I know right? What I'm struggling with is actually reacting to people who hit the full guard. Also I don't know if it's just me or does her kit feel like she should have dodge heavies instead of dodge lights?
@@titanjammer141 I get that, but on her it feels kinda weird since her main move is her heavies. It just feels off in the same way it feels weird cent also has dodge lights even though his main gameplay revolves around heavies.
Its cool how you respond to criticism in a mature way. A lot of content creators would rather just bash anyone that says anything negative about them. Nice analysis btw.
@RAPTORREX_ he would be doing well if it weren't for the fact he keeps getting put in lobbies with gankers emote spammers and I think scripters why I say that is there was this one khatun that light parried all his attacks but his guard never matched were the attacks were coming from but other than that he's doing great sorry (ps) sorry for the long paragraph
I haven't played Khatun yet, but she passes a very important test for me. Namely, she is not unfun to fight. Nothing about her is WAY overtuned or undertuned as is usually typical for hero launches. Its a thumbs up from me, good job ubisoft.
@@RAPTORREX_ Might be an individual thing. I find her moveset engaging. Then again, I typically play in a very relaxed fashion and my MMR is not high. The only "frustrating" fight I can recall was against one player that was just video game jesus, but that's got nothing to do with the hero lol. Maybe getting stunlocked by 30 pins could be annoying? But that's not a Khatun exclusive.
@@Techno_Bunny433 Dont forget she can chase you with a wide cleaving light attack repeatedly, so she is constantly hunting you down if youre externally dodging. One pin and there’s your entire health bar Edit: Full block characters are safe from this but everyone else gets melted with little resistance. She can even effectively chase an offlocking JJ and Warmonger
Its simply the fact that every person who plays this game absolutely despises it from to bottom of his heart but for some reason can't quit so they watch other people hate this game as well to justify it
As a Shugoki main i like my friend is into this hero, i never landed more top heavys and grabs than before ^^ As a casual, its nice to experience this. For all you more series players she might get annoying in 4v4 realy quick ^^
I personally prefer deflects being on a separate button from dodge attacks because it proves I'm right that 90% of the time I get deflected on, it was completely unintentional and the person was just using their dodge attack.
@@RAPTORREX_ my brain is an enigma 😅. But fr though. Ocelotl, Pirate, Afeera, VG, my boy wasn’t having a good time. Low key expected this to be the same, but imma trust you
Dude I really love this hero, you really can’t get tired from playing her because she has so much going for her in terms of moveset, when you pull of her deflects and soft feint combo every dude it literally looks like an action movie
Like finally a hero who has the potential to be amazing in neutral and in combos with good damage and actually fun gameplay, sohei is great but he feels like a gimmick because all you’re trying to do is get souls and people eventually catch on and just light parry, anyways dude thank you for your input I watched the stream and I completely understand why you were so critical, we expect the worst but this time it was a positive surprise
The new hero designer is cooking, even though Sohei is extremely weak it was so nice to see a design that was actually unique and had intent, and Khatun is really good too, hoping next heroes go as hard.
I definitely think her dam is fairly balanced. And same goes for the special abilities for once isn't broken(like others on release). I wanna see more of this uniqueness that isn't broken against everyone as other new heros have been and are.
I want to see less armor variants for new heroes, not saying there shouldn’t be (they can look cool) but there can be plenty of options for creating unique armor which makes it seem almost lazy when we get 10 sets of armor, 5 of which are variants
Her pin is INSANE!! Literally leaves you sitting still to tell you her World Take Over Monologue! haha Shouldnt beable to do it after a heavy parry because its LITERALLY rewarding a HEAVY 28-DMG attack from a Heavy Parry. Shes chill besides that.
Well I think she is a bit too strong. Main difference being Ara gets guardbroaken when he used blockade like still sec after it and Khatun just bounces off.
@firebird_5282 I mean, they're both completely different tools so that doesn't make sense. Khatuns is used to continue her chain, while Aras is only used as a recovery cancel, or as a defensive read on a normal attack. The way to punish Khatuns all guard is: empty dodge, dodge attack, trap, or hyper armor. Aras full block also ends the enemy's chain, where Khatuns doesn't, which is huge.
