Since there’s so much controversy, and question about where He was for those three days, I’m not going to worry about it. I’ll ask Him when I see Him one day.
Why "one day"? Why not ask Him NOW? There is nothing wrong with asking Jesus (God) questions. I ask Him all the time to give me understanding; ESPECIALLY on "controversial" things. Because, there are few things more liberating than experiencing the TRUTH; that is SO far removed from what MOST believe.
@@DixieDee Well you could ask but it doesn’t mean God will tell you. Romans 15:4 (KJV) For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope. God wants us to be satisfied with what he has given us.
"Where was Jesus for the three days between His death and resurrection?" I fought that for 80 yrs of my 91 yr of Christianity. But when I became 75; everything changed in my life. That was because, I finally got on my knees and seriously with tears; asking Jesus, to give me "Wisdom", "Understanding" and "Heavenly Truth". Also I said, "I am not trying to be right. I just want to know WHAT is right". And within days, I began to see things I had NEVER seen. Yet they were always there. And I heard things I had never heard. Yet they were always there. And the best: I began to see scriptures that I had never seen. Yet they were always there and I read them! Praise Jesus. Thus, I have an incredibly understanding of my bible, than ever. And I believe the Holy Spirit's leading me to believe that: Jesus went to HELL for 3 days*. But the time was Forever. And it had to be; to pay for EVERY Sin (except for one) that would ever be. And that is why Jesus cried out on the cross to the Father. And for the first time, I realized WHY Jesus would pray, to what HE really was. For Jesus is the name of the true God Almighty forever. Amen! And I now feel that my prayers EVERY day to Jesus and through the days; that the Holy Spirit is detouring me around lies and causing me to SEE, HEAR and READ truthfully. That I had never knew them. But they were always there. Believe it or not. End of story and I rest me case... ...In any case kind Sir, Please Pray OFTEN and Praise Jesus OFTEN; for He is the ONLY true "God Almighty"; there will ever have been. And may Jesus bless you and yours always. AMEN! * Remember this...Matthew 19:26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
How could he have gone to hell forever if he was with his apostles three days later, and is now seated at the right hand of the father? I don’t understand what your theology is coming from. It plainly states that the dead have no consciousness. This idea of Casper the friendly ghost going off to some magic land is from Greek paganism. No where does it say that in the Bible.
@@Bona19646 Well let's see in...Matthew 19:26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible. And having it. to BE in the bible, please read this in...John 21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen. IE: the Golden Great Bridge is real. But it isn't in the bible. Also, the US of America is real; but isn't in the bible. Etc, etc and ETC! So... End of story, and I rest me case... Now I have had said, what I believe; and you have said what you believe. Sadly, they are different (VERY common). Thus, since I never debate or argue (because I believe Jesus doesn't want us to do it); I shall walk away in a Christian way; and never comment to this video... Unless: IF, the're others that want to reply. Praise Jesus' Holy Name.
@@steveslenderman Hmmm...Before you were born (for I am 92 yrs old now); I was taught by my "Jew" Step-Dad teacher; about Jewish Culture! And many, untold other of the things Jewish do! Thank you for your reply! Now, Jesus is "Iesus" in Greek and "Yeshua" in Hebrew. And that is after Gods name was "YHWH"* (in writing) and "Yahweh" (in speaking). This was, because Hebrew did not write Vowels, in their Culture. And... *The reason that God changed His name; most of the Jews had Polluted and Prostituted the Covenant; by the time 70 AD came! Because most of His so-called "chosen"; were committing Abominable Sins! So, God made a New "Faith" Covenant Culture; rather than a "613 Commandments" Covenant Culture. Where ALL should say this... ...Brethren, Please Pray OFTEN and Praise Jesus OFTEN; for He is the ONLY true "God Almighty"; there will ever have been. And may Jesus bless you and yours always. AMEN!
Where does the Bible clearly state that the dead have no consciousness? Paul said "to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord." Seems to me that's pretty clearly stating that we do have a consciousness. Also, When Jesus said to the man on the cross, "Today, you will be with me in Paradise." I fully believe that when we die, we retain our soul and spirit, and that we are very much who we were, only lacking a flesh and blood body, and we are with Jesus. Once Jesus sets up his kingdom on earth, then we will have glorified bodies--bodies like what Jesus had before his ascension.
Great video! I enjoy exploring all the areas of the Scripture that most Christians say "oh it doesn't matter". For me it really brings the Bible to life.
What a powerful affirmation of faith! In every situation, we can find solace in the knowledge that God is by our side. Let's face the day ahead with confidence and gratitude, trusting in His divine plan. Amen. 🌟🌈
Luke 23:42, “Then he said: “Jesus, remember me when you get into your Kingdom.” And he said to him: “Truly I tell you today, you will be with me in Paradise.”
