It could be that she comes from a family dynamic and culture, where if she wasn't addicted to the gym grind, she would be binge drinking, binge eating, sitting on a couch all day watching TV and becoming diabetic, and getting heart disease anyway. Obviously it's not giving her 'longevity' but in her mind, she might see that she's living a better life relatively than she would be. We all have our own path and personal demons.
No talk about losing hair, growing facial, body hair, heart enlargement and much more. No judgement, but very deceiving video for those impulsive that are thinking about jumping on the gear and all that other crazy stuff. Do your research like they said, ladies.
I was thinking the same liver damage, atrophy of the uterus, immune system damage along with all the symptoms that you already listed. People willing to deceive themselves.
Yup, I did numerous cycles in my 20's and I'm dealing with heart issues into my 40's. IMO it was a combination of steroids and the numerous pre-workout supplements I used over a long period of time.
@@dangelo1369Terrible argument that has literally nothing to do with the comment. OP was talking about how the video doesn't mention the critical downsides of using steroids.
I wish they would’ve touched on if they get their periods, have excessive hair growth, suffer mood swings, anxiety or depression and less obvious symptoms to the public. I have naturally high testosterone and I suffered irregular periods, depression, mood swings, thick and excessive hair growth, my disorder put me at risk for fertility issues, etc. I’m on birth control to regulate my hormones and have more natural female hormone production now so my symptoms have lessened.
@@TyeMitchell-s5syes that's the most obvious side effect a life altering side effect for these misguided women, they have lost the ability to have children.
I know a female that randomly became ifbb pro out of nowhere. If they’re looking to build a career In Fitness and being an influencer, I think it’s the quickest way as a female
This video is essentially full of women that are transitioning into men or they are men pretending to be women. It's hard to keep straight unless you keep looking for adam's apples.
Feels like he had no video after the first 30 seconds where everyone just admitted it then spent the next 10 minutes just asking general interview questions and telling people not to judge them for being on gear
Respectfully some of these women are delusional, one girl saying that if a guy doesn't like super jacked women it must mean they're insecure, another one saying that she feels like bodybuilding has given her longevity...
It's especially delusional if you consider the opposite. Many women don't like super jacked men. In fact the majority don't (jeff nippples got a video on it). So to imply that the opposite makes the man insecure is some preposterous delusion. It's just plain and simple preference. Most people are attracted to non abnormally large other people hence why it's the norm.
The voice change is irreversible. Once it happens, even if you never take steroids again, it won't change back. The psychological effect of that is strong.
and she sounds insecure by saying that if men dont like jacked women, they are just insecure. no, most men are not insecure, they are just attracted to feminine features which steroids slowly eliminate
She probably thinks she's a man lol. It's healthy for a man to be around 10% bf, that's where you get your highest levels of testosterone. But for women 😬💀
A man that doesn't like a mucsular woman doesn't make them insecure. I would rather not have my GF have a body of a muscular man. Your preferences don't make you insecure.
Agreed. I also thought it was weird when I heard it. It's just not biologically attractive to most men, just like a morbidly obese woman would not be attractive for most men.
It doesn't make you insecure just because you aren't attracted to a certain body type. If she isn't attracted to obese men is she insecure? Edit: I do like the overall message of the video though, there is no need to judge others, let's all live our best lives.
Yea that was so dumb. Anyone can say that about anything. You can't gaslight people into being attracted to you. Accept it. Heterosexual men like women. Hypermuscularity and manly traits are not womanly. Deal with it.
@@Chickenwingsinthedings True but it's also their body so they get to decide that and not anyone else. It's not like they're hurting others by destroying their own body.
Im a natty female bodybuilder. I have to confirm - It's much harder for is to build muscle, but it's not impossible. I think I'll stay natty, and be determined!
@@Beeti1 Negative is subjective, we mean side effects in general. They are going on a full blown trans gender protocol, minus changing thier actual identity.
@@Beeti1 This is what I thought! If some wizard turned me into a chick I would not care how I sounded lol, I'd just want to get the strength. I feel so bad for women how judged they are on everything. I wouldn't GAF. A deeper voice has no negative effect on health.
My opinion - steroids shouldn’t be in bodybuilding period. It shouldn’t be glorified due to the medical risks and complications that come with it. There’s been too many deaths. I never been a big fan of female bodybuilding or bikini competitions, either they overly bulk to the point they no longer look feminine or they starve themselves to be under weight. I understand there need to be weight classes and expectations but it shouldn’t be okay to advocate self harm.
"Natural bodybuilding" is part of "bodybuilding", so it is NOT the standard. Now when you go to the elite athletes - there illegal drugs are standard in almost any sport. And how would you describe "making weight" in the combat sports? You think there is a heavywheight champion in MMA without anabolic steroids?
It took a ton of courage for that woman to explain the issue with incontinence. That's DEDICATION to outing the issues and trying to warn other girls. She seriously took one for the team. We got u girl! Any woman who has physically given birth, knows ALL about a little incontinence 😂 my youngest is 15, and only recently have been able to laugh, cough, or sneezing without being terrified I was going to wet my pants😂❤
I laughed way too hard at this comment, mostly because you're right. Though, not for nothing, I'm bis3xual and not finding any of the roided up women attractive.
From my point of view, the most bad side effect of taking steroids for women is the change in their face. I mean this extreme sharpness of the facial features. I guess it depends on the quantity and the type of steroids because it's not present in all of them. It seems this effect occurs in both men and women but to me, it's more devastating for women because they possess more facial natural beauty.
Objectively the worst side effects from steroids are the organ problems and (sometimes) severe anxiety. I see what you mean though, the change in face is probably the worst visual side effect.
There's muscular and then there's abusing steriods muscular (along with masculine facial features) I like a natural woman who lifts weights someone like LeanBeefPatty for example
That woman who claims that men are insecure if they don't find female bodybuilders attractive has a biased opinion. A muscular body amped up on PED's isn't going to look particulary femenine. Men are in general attracted to softer bodies with curves. It's not easy what they are doing, it's probably harder for women because they face more stigma and they sort of lose their gender with that body transformation where as men only seem to enhance their gender status in becoming big and strong.
Same as men, the fact that a deeper voice and a squared inflated face seems more normal in a man doesn't change that is the exact same fckd up stuff... just saying
She is actually not a doctor. From the information I could find she has been a doctorate student for the past 9 years. Seems more like she is just another "coach".
This “expert” is also not giving a full, unbiased view of female steroid use. She is only talking about it in terms of social constructivism. This ignore most if not all of the physical side effects. Bad “expert”.
Just goes to show, as with most things, there is a large variation between individuals. Some guys just have a natural baritone voice. Some are higher like Jesse. Same for ladies. Its just the average skewing one way or the other.
