RTX 3090 (and 3080) Owners! CHANGE Your Stock Thermal Pads! (Guide, Tips, Results) w/ Dr. JimRPG
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- RTX 3090 Owners - have you had problems with your memory temperatures? Me too! After testing it out using various GPU settings (default/undervolting/underclocking), trying in various games to max out the memory temps in games like Skyrim, MS Flight Sim 2020, Cyberpunk 2077, Red Dead Redemption 2, and even putting on a cheap fan and heatsink, I noticed the temps were getting worse. And it was finally time to do the thermal pad mod, and I'm glad I did. The aftermarket pads are much better than the factory ones. Obviously this will depend on what the AIB Board Partner uses, I only have an MSI RTX 3090 Ventus 3X so I can't tell what temps will be on other cards, but if you are struggling with memory temps, its worth considering swapping out the thermal pads. Use my guide and tips to help you, make sure to check out all the other videos on youtube so you're well informed before doing the mod!
The full and undeited RTX 3090 thermal mod video is located here -
MSI RTX 3090 Ventus 3X Thermal Pad Replacement - Full and Unedited, (Guide/Results Video Check Desc)
• MSI RTX 3090 Ventus 3X...
Chapters -
0:00 Memory Junction Temp Diagnosis
1:49 Intro
2:53 1. Monitor Temps (HWiNFO64)
3:28 2. Choosing Thermal Pads
3:58 3. Thermal Pads Thickness
4:34 4. Other Items
4:57 5. Record BEFORE settings and temp results
5:21 6. Opening up your GPU
5:49 7. 2mm or 3mm pads
6:47 8. Thermal Paste Application
7:29 9. Use screw holes to align GPU and heatsink
7:39 10. Don't screw mount too tight
7:50 Check Ambient Temps
9:24 Results
10:31 Conclusion
Costs -
MSI RTX 3090 Ventus 3x $1800
Thermal Right Odyssey Thermal Pads 2x 2.0mm $20
Isopropyl Alcohol $5
Arctic MX-4 Thermal Paste 8g $12
PC is -
10900k @ stock
Gigabyte Z490 Aorus Elite
Lian Li Galahad 360mm AIO at the front of the case
3 120mm exhaust fans (two at top, one at the back)
Corsair Vengeance 64gb DDR4 3200mhz ram RGB
MSI Ventus 3X RTX 3090
Corsair RMx850 PSU
Lian Li Mesh II RGB Airflow case (left side panel off)
My Videos testing RTX 3090 vram temps -
Don't Buy a RTX 3090 for mining (or gaming)
• Don't Buy a RTX 3090 f...
Undervolting Guide (for any GPU)
• Undervolting and Under...
Testing RTX 3090 - Undervolting, underclocking and lowering GDDR6X Temps (Cyberpunk 2077)
• Testing RTX 3090 - Und...
Testing RTX 3090 vram in MS Flight Sim 2020 (4k/Ultra)
• Testing RTX 3090 vram ...
Testing RTX 3090 vram temps in massively modded Skyrim - Toasty or Toasted?
• Testing RTX 3090 vram ...
Testing RTX 3090: How low will the vram temps go with this $8 heatsink and fan mod?
• Testing RTX 3090: How ...
MSI RTX 3090 Ventus 3X Thermal Pad Replacement - Full and Unedited, (Guide/Results Video Check Desc)
• MSI RTX 3090 Ventus 3X... - เกม
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Hey everyone, after changing out the thermal pads in the MSI RTX 3090 Ventus 3x and getting good results, I tried to change out the thermal pads in the Palit RTX 3080 Gaming Pro, and it was a lot harder than I expected. If you have the time, check out that video because there was a lot of things I learned from changing out the pads on that card. Thanks.
WATCH THIS! Before Changing RTX 3080 and 3090 Thermal Pads. (Especially Palit Owners)
th-cam.com/video/NjGVcu42l30/w-d-xo.html
The full unedited video for the thermal mod is located here -
MSI RTX 3090 Ventus 3X Thermal Pad Replacement - Full and Unedited, (Guide/Results Video Check Desc)
th-cam.com/video/WwOK20M_SC8/w-d-xo.html
Update 31/8/2021 - Be careful when you're opening up your GPU.
WORD OF WARNING: Watch out for this when opening up your graphics card.
th-cam.com/video/eO2b3QTTgss/w-d-xo.html
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Hey everyone, after changing out the thermal pads in the MSI RTX 3090 Ventus 3x and getting good results, I tried to change out the thermal pads in the Palit RTX 3080 Gaming Pro, and it was a lot harder than I expected. If you have the time, check out that video because there was a lot of things I learned from changing out the pads on that card. Thanks.
WATCH THIS! Before Changing RTX 3080 and 3090 Thermal Pads. (Especially Palit Owners)
th-cam.com/video/NjGVcu42l30/w-d-xo.html
omg thank youuuu so much
@@johnmark2014 no worries!
@@JimRPG Great guide! There is a product that is cheaper than thermalright you suggested but is the same. Checkout Frosty Thermal Pad - 12.8 W/MK. It's 40% cheaper but uses the same type of pad.
You will thank me later for saving you $$ ;).
This was amazingly documented! Thank you so much for taking the time and effort in doing this!
I have an MSI RTX 3080 Ventus 3x OC edition and now I'm curious to check my memory temps and see if I have to make this mod for my gaming (and folding@home) sessions. 90C or higher isn't comfortable for the long run.
Once again, thank you!
You're welcome! I think the procedure for the MSI RTX 3080 Ventus 3x should be very similar! Check the temps, you never know, maybe the temps are ok! Also check with other sources/videos on the thickness of the thermal pads so you know what to buy. GL!
