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- I would have bet money I had at least one broken clutch return spring, because the chain was turning like it was hooked directly to the crankshaft. The drum was dirty with a hard packed ring of crust in it which was causing the chain not to stop at idle. It still barely creeps forward at idle, I'll talk to the Stihl dealer about this as I don't know just how strong the springs are when new.
At the end I show an Echo 310 chainsaw and how good it is at stopping the chain at idle.
I'm going to talk to the Echo dealer and see if I can get more information on how Echo accomplishes this so well.
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Videos like this one are what TH-cam is for. Thanks so much for offering your knowledge here for free.
Glad it was helpful!
I've had my chain rotating during idle and the dealer said I needed to adjust the low idle. Made no difference. After watching your video, I went out to the garage and in 5 minutes I removed and cleaned the drum. Works like new. Thanks.
I hear you! Just about everyone always thinks it's a low idle adjustment, but that drum is in a perfect place to catch a little fine powdered saw dust combined with some good old chain oil and then trouble starts.
I'm glad you took care of her!
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Listen my friend ,been trying to get my034AV idling right for a week. Had the same situation as the video. Had my saw since 88, cut thousands of cords and lots of timber and never encountered this problem. Thanks, your a f====g genius !
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for this video. I’ve been trying to fiddle with the carby to make adjustments, ended up replacing the carburettor yet I still was having the same problem as you. I removed the chain sprocket cover and two of the three springs were missing. All fixed now. Cheers
Great points, cleaned by Farm Boss up just like you pointed out. Cleaned the drum and turned down the idle… chain no stays idle
Glad it helped!
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Thanks for sharing - had the same problem, and same solution. Greatly appreciated.
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Interesting. My echo cs310 is doing what your stihl was doing. I just ordered a new sprocket but am going to take mine apart and investigate. Thanks for the vid and sharing knowledge!
I tried this on an used Poulan I got. The reason mine wasn't working is because the plastic housing partially melted due to oil and sawdust. Great video!
Sorry to hear that!
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The same problem applies to the chain saw "Stihl MS180".
Thank you for your knowledge...
Thank you very much...
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Thank you for the video. I have a Stihl MS290 that would run the chain even with no throttle. Looked at springs and everything looked good. Noticed some crud in the inside of the clutch drum so I cleaned that. Put back together and now the chain does not run without the throttle. Good stuff👍
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Have this on both my MS170 and MS 391 time to strip them down and given them a good clean. Cheers for the video
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Happened to my ms170 just now. Did you get it fixed? If so, how?
@@elimontes.914 Same as the video, took off the clutch housing, this is where I had the most gunk, sprayed it with some degreaser that I use on my mountain bike good wipe down, did not have to remove the clutch, but if it still grabbing I'd take the clutch off and full clean.
This was what exactly what was wrong with my 025 saw. This video was a blessing. Thank you.
Glad it helped!
Thank you! My chainsaw is back to normal.
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Thanks for the video. My 251 started doing this a few hours ago
Hi D and thanks for watching!
It could be a few different things causing your problems.
I hope you get her fixed!
Work safe!
Good job dude, I own one doing same thing, chain keef running when idle
Be careful!
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Thanks for this video. Solved my chain spinning issue
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Great video, fixed my Woodboss. Exactly the same problem.
Thanks for watching and glad it helped!
Thanks for the video! Cleaned my drum and now it’s good to go.
Glad to help!
I have the same problem with my echo chain saw as you had with sthil but I will try what you did. Thanks and God Bless
Good luck!
You make everything look so easy but for me it's never that easy lol thanks for the video
You’re welcome 😊
PM TIPS ,check this on your saw Sounds like an air leak. Probably from impulse line or intake boot
Thanks WTB, I'll be looking into that. I put new fuel lines on it but the intake boot is original. At 22 years old, she could be getting a little dried out:-!
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@@pmtips4482 your welcome buddy I was having same thing happen to my saw .026 pro grade. I found that to be the problem .its fixed .now at an idle the chain not move
Well now I’m going to check that! Thanks
Good luck!
I just started a friends saw (borrowed) and it revved up really high, white smoke immediately, and the chain ran off really fast with no throttle. So i turned it off immediately.
Anyone any ideas?
Thank you very much good sir.
You are most welcome!
The springs can get weak enough to make the chain spin.
Thanks for the info, I'm getting a spare set to have on hand.
Bingo. Thanks a lot!
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Great video, thanks for posting!
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Nice job.
Thanks for the visit!
Make sure your exhaust bolts are tight, mind was loose made the engine run higher idle.
Will do!
Thanks for the tip!
My chain saw is not starting but when accerlate with kicking it then it got start and when accelration released it get off. Any solution for this???
Awesome video!!
Thanks for watching!
Cool ideas for maintenance and performance. Nice camera angles too. Wondering....isn’t there an adjustment screw right under the H & L fuel screws (little hole in the plastic buy the handle) that adjusts the chain to stop on yours? I have a Stihl MS 310 and it adjusts that way.
