How to Replace Thermal Pads on Any GPU!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ม.ค. 2021
- Used the pad replacement on the RTX 3080 Master to build a quick guide on the process for replacing thermal pads on any gpu.
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dude awesome stuff thanks for the call out! serpentxsf and I had the same issues on our gigabyte eagle and gaming oc 3080. Gonna order a flash router soon!
I'm 100% you can get more mh/s if you drop the power limit to 85%-90% from the get to, right now you dropped the temperature but you're still outputting a ton of heat which is hard for your GPU to manage, if you reduce the power limit just a bit you will be able to get higher memory clocks before crashing because your overall heat output will be lower to start with.
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Another tip I learned over the years, before you take apart anything, take pictures of everything! That could save you a massive headache, it´s really easy to forget what goes where....
I figured this.
Or even better record a video or a timelapse ;)
Glad you could fix it. just ordered some pads myself. keep up the good work!
Honestly was skeptical starting out because it was a pretty informal delivery. But I must say glad I watched, very informative and all of your points were correct and dead on. You did your homework. Liked.
I have this exact same model, replaced all the pads as show on the video and the temperature improvement was massive, so much better now, vram going from 80-82c, tdp 65%, clock and memory clock on default, thx a lot for the video!!!
Came there to learn something about mining, discovered another great tech channel. Thanks man, keep it going. Please make more vids about tech/mining correlation
I am not a newbie when it comes to all things PC. You're very knowledgeable. I learned some things. Awesome... You have a gift for teaching. Thank you kind sir.
The music reminds me of spa I go to. So relaxing
Thanks for the general PSA!
This is very useful for general use, gaming, and mining.
Never knew that Gigabyte cards had that poor cooling at GDDR6X memory.
I just did this, I went from 82 mh/s peaking at around 104 C to 92 mh/s peaking at around 88 C. I don't understand why manufacturers wont just use better thermal pads, but at least its not super difficult to replace them. Your video was invaluable in getting all the stuff I needed to do the job.
If they make their cards indestructible, we won't be able to kill them :)
Easy. Put on bad thermal pads, less GPU lifespan, more sales
@@scarysunburns7733 It's actually the other way around. Better thermal pads, like paste, degrade much faster than the lower performance variants, so assuming someone is going to chuck it into a hotbox and never maintain the card, the longer lasting thermal pads are a more realistic choice than the higher performing ones. Companies don't know the end use of the card, so this is the safest option.
Awesome stuff, man! Thanks for this breakdown!
Great video man! Gonna be replacing my pads as well and lucky to see a tutorial video for the same card I have.
Do you have a list of thermal pads I should get for the xtreme 3080
Thanks Man! Used the link and ordered the thermal pads. :)
You are awesome. Love that I'm getting a thermal pad replacement guide on a mining youtube channel. I don't personally need the instructions, but I can only imagine that someone who gets into mining and has possibly a dozen or several dozen GPUs but is not experienced technically would find this extremely useful.
Too bad that a high end RTX 3080 can't get that GDDR6X past +1000. Big time bummer on that.
Absolutely no problem doing upwards to +1300 mem, i am doing 0.787mV undervolt at 990 MHz, 46% PL, 100.9 MH/s @ 155watts :D
right up my alley this week
im about to do the pads on 2 5600xts and a 5700
possibly a 3rd 5600xt, ill see when it gets here
also big tip for many ppl: i throw away all plastic backplates, plastic is an insulator
I followed this and Red Panda's guide using this Amazon product: Frosty Ice Cube Plus Thermal Pad - 12.8 W/mK. So far 30 degree drops easily, and at the right price compared to the other brands these days.
At least now my gpu start throttling especially in the summer right now. Thanks for the demo!
wait so is the frosty ice cube pads good or bad?
@@ScooterPS They are incredible. Beyond words. At the price I paid, I cannot go back to other brands. I was able to drop my cards to the 80s on all of them and they never throttle or get high even in summer. It has been so good that I also decided to change my older cards and the drop in temperatures is phenomenal. A 5700 XT I had dropped like 30 degrees.
@@ScooterPS Now that I think about it, I might pick more up since its on sale right now. I just hope it will last as I have a few more cards coming in next month.