@@JimRPG the 3080 doesn't have vram on back though
8:55 Remember boys, rule #1 when showing thermals: always give your ambient temperatures also.
Did I mention 25 degree ambient in the video? I don't remember. I thought I did. But there you go.
Also btw - its just a guess - I don't have a measurement for my room, but it shouldn't be more than a couple of degrees off.
Thanks a lot, man! Really useful review! Good luck with this channel.
2:20 - (great video JimRPG) - I see you answered @ end. Thanks!
Awesome guide. Finally did my first repaste and got the kind of results I was hoping for. Honestly never knew it was this easy before watching this video
Great job! I've done a couple of other ones which didn't go as smoothly so if you got it done and it works, you did a great job!
@@JimRPG well I first put it together with 3mm pads for some reason and then took it back apart to swap for 2mm pads.
After how many months of use did you repaste?
@@stevenx9830 if I put a card into a rig and it's not able to get close to it's potential no matter how much I tune it... Immediately. Otherwise maybe once a year. But I take my rigs apart and clean every 3ish months
Hey man thanks for the video, am doing my 2080 Trio soon so bingeing these types of video :)
Thanks for the video! I am about to start working on replacing the thermal pads on various Geforce RTX 3090 of different brands: MSI, Asus, Palit, Gigabyte...
I would like to make sure that the thickness of the pads will be right for those cards, considering that they come from different brands. I read online that (1,5mm) is good enough for both sides of the cards. What do you recommend?
Thank you!
Awesome Channel! Great demo! Will be sharing your posts! Thank you! 😎🤙💥
Thanks!
thank you for providing the pad thicknesses, most videos don't go over this
No worries. Also the pad thickness in this video is just for the MSI card, its different for every card.
@@JimRPG I have a 3080 ti ventus 3x, so it is very important that I found a video that measured the pads before I bought them.
Thanks. Great video. Always nice to hear an Aussie accent on youtube.
Haha - I get the same feeling when I watch Netflix and find its an Australian show with Australian actors.
I have the same card, I initially used 2mm GELID ultimate pads (harder version) for both front and back. No improvements and actually got worse, retried with 3mm GELID extreme pads (squishy version) front and back, still not good... after a few retries I ended up with: 3mm GELID extreme at the back, 2mm GELID ultimate + arctic thermal paste on top of the pads in front, with arctic thermal paste for the GPU chip. About more than -5C improvement
100% agree, I went from TJunction temps consistently hitting 110°C at ~200W to maxing out around 94°C at 400W just from switching out my crap thermal pads for 12.8W/mK pads. Highly, highly recommended, especially for people running GDDR6X.
They have to put in $10 of high performance thermal pads for these $3000 GPUs... they're ruining them if they dont.
@@JimRPG It's actually rally sad that the consumer has to fix their crappy thermal pads. If the manufacturer would buy good quality thermalpads in bulk, they would probably pay less then 5$ for them.
Which card do you have? Let me guess. A gigabyte?
@@swizzler8053 Ha, yup, Gigabyte Aorus Xtreme 3080
@@funghazi 🤣👊
Hello sir, do you have any ideas what are the thermal pad sizes used in gigabyte eagle rtx 3060ti
But was economy power turned on before the mod? I think those pads are too thick and so the contact of the gpu with the plate wasn't good, could it be?
I used 1.5mm thermal pads and loads of thermal paste. Dropped my vram from 110 to between 98-102 fluctuation, averaging 100 as per Hwin. I have the dell rtx 3090 so not sure if using 2mm pads would have been better or worse
2.0mm is worse. thinner is better. But keep them in contact is manadatory.
Thanks a ton for the video, gave me the confidence I needed to do this on my MSI RTX 3090 Ventus 3X. I used Thermalright 12.8 W/mK pads and it dropped my memory temps while mining from 100C down to 82C! I only changed the pads on the memory, front and back and on the heat pipe where it makes contact with the heatsink! I didn't worry about changing the pads on all the other components. Lots of the pads on the caps and other components seemed to be around 3.5mm and I did not feel like stacking pads and figured I'd see how it turned out. An 18C improvement is good enough for me, saved some expensive pads as well it seems.
This is great to hear. Yes 18 deg is a huge drop - and it doesn't get much better than that. To get any better you would have to start using a waterblock and that costs a lot more.
@@JimRPG do you any brand that sells water block for the Ventus 3x? I’m using one of the Corsair (only one I found), but I think they might have sent me the wrong model because the temperatures are worse with the loop.
You shouldn't be mining to begin with... I hope your card will catch a flame!
@@pepin8277 Why? It's his card, he can do with it what he wants to. (I'm not a miner, and have no interest in doing that to my 3080).
Some people have experienced much higher GPU temps, especially GPU hotspot temps after changing their VRAM thermal pads to better ones with a much higher thermal conductivity. This issue is more noticeable when gaming as GPU temps are higher here when compared to mining. Did you experience this same issue after changing the VRAM thermal pads on this RTX 3090? What were your before and after GPU temps (including hotspot temps)?
This is such a great video! Thanks for making this Jim! My 3090 (Aorus Xtreme) was running 106C at 115mh mining. After doing the thermal pad swaps on both sides of the card, I can do 115+ mh now at no more than 88C going for hours. (25C ambient) Very helpful!!! Keep up the great work!
Wow very nice Jason. I think that's a great result! Those gigabyte cards seem to have high temps out of the box.
What thermal pads did you use and what thickness?
Awesome work!
