary are each others upstairs/downstairs doppelgangers.

    • @alyssagonzales8844
      @alyssagonzales8844 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@jehannethompson1432 chill they were both hella shady

  • @lizb853
    @lizb853 2 ปีที่แล้ว +339

    When Barrow says " at least I've got ONE friend eh? " I very nearly cried.

    • @Ashely56
      @Ashely56 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I started tearing up when Baxter starting running, even when I knew he would survive.

    • @amberanime
      @amberanime 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Especialy sad because he doesnt seem to understand that Baxter is his friend, despite it all, But he seemed to have learned this later.

  • @BigFanOfManyThings
    @BigFanOfManyThings ปีที่แล้ว +87

    A great example of a gray character. He did both good and bad things. Not the hero, not evil. Human.

  • @ineffablegabe
    @ineffablegabe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1379

    I love that Mary brought George to see Thomas. It was so kind of her.
    She truly understood his struggle with his utter loneliness and genuinely wished him nothing but the best. She really cares for the downton staff.
    She cares for Anna and Mr bates.
    She cares for barrow.
    Carson is a given.
    And remember, she was the one who made Cora apologize to Mrs Hughes.
    And Thomas just simply needed to see this cute kid in his lowest moment.
    Because, as Robert well said, "no man is an island, Carson. Not even Barrow."

    • @jehannethompson1432
      @jehannethompson1432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      She actually cared for the servants

    • @TheMimilija
      @TheMimilija 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      @@jehannethompson1432 yeah, so many people say that Edith is much better than Mary but I don't remember Edith caring for the servants at all

    • @usagi18
      @usagi18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      That's what makes her a bit likeable

    • @usagi18
      @usagi18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@TheMimilija give Edith a break, she had too much by being her family's joke butt

    • @jaciel610
      @jaciel610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When did she make Cora apologise?

  • @briancarter8490
    @briancarter8490 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1123

    It really hurt watching these times for Thomas. He was really trying to do his best at his job and help Andy, and all Carson did was look at him with disbelief. To think it took a suicide attempt and Carson's hands going wack to get standing with the family again..

    • @dergluckliche4973
      @dergluckliche4973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      Carson looked at him through eyes familiar with only a fraction of Barrow's various machinations but with years of observing his general unpleasantness.

    • @carlycrays2831
      @carlycrays2831 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      To be fair, his job was pretty useless at that point.

    • @briancarter8490
      @briancarter8490 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@carlycrays2831 True

    • @briancarter8490
      @briancarter8490 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@dergluckliche4973 That's understandable. We, the audience, have seen Thomas grow but not everyone else.

    • @earlofwickshire5416
      @earlofwickshire5416 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hopefully, he will fade into obscurity like so many commoners rightfuly did

  • @lauraschoenborn3544
    @lauraschoenborn3544 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Can we just admire how Baxter knew something was off with Barrow and raced there. And Andy who had no indication that something was wrong, took Baxter at her word and knocked down the door.

  • @sinner8684
    @sinner8684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +385

    Baxter is such an underrated sweetheart. Thomas tormented her for so long and tried so hard to make her scared of him, which she was. Nevertheless she wanted to be his friend and show him she cared about him. I'm so glad they kept the character on.

    • @Ashely56
      @Ashely56 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Her continously trying to reach out to Thomas probably also stems from Baxter knowing him since they were very young. So she always had the foundational knowledge that Thomas was more that the icy exterior he portrays

    • @kw5021
      @kw5021 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      She was a lovely, gracious character. Also, Jesus loves you.

  • @nanouklezaf4273
    @nanouklezaf4273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +231

    Baxter was the GOAT in handling all of this. After all he's done to her, she was still willing to be his friend.

    • @lizb853
      @lizb853 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Nano
      Most likely because she saw Barrows true character and soul,and saw past the mean demeanor and rude disrespect.

    • @danieljaffen
      @danieljaffen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yep!!! Remember when Barrow was doing DIY conversion therapy injections? He had reported to the police then about Baxter "possibly" knowing info about the death of Mr. Green, which exposed her past to Mrs. Hughes.
      The fact that Baxter STILL helped him after he did that (and for her to even tell him she KNEW what he did) goes to show you what a true friend Barrow has in Baxter. He better not burn bridges with her!!

    • @destinynanaakrong8584
      @destinynanaakrong8584 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yeah.....
      She saw that despite his callousness, he was a man who was in great pains and he needed love.

  • @nina1522
    @nina1522 4 ปีที่แล้ว +542

    George is such a cute little boy. He will certainly have a bond with Thomas much like Mary has with Carson.

    • @cherylannemason
      @cherylannemason 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      It is indeed easy to imagine Mary and her sisters growing up with just such a bond with Carson--or for that matter, that Robert would've had with the previous butler as well as Carson.

    • @bibliofiliafull
      @bibliofiliafull 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I think the same.

  • @shivalika6322
    @shivalika6322 4 ปีที่แล้ว +570

    I always had a soft spot for Barrow and I love his storyline. His evolution was the best imo. Love rob collier

    • @earlofwickshire5416
      @earlofwickshire5416 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah he always gave me a raging erection

    • @alyssashih2895
      @alyssashih2895 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He really has a rough time and he’s the ONLY lgbtq+

  • @12classics39
    @12classics39 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    “Hello Mr. Bawwow. Here you are to make you feel better.” ❤😭 if your heart doesn’t melt at that, then you have no heart.

