Steam Deck on an airplane could be better.

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  • My experience using the Valve Steam Deck while flying in airplane mode. Getting games to run and managing battery life can be a challenge.
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  • @MetalJesusRocks
    @MetalJesusRocks  ปีที่แล้ว +254

    With the Steam Deck getting more and more popular, Do you think game devs will allow their games run w/o an internet connection?

    • @lady1kaka
      @lady1kaka ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Probably not... 😕

    • @AWDChargerPursuit
      @AWDChargerPursuit ปีที่แล้ว +38

      You probably made this video a while ago. Valve released a patch a week ago that allows for an easier offline mode experience. This video is not going to age well

    • @christopherjackson2157
      @christopherjackson2157 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I wish they would. Then again steam is the company that won't let me run my physical disc copy of cities skylines without having steam installed, being online and logged in. Or even install directly from the disc without pulling a whole bunch of downloads from their servers. Warez had fewer hoops to jump through.

    • @Clozof
      @Clozof ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Steam's entire reason for existing is DRM. Going to be hard to compromise with them on that. 🧙🏼‍♂🧙🏼‍♂

    • @telios13
      @telios13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i dont think so dude

  • @doubled8511
    @doubled8511 ปีที่แล้ว +1695

    The problem with DRM is it hurts genuine players more than it does people that want to pirate the game. Single player should never need an internet connection.

    • @MetalJesusRocks
      @MetalJesusRocks  ปีที่แล้ว +312

      THIS 👆

    • @cgasparetto
      @cgasparetto ปีที่แล้ว +129

      Exactly!! They don't realize this. Pirates will be pirates, no matter what. I already had to crack original games I own because the DRM had legacy dependencies that don't work anymore.

    • @KuittheGeek
      @KuittheGeek ปีที่แล้ว +26

      100% agree. I don't think the idea of a 24-48 hour buffer is unreasonable. We live in a connected world, sure, but there are always reasons to be offline. Remember when driving in the car meant you were away from the internet? I do. We shouldn't have to use a hotspot just to play a game, especially a single player game. Unfortunately, there is only so much Valve can do, especially with games that have 3rd party launchers that do the authentication. Valve has been working on offline mode on their end, but it can't extend to games that have these 3rd party launchers. We and Valve need to put pressure on these other studios to give use the quality of life improvements, and I honestly think we will see it. It might take a few months to a year, but if people won't play your game because they have to have an active internet connection, then they might not play it. That would leave a bad taste in my mouth, and make me not want to start any of these games.
      I would say the biggest thing in the PC world is that we haven't had a system like this before. Everything has either been a desktop or laptop, and I would guess that most people wouldn't play the laptop on a plane, for a variety of reasons, battery being one of them. Because of the form factor, price, and popularity of the Deck, it is becoming more mainstream than any of Aya or GPD's offerings, so these issues are now being brought forward. And I think it is interesting that it has taken 6 months after release for this to be a problem. It seems like it just recently hit critical mass on Reddit and now people are talking about it all the time. I would guess it is more because of all of the other things that Valve has been fixing so they became a non-issue, and we finally made it down the line where "Hmm... this thing is actually really great now, but I wish the offline mode worked better..." Maybe people are just starting to travel more now than the first few months, but still, I find it interesting.

    • @TurkishChubs
      @TurkishChubs ปีที่แล้ว +61

      The irony is that they are making more Pirates because you run into this DRM problem on games that you bought 🤷‍♂️

    • @kuhpunkt
      @kuhpunkt ปีที่แล้ว +14

      And most of those games are cracked anyway.

  • @qqq1701
    @qqq1701 ปีที่แล้ว +964

    "Singleplayer gameplay requires an active internet connection" This should never be the case. Never.

    • @bennettwaisbren
      @bennettwaisbren ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Agreed

    • @flyingplantwhale545
      @flyingplantwhale545 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      Exactly. And this dude trying to suggest it should be on you to have to authenticate the game in 24hrs is absolutely moronic. It’s the whole reason why the ‘digital future’ is as despised as it is. You f*cking bought the game. That should be the end of it. Instead they want you to look for a wifi spot to continuously PROVE that you bought it ???

    • @ethanwing997
      @ethanwing997 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@flyingplantwhale545 yeah i agree with you i bought the game to play whenever however i want. If companies do this what is stopping me and everyone else from just not wasting money and time and just pirate it with a BETTER version of the switch or steamdeck from a 3rd party company

    • @cookiesontoast9981
      @cookiesontoast9981 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      This is THE reason I ever pirate games. If DRM wasn't so horrid then I wouldn't do it!

    • @ShinryuZensen
      @ShinryuZensen ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This was my reaction when I bought Diablo 3 for PC.
      I never bought another Blizzard game since.

  • @amberb9701
    @amberb9701 ปีที่แล้ว +720

    It’s pretty messed up that people who pirate these games don’t have this issue yet paying customers do. Companies need to realize that DRM hurts paying customers not pirates.

    • @backpain100
      @backpain100 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      I'm not suggesting or encourage this, but you can buy the game and then pirate it too. It sucks, I know, but if you want the games to work now, that's your only option until the devs patch the games.

    • @BIG_CLARKY
      @BIG_CLARKY ปีที่แล้ว +1

      exactly

    • @dmo848
      @dmo848 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Pirates, pirate anyway

    • @GoodGamer360
      @GoodGamer360 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@backpain100 you realize you can directly pirate it, right? fuck the drm and fuck the devs who supports it

    • @_Majoras
      @_Majoras ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@dmo848 AAARRRGG MATEY!🦜🏴‍☠

  • @Minusroot8
    @Minusroot8 ปีที่แล้ว +230

    Once you authenticate a game you “own” on your device it should be playable on that device regardless. One time and done.