Thanks a lot!
hello, i just bougth some thickness 1.5mm hermal pads to change the 3090 msi ventus 3x ones, any thoughts about that, tks in advance.
Thanks for this. I have 3090 Ventus and have been worried about my temps. Playing Microsoft Flight Simulator my GPU stays in the low 70's, my memory pretty much settles at 80, but I have a hotspot that can go as high as 104. I am not at all technical so really worried about doing this, but wondering if my temps are more of a risk than not doing something? If it's just a case of not getting the best performance, then I don't care as my system is perfectly stable, doesn't crash and game performance is superb. But if it could damage my GPU then maybe I should do something?
In HWInfo if you put your mouse over GPU Temperature and GPU Hot Spot Temperature it'll say what they are.
The GPU temp is the average temp on the die.
The GPU hotspot temp is the hottest spot on the gpu die.
Mine is 12 deg hotter on the gpu hotspot temp right now, just mining. I could potentially see it as high as 20 deg difference. There's probably nothing you can do except if you really want you can put new thermal paste on the die, but I bet everyone's GPUs are like that.
Still I'd try to keep that hotspot temp down under 100 deg if you can. Turn your fan up, undervolt it a little (it'll be more efficient anyway).
Also more reading.
www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/nvidia-gpus-have-hotspot-temperature-sensors-like-amd.278606/
If you use the 3mm and it happens not enough contact with the GPU dis. What will be the impact?
What does it mean when your gpu is working, after you change the pads, it only produces a black screen?
Is there a list of brands/cards that require new thermal pads and a list of brands/cards that use the right stuff from the beginning?
They're almost all using very average thermal pads. I think maybe the Asus ROG Strix uses slightly better pads given some comments I've seen here about their temps, but aside from that most cards use minimum spec pads. Its easy to tell from people changing their pads out on their cards, everyone has a different brand/model.
How do you get the GPU Memory Junction temp? I just opened this app and I'm only seeing GPU Temp and GPU Hot Spot Temp, nothing about Memory Junction.
I'm running a 2060 Ventus OC.
what if 1.75mm so 2mm is the best choice? Thankyou!
Hey i used thermalright odyysey 2.0 on my rtx 3090 suprim x but nothing change after that i stack 2.0 and 0.5 odyysey pads it was very thick and gpu temps increased so how can i find best thermal pad any advice can you give me ?
Has anyone changed the thermal pads on an RTX 3090 inno3d x4? would like to know the size of the pads to order.
I had the same thing happen to me with higher GPU temps after replacing pads and paste. I also used MX-4. I've tried messing around with pads and replacing the paste again, etc. I'm wondering if I somehow got fake MX-4. Anyway, I did initially buy some cheaper pads so I've decided to order some Gelid Ulitmate 2mm pads as well as some Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut paste and I'm hoping that will fix my issues (even though I wasted $30 on the prior round of getting stuff).
Fake MX-4! Interesting. Well you can always order a few from other suppliers and test it out. Most of the thermal pastes actually are within a couple of degrees of each other so you can buy whichever really, the kryonaut is supposed to be pretty good though. Have you put the gelid ultimate and themal grizzly kryonaut paste? I was lucky to get it right the first time with the MSI Ventus 3x, but my other card a Palit 3080 took 9 tries, because tolerances were really tight.
I have same card as you. but i bought the 3mm thermal pads. is it ok? or I should buy another 2mm pads?
2mm definitely... you can try 3mm, but what i expect will happen is the gpu core won't touch the heatsink and your gpu core will be hotter. That's what happened to me on another card.
Just bought the same exact card. Didn't realize the temperature would go up after a couple months. Going to have to decide if I should return this card or learn how to change the thermal pads.
Good video mate. Appreciate it. 10/10
Cheers!
Can you post what thicknesses are needed for the front (gpu side) and backplate side?
Ok this is for the MSI RTX 3090 Ventus 3x.
For both front and back thermal pads on the memory modules, I bought Thermalright Odyssey Pads 2.0mm thickness. I bought two packs and cost me about $11 each.
I bought 2x Gelid Extreme 2.0MM for GPU side and 2x 3.0MM for backplate side for a RTX 3090 Suprim, you think would be good?
I haven't seen any videos for the RTX 3090 Suprim so I'm afraid I don't know... try and find someone who's done it before online to confirm the pads otherwise you have to open the card up first.
I've got a 3090 Suprim X - what thermal pad sizes do I need to get for this?
Best to ask someone with a 3090 Suprim X - I wouldn't go by the Ventus 3X, different class card. Suprim could have different pad thicknesses.
You are making dreams come true
Good videos man, thank you. Got a zotac 3090 running at 84c 100mh. Been thinking about doing this.
if its 84c id leave it... though i suppose you prob want it to go higher 120mh. See what temps you get at 120mh, and then decide if its 90c its ok... 100c id do the thermal pad swap. I think an extra 20% profits are worth it. :) just my two cents. I don't know if its difficult on the zotac or not.
Hi I have a 3080 ti ftw3 and I want to change the thermal pads. Which is better in hardness and conductivity and which will not cause me any issues on my graphics card?
There are a lot of different brands out there. First I would look up videos of FTW3 owners changing their pads and see what thickness and brands of pads they are using and see if it works for them. This video I used a MSI Ventus 3X, and I used Thermalright Odyssey pads which are fine, but obviously I don't know what thickness your card is.
Zotac 3080ti has the worst thermal pads. Mine is less than a year and the VRAM temps is slowly rising to the 90s level while gaming. So I did copper shim modding (risky and you should know what you are doing) with combination of thermal pads (the thinnest - 0.5mm). Vram temps now stable at 68C while playing. Did a GPU stress test using furmark/MSI Kombustor and peaks at 75C.