  • @amandaljohnson
    @amandaljohnson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +578

    I hate that Thomas felt he need this escape. I'm glad things worked out for him in the end. And sidenote Georgie saying Barrow was just the cutest thing.

    • @RobinPM86
      @RobinPM86 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      "Mr. Bawwow" :)

    • @andrew_4747
      @andrew_4747 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Until the movie when Mary pushes him out for Carson who fails just as miserably in controlling the Royal Staff.

    • @glen7318
      @glen7318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@andrew_4747 Shows that Carson's a more popular character as they had to find some way of bringing him back as butler for the film.......

    • @charlesgong4510
      @charlesgong4510 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Don’t worry, in the new era movie, he got his true happy ending. I won’t spoil with the details considering some might have not seen it.

  • @KindredKeepsake
    @KindredKeepsake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +247

    His descent into despair was heartbreaking. Little George is such a sweetheart. He looks JUST like Matthew. His father would be so proud.

  • @callicordova4066
    @callicordova4066 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Thomas sobbing in the dark was so sad. I really admire the development of the Thomas Barrow character through the years and Rob James-Collier's portrayal of Barrow.

  • @lonelyratgirl3688
    @lonelyratgirl3688 4 ปีที่แล้ว +732

    The way Carson treated Thomas here is just...so unfair and hypocritical. He deems himself a man of moral value, yet he spent weeks bullying Thomas. He might as well as put that razor blade on Thomas' wrists in person. Thomas was showing signs of change, or at the very least a will to change, but they all disregarded it because "Thomas doesn't have a heart". Shame on them.

    • @dergluckliche4973
      @dergluckliche4973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      Frankly I'd view Barrow with at least as much skepticism. Keep in mind, too, Carson had a mandate to reduce headcount and Barrow's position was seen as superfluous. The estate, after all, was a business.

    • @carlycrays2831
      @carlycrays2831 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@dergluckliche4973 And it was about keeping the estate going for the sake of the family. Carson was definitely going to put them first before Thomas.

    • @kellharris2491
      @kellharris2491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      He he hadn't caused as much problems people would be more inclined to keep him.

    • @rowanaforrest9792
      @rowanaforrest9792 4 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      The scenes between Carson and Thomas were painful, but Carson was not being hypocritical. He viewed Thomas through the lens of his past behavior, which is what just about everyone tends to do toward everyone else. He couldn't read Thomas' mind to know that he wasn't up to any new trouble. I would not say he was bullying Thomas either, though neither was he being kind. Were Carson really a bad person, he would not have been sympathetic to Thomas afterward, but he was.

    • @rowanaforrest9792
      @rowanaforrest9792 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      We actually don't know for certain whether Carson has Parkinson's or an essential tremor, though I suspect an essential tremor since a few years later (in the movie) it hasn't noticeably worsened.
      I'm not sure, but wouldn't the next Dowager Countess be Cora, Mary's mother? Not sure how that works, but I sure don't look forward to the loss of the current Dowager Countess. She's such a great character.

  • @davejefferynf
    @davejefferynf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    In spite of Barrow's failings, he did have one bright spot: he loved those kids, and he would have flogged anybody hurting them.

  • @KoiYakultGreenTea
    @KoiYakultGreenTea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +356

    Love how Baxter knows him so well she knows he’s out of character and is worried especially knowing he’s been depressed enough to try conversion therapy 😭

  • @Ronald-ks2iy
    @Ronald-ks2iy ปีที่แล้ว +14

    When you can play a villain but still can get the audience to like and even care for you……….that’s really good acting and writing and directing!
    The English do make good television!

  • @geniehossain3738
    @geniehossain3738 3 ปีที่แล้ว +215

    Thomas has such a soft spot for the kids! And people who argue that he’s just doing it because he knows George will be master of the estate when he grows up, he was just as kind to Sybie and Marigold, and there was absolutely nothing to be gained from being nice to them. Especially Marigold considering the staff knew nothing about her true parentage.
    I think it’s because Thomas is always unkind to the other staff out of a sense of self-hatred. He needs to feel better than his peers because he was always made to feel small for who he was. The kids aren’t like that though, they have no agenda, no desire to make him feel small. And so he lets his guard down around them. It’s the most adorable thing to watch!

  • @brittanyc8157
    @brittanyc8157 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2039

    I love Barrow's connection with the Downton children! It's so cute how George just hops onto the other twin bed! He's so at ease around Thomas.
    Possible Spoilers...
    I've read that the scene in the last episode, when the kids are telling Barrow goodbye, that Sybbie's running up to Thomas and hugging his legs was unscripted, because Sybbie's actress was so fond of Rob James -Collier irl! Apparently, the kid actors genuinely loved him. That melts my heart!

    • @houseoftyrell1544
      @houseoftyrell1544 4 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      Thats so adorable, Robert indeed a lovely person in real life.

    • @earlofwickshire5416
      @earlofwickshire5416 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Such a horrendously behaved child. Fortunately typhoid is coming...

    • @curtismackland5257
      @curtismackland5257 4 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      Cute. That's maybe why Barrow was scripted to be a friend to the children. Writers often seem to take note of these off set dynamics.

    • @dreamsteddybearsmaster
      @dreamsteddybearsmaster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Haha plus Rob has a kid of his own

    • @pedanticradiator1491
      @pedanticradiator1491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@earlofwickshire5416 typhoid was pretty much non existent in the UK in the 20th century

  • @MiraTheWarlock
    @MiraTheWarlock 2 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    "Bye bye mister bawwow"
    DAMMIT MY HEART CAN'T TAKE IT!