Hi J, yes there is the LA adjustment (an idle speed adjustment).
You can fine tune the idle speed with it. The crud buildup was bad enough to where even though the clutch springs were pulling back in, the crud still caused a lockup condition even with a very low idle ( too low).
Thanks for watching and commenting!
So did you end up replacing the clutch springs yet? Di you solve the problem for good? I have an MS361 that has a constantly rolling chain. not usually a worry since i always use the chain brake as soon as the bar leaves the wood, but somewhat annoying.
M Stockdale, I did not replace the springs on this 029. My Stihl dealer is ordering me new springs even though he thought they "felt good", and told me the idle speed might have crept up on it. He said idle speed has to be as low as it can be to keep the chain from turning but I hate to keep having the engine die when I set it down for 5 to 10 seconds. I got in the habit of hitting the brake before putting it down on the ground. Cleaning the drum had the most effect on it as it had built up a hard crusty ridge in it that was grabbing the shoes. Right now the saw will idle with the chain barely wanting to creep.
Did you clean your drum? Some bar oil is worse than others at leaving a tacky residue of saw dust that in time becomes hard packed crust in the drum.
Thanks for commenting and work safe!
@@pmtips4482 if it's dying your either loading up or running lean. Does it four cycle at full throttle? If it does then adjust the low first....then idle speed ....then check the high in the cut...adjust idle....let it rest and cold check low idle ..tweak low....tweak idle. Done! Crazy right? Takes years to figure this crap out if you do it on your own.
@@mr.thomas5186 You are absolutely correct, and the main thing is, too lean too long will destroy an otherwise good engine.
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Did you end up talking to an echo rep about how the chain stop works? I have an echo cs-310 when I let off the throttle the Chan still spins for 1.5-2.5 seconds and sometimes when I start it without the chain break on it will rev right up and spin the chain near full throttle.
Hi Jon, I did not talk to a rep but I have an Echo dealer within 25 miles of me and talked with him a bit.
My CS-310 was fairly new in this video. My chain stops like it has an automatic brake but my dealer assured me it's just because everything is new, tight and clean. He showed me the parts and it is all pretty conventional with the traditional drum and centrifugal clutch. I think Echo has the spring tension in these clutches as perfect as you can get them.
Thanks for watching!
Thank you so much
You're most welcome!
That’s why I Don’t go to Home Depot.............I would rather get slapped around at Lowe’s.........nicer bathrooms to clean-up in.
What if i want to INTENTIALLY have my chainsaw spin idle?
My dad has the same saw and it does the same
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I appreciate it thank you
You are very welcome!
Happened to my Chainsaw
Hi. I have the same issue on my stihl ms180 but this solution doesnot help me fix it. Can u tell me why?
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Note: the sprocket doesn't spin freely. I changed the bearing and greased it and all the clutch spring's are fine but the chain still keep rotating during idle. Please reply.
The two things that make any sense on yours not stopping at idle with the conditions you mention are weak springs or simply a tad fast on the idle speed.
Is your saw fairly new or old?
@@pmtips4482 it's not old. Like a year and i haven't used it much.
I adjusted it to the lowest idle speed still it dsnt stop. What about the sprocket not spinning freely? What can cause that issue?
Can you easily slide the sprocket off?
@@pmtips4482it does slide but not that easy. It dsnt even spin freely
How do I get the blade to stay spinning? I want to record my own scary chainsaw sound effect.
Zip ties , if you do it “correct” you might even get to record the sounds of an ambulance too 😃
@@biterlegg5075 hahahah
hi, can i ask you about a problem i have?
Yes what is it?
@@pmtips4482 my chainsaw stop on idle, before that stopped completely and made a veird sound from carburator, do you have whatsapp? I can show you
@@ionmarius6652 No, no whatsapp.
You can start by making sure the little fuel filter is no plugged.
Then check the fire to spark plugs. Those are some easy checks you could make but you need to eliminate fuel and spark doubts.
@@pmtips4482 i also have facebook and instagram if you have , you think that carburator maybe dead? Is a Walbro that cost like 90$
Will check fuel filter tomorrow, replaced spark plug recently, also done tests on ignition seems fine.
My accelerates more and more and its not the trigger
Did you try cleaning the clutch and drum?
It can make a difference.
Thanks!
@@pmtips4482 didnt check its yet
@@pmtips4482 was carb . Now its cleaned and works fine
Turn the LA screw to the left ... problem solved
I'll be tweaking that screw.
Thanks for the tip!!
once I did a muffler mod and retuned my carb, the chain never stopped unless I engage the chain break. I just figured it was because of the power increase. I'm guessing (y)our low throttle screw on carb is adjusted too high for the clutch. @Pm Tips Have you done a muffler mod and opened your saw up yet? same saw I think MS 290 farmboss
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