@@knightmare1267 Aras stuff doesnt end hyper armour chains only on kick as far as I know. Raiders can alwaysd continue spamming me and dont talk about fellow hito.
This hero is quite fun to play. For me, it has been hard. Something about her hasn’t clicked yet but I’m still searching for it. On some odd notes, there two things I kinda wish I could do, 1) bash out of the run (my inner knight main is calling) and 2) be able to manually throw out of the pin, mainly to make it a decent ledging too because her throws are kinda good.
the best tips i can give you is crutch on her dodge cancels after every move, and her gap closer heavy (not the unblockable one) can be soft feinted into kick. so your knight main brain can use that
Khatun is a breath of fresh air to me, Sohei was unique but too gimmicky and the other newer heroes felt boring to me. Khatun seens like a good mix of being unique and fun.
One more thing I find a little out of place is how slow she is out of neutral. Warlord is in neutral 24/7 but his recovery and fast inputs make up for it while Khatuns heavies are a chore to get going
Been playing cent in duels and got majority of the new hero as opponent. For now it feels like cent is favored in 1v1 matchup, punch and kick do so much especially because you can just go for kick if you are fast enough as soon as you see the run forward
the Rush attack is guard breakable, and the pin is blockable. Another issue I have with her moveset, is when I get a light parry into heavy (you know the dream of every player to punish a light parry) she gets into her Pin and no normal heavy attack. meaning her light parry punish -> heavy is parriable. That said, I finally found my main
My biggest problem with her is that she doesn't feel like an assassin. Tough as nails and headhunter turn her into a heavy, and her attacks almost feel a vanguard or a hybrid.
So we got twin dual wielding (same weapons on both hands), non-twin dual wielding (different weapons on both hands), staff, shield and weapon, one-handed swords and axes, two-handed swords and axes, pikes, spears, seven weapons in one heroe, daggers, hookswords, kusarigamas, tridents, hatchets, katanas, flails, kanabo, guandao moon blade, kite shield, Masakari Axe, Kama-Yari (Sickle Spear), a Nokogiri (Saw), a Tetsubo (club), a Kama (Sickle), a Kumade (Rake), a Otsuchi (Mallet) and a Wakazashi (Short Sword), war hammer, poleaxe, naginata, gladius, claymore, changdao, bardiche, flintlock pistol and cutlass, modifiable staff with fan axes, mace, club, longsword, Dane axe, nodachi,, dao blade, flamberge sword, but we still don't have a heroe, who is fully unarmed, just fists and kicks. But after you think about it, it wouldn't make sense for a warrior to go to battle unarmed, while the other warriors have quite the arsenal. Intersting?!?!?!?!?!
You make good points, but I do think that she’s a little op with the soft faints and it’s not really just those that make her annoying to fight but it’s that combined with the fact she has orochi lvl recovery time.
being a former glad main with like 25 reps, she strugles in the same exact way with armor as he does. since im moving my main to her ill already know how to deal with it.
As much as i hate modes that arent duel based, confirmed ganking is one of the only mechanics i like due to it removing some of the guessing from the game which i cant stand. This game went from being all about memorizing timings, spacing, and having fast reactions to essentially playing a constant guessing game that you could theoretically consistently lose to a button masher if youre unlucky.
My only problem it’s her is 1) her heavy follow up on the pin heavy makes the opponent get insane frame advantage where there’s no reason to use the heavy stab because it ends combo and give the opponent a free attack 2) damage output on her is so bad and definitely needs an increase
I do like this hero quite a bit. She is the first hero in years to feel like she has a unique personality when she fights and is overall just fun to play. While I do think she isn't particularly hard to play, I do think her skill ceiling is massive, and for the first time in awhile I'm excited to see what the community does with the character. The only real bright spot from the mid season patch.