    • @glen7318
      @glen7318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why? George is a kid, doesn't know what Barrow is like

    • @selenesspoilers6006
      @selenesspoilers6006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@glen7318 their saying it’s cute

    • @Spikastru
      @Spikastru ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I know!! So cute. 💕✨

  • @leslieaquino7363
    @leslieaquino7363 3 ปีที่แล้ว +434

    The picnic scene really broke my heart because Thomas was so genuine upon his arrival. He was genuinely trying to be a better person and being friendly by bringing the lemonade.
    Instead of all of the characters giving him major props for helping Andy, they say nothing.
    Mr. Dawdson at least acknowledges his aid yet there are no kind words directed at Barrow. Mr. Dawdson then dismisses Barrow about continuing to help Andy. He doesn't even offer Barrow at least the chace to lend him a hand according to his own teaching methods.

    • @tash_g
      @tash_g 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      I always wondered why the teacher was that harsh to Thomas!😭 He dismissed him just like that like he was on the wrong!
      Got me thinking, does he know too? And he's behaving all Carson like by asking him to keep off Andy.

    • @glen7318
      @glen7318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@tash_g No, he just felt that it wasn't a good idea to mix 2 teachers and their methods

    • @silentsaturn7604
      @silentsaturn7604 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@glen7318 I'm sure he meant well but there was no harm if Thomas would have reviewed with Andy what he learned that day.

    • @tash_g
      @tash_g 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@silentsaturn7604 exactly. Like parents do.
      And even if that's the case, he would have told him calmly or something. He just dismissed him. And you can see Thomas felt it.

    • @thebusybeanhomecafe4035
      @thebusybeanhomecafe4035 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It was so awkward I hid under a pillow. I couldn't watch 🙈

  • @beebeb3524
    @beebeb3524 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Really blown away by Baxter. So kind, so perceptive. Were it that we could all use empathy this way.

  • @Luna.3.3.3
    @Luna.3.3.3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +262

    Thomas Barrow was one of the best characters. Hate him, love him, feel sorry for him. Back and forth. It takes a really good actor to do that.~I think it's time to binge watch Downton during the isolation!!

    • @m.layfette6249
      @m.layfette6249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I've never Stopped binge watching. The shutdown just gave me More freetime. 😎 #FortheLoveofDownton

    • @coryspang7548
      @coryspang7548 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I started binge-watching Downton Abbey recently, as I never had an opportunity to watch it when it first came out. I like Thomas and the actor who played him in the show. Really kept me on my feet so far for the first 4 seasons. Will continue to work on them to see what happens to him thereafter.

  • @beckyc8104
    @beckyc8104 3 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    Great attention to detail that you can see Barrow's gunshot wound on his hand. Normally its the type of thing you imagine would be forgotten about and leave a continuity error. So props for the makeup team!

    • @danieljaffen
      @danieljaffen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      YES!!!! LOVED how they kept his wounded hand throughout the ENTIRE series AND the movie!!!

  • @ChristinWilsey
    @ChristinWilsey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    I love Barrow's relationship with the children of Downton. He may have his faults, but deep down I think he's a good man.

    • @whitneydavis7443
      @whitneydavis7443 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      His personality is a product of his circumstances.

    • @billhosko7723
      @billhosko7723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@whitneydavis7443 It's the product OF THE writers.

  • @mcsinger7719
    @mcsinger7719 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I cried and cried so hard when that little voice said, "To make you feel better."

  • @jwpaulson2360
    @jwpaulson2360 4 ปีที่แล้ว +179

    Even more than Baxter's affection for Molesly, her support for Barrow warms my heart.

    • @danieljaffen
      @danieljaffen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I want Baxter and Mosley to get together!!! They're so sweet to each other and I love how Mosley gets all googly-eyed and timid when he's talking to Baxter. So sweet ❤️

  • @thebluedoorstep647
    @thebluedoorstep647 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Baxter was kind to everyone with words of encouragement and comfort. She saved Thomas's life because of her caring nature.

  • @josephcarlbreil5380
    @josephcarlbreil5380 4 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Robert James-Collier is excellent in his role as Thomas Barrow. Kudos to this fine actor.

  • @nazgullord3198
    @nazgullord3198 4 ปีที่แล้ว +474

    This storyline, heartbreaking as it was, really touched my heart more than any other, and cemented my already deep love for Barrow. Was severly depressed at the time when the last season of Downton was airing, and it helped me to conect with a character who was going through something very similar as I was. The fact that he was saved and that he saw a light at the end of the tunnel really helped me too.
    Thank you Downton Abbey, and than you Barrow!! 💖

    • @annec6200
      @annec6200 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      The creators of that show, the producers of a movie or an author of a book never really knows if it will touch or reach someone.
      I was very moved to read your comment right now.
      I enjoyed that storyline as well. I really like his friendship with Master George. He is so sweet with him. It brought out his owns child like qualities.
      Master George really likes him and a child’s instinct never fails.

    • @nazgullord3198
      @nazgullord3198 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@annec6200 Indeed! It warms my heart the idea that he will be to Master George what Carson was to Mary.

