The Hantek will read low DC voltages pretty accurately in DVM mode, once you connect it directly through low resistance bnc and you adjust the measuring range (scale that can be seen in the DVM panel) to what you’re measuring, by turning the Volts/DIV knob. That range is not documented in the manual, but works great to get more precise measurements. Software 1.0.1.1.0 Firmware 3202.
Hey Werner, sorry for this late reply but I don't know why your comment was marked as "Held for review" and only noticed it now. Several users pointed out that the Hantek works ok with low voltages if you regulate it manually instead of using the auto. So, I understand that it is a problem the auto is not working properlly but the bottom line is the oscilloscope is able to read correctly low voltages if you do it manually. I have to upgrade mine, but have to confess that don't have much time now... thanks for watching and your comment! 👍
@@TechCornerTV Another thing is that you used 4Kb/p try to use all of his 8mb, to have more space for details, is clearly (at least this is why i'm thinking) that is missing details and isn't collecting all info.
HI, thats the idea of this channel, I'm trying to share what we get when we buy this equipments so you can take a more informed decision when buying it. Test equipment is not cheap.... thanks for watching!
Thanks Hugo. Very helpful analysis on all three oscilloscopes. As a mature aged student, I was considering the three mostly because of cost. I was initially thinking of an entry Siglent but they start at about 400AUD. After watching your analysis, I think I’ll spend the extra money for a higher quality oscilloscope mostly to avoid confusion when conducting experiments due to limitations/ inaccuracies that you’ve discovered with your tests. Excellent honest review. Thanks again. Craig
Hi, I will release this week a video of the CDEK SDS1102X, is currently on AliExpress between 126€ to 144€. As a spoiler, it is a real 100Mhz 1GSa/s oscilloscope, with all the percs and much faster than the SDS1104 on this video. I was really amazed. It is made by owon, is rebrand and is a total bargain, you can have it by the price of a handheld device. It should be online this fridary, take a look in the video. If you don't want to spend much, this might be a good deal. If you have the €€€/$$$ for a better equipment, it's always a good investment something with a better name. Thanks for watching.
Hi Hugo, thanks for the video and massive effort - entertaining as always, and looking forward to the next one! I have some feedback on the measurements you performed. I had to go and double-check my Hantek 2D15 after your video. I am a hobbyist and still learning, and I have learnt something today thanks to you! Firstly I was thrilled to see my Hantek measures DC voltage very accurately, all the way down to 50mv. In order for this oscilloscope to get accurate DC voltage measurements you need 2 things: 1) Do NOT use the Auto button because it sets the vertical scale too high which severely affects the reading; 2) Manually lower the vertical scale by a lot to get accurate readings. I will explain the second point: If you measure within the 10 V range, set the vertical scale to 1V/division or less and scroll down to bring the signal into view. Or, if you measure
Hello! Yeah this one took me a lot of effort, took one week to record and assemble and record again and so on... and only this week I went to bed 3 times near 4am, but all that is with a lot of goodwill and I am really happy if this videos help someone to decide what to buy, electronics is a very expensive hobby and I target my videos to hobbyist like me, to explain the maximum so you can do a informed decision when buying. Regarding your post and the info in it, it is huge help. Of course that the AUTOSET should work, Owon didn't have any issue with it, my Rigol also, but due to the price and the number of features in it, I think it deserves some slack... 😁 I am thinking to do a follow up video with some teardown, the questions and suggestions you guys gave me, yeah I think it will happen. I have more than 30 kits to assemble (those kits will be to the "Projects" part of the channel), but with these reviews I haven't had the time yet to start assembling them... I will start with those in september. It can't be all oscilloscopes, theres no budget that can handle so much equipment. The next videos will appear only in beggining of september, taking 2 weeks to rest and get some sun 😎 Thank you so much for your watching, support and to take the time to write this fantastic comment! Kudos! Stay safe 👍
lalu225, I just received my "HANTEK 2D15" today. VERY excited! I was wanting to ask you a question, if you don't mind? You stated that you installed the latest firmware update, from 3000 to 3102. I checked and my firmware is 3000 as well. After updating your firmware, did you have any issues? Also, did you notice some improvement to the overall function of your "2D15"? I ask, just to make sure there are no issues with the latest firmware, before I update mine. MANY thanks for your time! Patrick
@@FordSeniorMaster Hi Patrick, no worries thanks for asking. In short, no issues after the update and I haven't noticed any improvements. Having said that, I performed the update the day after receiving the unit, and I did not play enough with it beforehand to notice any change (nor did I have enough competence to notice, to be honest). I tested many combinations of firmware & software and decided to stick to the one that gave me a stable waveform from the internal function generator at a high frequency. With some combinations of firmware & software, the unit did not acquire the signal well, so I used this criterion to evaluate. The unit is very robust to software updates, I probably changed it 10 times. HOWEVER, before updating make sure you follow the guidelines posted by DavidAlfa on the EEVblog forum. The title of the post is "Hantek DSO2x1x models: firmware updates and best use practices". This user created a comprehensive guide and a repository of files. 3102 is not the latest firmware but the latest firmware that works on units with a base firmware of 3000. Whatever update you make, play it safe, and don't update to a firmware greater than 3102. Or just leave it as it is until you discover a bug and then you'll have a good reason to perform an update. Beware that some software updates will change your firmware. You'll find all the details on the forum. Hope this helps.
@@lalu225 Thank you VERY MUCH for the very informative reply. I GREATLY appreciate your time. I am very excited to start learning the full benefits of this AWESOME oscilloscope. Again, MANY THANKS my friend! Patrick
I just ordered a OWON SDS1104 clone for $104 on sale, 50% off. Looks identical! really appreciate your comparison of these scopes because it helped me decided which one to get.
Hi, still have mine and will test in a few days/weeks the CDEK SDS1102 that I have here, also a clone from Owon SDS1102 to see if the quality is the same. Thanks for sharing and watching.
Excellent comparison Hugo. Your attention to detail and the way you present and compare the products makes it easy for us to see. Thank you for all your hard work.
Glad you like! Thank you so much for your support, watch and comment! This one it was really hard work it took a week to record and specially to assemble... well I have english and portuguese versions (channels) of the video, so double work... thats on me! 😁
Excellent content .. is hard to find comparisons with real data .. most others out there are made of just fluff info like how touching the buttons makes them feel fuzzy inside. Thank You for taking the time to provide solid info.. Cheers :)
As always Hugo good video… I’ve received my fnirsi 1014D scope after 2 failed attempt of buying it.. and this video show me how to test it ( yes… the scope is still in the box, I didn’t open it yet ) So thank you again.. Hugo. Maybe I’ll update you when I’ve done the test..
Hello! Yes please do, update me when you test it. I'd love to know your experience. I hope not, but if you have any issues, just join the FNIRSI whatsapp group for support, they are very responsive. Hope you enjoy your 1014D, even after all, I still love workin with it, well no more... that unit was sent to Brian from Texas on monday. He was the winner of the channel oscilloscope giveway... thank you for watching and for you comment. 👍
Great Comparison, thanks again for this fantastic Video and your effort in making these Videos! I think they are very helpfull for all people wanting an entry level oscilloscope!
I need to be able to trust the values my oscillo is measuring and displays. I don't want to spend some time double checking with an additional equipment... I initially thought to buy a Hantek (for it's integrated frequency generator), but after your video, I opted for a OWON SDS1102 (I'll buy a separate FG). Thanks for this very interesting video.
When you were pressing the Auto Button on the Hantek, the Yellow scale range kept changing to either a too high value giving an incorrect reading or too low giving you an error. When it was set to 500mV at 27.30 the reading was almost spot on.... Looks like an error on the auto range setting!
Hi, the auto range works, but it isn't that good. If you manually set the time and amplitude, it tends to be more accurate. I agree with you. Thanks for watching 👍
The more I use the FNIRSI 1040D the more I get used to it and discover more way to not only make use of it but to get accurate readings. It's much more different than the older analog scopes. Still, it's the best scope on the bench and for field work.
My pleasure! I am from the time of the BBS with modems and all that stuff and I had one of the most known portuguese programmers BBS in the 90's... it was a great community. This last year I had finally the time and drive to start with electronics in a diferent level and to create this channels and I do love this, I make this videos with love and I hope that helps someone out there. It allows me to be part again of a community of geeks! I missed that 😁 Thank you for watching and your kind comment. 👍
Hey Jimmy, glad I could help. If you decide to buy one, don't forget to use the access links on the description to enter Aliexpress, Amazon or Banggood 😁, it will allow me to receive a very small fee if you buy but it will not affect your price. Thanks for watching and your nice comment! 👍
From its manual, "The bandwidth of the 1X probe is 5Mhz, the bandwidth of the 10X probe is 100Mhz. When measuring frequencies above 5Mhz the switch on the probe needs to be set at 10X, and the scope needs to be set to 10X. Are you using the correct probe?
Hey Joshua, thank you for your tip. I went back to see the function generator configuration and it is on HighZ and the scopes are also. I don't know if this what you're talking about, but on my next videos I will have a special attention to make sure both devices are on the same page. Thank you for warning me for this. 🤜🤛👍
From this compare, I give Hantek most worthy. Remind me of earlier digital scope in my Univ lab decades ago, with poorer performance than these scopes ,It cost 6000$ up. We almost couldn't reach it then. Only analog scope for students used.
I purchased the D15 and love it so far. Nothing negative to say about it honestly. I just do Arduino projects with ESPs and UNOs and also Raspberry Pis. Works great.
You can get a used, older, traditional scope for the cost of one of these, or less. Remember, "Old Tektronix scopes never die, they just get repaired." And there's NOTHING these scopes can do, that the old ones can't (except the FFT. But a REAL spectrum analyzer is SO much better!). And it's easier to use the knobs and buttons of a traditional scope, than memorize and use all the complicated menu procedures.
Hi Clyde, a 100Mhz tektronix, even in second hand or anolog, it will be more expensive that one of this low entry units. But you'll have a really accurate tool, thats true! Thanks for watching! 👍
You should've tested the bandwidth as well. I am surprised Hantek was such a crappy scope, with lots of features and a missing probe. I think you can definitely return Hantek and Fnirsi.
Hey Ergin! This video took so much time to get it all... anyway, you can see the bandwidth performance up to 60Mhz in the video... but yeah, they all have pros and cons... I hope this video was useful 😀 thank you for watching and your comment 👍
@@TechCornerTV Don't get me wrong it's a great video and I appreciate your effort. You don't actually need to teardown these devices, as in your case, a black box test tells all. Why am I concerned with the bandwidth? Because all Chinese manufacturers lie about it and the sampling rate. It's actually pretty straightforward task to determine the sampling frequency without opening the box and checking the fake chips. I have also noticed the noise levels are also different. Just little suggestions so you don't run out of ideas in your upcoming videos.
Read the posting above regarding the HANTEK 2D15 low voltage settings/readings. It has to do with the way it was being set . The HANTEK 2000 Series are NOT "crappy" instruments. Also, it wasn't missing a 2nd probe. That is clearly stated in the product description when purchasing from HANTEK.
I agree, it DSO2000 is a good line of oscilloscopes, for the price you pay they are awesome. It might have some bugs, but I believe that is only firmware issues that can be fixed.
I am EEE student and electronic hobbyist. I am using Fnirsi 1014d. I love Fnirsi devices, there are easiest other brands for using. I recommend every student should be got Oscilloscope. And ı recommend Fnirsi for student. But its not for a proffessional. İts cheap and enough.
The ADS1014D has a ground loop problem with the power supply (usb) inside, this is the reason for screwed voltage measurements. If you power it via a battery pack / usb power bank, voltage readings are more precise.
