Very true. Squats and deadlifts are great exercises for health and overall body strength but no doubt machines and other safer exercises allow you to get to total muscular failure
Exactly. Squats and deadlifts are great exercises no doubt however if the goal is to build as much muscle as fast as possible machines are your best bet. LFG bro!
Yeah for sure. When we had the cov shut down I had to train with only a BB at home , so for legs I did squats, RDL's and lunges. There still better than nothing obviously, but if we assume we have access to a fully euquipt gym I'd go with machines over squats any day of the week!
There's also the fact that most squats you will do with a barbell are extension squats, where you arch your back in some fashion. And while this is good for building strength you need to also squat with a neutral or even curved over back to help align your body. You can't do those with a lot of weight or any weight. They become bodyweight exercises. Then throw in that most people including myself can't hold a horse stance you start to see that if squats are your thing you may not have the supporting muscles to really help build your legs. Only certain people with certain body proportions can benefit from deep squats with a neutral back. Sure keep doing them if you like them but to build legs a lot of people will benefit from presses and curls as well or instead.
@@michaelcorbett4236 very true and good point. Some people can't even perform 'text book' squats. Even if you can you still may not get the most out of them when it comes to effficient muscle growth
Good video. Short of competitive barbell sports or if all you have is a bar and a rack, there is no NEED for anyone to barbell squat. It's a dinosaur from a bygone era.
Ive been thinking about completely ditching sqauts in my workout. ALWAYS felt insane lower back pressure. Just recently I think I pinched a nerve so now it's just pain thats lasts 2 weeks if I go really hard on squats. Switched to Leg press and it's great stimulation without the added risk. I Usually do Leg Press followed by Hamstring curls and Leg Extensions. What do you do for leg day besides Leg Press for good quad stimulation. Lastly, what are your thoughts on not doing any deadlifts when it comes to back workouts.
@@ParadiseArcadia Definetly keep it that way brother! There are NO exercises you must do. If your lower back is the limiting factor on squats don't do them. When it comes to quads you can do leg press and leg ext. as you mentioned + I like to do unilateral legs press for quads and adductors. Lunges or Bulgarian split squats also great for quads No deadlifts also not a must. yes they build thickness but also hit your hams, quads and glutesy there's an argument to do deads on a legday even.If you want to build thickness that way I'd recommend Rackpull the bar right under your kneecap. that way you have less engaging of your legs, still a little bit glutes and hams but primarily traps, erector, rhomboids and lats. also I put them at the end of my back day when my back is already full pumped to have a better feel Hope that helps brother!
@@lars.langen Thank you so much for all that info and tips! Gotta try that rackpull you mentioned. I was going to ask exactly that as I also feel a lot of lower back pressure and pinched nerves a couple of times during the years.
@@marcust478 you wanne be careful bro. Rackpulls are hard on your erector/lower back. However, these issues may come from having a weaker lower back compared to your other muscle. When I go heavy on rackpulls 4plates+ per side I also use a belt pulling that super tight, that will save you from i juries. Bjt I suggest going 6+ reps and not below that
@@lars.langen Right. I'm gonna try it today and use the belt as you advised. I think my main problem was not getting enough rest and doing too much exercises that end up using the lower back. But I'll invest on alternatives. I got worried after last time. The pinched nerve took basically 4 weeks to heal. I did squat again afterwards, but with much less weight than I'm used too and less sets. Still, not feeling that I'm going forward so I'd rather seek alternatives that are safer. Thank you again! I'll get back to you after trying the rackpull.
@@marcust478 Yeah pulling a nerve definetly sucks, can happen any time though, I did it once doing shoulder presses. Having a belt will definetly help, however you also don't want to use one with every exercise, you still want your core and erectors to engage. I'd kill the squats for now and do other exercises for legs instead, and yes give the rackpulls a try brother🫡 If you want me to critique your form you can also send me a recording on your lifts over at IG @lars.langen LFG🔥🔥
Oh I forgot bodybuilding is all about looking cool in the gym and not about building muscle my bad. I much rather do 30 sets of squats looking fly af instead of actually making any gains lol
@horstweihrauch1 dorian Yates only used machines for legs because he realised squats are not optimal for leg growth if you're a bodybuilder, my legs have got bigger since I stopped squatting
@@sammuslu2992 Agree! If we're being honest squats are less of a leg exercise anyways but more so an exercise to grow your glutes. The glutes carry much more of the load compared to the squats or hams. For girls squats can be very beneficial, however if we're talking about building big legs, squats are not the most effecient nor effective way to get you there!
Very true. Squats and deadlifts are great exercises for health and overall body strength but no doubt machines and other safer exercises allow you to get to total muscular failure
Exactly. Squats and deadlifts are great exercises no doubt however if the goal is to build as much muscle as fast as possible machines are your best bet. LFG bro!