Instead of the metal tool, use the plastic spudgers in the ifixit kit when working close to the board to avoid/minimize possible damages
For ESD purposes also. Plus I dont know how easy those tiny resistors around the IHS is to pop off but don't want to find out. Pretty sure that little boo boo would void a warranty or two. I would guess the spudging tool would "give" while a metal object would pop it clean off into regions unknown. I use fancy toothpicks and a jeweler's glass for cleaning around tiny components.
Great timing!
Thank you for the the video man, appreciated.
Thanks, dude. Helped me a lot.
I went from 71 to 61 on all my cards by doing this....three months before this came out. But I appreciate you bringing this knowledge forward to the community. Learning how to take care of your hardware is super important.
How many cards?
@@Doozy95 after my server power supply upgrade I'm up to nine
@@nightwintertooth9502 and you've done this thermal pad mod to all cards and all dropped 10°c from previous highs?
@@nightwintertooth9502 I'm only asking cause I have a shitty gigabyte that I'm about to pad mod and hope I can fix it. Cause it's running 10°c hotter than any of my other cards.
@@Doozy95 When you do, I would recommend ARCTIC pads, they're the ones I use. Grab a digital measuring clamp and measure the thickness before you start pulling them off. I needed 0.5mm for my power amp chipset (because I've got older dual PCIe 4x2x2 (8x2) cards that need one), 1mm for underneath my mosfet plate, 1mm for my vram heatsink, and 2mm for my backplate. Take photos, record positions before removing components, be very very careful inside of your GPU. I would also recommend 99.7% scientific grade rubbing alcohol and arctic silver 5 thermal grease, as well as an m.2/m.3 gpu screw kit from eBay. I invested a good $200 in high quality tooling and materials before I started, and the output is grand. It dropped me from high 70s, to mid 60s on the kawpow algorithm, which is more intense than ethash by default, with my highest temp recorded on a refurbished card at 68, completely eliminating long-term thermal runaway.
One of my cards WAS a gigabyte. I flipped it for another r9-390x, actually. They do suck, and under heavy thermal load, the backplate warps. I ran into this issue long-term with an AMD RX580 gigabyte, and a GTX1080 gigabyte, both backplates warped, and they began overheating again. Once that happens, its a repeat disassembly and rebending process that far outweighs keeping the card around and I would not recommend Gigabyte, even with a modded thermal pad, the build quality sucks in general because of the backplate warping issue. The only thing seriously worth getting a gigabyte over, is if you're actually using them to game, and want to put a nonref ekwb on them, water cooled, which eliminates the need to use their shitty backplate, fan shrouds or cooling hardware anyhow.
MSI and ASUS are the best for air cooling for miners. Followed by Gigabyte, then EVGA at the top in performance when watercooling for gamers. Water cooling as a miner is usually really impractical because maintenance on a custom loop is a pita in a mining rig. (and maintenance is recommended once a month) Even with disconnect sockets on your PETG, its still a pain. I can get low 60s with water cooling, and I have with a soft PETG+EKWB+Bitspower+D5 high flow test, but its not even worth the price tag because of the maintenance just to drop to 57 degrees while mining and have all that humidity venting into your ambient. You need basically a radiator wall and a huge fan array to dissipate the amount of heat coming off of 9-12 cards efficiently. I stacked three XSPC 380mm rads to do that task, hated it because it was turning my shed into tropical paradise, ended up putting the fan shrouds back on.
If you seriously want to try it out, though, you can get avg. 62 on kawpow by having the cards and risers in STE mineral oil in a filtered/circulating fish tank. No fan shrouds needed and you don't have to give a shit about shitty backplates, shrouds, or thermal pads at all. Just keeping a fish tank filter clean and preventing crystalization of the mineral oil on components. No more than 5 cards at a time per tank, or the accumulated heat wil make the oil boil at its low boiling point, which is bad, because its conductive when it boils. I got avg. 62 with a 5 card test in a fish tank full of STE, and its cheaper than watercooling. The cards I find on ebay with working PCB whose fan shrouds can't be rescued get dumped in my fish tank.
Bro I think you're awesome, thank you for always making good content
The best tech tips in the market !!