Yeah I wish she had a different type of deflect attack just hate the pinning heavy and trying to get the zone just doesn't work whenever I'm in a teamfight ever 😅
I think really the only thing I look for in a hero now a days is are they fun tbh this character is crazy fun and I also play solo and if I play with friends they are so low level they don’t even know how to stop feeding revenge but if they are fun when playing alone then I am happy with that
Good video apart from saying that deflect on the same bind as dodge attack is valid. It's not. A deflect should be intentional, you should never EVER accidentally get value out of a hero. You should never make a wrong input or read and be rewarded. I didn't even realize there were arguments for this apart from "erm well I didn't memorize the inputs yet 🤓"
i didnt say it was valid, i just said both sides have good points, overall i dont think heros should have the same input but im always open to debate it
Khatun unique T1 allows you to generate stamina because the you aren’t using about 5 stamina and pausing your regen. Her stamina management is really good so it isnt that significant unless youre spamming soft feints nonstop
I must say straight up I didn't even realise it was a female Mongolian the only thing that gave it away was people saying it and then me looking and realising she had earrings and she has arguably the cleanest basic fit of any for honour character it just looks sick as hell
This is the only hero i encourage people to buy because shes so fun and balanced aside from a few non game breaking things…she looks super fun as or against and i just want her buys to sky rocket so ubi sees they cooked with this one
I have a problem where every time there's a new hero I'm like yep this is my new main now and then get tired of only playing that character and don't main then and when khatun came out I was like I'm not gonna main her and then they added a Mongolian female hero dual wilding sabres, brutal executions solid emotes and it's super fun to play, I got 3 reps on day 1
I tried to use Katun against a level 3 Varangian Guard bot and holy hell did I get fisted. Almost everything I did got countered and the Ai made such well timed interruptions. And sometimes when you try to counter the interruptions it pulls out the 12 and counters your counter. But with my experience I felt like the players I went up against definitely didn’t practice before going into pvp.
Not really relevant to most of the video but my god I hated my friend for playing Shaolin with the skin and the fucking chicken emote. I would go to sleep hearing Shaolin voice lines and chicken sounds and toss and turn all night. I am officially the number 1 Shaolin hater
I think she can flow really well but for counter or reactive characters, I'll use LawBringer, especially now that he's half decent, It's almost impossible to get any pressure on them or get into your forward stance.
the damage section is wrong btw, just wanted to point that out. opener lights are 12, finisher lights are 14, soft feint lights are 9, and bash light acts as a finisher light so its 14. thought id point that out just incase, but not a big deal imo.
got rep 4 on her in one sitting so far, 8-9 ish hours of playing, shes VERY fun to vs and play agaisnt for once they made a hero right, spamming is still a bit of an issue but as it turns out, the character counters itself so its fine if your playing her
i find her underwhelming tbh, my teammates constantly break the pin move. the problem is, when you get send back to neutral, you get forced into defense and she only has offensive tools
Only thing i'd change is that her deflect breaks hyperarmor, cuz currently she just gets ass rammed against anyone who has it. She has a pinning deflect, the whole point is to keep people still and lock them down and theres so many characters that just ignore it. every other pin deflect breaks hyperarmor just not hers (oro, shinobi, zerk) XD Especialy since heros like Hito, Shug and zerk are very popular. While i first found out she cant break hyperarmor with her main gimmik i went hito and zerk to see if my theory held up. Did not lose one game and i didnt even have to try, while some say its a testament to how braindead zerk and hito are, you would still get punished by most other heros if you play like an idiot on any character because they have ways to deal with it. The only way she can is her bash and it puts her to neutral. The one place you dont want to be against someone with hyperamor, they win when youre behind, and khatun cant get ahead against them. You might say "what about her rush" you dont have to respect it AT ALL, since its basicly the same as any light. Not only that hyperarmor compleatly ignores non bash presure. That or im missin the one move that counters it.
a lot of heros released with problems, the oldest heros like cent were mega broken on launch, HL on launch was awful. its a hard mix. WM and gryphon were broken on launch as well, jorm and zhanu sucked on launch. i went with BP because for launch it wasnt terrible
@ Fair enough ~~ Can't wait to see you milk that new hero ! (and i m not gonna do any joke about milking) Anyway as Character 2.0 you have case for Shaman being a Spada 2.0. If you pay attention de difference gameplay wise are not so much bigger than between Warden and WG
I haven’t played for honor in so so long, so maybe there’s a good reason for it dont flame me for asking, but why do moves even have revenge lock? Like i feel like letting you pop revenge like a combo breaker in other fighting games would make ganks a lot more manageable since it’s the anti gank took. My only reason I can see it being a thing is cause solo queue could be annoying when others feed revenge but i feel like it’s still way more annoying for the one being jumped and their randoms not helping 9 times out of 10
no thats not a dumb question, honestly i ask myself that question all the time. its not a good mechanic anymore, before when the game was super casual it was fine but now that people have found ways to abuse it. its not healthy for the game
The more heroes that get released with a pin move the more I despise Orochi, either make Orochi get fucked for deflecting a character with hyper armour or make Gladiator and Khatun break it, it's not that hard to make a choice into consistency. I know Shinobi breaks it but if we ask Freeze, Shinobi never really played by the rules and is his like gimmick thing, his deflect being a big displacement that is supposed to beat everything even Bulwark Counter, and Berserker does it cause, you know, his is just a raw GB.