@kac0404 If the comma is in the right place, Jesus is a liar. Since there are no commas in Greek, some idiot ENGLISH, scribe put the comma in the wrong place. Do I need to cite EVERY passage, in which he said he would be DEAD? I say to you TODAY, comma you SHALL be with me in paradise, is how it should have been printed in English versions. There are at least 9 PASSAGES, in which he and the apostles described him getting KILLED, and DEAD, for 3 days and nights. If you can't show us that from the Bible YOU HAVE BEEN LIED TO, AND BELIEVE THE LIE. Not the Bible, because anyone serious about this subject should know it, bless your mortal heart. Think about it. If he wasn't dead, he lied, which means Christianity is bogus. The basic tenant of Christianity is resurrection of the DEAD. HE was dead in his tomb for 3 days and nights, as scripture says. Any other scripture IMPLYING something else, is easily explained. I will NEVER be surprised by Christianity that doesn't know basics, especially Sunday Christianity.
@kac0404 Look at the first comment. If he transcribed it correctly, it is correct, which means, I've never seen a correct rendering of the passage in any English versions. So what version I s he quoting? Most say, I say to you COMMA, today you shall be with me in paradise. He just wrote , I say to you today COMMA, you will be with me, which is CORRECT.
@kac0404 I'm calling anyone who believes Jesus was NOT dead 3 day and nights, a liar. It is written at least 9 passages, he would be dead, not alive in any way.
Well that still leaves paradise on the table, and the tomb account isn't what Paul was addressing. Jesus did in fact ascend to heaven but it wasn't before He resurrected. That actually eliminates a lot of cult heresies that teach Jesus went to heaven and the thief didn't.
His body was in the tomb. His spirit was in paradise, also known as the purgatory or Abraham's bosom. He went there to preach deliverance to the captives and empty paradise. He also took the keys of death and Hell away from Satan. If anyone here does not know Jesus as their Lord and savior, Resurrection Sunday is a great time to come to know him. Please pray this prayer with me: "Lord Jesus; I believe that you died for me on the cross for my sins, and you rose again giving us all resurrection life forever. Forgive me for my sins and come into my heart and make me a new creation, and I will serve you all my days. In your name :Amen. John 03:16-17. God is Love . 1John 04:08
@Robert Stephenson Using references from a book filled with false history, contrived characters, biblical claims of events that occurred in other times, failed prophecies, impossible physics and ignorances of the men who wrote it hardly constitutes a reliable reference.
@robertstephenson6806bona said dead and asleep--not unconscious. I disagree with the soul sleep perspective, but it's worth you looking up. Purgatory and Abraham's bosom are very different things, though. Abraham's bosom was/is a temporary paradise. Purgatory is a place of penance, suffering, and cleansing because when we die we're still too ugly from sin to be in heaven and have to be clean before we can enter. Purgatory is a dogma with several pieces of doctrine inside it--it doesn't merely mean a holding place. The amount of time one spends there is proportional to the amount of sun and types of sim committed: a good person could spend 10 years in purgatory, which is almost a saintly short period of time, and bad people reasonably spend a couple thousand years in purgatory. On the other hand, Abraham's bosom either ended when Jesus completed His sacrifice OR ends on final judgement day. Abraham's bosom also isn't a literal place: it's a description of the concept of paradise. Abraham's bosom is a picture of the Roman custom (which the Jews adopted) of reclining onto the person next to you during meals. The same happens in The Lord's Supper when Peter reclined onto Christ; Peter was in His bosom. The story which gives us the term is used to emphasize that not every Jew is a member of the covenant; the rich man, a Jew, would not be with Abraham even though he's of the family line. Abraham and the poor man are either together in paradise, a temporary place, or in heaven, but Abraham's bosom is his literal bosom in that story--not an ethereal location. Your original comment was lovely
Thank you. Love your Teaching because you always back-up your Message with Biblical Scripture. To know Jesus, is to know his word. The Bible is the Mind of Christ.
@@derekardito2032 Hello Friend ! The Bible has Much to say about EVERYTHING Needful…. TRUTH in world of Lies,,, FREEDOM in a world of bondage ,,, REALITY instead of Fantasy,,, LOVE instead of Hate,,,, the list goes on and on !! Peace and Joy to you Friend 👋☀️
When the Son of man comes with his his angels he will sit ON THE THRONE OF HIS GLORY (as King of his kingdom) THEN he will say to those on his right ENTER THE KINGDOM PREPARED FOR YOU!" The penitent thief asked to be remembered WHEN YOU COME INTO YOUR KINGDOM. Paradise will be on the new earth (where the tree of life will be) Rev. 21, 22. And the throne of the Father and the Lamb will be there!