PS: Doctoral researcher is not an actual title. She is a doctoral candidate that is engaging in research - the former implies that she has completed her PhD
Doctoral researcher = Doctoral Canditate That Is Engaging In Research? Okay. Noted. Seems almost more concise to use in a video. Could have said "PhD Researcher" or "Research Scientist" instead. Splitting hairs it feels like.
This correction is not accurate. The term 'doctoral researcher' is a widely accepted descriptive term, particularly in the UK and Europe. It serves as an umbrella term encompassing both Ph.D. students and Ph.D. candidates, regardless of their stage of progression. Contrary to your suggestion, 'doctoral researcher' explicitly implies that the Ph.D. has not yet been completed. Also, doctoral researcher says something more about someone than "PhD. student".
@@Raztin1-tl6gi That is not standard convention in North America. It is not an officially recognized term or title. Even in Europe, that is not a commonly used title. Source: I am a professor at a major Canadian University. You can simply google the term and find the out that it is not standard practice to describe yourself as a doctoral researcher.
I come from track & field and I'm from Europe. I assure you that in most sport environments outside of fitness and bodybuilding steroids are seen very very badly and juiced people are considered like despicable cheaters (and they are, at least in most sport). It's the fitness & bb community that has completely skewed perception and unfortunately they're becoming increasingly popular in the later years.
@@gregoriomiller8241 yes it should, there are natural limits to the human body, and we should accept those boundaries, not demolish them by modifying our own bodies, when it doesn't even make you look "better", it's simply unhealthy and unnecessary. if competitions didn't allow steroids, people could simply compete naturally, everyone would have equal chances, and not need to spend a fortune on this shit. using a LITTLE steroids just for faster gains is a bit more acceptable, as long as it has almost 0 side effects, but that's just for personal use, not for competitions
I found it seriously annoying. I prefer missing out on parts of the video rather than sit through even one second of adds, if I can avoid it, so I just fast forwarded until that crap was over.
How does it affect women? It transitions them into men without the equipment. Its not insecure for a man not to be attracted to nearly another man. At the same time, it's their lives so if that's what they want to do with it and damn the consequences, I admire their commitment to it.
I don't think I heard any of the women in this video saying men are insecure for not being attracted to full on bodybuilder women, they only said this in regard to people sending them unnecessary, insensitive or rude comments.
As someone who knows absolutely nothing about steroids I'm confused how these women have such extremely obvious side effects to their face, voice and general masculine appearance ----- yet Vladislava Galagan is crazy jacked but still has a super feminine face. Why is that?
Comes down to the kind of steroids they're using and genetics. Different steroids virilize differently. Some people are also just not that sensitive to virilization so they end up getting less side effects.
Galagan has not all the obvious side effects showing.....yet! Give it some more years of abuse to make its work of "transforming magic" and you shall see. In addition to that her voice is often on the lower side. Wonder how it sounded pre steroid use.
PSA: A man not being attracted to a female body builder is not insecurity it’s called a preference, and a very common one at that. People tend to not like extreme body types. Plenty of women do not find male body builders attractive either.
literally… i’ve never been attracted to extremely muscular bodies or big mass in general 🤷🏼♀️ super “manly men” appearance is unattractive to me it’s just preference !!!
Literally!! many women dont like shorts guys, that doesn't make them insecure, lol. its just a preference. these people want us to not even have that, lmao😂
Well when u think about it, it’s for their own ego. But I don’t shame them for that. I want to lose weight and be a bit more muscular for my own confidence and for male attention.
@@Pero-zl4jp i find it weird to compare not liking skinny guys to not liking jacked roided up women. the comparison is drastically different and it sounds like you're saying you have to be abnormal to not like jacked girls... its pretty normal to not like skinny guys, or not like fat guys, etc... but it is absolutely strange if you like women that are roided up with little penis cl*ts and deep voice etc... there's nothing wrong with being strange but this comparison is too different. it would make more sense to me to compare it to some girls liking morbidly obese guys or getting pooped and peed on, and some guys liking super jacked women... lol
@@Pero-zl4jp Ehhh, one's more natural and normal. girls who don't like skinny guys, normal.... men who are straight that like muscular women that have higher T levels than them, not so much.
You can get jacked af on some low dose relatively safe sarms, these people willingly shaving 10-15+ years off their life with hardcore gear are the definition of self-absorbed idiocy.
10-15? LOL I know people that died in their early 40s. Everyone else was having heart attacks and open heart surgery at 30 years old. It's closer to 40-50 years off your life.
I'd rather take a 200mg test per week than liver toxic sarms that we know fak all about and the long term side effects, sarm are real shit you don't really know what you're putting into your body compared to pharma grade tests,bro you whack af respectfully of course
7:37 "It makes mainstream very uncomfortable, because the female is very strong." Leanbeafpatty is the biggest counter point, they must not sound like Freyza and look still recognizably female.
Leanbeafpatty is natural though. they were talking about women on steroids being less accepted than men on steroids. neither should really be normalized though.
"You only live once, so don't judge." Excuse me? No. "You only live once, so judge righteously." That's better. Steroid use shouldn't be accepted for either men or women. We're congratulating people into an early grave. Let's not forget that.
It's a risk that's worth it for some people just like any decision. Should motorcycles not be accepted? What about skydiving? Also that risk can be mitigated pretty easily if you are getting your health checked frequently and are reasonable. Remember there's different levels of steroid use, this is the absolute extreme you're seeing in this video.
yeah i dont like that "we let men do it, so let women do it too" like no, working out should be about getting and staying healthy, not about gaining unhealthy amounts of muscle
@@nonculus Working out should be whatever the person working out wants it to be, since it's their body and not ours. People work out for different reasons
4:51 - "Probably because of the misconception test is the male hormone where as both men and women have testosterone" - Yeah that's insane cope. If exogenous test didn't exist women with the highest natural levels with upper level being 70 ng/dL wouldn't come close to the lowest average males test levels of 300 ng/dL.
5:13 - EVEN MORE COPE - "Some men have higher estrogen naturally, does that mean a man is more feminine because their estrogen is more high" - Men with high estrogen typically have really high testosterone that is converting to estrogen if they take steroids which was her first example so NO they wouldn't exhibit more female traits. Men that are natural that have high estrogen also typically MAX have E2 level of 40 pg/mL. A womans natural E2 on the low level typically hovers around 30 pg/mL to 150 pg/mL depending on the stage of her cycle if with an upper of 750pg/mL. So again this is all framing drug use. I'm not even saying women shouldn't take steroids, people can do whatever they want but this is just a bunch of bollocks
Yea I feel like she twisted this because there are women who genuinely have low test, on a range for females, that do need trt at much lower levels but def not at the same dosage as men.
