I graduated high school in 1995. The military recruiters were relentless with me. Relentless with my mother. Everyone wanted me to go to an academy. I had no interest. I finally started answering the phone and asking, "Does Don't Ask Don't Tell apply to your program?" As soon as I asked, they never called again.
hahahahah great response, James! Unfortunately, I didn't even have that choice (if I would have, how things may have been different!) as DNDT didn't exist - Bush Sr, was still the president and the very thought of being gay in the military and violating the UCMJ would get you in Leavenworth for a number of years. Lucky you for such a great, thoughtful response!
@@atlbrysco6198 He never cared about your homosexuality. He and Reagan watched as people died of AIDS. They only acted in 1985 when many died and rolled out the drugs in 1986 but when Bush Sr became president, he cut HIV/AIDS research costs. Thanks to Truvada, the rate of HIV/AIDS transmission has gone down.
@@rickardkaufman3988 Rikard - let me first say I apologize it took me so long to respond; I wasn't even aware you had made a comment on this thread until tonight. You are correct that Reagan and Bush Sr (as well as Clinton to a degree) and Bush Jr did nothing for us. Further, the statement you made about Truvada is correct. However, the rates of HIV/AIDS were going down long before Truvada thanks to the amazing work that the community was doing in promoting safe sex and giving out condoms, etc. By the way - Truvada is great - but the true "drug therapy" that helped make the number infected going down was the "cocktail" (known as HAART) - a mixture of drugs that lowered the viral load that was killing people. Truvada is the next generation of the cocktail. Regardless, we are making progress killing the virus. With the help of Truvada (even as PreP) we are making great strides against the virus - hopefully it continues! Thanks for your comment!
McCarthyism is still affecting us today. It’s amazing how many people call me or others a communist. The propaganda against communists was so strong, my dad became terrified of it at the end with his brain tumor and brain cancer.
We need more films/ documentaries like this to educate even our own community because I am often hearing: " why do we need pride and visibility?" Well it sums exactly the reason WHY! Kudos to everyone who has resisted the persecution and shame on those who broke so many lives and their dreams.
I think it is disgraceful to be hateful and unjust towards anyone’s preference of who they choose to love. Who cares what people doing in private that’s their business. Discrimination needs to stop. We all have blood running through our veins and it doesn’t matter what blood type or the color of a persons skin. Thank you for creating this informative bit of history. Bless y’all.
Young people, gay, black, or white should get a better understanding of the sacrifices that people have made so they can have the freedoms, they take for granted in today's world. Whether it's for gay rights, or for the right to cast your vote. Is that the American way ? I know, I know, the young think it has always been this way... History shows it hasn't....
Sadly the sacrifices are unknown to many LGBTQ youth. Also many have no knowledge of the horrors of the AIDS crisis in the 1980s and 90s as they have the attitude ‘That was before my time’.
Dr. Johnson taught me how to improve my writing when I was in grad school. I cannot thank Dr. Johnson enough. He is a phenomenal teacher and a great human being.
@Pod Johnson is a professor in the History Department at the University of South Florida where he teaches courses on the post-1945 U.S. and the history of gender and sexuality.
American history is full of these forgotten truths. In America it's ok to be different in many ways, though the religious right doesn't try to understand. Many of the people covered in the story would give up their lives for America, and many did. Their struggle is no different than the one's Black, Hispanic, Jewish, Muslim, Women and Native Americans still deal with today. They seek respect, dignity, and protection under the law. They are not criminals, they are human beings.
Can you blame gays for being in the closet in the 1950's after this news show?? How much did we lose because of the lavender scare? Any type of discrimination is wrong, but it still is here. Maybe not practiced in the same way, but l get it every day because of my disablities. I didn't ask to be born like this, but l was. But l know what it is like to be discriminated against as do many others born like me. I can't find a lawyer eighter.
Thank you for Highlighting my comment. At least my comment wasn't deleted due to it being called hate speech. If you are not accommodated for your disabilies, it is damn near impossible to rise in our society. Thank you for letting my text stand.
@@natashasemrau3670 It's true. The disabled are still badly left, poorly - if ever - accommodated to in America. There are few disable-friendly places. And too much insensitivity towards the group.
@@jbak87 Or how about the ones that have been mentally unstable thanks to abusive moms like me? We don't get much treatment either, so we all 3 are on the same boat, we just have some differences.