I don't know why there is no mention of an output tone from the Signal Generator.... I know that the generator outputs a sine-wave because I can see it on the scale... but is there also a signal tone for a radio speaker that you can physically hear from a speaker ? I'm trying to do a shortwave radio alignment and I need to physically hear the 455Khz signal tone from the generator.
Thanks for a comparison. To be honest, I am (hopefully not was) about to make myself some Xmas gift. It had to be Hantek DSO2C10 (because of the protocols decoding feature). Seeing that my multi-meter is way closer to truth with mV, I'm getting some 2nd thoughts about it and leaning toward Owon SDS1102. Not sure...
Hi! You'le be ok with any of them. Owon seamed a bit more stable, but they're both are good scopes for the price. If you buy a Salae logic analyser clone $5 to $10 you'll have a logic analyser + protocol decoder, the function generator, you'll lhave cheap a nice products for $5 to $20... isn't incorporated all in one, but maybe you don't need that. As I said, with any of them you'll be ok. Thanks for watching and season greatings 😁👍
I enjoyed your video I was wondering if any of the issues with the oscilloscopes was resolved with the firmware upgrade or has there been thanks in advance...
Hi, which one are you refering to? FNIRSI? Don't know, it was given on a channel giveaway. Regarding the Hantek still had some issues that were being resolved trough continuous firmware upgrades. Thanks for watching!
@@TechCornerTV well what I'm trying to say is looking for a budget oscilloscope for the most bang for my buck that's not all janky full of bugs and corks A oscilloscope that you think that is worthy of my money lol
This is a big question and a big ask perhaps but I'm looking to get into experiments with dual frequencies, in low to high volt (20,000) Pulsed emf results in various coils like rodin coils, abha coils and stuff like that. I'm having trouble figuring out what I need, and what is the minimum gear I need for it. I've been looking at al sorts of function generators, and pwm's, I'm still getting to grips with some of the stuff but overwhelmed too, there seems to be carious ways to set this up but high volt dc stuff...not really finding much in the budget range. Can you help me out here and suggest some still semi budget gear that would fit my requirements. Tho, the higher volt 70,000 singing tesla coils and stuff is drawing my interest too. And though I may be new to it, I understand the risks but would be following tutorials and such for probably a good lot of months until all the safety stuff was ingrained in me, but i'm not finding others experimenting with high volt and coils, if they're playing with coils, its usually much less voltage. So, if you can suggest and online courses or channels that go in to this I would appreciate it.
Hi, first of all, really ashamed for replying so late, but life got in the way and I have a lot of comments to catchup. If you're working with tentions above the oscilloscope maximum voltage, you should use a high voltage probe, but 70000 volts should be a bit, I'm not qualified to offer opinion for this case. Thanks for watching.
Thank you for your work in analyzing these three oscilloscopes. Forst and foremost, I learned one thing: at this price level, you get what you pay for. Very inaccurate and unreliable. I think the chips and finetuning in these instruments are just too cheaply made. I will therefore not buy ne of these. I will have to look for something better as my first oscilloscope. Thank you a lot for you work. Kind regards.
Hey Jacques, I share your opinion to a point, Owon seemed more reliable than the rest of the bunch, but I think it will not be able to provide the 100Mhz bandwidth also. I will test that soon in a new video with a fast edge signal generator and the rise time method. Unfortunetely (well for this test, a big luck for the giveway winner) I gave the FNIRSI 1014D on one of the channel giveaways, but I'm sure that will not be able to get to 100Mhz mark. The remaining will enter in a new video were I will test them all. But the rule is and here you're totally right, you got what you pay for. Thanks for watching and your comment! 💪👍
Hugo, are both probs used on the hantek the same? In particular, their bandwidth rating? The hantek comes with a single pair rated at 150Mhz and most of what i see online are either 100 or 200Mhz.
Hi, sorry the late reply, trying to keep up with the comments, not easy. I went to check and you're right, it was delivered with a PP-150 100Mhz probe, so this is kind of shot in the foot from Hantek. For the review I used what the brands supplied, if they send a 100Mhz probe for a 150Mhz oscilloscope and the review doesn't go so well in they favour, they can't complain. But that was a very nice point that you brought and totally missed me in the recording, thanks for sharing and for watching!
Between this FNIRSI 1014D model and the FNIRSI DPOX180H, which one do you think has better accuracy at higher frequencies? And which one would you recommend for someone learning electronics?
Hello, I tested the 1014D as soon it was released, since then it might get some better components that make it more accurate. The DSOX180H is my all time small oscilloscope, closelly followed by the Zeeweii DSO2512G and now the DSO3D12 (I have reviews on both of them) and the last one even has a voice assistent. They are different products, the fact of having a desktop oscilloscope, gives you a better platform to work. In terms of features the other models I mentioned, have more features and are in general more accurate. To learn, the 1014D, to keep for the following years, one of the mentioned models, have a smaller screen, but more features and more accuracy. Thanks for watching.
Hi, that was a big issue up to the latest v3.0 firmware in october 2021, after this upgrade the scope shows on the boot page the version and now is possible to know if your scope is updated or not... so, if you don't have the firmware version on the boot page, you need to update. Hope I answered your question. Thanks for watching. 👍
Hi great video. About the FNIRSI 1014D I just saw couple of videos and testing, and it did not get a good review at all, can't get up to 100mhz more like 20 or 30 ish, same for sampling. I am starting and checking to get a good one to start, but don't want to get crap for my money . Will go for the Hantek dsI2d10 100 mhz, and will try to upgrade to 200 lol. So for a couple of reviews I saw, the 1014d is a stay away from. Just my 2 cents again I am a newbee lol
Hi, you're not wrong on what you said. I have a few videos on the DSO2x1x series and you can find in one the videos, can't recall now in which one, how to do the model "upgrade", just a hint 😁 If you're considering buying it, give the channel some love and use the affiliate link in the description! Thanks for watching and your kind comment!
@@TechCornerTV Will do !!!! Now considering a 4 channel as might need more then 2 samples. Was going for the Owon sds1104 but has only 20k for definition or depth. Saw many have 10M or 14m so still looking.
Hi! It's a tektronix, I might be wrong but I think it's more accurate any day of the week than any of the oscilloscopes in this review 😁 thanks for watching 👍
You need to zoom on the vertical axis as much as possible to get the full wave displayed on the screen, it will give the better resolution possible on your voltage measurement, it wasn’t always made it seems, autoset should do it for yoy but if not, do it yourself!
@@TechCornerTV Great, I am interested to see how precise it can be, just make sure the wave is completely displayed on the screen and it is as big as possible :)
Hello Hugo, can I ask.., what have you connected to, with your probes, on the FNIRSI 1014D, to get your Frequency's... like your show, {just bought this model},. Need the Education. Thank you
@@TechCornerTV Thanks Hugo, I'll go to where you were testing the FNIRSI 1014D it's about where the Test Probes were connected to. Q. I have some Old Technology Stuff, Panasonic Video Machine, would like to Connect to Panasonic Editing Controller, using New Technology Connectors, i.e, VGA, USB, BNC, could I Wire a Circuit, to Connect them.? Have Photos, if you can help me with.. Thank you for your Show... Do you get some Sleep..?
First of all, thank you for making such a great and well informed video. I have learned alot from your review videos on each unit and this video to put all of them side by side. So yea, awesome job Hugo. - can you make a new review video on the Hantek unit but after installing the two heatsinks and a fan (maybe put that process in the same video). - I read somewhere that the probes that come with these cheap units are junk. Have you tried to use "good" probes with them and if so, does it help to get more accurate results? - Can you suggest or link to better probes we should get when we purchase any of these units? Maybe something that is budget friendly for us hobbyists, but still give better performance then the ones you get with the scope? Same question for both 100Mhz and 150Mhz probes. - is there a accuracy difference between the Hantek 100Mhz and 150Mhz versions? If the cost was the same, would the 150Mhz version be the better choice to get? Maybe ask Hantek if they can send you the 150Mhz version to do a side by side test??? - it's been almost a month since you made this video. Is there newer firmware/software that has been released that would fix the problems or add more features to the Hantek models? Thanks again and much love from Canada !!
Hello John! Thank you so much for watching and for taking the time to write such a nice comment full of great ideas. Let me try to answer everything: 1) I do have a new video on forge for the Hantek DSO2D10, you guys have been wondeful and I do have a bunch of ideas to test in a new video, I am bit swamped here, right now produting 3 videos and need to get some time to get all my backlog done, but it will happen 2) Regarding the probes, you're probably right and this is good idea, I can test it using the probes of Owon that gave better results and from my Rigol, those are 300Mhz nice probes. It seems we have a plan here.
Continuing, sorry accidentelly pressed enter 😁 3) I don't have the 150Mhz version and Hantek doesn't event replied to me, so I bought this from my pocket, so can't test it. I do intend to do a video how to upgrade from 100Mhz to 150Mhz... but only in the end of testing everything because if something goes wrong I already filmed everything I need with the oscilloscope. 5) new firmware update, a lot of viewers say to upgrade only if you have to because sometimes is worst, so I am kind of divided here, but anyway, I was saving this also for a new video (total of 2). Again thank you for watching and kudos to Canada from Portugal! 👍
@@TechCornerTV I am a great believer in using the same test leads, etc when testing different equipment. Then you are only testing the equipment and not the leads. However that does mean that the leads should be of a reasonable quality though not necessarily the best.
@@madcockney Hey there, I understand what your're saying and I think you're right, BUT i decided to use the probes that comes with unit because it is what you get when you buy the unit, so, if only have 1 unit, the result I tested should be as close as you will get, bad probes give bad results, thats manufacturer problem, they should send better probes for better equipment results. That said, I do understand that to be more accurate, a set of good probes across all the test will be better. I thought of using my probes from Rigol 300Mhz, but decided not to because of what I explained before. I have a edge fast rise signal generator now and I am thinking to do a video testing the real bandwidth of these oscilloscopes, FNIRSI out because I gave it on the oscilloscope giveway. But thanks for the input, these idea exchanges are precious and I do appreciate the time you guys spend commenting to help me improve the videos, Kudos! 😁👍
Hi, sorry the late reply, trying to keep up with the comments, not easy. My FNIRSI unit was one of the firsts in the market, really first, like the first batch or something like that and was very buggy, probably with some firmware updates it will be ok. I think that was also the problem in the readings. I can't try again because it was given on a channel giveaway, so can't verify that. Thanks for watching.
Hi, depends on you budget. If we're talking about $250/250€ for accuracy in this low level entry devices, I'll go with Owon, maybe Hantek if you need something with a lot of functions like protocol decoder and function generator all in one. If we're talking over this value, we have some Rigols that are good machines and have some models in the 300€ near almost 400€, with a lot of functions also and it gives you a more stable quality of product. Over this price you have a lot of options, siglent, rigol or even higher models of Owon that are awesome units for the price. Lower that $250, you have FNIRSI, pretty easy to use but not the top of the bunch in features or sometimes quality, but the support works very well. I know they are working on a 4 channels oscilloscope, maybe it will released this year. That's one that I would like to test to see if it improved since theirs 1014D bench oscilloscope. You have also the Owon's portable in this price range, but that a differente product. Bellow $100 you have only portables, Zeeweii DSO2512G was my choice. 2 channels, function generator, av output, 120mhz... can't beat this on something like $90. Hope this helped.