Awesome worked perfect. Thanks for the video.
Amazingly useful video, thank you so much
Asus Support told me id have to RMA my card to get the thermal pads replaced otherwise I'd void my warranty. These pads saved me so much money and headache. Thanks for the reassurance that these are good.
Thank you so much mate, appreciated!
I’ll know I need this how to down the line thank you for the education my friend 😇🚀😇
Freaking amazing dude !
When measuring the used pads, is it ok to error on the side of caution, and use a pad .5mm larger? Similarly, is it even bad in general, to use pads .5mm thicker than the stock ones? Thanks great vid!
Your one hell of a guy, not to call out other TH-camrs in the genre of mining but a lot of those guys just show us what they have and how cool it is, your very noob friendly and give great tutorials
It’s the Gigabyte Aorus 3080 !! Awesome cooling on this beast. Thx for sharing
Excellent video .
You didn't show the most important piece: Memory Junction Temperature AFTER installing thermal pads....what are you running at now? 100C+ ?
Drops it about 23-25c :)
If you use high quality thermal pads (12 w/mk+) you'll see a huge drop in temperatures. The stock Gigabyte thermalpads are like 1-3 wm/k at best and leak oil everywhere. Definitely worth replacing. Keep in mind that different RTX 3080 models are going to need different thermal pad sizes.
@@DantalionVR indeed, both my 3080's are from Gigabyte and both were drenched with Oil on and around the original pads, cant understand why they had to use the cheapest shit they could find and slap in on the card
@@Goldstar1337 "It's business"
@@Goldstar1337 BS
Honestly this is the video I needed, my Vram temps on my 3080 Aorus Master is thermal throttling , hopefully this works! Thank you for the information and work to make this video
This applies to all gigabyte cards. Also some msi cards except suprim x from what I know. I got a suprim x 3090 and the backplate get 60 degrees celsius hot so I'm pretty sure it does transfer the heat away. Sadly my average temps for vram is around 96 celsius at about 124 MH/s. I could decrease it to 92-94 by lowering the MH to 110-115 but it doesn't seem to be worth it. Since therm throttling is at 110 I would say 96 stable is relatively fine. I got a 3 year warranty and if I open the card up (in Europe) I will lose my warranty so that's a no go.
@@alexandruilea915 I have a MSI 3090 Suprim X too, as well as a Palit 3090 GamingPro OC. While the Suprim X is pretty good, to my surprise the Palit GamingPro manages 4-6*C lower VRAM temps under the same test conditions. I thought it would be the other way around. Not to mention it's a much more compact card, the same size as my 1080 Ti Founders Edition so it fits even in smaller cases. It doesn't even need the support bracket that comes with it while I had to use one for the Suprim X since it's so heavy and bulky. I am pretty impressed with the Palit 3090 GamingPro OC.
@@bgtubber same fan speed and noice? It could just be that it has a more accelerated fan curve so they spin up faster from lower temps.
@@alexandruilea915 Yes, at same fan RPMs and noise. The Palit only gets noisier than the Suprim X when the fan speed is higher than 65% but it beats it in VRAM temps even then at equal fan RPMs.
@@bgtubber the suprim only gets really noisy after 75% so that's what I would consider audible.
Insane how the Gelid 3mm thermalpads seem to be completely sold out all over Europe
Great Vid. I just replaced my aorus 3080 master with iceberg 2mm thermal pad. My mem OC is 1500Mhz and fan spinning at 85% and the memory junction temperature is 86-88c
my friend! I have this same GPU... please What is the thickness of each thermal pad that I should place?
@@Ternoski Memory chips and back plate are all 2mm, the rest of the caps and mosfets are 1.5mm.
I just replaced the thermal pads on both my gigabyte 3090s, they where so bad. leaking oil, and the vram temps where always over 100c. I repadded with some 2mm 13w/mk pads and now my vram temps are 82 to 84c while mining. You where spot on about this issue.
fucking awful
You have a Crimson Omen tattoo exactly like mine! Cool! 😎
You're on fire bro!
excelent scissoring skills.