@@ExtremeWreck I too can be mentally unstable, which is why I don't work and rely on my family. Yes, people with our challenges are not as accommodated but the disabled have it worst.
@@jbak87 What you said really makes me thankful that you're at least here to talk about your experiences because I hope that you'll be able to find better treatment someday.
Thank you, Mr. Rocca, for this report. Sadly, it reminds us that history is repeating itself as fear continues to be stoked by this president in practically every aspect of our government. Thank God for Justin Amash, who has some integrity to speak truth to power. Lord knows that the rest of the Republicans are too afraid to do so.
What an important report! We should never forget the struggles of the early pioneers, activists, and heroes who fought for LGBTQ rights. www.queercafe.net
All the talented gay men and women that lost their jobs, talented people that would have served this country and made it stronger. What a shame it is still going on with Trump. VOTE DEMOCRAT IN 2020!!
@Stuart Lee - It's Roy COHN, you idiot! By the way, Cohn was a pathetic scoundrel who once worked with McCarthy and later represented Donald Trump in the 1980's, I believe! Your comment does little to help when the vast majority of LGBT people were persecuted, oppressed, victimized, discriminated and even murdered for their sexual orientation and gender identity!
Sid, rather a gay than a malignant narcissist, pathological liar, mysogynist, xenophobic, arrogant bully, probable tax evader, probably crooked businessman, admitted sexual predator (grab em...), and... I welcome anyone to add to this incomplete list.
Here's another "lavender scare': In the early 60's when I was less than 10 years old my family was stationed in Paris, France. I used to steal Cokes from the refrigerator (we lived on the economy (non-military residency)). . .sugar rush, baby bottle, exhilaration from being held was the thrill. I would lie (prevaricate) about my thefts. The parents would make me watch while my siblings were punished for what I did. We were transferred to Arizona. I was led (by a friend) to where a Coke machine was in a field at a metal building across the street from a water tower . . . in the desert. We could reach up into this 'vending' machine and pull Coke bottles out. 30 miles away was an open-pit copper mine . . . Lavender Pit . . . la-vendor pit? They were making me into a thief so that they could punish me for stealing. They're still doing it to this day. The lavender scare. Thousands and thousands of times. I think they use me as a fulcrum to determine the day's festivities.
Gay rights is pretty new and can quite easily be rolled back. If Roe v Wade is a 50 year precedent and can be gone in a flash, don't think the same can't happen with gay rights. Right wingers are working hard as we speak to do so.
The gay rights movement was started mostly by the actions of Black Trans Women in New York but like everything in history the White man HAS to be included and take credibility for someone else's work. Cool story tho......
David camaney was a GAY whire man. And these brave actions took place way before stonewall riots. Credit where credit is due. That is not to Discount the amazing contributions of black Trans women who never had a closet to hide in in the first place and have always been very courageous.
@@frankpeter6851 The Stonewall Inn riots of 1969 were definitely a turning point for the L.G.B.T community not just in New York City but across the country. Unfortunately, there were several attacks on establishments that catered to the L.G.B.T community in the 20th century; the most well-known attack was the fire at the UpStairs Lounge in New Orleans, Louisiana in June of 1973.
Yes they did fight hard for equality very hard. A lot of the gay people growing up today have no idea what the past gay folk had to endure and that hurts I miss the old days myself
Thinking of WW2 ..We just commemorated D-DAY..IT TOOK ALL TRUE AMERICANS TO WIN THAT WAR!!! IT'S GOING TO TAKE ALL AMERICANS TO TAKE US SAFELY INTO THE FUTURE FOR OUR CHILDREN AND THEIR CHILDREN...AND BEYOND!! THE FUTURE BELONGS TO THE BRAVE!!!🇺🇸
I just read a true story of a lady that came out of that. She says that it stems from being rejected as children and the need to fit in. America needs prayer so we can heal.
@Cody Murphy , hate gets you nowhere in life. The lady I am talking about was deeply involved in with some really bad people. Please grow up and expand and grow maybe compassion for other human beings besides yourself.
Gay folks' damn existence was illegal until 2003 or so. Hate crimes and persecution against them have still been a thing for ??? years and counting. Stop with your "more-opressed-than-thou" type of whataboutism. When rights of POC comes up, we will mention the "persecuted for 400 years and counting" thing.