Most cards do 110C on VRAM with stock. 84-86 seems ice cold by comparison, I wouldn't have even bothered to mod it. But good job and great video, thank you for your insights.
110C is outside of operating spec.
I have read that with better thermal pads on the memory modules, the additional heat removed from the memory and 'seep' into the GPU.
its ok the GPU core is usually 20 deg below the memory anyways in mining. otherwise you can underclock your GPU core a bit during gaming if its too hot. but that's really good to know! thanks.
Looking for feedback please. Running a 3090 in a wide open case that is never closed with multiple aftermarket cooling fans for GPU. The CPU is water cooled. The temp never exceeds 50 degrees and my VRAM temp stays between 90-94 degrees max while under 100% load with 115 MH/s range and power wattage 280ish with MH/j efficiency of 0.40. The GPU fans fluctuate between 60%-90%.
When I end up speaking with folks who had massive success with swapping thermal pads, I find it is often they were really pushing it or using OC or they lowered the VRAM temp by 20 degrees but were landing in the 110 degree range in the first place. Any input greatly appreciated. Cheers!
Yep I generally agree - if you're already in the 80s, its not worth changing out. 90-94 is getting to the hot end. I'd consider thinking about changing it out around 95-100deg. The problem is getting very little gain for the effort you put in. And some cards like for example the Palit RTX 3080 which I just changed was a real pain with very tight tolerances on the thickness of the pads or the whole card wouldn't work.
I'm just worried since NVIDIA said this would void the warranty. Do you think if I kept the original thermal pads and put them back on before an RMA NVIDIA would be any the wiser?.
Pads can be disrupted easily even just by opening the card - think sticks of chewing gum before you chew it. It really depends on how good a job you do keeping the old thermal pads.
If you're outside the US you could void the warranty, so do it at your own risk. In the US you can open the card and it won't void the warranty. It's not a complicated procedure though, nothing electrical here, just some screws and some fan headers (be careful with those). Important to get the thickness of the thermal pads right otherwise it won't work and either the GPU core or memory won't be touching the heatsink properly.
i have a single fan 3090 Gigabyte rtx video card. How many millimeters of thermal pads corresponds? Greetings from Argentina
Hola, yeah Im sorry but I don't have a Gigabyte 3090 so I don't know. The best thing is to search for someone opening up their Gigabyte 3090 (make sure its the same model as well) and check what thickness of thermal pad they are using.
Got some of that pink grizzly kryonaught extreme paste for my card but not sure on which brand makes the best thermal pads.
go with the bigger brands like Thermal Grizzly or Thermalright - don't worry about the no name brands.
is it possible to change only the backplate thermal pads on the 3080? dont want / have thermal pads for the front yet
depends which card you have. Some cards you can just unscrew the backplate like the Palit 3080. Other cards like the 3090, you have to pry open the card first and seperate the heatsink and the GPU before removing the backplate (screws are on the inside)
I was able to drop by Mem Tj by 14 degrees (88 to 74) after the thermal pad change. Core Temp went up 1-2 degrees. Totally worth it! And the MSI RTX 3080 and 3090 are very easy to take apart.
what paste did you put for core ?
@@aczech12 Kryonaut Thermal Grizzly
awesome video! loved the acting
lol you mean you loved the bad acting.
Man that's awesome! It makes me mad when a product so expensive has cheap *** stuff in it, you are almost forced to "void" the warranty.
It is imo almost a design fault... its just not quite a 'fault' but 90 deg+ is not really acceptable.
@@stevemisfit1 The problem at least for me is even if my GPU temp says 74C it thermal throttles because the memory temps are so high.
Yup and there are videos online which speculate that 90-100 degrees is the degradation temperature of GDDR6X memory modules. Without these mods I really can’t see the 3090 surviving the 2-3 years of warranty period.
@@MrMooMoo89 What model do you have?
@@greggreg2458 Ventus 3080.
The intro was hilarious
knifed the warranty sticker off like a boss🤣
How good it is ODYSSEY Thermal Pad comparated to the Thermal Grizzly Minus Pad 8?
I haven't tested Minus Pad 8 - but it should be good, its a pretty reputable brand and a few other youtubers have used them. Also Gamers Nexus uses them.
Bro this video was unreal. This is my next project since I am indeed having high junction temperatures. Mine are 98-100 as I type this. I was also thermal throttling while mining and I didn't know why! I will update when I do mine!
great! report back if you do it, but also check out my other videos on my channel, because its easy to run into issues doing the mod. One of my other cards a 3080, I had to get exact thickness for thermal pads, otherwise it didn't work, and another card I cut fan cable and had to get outside help to fix it.
For GeForce RTX 3080 VENTUS 3X PLUS 12G OC LHR To be the same thicknesses on the thermalpad as it is on 3080 3090 ??. If anyone knows, please let me know. Thank you
Thanks for this! I have an MSI RTX3090 in front of me now that is actually missing one of the VRAM pads.
ok you definitely need to put in a pad! 😄
If one RAM chip dies the whole card is a paperweight.
have a question, do you know what size of thermal pads it is on gigabyte 3060 eagle? :)
Sorry i dont, also i think you should be ok, unless you feel like the temperatures are too hot.
Temperatures are only a big concern on the GDDR6X cards - so just the RTX 3080 and 3090, runs at least 15-20degs hotter than the GDDR6 in the 3060.
