Definitely a winner on price/performance and I like the uncluttered front. But one thing I don't like about wall-wart powered scopes is the loss of line triggering. That's always been the fastest way to see if the wiggles on the screen are line related.
Neat little machine. Might be a fun mod to hide a power bank inside and use a simple current steering circuit to connect it. In any case, a pretty respectable scope for students and folks just getting started on electronics.
Yes very great service recommending cheap Chinese products to Americans. Really helps the US economy👍 The 50mV sensitivity is great to. I’ve always hated measuring ripple on power supply’s. What a great service….
wow... If I needed another hobby oscilloscope this would be my next pick. 🥰 Gee, I wonder if they are working on a $200 4 channel desktop O-scope? 😎 Thank you.
Hopefully it has much better performance at low voltages and high frequencies. Have the "Tablet" but it is limited for low level signals. It integrates multiple sweeps to acquire a high frequency, so not useful for single events at high sweep speeds or high speed data. This is in relation to the tablet. Hopefully this scope has much better performance. Love the tablet within it's limitations. High amplitude signals under 20 MHZ work fine.
FEEDBACK 1: Please FNIRSI, stop hiding the base-line noise floor. Every time the signal get below 32 mVpp it is swapped by a fake flat line. Please FNIRSI, change this in a firmware update. FEEDBACK 2: I hope that in a future firmware update the vertical Sensitivity could be reduced from 50mV/div (the current base-line noise floor appears to be low enough).
Feedback 1 - wow, is that what those "interruptions" are? Thanks for sharing this. I thought my scope (1013D) had failed. 1014D has the same issue? I was thinking of buying it (I want USB powered oscilloscope), but if it has the same problem, no way (that was one of the reasons why I was thinking about buying a new oscilloscope - for some stuff I can't use 1013D because of that flat lining).
I bought one 2 days ago, even before to see the reviews. Thank a lot, you are rigth, for this price it's just amazing, not only for beginners, dare to say. I found it for less than 140$! You can't beat this price for such a housing, display, functions, probably and quality.
Only issue with that scope, they are so lightweight, you have to tie a brick to the backside so it doesn't move when you push a button. 😂😂 Thanks for the review Paul, have a great weekend.
I reload my own ammunition, so i would just hot-glue a hunk of lead to the underside! On my digital microscope counterweight, i just added some lead bullets....easy peasy and works great!
I have the tablet version which has a built-in battery, totally isolated! It has a USB C port for charging and you can even upgrade the internal battery if you need more than 4 hours run time even if you are blind!
@@PeterMilanovski I have been very impressed by this company's products. They make the dc-dc converters etc, and i have their mini-100Mhz oscilloscope too. Great tools!
@@englishrupe01 they are great as long as you don't expect to much from it. I watched a review of the tablet oscilloscope by EEVBLOG and he looked at it as if it was a $1000 scope! But I think that he missed the point of it! It's a budget scope which a lot of people can get their foot in the door with! Especially if you plan to be working with audio frequency! My first scope was a small pocket thing which was the cheapest that I could afford at the time, it's a beautiful device in it's solid aluminium case and it worked well for audio work but the only problem that I found with it was it's 2" screen! The next scope I got was an older 20Mz CRT type which was also really good but it didn't display any information on the screen apart from the waveform! I eventually got the tablet oscilloscope and I'm really happy with it, the FFT function is a bonus! This new desktop scope/function generator seems to be also good! I thought that it looked a little bit on the sterile side of things but I got used to it very quickly! It doesn't have to many different colours all over the place, even though I don't have it, by the end of the video I felt like I have been using it for some time as I could easily remember where what is to make an adjustment! I think that is an important part of any test equipment! I feel that it's something that all new equipment has lost from how they used to be made, when you needed to make an adjustment, you found the control in what seemed like it's natural position! The old designer's probably put in a lot more effort than we realize, the new manufacturers seem to have lost that! Everything seems to be buried in a menu somewhere! The days of just reaching out to make an adjustment without looking but just by muscle memory is becoming a thing of the past! I remember when you could have a car stereo which had a lot of features and every single one of those features could be accessed from the face of the unit and you could literally operate it without looking! That's not the case any more either... I worry about the world that my grandchildren are going to grow up in! My son has a VCR, cassette deck, DAT machine, turntable, vinyl records and so on! He even likes the music that I grew up with when I was his age! If this world is supposed to be getting better, why are the kids who get exposure to the old days not wanting to take part in it? There's nothing better than being able to hold your music in your hands! Why do my MP3's have to feel like a phone? Yeah I don't know, but what I do know is that I have enough equipment to cover the next 3 generations of my family lol. A time with come when Vintage equipment will be litterely impossible to get ahold of! There won't be enough for everyone and those who are selling are going to be asking for rediculas prices! Some of the stuff that I have was actually considered junk once! I know, because someone actually threw it out, but today it's already worth something, just imagine seeing a Sony ES DAT machine with it's wood panel side's sitting on the curbside! Even a broken one is selling for $300 on eBay! I wonder who would such a thing? I wonder if they will realise what they gave away somewhere some time in the near future? Hang on to what you have! You never know, either your children will thank you for it or if they don't appreciate what you are going to leave behind, it could turn out to be a retirement fund!