The Red Scare was based on fact, there were are lot of Communists in the Government. We had just come through 16 years of a very left wing Democrat government that had many "reds" (as they used to call them) in high places in the government. The fact that homosexual leftists were caught up in this had less to do with their sexual persuasion than the fact they were "fellow travelers" of the USSR. And in those days, homosexuals could be blackmailed by Soviets to perform spying tasks to support the Russians.
Gay privilege? Explain what you think that is please. I think you're confused with white hetero male privilege. Walk into any business and look even a little bit gay and see if you're treated with anything resembling privilege!!
Gay privilege is when you're gay, and can pass as straight. That's how I know from experience, in a way, know how incredibly easy life is for straight people.
I’m don’t have hate or bias against the gay but I don’t like how they parade around or I cannot accept the hate ,bias and rebellious way nor do I accept their bias hate and disrespect for out President and God. Years ago for years they had methods by doctors which I don’t think it was Humana now they do have rights my friends that are gay they live and are very respectful their are so so respectful , now we have the transgender they have this bill out the equality act now there is several issue that are not good for woman young girls or parents several parents are fightning in America that the doctors took right over and parents have no longer rights over their children as young as 7 years old if the doctor ask the child are you ok with your gender and the child says no the doctor takes over your child look it up you will understand what that act is all about. We need to be careful that the children are not use for guinea pigs. ✊🇺🇸😎
I graduated high school in 1995. The military recruiters were relentless with me. Relentless with my mother. Everyone wanted me to go to an academy. I had no interest. I finally started answering the phone and asking, "Does Don't Ask Don't Tell apply to your program?" As soon as I asked, they never called again.
Army recruiter called & asked to speak to my daughter. I said "You don't want her, she's gay." They hung up. (Mid 2000s)
hahahahah great response, James! Unfortunately, I didn't even have that choice (if I would have, how things may have been different!) as DNDT didn't exist - Bush Sr, was still the president and the very thought of being gay in the military and violating the UCMJ would get you in Leavenworth for a number of years.
Lucky you for such a great, thoughtful response!
@@atlbrysco6198 He never cared about your homosexuality. He and Reagan watched as people died of AIDS. They only acted in 1985 when many died and rolled out the drugs in 1986 but when Bush Sr became president, he cut HIV/AIDS research costs. Thanks to Truvada, the rate of HIV/AIDS transmission has gone down.
@@rickardkaufman3988 Rikard - let me first say I apologize it took me so long to respond; I wasn't even aware you had made a comment on this thread until tonight. You are correct that Reagan and Bush Sr (as well as Clinton to a degree) and Bush Jr did nothing for us. Further, the statement you made about Truvada is correct. However, the rates of HIV/AIDS were going down long before Truvada thanks to the amazing work that the community was doing in promoting safe sex and giving out condoms, etc. By the way - Truvada is great - but the true "drug therapy" that helped make the number infected going down was the "cocktail" (known as HAART) - a mixture of drugs that lowered the viral load that was killing people. Truvada is the next generation of the cocktail.
Regardless, we are making progress killing the virus. With the help of Truvada (even as PreP) we are making great strides against the virus - hopefully it continues!
Thanks for your comment!
I'm over 60 and Im just hearing about this today! Thank you CBC Sunday Morning.
Never too late to learn! 👍🧚♀️
@trixie beldon - It's CBS, trixie. Not CBC.
McCarthyism is still affecting us today. It’s amazing how many people call me or others a communist. The propaganda against communists was so strong, my dad became terrified of it at the end with his brain tumor and brain cancer.
We need more films/ documentaries like this to educate even our own community because I am often hearing: " why do we need pride and visibility?" Well it sums exactly the reason WHY! Kudos to everyone who has resisted the persecution and shame on those who broke so many lives and their dreams.
So many heroes I've never heard of... thank thank you for this.
Just realized...is this that much different from the Trump trans ban?
So I guess this rule didn't apply to John Edgar Hoover, and the other elitists.
Of course not. Republicans never have thought the rules apply to them. Just look at what's happening in DC right now.
Elitists isn't really an appropriate term. Right-wing authoritarians is more accurate.
Yet they had Hoover..........
...who was passing as a straight white male, when he was actually a gay, African American male.