Hey Munbay, some were taken of but I think not all, there is still some issues with triggering and some other stuff. But in general and reading the opinions of some other users in the Whatsapp group, they're are satisfied with the oscilloscope. Thanks for watching and your comment. 👍
I was about to give a go to an Hantek, but I read so much complaints about bugs on the DSO2D10 and DSO215 and how complicated it was to make firmware / software updates with some sort of success. So I finally went to the Owon SDS1104. Now I see it can't read code like UART. 😢
Hi, no it can't, for that you need a protocol decoder and Owon doesn't have that, but you can solve that with 6€//$7 on AliExpress with a Salae compatible logic analyser/protocol decoder. Thanks for watching
@@TechCornerTV hey, you know what? I was scammed by Banggood. The Owon SDS1104 never came and the seller doesn't want to refund me. Because I was in the middle of a project, I got a Siglent SDS802X HD in a hurry from a store in Ontario - I'm in Quebec. Excellent machine, but I still have to learn it.
I wanted o buy the hantek, but after i has see your video and because the voltage is not accurate and because there is not cursors, i do not want this now. it looked like promising but,... I have one question : did you make the autocalibration before to test it ?
Hello Guy! I will take this oportunity to thank you for your e-mail and I will take some days off to get some sun I will analyse it with more details when I get back. Regarding the video, you do have cursors, see the review of the oscilloscope video, I show them there. In the comments some users explained me that it can go to low voltages, but you can't use the "autoset", it still is a good oscilloscope for the price, but for accuracy the Owon is way better (in my opinion) and for disclaimer, the unit in the video was offered for review, but I think that it really accurate in the measures it makes. Regarding your question, yes I did. I didn't show it because I forgot and also, not in FNIRSI, but in other oscilloscopes is a process takes a bit to do, but I did it when I started to prepare the oscilloscopes to see what I will talk about, to see what was the differences that I should mentions, what to test, well the prep of the video. Thank you for watching and for your comment! 👍
Hey Mike, I don't know, I gave my unit on a channel giveaway and I'm not considering to buy another to check it out... but for the users comments, I think it is a bit better. Thanks for watching. 👍
Hi Hugo, Thank you so much for this awesome video. I am a still a bit confused between all three brands. Can you please tell me that which one would you buy for long term use?
Hi Claude, a lot of water passed unde the bridge since this video. I still have some music in the videos, but I lowered a lot the volume. This kind of feedback is very important and I am grateful to you for taking the time to write me. Regarding the audio, might be the mic, but those videos were recorded more or less at 3am and sometimes I am really tired, because, in this case, I already recorded the same video in Portugues, my natural language, so this is the second take of everything and my voice then to become kind of "metallic" or with some vibration. I quit the videos in Portuguese and now I only record in english and I'm trying to record in more decent hours... 😁 experience and continuos improvement! I hope 😐 Thanks for watching! 👍
@@TechCornerTV I hesitate to give any kind of negative feedback. There is plenty of that on the internet. I'm glad you received it in the spirit in which it was intended. Cheers!
found your video on the FNIRSI 1014D i am looking to buy my first scope. Am confused if I should get the FNIRSI or the Hantek DSO5102P_N or the DSO2D10 they are all about the same price point. What is the scope model you use as reference on top. I think you called it a Rigol.
Hi! How is it now with Hantek's firmware? Did something changed since August, 2021? Did you've used DS02D10 in your work? Some people tells that it's processor or/and PSU can get very hot. One guy (on Ali) did wrote the comment that his device got burnt (the PSU). I'm leaning to buy Hantek but that message wasn't "happy" or motivating to me.
Hi! They had some updates, I didn't update mine yet, I'll do a howto video a soon on the update and after the "real" bandwidth using the rise time method. In terms of usage and if it gets hot, yes it gets. As any normal oscilloscope, if you get to much trouble about it, it probably be a good idea to add a fan, you have everything in place, just missing the fan, but there are some videos here on YT showing how you can add a fan to it. Anyway, I manage to crash it not by the heat but some other issues. In terms of heat I had it working for like 5 to 6 hours without major issues, but I think that might be because I work at night when is fresher. If you work during the day on a harm country, maybe it is a bigger issue. Anyway, thanks for watching and your comment. If you decide to buy one please consider using the links on the video description, it will help a lot the channel! Cheers! 👍
Hantek 2d15 radiates armonics in front about 0.5meters and 5cm in the back (generator was off). Can not use to adjust radio.Hantek did not answer to my email.
Hi Nuelmar, if my goal is accuracy, I'll go with Owon. For a more complete solution will choose Hantek. This is not what is the best, it depends on your goal. But with one of those two, you'll be ok. Thanks for watching!
Bells and whistles are nice but since an oscilloscope is a measurement tool it would seem that accuracy is paramount and so the OWON is the only one here that is actually passable.
Watching this two years later as all these models are still available. I'e considered an older tek analogue scope or one of these cheaper chineseum scopes. I don't need super accurate, and even though I love older equipment and I know tek would be a good scope, being older it lacks a lot of features and these scopes you've reviewed would likely be good enough for me. Particularly the hantek and owon's.
Hi, take a look on this recent video th-cam.com/video/s0X_4tjBWqc/w-d-xo.html . I made it last month, it's a bargain from the price and it his really good. Thanks for watching.
Apparently there are these FNIRSI scopes in the wild, this model, from about that era when you might have bought it, where the frontend is stuck in AC coupling mode, regardless of what the digital part thinks it's at and trying to set it to, because they soldered in the optocoupler that drives the relay rotated by 180 degrees, the wrong way around! Do you think yours has this fault, and it is the one you gave away? By all reason the relay should click when you change coupling mode.
Hey Siana, I do think I received a messed up unit, but it's not that problem of the inverted octocouplers, FNIRSI contacted me about this issue to check my unit, we did some tests and it was ok. But, other than that, I really had some issues with it... I gave my unit on a giveaway not knowing of this issues, well I bought the oscilloscope to review and offer, so I didn't know then. But after all the viewers comments I saw, it not hard to figure it out that something might be wrong. Thanks for watching. 👍
@@TechCornerTV Thanks for helping me with my scope purchase decision, whenever it may come, probably really soon. At best, even regardless of spotty manufacturing and firmware issues, it doesn't seem to reach the true analogue bandwidth of the other scopes in this price category, and if their older devices are anything to go by, probably undersamples and aliases quite a bit more than others - while the price is attractive, the other two only come up 20% more expensive and the companies have a history of actual measurement device experience. I don't really doubt that FNIRSI will get there eventually, the way things go, but probably not with this model, and also likely not quite at this price point, ultimately there is an inherent cost to getting things done properly. I would really appreciate if such a device could be a community project with open firmware and at least hardware schematics - it would make me lean heavily towards it even with hardware drawbacks. Miniware is such a company but the specs are outright insufficient.
@@SianaGearz You're right, it is a pitty that the miniware doesn't have a bit more juice in it, because it will be a killer in the small oscilloscope market. I really loved the experience of using it, you have premium all over it... 😁 just a few UI improvements and a bit more bw and sample rate and it will a no brainer. But again, the market positioning of opening the souce code to anyone is something awesome and they deserve all our support.
@@SianaGearz Just to complement my answer regarding the two other oscilloscopes of this review, for the price range, Owon seems to be a bit more accurate but you'll be ok with any of them.
Thank you for your fantastic reviews. I am interested in the FNIRSI 1014D which seems to give me all the functions I need. But there's one function I am not sure about and I definitely need, External trigger. I have seen in some specs that state "External trigger voltage 0~40 V" Please does anyone know how to apply external trigger and if there are selection options i.e. +/- slope, trigger voltage level. This is a deal breaker for me deciding which scope to purchase. Chris
Hi, I don't think that 1014D has external trigger, don't have mine anymore, but I don't think so, you get a very basic set of functions. Thanks for watching!
Thank you so much for your reply, sorry that you haven't got yours anymore to give me a definite reply on Ext trig or not. Has anyone else got a 1014D to confirm if it has External trigger, where it is input, and does it have selections i.e +/- slope, trigger point. Will be very grateful for any replies. Chris
What's the best one for an idiot who's wants to learn more about testing components? Someone who doesn't know enough to be able to answer the inevitable "depends what you're looking for" response to which one the best one is. I don't plan on using it for product development just learn about IC, motor driving, induction converters, MOSFETs etc. Which one would I do best with.
Hi! If you're a total begginer and want it more for learning everything you can with it, the Hantek is the one that will give you more options for a marginal price increase. You'll get the oscilloscope, arbitrary function generator, the protocol decoder and it will allow you to connect to the PC. Owon, will give you more accurate results, but has less options delivered. I will stay only between one of those two options. I hope, I answered you question. Thanks for watching and your comment. 👍
Thanks for clarifying what you get more or less for the money you spend. Any advice for a sub 100€ / 120$ USB oscilloscop that can do ac and dc ? I have purchased the hantek 6022BL and when it arrived I suddenly realised that it has NO AC COUPLING while the 15 € more expensive one OWON had it on board beyond more bandwith which also a lot claimed fake on the Hantek with its 20 Mhz promised and real world measurements just showed about 1 Mhz instead of 20 Mhz promised. That being said I like the hscope android software, how reliable it connects to an old android 6 tablet with 8 inch screen and how well it runs - for over 3 hours the cheap 100€ full metal build ifive mini tablet is able to power itself and the hantek oscilloscope but in the end could not provide 230V ac coupling needed for checking solar power inverters and their purity sine wave output. Hope you have a recommendation for such black box style oscilloscope that could work out for me. I also had seen a diy one HS402 wifi developed by the maker of the hscope app Martin Loreen but I am new and do not wanna start with smd soldering of tiny parts to get an oscilloscope that I might need to get the soldering diy wifi osci right. Thx.
Hi! Look, I've heard a lot of positive things about this oscilloscope ( geni.us/vwIRol ) from Owon, its the HDS242 but **I've not tested yet**, so I'm just pointing out what I heard, I took a look in the description and it has "nput Coupling: DC, AC, and Ground", so might be something you're looking for. Regarding a black box oscilloscope I've only tested the Loto OSC02X and I liked a lot, the only thing is that isn't a 100Mhz oscilloscope, but it worked very well and they provide some kind of open source socket for expansion, I have a review on it. Thanks for watching! 👍
никогда не пользуюсь кнопкой авто. может я перестраховываюсь, но что будет делать авто, если ожидаемый сигнал это редкие импульсы в 100 вольт с пьедесталом в ноль вольт? Обычно я знаю что я ожидаю увидеть и заранее выставляю нужный диапазон, а если не знаю начинаю со ста вольт на клетку. ЧЯДН?
Hi Sandeeo, if it was me I'll go with the SDS1102 or if you have a bit more to invest, the 2C10/15 will be a nive option, it gives a bit more features like the protocol decoder and the function generator. Hope it helped, thanks for watching and if you decide to buy, use can always help the channel and use the links in the description! 😁
Wrong here maybe. I expect you push the x1 button on the oscilloscope is to tell the oscilloscope you have a direct x1 probe. Unless the probe has a switch or you use the direct alligator clips, you can not get a correct reading.
Hey Gary, you're not wrong but, some oscilloscopes detect automaticly the attenuation but these do not. I messed with that configuration somewhere in the video? I might this was the second video to be recorded in the night (the first one was the portuguese version) and after 2AM there is a bigger chance to make errors... if I screwed up sorry for that! Thanks for watching! 👍
Hey Dell, Owon is less complete but for my personal opinion, its more accurate than the Hantek. Hantek is more complete and fairly accurate, but more expensive (both scopes with 2 channels). Bottom line, it depends om your wallet and needs, for example I don't have the need for a function generator, so Owon accuracy is more important to me. There isn't a right answer here, they're both oscilloscopes (for the price) and you'll be ok with any of them. I know that's not a "choose one from three" answer, but neither is reality 😁 I'll be ok with any of them, my personal choice will be Owon, but thats me, not a recomendation. Thanks for watching and your comment. 👍
Please think about the adjustments of the probes. As higher the frequency, the more influence has a proper adjustment. When you would exchange the both probes, I guess the more weak channel for higher frequencies would also change. Like someone before mentioned, I would prefer to see high frequencies rectagular signals for a better overview. But in principle, I'm fine with your videos 👍.