My 3080 dropped from 108c to 94c with some grizzlys, i ordered some gelids ultimate now to see if i could get it down to 88-90 with some smaller mods, summer is coming and most of the home miners will have some really high temps if not prepared
Latest HWiNFO v6.42 added the memory junction temp sensor for the 3080 and 3090. Wonder what your VRAM temps are now at different OC values.
Thank you!
Thank you ❤️
Gotta say the irony of running phoenix minor 😓🙏🏽
Great instruction. BTW, did you watch the VRAM T-junction temp? This is the one temp that should bother all of us with those powerfull Nvidia cards most.Unfortunately, this temperature is most often 10-15 degrees centigrades higher than the GPU temp. Most likely, your new thermal pads will have solved that issue.
Good video btw♥
A question: How often should we changes the thermal pads?
the paste usually needs to be replaced before pads. So you end up doing pads at the same time. Simply monitor performance and change out if hot. Maybe a 6 month schedule if mining to bulk replace on rigs. I usually schedule it based on install date so I'm not doing all of them at the same time.
You only need 1.5mm and 1mm pads for the 3080 Master/Xtreme. Stack them on top to get all sizes. There is one 0.5mm pad, but you can leave it stock. Backplate 2.5mm everything, except core is 1mm. Main vram chips 1.5mm by the die. 2mm and 2.5mm lifts the heatsink so you get increased core temps. Most sizes are 1.5mm, so have the most of that. I've used thermalright odyssey 12.8 w/mk pads. got 120x120mm 1x with 1.5mm and 1x 120x120 1mm. This was just enough for every pad pretty much except one 0.5mm for something insignificant. Aorus master. Now I get 103 mhash with 90c and 1.5k rpm fans.
Thank you for the info. I have the Aorus Master and really been wanting to replace the shit pads.
Got any links to the specific ones you purchased? Tried looked on amazon for the ones you mentioned but there's a whole bunch of them.
Exactly man. Thank you for advice. I did it. Aorus Extreme RTX 3080 rev 1.0. Thermalright Odyssey 12.8w pads 2mm on the mem chips, under backplate 1mm core, other backplate somewhere 2.5-3mm pads. Mem T junction before 110°C with thermal throttling,gpu temp 51, after -mem T junction 78°C, gpu 58 (with more past on gpu chip because 2mm pads are to much). I used 2x1mm pads temporarily. In future i will use 1.5 mm on the mem chips. Interesting is also, that for my card are 6w pads on the memory chips totally useless. Temp memory raised again to 110°C. It doesn't matter if 1.5 mm, 2mm or brand Arctic or EC360 - 6w pads.
I use two (2) round toothpicks, each cut about 3/4 length leaving just one (1) pointy end, place each in opposite/diagonally screw holes of the four (4) of the front (core) side , then slowly lower the cooler/fans portion down over the pointy end of the toothpicks until lightly seated, then insert two (2) screws into the open holes and lightly screw them in (DO NOT tighten just yet), pull out the two (2) toothpicks, insert the remaining two (2) screws and lightly screw them in, REMEMBER: " alternately " tighten all four (4) screws.. doing this may take a little longer BUT helps to keep boards aligned and reduce "the sliding effect" especially for the thermal pads.
Weird, this was like a year ago. You’re my go-to at large in the space for info. When 4000 comes out though, do some throwback tear down stuff like this if possible. Appreciate the crypto news and follow you for it, but do like the tech side as well.
my gigabyte Rtx 3080 does 72mh/s, core temp is 40, Vram overheat problem probably the pads.
thx for the video bro.
Great video
Thanks man just ran 3dmark much better results now
Great video bro!! @sonofatech do you have any videos talking about the software that you was just using in the video? Thank you sir!! 👍💯
I was always wondering. Say you need 2mm thick pads but you have 1mm or 0.5mm material, can you "stack" pads to achieve the proper thickness or does this compromise heat continuity? Thanks for the great video. Ive done this with RAM modules where I had to de-skirt then eventually re-skirt a stick to make room for a tower style cpu cooler, worked great.
@Fifty Dinar I was thinking about the extra layers of adhesive insulating the heat from passing on to one another causing inefficiencies. If air is the issue, wouldn't a couple pin holes through the pads work? Sorry for looking a gift horse in the mouth. 😬 thanks again.