You can also plug your household appliances into the socket with two stripped wires, right? If the electrical appliance is cheap enough, is that connection acceptable? (sorry, strange comparison, but you know what i mean)
Looks like a greater 'Starter' scope with a handy extra gen function. A chance to find out if you really need a scope with out paying big bucks. I have found sometimes the Sine wave functions goes higher than the other functions - is this the same ?
Hopefully it'll meet my modest hobby needs. When I last used scopes at work it was Tektronix CRT based scopes. I like knobs and buttons. Yes, I'm old.... So far it looks equivalent of a scope that would have cost $3000 in 1975 dollars.
I love my tablet version of this! And this one looks interesting too! I thought that it looked a little sterile at the beginning but by the end of the video, I got used to it and it now feels very uncluttered! I like it. Does it say how to compensate the probes in the manual? Or are you just supposed to use the square wave of the built-in generator somehow? And does the generator do sweep functions? Also, when you open it up, can you have a look and see if there's a place to connect a battery? They might have either used the circuit from the tablet version or maybe just included the battery circuit but not the battery! While being able to run off a USB charger, from what I have seen on Diode Gone Wild, they very rarely are isolated from mains AC... It's better to have the battery built-in than carry around a USB power bank! I purchased the tablet version after seeing your review and now I'm looking into this!
It sure has some compelling features, but also seems to miss some more advanced features. Moving the PSU out of the scope is something other manufacturers should consider too. But why they chose to make the [GEN] key BLUE when the BNC for the generator is marked GREEN??? And not put it together with the other keys that belong to the generator...
Sounds like its their first non-portable device, and its possible it was a feature added at the tail-end as a no/low-cost function? There are nits to pick, however its a $150 low-end device. As he said, if you want/need advanced functions you should be look at units that are 3-5x the price.
I'm on the edge of my seat, wondering whether this scope is truly 1G samples/sec and 100MHz. Your sequel video can't happen soon enough! :-) Suggested clickbait text: "More like 30Mhz - 0/2 FNIRSI :("
That is an industry breaking product, at least for the hobbiest market. At this price, feature set,and portability, its really going to make getting a scope a much easier wish to fulfill for a lot of people. Of course, build quality and longevity are unknowns, so who knows? Wonder if these are going to go out of stock shortly and then be unavailable during the chip shortage. We'll probably see once you do the teardown. I've been delaying getting the Hantek et al, however this looks simple and cheap enough for my needs. Thanks for the great video!
The signal wave form of red probe connector is yellow why on the oscilloscope the connecter marked with red color,I think they just made something never checked for quality and the frequency is 90mhz not 100mhz in oscilloscopes if designed for 100mhz you can go to about 120mhz still working, but this is only 90mhz oscilloscope and does not work above 90mhz, about durability I am not sure yet.
Teacher, Good Night. I have that oscilloscope and I want to troubleshoot a failure of a mac not charging. I see that that oscilloscope has no I2C decoder. How else do I see the connector activity without the I2C decoder with the FNIRSI? Thanks.
This video just convinced me to order this thing. I have some signals I need to figure out for a turbo vgt actuator, and this should help nicely compared to my old Kikusui 5041 :)
I have tested several of these and the BW never reaches 100 Mhz, and each unit had a different frequency range. Even so I bought one to troubleshoot my real scope , a TEK 453, 50 Mhz scope.
I saw in specs it states has a protection “intelligent anti burning feature” that what they literally called it. Claims if you forgot to put probe in 10x while measuring high voltage won’t let the magic smoke out? I wonder how true that is seeing how they lied on the other specs? The one thing is the fact it has no internal power supply so is isolated in that regard. Both channels are sharing the same ground plane so not fully isolated like a fluke Scopemeter.
@@thetechgenie7374 Thanks for that… I wondered the same thing, just hoping that they wouldn’t set themselves up for failure so simply unless they were ‘sure’. Fingers crossed… I’ll let you know when I try it out, though I will not be ‘accidentally’ not switching probe attenuation :-) For my use case, (comparing an input with its output, or subsequent power amp stages) in a HT (400-800V), the equipment ground will (must!!!) be common anyway, so the common ground is no downside?
@@contemporiser I am not seeing that. I followed the link in the description and the price is about US$175. I also searched the site and all of the listings show roughly the same price. Are you using a different URL?
@@WatchesTrainsAndRockets Dude, supple and demand. A lot of online is tracked algorithmically. When there is a spike in ordering of a product, the price is raised as long as there is demand.
Just bought this but the reading is double what's on my multimeter, and the firmware update does not work and the website link is broke, lots of people are reporting wrong readings with this scope, have you had any issues as I am about to return mine to amazon
@@learnelectronics Thanks a lot! I'm also taking USB ones and handhelds into account for low budget start while waiting for a price drop on some Siglent or Rigol gear. Researching the hole day so far and no results yet...