    • @MetalJesusRocks
      @MetalJesusRocks  ปีที่แล้ว +62

      That's the dream.

    • @NuclearHendrix
      @NuclearHendrix ปีที่แล้ว +7

      If he downloaded the games directly to the Steam Deck, they should have worked. But if he did some kind of data transfer then yeah he would have needed to launch each of those games at least once while connected to the internet to get the game licenses for the Steam Deck.

    • @theacematt2
      @theacematt2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @MikeyMay8 - Works here just the same. 👍👍

    • @XDTheLaughingManXD
      @XDTheLaughingManXD ปีที่แล้ว

      this is the actual perfect happy medium, i agree with this.

    • @user-ih6oe9ny3j
      @user-ih6oe9ny3j ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@NuclearHendrix I downloaded gta v from steam, definitely needs to have an activate internet connection even for single player when you launch

  • @CarbonatedTurtle
    @CarbonatedTurtle ปีที่แล้ว +266

    Just one more thing that pushes people towards piracy. We can get cracked versions of just about every game that will run fine offline, but they screw over people who actually pay for the game by forcing them to be online. When will developers understand that a customer should be able to play their game 100% of the time, regardless of whether or not they're connected to the internet?

    • @espressomatic
      @espressomatic ปีที่แล้ว

      Came to say the same thing. I can’t believe that in 2022 anyone is still putting in silly drm/authentication as “protection” when in reality it’s a driver for piracy.
      It’s easier to download an illegal copy. It’s easier to run an illegal copy. The problem is not the price in most cases - it’s the artificial barriers these asshats put up.

    • @thebabno
      @thebabno ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Just another example how paying customers get the shit end of the stick. It's kind of embarrassing when the game gets cracked 48-72 hours after launch.

    • @DissTrackTed
      @DissTrackTed ปีที่แล้ว +41

      “You will own NOTHING, And you will be happy”

    • @chrom4ful
      @chrom4ful ปีที่แล้ว +4

      True that, btw you can run cracked games on steam deck if you're familiar with linux, wine, and proton, in case you're desperate

    • @cbgg1585
      @cbgg1585 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Haha, mate, people pirate anyway. People like you don’t give 2 $hits about what developers do. Just look at how heavily the PSP was pirated despite boasting ‘better’ consumer practices back in the so called ‘golden age’ of gaming.
      The psp games were decently priced but still faced piracy issues, hence why the software sales of the PSP tanked- Sony even admitted this.
      A developer can be the most consumer friendly and yet, piracy will still exist in great numbers!

  • @super8bitable
    @super8bitable ปีที่แล้ว +391

    There should be a rule on Steam that forces developers to have an offline option for their single player games ESPECIALLY since the Steam Deck is a thing.

    • @shawklan27
      @shawklan27 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      preach

    • @shae1547
      @shae1547 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      They can't afford to do that and have a high cut off games sold on there, publishers would just go to the epic games store unfortunately

    • @mauryj.3415
      @mauryj.3415 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Steam does, this more of an issue with Origin not Steam

    • @XDTheLaughingManXD
      @XDTheLaughingManXD ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mauryj.3415 steam has an offline mode, but some games on steam still require a connection despite being single player.

    • @__1201
      @__1201 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not going to happen. It would make games easier to pirate.

  • @ComradeLavender
    @ComradeLavender ปีที่แล้ว +170

    Totally against DRM. It punishes more than it helps.

    • @yuesu2325
      @yuesu2325 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It delays the time it takes to crack a game to have pirated version by a few days at most, but punishes paying customers forever. Some people even download the pirated version of the game they bought just to be able to open the game straight away instead of going through another launcher, it's so counter productive.

    • @ForceInEvHorizon
      @ForceInEvHorizon ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yuesu2325 not few days but months. farcry 6 takes almost 1-2 years before it got cracked and dying light 2 is 6 months and maneater just literally recently cracked

    • @derp195
      @derp195 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And it only punishes people who actually bought the game. Pirated copies just bypass drm altogether.

  • @HyrulianTV
    @HyrulianTV ปีที่แล้ว +100

    Unfortunately when it comes to games with third party launchers like Origin, Ubisoft, or Heroic, Valve has zero control over how they handle launching the games when you have no internet. The Steam Deck has an offline mode in the settings and Valve has been working to try and improve the offline experience, but there is only so much they can do when we live in an age where Devs seem to think they all need their own launchers for their games. I think the best way Valve could try and combat this is by punishing devs by rating their games lower on the verification system if their games don't work seamlessly without an internet connection.

    • @snintendog
      @snintendog ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I think its time for Valve to crack down on third party launchers invading their platform.

    • @TonyJenn
      @TonyJenn ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@snintendog easier said than done...

    • @SherrifOfNottingham
      @SherrifOfNottingham ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I always wished there was a nag box that told you a game had 3rd party DRM or launchers when you added it to your cart then again when you attempt to checkout.

    • @OnlyGrafting
      @OnlyGrafting ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Carl_Gunderson some of em are fine though. Paradox Interactive has launchers for each of their games but WiFi isn't mandatory for them. It's just a pregame page to setup mods and settings if you don't want to do everything on steam prior. The real issue is things like Origin that force you into what is essentially another library that wants you online constantly. They're silly annoying. Ubisoft connect too, never use it but it's forced onto you.