Idk if it is just me, but frame advantage is so odd with this character. I'll counter gb my opponent, which means I have frame advantage, I'll throw a light, and it gets interrupted by the enemy's light. Like frame advantage doesnt seem consistent.
*breathes in heavily*
Khatuna matata
*breathes in heavily*
Khathua! Spit on that deflect
1:30 "Provlematic" heroes are doing numbers Raptor (Good video though, keep up the great work man!)
It’s crazy how this hero actually takes effort to learn feels weird
I know right? What I'm struggling with is actually reacting to people who hit the full guard. Also I don't know if it's just me or does her kit feel like she should have dodge heavies instead of dodge lights?
@@nathancurnutt8074it’s intentional so that you can’t miss a deflect and still get it for free punish
@@titanjammer141 I get that, but on her it feels kinda weird since her main move is her heavies. It just feels off in the same way it feels weird cent also has dodge lights even though his main gameplay revolves around heavies.
@ makes sense, I get thst
Hyper armor ignores her deflect as one of the youtubers found out. Also i believe she is gb vunerable in the all guard deflect@@titanjammer141
Its cool how you respond to criticism in a mature way.
A lot of content creators would rather just bash anyone that says anything negative about them.
Nice analysis btw.
His criticism was entirely unjustified in this case though.
im as human as the next person, i can make mistakes i was just raised to admit them when it happens
@@RAPTORREX_ i greatly enjoyed your watch party (ps) raven says hey
@@Mark-v8x8f tell raven knight i hope hes enjoying the new hero as much as i am, and to have a wonderful day
@RAPTORREX_ he would be doing well if it weren't for the fact he keeps getting put in lobbies with gankers emote spammers and I think scripters why I say that is there was this one khatun that light parried all his attacks but his guard never matched were the attacks were coming from but other than that he's doing great sorry (ps) sorry for the long paragraph
I haven't played Khatun yet, but she passes a very important test for me.
Namely, she is not unfun to fight. Nothing about her is WAY overtuned or undertuned as is usually typical for hero launches. Its a thumbs up from me, good job ubisoft.
i think the unfun to fight statement might be a tad too early, ive been making people awfully upset with her so far
@@RAPTORREX_ Might be an individual thing. I find her moveset engaging. Then again, I typically play in a very relaxed fashion and my MMR is not high. The only "frustrating" fight I can recall was against one player that was just video game jesus, but that's got nothing to do with the hero lol.
Maybe getting stunlocked by 30 pins could be annoying? But that's not a Khatun exclusive.
I despise her. She feels like a moving kyoshin when getting ganked by her
Legitimately bronze opinion, she can stunlock to oblivion and dodge cancel into an insanely forgiving all guard that guarantees the stunning move
@@Techno_Bunny433 Dont forget she can chase you with a wide cleaving light attack repeatedly, so she is constantly hunting you down if youre externally dodging. One pin and there’s your entire health bar
Edit: Full block characters are safe from this but everyone else gets melted with little resistance. She can even effectively chase an offlocking JJ and Warmonger
God khatun had been such a breath of fresh air, not too busted and not shit also the deflect noise sounds amazing
Complain more please that’s what we watch you for.
Not a pin of shame. This is literally his *THIRD TIME* addressing this. Dude is becoming KSI against DanTDM right now.