OK, so wait several weeks and get it when the demand has dropped and pricing is back to normal. Or, will others review it and it becomes a viral sensation and demand/price stays high as long as they have chips to keep it in stock?
Hmm? that's kickass!! I just might give that 1 a try! I can't makeup my mind! rigol or some1? gota get 1 before the new year 2022!! good luck neighbor!
Lots of features, but wth didn't they include wave smoothing?? That may be one of the worst looking square wave signals generated by a signal generator that I've ever seen. Also, why didn't you put a higher freq signal through it so we could see how well (or not so well) the signal appears at or near 100 mHz? The probe only works on signals from 6 mHz to 100 mHz? What do use on signals < 6 mHz?
@@walter.... Thanks. From what I've read online, the bandwidth is supposedly only good to ~1/5 of the lowest signal, so a 100 mHz bandwidth is really only good for signals of 20 mHz or less. Do you know if that is true?
@@ab_ab_c I think you're confusing bandwidth and sampling speed. Notice that of the true 1G samples/sec scopes, the highest bandwidth they advertise is 200MHz. Actually (and I admit I've just recently learned this), bandwidth is not directly related to sampling speed, as the bandwidth is the 3dB point of the low pass filter on the front end of the scope. Although this filter is totally different circuitry than the A/D converter(s) that determines the sampling speed, in practice, scope makers design them at your 1/5 (or 1/10 or 1/20) ratio. My guess is that they do this because sampling too high of a bandwidth at too low a sampling speed would result in nonsense being displayed and maybe the A/D just wouldn't work.
@@ajlenze8 My understanding is that a high sampling rate just provides more data points for a signal so that you can zoom in on it to get better details of the signal. I agree with you that too slow of a sample rate taken on too high of a frequency will likely result in poor resolution when zooming in to look more closely at a high freq signal. I would also add that I am aware that the Nyquist sampling rate must be two times the highest frequency of the input signal. (e.g. if the input signal has a high-frequency component of 1 kHz, then the sampler must sample at least 2 kHz, or the signal might alias.). And while that makes sense, I have read somewhere online that I can't find at the moment that stated something like this "choose a sample rate that 5 times the bandwidth of the oscilloscope to give you a high-enough sampling rate to capture the details of your signal, including its frequency of oscillation and the rise times of your waveforms. You need a sample rate that will provide enough detail to see any unexpected glitches or anomalies."
@@ab_ab_c It's true that if you want to see the exact waveform of a non-sinusoidal signal you need a higher bandwidth than the frequency of the signal, in order to get the higher harmonics too. On the other hand, if you have a sinusoidal signal, or just want to see that you have a signal and don't need to see the exact waveform and amplitude, you'll be able to use a 100 MHz oscilloscope up to 200 MHz or even more.
So Hantek or FNIRSI? I ask as I just cooked my second hand Tektronix. Will try to get it fixed but I'm not super confident, and miss having a bench top scope already. I have the little handheld FNIRSI and it's great, but not quite up to every job.
In my experience, a lot of cheap stuff powered off of 5v USB is just not built to any kind of safety standard. Not to mention you are kind of relying on the USB power to not be coming from a badly implemented switching power supply. Which for a couple bucks per unit on most of those, I wouldn't trust. Alo, you have to trust that the bargain basement scope has some good power isolation. I would not recommend this scope to anyone who is going to play with high voltages or currents. Really a Rigol 1054z is not much more. It's kind of misleading to say it is either Keysight or R&S vs cheap danger scope.
No, I checked mine and the little (better than Mr. Wong said!) printed manual that comes with every unit, and the pdf is on the F website under Support. Does not say anything on GEN amplitude setting. Looks like 1.48V P-P in some review waveform displays. Not sure on Output Z but you can measure that the same EE Tech way as always, select a lower freq like 100KHz and then take a linear pot (full size, not a trimpot) and simply crank down the resistance until a hi Z meter shows 1/2 the open-circuit voltage! This is a much nicer instrument than Mr. Kerry Wong presents it. I LOVED the practical and positive tone of Mr. LEARNELECTRONICS, AND saved BOTH of his 1014D Presentations. BTW I do have a REAL 150MHz TEK 2445 scope, but it needs a full recap with the parts I ordered per a nice repair article - the German WIMA plastic line caps shorted and it SMOKED but is repairable. 73's, Hilary W4HDL
The part I have trouble understanding is... They chose to cheap out on the calibrator? Really? That would cost what, in Chinesium? 1, maybe two Renminbe?
Since you've reviewed the FNIRSI 1014D, OWON SDS1102 & Hantek DSO2C10. Which do you think among them would be the best choice if priced the same? Thanks!
@@joop2295 sticker wise. Everyone cheeps out. It’s just about making something serviceable (workable) for these non-professional pieces of equipment. The scope with built in generator is a functionality bought within the $900 price point by Keysight, but this is still too high for students and idiot savants.