    • @RusticRonnie
      @RusticRonnie ปีที่แล้ว

      @@snintendog3rd party launchers are already going away.
      All valve would do is get less market share

  • @razredge68
    @razredge68 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    DRM issues is the main reason why I have no interest in investing in next gen consoles from any manufacture. I don't sell my games and consoles because I want to be able to go back and play them many years later. Any developer that implements these online DRM tactics does not care about the life of the game.

    • @redcrimson1028
      @redcrimson1028 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Agreed 100%. The. Ps5 and series x are my last consoles. From now on I only buy nintendo products.

    • @CarbonPanther
      @CarbonPanther ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Oh you're really funny lmao
      Denuvo announced just yesterday that they've developed their DRM software to be used on switch games...
      Neglecting your point, none of these manufacturers are sane to trust anymore.

    • @snintendog
      @snintendog ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@CarbonPanther Nintendo isnt in on it... apparently Denuvo is trying to advertise to the publishers instead. They are dying.

    • @shredbraahh8606
      @shredbraahh8606 ปีที่แล้ว

      Preach it. Preservation is so freakin important.

    • @tapeworm6508
      @tapeworm6508 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      "investing" in a video game console

  • @piper77
    @piper77 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I got my steamdeck a little over a week ago. I love it. It's an emulation beast and have been playing it more that my other consoles lately. I am thankful for this video though. Don't travel often but want to go to Europe (again) sometime in the future. Glad you are sharing this problem. Hopefully developers will address this issue as the steam deck is kind of new and niche to be honest.

  • @FTRnRhome
    @FTRnRhome ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I can't get enough of mine! Best thing to happen in gaming for me, as a parent this thing is worth it's weight in gold. The older I have been getting the less time I have to game, and when I have the time I don't want to spend it sitting at my desk. Laying in bed or on the couch and playing my entire pc library is bonkers. Great video!

  • @keshajohnson4180
    @keshajohnson4180 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That’s a big thing for me , being able to run in offline mode. If I can’t play on the go without needing Wi-Fi that pretty much defeats the purpose on having a handheld device. At least with the switch you can play your games whenever wherever

  • @SilverKnight16
    @SilverKnight16 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This is actually a great conversation into the nature of always-online DRM, and how it damages the gaming community by and large, to say nothing of preservation whenever those "single-player" games go offline for good.

    • @applehazeva2739
      @applehazeva2739 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The need of Internet to play GTA V on the go really put me off.

    • @damonalfero3125
      @damonalfero3125 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@applehazeva2739or in my case wanting to play rdr2. but nooooo can't do that without logging In to Rockstar online. like having drm online checks on a handheld is just dumb. it defeats the purpose of it being a handheld. I've noticed it's mostly Rockstar and any game that uses Denuvo. other games launch just fine, and surprisingly all my Playstation games like Spiderman plays just fine offline. other games like rdr2, guardians of the galaxy, assassins creed syndicate, they all require periodic check ins, but won't tall you when you should do it. so it leaves me to trying to load it in hotel or plane and it just keeps failing and I get so mad I just watch a downloaded movie on my phone instead. I have a lot of same games on switch although worse graphics, but at least they just boot and play.

  • @jpcarsmedia
    @jpcarsmedia ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Online connectivity being required is an issue for PC gaming as a whole. GOG does it right with no DRM/Authentication required to play your games. Wish the rest of the industry would follow suit.

    • @Kevin-sl3gk
      @Kevin-sl3gk ปีที่แล้ว +17

      It's really the big publishers that are pushing this kind of crap - Rockstar, Ubisoft, EA, and 2k. It's why we don't see most of their games on GOG.

    • @yamigekusu
      @yamigekusu ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Kevin-sl3gk Imagine me being pissed when they REQUIRED Rockstar Launcher...for goddamn ONE GAME in my library (Max Payne 3). This some bullshit indeed

    • @applehazeva2739
      @applehazeva2739 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yamigekusu I bought GTA V for my Deck before I got it for 15€ on Steam. Was hyped all days and then I installed it and saw
      "Game needs to be activated, get out of the Steam Offline Mode"

    • @applehazeva2739
      @applehazeva2739 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      its sad really, becouse you can play GTA V for like 4 hours on Deck

    • @SherrifOfNottingham
      @SherrifOfNottingham ปีที่แล้ว +1

      GOG is just a company capitalizing on the fact that saying something is "DRM Free" is marketable.
      GOG has DRM though which has always kinda rubbed me the wrong way.

  • @Nogli
    @Nogli ปีที่แล้ว +117

    The fact that he felt the need to include a trigger warning at the beginning says so much about many gamers who have to grow up.

    • @MetalJesusRocks
      @MetalJesusRocks  ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Yeah, well... I know my audience 😉

    • @martinrusso409
      @martinrusso409 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah it's ridiculous how stupid some of his viewers are

    • @sterd1149
      @sterd1149 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Someone's triggered

  • @natew5593
    @natew5593 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Love the video this week! I’ve had a really hard week, adjusting to taking anti-depressant medication for the first time, have been all over the place, and video games have been really helping me get through it. Would love to see a video where you guys talk about a time when gaming helped you get through a tough time or something like that. Have a great weekend!

    • @MetalJesusRocks
      @MetalJesusRocks  ปีที่แล้ว +19

      You got this! Thanks for watching.

    • @wickersticks
      @wickersticks ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good luck! I've started taking mine again, it really does make a huge difference, just don't be dumb like me, and stick with it, it will get better! :)

  • @Sleepysnorlax1
    @Sleepysnorlax1 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I actually ran into this last month on the Switch. I downloaded TMNT SR and couldn’t play it on the plane because I couldn’t authenticate. So, that issue is more developer related than Steam Deck. Very irritating either way.