Awesome video. I followed your steps, but the nicehash quickminer now goes to 80c in the GPU(but the mem temp dropped). I applied the mx-5 thermal compound in the gpu. anything else I should check? thanks!
yes something is wrong - GPU core shouldn't go that high. I think what happened was the thermal pads on memory are too thick, so the heatsink is not touching the GPU core. I had the same thing happen on another card - the Palit 3080, where my mem temps were fine but the GPU core was really hot. This video here - th-cam.com/video/NjGVcu42l30/w-d-xo.html
Normally if you've done it right, the GPU core is between 45-65 deg, and the memory is like 20 deg hotter, maybe 30 max if its GDDR6X.
Also I don't use nicehash quickminer so I don't really know how to help there. I just use MSI Afterburner and Nicehash program. But I don't think its an issue of the quickminer.
@@JimRPG it was exactly that. Thanks!
Hi, thanks for this video but when you replace the pads it's too fast for me. Do you have the unedited complete process on how to change them? You put a big heat sink after you added a thermal paste what was that?
Hi John, sorry about that - it was because I tried to match the script to the footage so I sped it up 10x. I've found the original footage, I'm going to post up the whole thing though its over an hour long. I'll link once I've done it.
To answer your question though - to replace the pads, you undo the screw on the back of the card. Just make sure you have all the screws undone, then the heatsink and fans should only be held to the GPU by the thermal paste. You can try to pry it off slowly, if it doesn't come off you still have screws attached. When its off, be careful there's very short cables attached which you must pull out if you can (or look after them). Replace the pads. After that, put thermal paste on, then put the heatsink and fans back on as you found it (including cables you detached and attach them). Put the screws back in.
@@JimRPG thank youuuuu sooo much
Hi John - the full video is here -
MSI RTX 3090 Ventus 3X Thermal Pad Replacement - Full and Unedited, (Guide/Results Video Check Desc)
th-cam.com/video/WwOK20M_SC8/w-d-xo.html
@@JimRPG You are the best!!!
Is this thread still live? I wonder if those thicknesses will work for the byski dual sided ventus waterblock? RTX 3090 ventus , so ram chips on back also
I don't know about the byski dual sided waterblock! That's not a bad idea, but for mining if you can keep your mem temps below 95 its good enough. GPU core is usually lower because its undervolted.
@@JimRPG I used 1.5mm if i recall. I don't mine, I'm a gamer. But that byski block keeps my ram super cool. Gpu still gets to mid 40s while gaming, but ram stays cooler than when i had a one sided corsair block
Does this void warranty?
friend you can leave the link or name of the heatsink or heat fan ... where did you get it?
I just picked up a no name brand heatsink off shopee. It's a malaysian online webstore. It's this one - shopee.com.my/Extruded-Aluminum-Heatsink-For-High-Power-LED-IC-Chip-Cooler-Radiator-Heat-Sink-i.171380262.4533480084
I recommend a high quality one which might pull off a bit more heat - but in general I don't think it does that much, and probably isn't worth the trouble.
i have gigabyte rtx 3080 gaming oc , and i ordered 2.5mm thermal pad ,,now my question , is this perfect for my gpu ,, or i go with 3mm thermal pad
I don't have that card so I can't say... but i think a lot of people have changed the pads for that so check around.
I tried changing the memory pads , I used Thermalright pads and arctic 5 paste. In my before case, when I mined at the settings I use, I had a GPU temp of about 54degC, , memory ~106 to 108degC, my fan speed was set to auto and it would max out to 100% (3400 rpm). After case, the GPU is now about 67degC, memory 92 degC, fan speed still on auto is now around 56% (1250 rpm). What do you think? Does thermal paste need to set or did I do a bad application (or an arctic 5 issue)? If I manually set the fans to 90%, the GPU goes to about 62 and memory 88. So I do have an improvement on the memory... just my GPU temps have gone up.
:D figured out my error, the fan sync setting was not on. With fan sync on and fan speed set to 100% I'm getting 53degC, 1 deg better than before. At 90% fans, I'm getting 54degC. I'll change the fan curve so it operates at higher than 56%, I'll shoot for about 65 to 75%.
Your thermal paste is not supposed to set (its not meant to dry out, you would be waiting forever).
Ok sounds like you fixed your problem if you got 67 deg for gpu and mem 92 deg and now your GPU core is 53 deg (i'm assuming your memory temps is also much better).
If you're mining run your fans at 80-90%, fans are cheaper to replace than a GPU ;).
Can u tell me about how to change thermal pads on Inno 3d ichill x4 3080 its design kind of complicated. Thanks by the way great video
Hi there, I don't have any experience with an Inno 3D card. I think you're right - its probably trickier to open up. That said if you go slowly you can do it. But monitor your temps first - unless you're over 100 degrees I wouldn't worry about changing the thermal pads.
Have you watched my video about max temps - MICRON RESPONDS! What max temps should you run your G6X GPU at? RTX 3090 / 3080 Ti / 3080 / 3070 Ti
th-cam.com/video/ph4_Sr8YNXI/w-d-xo.html
Great informative video. I found it very funny you wore a doctor's outfit initially.
haha i watched it back, i could probably do it better now!
@@JimRPG I have waited over a decade for someone to make a video about heat pads. You always see thermal paste being talked about but not thermal paste.
I applied an EK water block cooling system on my 3090 and get lower GPU temps but higher memory junction temps. I replaced all thermal pads and the instructions told me to put 1mm thermal pads on the memory. I'm thinking that they need to be replaced now with 2mm thick pads now.
which 3090 do you have? you should get slightly lower memory junction temps. how much higher did you get? Maybe the heatsink is not touching the memory temps. Don't want to suggest too much more in case I lead you off in the wrong direction. Hope you get it sorted!