One area that they could have cut corners on is the markup. Siglent and Rigol get the amazon shaft of 40% which is how they move most of their product. They also have a 50% price for universities. By selling direct for now this scope is cheep, but since they have made a workable product we will probably see it appear on Amazon shortly causing this price point to disappear. If it lands at $300 it will still be an upgrade to what was available when I got into electronics.
@@learnelectronics I just noticed my original question sounds a bit flippant. I must apologise for that, that was not my intention. I really appreciate you volunteering your time to create such superb content for schmucks like me. I'm really looking forward to your video on Wednesday, thank you very much indeed!
It doesn’t as not a 100mhz scope. It only a 30mhz scope. You will have trigger issues and even weird DC offset trying to get anywhere near the 100mhz bandwidth as ADC’s are not as advertised.
Thanx for the video. Someone needs to do a in-depth comparison with other cheap scopes. I wonder who could have like 50 oscilloscopes.... Don't say that name, please :)
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Definitely a winner on price/performance and I like the uncluttered front. But one thing I don't like about wall-wart powered scopes is the loss of line triggering. That's always been the fastest way to see if the wiggles on the screen are line related.
Depends on what you're doing
Some people do actually like having isolation from mains ground
Neat little machine. Might be a fun mod to hide a power bank inside and use a simple current steering circuit to connect it. In any case, a pretty respectable scope for students and folks just getting started on electronics.
Not a bad looking scope. I really like the idea of having a function generator built in to the oscilloscope.
is it just one signal for tuning in the probes?? oooohh! i watched the video back, how did i miss that, it's a bloody awesome thing to have. NICE!
I just ordered one along with a 0-60V 0-5A PSU. Can't wait to receive them!
Thanks for the review and showing the USB power supply at the end making it portable!!
vertical sensitivity is limited to 50 mV minimum not 5!! I think their tablets also have this limitation. might be important
Good scope, esp. for the price. Happy Memorial Day and thank you sir for your service to this great country.
Yes very great service recommending cheap Chinese products to Americans. Really helps the US economy👍 The 50mV sensitivity is great to. I’ve always hated measuring ripple on power supply’s.
What a great service….
wow... If I needed another hobby oscilloscope this would be my next pick. 🥰 Gee, I wonder if they are working on a $200 4 channel desktop O-scope? 😎 Thank you.
Thank you very much for your sharing , This scope used 5 VDC for supply is very good .
Hopefully it has much better performance at low voltages and high frequencies. Have the "Tablet" but it is limited for low level signals. It integrates multiple sweeps to acquire a high frequency, so not useful for single events at high sweep speeds or high speed data. This is in relation to the tablet. Hopefully this scope has much better performance. Love the tablet within it's limitations. High amplitude signals under 20 MHZ work fine.
Specs show scope has a built in DDS sig generator, this might be usable as probe calibrate function. But where is external trigger input?
FEEDBACK 1: Please FNIRSI, stop hiding the base-line noise floor. Every time the signal get below 32 mVpp it is swapped by a fake flat line. Please FNIRSI, change this in a firmware update.
FEEDBACK 2: I hope that in a future firmware update the vertical Sensitivity could be reduced from 50mV/div (the current base-line noise floor appears to be low enough).
Feedback 1 - wow, is that what those "interruptions" are? Thanks for sharing this. I thought my scope (1013D) had failed. 1014D has the same issue? I was thinking of buying it (I want USB powered oscilloscope), but if it has the same problem, no way (that was one of the reasons why I was thinking about buying a new oscilloscope - for some stuff I can't use 1013D because of that flat lining).
I bought one 2 days ago, even before to see the reviews. Thank a lot, you are rigth, for this price it's just amazing, not only for beginners, dare to say. I found it for less than 140$! You can't beat this price for such a housing, display, functions, probably and quality.
Only issue with that scope, they are so lightweight, you have to tie a brick to the backside so it doesn't move when you push a button. 😂😂
Thanks for the review Paul, have a great weekend.
Take it easy.
Double-sided tape on each foot/corner, solved.
I reload my own ammunition, so i would just hot-glue a hunk of lead to the underside! On my digital microscope counterweight, i just added some lead bullets....easy peasy and works great!
Is it just me, or did they want to make the brand look like Rigol? The font and yellow background looks very much like a Rigol oscilloscope.
The Rigol uses a Serif font; FNIRSI uses Sans Serif.
You can also say it looks like the Fluke logo.
You know the Chinese. Make it look like another unit, BUT, don’t make it look TOO much like the other unit.
Wow! Nice scope at such a great price! Good video Paul!!
I have the tablet version which has a built-in battery, totally isolated! It has a USB C port for charging and you can even upgrade the internal battery if you need more than 4 hours run time even if you are blind!
@@PeterMilanovski I have been very impressed by this company's products. They make the dc-dc converters etc, and i have their mini-100Mhz oscilloscope too. Great tools!