    • @annec6200
      @annec6200 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nazgul Lord, it’s a great idea for a future movie sequel when Mr Barrow is the butler to an adult Lord George Grantham! 😉
      Oh boy, and Lady Mary as the Dowager Countess of GranthamDowager!!!😂

    • @earlofwickshire5416
      @earlofwickshire5416 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m just glad that he’ll never be amongst the landed gentry

    • @PABWECG
      @PABWECG 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thanks for your comment. Stories can really be healing, can't they? I have found the same to be true in difficult times.

  • @middleearthians5661
    @middleearthians5661 4 ปีที่แล้ว +180

    the way Thomas was treated throughout the series always broke my heart, yes I know he caused it much of the time but its still hard to watch

  • @metro121482
    @metro121482 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I know the video is about Thomas, but seeing mini-Matthew come visit Thomas makes me both so happy and so sad. They really did find the perfect little boy to cast in the part!

  • @GoldenRose116
    @GoldenRose116 4 ปีที่แล้ว +524

    Season 6 really made Carson unlikable.. in earlier season he could be also an unfair snob, but in season 6 he was pretty much awful to anyone that wasn't a Crawley.

    • @alessandram9367
      @alessandram9367 4 ปีที่แล้ว +116

      Agreed, he also was not so kind to Mrs. Hughes after they got married.

    • @kayleighludlow9912
      @kayleighludlow9912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      A man that was probably born while victoria was still queen so hes going to have that stiff upperlip. Especially for head of staff in a big house. All men were like it because they were bought up to show no emotion and to be harsh. Essentially carson is the lord granthem of the servents

    • @user-bf7bp2ox5z
      @user-bf7bp2ox5z 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @Kayleigh Ludlow still he's still bad

    • @jaciel610
      @jaciel610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@user-bf7bp2ox5z no. Dont judge a character by modern standars, he had to be hard, by his age, time period, job... and yes he didn't things to change with the modern time but he is a good person

    • @andrew_4747
      @andrew_4747 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@jaciel610 Decency is still expected regardless of the era. Carson was a stage actor putting on airs. As the Page of the Backstairs told him in the movie: "You are a retired servant in a minor provincial house, serving an undistinguished family."
      Carson looked down on Ethel as well. Thought it was his place to say Sybil shouldn't cook. He acted like a Lord.

  • @Knappa22
    @Knappa22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    The way she tears her petticoat to make a tourniquet - what a hero!

    • @qdllc
      @qdllc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A bandage would do the job.

    • @esgib1385
      @esgib1385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@qdllc she probably didn’t have a bandage on hand when she ran all the way back to the house to kick down a door and save a mans life, time is of the essence in those moments

    • @danieljaffen
      @danieljaffen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@esgib1385 Exactly 💯 👏🏿 🙌🏾
      And I agree with you on her using (correction: RIPPING) her petticoat to use as a tourniquet. Baxter is a BAAAWWWWWWWSE.

    • @esgib1385
      @esgib1385 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danieljaffen absolutely she’s a queen

  • @julesmcc5477
    @julesmcc5477 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    That was one of the sweetest moments of the whole series when little master George brought him that orange! He’s very much the Carson to his favourite little crawley!! Him nodding his head agreeing that they’re friends, Matthew little lookalike is so cute, great job from them both! 🍊❤️

  • @luxusken05
    @luxusken05 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I cried so hard seeing him crying and him motionless in the tub. 😭
    It's hits different when it's Thomas.

  • @rosierennie5867
    @rosierennie5867 4 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    What I admire is they didnt taint Master George's admiration of Thomas, they probably told him he has the flu or a cold so she doesn't ruin the image little George has of his friend. Thomas and George are just a later version of Mary and Carson - I love that

    • @glen7318
      @glen7318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      are they really likely to tell a 5 year old that someone's tried to kill himself?

    • @rosierennie5867
      @rosierennie5867 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@glen7318 You dont know much about Victorian and Edwardian up to Pre WW2 times do you?
      Children weren't allowed to be children - They had to be little adults. Children being children and playing and not worrying about things is a relatively new concept. If it was the real world and not a show then yeah they would have definitely told little George that Barrow almost died.

    • @glen7318
      @glen7318 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rosierennie5867 yes I do. Consider that Thomas tried to kill himself I doubt if they were going to tell a small child. Suicide itself was a crime

  • @dandelion1627
    @dandelion1627 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Thomas Barrow, to me is most interesting and best character in the show. He endured the worst and built walls to protect himself most of his life, yet the light and fire in him never cease glowing, not even all the darkness engulfing him everywhere he went.

  • @Bzrking_hound
    @Bzrking_hound 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Thomas just wants to be accepted. Fantastic acting by Rob James Collier, he really brings Thomas to life and he has made Thomas become a fan favorite through the seasons 😊

  • @c00mgoblin
    @c00mgoblin ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Thomas is definitely one of the most complex characters of recent media. ❤

  • @dianagolden6071
    @dianagolden6071 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    It's no wonder he tried to end his life. EVERYONE pushed him aside and made him feel insignificant. His tough guy act was because of it. 🤬

  • @littleraeofsunshine
    @littleraeofsunshine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +722

    Honestly, the show would have been so dull without Tom and Thomas. They were some of the only characters who actually had growth and change. The family just got boring and predictable.

    • @holohulolo
      @holohulolo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      Edith had growth too. Daisy as well. Mosley too. Mary had some growth and development when she was with mathew, but she's not that interesting.

    • @danielac8497
      @danielac8497 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Mary also grew wiser with the time.

    • @mikeconnolly6845
      @mikeconnolly6845 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Along with Anna & Bates who probably at times were the most unpredictable characters in my opinion

    • @earlofwickshire5416
      @earlofwickshire5416 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was there incest in that noble family?