Hi Michael, sorry the late reply, trying to keep up with the comments, not easy. Thank you for the tips and for you comment, really appreciated. I will try to show more the square wave on the videos, thanks for watching!
is there any way to slow down,, that fast update speed of hantek,,,, as for overheating... maybe deill few holes... and keep small slow fan nearby,,huh
Hi Kay, no need for drill. There is a video here in the comments of a guy in russia that solved that with two heatsinks in the ADC. But you also have the mount for a fan, just no fan supplied. Thanks for watching! 👍
Hantek 2d15 radiates harmonics in front for about 0.5 m and 5 cm in back. Can not use to adjust IF radio. New firmaware did not help. Anyway can not know what improvements the new firmware supose to correct because Hantek did not say. This is a sign that they are not profi. Any new firmware should have a record about what problem will solve.
Hi Lucian, I'm so in tune with you. I don't get it, it's so easy and not that much work to do the extra mile and give that information, don't understand why they do it always my the least effort possible. Thanks for watching.
Hi, yes there is always some issues with entry level oscilloscopes like this, they're cheaper because use cheaper components, so something gotta give, but in general you can work well with them. Thanks for watching!
hello every body, few days ago the Hanteck dso2D10 arrives in my house. I tried the SINGLE mode. Everything works with Edge RISING, but nothing work with Edge FALLING (or Either). someone have found the same as me ??
@Guy Fradasyl I returned from holidays today and I didn't have the time to test it, family comes first 😁 as soon I get some free time I will test it and get back to you on this.
The FNIRSI scope does not meet its basic specs. Instead of 1G samples/sec and 100MHz, it's 200M samples/sec and about 30MHz. See the learnelectronics review for more details.
Hi Mike, I agree with you. It was a bit slower in some cases, but much more precise/accurate in the measurements. Even with the last hantek firmware updates, owon still has more accurate readings. FNIRSI is not even in the same league. Thanks for watching! 👍
If one of my scopes were as inaccurate as the FNIRSI or Hantek, I wouldn't attempt to calibrate it...I'd troubleshoot it, and find and replace the defective component!
Hey Clyde, yes I understand what you're saying. But most of the times it is a firmware problem and for that, the only way is the manufacturer release a new firmware. The other point is, the idea of the video is what would you get as it is delivered from the factory, to show what comes from the factory and compare them all. Thanks for watching! 👍
@@TechCornerTV These Chinese companies are using their customers for :field testing"! In the past, no respectable company, like Tek or H-P (or even Heathkit or Eico), would have released a product for sale, with so many bugs.
Hi, I understand, I'll try to make it better in next comparations, but this video took so much time to get done... specially because at the time I would record in english and portuguese (my natural language). But I quit that, now only have the english channel. Don't have the time to mantain both. Thanks for watching!
Hi, you probably right, it's not near a perfect a analysis but I tried to cover all the three devices in fairly equal way. But there's always room for improvement, thanks for your tip, I really appreciate it! Thanks for watching and your comment 👍
Olá Marcelo, tenho ouvido bons comentários do DSO5*02 da Hantek, mas nunca testei... são tantos equipamentos e tão caros, que se os fabricantes não ajudarem é dificil experimentar todos. Essa série é mais antiga e é mais parecida com os produtos Owon, não traz tantas soluções como descodificador de protocolos, gerador de sinais, etc, mas por outro lado é muito mais estável e fiável. São equipamentos feitos noutra época em que não existiam estes osciloscópios de entrada de gama mais em conta. Obrigado por assistires! 👍
Hey Rick! I went back to the workbench after reading your comment and connected again the 2D10 to the power supply to measure the voltage again. I was able to get a 110mV to a 100mV signal, that is well way more near than I had during the video recording and for a 10mV signal, I had a reading of 25mV. I thing this oscilloscope heats a lot or have some issue like that (as I told in the video it freezed a couple of times), because now I just power it up and was reading these values, even with autoset, and when recording I have it powered on for several hours and the results where all over the place. That sait, I do believe I might have done some error while recording, I don't exclude that I might have done something wrong while recording... but anyway, thank you for watching and for your comment/suggestion. 👍
@@TechCornerTV This makes a poor review that you didn't edit this error out. Watching the DC voltage tests showed lots of glitches on the waveforms which should be a clue that your setup is not correct.
@@Dont_Gnaw_on_the_Kitty_1 Hey there! Ok, I accept that, I'm sorry if something went wrong. This is a learning process for me and I hope that the next videos will be better. Thanks anyway for watching and for the comment, it was a constructive critique and those are always welcome. Kudos. 👍
@@TechCornerTV Maybe re-edit? The finarsi scope is plain faulty or incorrectly setup as well. This is a disservice that you continue to use this scope in this review. There is plenty of good editing software around and its great to get reviews of these scopes, just that it needs to be accurate.
No, the FNIRSI has problems, that I don't have any doubts, unfortunatelly. Just join the FNIRSI whatsapp group to understand that there is a lot of users complaining the same issue. In youtube is not possible to re-edit and re-upload a video. Next time it will be better.
Hello! For me the best option is Owon SDS1102/1104 or Hantek DSO2D10. FNIRSI 1014D is a bit buggy right now, the support is working on a new firmware, but isn't clear if it will solve the problems or when it will be released. So, OWON is very stable and Hantek is very complete and very good unit also. This is my opinion. Hope it helps. Thanks for watching. 👍
Funny how so many people gave the Fnirsi 1014d fantastic reviews when it came out, yet anyone can see from seeing it in real life its rubbish and feels like a toy.
Hi, I had one of the first units that came out, I have the first video on it, but I think that my unit wasn't ok, it had some problem. Even so, that will not take credit of your comment 😁 Thanks for watching!
Hi Dominik, you can always sell your test equipment on OLX or something like that and upgrade. But if it works for what you do, you should be ok, if it doesn't, as I told you, you can always sell and buy another. Test equipment don't lose that much value on resell. Thanks for watching!!
Fnirsi oscilloscopes are junk! I'm purchasing a real oscilloscope and putting my Finirsi 1014d back in the box! I lost my money! I'm thinking about taking it to electronics recycling.😠 On another note yes, Hantek oscilloscopes do tend to freeze up but, I'm considering purchasing one anyway.
Hi Brian, thanks for sharing. In hantek if you use it for long hours, you can install a fan, they even have the holder for it, don't know why didn't spend a few cents more to add that. The latest firmwares are also more accurate, so it is a nice option. Thanks for watching!
Olá Marcelo, no datasheet da Owon SDS1104 o que menciona é que a voltagem de entrada máxima é de "400V (DC+AC, PK - PK)". Por isso, podemos concluir que com um aponta de prova de 10X podemos medir até 400V. Obrigado por assistires! 👍
The Hantek will read low DC voltages pretty accurately in DVM mode, once you connect it directly through low resistance bnc and you adjust the measuring range (scale that can be seen in the DVM panel) to what you’re measuring, by turning the Volts/DIV knob. That range is not documented in the manual, but works great to get more precise measurements.
Software 1.0.1.1.0 Firmware 3202.
Hey Werner, sorry for this late reply but I don't know why your comment was marked as "Held for review" and only noticed it now. Several users pointed out that the Hantek works ok with low voltages if you regulate it manually instead of using the auto. So, I understand that it is a problem the auto is not working properlly but the bottom line is the oscilloscope is able to read correctly low voltages if you do it manually. I have to upgrade mine, but have to confess that don't have much time now... thanks for watching and your comment! 👍
@@TechCornerTV Another thing is that you used 4Kb/p try to use all of his 8mb, to have more space for details, is clearly (at least this is why i'm thinking) that is missing details and isn't collecting all info.
Thank you Hugo for your great effort to compare these 3 models. It helps me re-consider which model to order for next project study 👍🏻 👍🏻👍🏻
HI, thats the idea of this channel, I'm trying to share what we get when we buy this equipments so you can take a more informed decision when buying it. Test equipment is not cheap.... thanks for watching!
Thanks Hugo. Very helpful analysis on all three oscilloscopes. As a mature aged student, I was considering the three mostly because of cost. I was initially thinking of an entry Siglent but they start at about 400AUD. After watching your analysis, I think I’ll spend the extra money for a higher quality oscilloscope mostly to avoid confusion when conducting experiments due to limitations/ inaccuracies that you’ve discovered with your tests. Excellent honest review. Thanks again. Craig
Hi, I will release this week a video of the CDEK SDS1102X, is currently on AliExpress between 126€ to 144€. As a spoiler, it is a real 100Mhz 1GSa/s oscilloscope, with all the percs and much faster than the SDS1104 on this video. I was really amazed. It is made by owon, is rebrand and is a total bargain, you can have it by the price of a handheld device. It should be online this fridary, take a look in the video. If you don't want to spend much, this might be a good deal. If you have the €€€/$$$ for a better equipment, it's always a good investment something with a better name. Thanks for watching.
Your review helped me a lot. So I bought a Hantek DSO2D10. I am satisfied with my choice! Thank you! 23.07.26(월)
Hi, glad I could help! That's a nice oscilloscope. Thanks for watching.
혹시 여전히 만족하시나요..? 어떤 단점이 있을까요..?
Hi Hugo, thanks for the video and massive effort - entertaining as always, and looking forward to the next one! I have some feedback on the measurements you performed.
I had to go and double-check my Hantek 2D15 after your video. I am a hobbyist and still learning, and I have learnt something today thanks to you! Firstly I was thrilled to see my Hantek measures DC voltage very accurately, all the way down to 50mv.
In order for this oscilloscope to get accurate DC voltage measurements you need 2 things:
1) Do NOT use the Auto button because it sets the vertical scale too high which severely affects the reading;
2) Manually lower the vertical scale by a lot to get accurate readings.
I will explain the second point: If you measure within the 10 V range, set the vertical scale to 1V/division or less and scroll down to bring the signal into view. Or, if you measure
Hello! Yeah this one took me a lot of effort, took one week to record and assemble and record again and so on... and only this week I went to bed 3 times near 4am, but all that is with a lot of goodwill and I am really happy if this videos help someone to decide what to buy, electronics is a very expensive hobby and I target my videos to hobbyist like me, to explain the maximum so you can do a informed decision when buying.
Regarding your post and the info in it, it is huge help. Of course that the AUTOSET should work, Owon didn't have any issue with it, my Rigol also, but due to the price and the number of features in it, I think it deserves some slack... 😁 I am thinking to do a follow up video with some teardown, the questions and suggestions you guys gave me, yeah I think it will happen.
I have more than 30 kits to assemble (those kits will be to the "Projects" part of the channel), but with these reviews I haven't had the time yet to start assembling them... I will start with those in september. It can't be all oscilloscopes, theres no budget that can handle so much equipment.
The next videos will appear only in beggining of september, taking 2 weeks to rest and get some sun 😎 Thank you so much for your watching, support and to take the time to write this fantastic comment! Kudos! Stay safe 👍
This is great. Nice to hear that we have the same issues with this scope and a way to "fix" them
lalu225,
I just received my "HANTEK 2D15" today. VERY excited! I was wanting to ask you a question, if you don't mind?
You stated that you installed the latest firmware update, from 3000 to 3102. I checked and my firmware is 3000 as well. After updating your firmware, did you have any issues?
Also, did you notice some improvement to the overall function of your "2D15"?
I ask, just to make sure there are no issues with the latest firmware, before I update mine.
MANY thanks for your time!