@@englishrupe01 they are great as long as you don't expect to much from it. I watched a review of the tablet oscilloscope by EEVBLOG and he looked at it as if it was a $1000 scope! But I think that he missed the point of it! It's a budget scope which a lot of people can get their foot in the door with! Especially if you plan to be working with audio frequency!
My first scope was a small pocket thing which was the cheapest that I could afford at the time, it's a beautiful device in it's solid aluminium case and it worked well for audio work but the only problem that I found with it was it's 2" screen!
The next scope I got was an older 20Mz CRT type which was also really good but it didn't display any information on the screen apart from the waveform! I eventually got the tablet oscilloscope and I'm really happy with it, the FFT function is a bonus!
This new desktop scope/function generator seems to be also good! I thought that it looked a little bit on the sterile side of things but I got used to it very quickly! It doesn't have to many different colours all over the place, even though I don't have it, by the end of the video I felt like I have been using it for some time as I could easily remember where what is to make an adjustment! I think that is an important part of any test equipment! I feel that it's something that all new equipment has lost from how they used to be made, when you needed to make an adjustment, you found the control in what seemed like it's natural position! The old designer's probably put in a lot more effort than we realize, the new manufacturers seem to have lost that! Everything seems to be buried in a menu somewhere! The days of just reaching out to make an adjustment without looking but just by muscle memory is becoming a thing of the past!
I remember when you could have a car stereo which had a lot of features and every single one of those features could be accessed from the face of the unit and you could literally operate it without looking! That's not the case any more either... I worry about the world that my grandchildren are going to grow up in! My son has a VCR, cassette deck, DAT machine, turntable, vinyl records and so on! He even likes the music that I grew up with when I was his age!
If this world is supposed to be getting better, why are the kids who get exposure to the old days not wanting to take part in it? There's nothing better than being able to hold your music in your hands! Why do my MP3's have to feel like a phone? Yeah I don't know, but what I do know is that I have enough equipment to cover the next 3 generations of my family lol. A time with come when Vintage equipment will be litterely impossible to get ahold of! There won't be enough for everyone and those who are selling are going to be asking for rediculas prices! Some of the stuff that I have was actually considered junk once! I know, because someone actually threw it out, but today it's already worth something, just imagine seeing a Sony ES DAT machine with it's wood panel side's sitting on the curbside! Even a broken one is selling for $300 on eBay! I wonder who would such a thing? I wonder if they will realise what they gave away somewhere some time in the near future?
Hang on to what you have! You never know, either your children will thank you for it or if they don't appreciate what you are going to leave behind, it could turn out to be a retirement fund!
Nice unit. Definitely worth taking a look at.
You can adjust the 10X probe using the built in signal generator. Just stick the probe tip into the output of the generator.
You can also plug your household appliances into the socket with two stripped wires, right? If the electrical appliance is cheap enough, is that connection acceptable? (sorry, strange comparison, but you know what i mean)
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Ahhhh 🤔
That’s what I thought. Select a square wave and adjust probe.
I have absolutely no need for it, but it would be so cool using one.
Looks like a greater 'Starter' scope with a handy extra gen function. A chance to find out if you really need a scope with out paying big bucks. I have found sometimes the Sine wave functions goes higher than the other functions - is this the same ?
Yes....looks like the sine wave goes up to 10Mhz with the others pegged at 2Mhz. Pretty cool!
Hopefully it'll meet my modest hobby needs. When I last used scopes at work it was Tektronix CRT based scopes. I like knobs and buttons. Yes, I'm old.... So far it looks equivalent of a scope that would have cost $3000 in 1975 dollars.
Interesting one for low budget home lab. Having seen this review, I am thinking to buy one after long awaited.
Great review, thank you.
Thanks for this video, I have two questions for , is there math functions like + and - , and is it possible to invert signal by this oscilloscope
yes
Thanks from France for the review, 2022 : cost 180€ here.
You got a new subscriber
just bought one today. Thanks for input
Great video, my unit arrived this morning. Just one thing. Don’t hide that USN Sticker. R/ MM1(SW) USN Ret.
It's not hidden STS2
I love my tablet version of this! And this one looks interesting too!
I thought that it looked a little sterile at the beginning but by the end of the video, I got used to it and it now feels very uncluttered! I like it.
Does it say how to compensate the probes in the manual? Or are you just supposed to use the square wave of the built-in generator somehow?
And does the generator do sweep functions?
Also, when you open it up, can you have a look and see if there's a place to connect a battery? They might have either used the circuit from the tablet version or maybe just included the battery circuit but not the battery!
While being able to run off a USB charger, from what I have seen on Diode Gone Wild, they very rarely are isolated from mains AC... It's better to have the battery built-in than carry around a USB power bank!
I purchased the tablet version after seeing your review and now I'm looking into this!
I still have one question, does „save wafe“ mean i can save part of a digital signal for instance?
It sure has some compelling features, but also seems to miss some more advanced features.