Bro, truth. I don't wanna hear FH get any more glazing, I need criticism and complaining more
I just wanted to comment that 😂
Its simply the fact that every person who plays this game absolutely despises it from to bottom of his heart but for some reason can't quit so they watch other people hate this game as well to justify it
Im happi to hear more positive for this game, i love it
As a Shugoki main i like my friend is into this hero, i never landed more top heavys and grabs than before ^^ As a casual, its nice to experience this. For all you more series players she might get annoying in 4v4 realy quick ^^
I personally prefer deflects being on a separate button from dodge attacks because it proves I'm right that 90% of the time I get deflected on, it was completely unintentional and the person was just using their dodge attack.
I can't believe the devs didn't make a completely broken hero or a completely shit hero they did pretty good this time it's really refreshing
Finally a dlc character that shugoki can actually fight
had a change of heart it seems
@@RAPTORREX_ my brain is an enigma 😅. But fr though. Ocelotl, Pirate, Afeera, VG, my boy wasn’t having a good time. Low key expected this to be the same, but imma trust you
What does this even mean
Dude I really love this hero, you really can’t get tired from playing her because she has so much going for her in terms of moveset, when you pull of her deflects and soft feint combo every dude it literally looks like an action movie
*on every dude
0/10 not a 2nd Zhanhu Video
DAMN YOU, YOU ZANHU AD
i fully agree
I am from Mongolia and I’m happy to see Mongolia represented!
Nothing against you but thats like saying "im happy to see germany bring represented" and the representation is Adolf hitler LOL
I can’t believe you said “unique” this is literally Aramusha.
I like how the "opposite" of Khatun (at least by looking at the menu), Warmonger, plays very differently, and makes for super fun 1v1s!
she made me return to the game and i dont know if thats a good or bad thing yet
bad :(
Like finally a hero who has the potential to be amazing in neutral and in combos with good damage and actually fun gameplay, sohei is great but he feels like a gimmick because all you’re trying to do is get souls and people eventually catch on and just light parry, anyways dude thank you for your input I watched the stream and I completely understand why you were so critical, we expect the worst but this time it was a positive surprise
The new hero designer is cooking, even though Sohei is extremely weak it was so nice to see a design that was actually unique and had intent, and Khatun is really good too, hoping next heroes go as hard.
I definitely think her dam is fairly balanced. And same goes for the special abilities for once isn't broken(like others on release). I wanna see more of this uniqueness that isn't broken against everyone as other new heros have been and are.
I want to see less armor variants for new heroes, not saying there shouldn’t be (they can look cool) but there can be plenty of options for creating unique armor which makes it seem almost lazy when we get 10 sets of armor, 5 of which are variants
Her pin is INSANE!! Literally leaves you sitting still to tell you her World Take Over Monologue! haha
Shouldnt beable to do it after a heavy parry because its LITERALLY rewarding a HEAVY 28-DMG attack from a Heavy Parry.
Shes chill besides that.
It’s guaranteed off a heavy tho
I've been away for over 8 months now, please don't tempt me to Ubi.....
Well I think she is a bit too strong. Main difference being Ara gets guardbroaken when he used blockade like still sec after it and Khatun just bounces off.
The difference is that Aramusha is absolutely awful, and shouldn't be used for balancing discussions
@@knightmare1267 And Khatun should be guard breakable in all guard like everyone else.
@firebird_5282 I mean, they're both completely different tools so that doesn't make sense. Khatuns is used to continue her chain, while Aras is only used as a recovery cancel, or as a defensive read on a normal attack. The way to punish Khatuns all guard is: empty dodge, dodge attack, trap, or hyper armor. Aras full block also ends the enemy's chain, where Khatuns doesn't, which is huge.
@@knightmare1267 Aras stuff doesnt end hyper armour chains only on kick as far as I know. Raiders can alwaysd continue spamming me and dont talk about fellow hito.
@firebird_5282 All of Aras follow ups interrupt hyper armor
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You know it’s bad when he has to break out the “aye yai yai”
love this guy
Lore is very…interesting in for honor but I appreciate how much of an impression she’s made story and character wise with just being in the game
This hero is quite fun to play. For me, it has been hard. Something about her hasn’t clicked yet but I’m still searching for it. On some odd notes, there two things I kinda wish I could do, 1) bash out of the run (my inner knight main is calling) and 2) be able to manually throw out of the pin, mainly to make it a decent ledging too because her throws are kinda good.
the best tips i can give you is crutch on her dodge cancels after every move, and her gap closer heavy (not the unblockable one) can be soft feinted into kick. so your knight main brain can use that
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Khatun is a breath of fresh air to me, Sohei was unique but too gimmicky and the other newer heroes felt boring to me.