Patrick
@@FordSeniorMaster Hi Patrick, no worries thanks for asking. In short, no issues after the update and I haven't noticed any improvements. Having said that, I performed the update the day after receiving the unit, and I did not play enough with it beforehand to notice any change (nor did I have enough competence to notice, to be honest). I tested many combinations of firmware & software and decided to stick to the one that gave me a stable waveform from the internal function generator at a high frequency. With some combinations of firmware & software, the unit did not acquire the signal well, so I used this criterion to evaluate. The unit is very robust to software updates, I probably changed it 10 times. HOWEVER, before updating make sure you follow the guidelines posted by DavidAlfa on the EEVblog forum. The title of the post is "Hantek DSO2x1x models: firmware updates and best use practices". This user created a comprehensive guide and a repository of files. 3102 is not the latest firmware but the latest firmware that works on units with a base firmware of 3000. Whatever update you make, play it safe, and don't update to a firmware greater than 3102. Or just leave it as it is until you discover a bug and then you'll have a good reason to perform an update. Beware that some software updates will change your firmware. You'll find all the details on the forum. Hope this helps.
@@lalu225 Thank you VERY MUCH for the very informative reply. I GREATLY appreciate your time. I am very excited to start learning the full benefits of this AWESOME oscilloscope.
Again, MANY THANKS my friend!
Patrick
I just ordered a OWON SDS1104 clone for $104 on sale, 50% off. Looks identical! really appreciate your comparison of these scopes because it helped me decided which one to get.
Hi, still have mine and will test in a few days/weeks the CDEK SDS1102 that I have here, also a clone from Owon SDS1102 to see if the quality is the same. Thanks for sharing and watching.
Excellent comparison Hugo. Your attention to detail and the way you present and compare the products makes it easy for us to see. Thank you for all your hard work.
Glad you like! Thank you so much for your support, watch and comment! This one it was really hard work it took a week to record and specially to assemble... well I have english and portuguese versions (channels) of the video, so double work... thats on me! 😁
Yep, full support, give us novices a chance at this great Subject...
23rdJuly'23, 23:41.p.m.
Excellent content .. is hard to find comparisons with real data .. most others out there are made of just fluff info like how touching the buttons makes them feel fuzzy inside. Thank You for taking the time to provide solid info.. Cheers :)
Hi, glad it was helpful! It really gave me a lot of work, but in the end paysoff if it can help people, thanks for watching!
As always Hugo good video… I’ve received my fnirsi 1014D scope after 2 failed attempt of buying it.. and this video show me how to test it ( yes… the scope is still in the box, I didn’t open it yet ) So thank you again.. Hugo. Maybe I’ll update you when I’ve done the test..
Hello! Yes please do, update me when you test it. I'd love to know your experience. I hope not, but if you have any issues, just join the FNIRSI whatsapp group for support, they are very responsive. Hope you enjoy your 1014D, even after all, I still love workin with it, well no more... that unit was sent to Brian from Texas on monday. He was the winner of the channel oscilloscope giveway... thank you for watching and for you comment. 👍
Great Comparison, thanks again for this fantastic Video and your effort in making these Videos! I think they are very helpfull for all people wanting an entry level oscilloscope!
Glad it was helpful! I sweat a lot in this one.... really a lot of time in it. Thank you for watching and your nice comment 👍
I need to be able to trust the values my oscillo is measuring and displays. I don't want to spend some time double checking with an additional equipment... I initially thought to buy a Hantek (for it's integrated frequency generator), but after your video, I opted for a OWON SDS1102 (I'll buy a separate FG). Thanks for this very interesting video.
Hola Hugo, muy buena comparación de los tres osciloscopios, pusiste en evidencia las caracteristicas de cada uno. Gracias
Hola Mario, gracias! I can read/understand spanish but don't know enough to write more than this, thanks so much for watching 👍
Thanks so much for this video. It really helps me in choosing my first oscilloscope. I will go with Hantek.
Hi, glad I could help! Hope you enjoy your new oscilloscope 😁 thanks for watching!
thnk´s for that review, i have an Oon sds1102, and now im glade for i havebeen do that select.
Hi, glad I could help and enjoy your SDS1102, those are small, but pretty awesome devices. Thanks for watching!
@@TechCornerTV 🙂
I appreciate very much your indepth review. Very informative. Thank you!
Hi, glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
When you were pressing the Auto Button on the Hantek, the Yellow scale range kept changing to either a too high value giving an incorrect reading or too low giving you an error. When it was set to 500mV at 27.30 the reading was almost spot on.... Looks like an error on the auto range setting!
Hi, the auto range works, but it isn't that good. If you manually set the time and amplitude, it tends to be more accurate. I agree with you. Thanks for watching 👍
Thank you Hugo great comparision invaluable! youve helped me decide these wont meet my needs.
Hey Chris, glad I could help! Thanks for watching. 👍
The more I use the FNIRSI 1040D the more I get used to it and discover more way to not only make use of it but to get accurate readings. It's much more different than the older analog scopes. Still, it's the best scope on the bench and for field work.
Hi, glad to hear it. The one I had, should have some factory product. I like working with it, pretty simple and easy to work. Thanks for watching! 👍
I got one on Temu for $144 Au
(with a voucher).
I must say for the $ it’s actually better than my old Tek Cro.
Good review, once again well done! Very helpful for us with not much money to spend. Thanks for your time and effort.
My pleasure! I am from the time of the BBS with modems and all that stuff and I had one of the most known portuguese programmers BBS in the 90's... it was a great community. This last year I had finally the time and drive to start with electronics in a diferent level and to create this channels and I do love this, I make this videos with love and I hope that helps someone out there. It allows me to be part again of a community of geeks! I missed that 😁 Thank you for watching and your kind comment. 👍
That’s an awesome comparison, thanks a lot for sharing that gives me an idea of which suits me. 👍👍👍
Hey Jimmy, glad I could help. If you decide to buy one, don't forget to use the access links on the description to enter Aliexpress, Amazon or Banggood 😁, it will allow me to receive a very small fee if you buy but it will not affect your price. Thanks for watching and your nice comment! 👍
Thank you for making it easier to decide!
Hi, glad it was helpful 😁 thanks for watching
On FNIRSI you are looking at a phantom waveform image, that was formed due to aliasing of ADC running at 100 MHz.
Hi! Thank you for sharing and for your tip!
From its manual, "The bandwidth of the 1X probe is 5Mhz, the bandwidth of the 10X probe is 100Mhz. When measuring frequencies above 5Mhz the switch on the probe needs to be set at 10X, and the scope needs to be set to 10X.
Are you using the correct probe?
Hello! Sorry for late reply, house move and vacations. Yes, the probe and the oscilloscopes where at 10X. Thanks for watching and sharing!
You might need to set the output impedance of your signal generator to match the input of the scope. each scope has a different impedance...
Hey Joshua, thank you for your tip. I went back to see the function generator configuration and it is on HighZ and the scopes are also. I don't know if this what you're talking about, but on my next videos I will have a special attention to make sure both devices are on the same page. Thank you for warning me for this. 🤜🤛👍
From this compare, I give Hantek most worthy.
Remind me of earlier digital scope in my Univ lab decades ago, with poorer performance than these scopes ,It cost 6000$ up. We almost couldn't reach it then. Only analog scope for students used.
Hey Alex, agree with you. Not the most accurate, but it has a nice pack of features for the price. Thanks for watching! 👍
I purchased the D15 and love it so far. Nothing negative to say about it honestly. I just do Arduino projects with ESPs and UNOs and also Raspberry Pis. Works great.
You can get a used, older, traditional scope for the cost of one of these, or less. Remember, "Old Tektronix scopes never die, they just get repaired." And there's NOTHING these scopes can do, that the old ones can't (except the FFT. But a REAL spectrum analyzer is SO much better!). And it's easier to use the knobs and buttons of a traditional scope, than memorize and use all the complicated menu procedures.
Hi Clyde, a 100Mhz tektronix, even in second hand or anolog, it will be more expensive that one of this low entry units. But you'll have a really accurate tool, thats true! Thanks for watching! 👍
You should've tested the bandwidth as well. I am surprised Hantek was such a crappy scope, with lots of features and a missing probe. I think you can definitely return Hantek and Fnirsi.
Hey Ergin! This video took so much time to get it all... anyway, you can see the bandwidth performance up to 60Mhz in the video... but yeah, they all have pros and cons... I hope this video was useful 😀 thank you for watching and your comment 👍
@@TechCornerTV Don't get me wrong it's a great video and I appreciate your effort. You don't actually need to teardown these devices, as in your case, a black box test tells all. Why am I concerned with the bandwidth? Because all Chinese manufacturers lie about it and the sampling rate. It's actually pretty straightforward task to determine the sampling frequency without opening the box and checking the fake chips. I have also noticed the noise levels are also different. Just little suggestions so you don't run out of ideas in your upcoming videos.
Read the posting above regarding the HANTEK 2D15 low voltage settings/readings. It has to do with the way it was being set . The HANTEK 2000 Series are NOT "crappy" instruments.
Also, it wasn't missing a 2nd probe. That is clearly stated in the product description when purchasing from HANTEK.
I agree, it DSO2000 is a good line of oscilloscopes, for the price you pay they are awesome. It might have some bugs, but I believe that is only firmware issues that can be fixed.
I am EEE student and electronic hobbyist. I am using Fnirsi 1014d. I love Fnirsi devices, there are easiest other brands for using. I recommend every student should be got Oscilloscope. And ı recommend Fnirsi for student. But its not for a proffessional. İts cheap and enough.
Hello, thank you for sharing your input and for watching!
Very helpful, thanks! I think I will get the Owon.
Hey Mark, good choice! I like very much mine... is the most accurate of my entry level oscilloscopes. Thanks for watching! 👍
The ADS1014D has a ground loop problem with the power supply (usb) inside, this is the reason for screwed voltage measurements. If you power it via a battery pack / usb power bank, voltage readings are more precise.
Hi, very nice tip! Thanks for watching! 👍
I don't know why there is no mention of an output tone from the Signal Generator.... I know that the generator outputs a sine-wave because I can see it on the scale... but is there also a signal tone for a radio speaker that you can physically hear from a speaker ? I'm trying to do a shortwave radio alignment and I need to physically hear the 455Khz signal tone from the generator.
Thanks for a comparison. To be honest, I am (hopefully not was) about to make myself some Xmas gift. It had to be Hantek DSO2C10 (because of the protocols decoding feature). Seeing that my multi-meter is way closer to truth with mV, I'm getting some 2nd thoughts about it and leaning toward Owon SDS1102. Not sure...
Hi! You'le be ok with any of them. Owon seamed a bit more stable, but they're both are good scopes for the price. If you buy a Salae logic analyser clone $5 to $10 you'll have a logic analyser + protocol decoder, the function generator, you'll lhave cheap a nice products for $5 to $20... isn't incorporated all in one, but maybe you don't need that. As I said, with any of them you'll be ok. Thanks for watching and season greatings 😁👍
@@TechCornerTV Thank you!
@10.16 you are measuring 327mV ripple on your +5V DC supply because you are using AC coupling. That is why it doesn't read +5V.
HI, hmm... it might be! I'll check that out better, thanks for your input and for watching! 👍
this year is 2024, I just aquired fnirsi 1014D and my reading of 5V is 5V, it's correct. May be in the past it had errors in that characteristic.
I enjoyed your video I was wondering if any of the issues with the oscilloscopes was resolved with the firmware upgrade or has there been thanks in advance...
Hi, which one are you refering to? FNIRSI? Don't know, it was given on a channel giveaway. Regarding the Hantek still had some issues that were being resolved trough continuous firmware upgrades. Thanks for watching!