I think it is disgraceful to be hateful and unjust towards anyone’s preference of who they choose to love. Who cares what people doing in private that’s their business. Discrimination needs to stop. We all have blood running through our veins and it doesn’t matter what blood type or the color of a persons skin. Thank you for creating this informative bit of history. Bless y’all.
Young people, gay, black, or white should get a better understanding of the sacrifices that people have made so they can have the freedoms, they take for granted in today's world. Whether it's for gay rights, or for the right to cast your vote. Is that the American way ? I know, I know, the young think it has always been this way... History shows it hasn't....
Thank your for your intelligent insight!!! If we didnt learn our lesson from WW 2 and its aftermath ..then we are in deep trouble!!!
.
@Daimon Mario Perez Amen.
Daimon Mario Perez Exactly 👏🏼
AMEN TO THAT.
Sadly the sacrifices are unknown to many LGBTQ youth. Also many have no knowledge of the horrors of the AIDS crisis in the 1980s and 90s as they have the attitude ‘That was before my time’.
Dr. Johnson taught me how to improve my writing when I was in grad school. I cannot thank Dr. Johnson enough. He is a phenomenal teacher and a great human being.
@Pod David K. Johnson is the author of the book _The Lavender Scare_ featured in this segment.
@Pod Johnson is a professor in the History Department at the University of South Florida where he teaches courses on the post-1945 U.S. and the history of gender and sexuality.
Thank you CBS for putting a light on this.
The fear, hatred and bigotry are still in the Federal government. Policies have changed, but many people's attitudes haven't.
American history is full of these forgotten truths. In America it's ok to be different in many ways, though the religious right doesn't try to understand. Many of the people covered in the story would give up their lives for America, and many did. Their struggle is no different than the one's Black, Hispanic, Jewish, Muslim, Women and Native Americans still deal with today. They seek respect, dignity, and protection under the law. They are not criminals, they are human beings.
Can you blame gays for being in the closet in the 1950's after this news show?? How much did we lose because of the lavender scare? Any type of discrimination is wrong, but it still is here. Maybe not practiced in the same way, but l get it every day because of my disablities. I didn't ask to be born like this, but l was. But l know what it is like to be discriminated against as do many others born like me. I can't find a lawyer eighter.
Thank you for Highlighting my comment. At least my comment wasn't deleted due to it being called hate speech. If you are not accommodated for your disabilies, it is damn near impossible to rise in our society. Thank you for letting my text stand.
@@natashasemrau3670
It's true. The disabled are still badly left, poorly - if ever - accommodated to in America. There are few disable-friendly places. And too much insensitivity towards the group.
@@jbak87 Or how about the ones that have been mentally unstable thanks to abusive moms like me? We don't get much treatment either, so we all 3 are on the same boat, we just have some differences.
@@ExtremeWreck
I too can be mentally unstable, which is why I don't work and rely on my family. Yes, people with our challenges are not as accommodated but the disabled have it worst.
@@jbak87 What you said really makes me thankful that you're at least here to talk about your experiences because I hope that you'll be able to find better treatment someday.
Thank you, Mr. Rocca, for this report. Sadly, it reminds us that history is repeating itself as fear continues to be stoked by this president in practically every aspect of our government. Thank God for Justin Amash, who has some integrity to speak truth to power. Lord knows that the rest of the Republicans are too afraid to do so.
🏳️🌈 #walkaway
What an important report! We should never forget the struggles of the early pioneers, activists, and heroes who fought for LGBTQ rights. www.queercafe.net
Promoting your site? Not on social media?
All the talented gay men and women that lost their jobs, talented people that would have served this country and made it stronger. What a shame it is still going on with Trump. VOTE DEMOCRAT IN 2020!!
Here here!! 👍👍👍👍👍
Soul sister I couldn't have said that any better 💔
Nice AMI G120 (1956) jukebox at 2:52.
Like witch trials. Such a shame our country is heading backwards today.
since TH-cam got rid of these hate speech platforms, it seems like they've all moved to the comment section.
nah, basement dwellers have always been in youtube's comment section.
@@Gee-xb7rt
True... But seems like an uptick.
Sadly, and perhaps, the orlando massacre date has become a day of targetting gay people.
pence would reenact this.
Lol right????
amazing with Cohen sitting next to him....amazing!!!