    • @Animestoryclip
      @Animestoryclip 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@earlofwickshire5416 i just watch this movie/film recently, and i don't know exactly how the story is going. but i don't think there is, look at how tom never kissed sybil and the first time they're kissing after they decided to get married, yet tom still didn't sit on the bed with sybil instead he sat on a chair next to the bed. when mary and edith caught them up in the room. i think they haven't done that deed
      but i don't know if there is other story that tells like what you said. please don't judge me ✌️

  • @missygraceful
    @missygraceful 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Barrow character is so complex, deep, victim of this time. I love this character and the actor played him beautifully

  • @hannaletzring4517
    @hannaletzring4517 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I love scenes where George is in them, he's so cute! And he reminds me of Matthew :)

  • @ericofthewest24
    @ericofthewest24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Thomas's story was one of my favorite recollections of the last season. For years, he was manipulative, deceptive, and utterly selfish to the core but in the last season, he desperately tries to mend his bitterness with the staff and change his ways. Him falling into complete despair because no one could find it in their hearts to trust him was too painful to watch 😖😣 All he wanted was to stay at Downtown with the people he cared about.

  • @OleandyrTheGreatDragonGod
    @OleandyrTheGreatDragonGod 4 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    Oh my gosh, young master George is SOOOOO adorable! "Hewwo Mr. Bawwow". XD

  • @Youwh00
    @Youwh00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Of all the characters, my heart goes out to Mr. Barrow. Not different by his own design, he tried in every way to overcome negative opinions and differences that surround him by putting on a tough exterior. His wickedness was all a part to ensure a place for himself. I think that Rob James does a fantastic job at playing this character - every emotion highlighting a tough yet emotionally hurt man. These scenes were the especially tough ones to watch.

  • @mamiedubingo
    @mamiedubingo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I don't have the words to describe Thomas. But I love him so much...

  • @CoolsBreeze
    @CoolsBreeze 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    It's so cute how Barrow is so kind with George and how George cares about Barrow.

  • @carlycrays2831
    @carlycrays2831 4 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Baxter is just my favorite character on the show!

    • @nina1522
      @nina1522 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      She has such a good heart.

    • @angelabolton4478
      @angelabolton4478 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Lovely, lovely person.

    • @cherylannemason
      @cherylannemason 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      For as rotten as Thomas was towards her when she first arrived, she proved herself on at least two occasions to be a genuine friend.

    • @earlofwickshire5416
      @earlofwickshire5416 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Being a good person is highly overrated

    • @plaguerat7015
      @plaguerat7015 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Earl of Wickshire no, it’s pretty underrated I would say

  • @parisas5619
    @parisas5619 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    maybe thomas is not a good person first but after a while he could find the good side of his personality and his heart and act on that .I really like him and admire him

  • @alisaoikarinen489
    @alisaoikarinen489 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    i loved the scene where he was asked to be the butler by robert he seemed so happy to be genuinly asked to come back considering how he left feeling not needed and unwanted.

  • @Sihame07
    @Sihame07 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I would love to watch a little spin-off series about Barrow, he's such a complex character and the actor who plays him did a wonderful job !

  • @aperson22222
    @aperson22222 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Six months ago today a good friend of mine took his life under not-dissimilar circumstances. I felt closer to him as I watched this.

  • @noelmcmahon3407
    @noelmcmahon3407 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I love Thomas he needs a real big hug

  • @nab05
    @nab05 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's super sad because instead of saying he was helping Andrew he let himself be accused of things just so no one would know that Andrew can't read

  • @Luboman411
    @Luboman411 4 ปีที่แล้ว +205

    Oh, wow, that suicide attempt shocked me! I've always wondered why Thomas never fled for London. That's what LGBTQ people in the rural areas have done since time immemorial--flee for the relative safety of the large city. it's just much easier. You can find romantic relationships in the city, and the city provides much-needed anonymity. Thomas must've known this. Why he never left for the sake of his mental health, and rid himself of his loneliness, is beyond me. Probably fear of the unknown.

    • @kaik7366
      @kaik7366 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      fear of not having a job, being able to pay for anything, and in general the safety of a solid position outweighed the rest of it.

    • @cherylannemason
      @cherylannemason 4 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      He did, as well, once say that Downton was the one place he'd ever found any measure of happiness--and certainly Anna and Miss Baxter, as well as Lady Sybil, showed him a certain level of compassion and acceptance. Not things to ignore, and quite frankly, he was the sort of character who might've had a hard time making true friends anywhere.

    • @Luboman411
      @Luboman411 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Well, the job situation could've been sorted out by looking for a comparable position as a valet/butler/under-butler while he still had his position at Downton. It's not like London is short on huge mansions filled with rich people in need of a good, handsome English butler/valet. So lack of job opportunities was not it. As for lack of savings--he could've saved up his earnings over a few years. I will credit Thomas' inability to make true friends. Thomas' knee-jerk need to belittle and condescend to others was always his true weakness, and in a big city where he wouldn't know anyone those personality traits could've ended in Thomas' permanent loneliness. There's also just the comfort factor--one just gets nice and settled in a place, and totally reluctant to leave it all behind.

    • @piotrmalewski8178
      @piotrmalewski8178 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Luboman411 Yes, Thomas was a jerk. He could feel relatively safe at Downton because he knew the people and knew how to get by around them. He always had good parts in him, but he actually really changed only after the suicide attempt, when he learned that people really care about him, inspite of all wrong things he's done. It's also believable in terms of modern knowledge- people change under extreme circuimstances.