@@TechCornerTV well what I'm trying to say is looking for a budget oscilloscope for the most bang for my buck that's not all janky full of bugs and corks
A oscilloscope that you think that is worthy of my money lol
This is a big question and a big ask perhaps but I'm looking to get into experiments with dual frequencies, in low to high volt (20,000) Pulsed emf results in various coils like rodin coils, abha coils and stuff like that. I'm having trouble figuring out what I need, and what is the minimum gear I need for it. I've been looking at al sorts of function generators, and pwm's, I'm still getting to grips with some of the stuff but overwhelmed too, there seems to be carious ways to set this up but high volt dc stuff...not really finding much in the budget range. Can you help me out here and suggest some still semi budget gear that would fit my requirements.
Tho, the higher volt 70,000 singing tesla coils and stuff is drawing my interest too.
And though I may be new to it, I understand the risks but would be following tutorials and such for probably a good lot of months until all the safety stuff was ingrained in me, but i'm not finding others experimenting with high volt and coils, if they're playing with coils, its usually much less voltage. So, if you can suggest and online courses or channels that go in to this I would appreciate it.
Hi, first of all, really ashamed for replying so late, but life got in the way and I have a lot of comments to catchup. If you're working with tentions above the oscilloscope maximum voltage, you should use a high voltage probe, but 70000 volts should be a bit, I'm not qualified to offer opinion for this case. Thanks for watching.
Thank you for your work in analyzing these three oscilloscopes. Forst and foremost, I learned one thing: at this price level, you get what you pay for. Very inaccurate and unreliable. I think the chips and finetuning in these instruments are just too cheaply made. I will therefore not buy ne of these. I will have to look for something better as my first oscilloscope.
Thank you a lot for you work.
Kind regards.
Hey Jacques, I share your opinion to a point, Owon seemed more reliable than the rest of the bunch, but I think it will not be able to provide the 100Mhz bandwidth also. I will test that soon in a new video with a fast edge signal generator and the rise time method. Unfortunetely (well for this test, a big luck for the giveway winner) I gave the FNIRSI 1014D on one of the channel giveaways, but I'm sure that will not be able to get to 100Mhz mark. The remaining will enter in a new video were I will test them all. But the rule is and here you're totally right, you got what you pay for. Thanks for watching and your comment! 💪👍
Hugo, are both probs used on the hantek the same? In particular, their bandwidth rating?
The hantek comes with a single pair rated at 150Mhz and most of what i see online are either 100 or 200Mhz.
Hi, sorry the late reply, trying to keep up with the comments, not easy. I went to check and you're right, it was delivered with a PP-150 100Mhz probe, so this is kind of shot in the foot from Hantek. For the review I used what the brands supplied, if they send a 100Mhz probe for a 150Mhz oscilloscope and the review doesn't go so well in they favour, they can't complain. But that was a very nice point that you brought and totally missed me in the recording, thanks for sharing and for watching!
Between this FNIRSI 1014D model and the FNIRSI DPOX180H, which one do you think has better accuracy at higher frequencies? And which one would you recommend for someone learning electronics?
Hello, I tested the 1014D as soon it was released, since then it might get some better components that make it more accurate. The DSOX180H is my all time small oscilloscope, closelly followed by the Zeeweii DSO2512G and now the DSO3D12 (I have reviews on both of them) and the last one even has a voice assistent. They are different products, the fact of having a desktop oscilloscope, gives you a better platform to work. In terms of features the other models I mentioned, have more features and are in general more accurate. To learn, the 1014D, to keep for the following years, one of the mentioned models, have a smaller screen, but more features and more accuracy. Thanks for watching.
How to check fnirsi 1014D Latest software update or not update
Hi, that was a big issue up to the latest v3.0 firmware in october 2021, after this upgrade the scope shows on the boot page the version and now is possible to know if your scope is updated or not... so, if you don't have the firmware version on the boot page, you need to update. Hope I answered your question. Thanks for watching. 👍
Thank you very much sir, it was really helpful 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Hi great video. About the FNIRSI 1014D I just saw couple of videos and testing, and it did not get a good review at all, can't get up to 100mhz more like 20 or 30 ish, same for sampling. I am starting and checking to get a good one to start, but don't want to get crap for my money . Will go for the Hantek dsI2d10 100 mhz, and will try to upgrade to 200 lol. So for a couple of reviews I saw, the 1014d is a stay away from. Just my 2 cents again I am a newbee lol
Hi, you're not wrong on what you said. I have a few videos on the DSO2x1x series and you can find in one the videos, can't recall now in which one, how to do the model "upgrade", just a hint 😁 If you're considering buying it, give the channel some love and use the affiliate link in the description! Thanks for watching and your kind comment!
@@TechCornerTV Will do !!!! Now considering a 4 channel as might need more then 2 samples. Was going for the Owon sds1104 but has only 20k for definition or depth. Saw many have 10M or 14m so still looking.
I think 85
I wonder how these compare to my ancient but much more expensive TDS3012(+FFT). I suspect generally more capable but probably less accurate.
Hi! It's a tektronix, I might be wrong but I think it's more accurate any day of the week than any of the oscilloscopes in this review 😁 thanks for watching 👍
Recomendarias el osciloscopio finirsi para usarlo en reparaciones de amplificadores de audio , gracias x tu video muy bueno
Hola! Si 😁and thats what I can write in spanish, sorry! But to be honest, you'll be better served with any of the other two. Thanks for watching!
@@TechCornerTV gracias
You need to zoom on the vertical axis as much as possible to get the full wave displayed on the screen, it will give the better resolution possible on your voltage measurement, it wasn’t always made it seems, autoset should do it for yoy but if not, do it yourself!
Hey Paul, hmm I understand, I will record tonight the new test on the Hantek DSO2D10 and I will take that in consideration, thanks!
@@TechCornerTV Great, I am interested to see how precise it can be, just make sure the wave is completely displayed on the screen and it is as big as possible :)
Hello Hugo, can I ask.., what have you connected to, with your probes, on the FNIRSI 1014D, to get your Frequency's... like your show, {just bought this model},. Need the Education. Thank you
Hello Gabriel, can you tell me the minute in the video that you're talking about? Thanks for watching!
@@TechCornerTV Thanks Hugo, I'll go to where you were testing the FNIRSI 1014D it's about where the Test Probes were connected to.
Q. I have some Old Technology Stuff, Panasonic Video Machine, would like to Connect to Panasonic Editing Controller, using New Technology Connectors, i.e, VGA, USB, BNC, could I Wire a Circuit, to Connect them.?
Have Photos, if you can help me with..
Thank you for your Show... Do you get some Sleep..?
First of all, thank you for making such a great and well informed video. I have learned alot from your review videos on each unit and this video to put all of them side by side. So yea, awesome job Hugo.
- can you make a new review video on the Hantek unit but after installing the two heatsinks and a fan (maybe put that process in the same video).
- I read somewhere that the probes that come with these cheap units are junk. Have you tried to use "good" probes with them and if so, does it help to get more accurate results?
- Can you suggest or link to better probes we should get when we purchase any of these units? Maybe something that is budget friendly for us hobbyists, but still give better performance then the ones you get with the scope? Same question for both 100Mhz and 150Mhz probes.
- is there a accuracy difference between the Hantek 100Mhz and 150Mhz versions? If the cost was the same, would the 150Mhz version be the better choice to get? Maybe ask Hantek if they can send you the 150Mhz version to do a side by side test???
- it's been almost a month since you made this video. Is there newer firmware/software that has been released that would fix the problems or add more features to the Hantek models?
Thanks again and much love from Canada !!
Hello John! Thank you so much for watching and for taking the time to write such a nice comment full of great ideas. Let me try to answer everything:
1) I do have a new video on forge for the Hantek DSO2D10, you guys have been wondeful and I do have a bunch of ideas to test in a new video, I am bit swamped here, right now produting 3 videos and need to get some time to get all my backlog done, but it will happen
2) Regarding the probes, you're probably right and this is good idea, I can test it using the probes of Owon that gave better results and from my Rigol, those are 300Mhz nice probes. It seems we have a plan here.
Continuing, sorry accidentelly pressed enter 😁 3) I don't have the 150Mhz version and Hantek doesn't event replied to me, so I bought this from my pocket, so can't test it. I do intend to do a video how to upgrade from 100Mhz to 150Mhz... but only in the end of testing everything because if something goes wrong I already filmed everything I need with the oscilloscope.
5) new firmware update, a lot of viewers say to upgrade only if you have to because sometimes is worst, so I am kind of divided here, but anyway, I was saving this also for a new video (total of 2).
Again thank you for watching and kudos to Canada from Portugal! 👍
@@TechCornerTV I am a great believer in using the same test leads, etc when testing different equipment. Then you are only testing the equipment and not the leads. However that does mean that the leads should be of a reasonable quality though not necessarily the best.
@@madcockney Hey there, I understand what your're saying and I think you're right, BUT i decided to use the probes that comes with unit because it is what you get when you buy the unit, so, if only have 1 unit, the result I tested should be as close as you will get, bad probes give bad results, thats manufacturer problem, they should send better probes for better equipment results. That said, I do understand that to be more accurate, a set of good probes across all the test will be better. I thought of using my probes from Rigol 300Mhz, but decided not to because of what I explained before.
I have a edge fast rise signal generator now and I am thinking to do a video testing the real bandwidth of these oscilloscopes, FNIRSI out because I gave it on the oscilloscope giveway. But thanks for the input, these idea exchanges are precious and I do appreciate the time you guys spend commenting to help me improve the videos, Kudos! 😁👍
Gracias amigo, saludos desde la ciudad de México.
Hola Rafael, muchas gracias por vernos y por tu lindo comentario. ¡Un gran abrazo a México!
@@TechCornerTV Desde dónde transmites amigo, saludos.
@@rafaelhernandez2934 The previous text was google translated, I can read spanish but don't know how to write. I am in Portugal!
Did you also try another probe with the Fnirsi? The values seem pretty random to be a software problem.
Hi, sorry the late reply, trying to keep up with the comments, not easy. My FNIRSI unit was one of the firsts in the market, really first, like the first batch or something like that and was very buggy, probably with some firmware updates it will be ok. I think that was also the problem in the readings. I can't try again because it was given on a channel giveaway, so can't verify that. Thanks for watching.
Hello brother am laptop chiplevel engineer, can fnirsi work for me in all laptop mother signal testing please
Nice toys! :D
Great review!
Hi! Thank you for your comment and for watching! 👍
I was wondering what oscilloscope you recommend in 2023 thanks in advance...
Hi, depends on you budget. If we're talking about $250/250€ for accuracy in this low level entry devices, I'll go with Owon, maybe Hantek if you need something with a lot of functions like protocol decoder and function generator all in one. If we're talking over this value, we have some Rigols that are good machines and have some models in the 300€ near almost 400€, with a lot of functions also and it gives you a more stable quality of product. Over this price you have a lot of options, siglent, rigol or even higher models of Owon that are awesome units for the price.
Lower that $250, you have FNIRSI, pretty easy to use but not the top of the bunch in features or sometimes quality, but the support works very well. I know they are working on a 4 channels oscilloscope, maybe it will released this year. That's one that I would like to test to see if it improved since theirs 1014D bench oscilloscope.
You have also the Owon's portable in this price range, but that a differente product.
Bellow $100 you have only portables, Zeeweii DSO2512G was my choice. 2 channels, function generator, av output, 120mhz... can't beat this on something like $90. Hope this helped.
Thanks much for the comparison ! Is there any improvement in the latest FNIRSI software to take care of the issues ?
Hey Munbay, some were taken of but I think not all, there is still some issues with triggering and some other stuff. But in general and reading the opinions of some other users in the Whatsapp group, they're are satisfied with the oscilloscope. Thanks for watching and your comment. 👍
I was about to give a go to an Hantek, but I read so much complaints about bugs on the DSO2D10 and DSO215 and how complicated it was to make firmware / software updates with some sort of success.