    • @MetalJesusRocks
      @MetalJesusRocks  ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Oh really?! That sucks....

    • @MekelKasanova
      @MekelKasanova ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@MetalJesusRocks yes this happens a lot of the Switch so it’s a developer issue and not a steam deck issue

    • @jw6588
      @jw6588 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Lately, even physical games have been requiring authentication on the Switch, which had not been a thing for single-player games in the past.

    • @litodat233
      @litodat233 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I’ve never had to be online to play any of my switch games

    • @nathanmead140
      @nathanmead140 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@litodat233 I haven't either but the only games I have for mine are link's awakening, breath of the wild, Pokemon and Minecraft

  • @silverian
    @silverian ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great to hear more details about Steam Deck in different environment where online connection is out of question!

  • @jaydee24
    @jaydee24 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man thank you so much for this video, I travel for work and these were great tips it is going to help me alot in the next few months as i hit the road. I love my deck and I use if for just about everything and this is just a great video for anybody looking to travel with it. thanks for this brother.

  • @sali-ali
    @sali-ali ปีที่แล้ว +3

    DRM doesn't prevent pirates, but it makes the life of real players real hard.

  • @Dracossaint
    @Dracossaint ปีที่แล้ว +13

    just a heads up before this video went live, they've been talking about the offline mode issues and they've even acknowledged it a little bit in patch notes and their working on a solution. But this is going to be a publishing negotiation nightmare

    • @MetalJesusRocks
      @MetalJesusRocks  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Oh really!? That's a statement from Valve!? I'll have to find it. Thanks!

    • @Dracossaint
      @Dracossaint ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@MetalJesusRocks yw
      also to make sure you're aware.
      9:53 there's also a little toggle that's further underneath that. it makes it so any changes you make in that menu is for that specific game, so ya dont have to remember it/turn it off in other games

  • @drmcscroogle240
    @drmcscroogle240 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're doing the lords work my friend. This is video was very informative for myself as I was looking to play this while travelling.

  • @joecrackin3783
    @joecrackin3783 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I love how all these "portable" systems are a pain in the ass to use when using them as a portable. The digital age of gaming is awful. I took my switch on a plain ride and i couldn't play the majority of my games.

    • @BDBD16
      @BDBD16 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      JOE JOE POWER RANGER

    • @MetalJesusRocks
      @MetalJesusRocks  ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Game companies are acting like people should have an internet connection all the time, but there are huge sections when you are driving or flying where that's simply not possible.

    • @Gigabyte1002
      @Gigabyte1002 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      THIS!!! I just made a comment on MJR tweet for this.
      I travel often and the first time I brought my Switch with me it was the worst thing ever. It's overly big, heavy, and most of the games are too involving and long. Then when you get to your destination you have a big paperweight you have to deal with because it's not like you'll be bored and playing games while you're in a cool new place exploring.
      I figured out the perfect solution. Get either something like an Anbernic RG351V or Miyo Mini, a 256gb micro sd, and fill it with every possible old games you can think of. It's much much smaller, lighter, and short bursts of old arcade games are a lot more fun to me.

    • @saluteyourshorts2772
      @saluteyourshorts2772 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Gigabyte1002 dont bring any games , enjoy the trip and look out the plane windows at the flat plane

    • @Gigabyte1002
      @Gigabyte1002 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@saluteyourshorts2772 Games are okay to bring for entertainment, but they can't be such a hassle that it turns into dead weight.
      You can't be only staring out of the window on 10+ hour flights.

  • @timmymeredith7499
    @timmymeredith7499 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The more I see about the steam deck the more I want one

    • @MetalJesusRocks
      @MetalJesusRocks  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The thing is EXCELLENT 99% of the time.

  • @captain_zed
    @captain_zed ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Now you see why we complain about always online DRM.

    • @thetrophysystem3697
      @thetrophysystem3697 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Who was that aimed at? Everyone has always known why we complain about DRM

    • @yone5499
      @yone5499 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@thetrophysystem3697 You would be surprised at what people will defend. I’m surprised you haven’t seen them already

    • @thetrophysystem3697
      @thetrophysystem3697 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yone5499 yeah of course, ive seen a select few but theres always going to be a handful of clueless divvies amongst any group right? :P

    • @captain_zed
      @captain_zed ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thetrophysystem3697 there have been plenty of people over the years saying, "You're always connected anyway, it doesn't matter!"

    • @thetrophysystem3697
      @thetrophysystem3697 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@captain_zed we generally tend to ignore those people and disregard them as clueless morons, im sure there's only about 15 of them worldwide collectively

  • @guilhermeviolin
    @guilhermeviolin ปีที่แล้ว

    Great feedback! I ordered my steam deck and I'm very excited for it, but there sure are things that could improve. I love that Valve is constantly updating it

  • @coinsagE46m3
    @coinsagE46m3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Going cross-country in less than a week and am excited to take my Deck with me. This video answered a lot of questions I had. Thank you!

  • @chrom4ful
    @chrom4ful ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I recently brought my steam deck on 5 hours flight, my solution to these 2 problem is playing bunch of emulators or green-verified steam games, and bring my power bank in case the battery run-out, had a really great time with it those 5 hours felt really fast

    • @Apesedits
      @Apesedits ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Common sense seems to be in short supply with some folk!
      😁

    • @redcrimson1028
      @redcrimson1028 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That's not a solution, that's a workaround you trick your brain into believing the problem doesn't exist lol. News flash! The problem still exist. Having to check in with the Internet to play my games Offline shouldn't be there. It's a portable for crying out loud smh. Video games just isn't the same anymore.