I replaced the Thermalpads on my 3080 Gaming OC, the Memory Junction temperature went from 110c to 80c. I used the Thermalpad Thermalright 2mm on both sides and kryonaut on the GPU.
2mm on both front an back? And all the small pads on the front around the heatsink? Can you confirm that please, I have to order out of country so I wanna do it right the first try. Thx!
@@LumenEtTempus 2mm front and back for GDDR6x only.
@@rafaelribeiro5771 Thanks
I bought this and Frosty Ice Cube Plus Thermal Pad - 12.8 W/mK from Amazon. Both have the same temps, but at 40% of the price of thermal rights.
how many packs did you use bro?
very helpfull video :D
hey buddy...thanks for the video. Quick question. I have the same Aorus Master RTX 3080. Are you sure that at the backplate, the size over the core is 2mm ? The stock one was 1mm.
Seems all manufacturers use EXTREMELY poor quality thermal pads for the 3080's.
I did my Gigabyte 3080 Gaming OC, and junction temps whilst mining dropped from 104c to 84c without fans, 74c with fans at 100%.. +1050 to the memory OC.
You read my mind on stuff like this. I tried to do this on mine and it didn’t work so I sold it to a non miner. it’s possible I could have needed to replace the super oil ones that’s were leaking, I only added to the back like panda.
Gigabyte RTX 3080Ti mining on NiceHash:
Before:
60MH/s, 200W, VRAM=90C
After GELID 2mm and 3mm pads:
60MH/s, 200W, VRAM=70C
LHR'ed at 60MH, but it shows the 20C temp improvement.
Conclusion = OEM thermal pads suck!
Thanks for the video!
I recommend trying TG-PP-10 thermal putty or K5 Pro instead of thermal pads. I've had good results with both (K5 Pro is more "gooey" than the TG-PP-10)
Where can you get the putty?
@@SonofaTech You can get the TG-PP-10 from Digikey and the K5 Pro from Ebay
Thanks been researching this
Good video
Why have miners not constructed a spreadsheet or google doc with a list of GPU models and their thermal pad thicknesses? Has nobody done such a thing? I have a mix of cards and can't seem to find anyone online who can tell me the pad thickness.
Awesome stuff dude. Nice advise. Could you please do a more in depth video on how to get into ethereum mining on Win 10. As always keep up the great work and hive a nice day.
there is a whole walkthrough anything specific?
Finally man, way to go wow..... so sad such an expensive gpu needing that kind of job and time. Final OC would put you near 97-98 mh/s once you play with the core and lower the power.
Easy 100.9 @ 155watts which i am running my 3080 at :)
@@Goldstar1337 that's a great performance
@@abusadoruci Yep, the key is undervolting them, it drops the power usage and heat significantly, my Gigabyte 3080 Phantom does 61c degrees Memory junction @ 100% load, 29c at the core, running 46% PL at it :) i think i was really Lucky with that particular card :)
@@Goldstar1337 silicone lottery ... I do under volt but none of my GPUs do 100mh/s @ 220w or less
@@abusadoruci Yep i won the lottery on that card, which 3080's do you run? My Aorus 3080 Master was NOT my best friend until i swapped the pads, dropped 25c with that and was able to run higher mem at +1300 with no issues
Thanks do much for this video, what did you use to clean the old gunk out? 99% alcohol isopropyl? Thank you for your time.
Electric contact cleaner gets it done. Blow with some air when clean
just use a steel straight edge between components to determine which is highest and lowest and what pad thicknesses would be appropriate for even coverage.
Great idea, thanks.
Your lighting and background make you look like a ghost 👻
I didn't think I'd need different sized pads 😭
For real ?
You can just cut them
Maybe this is a dumb question but when or how do you know you need to replace the thermal pads. Also, I saw somewhere that they would send the card out to be cleaned. Would that be in line with replacing the pads? Thanks for the great video as Im just getting started and trying to learn as much as possible.
Check your temps. Theres core sensor, vram sensor and hotspot sensor usually on a card. Ive for example noticed my hotspot temps be very hot to the point of my gpu crashing. Even though my core temp and vram temps were fine.
thx man
woohoo, 2 HowTooo in one day?