Moving the PSU out of the scope is something other manufacturers should consider too.
But why they chose to make the [GEN] key BLUE when the BNC for the generator is marked GREEN???
And not put it together with the other keys that belong to the generator...
Sounds like its their first non-portable device, and its possible it was a feature added at the tail-end as a no/low-cost function? There are nits to pick, however its a $150 low-end device. As he said, if you want/need advanced functions you should be look at units that are 3-5x the price.
I'm on the edge of my seat, wondering whether this scope is truly 1G samples/sec and 100MHz. Your sequel video can't happen soon enough! :-) Suggested clickbait text: "More like 30Mhz - 0/2 FNIRSI :("
Real 200Msa/s. Waveform capture rate very slow. This is the most failed oscilloscope in my life. The toy for students.
@@DanielDaniel-gh1uh If that's the truth, you're breaking news! How do you know this?
That is an industry breaking product, at least for the hobbiest market. At this price, feature set,and portability, its really going to make getting a scope a much easier wish to fulfill for a lot of people.
Of course, build quality and longevity are unknowns, so who knows?
Wonder if these are going to go out of stock shortly and then be unavailable during the chip shortage. We'll probably see once you do the teardown. I've been delaying getting the Hantek et al, however this looks simple and cheap enough for my needs. Thanks for the great video!
So industry braking it is the only scope with a whopping 50mV sensitivity of x1👍
Reasonably decent scope for their first bench scope
The rigol ds1054z need around 50W to work, and this only 5 or 10? Strange.
The signal wave form of red probe connector is yellow why on the oscilloscope the connecter marked with red color,I think they just made something never checked for quality and the frequency is 90mhz not 100mhz in oscilloscopes if designed for 100mhz you can go to about 120mhz still working, but this is only 90mhz oscilloscope and does not work above 90mhz, about durability I am not sure yet.
You don't have tje calibration part because that osciloscope its also a signal generator, wich makes it even better.
Wow I haven't looked at/for Oscilloscope for years. I remember when a used 10Mhz or new 25Mhz was $150 to $225.
Is there some problems, from device to device
Teacher, Good Night. I have that oscilloscope and I want to troubleshoot a failure of a mac not charging. I see that that oscilloscope has no I2C decoder. How else do I see the connector activity without the I2C decoder with the FNIRSI? Thanks.
This video just convinced me to order this thing. I have some signals I need to figure out for a turbo vgt actuator, and this should help nicely compared to my old Kikusui 5041 :)
I have one of these and I can't figure out how to adjust the horizontal scaling can you make a video on that?
Thanks mate, you told me what i wanted to know. cool..
Have you checked the REAL BANDWIDTH?
It's only about 30MHz as reported by all other reviews.
I have tested several of these and the BW never reaches 100 Mhz, and each unit had a different frequency range. Even so I bought one to troubleshoot my real scope , a TEK 453, 50 Mhz scope.
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I'm sure that the frequency response of the Tektronix 50MHz scope is MUCH BETTER than of these 120MHz chinese scopes.
Any math for both channel inputs ?
Thanks you my friend for unboxing
Looks great. Can't wait for full, detailed test. Wonder if it's really 100Mhz :)
I'm going to buy one, for valve amp testing. 400V safe input, sine wave generator at audio frequencies, mains isolation... what's not to love!?
I saw in specs it states has a protection “intelligent anti burning feature” that what they literally called it. Claims if you forgot to put probe in 10x while measuring high voltage won’t let the magic smoke out? I wonder how true that is seeing how they lied on the other specs? The one thing is the fact it has no internal power supply so is isolated in that regard. Both channels are sharing the same ground plane so not fully isolated like a fluke Scopemeter.
@@thetechgenie7374 Thanks for that… I wondered the same thing, just hoping that they wouldn’t set themselves up for failure so simply unless they were ‘sure’. Fingers crossed… I’ll let you know when I try it out, though I will not be ‘accidentally’ not switching probe attenuation :-)
For my use case, (comparing an input with its output, or subsequent power amp stages) in a HT (400-800V), the equipment ground will (must!!!) be common anyway, so the common ground is no downside?
Thank you. I have it working on the ryobi battery inverter. Am i limited to 600 volts on the times 10 probe working on a heathkit hw101?
Awesome scope.i was wondering if you have a video on how to properly use an oscilloscope....since I don't know how😁👍thanks.
I have an oscilloscope Playlist.
@@learnelectronics cool I'm going to watch them thanks.your service to your country continues from military to teaching! Thanks again 😁👍
I am not finding it for $150. Amazon lists it at $270. How would you evaluate it at that price point?
on ali they are 150, just add taxes on top of it, unless they send it from your country
@@contemporiser I am not seeing that. I followed the link in the description and the price is about US$175. I also searched the site and all of the listings show roughly the same price. Are you using a different URL?
@@WatchesTrainsAndRockets Dude, supple and demand. A lot of online is tracked algorithmically. When there is a spike in ordering of a product, the price is raised as long as there is demand.