    • @lilyl3470
      @lilyl3470 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      I think the movie partially answers your question, because when Thomas discovers the secret gay bar, he's amazed and says he's never seen anything like it before.
      It's likely he's not aware of the lgbtq community already existing (although secretly) at the time and didn't have any reason to think London would be different (no matter his job being considered a "good position" for his social class, he is still a provincial man and you knew these sort of circles if someone introduced you to it or if you looked hard enough, which he obviously never did).

  • @jamesbarlow4955
    @jamesbarlow4955 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    It’s so sad to see Tom always trying to reach out for even just a friend. All he wants is love and affection. I’m glad he finds it in the last movie. I just hope we don’t get a third movie where it turn out it all went sour like the man from the first movie.

  • @1Sparkyny
    @1Sparkyny 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Rob James -Collier’s character arch as Barrow was my favorite part of the series.. beautifully played..

  • @mariafox9226
    @mariafox9226 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Little George is so sweet.

  • @ReadmanJ
    @ReadmanJ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Crazy how my Journey with Barrow went, Season 1 I utterly despised him and thought he was a morally bankrupt, conniving piece of garbage, and here I am in the Final Season and I genuinly empathize with him and want everything to turn out good. Truly a remarkable Character Arc

    • @danieljaffen
      @danieljaffen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree. Really great character development. 👏🏿

  • @manolitarosales4242
    @manolitarosales4242 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The meeting of Master George Crawley and Thomas Barrow shows that Master Georgie's upbringing is really aristocratic. How he says his line is clearly very aristocratic. Georgie is really gentle, nice, cute, .sweet and beautiful and so behaved. I love Georgie absolutely especially when he sits quietly in twin bed without being told by her mom.

  • @Luboman411
    @Luboman411 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    At 4:17. I haven't seen beyond the 2nd season of Downton Abbey. I'm also a teacher. They did a good job portraying Andrew as a dyslexic. As a trained educator you can tell immediately that that is the problem with Andrew. It seems the gentleman with the glasses is also a trained teacher since he could see it too, though I was sad that Thomas was pushed out of the way so quickly. Teaching Andrew probably gave Thomas a good boost of badly-needed self esteem. I know it does for me. It's lovely when you teach people and they learn, they genuinely learn, under your tutelage. And not to toot my own horn, but I know precisely how to answer that exam question that has Daisy all nervous--I can talk A LOT about the Russo-Turkish relationship during the reign of Czar Nicholas I in the 1840s and 1850s, why the Czar called Turkey "the sick man of Europe," and can very quickly fill in the information I don't know through relevant research. :D

    • @plaguerat7015
      @plaguerat7015 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Andrew may or not have been a dyslexic, but he said himself it was because he didn’t pay attention in school

    • @Luboman411
      @Luboman411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Eleanor Clark Short answer--Czar Nicholas I and all the other Russian Czars have long wanted the reconquest of Istanbul to re-establish it as the Christian city of Constantinople. That is where the Orthodox Church started, so it's the holiest city in that sect of Christianity, like Rome is for Catholicism. Czar Nicholas I, in his bid to take the city, started the Crimean War in the early 1850s with a declining Ottoman Empire, dubbing it "the sick man of Europe." The Crimean War was a disaster for the Russians--the British and the French did not want the Russians to gain complete control of Istanbul because then it would mean Russian dominance of the Mediterranean, which the UK and France wanted for themselves. So they fought on the side of the Ottomans, and defeated Russia on Russian soil. This was very humiliating for Russia, for it showed how backward the nation had become in comparison to the great powers of the West. Thus, Czar Nicholas I suffered a pretty bad setback for Russian foreign policy for underestimating the staying power of the Ottoman Empire. :D

    • @Luboman411
      @Luboman411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@plaguerat7015 Dyslexia discourages children from learning. So sufferers tend to not pay attention because why try hard when even trying hard means certain failure in reading-heavy classes (which is practically all classes except for math)? It's a terrible disorder, dyslexia, because it cultivates an inferiority complex in sufferers that is very hard to lift later on.

    • @plaguerat7015
      @plaguerat7015 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Luboman411 oh oof

  • @ksyvi
    @ksyvi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    I am disappointed that they kick Thomas out from house in the movie, and bring Carson back on his place. Thomas definitely deserve to be a butler, but they gave him only love story. It is unfair

    • @SuperScarface83
      @SuperScarface83 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      He certainly got disrespected with the arrival of the Royal family, but at least his love story was arguably the most pleasant human interaction he had ever had. He seemed reasonably happy by the end.

    • @melindoranightsilver9298
      @melindoranightsilver9298 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It was an excuse to have Carson in the film. Not that they did much with him but they felt he HAD to be there. I'm glad he was, but I did understand why Barrow was upset. Barrow assumed correctly that the Royal family's staff had their own way of doing things and would want them done as such. In the real world, Barrow would have been right. However, in the film the house/kitchen staff needed something to do so there was a bit of a coup.

    • @Setana815
      @Setana815 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Love story is the best thing that ever happened to him. It was worth it.

    • @danieljaffen
      @danieljaffen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@melindoranightsilver9298 I agree 100%. Barrow already knew what he was doing as far as table settings were concerned. If anything, Mary (who, despite being my other favorite character on this show, can be rather intimidating at times hahaha 😆) was having him on edge.