Just did a Pads & Paste on the ole 270x. Crunchy OG paste _no bueno_
Seeing air between sink & ram on 1030.. looks like I'm gonna be doin some more Pad N Paste. Oddly, they got the vrms with Sink, but not the mem
Mine had a 4th cable at the top and I couldn't get it to access the back plate so I just swapped out the PCB pads and it runs great now. Would not recommend trying to take it apart if you have big sausage fingers
bro, you did an amazing video. As I have watched the video you posted on changing the thermal pads on your Aorus I did the same thing with my Gigabyte 3080 Gaming OC. Nevertheless, now the cards show stable MH/s, but the Autofan option on HiveOS isn’t working, do you have the same issue? and the backplate is extremely hot....
Just got 2 gtx 480's for $80 that both work so hopefully changing the pads will help them beceuse i just took them apart and they had the stock nvidia paste lol. Ik they run hot anyway but i hope redoing the pads will help
Regressing will definitely help!
Is there any guide related to mm of thickness of the pads according the manufacturer and the kind of the GPUs ??
you can look up some of the manufators scematics for the card and that should tell you which thickness but some of them I haven't been able to find so just measured.
What did your memory temps drop to? also what pads did you use? 2mm on memory and 1 on everything else?
How are we gonna find factory grade pads to replace the original ones?
Great success!
so finally the max OC done to the master ? can you put the msi oc settings here of the master? and also de hashrate? thanks bro!
so interesting question...is there like a "break in" for thermal pads?
Nope, plug & play :)
How can you do this without voiding warranty?
i see you have thermalrite and gelid on that table of yours but you linked the generic ones?
Thank you for sharing. Any idea what thickness MSI rtx 2060 uses? I don't want to deinstall my card twice. So I want to order the pads upfront and am ready to get the pads changed instantly.
Hello, I put it only in the back of 3mm, but I did not manage to lower the fan, now it mine at 97 mhs without throttling but I do not achieve that the fan in autoamtico goes down 100%, and if I manually reduce it, lower the power, for example if I put the fan at 50%, mine at 50mhs :(
Does the fan lower you 100% with the change of the factory pads?
HOLY what a beast ahahahaha GPUs are so big now its great.
Would dust or dirt hinder thermal pad performance? Just recently reinstalled my gpu cooler and the pads are dirty covered in fluff and dust
Could this used on the outside of a camera to help when shooting high resolution? 🧐
Hi Son of a Tech,
You are an absolute legend sir.
I have a bunch of 6700xt two of them are gigabyte eagle and I have to run them on 90-100% fan as they are generally 20 degrees hotter on the memory compared to my MSI mech and Asus duals. I cant wait to get my pads and change them.
I have a new Gigabyte RTX 3080 Gaming OC, same as Red panda's showed on his video some weeks ago, but as his mine doesn't have thermal pads on the capacitors, it does on the memory modules and its nearest transistors (1.5mm thick). Is it recommended to add some new ones over the capacitors too?
Would like to know as well! I have the same cards and planning on replacing 2mm inside and 3mm between memory and backplate
Hello how much is thermal conductivity of pads you have used?
What size (1mm, 2mm, 3mm?) of thermo pads should I buy fot Gigabyte rtx 3060? Thanks!
What brand would you recommend?
Undertaker in action. 👍👍💕💕
i wouldl like to ask a dummy question. Can we use instead of pads, theralpaste all over the place with better results??
Could you use extra thermal pads to try and muffle coil whine?
...I never cared much for the blue pads, they don't seem to have any that have very good W/mk but the ones you put in the desc were the best I've seen at 6w/mk, which isn't that great. Right next to them there was a listing for some grey thermalright pads that were 12.8 W/mk for a dollar more, they looked real good...
I know this is an old comment, but for anyone reading, check this brand out on Amazon. It's at 40% of the price of most of the others: Frosty Ice Cube Plus Thermal Pad - 12.8 W/mK. I dropped my temps to almost an identical amount and its the dark gray color.
I did this but I used a different thermal paste. some generic one and im not sure if its causing the issue but my gpu temp went up to 85~ while mining. which is weird because the memory temp went down
Should I just place the pads on the memore without any kind of adhesive/glue ? Im afraid they will slide over when I screw back the backplate