We purchased but blank screen only coming
How did you wire the 100Mgz crystal? Thanks for your videos!
Just bought this but the reading is double what's on my multimeter, and the firmware update does not work and the website link is broke, lots of people are reporting wrong readings with this scope, have you had any issues as I am about to return mine to amazon
Return it
@@learnelectronics Wow man is it that bad? the voltage peak-to-peak measurement is my main gripe!
Well done - 2 years after I will buy one....I did not get how to adjust the output level of the signal generator - any idea before I order?
i understand it says in the instructions not to use other ground but that dont matter if your using a battery bank?
Not really
Thanks for the good video you done. For the power bank who many mAh i need for 4 hours of work with this oscilloscope?
I want one will be on the list for next year I also want a 4 Chanel owon I run an old hp atm
Hy Paul! As always: great Video! Thanks! How would you compare it to the Hantek DSO2D10?
Software wise, they are about the same. Performance wise, the Hantek wins hands down. Construction wise, Hantek wins again. Economy wise, FNIRSI wins.
@@learnelectronics Thanks a lot! I'm also taking USB ones and handhelds into account for low budget start while waiting for a price drop on some Siglent or Rigol gear. Researching the hole day so far and no results yet...
How do you change the language on it's menu? all my menu's in Chinese
Going on my to buy list
Labloot SDS1102 is an Owon SDS1102 rebranded, cost is Us$170 dollars.
Is better scope in every posible way.
Can it do xy mode? It says so but I couldn't figure it out
Please review the FNIRSI DPOX180H.
OK, so wait several weeks and get it when the demand has dropped and pricing is back to normal. Or, will others review it and it becomes a viral sensation and demand/price stays high as long as they have chips to keep it in stock?
The price will drop again.
It doesn't appear to have external trigger?
Kinda cool for the price, thank you
Around 1 amp at 5v, input, sweet, Techtronics eat me.
Great scope!
Man, I gotta get a scope.
Do like that it uses 5 volts for power.
Would this be a good scope for working on guitar amps? Currently AliExpress has it for $112 bucks
For sure.
Hmm? that's kickass!! I just might give that 1 a try! I can't makeup my mind! rigol or some1? gota get 1 before the new year 2022!! good luck neighbor!
I do not see a probe tester ???
Lots of features, but wth didn't they include wave smoothing?? That may be one of the worst looking square wave signals generated by a signal generator that I've ever seen.
Also, why didn't you put a higher freq signal through it so we could see how well (or not so well) the signal appears at or near 100 mHz?
The probe only works on signals from 6 mHz to 100 mHz? What do use on signals < 6 mHz?
Switchable 1x / 10x probes work only up to 6 MHz in 1x mode. The 100 MHz bandwidth is for the 10x mode.
@@walter.... Thanks. From what I've read online, the bandwidth is supposedly only good to ~1/5 of the lowest signal, so a 100 mHz bandwidth is really only good for signals of 20 mHz or less.
Do you know if that is true?
@@ab_ab_c I think you're confusing bandwidth and sampling speed. Notice that of the true 1G samples/sec scopes, the highest bandwidth they advertise is 200MHz. Actually (and I admit I've just recently learned this), bandwidth is not directly related to sampling speed, as the bandwidth is the 3dB point of the low pass filter on the front end of the scope. Although this filter is totally different circuitry than the A/D converter(s) that determines the sampling speed, in practice, scope makers design them at your 1/5 (or 1/10 or 1/20) ratio. My guess is that they do this because sampling too high of a bandwidth at too low a sampling speed would result in nonsense being displayed and maybe the A/D just wouldn't work.
@@ajlenze8 My understanding is that a high sampling rate just provides more data points for a signal so that you can zoom in on it to get better details of the signal.
I agree with you that too slow of a sample rate taken on too high of a frequency will likely result in poor resolution when zooming in to look more closely at a high freq signal.
I would also add that I am aware that the Nyquist sampling rate must be two times the highest frequency of the input signal. (e.g. if the input signal has a high-frequency component of 1 kHz, then the sampler must sample at least 2 kHz, or the signal might alias.). And while that makes sense, I have read somewhere online that I can't find at the moment that stated something like this "choose a sample rate that 5 times the bandwidth of the oscilloscope to give you a high-enough sampling rate to capture the details of your signal, including its frequency of oscillation and the rise times of your waveforms. You need a sample rate that will provide enough detail to see any unexpected glitches or anomalies."
@@ab_ab_c It's true that if you want to see the exact waveform of a non-sinusoidal signal you need a higher bandwidth than the frequency of the signal, in order to get the higher harmonics too.
On the other hand, if you have a sinusoidal signal, or just want to see that you have a signal and don't need to see the exact waveform and amplitude, you'll be able to use a 100 MHz oscilloscope up to 200 MHz or even more.