    • @chrom4ful
      @chrom4ful ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@redcrimson1028 news flash, emulator doesn't requires DRM, green-verified games doesn't requires DRM online checking, heck you can even install cracked games on it no online needed, that's the beauty of open hardware, there are tons of SOLUTIONS you can utilize

    • @sagepirotess6312
      @sagepirotess6312 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@redcrimson1028 lol batteries have not evolved since 1980s. So yes common sense would be take a battery pack. Personally I dont even carry any normal batteries, they are so great grandparents generation.

    • @snintendog
      @snintendog ปีที่แล้ว

      @@redcrimson1028 Cant play games on steam with DRM if i dont "buy" them.

  • @JuanD817
    @JuanD817 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    They should add a "home/primary device" option like on consoles so you can link your primary device to be able to play all your games offline without checking online if you really purchased the game.

    • @Patkillskenny
      @Patkillskenny ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's not a steam or client issue per say, it's more of a developer/publisher issue. While steam has an offline mode, it doesn't mean developers and publishers will honor it. Resident evil 2 when it came out you had to be connected to the internet in order to play the single player, if you were offline, you couldn't play it (they also did this for console too until denuvo was removed). Then you have a games that require an external client beyond the default in order to launch the game.

    • @SherrifOfNottingham
      @SherrifOfNottingham ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's amazing how many people are not grasping that the steam DRM is not what prevents you from playing here, it's the third party DRMs that are causing the problem, things that steam cannot control.

  • @BeeJay91
    @BeeJay91 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for letting us know. Ive thinkin bout getting one but after seeing this im gonna wait a lil bit extra

  • @nickthelick
    @nickthelick ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'm very old school, in the fact that I DON'T necessarily WANT to play games online. I prefer to play as a single player and immerse myself in the game's story or it's challenges before I even consider playing with other people.
    I think the ONLY online multiplayer game I've actually played over the last few years is Rocket League! 😊
    The internet has become something I pretty much detest. The only time I really use it is like now, on my phone. Games? 🤔 Nah, no thanks... 🤔
    Christ, I still play my Game Gear when I'm going to be portable/travelling for a few hours. 😁

    • @nickthelick
      @nickthelick ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice to know that I'm not alone in my single player 'loner' gaming!

  • @cencil6497
    @cencil6497 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just pirate the games. Problem solved, no active internet connection required. It's not pirating if you've already purchased those games, which you have :)

  • @ShadowW0lf1
    @ShadowW0lf1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think the offline situation was actually a bug. It was recently fixed with Steam's latest update, but basically even though you would be offline, the game would still think it was connected to the internet and wouldn't let you play the game because of it and in some cases a update option would show even though it's supposed to switch to offline mode. Annoying problem that finally got addressed. So hopefully it's fixed now.

  • @Danzig420
    @Danzig420 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you MJR! These are the kinda videos the people need!!!

  • @Life_Leveler
    @Life_Leveler ปีที่แล้ว

    Just got mine today! I can’t wait to use it

  • @qlum
    @qlum ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Never had issues with this on the games I happened to play, but I can fully agree with it being stupid.
    I personally use my steam deck on the train to and from work, which also means I am using it offline.
    I would even go as far as to say, I only connect my deck to the internet once every week or so, as everything I play on it has to work offline anyway.
    Another issue here is that it can take some time for steam to figure out it has no internet connection before launching.

  • @mattt4374
    @mattt4374 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yes these are legit problems with the Deck. I travel to places that don’t have great internet for work so it’s not just an “airplane” problem. I find myself playing more emulation at those times which helps both problems. At least the deck is flexible

  • @nddugas
    @nddugas ปีที่แล้ว

    I have had my Steam Deck for several months and it never ceases to amaze me at what it can do. Most recently I have been playing Spider-Man Remastered and FFVII Remake Intergrade, as well as Control and (on a separate microSD with Windows 10) Destiny 2.

  • @elvingarcia3820
    @elvingarcia3820 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi love your video Im a big fan!! Also im happy you are doing better! Take care God bless!

  • @James-gj8rn
    @James-gj8rn ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm still waiting on Valve so i can put my order in, it's such a long wait man, once i've ordered it, i'll get more PC games (i have plenty already but the convenience of being able to have more demanding games portable is so cool man) :)

  • @yuotube011
    @yuotube011 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've had mine for 2 weeks now. My biggest issue is the steam laucher constantly disconnects from the internet and won't launch games. I have to put it into "offline" mode and then back into "online" to get it to reconnect. Turning wifi on and off doesn't help.

  • @offthebeatenpathoutdoors1894
    @offthebeatenpathoutdoors1894 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Picked up a 96 page cd book today from my local Goodwill here in Iowa that was almost full of PS2 Games. They literally just put it out with a $4 sticker on it. They must not of looked inside for some reason or assumed it was cd’s. Games go for $4/piece here normally, with/without cases. It was a dream pickup and I was inspired to check there after i had watched your pickup videos! Thanks, MJR! Love binging the pickups!

    • @411sponge72
      @411sponge72 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Congrats!! You got the jackpot there!

    • @offthebeatenpathoutdoors1894
      @offthebeatenpathoutdoors1894 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@411sponge72 Thank you! It was one of those lucky finds that only happen once in a while! I don’t usually find much, but it’s best feeling when you do! Keeps you stopping by those garage sales and Goodwills!

  • @paolaanimator
    @paolaanimator ปีที่แล้ว

    Just saw this video on my Steam Deck in Desktop mode. I carry a portable Anker battery too. I will be traveling after the holidays to see my family. This video is helpful 👍 I love my Steam Deck already, just got it yesterday.