Khatun seens like a good mix of being unique and fun.
i love how not only im in the video but i died by the 4feat like a dumass, love u raptorrex
One more thing I find a little out of place is how slow she is out of neutral. Warlord is in neutral 24/7 but his recovery and fast inputs make up for it while Khatuns heavies are a chore to get going
4:55 I know this is a for honor video but I heard a banger BGM from Mario Strikers charged just want to say great choice
Been playing cent in duels and got majority of the new hero as opponent. For now it feels like cent is favored in 1v1 matchup, punch and kick do so much especially because you can just go for kick if you are fast enough as soon as you see the run forward
What is wrong with being negative ?freedom of speech
"no character is actually that difficult to master"
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the Rush attack is guard breakable, and the pin is blockable. Another issue I have with her moveset, is when I get a light parry into heavy (you know the dream of every player to punish a light parry) she gets into her Pin and no normal heavy attack. meaning her light parry punish -> heavy is parriable. That said, I finally found my main
My biggest problem with her is that she doesn't feel like an assassin. Tough as nails and headhunter turn her into a heavy, and her attacks almost feel a vanguard or a hybrid.
100 percent valid take. i dont know why she has a heavy feat in her aresnal but not a bow cause you know... mongolian
Classes haven't really mattered for a long time, just like hero descriptors and difficulty ratings.
Eyyyyy Lawful good Slanderous is back
The softfeint lights are actually 9 dmg, and the opener lights are 12
thank you for clearing it up
So we got twin dual wielding (same weapons on both hands), non-twin dual wielding (different weapons on both hands), staff, shield and weapon, one-handed swords and axes, two-handed swords and axes, pikes, spears, seven weapons in one heroe, daggers, hookswords, kusarigamas, tridents, hatchets, katanas, flails, kanabo, guandao moon blade, kite shield, Masakari Axe, Kama-Yari (Sickle Spear), a Nokogiri (Saw), a Tetsubo (club), a Kama (Sickle), a Kumade (Rake), a Otsuchi (Mallet) and a Wakazashi (Short Sword), war hammer, poleaxe, naginata, gladius, claymore, changdao, bardiche, flintlock pistol and cutlass, modifiable staff with fan axes, mace, club, longsword, Dane axe, nodachi,, dao blade, flamberge sword, but we still don't have a heroe, who is fully unarmed, just fists and kicks. But after you think about it, it wouldn't make sense for a warrior to go to battle unarmed, while the other warriors have quite the arsenal. Intersting?!?!?!?!?!
I dunno about the 2.0 aspect, alot of people haven't been pointing it out; but she plays, feels, and even stances up ALOT like PIRATE. Anyone agree?
Is your brain okay?
@Kai-hn5ig doing just fine, might wanna dust your off a bit though😁
Not at all
You make good points, but I do think that she’s a little op with the soft faints and it’s not really just those that make her annoying to fight but it’s that combined with the fact she has orochi lvl recovery time.
technically if you press heavy and light at the same time it option selects the deflect move or the dodge attack
He dont lie. Played a couple of games with him being aramusha. Later in the day, he was playing her.
I hope we get more heros like this, just pure fun, nothin can beat my boi sohei tho
I think the only think she struggles with that I’ve seen is anti-gank/stalling. But that’s to be expected. She’s an assassin.
there’s a tech with her that allows her to ignore light parry stun
On a controller she has so many buttons to press it feels awkward but just probably getting used to
I realy like her design, if I ever get back to For Honor I might even throw orochi away to main her.
I honestly really like her it's just that any sort of hyper armor is just devious against her due ti her deflect not breaking her hyper armor.
being a former glad main with like 25 reps, she strugles in the same exact way with armor as he does. since im moving my main to her ill already know how to deal with it.
As much as i hate modes that arent duel based, confirmed ganking is one of the only mechanics i like due to it removing some of the guessing from the game which i cant stand. This game went from being all about memorizing timings, spacing, and having fast reactions to essentially playing a constant guessing game that you could theoretically consistently lose to a button masher if youre unlucky.