@hairyscotman - It's Roy COHN.
you are CORRECT, Sir....I had not had my coffee....he was the biggest MO around....
(not that there's anything wrong with that)
@@robertpolanco1973
ROY COHEN WAS A PATRIOT!
HONEY, HE SHOWED THAT YOU CAN BE GAY AND A PATRIOT!!!!
@Stuart Lee - It's Roy COHN, you idiot! By the way, Cohn was a pathetic scoundrel who once worked with McCarthy and later represented Donald Trump in the 1980's, I believe! Your comment does little to help when the vast majority of LGBT people were persecuted, oppressed, victimized, discriminated and even murdered for their sexual orientation and gender identity!
Cohn === Self-loathing hypocrite.
To think in 2020 we have the possibility for a openly gay veteran to become president of this nation #Pete2020
Sid, rather a gay than a malignant narcissist, pathological liar, mysogynist, xenophobic, arrogant bully, probable tax evader, probably crooked businessman, admitted sexual predator (grab em...), and... I welcome anyone to add to this incomplete list.
🏳️🌈 #walkaway
The good ole days weren't so good. The Lavender Scare story reminds us that, yes, America has been Fascist about minorities in the past.
I understand the world my parents grew up in a little more. Its not just "a different time" it really was a truly different country.
Love is love.
Sex is not always love.
Pedophilia?
It was the US government that blackmailed gays at that time.
This could be the basis of a great movie.
Thank you!
Shameful. When will it become clear that the finger pointers are always the sick ones.
S.H.A.M.E.F.U.L.
Why didn't someone straighten his blue shirt collar before they filmed him?
Screening this month on on PBS. Find stations and air times for _The Lavender Scare_ in your area. tracmedia.com/lol/LavenderScare/
could have sorted out that guy's collar.....damn.
So difficult situation. They couldn't ask for help from families and authorities because they were in the closet.
and just yesterday I saw the NSA recruitment booth at Washington DC's gay pride festival
Move in with Bob Wells@CRVL
Here's another "lavender scare': In the early 60's when I was less than 10 years old my family was stationed in Paris, France. I used to steal Cokes from the refrigerator (we lived on the economy (non-military residency)). . .sugar rush, baby bottle, exhilaration from being held was the thrill. I would lie (prevaricate) about my thefts. The parents would make me watch while my siblings were punished for what I did. We were transferred to Arizona. I was led (by a friend) to where a Coke machine was in a field at a metal building across the street from a water tower . . . in the desert. We could reach up into this 'vending' machine and pull Coke bottles out. 30 miles away was an open-pit copper mine . . . Lavender Pit . . . la-vendor pit? They were making me into a thief so that they could punish me for stealing. They're still doing it to this day. The lavender scare. Thousands and thousands of times. I think they use me as a fulcrum to determine the day's festivities.
Good story. Side issue: the guy in the dark jacket has half of his collar folded inside of his jacket. Nobody told him?
THIS means EVERYTHING. ‘Share’ it FAR and WIDE. ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜🖤🤎🤍
Gay rights is pretty new and can quite easily be rolled back. If Roe v Wade is a 50 year precedent and can be gone in a flash, don't think the same can't happen with gay rights. Right wingers are working hard as we speak to do so.
It definitely was not about National Security because a married habitual cheater is also prey to Blackmailers .
The gay rights movement was started mostly by the actions of Black Trans Women in New York but like everything in history the White man HAS to be included and take credibility for someone else's work. Cool story tho......
David camaney was a GAY whire man. And these brave actions took place way before stonewall riots. Credit where credit is due. That is not to Discount the amazing contributions of black Trans women who never had a closet to hide in in the first place and have always been very courageous.
@@frankpeter6851 The Stonewall Inn riots of 1969 were definitely a turning point for the L.G.B.T community not just in New York City but across the country. Unfortunately, there were several attacks on establishments that catered to the L.G.B.T community in the 20th century; the most well-known attack was the fire at the UpStairs Lounge in New Orleans, Louisiana in June of 1973.
Wasn't this host on I Love the 90
Yes they did fight hard for equality very hard. A lot of the gay people growing up today have no idea what the past gay folk had to endure and that hurts I miss the old days myself
Half of that guy's shirt is tucked awkwardly behind his jacket. A side issue, maybe, but it looks ugly.