So I finally went to the Owon SDS1104. Now I see it can't read code like UART. 😢
Hi, no it can't, for that you need a protocol decoder and Owon doesn't have that, but you can solve that with 6€//$7 on AliExpress with a Salae compatible logic analyser/protocol decoder. Thanks for watching
@@TechCornerTV hey, you know what? I was scammed by Banggood. The Owon SDS1104 never came and the seller doesn't want to refund me. Because I was in the middle of a project, I got a Siglent SDS802X HD in a hurry from a store in Ontario - I'm in Quebec. Excellent machine, but I still have to learn it.
I wanted o buy the hantek, but after i has see your video and because the voltage is not accurate and because there is not cursors, i do not want this now. it looked like promising but,... I have one question : did you make the autocalibration before to test it ?
Hello Guy! I will take this oportunity to thank you for your e-mail and I will take some days off to get some sun I will analyse it with more details when I get back. Regarding the video, you do have cursors, see the review of the oscilloscope video, I show them there. In the comments some users explained me that it can go to low voltages, but you can't use the "autoset", it still is a good oscilloscope for the price, but for accuracy the Owon is way better (in my opinion) and for disclaimer, the unit in the video was offered for review, but I think that it really accurate in the measures it makes. Regarding your question, yes I did. I didn't show it because I forgot and also, not in FNIRSI, but in other oscilloscopes is a process takes a bit to do, but I did it when I started to prepare the oscilloscopes to see what I will talk about, to see what was the differences that I should mentions, what to test, well the prep of the video. Thank you for watching and for your comment! 👍
Read the posting above regarding the HANTEK 2D15 low voltage settings/readings. It has to do with the way it was being set .
I changed my mind because of the answer he gave me about cursors and accuracy. And I order one. I jjust read your comments. Good explanation
@@guyfradasyl88650 AWESOME! My HANTEK 2D15 is being delivered tomorrow and I can HARDLY wait! :-)
Hello Hugo, Is there any improvements on FNIRISI 1014D since you uploaded this video? may be with new firmware from October 2021?
Hey Mike, I don't know, I gave my unit on a channel giveaway and I'm not considering to buy another to check it out... but for the users comments, I think it is a bit better. Thanks for watching. 👍
@@TechCornerTV Thanks
Hi Hugo,
Thank you so much for this awesome video.
I am a still a bit confused between all three brands. Can you please tell me that which one would you buy for long term use?
Sure, I can give you my opinion, please send me an e-mail to my mailbox, you have the address in the about page. Thank you or watching. 👍
Great video! The music with the heavy bass is rather annoying and sometimes the audio is not clear. I suspect the microphone placement. Just FYI.
Hi Claude, a lot of water passed unde the bridge since this video. I still have some music in the videos, but I lowered a lot the volume. This kind of feedback is very important and I am grateful to you for taking the time to write me. Regarding the audio, might be the mic, but those videos were recorded more or less at 3am and sometimes I am really tired, because, in this case, I already recorded the same video in Portugues, my natural language, so this is the second take of everything and my voice then to become kind of "metallic" or with some vibration. I quit the videos in Portuguese and now I only record in english and I'm trying to record in more decent hours... 😁 experience and continuos improvement! I hope 😐 Thanks for watching! 👍
@@TechCornerTV I hesitate to give any kind of negative feedback. There is plenty of that on the internet. I'm glad you received it in the spirit in which it was intended. Cheers!
found your video on the FNIRSI 1014D i am looking to buy my first scope. Am confused if I should get the FNIRSI or the Hantek DSO5102P_N or the DSO2D10 they are all about the same price point.
What is the scope model you use as reference on top. I think you called it a Rigol.
Hi! Think I answered you on FB, if not let ne know. Thanks for watching! (y)
Hi! How is it now with Hantek's firmware? Did something changed since August, 2021?
Did you've used DS02D10 in your work? Some people tells that it's processor or/and PSU can get very hot. One guy (on Ali) did wrote the comment that his device got burnt (the PSU).
I'm leaning to buy Hantek but that message wasn't "happy" or motivating to me.
Hi! They had some updates, I didn't update mine yet, I'll do a howto video a soon on the update and after the "real" bandwidth using the rise time method. In terms of usage and if it gets hot, yes it gets. As any normal oscilloscope, if you get to much trouble about it, it probably be a good idea to add a fan, you have everything in place, just missing the fan, but there are some videos here on YT showing how you can add a fan to it. Anyway, I manage to crash it not by the heat but some other issues. In terms of heat I had it working for like 5 to 6 hours without major issues, but I think that might be because I work at night when is fresher. If you work during the day on a harm country, maybe it is a bigger issue. Anyway, thanks for watching and your comment. If you decide to buy one please consider using the links on the video description, it will help a lot the channel! Cheers! 👍
Hantek 2d15 radiates armonics in front about 0.5meters and 5cm in the back (generator was off). Can not use to adjust radio.Hantek did not answer to my email.
@@lucianvaduva3827 Thanks! I've bought the other (cheaper) oscilloscope. It's not good for high frequencies (over 1MHz) but generally is good.
There is a fan option built in the Hantek. Just need to add the fan.
I don't speak English, which is the best in this comparison
Thanks
Hi Nuelmar, if my goal is accuracy, I'll go with Owon. For a more complete solution will choose Hantek. This is not what is the best, it depends on your goal. But with one of those two, you'll be ok. Thanks for watching!
Bells and whistles are nice but since an oscilloscope is a measurement tool it would seem that accuracy is paramount and so the OWON is the only one here that is actually passable.
Hi, thanks for your comment and for watching!
Watching this two years later as all these models are still available. I'e considered an older tek analogue scope or one of these cheaper chineseum scopes. I don't need super accurate, and even though I love older equipment and I know tek would be a good scope, being older it lacks a lot of features and these scopes you've reviewed would likely be good enough for me. Particularly the hantek and owon's.
Hi, take a look on this recent video th-cam.com/video/s0X_4tjBWqc/w-d-xo.html . I made it last month, it's a bargain from the price and it his really good. Thanks for watching.
@@TechCornerTV I''ll check it over.
Can the FNIRSI measure the phase angle between two waveforms through the math function?
I think it can, using the cursors... I don't have mine anymore to check it. I've sent mine to the giveaway winner, sorry.
@@TechCornerTV all good i ordered one so I'll guess I'll find out in a couple of weeks
@@50Hz Tell me how it worked out. .😊
@@TechCornerTV no problem. Probably make a video about it. Doesnt seem to be much on TH-cam
Apparently there are these FNIRSI scopes in the wild, this model, from about that era when you might have bought it, where the frontend is stuck in AC coupling mode, regardless of what the digital part thinks it's at and trying to set it to, because they soldered in the optocoupler that drives the relay rotated by 180 degrees, the wrong way around! Do you think yours has this fault, and it is the one you gave away? By all reason the relay should click when you change coupling mode.
Hey Siana, I do think I received a messed up unit, but it's not that problem of the inverted octocouplers, FNIRSI contacted me about this issue to check my unit, we did some tests and it was ok. But, other than that, I really had some issues with it... I gave my unit on a giveaway not knowing of this issues, well I bought the oscilloscope to review and offer, so I didn't know then. But after all the viewers comments I saw, it not hard to figure it out that something might be wrong. Thanks for watching. 👍
@@TechCornerTV Thanks for helping me with my scope purchase decision, whenever it may come, probably really soon. At best, even regardless of spotty manufacturing and firmware issues, it doesn't seem to reach the true analogue bandwidth of the other scopes in this price category, and if their older devices are anything to go by, probably undersamples and aliases quite a bit more than others - while the price is attractive, the other two only come up 20% more expensive and the companies have a history of actual measurement device experience. I don't really doubt that FNIRSI will get there eventually, the way things go, but probably not with this model, and also likely not quite at this price point, ultimately there is an inherent cost to getting things done properly.
I would really appreciate if such a device could be a community project with open firmware and at least hardware schematics - it would make me lean heavily towards it even with hardware drawbacks. Miniware is such a company but the specs are outright insufficient.
@@SianaGearz You're right, it is a pitty that the miniware doesn't have a bit more juice in it, because it will be a killer in the small oscilloscope market. I really loved the experience of using it, you have premium all over it... 😁 just a few UI improvements and a bit more bw and sample rate and it will a no brainer. But again, the market positioning of opening the souce code to anyone is something awesome and they deserve all our support.
@@SianaGearz Just to complement my answer regarding the two other oscilloscopes of this review, for the price range, Owon seems to be a bit more accurate but you'll be ok with any of them.
Thank you for your fantastic reviews.
I am interested in the FNIRSI 1014D which seems to give me all the functions I need.
But there's one function I am not sure about and I definitely need, External trigger.
I have seen in some specs that state "External trigger voltage 0~40 V"
Please does anyone know how to apply external trigger and if there are selection options i.e. +/- slope, trigger voltage level.
This is a deal breaker for me deciding which scope to purchase.
Chris
Hi, I don't think that 1014D has external trigger, don't have mine anymore, but I don't think so, you get a very basic set of functions. Thanks for watching!
Thank you so much for your reply, sorry that you haven't got yours anymore to give me a definite reply on Ext trig or not.
Has anyone else got a 1014D to confirm if it has External trigger, where it is input, and does it have selections i.e +/- slope, trigger point.
Will be very grateful for any replies.
Chris
What's the best one for an idiot who's wants to learn more about testing components? Someone who doesn't know enough to be able to answer the inevitable "depends what you're looking for" response to which one the best one is. I don't plan on using it for product development just learn about IC, motor driving, induction converters, MOSFETs etc. Which one would I do best with.
Hi! If you're a total begginer and want it more for learning everything you can with it, the Hantek is the one that will give you more options for a marginal price increase. You'll get the oscilloscope, arbitrary function generator, the protocol decoder and it will allow you to connect to the PC. Owon, will give you more accurate results, but has less options delivered. I will stay only between one of those two options. I hope, I answered you question. Thanks for watching and your comment. 👍
Thanks for clarifying what you get more or less for the money you spend.
Any advice for a sub 100€ / 120$ USB oscilloscop that can do ac and dc ?
I have purchased the hantek 6022BL and when it arrived I suddenly realised that it has NO AC COUPLING while the 15 € more expensive one OWON had it on board beyond more bandwith which also a lot claimed fake on the Hantek with its 20 Mhz promised and real world measurements just showed about 1 Mhz instead of 20 Mhz promised.
That being said I like the hscope android software, how reliable it connects to an old android 6 tablet with 8 inch screen and how well it runs - for over 3 hours the cheap 100€ full metal build ifive mini tablet is able to power itself and the hantek oscilloscope but in the end could not provide 230V ac coupling needed for checking solar power inverters and their purity sine wave output.
Hope you have a recommendation for such black box style oscilloscope that could work out for me.
I also had seen a diy one HS402 wifi developed by the maker of the hscope app Martin Loreen but I am new and do not wanna start with smd soldering of tiny parts to get an oscilloscope that I might need to get the soldering diy wifi osci right.
Thx.
Hi! Look, I've heard a lot of positive things about this oscilloscope ( geni.us/vwIRol ) from Owon, its the HDS242 but **I've not tested yet**, so I'm just pointing out what I heard, I took a look in the description and it has "nput Coupling: DC, AC, and Ground", so might be something you're looking for. Regarding a black box oscilloscope I've only tested the Loto OSC02X and I liked a lot, the only thing is that isn't a 100Mhz oscilloscope, but it worked very well and they provide some kind of open source socket for expansion, I have a review on it. Thanks for watching! 👍
никогда не пользуюсь кнопкой авто. может я перестраховываюсь, но что будет делать авто, если ожидаемый сигнал это редкие импульсы в 100 вольт с пьедесталом в ноль вольт?