  • @ericbarlow6772
    @ericbarlow6772 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    When the DRM interferes with your ability to play a game it actually encourages you to pirate or crack the copy of the game. This will lead to viruses, root kits, and other ways to compromise your security, steal your data, and encourage cybercrime.
    I have had my steam deck for a few weeks and I really enjoy it. I do have an iPad I use as a WiFi hotspot when I need it. I have it mainly for work but also as a contingency plan to ensure I have more than one way to communicate.

    • @shadowflash705
      @shadowflash705 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely. During the SecuROM/StarForce era I was very careful about buying PC games as those DRM were capable of breaking your OS and didn't work with every drive. So when I heard that game use those it was like nope, it's time to raise the jolly roger.

  • @dlang6487
    @dlang6487 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just went flying with it and I agree it's not perfect, but what helped me was knowing which games I wanted to play ahead of time. Then, it was an enjoyable experience.

    • @MetalJesusRocks
      @MetalJesusRocks  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, that's kinda what I'm getting at here. Sadly, it's not like the Switch where nearly every game works offline with no fuss... On the Steam Deck, it really depends on the game and developer

    • @dlang6487
      @dlang6487 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MetalJesusRocks Couldn't agree more! 👍

  • @rodrigopimentel9380
    @rodrigopimentel9380 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a beautiful piece of technology this little thing is!!

  • @JiaNaDaRen15
    @JiaNaDaRen15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pre-ordered mine at the end of March and just got the notification that it was ready for purchase this Monday :)

  • @thebodybeatdownDiTi
    @thebodybeatdownDiTi ปีที่แล้ว +3

    its basically the problem with having everything digital. Either give us the games 100% offline play or maybe not even offer them in the first place. People want to own what they buy. You should never have to have internet connection to play games.Ever..

  • @Raw-guitar
    @Raw-guitar ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Game on .🎮

  • @p4uli016
    @p4uli016 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love Metal Jesus travel videos

  • @alex64gaming
    @alex64gaming ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looks like I need to put down my switch on the next vacation!

  • @glebkorniyenko1084
    @glebkorniyenko1084 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yeah, way to go EA to prevent piracy by making non pirated games more cumbersome and annoying to play than the pirated copies

  • @InsidesGames
    @InsidesGames ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I absolutely agree with everything you've said in this video. Unfortunately though, most of the things are out of Valve's hands. They can only do so much. As for the whole launcher thing, they can only really suggest that gaming companies support their handheld. That said I think it's only a matter of time for game devs to consider supporting the Deck more as it becomes even more popular than it already is.
    I mean Steam IS the launcher. It IS the DRM, why does EA choose to force Origin down our throats? 💀

    • @gdbros_35
      @gdbros_35 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      because EA are a horrible company

  • @dochasseniori3517
    @dochasseniori3517 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video ❤

  • @marco.pereira
    @marco.pereira ปีที่แล้ว

    Great informative vídeo.

  • @destebangm11216
    @destebangm11216 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I just don't see how could valve fix the DRM without finantial incentives tbh. I think a possible solution could be that valve gives developers an extra 5% of revenue split per game sold if their game is verified and has no internet connection required if it is a single player /coop game, and if the game is a multiplayer title to get that 5% the game needs to be verified and the anti cheat must support SteamOS. I think it could be a pretty nice incentive for developers to avoid using denuvo or stuff like that but I doubt valve would do it.... but other than that I don't see how valve could fix it, they said they are working on improving tge offline mode but the problem is with the games themselves :/

  • @tosvus
    @tosvus ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I think the best you can hope for is that Steam has a list/filter that shows only offline mode capable games.

  • @tyo101
    @tyo101 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks, MetalJesus!

  • @OO-nb2kt
    @OO-nb2kt ปีที่แล้ว

    You’re bringing up great points!

  • @calebpribyl5152
    @calebpribyl5152 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So I was thinking about getting Scott pilgrim vs the world on ps4 is this game any good?

    • @michaelmyersplays4992
      @michaelmyersplays4992 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It’s good bro if your into beat ‘em up games

    • @ragdolsaboveaverage
      @ragdolsaboveaverage ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No… it’s very boring and unnecessarily difficult at times

    • @ragdolsaboveaverage
      @ragdolsaboveaverage ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The music is good though

    • @michaelmyersplays4992
      @michaelmyersplays4992 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ragdolsaboveaverage boring ? Don’t listen to him Caleb

    • @James-gj8rn
      @James-gj8rn ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@michaelmyersplays4992 yeah not boring at all, challenging at times but the challenge is fun

  • @ProcyonAlpha
    @ProcyonAlpha ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Not really a fault of the steam deck by the sounds of it? More like idiot devs putting DRM shit on their games.

    • @jpixels4042
      @jpixels4042 ปีที่แล้ว

      This! ^^^ The steam deck is a pc, not a console. He should be comparing a laptop to this and not a switch or a vita.

  • @CoolerQ
    @CoolerQ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For Heroic Games Launcher you should right-click on the game and add the individual games to the Steam launcher. This is also important to get different controller settings for each game.

  • @CheapGearJunkRiffs
    @CheapGearJunkRiffs ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude those riffs in the outro are heavy 🤘🏻😳🤘🏻

  • @photogineer951
    @photogineer951 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Don’t buy games from publishers that require active internet for offline play. It’s not a Valve or Steam Deck problem. Pay attention to what you’re buying and don’t criticize Steam for not being able to run these games. Vote with your wallet and buy from better companies.