@@JimRPG I have the 3090 Ftw3 ultra. Junction temps are 5-10 degress warmer. Hopefully 2mm pads help.
@@jayzon00 Cool - GL with that.
In the same scenario, I went from 110C to 82C on my Gigabyte Gaming OC RTS 3080. Did front memory pads with 2mm and added back ones with 3mm.
also heatsinks and fan?
Yeah everyone on youtube is changing out their gigabyte gaming! 😄
what pads did you use? brand
i tried to do this and one of the 4 screws that hold the disipator stripped and i can't remove it.... any ideas on how to take it out?
Get professional help for this. Don't ruin your 3090!
I'm having such a hard time finding the thickness of thermal pads for NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080. For both the front and back plate. :( I estimate 2.0 mm in front, 3.0 mm in back. not sure
is this for the founders edition? There's many AIB brands for the RTX 3080 as well as the original Nvidia Geforce RTX 3080 Founder's Edition. There should be many videos out there for the 3080 - its one of the most popular cards out there.
My memory junction temp is at 104 constant mining Raven. with a MSI 3080. I'm going to swap thermanl pads with Extreme Odissey 2 - 14,8W/mK - 3mm hope it will bring it down to the 80ºC at least
Anyone know either gelid or thermalrite thermal pad thickness size for a 3080 gaming x trio
It makes you wonder why the thick "unspreadable" pastes like Phobya Nanogrease or Thermaltight TFX perform better than the thin ceramic pastes, even with the huge conductivity difference
Do you think this is necessary for a ROG Strix 3080?
From what I've heard most people with a ROG Strix has been happy with their temps, but the best thing is to download HWinfo64 and check out the memory temps.
I have the aorus waterforce 3080 with the waterblock. Does it have the same thermal pad problems? Or is it just air cooled?
Well considering you have the waterblock you should be better off than most people, but download something like HWInfo and you can check the memory and GPU core temps. I'd only worry if you're over 95 deg on either.
@@JimRPG okay i will check it with that program thank you.
Would this apply to 3080ti?
Thanks for sharing these tests and putting in the work. I probably won't be replacing thermal pads on my MSI 3090 since it runs like a dream but does get hot. I will probably replacing my 3090 Fe which thermal throttles like crazy which I can barely stand. We'll see how long my MSI lasts playing games and mining. It does have a bit of coil whine now...LOL.
Yep I felt the same way. I didn't want to do the mod, but i was basically left with no choice, it was going to get worse and I already bought pads anyway.
If you're happy with it - don't have risk anything and keep using it.
@@JimRPG I'll be sure to check for this while mining with my 3090 Vision. Have you heard of any other AIBs doing this or just the MSI one?
@@chancekalugyer2376 Lots of other people have changed pads so its not just MSI, but its possible some companies use better pads than others, thats why I said in the video just to monitor temps to begin with, maybe you're ok with temps on your card.
Can i apply thermal pads upon outside ic's of the gpu & hdd?
What’s ics?
hey Jim, how many packs of thermal pads did you end up buying?
Hi Handy. I bought 2 packs of the Thermalright Odyssey pads for the MSI RTX 3090 Ventus 3x. They're 85mm x 45mm i think (off the top of my head).
Depends if you have a 3080 or 3090 and what pads are needed on either side. Definitely check a video before buying pads, pads can be different on the front and back and 3080 has 10gb of vram and 3090 24gb!
@@JimRPG cheers brother, thanks for making the vid
My issue is it don’t have a back plate was the front is water cooled from egpu, so backend will get warm thinking of ram heat sinks
I think ekwb back a back plate water block. Linus video on this - th-cam.com/video/ToTWaZtGOj8/w-d-xo.html
I bought used RTX 3080, and thought the loud fan is normal when gaming and the hotspot being 100+C is normal. Till like few months later it starts to overheat and turn off the PC in moderate gaming session. First thought it was CPU or SSD thermal paste needs changing, then I decided to brave it and open up the GPU to find out how crusty the thermal paste already is. Change only the paste and not the thermal pad, but now the hotspot is going even barely 90C. Not sure how the warranty gonna be, but at least this looks like it could last another 3 years.
Hi I’m have 3080 aorus master and change pads artic pads 2mm rams and others 1mm but temp is hight 106 whene mining what wrong make?
Yep sounds like something is wrong... I'd go and check other people's aorus master and aorus extreme videos and see if they did something you missed.
Here's Son of a Tech's video on the Aorus Master -
th-cam.com/video/rH3Oavi-0OE/w-d-xo.html
I also have my own video on the Palit 3080 Gaming Pro - but I had to do it 9 times to fix the problem. The pads had to be 0.75mm and over 0.1mm more it wouldn't work. Not saying that's your problem - just saying I had to keep trying as it can be tricky.
WATCH THIS! Before Changing RTX 3080 and 3090 Thermal Pads. (Especially Palit Owners)
th-cam.com/video/NjGVcu42l30/w-d-xo.html
Good Luck!
Krynout grizzly vs Cryofuze? For GPU
Can you tell me what the Hotspot temperature is on the core while running a game?
Cyberpunk 2077 about 77-80 deg. That's probably the highest I got. Hotspot is generally 10 deg hotter on avg... so 90 deg.
@@JimRPG I took the risky dive into copper shim modding. Cyberpunk gaming hot spot temp is only 70C. GPU temp at 64C and VRAM max temp at 69C. Not bad but a very risky mod if you do not know what you are doing. I did a thorough research before doing this mod.