  • @LoKom12
    @LoKom12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Yes, Thomas did some horrible things throughout his years at downton. But here he's finally willing to change but no one's wanting to accept it. Him attempting suicide was a sad moment. Such a good complex character

  • @katebarton1018
    @katebarton1018 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Thomas has to be one of the top, if not the best character I’ve ever come across. He’s not my favorite character in the world, though he is my favorite downtown character, he’s not nice or very funny (though he is a wonderfully snarky boi which I love). But his character development is extraordinary, he goes from basically the villain to the poor lost soul who tries to be good and is easy to sympathize with. It also helps that rob James-collier plays him perfectly. I love Thomas so much!

  • @saracodd3948
    @saracodd3948 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Definitely one of my favorite characters in the series. He was so complex and had a lot of depth.

  • @Bluey306
    @Bluey306 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    "hewwo mister bawwow!" i'm dying of cute.

  • @CoolsBreeze
    @CoolsBreeze 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    He gave him an orange for and then climbed on the bed to sit there. That's the cutest thing I've ever seen on tv.

    • @glen7318
      @glen7318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wow yes that is super cute

  • @m.layfette6249
    @m.layfette6249 4 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    Carson's treatment of Thomas is beyond Shameful and Disgraceful. Barrow has served the family Faithfully for over a decade. Injured during the War and served as a medical staff at the local hospital once he was discharged. Now when he's trying to hide Andrew's shame and embarrassment for Not knowing how to read. Everyone is Still holding to a past transgression and won't let it go. "Let he who is without Sin cast the first stone."

    • @happybkwrm
      @happybkwrm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      He got Baxter hired so he could basically blackmail her. He sabotaged Bates several times to try and get him sacked. He lied to the duke he had a past affair with to try and get Mary to wed the man, then tried to blackmail the duke. He used Daisy's crush on him to hurt William. When he realized he was about to get fired for theft (he tried to blame it on Bates) he joined the army as a medic, to avoid combat. I get that he has gone through a lot, but he also hurt a LOT of people. It makes it hard for people to trust him when he tries to do the right thing.

    • @whyisthisdifferentnow
      @whyisthisdifferentnow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      1. that quote is ALWAYS taken out of context.
      2. let's not forget the time he tried to kiss a footman, while asleep. sexual assault is sexual assault.

    • @dergluckliche4973
      @dergluckliche4973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@happybkwrm Agreed. Length of service means little when weighed against the number of unpleasant plots and schemes he instigated and years' worth of general bad attitude. He was lucky to make it this far.

    • @skylark7921
      @skylark7921 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A P and tell me, pray - what is the correct context? As I remember, the Pharisees wanted to stone a woman who had sinned (I forget specifically, adultery? Prostitution?) and Jesus said let he who has not sinned throw the first stone. Because you have no right to be cruel to someone for past transgressions unless you yourself are flawless

    • @whyisthisdifferentnow
      @whyisthisdifferentnow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Skylark 7 People love to quote that one part, but never the rest, which is Jesus basically telling her to not do it again. Obviously, it doesn’t mean go around and be an ass to people who’ve done wrong, but it also shouldn’t be used to stop someone from making legitimate criticism and calling someone out about their BS.

  • @catcauldron217
    @catcauldron217 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh! The genius of
    Mr. Fellowes. 🎶👏🎶👏🎶

  • @stahppls2293
    @stahppls2293 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This was a terrible time for Barrow, he was depressed about his job security and earnestly trying to make friends but being pushed away

  • @loliver9660
    @loliver9660 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Little George is so precious I can't!!😍😍

    • @maryannlockwood7806
      @maryannlockwood7806 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      L Oliver and I love how they found a little boy that looks like the spitting image of Dan Stevens who played Matthew Crawley!🧒🏼

    • @loliver9660
      @loliver9660 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@maryannlockwood7806 Actually, they found three! Two out of three triplets played George, can you believe that?! 😍 That had to be so much fun!

  • @markregiec9223
    @markregiec9223 4 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    I like the Carson and Lord Grantham, however they were very careless toward the staff at Downton. It showed how indifferent they can be towards employees. Also how ungrateful Lord Grantham was toward Thomas Barrow. He saved his daughter Edith from a fire and he helped fight the fire to save the house. Lets not forget that all the years that Thomas Barrow fetched and served the family. Then Lord Grantham attitude we do not need him let him go.

    • @happybkwrm
      @happybkwrm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      He also brought a felon (Baxter) into the house without telling her employer at least partley because he enjoyed having power over her. He was pubically spiteful to Gwen when she showed up with her husband. I think everyone was just tired of giving him 2nd, 3rd, 4th chances, because he kept doing the same thing over and over. It's not like he was turned out onto the streets.
      Barrow himself has admitted he's his own worst enemy.

    • @rowanaforrest9792
      @rowanaforrest9792 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You both say true things. Most of the characters on Downton have said and/or done some pretty rotten things at least once, many of them a lot more than once, but they all have also shown redeeming qualities. Even the sly Miss O'Brien from the earlier seasons wasn't 100% bad (just maybe mostly).

    • @alessandram9367
      @alessandram9367 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      YES!!!

    • @piotrmalewski8178
      @piotrmalewski8178 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You're forgetting how much damage Barrow has done to the family and to Bates (Lord's friend too), and Lord Grantham was aware of a big part of that. He was always very kind and generous towards his staff. As a matter of fact, the welfare of his tennants and servants seemed to be the only thing he ever cared for, and he went into battle with Matthiew and Mary just to protect his people.