@@MementoVivere. "That do need trt" seems to be the theme these days when actual lifestyle choices are fundamental to the T-levels. At least in men you see levels of Testosterone raise when obese men goes on a diet and lose weight to a normal/somewhat lowish fat percentage. People being fat asses, overeating, sitting on their couch watching Netflix and TH-cam not moving their ass, stresses all day othewize (the modern lifestyle where everything have to be crammed in to a day) and don't take care of their sleep (also being affected by the stress levels to begin with). People, including women, choose the "fast lane", the shortcut, the easiest way out and don't care about long-term consequences. Fix it today, forget about tomorrow. You can easily be in better shape all "naturale" than a person with a bad lifestyle using PED:s. Easily!!!
Exactly. Men have absolutely no problem with strong Women. But they want them to be strong and look like Valentina Shevchenko or Alexa Grasso (Female UFC Champions) and not strong and look like Carrot Top
To sum it up, it is strength and muscle at all costs. Not necessarily insecurity. Nature makes them weak, so they break nature to be strong. Even if it cost their femininity, and possibly years of life. I can somewhat respect that. What I don't respect is one of them calling men insecure for not being attracted to them, given that's just a matter of preference.
@stevenbernfeld6415 Irony, as in getting hit by the ambulance. It's ironic because she is the one who is insecure and is throwing stones from a glass house.
Saying that a man is insecure if he doesn't like women with more muscle than any natural man can get is like saying that a woman not attracted by men with fake tits is insecure.
tbh what i find most amazing and interesting about these female bodybuilders is the fact they look like t-girls, like they have very masculine faces and jaws, to me its not even the bodies but just their voices and faces look like they are trans lol
Handled with supreme respect and sensitivity, Jesse. Well done, sir! I'm curious... When you started this 7-8 years ago, would you ever imagine that you would be conducting these types of interviews backstage at the OLYMPIA! I've been watching for 4 years. I think the fact that you yourself have grown has resulted in the channel growing.
Biggest takeaway from this video… 12:13 , Paul Finebaum in the background, …”look, none of these ladies are on steroids in spite of what they claim, and Bama is the favourite to win the Natty.
Everything that's being said in this video has been going on since the 80s. When women bodybuilders were smaller than today's bikini girls, people had a problem.
Thanks for making those Videos about Steroids, in the fitness scene it is such an present and yet unspoken theme and a lot of natural people in the gym compare themselves to unnatty ones and wonder and get frustrated that they don't get as big as their role models on social media or so, so it is very important that a guy like you enlightens us about the truth.
Sometimes I watch these enhanced females old social media posts before they started the drugs and see a very feminine and beautiful young woman. I always wonder what triggered them to do this. This stuff is much deeper than them wanting to compete.
I mean they live on a planet with men walking around saying stuff like "your body my choice" or "I COULD R word you, but I won't." why wouldn't you want to be strong enough to protect yourself?
@@K.C-2049 I've never heard any men say any of those things. What kind of men are you hanging around? Men can be stupid and say shit like like "man you're hot." but what the f*ck kind of guy tells a girl that he could r*pe her if he wanted to!?
Pues cada uno tiene sus gustos, si a ti te gustan las mujeres musculosas pues bien, pero a mi me gustan las mujeres con su cuerpo natural, sus curvitas etc,,, pero nada de musculo. Gustos son gustos.
They do look like men though, and it's not even because of the muscles. Some women in the Victorian era were absolutely jacked (google it, it's awesome) but they didn't look like men facially. If everyone in this video cut off their hair and took off the makeup, it would be hard to distinguish which ones aren't male. Also, women cannot attain this level of muscle naturally ever, but men can, so it's hard to not make that association, it's like a woman with a full beard.
A fact is many of theese women went through abuse, victims of SA are extremly overepresented amongst female bodybuilders. Probably one of the reasons to get away from femininity. And yes I think that scares many men, because some of theese women are more male than most men. Obviously all that counts about a human is a kind heart, so no offence.
That one woman who said if a guy doesn’t like muscular women he is insecure about himself, i totally disagree. I’m bi, having had serious relationships with both men and women. Personally I am not attracted to female body builders. I don’t find that esthetic attractive. There’s nothing wrong with that. We’re allowed to like what we like and shouldn’t be shamed for not being attracted to some people.
They are probably thinking about health side effects when he's asking , because the voice is very obvious and you can hear it, they don't need to even mention it
I find it interesting how some of them trick themselve in believing that they dont look 'manly' and that it is just our society that makes the world believe that
The best body physique that you should desire is the one built on being natural, if you are taking steroids to look like something that you cannot achieve while being natty should be discouraged, that applies for both men and women
The ending may shock you…
So much respect to these women and the hard work they put in. Subscribe for the road to 10 MIL!!
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I gotta be honest Jesse those are the most shredded women that I’ve ever seen
Jesse unironically had the most high-pitched voice in this entire video O.O
This should be pinned
Not necessarily, he sounds kinda similar to Gohan from Dragon Ball Z
@@Hail54336Which was voiced by a woman at some point 😂😂😂
Yup, and even that feminine doctor has deeper voice, which is very strange since the rest on her is quite feminine.
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Why would it be ironic?
"Have you had any side effects"
*voice deeper than mine*: "No"
lol
😂
Some sound a lot like horse jockys for whatever reason.
Why is it beeped out?
Even the female doctor had a deeper voie than mine when i have a cold.😇
The woman saying that she believes it has given her longevity..
Oh boy..
She has no fat in her face...scary.
She has the squarest most masculine jaw line in the world
It could be that she comes from a family dynamic and culture, where if she wasn't addicted to the gym grind, she would be binge drinking, binge eating, sitting on a couch all day watching TV and becoming diabetic, and getting heart disease anyway. Obviously it's not giving her 'longevity' but in her mind, she might see that she's living a better life relatively than she would be. We all have our own path and personal demons.
@@Lucas_Jeffrey Don't make excuses for other people, especially when you have no idea
Prolly her heart is 20% bigger than the average woman while she speaks 💀
The fact that nobody talks about the book Secret Testosterone Nexus of Evolution, speaks volumes about how people are stuck in life.
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No talk about losing hair, growing facial, body hair, heart enlargement and much more. No judgement, but very deceiving video for those impulsive that are thinking about jumping on the gear and all that other crazy stuff. Do your research like they said, ladies.
And you forgot big big changes to genitalia. That often never gets mentioned.
I was thinking the same liver damage, atrophy of the uterus, immune system damage along with all the symptoms that you already listed.
People willing to deceive themselves.
Yup, I did numerous cycles in my 20's and I'm dealing with heart issues into my 40's. IMO it was a combination of steroids and the numerous pre-workout supplements I used over a long period of time.
Name any sport or activity done to it's highest level that doesn't carry any risk of side effects or long term effects?