Wow.....😄😄😄😄😄
But not Roy Cohn tho.
OMgosh, this is horrible.😞
LMFAO!!….now they're running the show!!!....
Daniel, that's a narrow, small minded view of the state of the world. What are you afraid of?
How many know Communists were outed by McCarthy.
Irish citizen
none lmao, it was really all a scam he had barely any evidence to support any of his claims
Loggia white in the society american active........blast.
Thinking of WW2 ..We just commemorated D-DAY..IT TOOK ALL TRUE AMERICANS TO WIN THAT WAR!!! IT'S GOING TO TAKE ALL AMERICANS TO TAKE US SAFELY INTO THE FUTURE FOR OUR CHILDREN AND THEIR CHILDREN...AND BEYOND!! THE FUTURE BELONGS TO THE BRAVE!!!🇺🇸
I just read a true story of a lady that came out of that. She says that it stems from being rejected as children and the need to fit in.
America needs prayer so we can heal.
@Cody Murphy , hate gets you nowhere in life. The lady I am talking about was deeply involved in with some really bad people. Please grow up and expand and grow maybe compassion for other human beings besides yourself.
Will everything named after Dwight Eisenhower now have to be politically corrected?
At least THEY ONLY LOST JOBS & WEREN'T PERSECUTED 400 YRS & STILL COUNTING!!!!😠😠😠😠
So what do you say to people who count for both categories?
Gay folks' damn existence was illegal until 2003 or so. Hate crimes and persecution against them have still been a thing for ??? years and counting.
Stop with your "more-opressed-than-thou" type of whataboutism. When rights of POC comes up, we will mention the "persecuted for 400 years and counting" thing.
We all need to follow the Laws, statues and Commandments!!! He's coming to get his garments stained!!!!
The Red Scare was based on fact, there were are lot of Communists in the Government. We had just come through 16 years of a very left wing Democrat government that had many "reds" (as they used to call them) in high places in the government. The fact that homosexual leftists were caught up in this had less to do with their sexual persuasion than the fact they were "fellow travelers" of the USSR. And in those days, homosexuals could be blackmailed by Soviets to perform spying tasks to support the Russians.
In my country standard, we don't even consider Dems as left-wing. They are middle right
Gay Privilege dominates American media these days.
Gay privilege???
@@headishome8452 YES GAY PRIVILEGE
Gay privilege?
Explain what you think that is please.
I think you're confused with white hetero male privilege.
Walk into any business and look even a little bit gay and see if you're treated with anything resembling privilege!!
Gay privilege is when you're gay, and can pass as straight. That's how I know from experience, in a way, know how incredibly easy life is for straight people.
🔷️🔷️🔷️ More pro-liberal living.
What a waste of a piece.
It went from: “WE just want to be left alone” to “We WON’T leave you alone” until we force you to bake us a cake! Progress?
Why are you refusing someone a cake if they can pay it?
@@rainb5987 A thing called freedom.
@@oxalek8220 Why are you refusing someone a cake if they can pay it?
Take a hint from the fact that you still have to whine about that one cake. How long ago was that, a decade? fifteen years?
God Bless Straight people!!! God bless Straight American Patriots! !!! MAGA
WE'RE HERE, WE'RE QUEER, GET USED TO IT
. Do you have any evidence that god or gods exist?
Oh, bless your heart.
I’m don’t have hate or bias against the gay but I don’t like how they parade around or I cannot accept the hate ,bias and rebellious way nor do I accept their bias hate and disrespect for out President and God. Years ago for years they had methods by doctors which I don’t think it was Humana now they do have rights my friends that are gay they live and are very respectful their are so so respectful , now we have the transgender they have this bill out the equality act now there is several issue that are not good for woman young girls or parents several parents are fightning in America that the doctors took right over and parents have no longer rights over their children as young as 7 years old if the doctor ask the child are you ok with your gender and the child says no the doctor takes over your child look it up you will understand what that act is all about. We need to be careful that the children are not use for guinea pigs. ✊🇺🇸😎
WE'RE HERE, WE'RE QUEER, GET USED TO IT
Can you add some punctuation and capitalization so we know when your sentences start and end?
🏳️⚧️ oooh I’m coming to make your kids trans oooohhhhh🏳️⚧️
I guess RuPaul is unaware of this part of history