    • @glen7318
      @glen7318 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Barrow fetched and carried because it was his job...In the 1920s there wasn't so much money around, and most upper class families had to cut back and not live so grandly, so they let some of their staff go...They could not afford to live in the same style as before and Thomas had shown himself so many times to be spiteful, untruthful and a trouble maker.. he was hardly likely to be the one that they would try and hold onto...

  • @usagi18
    @usagi18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    He went from being despicable to my favorite character

  • @whaaat3632
    @whaaat3632 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thomas' arc demonstrates how well the show was written: we all have faults and virtues. Thomas generally had a nasty character but could be kind and loyal. Carson was mostly kind but had moments of meaness (especially to Thomas and Mosley).

  • @sniperxauthor6221
    @sniperxauthor6221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I legit just wanna give this man a hug

  • @gabrielalopetegui
    @gabrielalopetegui 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I loved this character and the “ human revolution” that he did…one of the most complex characters…and I ended up adoring Thomas Barrow ❤!

  • @FKATheo
    @FKATheo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This had me tearing up since it was very unexpected but what got me the most was Master George giving him a visit.

  • @ellie91059
    @ellie91059 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Thomas will forever remain my favourite

  • @saiyanknight8243
    @saiyanknight8243 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Mr. Carson confronted Thomas about his “understanding” with Andy was because of Mrs. Patmore saw him leaving Thomas’ room without knowing that they were just doing studies (teaching Andy to read). I was so annoyed by Mrs. Patmore she maybe worried but she’s causing trouble for Thomas. She didn’t even ask them about it, simply telling Mr Carson. That I think was the last straw for Thomas and the reason behind his failed su*cide attempt.

    • @maxthecat14
      @maxthecat14 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That and Carson calling him foul and saying he should be horsewhipped. That was just being deliberately cruel. i never quite forgave Carson for that.

  • @princessalexandra1613
    @princessalexandra1613 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When little master visits Thomas, first time moves me to tears. Served the family for so long and has to be kicked out!

  • @carmenmonoxide7459
    @carmenmonoxide7459 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Master George with his tiny slight of hand tricks passed off an orange from his right hand to his left. Barrow seemed so pleased that he didn't mention it. 😉😆

  • @SvanEsch123
    @SvanEsch123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thomas was such a great character, I found his scenes always a joy to watch. Especially after O’Brien left, the only person in the house who considered him a friend. And then when the secret about his sexuality came out I felt for him, I understand what he went through and I know how that makes you put up shields and distrusting of other people. I’m glad for his development in the last season and I am so happy he got to stay. I hope he and George will have the same relationship as Mary and Carson have!

  • @tseamus8288
    @tseamus8288 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    These scenes i just wanted to break trough my screen and hug Mr. Barrow

  • @annavt1792
    @annavt1792 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    thomas is by far one of the most interesting characters. he’s not hateable.

  • @Mistygrey17
    @Mistygrey17 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thomas is so complex but I love it, I mean he’s such a real and relatable character

  • @GillianMcGeorge-Cruikshank
    @GillianMcGeorge-Cruikshank 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This one made me cry so.

  • @danielac8497
    @danielac8497 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love his character, he's just not flat as others are; he evolves with the time.

  • @holly.carlton
    @holly.carlton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Carson became quite unlikable by the end of the series because of the way he treated Thomas. he was what caused him to attempt suicide, telling him to find a new job, being horrible about his sexuality and just being overall rude to him. i know that Thomas was not always nice but he was showing some signs of change and vulnerability. that whole 'Thomas doesn't have a heart' was horrible.
    Thomas was one of my favourite character because of his hidden sexuality (and his evilness haha) and i was so upset about his whole suicide story line and even more that CARSON DIDN'T EVEN APOLOGIZE. Carson drove him to that place. thank god for master George always making him feel better haha.

    • @lexicornix7530
      @lexicornix7530 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He took his word that nothing more than a kiss had happened with Jimmy, so he should believe him now as well. If he doesn't believe him now anyway, what's the point in asking?
      When he heard that Jimmy insisted on Thomas leaving without a reference, the pain in his voice is obvious.

  • @mv21295
    @mv21295 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I felt like family has been rather disloyal to Barrow at the end. I mean, we know he has worked for them prior to April, 1912 (he was even a first footman and he was even vallet-to-be). Yes, he stole some wine in 1914. But, returned to the household and served them faithfully between 1918 and 1925, when Robert decided to sack him. The worst is, that it was difficult to find a position for a man like Barrow at the time. And no one actually even lifted a finger to help him. No one even considered sacking Andy and demoting Barrow to the position of footman, Robert and Carson just came to conclusion that someone who, by all accounts, has been a hard and capable worker should be the one to let go. And on top of all of that, Carson didn't even notice that Thomas is hurting and may do the worst. At the end, I do wish we could see Downton through XX century, perhaps during WWII and the connection Thomas would have with George and Sybil, much like the one Mary has with Carson.

  • @FriskDreemurrOfBiggCityPort
    @FriskDreemurrOfBiggCityPort 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    George is such an angel.

  • @WhatSoEverThingsAreLovely
    @WhatSoEverThingsAreLovely 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    This is how a lot of people are still treated nowadays.....as if they have no feelings and can just take all the nastiness that is thrown at them & theirs!! "No person is an island"....we would all do well to remember that!!