@@dangelo1369Terrible argument that has literally nothing to do with the comment.
OP was talking about how the video doesn't mention the critical downsides of using steroids.
Those women who were claiming no side effects should listen to a recording of themselves speaking
Aren’t all of them pretty much infertile
I wish they would’ve touched on if they get their periods, have excessive hair growth, suffer mood swings, anxiety or depression and less obvious symptoms to the public. I have naturally high testosterone and I suffered irregular periods, depression, mood swings, thick and excessive hair growth, my disorder put me at risk for fertility issues, etc. I’m on birth control to regulate my hormones and have more natural female hormone production now so my symptoms have lessened.
@@TyeMitchell-s5syes that's the most obvious side effect a life altering side effect for these misguided women, they have lost the ability to have children.
Denial 100% which bothers me because they DEFIANTLY said people should do research before taking that trash.
Well some of them sounded normal
It's crazy how girls who take steroids start to sound like men and some of them are saying "Nah wdym am natty" LMAO
Nothing crazy, when women take PEDs their voices normally get deeper and it’s not that shocking
it's called test voice for a reason
I know a female that randomly became ifbb pro out of nowhere. If they’re looking to build a career In Fitness and being an influencer, I think it’s the quickest way as a female
I can actually deal with the voice to a degree, they lose me with the facial hair growth , that is a bridge too far.
You are an idiot and missed the point @@wojciechsawicki4733
Not the researcher sounding like she shoots up T😂
This video is essentially full of women that are transitioning into men or they are men pretending to be women. It's hard to keep straight unless you keep looking for adam's apples.
I think she has dwarfism.
So? Her own use may have been the reason she got into the research aspect of it. Even if she's not using anymore the physical changes stay with you.
or shes trans???
Or get this, women’s voices vary..
this steroid thing is getting way too normalised like its actually not funny
SARMS are even worse now
Feels like he had no video after the first 30 seconds where everyone just admitted it then spent the next 10 minutes just asking general interview questions and telling people not to judge them for being on gear
ye wtf this vid feels like he's just trying to normalise steroid use in women. Very strange.
Who cares I never even seen somebody in real life on steroids
It's a world of drug addicts in a way or another...
"I honestly feel like this sport has given me longevity" All the dead bodybuilders would beg to differ.
Even worse for women, their organs, bones and fertility turn to dust
That’s men tho
To be fair, there are a lot more dead non lifters!
well, a lot of them say it stopped them from suicide... so, yeah, in that sense it adds longevity... and let's be honest, they are not mentally sane
1 de 1millon, mientras que un alcoholico son 10 de cada 100
Respectfully some of these women are delusional, one girl saying that if a guy doesn't like super jacked women it must mean they're insecure, another one saying that she feels like bodybuilding has given her longevity...
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Yea that was crazy, they were just struggling to justify it
You think the men on steroids are any better?
They don't need steroids to be delusional 😅
It's especially delusional if you consider the opposite. Many women don't like super jacked men. In fact the majority don't (jeff nippples got a video on it). So to imply that the opposite makes the man insecure is some preposterous delusion. It's just plain and simple preference. Most people are attracted to non abnormally large other people hence why it's the norm.
The voice change is irreversible. Once it happens, even if you never take steroids again, it won't change back. The psychological effect of that is strong.
But it is not worrying from medical standpoint
@maktiki Yes, very true
"the psychological effect" waah waah what if they love that deep voice for themselves?
Makes them sound like trans women, imo....
totally manageable with voice training
The researcher herself sounds like she’s on steroids
and she sounds insecure by saying that if men dont like jacked women, they are just insecure. no, most men are not insecure, they are just attracted to feminine features which steroids slowly eliminate
Oh she's on it 💉
I mean she has to know what she's talking about
Trueee, and at the end gets a little bit passionate defending it's use!
@@nbassasin8092 fucked up vocal chords due to health problems like acid reflux.
"I take a shit load of steroids and drop down to sub 10% bf for longevity" is the dumbest thing ive heard in a looong time.
I said the same thing, its the most unhealthy thing you can do
She probably thinks she's a man lol. It's healthy for a man to be around 10% bf, that's where you get your highest levels of testosterone. But for women 😬💀
Was thinking the same shit ... lmao
@@bennybomstrk-rust7052 she probably took advices for men but being this lean for a women is very hard on the body.
most of these bodys are screaming out loud that there imbalanced and toxicated. i wonder what they look in 20 years from now.
Voice test = failed.
fr you dont even need to ask natty or not?
@@yaboi672😂😂😂😂
And the face they all look so manly
Including the doctor
I agree but it's really funny, because american girls voice is already low to me ^^
A man that doesn't like a mucsular woman doesn't make them insecure. I would rather not have my GF have a body of a muscular man. Your preferences don't make you insecure.
I truly believe the women here have underlying mental health issues. I think it is very odd for men to be attracted to this too
I agree. You’re allowed to have preferences and it’s natural for a straight man to prefer a feminine looking woman 😂
it's not even preference.. it's basic biology..
Agreed. I also thought it was weird when I heard it. It's just not biologically attractive to most men, just like a morbidly obese woman would not be attractive for most men.
It doesn't make you insecure just because you aren't attracted to a certain body type.
If she isn't attracted to obese men is she insecure?
Edit: I do like the overall message of the video though, there is no need to judge others, let's all live our best lives.
Yea that was so dumb. Anyone can say that about anything. You can't gaslight people into being attracted to you. Accept it. Heterosexual men like women. Hypermuscularity and manly traits are not womanly. Deal with it.
Praising people to destroy their bodies because of body dysmorphia and addiction is hardly living their best life
@@Chickenwingsinthedings True but it's also their body so they get to decide that and not anyone else. It's not like they're hurting others by destroying their own body.
Most women don't like male body builders on steroids either. that comment was beyond dumb and delusional.
for sure she is insecure of herself :D
Im a natty female bodybuilder. I have to confirm - It's much harder for is to build muscle, but it's not impossible. I think I'll stay natty, and be determined!
love this for you! from one strong woman to another best of luck!!
@embo_5787 Thanks, sis! Best of luck! ♥️🌷
You are truly improving your quality of life and longevity. S
Gear is bad long term.
@Victor-z6e9q yeah
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"Have you had any side effects"
*scratches balls*: "No"
thats crazy💀💀
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I spit my beer with this one 👀😂
"Have you had any side effects?"
No, not at all. Other than my full beard, the bush on my ass crack and my voice sounding like Barry White.
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and clitoromegaly
Hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Don't forget the trans "penis"...
Lol…. I can’t take this!😅😂🤦🏽♂️
Barry White , Lou Rawls, & Isaac Hayes! And the Bass singer for the Temptations!🧔🏻♂️
Apparently, most don't even consider that deeper manly voice as a side effect! Crazy.