Обычно я знаю что я ожидаю увидеть и заранее выставляю нужный диапазон, а если не знаю начинаю со ста вольт на клетку. ЧЯДН?
Hi, yes it is a way of using it, who knows, maybe the proper way, but if you have an auto button, it should work properly 😁 thanks for watching!
Which one of the three is the best?
Hi, the one I will trust more is the Owon. The best in terms of what you get for what you pay is the Hantek. Thanks for watching!
Greetings 🙏
Please recommend which is better for a beginner. Hantek DSO2D15 or Fnirsi 1014D.
Hi Sandeeo, if it was me I'll go with the SDS1102 or if you have a bit more to invest, the 2C10/15 will be a nive option, it gives a bit more features like the protocol decoder and the function generator. Hope it helped, thanks for watching and if you decide to buy, use can always help the channel and use the links in the description! 😁
@@TechCornerTV Thanks 😊 Did you mean Hantek 2C10/15 ? I thought Hantek 2D10/15 is better then 2C10/15. Best regards.
@@sonybansi Yes, I did want to say 2D10/15.... the one with the AFG, sorry for the confusion
Wrong here maybe. I expect you push the x1 button on the oscilloscope is to tell the oscilloscope you have a direct x1 probe. Unless the probe has a switch or you use the direct alligator clips, you can not get a correct reading.
Hey Gary, you're not wrong but, some oscilloscopes detect automaticly the attenuation but these do not. I messed with that configuration somewhere in the video? I might this was the second video to be recorded in the night (the first one was the portuguese version) and after 2AM there is a bigger chance to make errors... if I screwed up sorry for that! Thanks for watching! 👍
Gee, that OWON is a microphone!
Thanks for watching! 👍
thank you very much
so now whats good oscillioscope
hantek or owoon or finrsi
Hey Dell, Owon is less complete but for my personal opinion, its more accurate than the Hantek. Hantek is more complete and fairly accurate, but more expensive (both scopes with 2 channels). Bottom line, it depends om your wallet and needs, for example I don't have the need for a function generator, so Owon accuracy is more important to me. There isn't a right answer here, they're both oscilloscopes (for the price) and you'll be ok with any of them. I know that's not a "choose one from three" answer, but neither is reality 😁 I'll be ok with any of them, my personal choice will be Owon, but thats me, not a recomendation. Thanks for watching and your comment. 👍
Nice video
Thanks! Glad you liked... 😁 thank you for watching and your nice comment 👍
Please think about the adjustments of the probes. As higher the frequency, the more influence has a proper adjustment. When you would exchange the both probes, I guess the more weak channel for higher frequencies would also change. Like someone before mentioned, I would prefer to see high frequencies rectagular signals for a better overview.
But in principle, I'm fine with your videos 👍.
Hi Michael, sorry the late reply, trying to keep up with the comments, not easy. Thank you for the tips and for you comment, really appreciated. I will try to show more the square wave on the videos, thanks for watching!
is there any way to slow down,, that fast update speed of hantek,,,, as for overheating... maybe deill few holes... and keep small slow fan nearby,,huh
Hi Kay, no need for drill. There is a video here in the comments of a guy in russia that solved that with two heatsinks in the ADC. But you also have the mount for a fan, just no fan supplied. Thanks for watching! 👍
Hantek 2d15 radiates harmonics in front for about 0.5 m and 5 cm in back. Can not use to adjust IF radio. New firmaware did not help. Anyway can not know what improvements the new firmware supose to correct because Hantek did not say. This is a sign that they are not profi. Any new firmware should have a record about what problem will solve.
Hi Lucian, I'm so in tune with you. I don't get it, it's so easy and not that much work to do the extra mile and give that information, don't understand why they do it always my the least effort possible. Thanks for watching.
Is there some problems, from device to device
Hi, yes there is always some issues with entry level oscilloscopes like this, they're cheaper because use cheaper components, so something gotta give, but in general you can work well with them. Thanks for watching!
hello every body, few days ago the Hanteck dso2D10 arrives in my house. I tried the SINGLE mode. Everything works with Edge RISING, but nothing work with Edge FALLING (or Either). someone have found the same as me ??
@Guy Fradasyl I returned from holidays today and I didn't have the time to test it, family comes first 😁 as soon I get some free time I will test it and get back to you on this.
Hi Guy. Didi you solve this problem ? what about your experience regarding problems measuring low voltages ?
Just use manual for low voltage and it's very accurate
What's different between the owon sds1102 and owon sds1104
Hello! 2 more channel, SDS1104 has 3 channels and SDS1102 has 2. Thanks for watching!
The FNIRSI scope does not meet its basic specs. Instead of 1G samples/sec and 100MHz, it's 200M samples/sec and about 30MHz. See the learnelectronics review for more details.
Hi, thanks for watching and your comment.
ماهو أفضل جهاز فيهم؟
Hi, answered this on another comment. Thanks for watching!
Excellent video❤ awesome🇧🇷😉👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Thank you for your kind comment & for watching!
The Owon scopes are always a little ahead of the OTwo.
Hi Mike, I agree with you. It was a bit slower in some cases, but much more precise/accurate in the measurements. Even with the last hantek firmware updates, owon still has more accurate readings. FNIRSI is not even in the same league. Thanks for watching! 👍
If one of my scopes were as inaccurate as the FNIRSI or Hantek, I wouldn't attempt to calibrate it...I'd troubleshoot it, and find and replace the defective component!
Hey Clyde, yes I understand what you're saying. But most of the times it is a firmware problem and for that, the only way is the manufacturer release a new firmware. The other point is, the idea of the video is what would you get as it is delivered from the factory, to show what comes from the factory and compare them all. Thanks for watching! 👍
@@TechCornerTV These Chinese companies are using their customers for :field testing"! In the past, no respectable company, like Tek or H-P (or even Heathkit or Eico), would have released a product for sale, with so many bugs.
good,, but not detail how much error when oscilloscope measure
Hi, I understand, I'll try to make it better in next comparations, but this video took so much time to get done... specially because at the time I would record in english and portuguese (my natural language). But I quit that, now only have the english channel. Don't have the time to mantain both. Thanks for watching!
Excelente explicação! Parabéns!
Olá Luiz, obrigado por assistires e pelo teu comentário! 👍
Any discrepqncy between channels REQUIRE an interchange of the PROBES.
This helps in identifying IF the probe is suspect ! !
Hi, you probably right, it's not near a perfect a analysis but I tried to cover all the three devices in fairly equal way. But there's always room for improvement, thanks for your tip, I really appreciate it! Thanks for watching and your comment 👍
Que vergonha pra hantek de um osciloscópio desse, pra mim o Owen deu de 10 no hantek, o que acha do dso5102p e o dso5202p?
Olá Marcelo, tenho ouvido bons comentários do DSO5*02 da Hantek, mas nunca testei... são tantos equipamentos e tão caros, que se os fabricantes não ajudarem é dificil experimentar todos. Essa série é mais antiga e é mais parecida com os produtos Owon, não traz tantas soluções como descodificador de protocolos, gerador de sinais, etc, mas por outro lado é muito mais estável e fiável. São equipamentos feitos noutra época em que não existiam estes osciloscópios de entrada de gama mais em conta. Obrigado por assistires! 👍
@@TechCornerTV O que adianta tanto recurso e cheio de bug kkk
thank you very much i like ur channel thank you
Hey Dell, So nice of you! Thanks for watching and your support. 👍
I think the voltage scale is set too high to do an accurate reading on the hantek
Hey Rick! I went back to the workbench after reading your comment and connected again the 2D10 to the power supply to measure the voltage again. I was able to get a 110mV to a 100mV signal, that is well way more near than I had during the video recording and for a 10mV signal, I had a reading of 25mV. I thing this oscilloscope heats a lot or have some issue like that (as I told in the video it freezed a couple of times), because now I just power it up and was reading these values, even with autoset, and when recording I have it powered on for several hours and the results where all over the place. That sait, I do believe I might have done some error while recording, I don't exclude that I might have done something wrong while recording... but anyway, thank you for watching and for your comment/suggestion. 👍
@@TechCornerTV This makes a poor review that you didn't edit this error out. Watching the DC voltage tests showed lots of glitches on the waveforms which should be a clue that your setup is not correct.
@@Dont_Gnaw_on_the_Kitty_1 Hey there! Ok, I accept that, I'm sorry if something went wrong. This is a learning process for me and I hope that the next videos will be better. Thanks anyway for watching and for the comment, it was a constructive critique and those are always welcome. Kudos. 👍
@@TechCornerTV Maybe re-edit? The finarsi scope is plain faulty or incorrectly setup as well. This is a disservice that you continue to use this scope in this review. There is plenty of good editing software around and its great to get reviews of these scopes, just that it needs to be accurate.
No, the FNIRSI has problems, that I don't have any doubts, unfortunatelly. Just join the FNIRSI whatsapp group to understand that there is a lot of users complaining the same issue. In youtube is not possible to re-edit and re-upload a video. Next time it will be better.
Who is best oscilloscope chip price🙏
Please just reply I want buy1014
What is 1014D please 🙏
Hello! For me the best option is Owon SDS1102/1104 or Hantek DSO2D10. FNIRSI 1014D is a bit buggy right now, the support is working on a new firmware, but isn't clear if it will solve the problems or when it will be released. So, OWON is very stable and Hantek is very complete and very good unit also. This is my opinion. Hope it helps. Thanks for watching. 👍
If you do, please one of the links in the description, you will give the channel some support! Thank you.
Funny how so many people gave the Fnirsi 1014d fantastic reviews when it came out, yet anyone can see from seeing it in real life its rubbish and feels like a toy.
Hi, I had one of the first units that came out, I have the first video on it, but I think that my unit wasn't ok, it had some problem. Even so, that will not take credit of your comment 😁 Thanks for watching!
An inaccurate oscilloscope can really make you feel mad 🤬 for owning one.
Seems like there is a 25mv offset on the hantek
Hey Jon, thanks for watching and your comment!
Что лучше 5102p или 2d15 ??
Hi, never tested the 5102P.... can't tell. Thanks for watching! 👍
now i regret ordering that cheapest crap on ali =D accuracy is the thing you need the most when troubleshooting anything
Hi Dominik, you can always sell your test equipment on OLX or something like that and upgrade. But if it works for what you do, you should be ok, if it doesn't, as I told you, you can always sell and buy another. Test equipment don't lose that much value on resell. Thanks for watching!!
And what is accuracy of this oscilloscope
The most accurate is Owon, Hantek has some issues but it works well.
Fnirsi oscilloscopes are junk! I'm purchasing a real oscilloscope and putting my Finirsi 1014d back in the box! I lost my money! I'm thinking about taking it to electronics recycling.😠 On another note yes, Hantek oscilloscopes do tend to freeze up but, I'm considering purchasing one anyway.
Hi Brian, thanks for sharing. In hantek if you use it for long hours, you can install a fan, they even have the holder for it, don't know why didn't spend a few cents more to add that. The latest firmwares are also more accurate, so it is a nice option. Thanks for watching!
Seems like the hantek and Fnrisi are both suffering the same issue. made in china syndrome. but hope they can fix there issues.
Hi, I get what you mean! Thanks for watching 😁
Quanto que o owon mede pico a pico em x10?
Olá Marcelo, no datasheet da Owon SDS1104 o que menciona é que a voltagem de entrada máxima é de "400V (DC+AC, PK - PK)". Por isso, podemos concluir que com um aponta de prova de 10X podemos medir até 400V. Obrigado por assistires! 👍
@@TechCornerTV então pra medir 220v em corrente alternada é necessário uma ponteira de x100?