Hawk Tuah
My only problem it’s her is 1) her heavy follow up on the pin heavy makes the opponent get insane frame advantage where there’s no reason to use the heavy stab because it ends combo and give the opponent a free attack 2) damage output on her is so bad and definitely needs an increase
I do like this hero quite a bit. She is the first hero in years to feel like she has a unique personality when she fights and is overall just fun to play. While I do think she isn't particularly hard to play, I do think her skill ceiling is massive, and for the first time in awhile I'm excited to see what the community does with the character. The only real bright spot from the mid season patch.
Yeah I wish she had a different type of deflect attack just hate the pinning heavy and trying to get the zone just doesn't work whenever I'm in a teamfight ever 😅
I think really the only thing I look for in a hero now a days is are they fun tbh this character is crazy fun and I also play solo and if I play with friends they are so low level they don’t even know how to stop feeding revenge but if they are fun when playing alone then I am happy with that
someday we will get a new male hero
Yo I feel bad for that dude at the end. His whole team gets exicuted as they brake.💀
based full video watcher
Complaining is the communication of the FH universe. We live for salt and suffering
in all honesty, the khatun bots are insane raid bosses
Good video apart from saying that deflect on the same bind as dodge attack is valid. It's not. A deflect should be intentional, you should never EVER accidentally get value out of a hero. You should never make a wrong input or read and be rewarded. I didn't even realize there were arguments for this apart from "erm well I didn't memorize the inputs yet 🤓"
i didnt say it was valid, i just said both sides have good points, overall i dont think heros should have the same input but im always open to debate it
Khatun unique T1 allows you to generate stamina because the you aren’t using about 5 stamina and pausing your regen. Her stamina management is really good so it isnt that significant unless youre spamming soft feints nonstop
I must say straight up I didn't even realise it was a female Mongolian the only thing that gave it away was people saying it and then me looking and realising she had earrings and she has arguably the cleanest basic fit of any for honour character it just looks sick as hell
I’m not good at for honor but I am good with assassins but this one is tricky for me. She’s a lot of fun though
This is the only hero i encourage people to buy because shes so fun and balanced aside from a few non game breaking things…she looks super fun as or against and i just want her buys to sky rocket so ubi sees they cooked with this one
I have a problem where every time there's a new hero I'm like yep this is my new main now and then get tired of only playing that character and don't main then and when khatun came out I was like I'm not gonna main her and then they added a Mongolian female hero dual wilding sabres, brutal executions solid emotes and it's super fun to play, I got 3 reps on day 1
I think this hero is more interesting than hard. I love her design and combat flow
I tried to use Katun against a level 3 Varangian Guard bot and holy hell did I get fisted. Almost everything I did got countered and the Ai made such well timed interruptions. And sometimes when you try to counter the interruptions it pulls out the 12 and counters your counter. But with my experience I felt like the players I went up against definitely didn’t practice before going into pvp.
20k subs!!!
Minor spelling mistake “ provlematic” is NOT a word raptor
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Dam, rarely see destiny memes anymore, nice to see tho 2:42
Pinning heavies never been a problem in duels. Never seen a confirm gank in a 1v1.
0:25 glad has one yet no complain ?
Not really relevant to most of the video but my god I hated my friend for playing Shaolin with the skin and the fucking chicken emote. I would go to sleep hearing Shaolin voice lines and chicken sounds and toss and turn all night. I am officially the number 1 Shaolin hater
6:44 bahahah reminds me of affera bots on release not sure if they were nerfed haven’t played it in a while
I think she can flow really well but for counter or reactive characters, I'll use LawBringer, especially now that he's half decent, It's almost impossible to get any pressure on them or get into your forward stance.
the damage section is wrong btw, just wanted to point that out. opener lights are 12, finisher lights are 14, soft feint lights are 9, and bash light acts as a finisher light so its 14. thought id point that out just incase, but not a big deal imo.
And I thought I was the only one who couldn't stop laughing my ass off messing with the goofy stance swap animations.