They probably do but they're not going to point out their own insecurities are they?
You don't even consider that maybe they just don't find the voice important and therefore not a negative side effect.
@@DST7058 or facial hairs
@@Beeti1
Negative is subjective, we mean side effects in general. They are going on a full blown trans gender protocol, minus changing thier actual identity.
@@Beeti1 This is what I thought! If some wizard turned me into a chick I would not care how I sounded lol, I'd just want to get the strength. I feel so bad for women how judged they are on everything. I wouldn't GAF.
A deeper voice has no negative effect on health.
You got to respect the powerlifter bodybuilder for her honesty
100%
No way dude she admitted to sitting on dudes pics for money she’s disgusting
Ikr 100%
Is she honestly the number 3 powerlifter in the world "regardless of gender", I'm really doubting that claim.
No respect for women who use steroids when they admit taking it! Only courtesy and civility towards them.
They all sound like Frieza from DBZ 🤣
Yessss😂😂😂 I knew I recognized that voice from somewhere...now I know xd
and most of their faces look like they're their own brother
Hi I'm from india and i laughed my ass out 😂
Hell yes, throwback
Hello Monkies!
My opinion - steroids shouldn’t be in bodybuilding period. It shouldn’t be glorified due to the medical risks and complications that come with it. There’s been too many deaths. I never been a big fan of female bodybuilding or bikini competitions, either they overly bulk to the point they no longer look feminine or they starve themselves to be under weight. I understand there need to be weight classes and expectations but it shouldn’t be okay to advocate self harm.
Bodybuilding: the only sport where illegal drug use is the standard, and eating disorders are encouraged.
dieting is not an eating disorder
"Natural bodybuilding" is part of "bodybuilding", so it is NOT the standard.
Now when you go to the elite athletes - there illegal drugs are standard in almost any sport.
And how would you describe "making weight" in the combat sports?
You think there is a heavywheight champion in MMA without anabolic steroids?
@@trakkatonthere is no natural bodybuilding event, they take drugs there too.
You mean almost every olypmic sport lol?
@@whatswealth Extreme and restrictive dieting definitely is.
Bro made his advert in-between clips so we could skip it, great man. Great work 😂
Actually, this 😂😂😂
couldn't*
It took a ton of courage for that woman to explain the issue with incontinence. That's DEDICATION to outing the issues and trying to warn other girls. She seriously took one for the team. We got u girl! Any woman who has physically given birth, knows ALL about a little incontinence 😂 my youngest is 15, and only recently have been able to laugh, cough, or sneezing without being terrified I was going to wet my pants😂❤
@@cmaden78 you might've accidentally replied to somebody's comment but correct me if i'm wrong
No, that's bad. If you have an adblocker you wouldn't even have to FFWD. Just get the adblocker extensions you need.
Victoria SOUNDS like she definitely knows what she's talking about
100%!
😂
haha, yeah I was thinking that to, but some woman have a lower voice but still hmm
@@richardhanssen672it’s a matured voice. Some women have their voices deepen a bit in their 30’s and 40’s. Not everyone, but some.
@@kevitamaster-brewkombucha5472 Yes 100%, her voice matured a lot through testosterone usage.
7:48 - Not finding muscular women with deep voices attractive doesn’t make me insecure; it makes me straight.
Exactly. If you're a woman and want to be ripped and do roids but still like men and want to be attractive to men that's what you say.
Women can have very deep voices with out steroids wtf if you like women then you are straight or at least bisexual.
don't forget bout acne
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I laughed way too hard at this comment, mostly because you're right. Though, not for nothing, I'm bis3xual and not finding any of the roided up women attractive.
From my point of view, the most bad side effect of taking steroids for women is the change in their face. I mean this extreme sharpness of the facial features. I guess it depends on the quantity and the type of steroids because it's not present in all of them. It seems this effect occurs in both men and women but to me, it's more devastating for women because they possess more facial natural beauty.
Objectively the worst side effects from steroids are the organ problems and (sometimes) severe anxiety. I see what you mean though, the change in face is probably the worst visual side effect.
Bro that's just because the women in this video were literally at like 5% bf
@@chyllerkoala3069 No. Just No. Low bodyfat can definitely accentuate the jaw. It doesn't make their heads and jaws 1.5x the size it was before.
And I thought I was the only one who noticed their faces looked oddly different.
@@benjaminbatselier6859 😂 Bro what do you mean the head grows
Dont like muscular girls has not automaticly something to do with insecureness. Personal preferences are a thing.
i don't have a real problem with their enhanced body
it's the gear that turns their face into a man's face
There's muscular and then there's abusing steriods muscular (along with masculine facial features) I like a natural woman who lifts weights someone like LeanBeefPatty for example
there's fit and then there's women transitioning into men, one's attractive and the other is a damn shame
Well, if you want kids, the fertility thing is probably an issue one should be be concerned with
It's called being straight. Women on steroids look like men
Hunter seems like the most chill person to hang out with. Couldn't have picked a better person to help with the video!
She’s my sister and she’s honestly the coolest person ever!
@@aillehenderson2936 Awww, that makes me so happy! 🤗 Tell her some random internet dude is proud! 👌👌
We went to college together. She was really sweet.
We went to rehab together. Super chill gal
We got lost in the Amazon rainforest together. She was a total survival expert!
to shit on a picture to get money is coraaazy
Bruh clearly hasn't been to "that" part of the internet
@@jesusvaldez8677 Bruh out here saying it like it's a bad thing.
who said that?
@@mojo2968that bodybuilder
if you think that's crazy then you haven't been on the internet very long
That woman who claims that men are insecure if they don't find female bodybuilders attractive has a biased opinion. A muscular body amped up on PED's isn't going to look particulary femenine. Men are in general attracted to softer bodies with curves.
It's not easy what they are doing, it's probably harder for women because they face more stigma and they sort of lose their gender with that body transformation where as men only seem to enhance their gender status in becoming big and strong.
I'd love to ask her if women are insecure not wanting to date men with boobs and butts taking estrogen.
You are the most correct person I've ever heard in the whole comment section
so true
I like the softer body with curves myself.If a female wants to be jacked,more power to them,just be careful and try to stay healthy.
And gyno
How steroids effect women...they stop looking like women......literally their faces change...
its disgusting! just look at 0:45
@@jernej.skoflek100% guys into proper steroid using bodybuilding women are usually closet gays
For real, at first glance i thought that they are men😂😂
Same as men, the fact that a deeper voice and a squared inflated face seems more normal in a man doesn't change that is the exact same fckd up stuff... just saying
Wider jawline than most men, yikes.