  • @dcortes92
    @dcortes92 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks for bringing up these issues. A portable console should not have any of these problems since it defeats its main purpose. Hopefully they patch them soon.

  • @Evercade_Effect
    @Evercade_Effect ปีที่แล้ว

    Great feedback! I hope Valve is listening.

  • @Dezeberbro
    @Dezeberbro ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought one Not too long ago and I love the system so far I can play all the games bought from steam deck offline.

  • @carlos2004
    @carlos2004 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i think this one of those problems that wasn't really a big deal for most users before the steam deck was a thing. in a normal pc gaming scenario you always had internet connectivity. however, i think devs will start implementing ways for the games to more steam deck friendly. another good example of this is how current games have huge install sizes since they come with high res textures that will never be used for the steamdeck. with some time, i think they'll start offering different install packs which fit the lower resolution/lower storage of the deck better.

  • @redcrimson1028
    @redcrimson1028 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That having to log in option with the internet shouldn't be there at all. Valve still has a lot to learn about portable handhelds. Handhelds should have no restrictions

    • @JustinCatalano
      @JustinCatalano ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They have a lot to learn? You need to learn how licensing and hosting agreements work lol
      Valve cant circumvent protections selected by publishers.
      What a clown.

    • @marcosayase
      @marcosayase ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JustinCatalano They do have a long run ahead with handhelds indeed

    • @jpixels4042
      @jpixels4042 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JustinCatalano Exactly! This is a small inconvenience, I suppose it would be better if valve didn’t include any game with drm on steam? The same people would be complaining that they don’t have those games on the platform. Don’t really understand the battery argument either, play a demanding title on switch and the battery tanks. But with the switch you have no way to extend your battery drain. This isn’t a portable console it’s a freaking PC that is way more flexible. I suppose packing a huge laptop is a lot more convenient for MJR. Heaven forbid you play a game a 30fps on the steam deck! When the switch has a hard time even running a stable 30 on lots of games, nvm AAA titles.

    • @martinrusso409
      @martinrusso409 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JustinCatalano Who are you kidding? You don't know licensing either. Yes they can. They can impose a rule stating single player games should be offline. They're the biggest online game distribution site.

    • @martinrusso409
      @martinrusso409 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jpixels4042 How about not being a fanboy for a sec and not defend bs practices for the sake of defending them. Get your head out of ur a and stop being a snowflake. The dude simply pointed out the battery situation. He didn't trash the steam deck and say it was bad. He clearly said he enjoys it. It's called constructive criticism.

  • @livio-lucianodenhartog5946
    @livio-lucianodenhartog5946 ปีที่แล้ว

    you know what would be nice. 2 video's a week from metal jesus

  • @TheAdventurersLounge
    @TheAdventurersLounge ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the review jason

  • @SherrifOfNottingham
    @SherrifOfNottingham ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This video is misinforming people pretty bad, most people are not understanding that this is not an issue with the steam deck, this is an issue with game devs using repugnant DRM and always online third party launchers.
    Once you get a token for a steam game you are able to play it offline anytime you want. The issue is third party developers, the fact that steam has done the legwork for some of them really shows their commitment to making a good platform, so don't blame it for bad faith developers and publishers that are causing this issue, because those developers are causing these issues.

    • @MetalJesusRocks
      @MetalJesusRocks  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I feel it's worth mentioning because these games are currently for sale on the Steam Deck store. That's why it needs to be way more visible to the limitations when you don't have an internet connection.

    • @SherrifOfNottingham
      @SherrifOfNottingham ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MetalJesusRocks I mean is that really what you want? A hyper limited system unable to attempt to run games until steam goes in and manually verifies them and gets devs to nix the third party launchers and always online DRM?
      It's not the decks fault these games have issues, and limiting deck owners from being able to play the games at all is not the answer.

  • @michael_stout79
    @michael_stout79 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Watching this on the pooper

  • @BrianJones-wk8cx
    @BrianJones-wk8cx ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your perspective! Critique can be caring, and even as a passionate fan of the Deck myself, I think it’s only healthy and honest to acknowledge that the device isn’t without its flaws. I just received mine last week and am loving it. Part of what I love is the problem solving and tinkering that is possible, but of course that cuts both ways as certain issues just don’t exist on less open platforms. I appreciate your thoughts!

  • @MusicFromAnotherTime
    @MusicFromAnotherTime ปีที่แล้ว

    The background music of the first part of this video was getting me super fucking hyped to boot into menus.

  • @michaelmyersplays4992
    @michaelmyersplays4992 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In metal Jesus we trust

  • @gamesandstuff7724
    @gamesandstuff7724 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The problem with setting a timer when offline is that you have to use the system time, which may not be accurate, since it can be changed.

    • @gothamindembaum
      @gothamindembaum 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No timers can be written that don’t depend on this

  • @KingArakonGaming
    @KingArakonGaming ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent and informative video definitely appreciate it, I love my steam deck and took it with me to Gameon this year. I finally played Detroit: become human and had a great experience only issue I had was getting my apple air pod pros hooked up to it took forever.

  • @SSIops
    @SSIops ปีที่แล้ว

    I will be flying 30+ hours next year. Plan on getting a Steam Deck. This was really helpful information, thank you!

  • @Ghost-Matrix
    @Ghost-Matrix ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Don't really see how you can blame the steam deck for problems with third party launchers. It's designed to run steam games, anything outside of that is just a bonus. Imo

    • @Stormy2142
      @Stormy2142 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jason is a nice guy but he's not a particularly sharp knife in the drawer

    • @CarbonPanther
      @CarbonPanther ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Neither are you two lol
      He literally said in the beginning that he wants to bring attention to this as a general issue, not just with the Deck.