Thanks to your video I changed the pads. Preliminary settings, 1140 core, 10801 memory, mining at 121 MH/s at 94°C. I have not reached max OC for memory, but have to go to bed. Got lucky for the first time on the silicon lottery.
It's 94 too high? Hynix updated their website to say their GDDR6X memory is good to 105, with 95 being safe, but I'm worried the thermal paste will start getting worse again.
315 watts power draw. Wow.
Congrats. most of the time it is not too difficult to change out, but when there are problems it can be frustrating.
I just did a video on safe temps - its the latest video on my channel.
95-105 deg celsius is where they say you might get errors or throttling of memory. 94 is on the border, but if you've already changed the pads out, just try it out for a bit. Not sure its worth getting it down a few more degrees. Myself I lowered the memory a bit and doing 115Mh/s - you can lower the temps a couple of degrees that way.
so is the non FE 3090 the same design as 3080 when disassembling it?
This is a MSI Ventus 3x RTX 3090, all the other 3090s from Asus, Gigabyte, EVGA etc will be slightly different. But generally speaking, there'll be a few screws on the back plate and then held together just by the thermal paste on the GPU. At least that's what I've been able to decipher from watching various people on youtube replacing the thermal pads. You have to just check to make sure you've got all the screws out before trying to pull the card apart. These cards were made to be assembled/disassembled by hand.
@@JimRPG Yeah I can see that a lot of these 3000 series need to be unscrewed further after removing the front plate as well, thank you.
would this help gamers? or just miners? because I've read accounts of people changing their thermal pads, getting lower temps, but getting decreased gaming performance (lower fps/micro-stutters)
it can help gamers. it depends on what games you play... some games result in very high memory temperatures, Tom's Hardware says Metro Exodus at 4k with RTX on can be over 100deg on a RTX 3080.
Where did you see that it decreased gaming performance, that doesn't make sense logically, the gaming performance shouldnt change, its just lower temperatures, which would protect your graphics card longer term.
@@JimRPG not sure, somewhere on reddit, and i took it with a grain of salt hence i asked you, because you seemed to know what you're doing. for what it's worth, i'm asking because i was thinking of doing this to my brand new msi 3090 suprim x (which i don't use for mining at all)
Are the pads the same size on the Trio X 3090?
Good question I don't know! I wouldn't just assume its the same and I'd try to find another video or resource online to confirm before opening the card. Sometimes you can tear the pads when opening.
Try using thermalright TFX for your GPU, cross pattern with blobs on each edge in the middle. TFX is known to be better for GPU due to its being a very thick paste optimized for low mouting pressure on GPU
Great, I hadn't heard of TFX - and I'm going to check that out. Thanks!
@Earl hey I just checked it out, its $10 for 2g, and about $40 for 6g. I think I paid $10 for Artic MX-4 for 8g. I'll definitely check it out at some point, it looks awesome. Thanks for the recommendation.
@@JimRPG Arctic mx4 lasts about 2 weeks in a gpu. TFX however...
@@toxy3580 Ill look into it! :)
Am I blind? :)
Did you share WHICH thermal pads you bought to change it to?
At about 3:58, Thermalright Odyssey pads. Also after 6 months usage - still the same temps! very good pads!
Hey, can someone please help me out. I just ordered Thermalright brand 12.8w/mk, but 2.25mm, I should've just gone with 2mm. But, when I contacted EVGA about thermal pad size, they indicated to me 2.25mm. But, now, my GPU DIE doesn't seem to be making proper contact. I am getting close to 81c as my hotspt.
Before it use to be WAYY less then that when it comes to mining.
I just ordered 2mm Thermalright brand 12.8w/mk, but, I am concerned about size. Should I just order 1.5mm instead?
If 2.25mm doesn't work, try 2mm. If that doesn't work - adjust your thickness by squashing the thermal pad slightly.
You should measure the pad with calipers that came out of your graphics card. One card I had, I had to redo 8 times because I couldn't get the thickness right. The gpu core temp and vram temp should be approx 20-30 (max) apart when mining. Like 50/70 or 60/80... not 50/90 or 80/80 (if its too far apart, or too close) one of them is not making proper contact.
@@JimRPG HEY! Thanks so much for the info, very helpful. Appreciate it. I think my biggest mistake was getting rid of my EVGA stock pads. I mean it was still soft, and I was getting like 42/55. Which I think is good as it gets. The only thing I should've replaced was the paste. Because the paste was ROCK HARD.
Right now I have ordered the ThermalRight Pads as shown in your video. 12.8w/mk. But, this time 2mm. Whereas before it was 2.5mm, and I think that was the main issue. I was thinking of getting GELID, which I hear better performance, but I am afraid if I end up with some STIFF pads?
I can still cancel my order and get GELID, but just not sure if it is worth it?
@@fpshooterful 42/55 is really good! Well i did that as well on my Palit card - it was perfectly fine, and i made it worse when I opened it up... it took as i said 8 goes before getting it back to where it was.. no improvement just back to same temps.
Btw - your EVGA card will have different thermal pad thickness to mine, i had a MSI card in this video.
I haven't used GELID - either is honestly fine. I got it to work with thermalright so I think you can try that again. But I bought a lot of pads (of lots of different sizes) so there was a bit of a trial and error process and can get a little expensive and wasteful.
@@JimRPG Yes, i contacted EVGA, and their staff indicated to me that I needed a 2.25mm pad. But, here in Canada, we can only get 2.5mm or 2mm. And on reddit, plus couple of other users i contacted, they indicated to me 2.5mm should be fine, since i can "squeeze" into place if it didn't if. Once i got the 2.5mm pad it actually looked the same as EVGA PAD, but ofcourse "eyeing" it isn't the best i idea. And EVGA pad felt more heavier and softer.