Last 15 seconds of this video is what everyone needs to hear and a hell of a lot more people need to live by!
even the doctor juicing lul
she looks too much like Nancy Mace too. I don't want that, b.
She is actually not a doctor. From the information I could find she has been a doctorate student for the past 9 years. Seems more like she is just another "coach".
@@JovianFrostwolf Yeah I went to look up her info right away it's what I saw too.
she had to go to a doctor to find out that she is actually in a female body.
Best comment ive seen for a minute
The female PhD researcher has a deeper voice than almost everyone else.
Probably not female at birth is my guess, but also this video makes it hard to tell.
And the face is like the moon
This “expert” is also not giving a full, unbiased view of female steroid use. She is only talking about it in terms of social constructivism. This ignore most if not all of the physical side effects.
Bad “expert”.
Just goes to show, as with most things, there is a large variation between individuals. Some guys just have a natural baritone voice. Some are higher like Jesse. Same for ladies. Its just the average skewing one way or the other.
@@jakemaxwell3810 She is just taking T. That's the most realistic explanation.
PS: Doctoral researcher is not an actual title. She is a doctoral candidate that is engaging in research - the former implies that she has completed her PhD
Doctoral researcher = Doctoral Canditate That Is Engaging In Research?
Okay. Noted. Seems almost more concise to use in a video. Could have said "PhD Researcher" or "Research Scientist" instead.
Splitting hairs it feels like.
This correction is not accurate. The term 'doctoral researcher' is a widely accepted descriptive term, particularly in the UK and Europe. It serves as an umbrella term encompassing both Ph.D. students and Ph.D. candidates, regardless of their stage of progression. Contrary to your suggestion, 'doctoral researcher' explicitly implies that the Ph.D. has not yet been completed. Also, doctoral researcher says something more about someone than "PhD. student".
@@Raztin1-tl6gi That is not standard convention in North America. It is not an officially recognized term or title. Even in Europe, that is not a commonly used title. Source: I am a professor at a major Canadian University. You can simply google the term and find the out that it is not standard practice to describe yourself as a doctoral researcher.
@@caltech25 Agreed. Either Grad student or PhD student would be normal. Source: also a professor (U.S.)
I made the intro clip! Cool! I'll have to come back and watch the full episode!
Steroids should be way more shamed than they are.
Facts
I come from track & field and I'm from Europe. I assure you that in most sport environments outside of fitness and bodybuilding steroids are seen very very badly and juiced people are considered like despicable cheaters (and they are, at least in most sport). It's the fitness & bb community that has completely skewed perception and unfortunately they're becoming increasingly popular in the later years.
Nah
@@godmarilputente7460 they are not seen as bad here in europe haha go fetch a stick
@@gregoriomiller8241 yes it should, there are natural limits to the human body, and we should accept those boundaries, not demolish them by modifying our own bodies, when it doesn't even make you look "better", it's simply unhealthy and unnecessary. if competitions didn't allow steroids, people could simply compete naturally, everyone would have equal chances, and not need to spend a fortune on this shit.
using a LITTLE steroids just for faster gains is a bit more acceptable, as long as it has almost 0 side effects, but that's just for personal use, not for competitions
They literally have manly faces and voices talking about "I've not experienced any side effects"...
They even grew micro peens 😂😂😂
@@JohnWikuyeah the one talking about c*** enlargement was extreme
@@JohnWikuThat's the most delicious part😏
no side effects except hair growth on my balls...that 's the only bad side effect i can see.
Not the one that didn’t speak English. She seemed feminine
I think it was really refreshing and smart to interlace clips from the vid into the sponsored segment, honestly that was sick
I found it seriously annoying. I prefer missing out on parts of the video rather than sit through even one second of adds, if I can avoid it, so I just fast forwarded until that crap was over.
How does it affect women? It transitions them into men without the equipment. Its not insecure for a man not to be attracted to nearly another man. At the same time, it's their lives so if that's what they want to do with it and damn the consequences, I admire their commitment to it.
forgot all that makes me a dude is my dick and muscles , actual numpty
The "if a man doesn't like a muscular woman, that means he's insecure" is a wild thing to say
@@Shady_brcancel culture wants to turn men into LGBTQers
I don't think I heard any of the women in this video saying men are insecure for not being attracted to full on bodybuilder women, they only said this in regard to people sending them unnecessary, insensitive or rude comments.
@@theodorlager40247:48 that's literally what she says
As someone who knows absolutely nothing about steroids I'm confused how these women have such extremely obvious side effects to their face, voice and general masculine appearance -----
yet Vladislava Galagan is crazy jacked but still has a super feminine face. Why is that?
Comes down to the kind of steroids they're using and genetics. Different steroids virilize differently. Some people are also just not that sensitive to virilization so they end up getting less side effects.
She has a higher body fat % and also isn’t doing show makeup/tan in her pics
@@kc12394 if thats the case why don't all women take the stuff which doesn't give those effects - do they not work as well?
@@stevejhkhfda They do not. Almost all muscle building "supplements" have musicalizing size effects.
Galagan has not all the obvious side effects showing.....yet! Give it some more years of abuse to make its work of "transforming magic" and you shall see. In addition to that her voice is often on the lower side. Wonder how it sounded pre steroid use.
"Men want uppies" just sent me to floor laughing 😂
Sadly it's a thing🤦🏻♀️ I hear it as a tall woman as well.
I would say no because they dont look attractive to me. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Doesn't make me insecure, its just not attractive.
PSA: A man not being attracted to a female body builder is not insecurity it’s called a preference, and a very common one at that. People tend to not like extreme body types. Plenty of women do not find male body builders attractive either.
Ikr when these "women" said that its because of insecurity im like thats crap projection delulu nonsense
I am a face guy, so let me tell you that the body isn't even the worst thing about juiced female bodybuilders
literally… i’ve never been attracted to extremely muscular bodies or big mass in general 🤷🏼♀️ super “manly men” appearance is unattractive to me it’s just preference !!!
@@bbyjes ikr me neither
Literally!! many women dont like shorts guys, that doesn't make them insecure, lol. its just a preference. these people want us to not even have that, lmao😂
> "we do it for ourselves"
> "I want a physique that makes people stop when you walk in"
Lol I was gonna comment this exact same thing. I wondered if he put that cut in on purpose. I guess they just have different reasons.
Well when u think about it, it’s for their own ego. But I don’t shame them for that. I want to lose weight and be a bit more muscular for my own confidence and for male attention.
That was two different people.
yeah, almost like 2 different people can have different motivations.
Men literally say the exact same thing but it’s praised
I respect the work they put in because it’s a fuck ton but I am absolutely not insecure for not finding them attractive lmao.
That lady was right about preferences. You can not like skinny guys and guys who don’t like muscular girls are the same. Just a preference.