  • @acecarrera1
    @acecarrera1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So, your Steam Deck ran out of steam.
    I see myself out.

  • @chriscox3709
    @chriscox3709 ปีที่แล้ว

    From the title I thought there was a problem with Steam Deck. That is a very fixable software problem. Love this channel. 👍

  • @crowfather3838
    @crowfather3838 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I see Vampire The Masquerade Redemption and Bloodlines on there. You are a man of culture I see.

  • @metalwolfy82
    @metalwolfy82 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bit harsh complaining about the steam deck for community launchers and origin. Its only built to run steam games, if other launchers want to support it then its up to them. The wifi issue does seem like a thing that will get fixed fairly quickly as it seems like an oversight.

    • @MetalJesusRocks
      @MetalJesusRocks  ปีที่แล้ว

      EA Origin games are available for sale in the Store area of Steam Deck.

    • @metalwolfy82
      @metalwolfy82 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MetalJesusRocks fair point, however thats the point of the Deck rating if its sold through steam. It is not Steams fault if EA get them to sell a game that fires up origin before starting and it would be squarely up to them to fix issues. That said you clearly show launching from Origin Launcher in desktop mode, which is the point I was making. I would be interested to know if this is specific to steam os/linux or if you try the same thing with a computer running windows. Either way keep up the good videos :) I spotted a game I'd not seen before and want to try so was worth watching even if I don't agree with all your points :)

  • @Kevin-sl3gk
    @Kevin-sl3gk ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really not much Valve can do to prevent publishers pushing DRM / launchers. This is why I don't buy games that have Denuvo and games that have 3rd party launchers, really ruins the plug n play experience Steam Deck offers.

    • @Juice-ig3jz
      @Juice-ig3jz ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s not a helpful comment. If anything it’s self righteous. People like you are really weird to me. Thanks Kevin.

  • @stevemedinajr1618
    @stevemedinajr1618 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the steam deck so much I bought another one on Aug 18-22 and got the time to buy email on sep 22-22 less then a month for 512gb can't wait for it to come in

  • @DemonicSkyle
    @DemonicSkyle ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The weirdest thing, I had to look up a workaround for playing offline mode. There was a reddit post where the user said, sync the game up first on wifi at home, do not turn on offline mode, just turn off the wifi itself, and it works just fine. I learned my lesson when taking the steam deck on the go and couldn't play anything.

  • @Adderallistheonlyway
    @Adderallistheonlyway ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Not interested at all in the deck. Switch with powerbanks is all I need

    • @yone5499
      @yone5499 ปีที่แล้ว

      But can the switch play Kirby Airride on the go?

    • @Adderallistheonlyway
      @Adderallistheonlyway ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yone5499 guess I wouldn't know I don't play that casual crap lol jk🤣🤣😝😝🤪

  • @thetrophysystem3697
    @thetrophysystem3697 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Portable system that has major portability issues..... so close yet so far, but no cigar

  • @jessethigpen3157
    @jessethigpen3157 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the update on the deck, I’ve been wondering how it would play with no internet connection

  • @IRWPD
    @IRWPD ปีที่แล้ว

    When I do get my hands on one. Going to have to check out the Heroic Launcher.

  • @jub8891
    @jub8891 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You know what we need more of? First world problems 😝

    • @MetalJesusRocks
      @MetalJesusRocks  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Pretty much every tech review would fall into this category, right? 😉

  • @josegalan9082
    @josegalan9082 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you because i was not aware of this before, now im not sure i want one

  • @Mmmmmk247
    @Mmmmmk247 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m glad you mentioned this… actually I wish I knew this before I even preordered a deck. I was planning to play on the road with my deck for a while. Just got it today, and now I’ll have to deal with it

    • @SherrifOfNottingham
      @SherrifOfNottingham ปีที่แล้ว

      What?
      God this video is filling people with misinformation, most games do not have this issue, this is an issue exclusive to third party launchers and DRM. Most of the steam library works great on the go.

  • @CraigHlavka
    @CraigHlavka ปีที่แล้ว

    yep, thanks for sharing info. I got mine 1 year after I put in the reserve. It's very cool. I'm replaying Alan Wake. I'm glad to hear that a V2 is in the works for the steam deck. just can't sit in a dedicated room to play games.. I need to be laying on a couch.. ya know! :)

  • @StabStabStabStabby
    @StabStabStabStabby ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got my steamdeck after 13 months of waiting. It's amazing to run such high fidelity games in this form factor.
    And the size of the steamdeck is not an issue. They very cleverly put the majority of the weight in the palm of your hands so it doesn't feel heavy. I've played this for hours without my hands or arms feeling tired.
    Battery life is an issue but that's honestly unavoidable. Currently no batteries are good enough to run something this powerful for hours on end without simply being massive.

  • @FightNightFellow
    @FightNightFellow ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Getting mine Tuesday, was already aware of needing a portable charger, it's 2022 everyone should have at least a 10,000mah brick.
    I don't agree with the whole "24-48 hours to launch the game in offline mode" deal, if it's a game you purchased and own you should be able to play it whenever you want

  • @raulventura7295
    @raulventura7295 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't wait for the steam deck 2 and thanks to people like this with passion and a feel to make things better.

    • @marksapollo
      @marksapollo ปีที่แล้ว

      Rumours are saying the next Steam Deck may be based around game streaming, so it’ll be worst.

    • @jpixels4042
      @jpixels4042 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marksapollo Sweet baby Jesus I hope not!

  • @manny3273
    @manny3273 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the way to do it is have it authenticate the entire library once a week automatically so offline can work