Posted 2 vids of her faster than between the shaman and PK vid😭🙏
got rep 4 on her in one sitting so far, 8-9 ish hours of playing, shes VERY fun to vs and play agaisnt for once they made a hero right, spamming is still a bit of an issue but as it turns out, the character counters itself so its fine if your playing her
i find her underwhelming tbh, my teammates constantly break the pin move. the problem is, when you get send back to neutral, you get forced into defense and she only has offensive tools
Hell yeah you gained over 100 subs i like a day
they made the outlanders faction to fuck with us and then added khatun to show that they actually know how to make good heroes they just no no wanna
Only thing i'd change is that her deflect breaks hyperarmor, cuz currently she just gets ass rammed against anyone who has it. She has a pinning deflect, the whole point is to keep people still and lock them down and theres so many characters that just ignore it. every other pin deflect breaks hyperarmor just not hers (oro, shinobi, zerk) XD
Especialy since heros like Hito, Shug and zerk are very popular. While i first found out she cant break hyperarmor with her main gimmik i went hito and zerk to see if my theory held up. Did not lose one game and i didnt even have to try, while some say its a testament to how braindead zerk and hito are, you would still get punished by most other heros if you play like an idiot on any character because they have ways to deal with it.
The only way she can is her bash and it puts her to neutral. The one place you dont want to be against someone with hyperamor, they win when youre behind, and khatun cant get ahead against them. You might say "what about her rush" you dont have to respect it AT ALL, since its basicly the same as any light. Not only that hyperarmor compleatly ignores non bash presure. That or im missin the one move that counters it.
So the question at 50 K steel: Since when For Honor released a Hero that much appreciated overall ? Especially without too much problem at day one
uhhhh, hard to say, maybe black prior honestly
@@RAPTORREX_ Really ? I would have said even earlier cause you weren't really positive about him in your history video
a lot of heros released with problems, the oldest heros like cent were mega broken on launch, HL on launch was awful. its a hard mix. WM and gryphon were broken on launch as well, jorm and zhanu sucked on launch. i went with BP because for launch it wasnt terrible
@ Fair enough ~~ Can't wait to see you milk that new hero ! (and i m not gonna do any joke about milking) Anyway as Character 2.0 you have case for Shaman being a Spada 2.0. If you pay attention de difference gameplay wise are not so much bigger than between Warden and WG
I haven’t played for honor in so so long, so maybe there’s a good reason for it dont flame me for asking, but why do moves even have revenge lock? Like i feel like letting you pop revenge like a combo breaker in other fighting games would make ganks a lot more manageable since it’s the anti gank took. My only reason I can see it being a thing is cause solo queue could be annoying when others feed revenge but i feel like it’s still way more annoying for the one being jumped and their randoms not helping 9 times out of 10
no thats not a dumb question, honestly i ask myself that question all the time. its not a good mechanic anymore, before when the game was super casual it was fine but now that people have found ways to abuse it. its not healthy for the game
Bro, I was like literally just in a breach game with you today. My gt was FrostyyAimbt I was playing VG
Yup, she is freaking good.
respect as one of your haters on that live stream not that anyone should give a shit about this comment. I got deferred from umich man...
valid hate nonetheless
I think I might get the new hero. Should I?
yes
The more heroes that get released with a pin move the more I despise Orochi, either make Orochi get fucked for deflecting a character with hyper armour or make Gladiator and Khatun break it, it's not that hard to make a choice into consistency. I know Shinobi breaks it but if we ask Freeze, Shinobi never really played by the rules and is his like gimmick thing, his deflect being a big displacement that is supposed to beat everything even Bulwark Counter, and Berserker does it cause, you know, his is just a raw GB.
Idk if it is just me, but frame advantage is so odd with this character. I'll counter gb my opponent, which means I have frame advantage, I'll throw a light, and it gets interrupted by the enemy's light. Like frame advantage doesnt seem consistent.
most likely not intended, characters on release had the same issues (tiandi)
This isn’t 3pm est
1:29 typo ;)
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shes fun to fight as PK, both of you constantly trying to fake each other out, its fun
3:18 I have one question can this gank be done with the enemy is locked on? Hitstun is usually prolonged when Out of Lock?
yes
@@RAPTORREX_💀Oh
She made me want to reinstall and play aramusha
I have mixed feelings on her release
Why do they make zones have all the properties of heavies (damage, speed, execute) with none of the risk (gb vuln)
In Kathun and Sohei’s it’s because they don’t get a regular heavy on heavy input after a guard break .
That’s a good point I guess