@@Pero-zl4jp i find it weird to compare not liking skinny guys to not liking jacked roided up women.
the comparison is drastically different and it sounds like you're saying you have to be abnormal to not like jacked girls...
its pretty normal to not like skinny guys, or not like fat guys, etc...
but it is absolutely strange if you like women that are roided up with little penis cl*ts and deep voice etc... there's nothing wrong with being strange but this comparison is too different.
it would make more sense to me to compare it to some girls liking morbidly obese guys or getting pooped and peed on, and some guys liking super jacked women... lol
I find muscular women attractive, but only naturally muscular. Steroid women, not so much.
@@Pero-zl4jp Ehhh, one's more natural and normal. girls who don't like skinny guys, normal.... men who are straight that like muscular women that have higher T levels than them, not so much.
@@GettingSchwiftyy I agree personally but everyone got their own preferences
You can get jacked af on some low dose relatively safe sarms, these people willingly shaving 10-15+ years off their life with hardcore gear are the definition of self-absorbed idiocy.
10-15? LOL I know people that died in their early 40s. Everyone else was having heart attacks and open heart surgery at 30 years old.
It's closer to 40-50 years off your life.
I'd rather take a 200mg test per week than liver toxic sarms that we know fak all about and the long term side effects, sarm are real shit you don't really know what you're putting into your body compared to pharma grade tests,bro you whack af respectfully of course
7:10 what is she talking about?
Jessie doing what Louis Theroux did 20 years ago it’s crazy how much more it’s accepted now
Dude take it easy with those ads. It's annoying af.
Man
I thought you meant like TH-cam ads at first but now I see, jeez. Like get your bread but geez tone it down a bit on the self-promotion.
That’s how he makes his money 🤷♀️
SponsorBlock extension. You're welcome :)
3:24 With that voice…she dabbles 🥴
I figured “she” isn’t really a she
That’s why she’s the expert 😂🥷
Facts 💯
No question about it
😭😭
“Im not somebody to yuck someone’s yum.” I like how that sounded idk how to explain but tht was smooth asf go off queen🤣✨
You can tell they’re not natural based on their voice
not if they do some intra muscular, sub-lingual SARMs.
Yess
Or the muscles..
There are other things that can make a woman have an unusually deep voice, but in certain contexts, it’s a little suspicious.
7:37 "It makes mainstream very uncomfortable, because the female is very strong." Leanbeafpatty is the biggest counter point, they must not sound like Freyza and look still recognizably female.
Leanbeafpatty is natural though. they were talking about women on steroids being less accepted than men on steroids.
neither should really be normalized though.
Patty is the pinnacle of the "musle mommy" archetype
@@fisthau The problem is that steroids affect females way more than males on almost every level.
@@realization8919It simply makes women into men.
@@DittersGustav if men had severe organ damage, really high blood pressure, severe anxiety, etc then yeah
Once you get beyond regional shows and into nationals, we are ALL on gear. Full stop.
"Confidence to grow old" she says.....when one of the main side effects of prolonged steroid use is an early death.
"You only live once, so don't judge." Excuse me? No.
"You only live once, so judge righteously." That's better.
Steroid use shouldn't be accepted for either men or women.
We're congratulating people into an early grave.
Let's not forget that.
You're right
@go_rizzo_grow thank you 🙏
It's a risk that's worth it for some people just like any decision. Should motorcycles not be accepted? What about skydiving? Also that risk can be mitigated pretty easily if you are getting your health checked frequently and are reasonable. Remember there's different levels of steroid use, this is the absolute extreme you're seeing in this video.
yeah i dont like that "we let men do it, so let women do it too" like no, working out should be about getting and staying healthy, not about gaining unhealthy amounts of muscle
@@nonculus Working out should be whatever the person working out wants it to be, since it's their body and not ours. People work out for different reasons
4:51 - "Probably because of the misconception test is the male hormone where as both men and women have testosterone" - Yeah that's insane cope. If exogenous test didn't exist women with the highest natural levels with upper level being 70 ng/dL wouldn't come close to the lowest average males test levels of 300 ng/dL.
5:13 - EVEN MORE COPE - "Some men have higher estrogen naturally, does that mean a man is more feminine because their estrogen is more high" - Men with high estrogen typically have really high testosterone that is converting to estrogen if they take steroids which was her first example so NO they wouldn't exhibit more female traits. Men that are natural that have high estrogen also typically MAX have E2 level of 40 pg/mL. A womans natural E2 on the low level typically hovers around 30 pg/mL to 150 pg/mL depending on the stage of her cycle if with an upper of 750pg/mL. So again this is all framing drug use. I'm not even saying women shouldn't take steroids, people can do whatever they want but this is just a bunch of bollocks
In addition to that, they are much more sensitive to Testosterone. Their receptors are not distributed like in men too.
Yeah lmao 300ng was my lowest and i was still strong asf
Yea I feel like she twisted this because there are women who genuinely have low test, on a range for females, that do need trt at much lower levels but def not at the same dosage as men.
@@MementoVivere. "That do need trt" seems to be the theme these days when actual lifestyle choices are fundamental to the T-levels. At least in men you see levels of Testosterone raise when obese men goes on a diet and lose weight to a normal/somewhat lowish fat percentage.
People being fat asses, overeating, sitting on their couch watching Netflix and TH-cam not moving their ass, stresses all day othewize (the modern lifestyle where everything have to be crammed in to a day) and don't take care of their sleep (also being affected by the stress levels to begin with).
People, including women, choose the "fast lane", the shortcut, the easiest way out and don't care about long-term consequences.
Fix it today, forget about tomorrow.
You can easily be in better shape all "naturale" than a person with a bad lifestyle using PED:s.
Easily!!!
The irony of someone who uses anabolic steroids to look a certain way instead of accepting nature, calling somebody else insecure.
Exactly. Men have absolutely no problem with strong Women. But they want them to be strong and look like Valentina Shevchenko or Alexa Grasso (Female UFC Champions) and not strong and look like Carrot Top
To sum it up, it is strength and muscle at all costs. Not necessarily insecurity. Nature makes them weak, so they break nature to be strong. Even if it cost their femininity, and possibly years of life. I can somewhat respect that. What I don't respect is one of them calling men insecure for not being attracted to them, given that's just a matter of preference.
Not irony, just ignorance.
@stevenbernfeld6415 Irony, as in getting hit by the ambulance. It's ironic because she is the one who is insecure and is throwing stones from a glass house.
It's crazy how some of them have a deeper voice than me yet claim they're natural and the expert sounds like she's shooting up gear daily
“Have you noticed any side effects?”
*”No, brother”*
Saying that a man is insecure if he doesn't like women with more muscle than any natural man can get is like saying that a woman not attracted by men with fake tits is insecure.