HOPEFULLY, the 2mm i just ordered by ThermalRight does the trick. It did feel soft the first time i ordered it, hopefully the 2mm size makes a difference. I am afraid if i order GELID it might be stiff. And i am about on my 6th try lol. It will 7th when I get the 2mm pad, and hopefully my last.
The main reason why i did this because i was crashing when I OC'd my memory clock to 1100 when i first got this card, for gaming. Eventually ended up memory OC at 850 after 7 months, for gaming, otherwise i would crash if i went higher. So, i just assumed that the pads were getting worn out? Since i MINE on top of that. I was hoping for better temps by replacing the pads, and better OC results for gaming. For mining i was perfectly fine with the factory pads.
my 3080 tuf get's to 80 MH/s and then hits 100c junction temps. any ideas why?
power limit 59%
mem clock +300
core clock -400
fan speed 80%
gpu temp 43 c
if GPU temp is only 43 - your thermal pads and heatsink aren't touching the memory is my guess if its so hot, have you opened the card up before? Is it a new card or did u get it used? Either way you have to watch a video and see the thickness of thermal pad that other people used and try that. Sometimes a tolerance of + or - 0.1mm can cause problems like this.
I went through a very similar issue where the GPU temps were cold and the memory was hot, but i opened up the card and put in thermal pads that were too thin.
WATCH THIS! Before Changing RTX 3080 and 3090 Thermal Pads. (Especially Palit Owners)
th-cam.com/video/NjGVcu42l30/w-d-xo.html
@@JimRPG i haven't opened it yet but am definitely looking into it because of the temp disparity between the card and its memory. it's used from a buddy who got it from a prebuild for like 2 weeks
thanks for the link i'll check it out
my gigabyte 3080 sits at 75C core but 117C memory. im thinking of waterblocking it
Actually thru testing from what I done in my life it doesn't matter even if you put on too much thermal paste, the heat cycles will smooth it anyway since metal expands and vise versa
yeah I just dont like to put too much because I want just enough metal contact and just enough where the paste fills some voids, rather than a thick layer of paste and have it all squeeze out the sides. But sure technically it'd be mostly fine i think.
Great video with good detail. For some reason I've tried this twice to the tee and my card is 10-15 degrees hotter while mining the factory results. If anyone knows why please let me know. I have an EVGA ftw3.
Yeah it can be like that with different cards - but when you say factory - u mean the standard settings? You have to use optimised settings and undervolt the 3080 and 3090. You can use between 280-300W and get 120mh/s on the 3090. Standard settings out of the box would run the 3090 at 350W.
@@JimRPG Yes, i am aware of how to edit settings on MSI afterburner.
Hola buenos días, le cambié los pads termicos y ahora cuando inicio la PC se prende el fan al 100% y luego se pone la pantalla negra. Puede ser que sea porque le cambie los pads por otro grosor y no esté haciendo tope con el GPU el disipador? Gracias
Hello good morning, I changed the thermal pads and now when I start the PC the fan turns on at 100% and then the screen goes black. Could it be because I changed the pads for another thickness and the heatsink was not hitting the GPU? Thanks
You have to use the same thickness pads, I hope you didn't throw away the old pads. Measure them with calipers and buy the same size thickness. Technically your PC should still turn on and display the monitor, but if your GPU is not touching the heatsink, your GPU core temps will increase really fast and yeah screen could go black once your temps increase too fast. But if you are not actually using the GPU, if its just windows, your temps won't increase that much. I'm not sure what's happened to your GPU - I would just try it again at least a few times and see if you get the same result each time. You might have to take it back to where you bought it and get another opinion on it. Good Luck.
@@JimRPG Hello,
I managed to place some 1.5mm generic thermal pads to get rid of the doubt if my video card was dead and in the end it worked for me! Thank you so much
Now I am going to change them for higher performance ones and I need to know if it is necessary to change all the pads or if it is enough to change only those of the memories, that is, only those around the GPU. Thanks
@@nachols17 Congrats! I think if its working, and you're more or less happy with temps just keep using it until you really need to change it out again.
Jim, have seen others say 1.5mm instead of 2mm... thoughts? It’s an MSI, allegedly so were the others... Cheers!
It was 2mm front and back for me for the Ventus 3x. It's possible others have slightly different. I'd ask around or check more videos and see what other people have. It's not impossible that some Ventus 3x have different pads. I changed the Palit 3080 and someone else had different pad thickness to me.
You can always open the card and check yourself :), but sometimes that can mean disturbing the pads and sometimes they can break/tear, and you'll have to wait until you get the pads to fix. Bottom line (get same thickness pads that you have in your card).
Do you offer this mod as a service?
I replaced the thermal pads on my MSI 3090 Gaming X Trio and observed a 3.5 degree improvement in Memory Junction temps, which was probably not worth the time, effort and money. Not to mention, probably voiding my warranty - or at least making it a point of contention should I ever have to RMA the card.
I feel like if you're already in the 80s while mining, you're good. but gaming should be mostly fine. Id only change them if its 95-100deg...
Hey I got the same card, what thickness of pads is right for that model and how many did you need? Thanks!
So would u recommend it to mine now with switched out pads?
Yes with switched out pads. Also given what we know now about OP temperatures - its fine under 95 deg.
Plus the fact that LHR now exists for all the Nvidia models except the 3090, makes it a much better option.
Thank u!