So Hantek or FNIRSI? I ask as I just cooked my second hand Tektronix. Will try to get it fixed but I'm not super confident, and miss having a bench top scope already. I have the little handheld FNIRSI and it's great, but not quite up to every job.
Hantek
Got one in my ebay cart. Just waiting for your review
Very nice! Can the scope go to 5mV/div sensitivity? Thanks
No it goes down to 50mV/div, not suitable for troubleshooting power supplies and etc.
In my experience, a lot of cheap stuff powered off of 5v USB is just not built to any kind of safety standard.
Not to mention you are kind of relying on the USB power to not be coming from a badly implemented switching power supply. Which for a couple bucks per unit on most of those, I wouldn't trust.
Alo, you have to trust that the bargain basement scope has some good power isolation.
I would not recommend this scope to anyone who is going to play with high voltages or currents.
Really a Rigol 1054z is not much more.
It's kind of misleading to say it is either Keysight or R&S vs cheap danger scope.
Hi, nice little Scope..but whats about the specs? Realy 100MHz? See you in the next video.
Thx
Watchout it is 30MHz bandwidth not as specified
Does it do FFT or any other functions that you'd want to have if doing Audio testing?
Yes it does.
I do t like the weight and that when u push a button it moves
Is it possible to regulate the outputvoltage of the signalgen?
That is a must imho.
No, I checked mine and the little (better than Mr. Wong said!) printed manual that comes with every unit, and the pdf is on the F website under Support. Does not say anything on GEN amplitude setting. Looks like 1.48V P-P in some review waveform displays. Not sure on Output Z but you can measure that the same EE Tech way as always, select a lower freq like 100KHz and then take a linear pot (full size, not a trimpot) and simply crank down the resistance until a hi Z meter shows 1/2 the open-circuit voltage! This is a much nicer instrument than Mr. Kerry Wong presents it. I LOVED the practical and positive tone of Mr. LEARNELECTRONICS, AND saved BOTH of his 1014D Presentations. BTW I do have a REAL 150MHz TEK 2445 scope, but it needs a full recap with the parts I ordered per a nice repair article - the German WIMA plastic line caps shorted and it SMOKED but is repairable. 73's, Hilary W4HDL
what are its power requirements 5VDC at how many ma ?
The part I have trouble understanding is... They chose to cheap out on the calibrator? Really? That would cost what, in Chinesium? 1, maybe two Renminbe?
I know, right?
Yeah, but its one great weakness is that the buttons don’t light up like some of its rivals do…..
Since you've reviewed the FNIRSI 1014D, OWON SDS1102 & Hantek DSO2C10. Which do you think among them would be the best choice if priced the same?
Thanks!
DO NOT buy the FNIRSI, it is fake crap, nowhere near the specs it claims!
@@stevenbliss989 Owon vs Hantek. Which would you recommend?
Can this replace an old millivolt meter for testing high frequency (300 kHz) AC millivolts ? Does it got a VRMS reading ?
Probably not
@@learnelectronics Yes it can
can I Measure 220 V AC Frequency with this, is there any max volt Limit. Thanks
600V max. You better be 100% sure you know how your outlet is wired. If you hook up the scope backwards it will blow up.
Incredible product
@@joop2295 sticker wise. Everyone cheeps out. It’s just about making something serviceable (workable) for these non-professional pieces of equipment. The scope with built in generator is a functionality bought within the $900 price point by Keysight, but this is still too high for students and idiot savants.
3 years ago I would have recommended an oscilloscope and signal generator with a combined price of $500, so to push that down to $175.
One area that they could have cut corners on is the markup. Siglent and Rigol get the amazon shaft of 40% which is how they move most of their product. They also have a 50% price for universities. By selling direct for now this scope is cheep, but since they have made a workable product we will probably see it appear on Amazon shortly causing this price point to disappear. If it lands at $300 it will still be an upgrade to what was available when I got into electronics.
Yeah. The 10MHz was disappointing
Ok, so what are the other ways to calibrate the probes please?
Wednesday
@@learnelectronics I just noticed my original question sounds a bit flippant. I must apologise for that, that was not my intention. I really appreciate you volunteering your time to create such superb content for schmucks like me. I'm really looking forward to your video on Wednesday, thank you very much indeed!
Fantastic value for us hobbists! Thanks Paul!
Finally they make an oscilloscope/sig gen that a retired old fart can afford!
does it have any filtering ability, esp low pass filters?
nope
the specs are not as adve
How this scope work around 100MHz ? Thank you.
It doesn’t as not a 100mhz scope. It only a 30mhz scope. You will have trigger issues and even weird DC offset trying to get anywhere near the 100mhz bandwidth as ADC’s are not as advertised.
$175 now
Its an OK scope, but not a killer. I wont get rid of my Tek 453. I do like the light weight portability and the crappy signal generator. 11:49
Can it do any serial decoding?
No decoding
Thanx for the video. Someone needs to do a in-depth comparison with other cheap scopes. I wonder who could have like 50 oscilloscopes.... Don't say that name, please :)
That was a surprise....