Yes like the fat guy
Thanks dude 😂 you made my day
This is a genius analogy, it's so true lol.
Super cheeky putting "it gives me longevity" right before "I sacrificed a lot" 😂
tbh what i find most amazing and interesting about these female bodybuilders is the fact they look like t-girls, like they have very masculine faces and jaws, to me its not even the bodies but just their voices and faces look like they are trans lol
I guess I’m the only one that thinks it’s unfair to compete on steroids against natural people.
The natural ones look way better 😊
The "natural" ones use stuff too just less. These are womens open bodybuilding girls
Same with the men tbh
Bikini girls also take PEDs
Handled with supreme respect and sensitivity, Jesse. Well done, sir!
I'm curious... When you started this 7-8 years ago, would you ever imagine that you would be conducting these types of interviews backstage at the OLYMPIA! I've been watching for 4 years. I think the fact that you yourself have grown has resulted in the channel growing.
Two sponsorships in one video is crazy
Biggest takeaway from this video… 12:13 , Paul Finebaum in the background, …”look, none of these ladies are on steroids in spite of what they claim, and Bama is the favourite to win the Natty.
Everything that's being said in this video has been going on since the 80s. When women bodybuilders were smaller than today's bikini girls, people had a problem.
Thanks for making those Videos about Steroids, in the fitness scene it is such an present and yet unspoken theme and a lot of natural people in the gym compare themselves to unnatty ones and wonder and get frustrated that they don't get as big as their role models on social media or so, so it is very important that a guy like you enlightens us about the truth.
Sometimes I watch these enhanced females old social media posts before they started the drugs and see a very feminine and beautiful young woman. I always wonder what triggered them to do this. This stuff is much deeper than them wanting to compete.
Much much deeper
Exercise can be addictive thing
I mean they live on a planet with men walking around saying stuff like "your body my choice" or "I COULD R word you, but I won't." why wouldn't you want to be strong enough to protect yourself?
It is when you have been treated like the weaker sex it pushes you to become the strongest version.
@@K.C-2049 I've never heard any men say any of those things. What kind of men are you hanging around? Men can be stupid and say shit like like "man you're hot." but what the f*ck kind of guy tells a girl that he could r*pe her if he wanted to!?
How to die young, i mean the mortality rate for bodybuilding is of the chart.
Victoria is a LEGEND!!! Great Video and respect to all these incredible athletes.
"If you don’t think very muscle bound females are attractive you’re insecure" biggest cope ever😂💀
Especially when it's coming from a person who looks like Conan the Barbarian's older brother
Pues cada uno tiene sus gustos, si a ti te gustan las mujeres musculosas pues bien, pero a mi me gustan las mujeres con su cuerpo natural, sus curvitas etc,,, pero nada de musculo. Gustos son gustos.
@@kazuyamishima4595 And if you like Women that look like Men, you just have 🏳🌈 tastes.
@@kazuyamishima4595 so true that. i like muscular women, but i prefer a natty..
@@caityoxfit and freak are two very different things
Their bodies: 🏋️♀️
Their voices: 👹
They do look like men though, and it's not even because of the muscles. Some women in the Victorian era were absolutely jacked (google it, it's awesome) but they didn't look like men facially. If everyone in this video cut off their hair and took off the makeup, it would be hard to distinguish which ones aren't male. Also, women cannot attain this level of muscle naturally ever, but men can, so it's hard to not make that association, it's like a woman with a full beard.
Finally someone who talks about this! LOVE your videos.
love u man
@@JesseJamesWestu are on gear bro
@@shred9475 Jesse is a natty little guy please stfu 💀
"Men are insecure about it" feels much like projection
A fact is many of theese women went through abuse, victims of SA are extremly overepresented amongst female bodybuilders. Probably one of the reasons to get away from femininity. And yes I think that scares many men, because some of theese women are more male than most men. Obviously all that counts about a human is a kind heart, so no offence.
Anytime a woman has disproportionately developed upper traps, it is nearly always due to anabolic steroid use.
That one woman who said if a guy doesn’t like muscular women he is insecure about himself, i totally disagree. I’m bi, having had serious relationships with both men and women. Personally I am not attracted to female body builders. I don’t find that esthetic attractive. There’s nothing wrong with that. We’re allowed to like what we like and shouldn’t be shamed for not being attracted to some people.
Yeah, I agree. It's all about preference.
🤮🤮🤮🤮
They avoid the deeper voice side effect a lot :(
We have it, they have it, what's the problem haha
They are probably thinking about health side effects when he's asking , because the voice is very obvious and you can hear it, they don't need to even mention it
10:59
Her: "I feel like this has given me longevity"
Her heart: "I'm enlarged and don't feel well at all".
Her liver: "Yeah, I hurt all of the time."
10:59 bro said longevity on steroids😂😂😂😂
Men are judged less on steroids than women because the women lose the attractive feminine features haha
Yup
Or they are scared to get slapped
@@stellak.5784 by wo ?
they clearly don't care tho otherwise they wouldn't be doing it, so what's the problem?
So they are judged more because people don't like the look? What kind of justification is that?
I am not insecure, its just not appealing to me. I definitely respect these women though. The dedication is amazing.
Find a dictionary and learn what the word Dedication means. It means not abusing steroids to become masculine and unattractive.
7:55 No Lady, I just love and attracted to a feminine figure.
"I'm not someone to yuck someone else's yum" love Hunter 😆
So you love a women who shits on peoples pics for money? You and her are everything wrong with the world
well she literally said she was shitting on ppl's pictures for money, hard to have a different opinion if you're willing to do that :P
the women don't want to be judged but then get on a stage to be judged. ironic
I find it interesting how some of them trick themselve in believing that they dont look 'manly' and that it is just our society that makes the world believe that
They look primal 🔥
They're delusional and trying to justify their poor choices.
all these women have a deeper voice than jesse, but he's out here doing gods work asking the tough questions 🔥
Jesse is just a sweetheart
7:10 what is she talking about?
Huh? 2:24 what's the source for that ?
None, it's completely made up.
Thats crazy statement!!! 😂
She did not say she did not work out before that :) Just went all in a year ago.
Delulu is the solulu
The best body physique that you should desire is the one built on being natural, if you are taking steroids to look like something that you cannot achieve while being natty should be discouraged, that applies for both men and women
7:50 it’s no more insecure than a woman not finding a guy attractive because he’s under 6’2” and makes less than $200K per year
From where did you get that conclusion, she never said anything about that
Based
It's not insecure at all. Having a preference is not an insecurity.
Thanks for spreading awareness about this topic with your unique style
This man’s content is top tier
thanks so much man
@@JesseJamesWestwhy is the rainbow dude in the vid? Thats obv a man
The one with the Mohawk just likes having a big mouse to double-click at long red lights