I don't squat anymore yet my legs got bigger doing machine work instead 😅
@@sammuslu2992 There you go! Keep that shit up brother💪
Unless you do not have access to leg machines in which case squats are the way to go.
Yeah for sure. When we had the cov shut down I had to train with only a BB at home , so for legs I did squats, RDL's and lunges. There still better than nothing obviously, but if we assume we have access to a fully euquipt gym I'd go with machines over squats any day of the week!
There's also the fact that most squats you will do with a barbell are extension squats, where you arch your back in some fashion. And while this is good for building strength you need to also squat with a neutral or even curved over back to help align your body. You can't do those with a lot of weight or any weight. They become bodyweight exercises. Then throw in that most people including myself can't hold a horse stance you start to see that if squats are your thing you may not have the supporting muscles to really help build your legs. Only certain people with certain body proportions can benefit from deep squats with a neutral back. Sure keep doing them if you like them but to build legs a lot of people will benefit from presses and curls as well or instead.
@@michaelcorbett4236 very true and good point. Some people can't even perform 'text book' squats. Even if you can you still may not get the most out of them when it comes to effficient muscle growth
Good video. Short of competitive barbell sports or if all you have is a bar and a rack, there is no NEED for anyone to barbell squat. It's a dinosaur from a bygone era.
@@vancemcnulty8242 Agree brother!💯
Ive been thinking about completely ditching sqauts in my workout. ALWAYS felt insane lower back pressure. Just recently I think I pinched a nerve so now it's just pain thats lasts 2 weeks if I go really hard on squats.
Switched to Leg press and it's great stimulation without the added risk.
I Usually do Leg Press followed by Hamstring curls and Leg Extensions. What do you do for leg day besides Leg Press for good quad stimulation.
Lastly, what are your thoughts on not doing any deadlifts when it comes to back workouts.
@@ParadiseArcadia Definetly keep it that way brother! There are NO exercises you must do. If your lower back is the limiting factor on squats don't do them.
When it comes to quads you can do leg press and leg ext. as you mentioned + I like to do unilateral legs press for quads and adductors. Lunges or Bulgarian split squats also great for quads
No deadlifts also not a must. yes they build thickness but also hit your hams, quads and glutesy there's an argument to do deads on a legday even.If you want to build thickness that way I'd recommend Rackpull the bar right under your kneecap. that way you have less engaging of your legs, still a little bit glutes and hams but primarily traps, erector, rhomboids and lats. also I put them at the end of my back day when my back is already full pumped to have a better feel
Hope that helps brother!
@@lars.langen Thank you so much for all that info and tips!
Gotta try that rackpull you mentioned.
I was going to ask exactly that as I also feel a lot of lower back pressure and pinched nerves a couple of times during the years.
@@marcust478 you wanne be careful bro. Rackpulls are hard on your erector/lower back. However, these issues may come from having a weaker lower back compared to your other muscle. When I go heavy on rackpulls 4plates+ per side I also use a belt pulling that super tight, that will save you from i juries. Bjt I suggest going 6+ reps and not below that
@@lars.langen Right. I'm gonna try it today and use the belt as you advised.
I think my main problem was not getting enough rest and doing too much exercises that end up using the lower back.
But I'll invest on alternatives.
I got worried after last time.
The pinched nerve took basically 4 weeks to heal.
I did squat again afterwards, but with much less weight than I'm used too and less sets.
Still, not feeling that I'm going forward so I'd rather seek alternatives that are safer.
Thank you again!
I'll get back to you after trying the rackpull.
@@marcust478 Yeah pulling a nerve definetly sucks, can happen any time though, I did it once doing shoulder presses. Having a belt will definetly help, however you also don't want to use one with every exercise, you still want your core and erectors to engage.
I'd kill the squats for now and do other exercises for legs instead, and yes give the rackpulls a try brother🫡 If you want me to critique your form you can also send me a recording on your lifts over at IG @lars.langen
LFG🔥🔥
legs only from machines is embarrassing
Oh I forgot bodybuilding is all about looking cool in the gym and not about building muscle my bad. I much rather do 30 sets of squats looking fly af instead of actually making any gains lol
So must be even more embarrassing how his legs are twice as big as yours from doing machines only. 😂
@@Therealdudeman lol😂
@horstweihrauch1 dorian Yates only used machines for legs because he realised squats are not optimal for leg growth if you're a bodybuilder, my legs have got bigger since I stopped squatting
@@sammuslu2992 Agree! If we're being honest squats are less of a leg exercise anyways but more so an exercise to grow your glutes. The glutes carry much more of the load compared to the squats or hams. For girls squats can be very beneficial, however if we're talking about building big legs, squats are not the most effecient nor effective way to get you there!