Matthew 12:40 "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." Ephesians 4:9-10 "Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things."
Friends, the subject of the state of the dead is critical or you'll be deceived by teachings of the devil. In order to correctly understand this issue you have to go back to the beginning, in Genesis, in the garden of Eden. God said, ' you shall surely die ' and the devil said ' you shall not surely die, you'll be like God knowing good and evil '. Plenty of verses make it plain that when you die you know not a thing. Just look it up. Job chapter 14 is a very important chapter on the state of the dead. Job 19:25 Job affirms his belief in the Resurrection. In 1 Thess 4 it's very clear that when Christ shall come the believers who are dead are resurrected first and together with the living believers meet the Lord in the air. At the same time! There're a few scatterings of people who are said to be in heaven, for example when Christ rose from the dead and Moses, transfiguration and Jude. Moses appeared as a representative of the dead believers who would be saved as a result of Jesus' sacrifice and Elijah represented those that would be alive when he comes. The reason you have this foolish teaching that Jesus went to heaven straight away is deception by the devil as in the beginning! That's the same reason you have psychics and mediums. These are instruments of the devil my friends.
@@stonemuk If soul sleep is true, can you please explain the following: 1 Samuel 28 - In which Samuels spirit/ghost comes up from the earth and speaks with Saul. How is Samuel able to come up from the earth and talk with Saul if soul sleep is true? Luke 16:19-31 - Jesus tells a story about two people (the rich man and Lazarus) that died and after they were dead, they were both concious and aware, the rich man was tormented in flames and Lazarus was comforted with Abraham, they see each other and communicate... I know some say this is simply a parable, but the thing with parables is; Jesus doesn't give names, but here in this story he does. Philippians 1:21&23 - Paul says that for him to die is 'gain', and he goes on to say that he has a desire to depart and to be with Christ. So to Paul, dying is gaining something, suggesting that departing from the body is to be with Christ. If soul sleep is true, then when you die you are gaining nothing and you will not depart from your body and be with Christ. 2 Corinthians 5:8 - "We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.". How can you be absent from your body and be present with the Lord is soul sleep is true? Revelation 6:9-11 - The souls of those who have died for Christ are under the alter in heaven asking when they will be avenged, they are told to rest for a little longer and are given white robes. These souls of the dead appear to be concious and aware in heaven. It is true that the dead know nothing, certainly not their bodies, and also it would seem their soul/spirit is unaware of what is happening on the earth after they have died.
@@gr3ywolf144 If you want to understand any subject you must go to the first place it is mentioned and follow up from there. The Scriptures which came later cannot contradict that which is already established in Genesis. KJV Genesis 2:7 7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. KJV Genesis 3:19 19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. KJV John 5:28-29 28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. KJV Psalms 146:1-4 1 Praise ye the LORD. Praise the LORD, O my soul. 2 While I live will I praise the LORD: I will sing praises unto my God while I have any being. 3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help. 4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish. KJV Ecclesiastes 3:18-21 18 I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts. 19 For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity. 20 All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again. 21 Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth? What is clear is that man was formed from the dust of the earth. He only became a living soul/being after God breathed the breath of life into his nostrils. God does not say to Adam that he's dust and breath, simply dust thou art! Solomon in Ecclesiastes is emphatic that there's no difference between man and beast, they all go back to dust where they came from. He's clear also that the same thing happens to their ' spirits'. Man's spirit is no different from a cow's. Unless you are suggesting that a cow's spirit also goes to heaven, which would contradict the Scriptures! Jesus himself said that the hour is coming when they that are in the graves would hear his voice and come to life meaning that they cannot be alive in any shape or form except for the few examples already mentioned, Moses and the resurrected saints at the Lord's own Resurrection! About Samuel you do not seriously think that was the real Samuel 😳. If you do, I suggest you stop trying to teach anyone until you are properly equipped with understanding the basics! KJV Psalms 146:1-4 1 Praise ye the LORD. Praise the LORD, O my soul. 2 While I live will I praise the LORD: I will sing praises unto my God while I have any being. 3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help. 4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish. Samuel's thoughts perished the very day he died! You'll remember the serpent/devil telling Eve she would not surely die? He's working through the fallen angels to perpetuate that lie. That's the reason God gave a penalty of death to anyone who consulted mediums and anyone with a familiar spirit. Also this would contradict your earlier assertion that the spirit goes to God yet Samuel comes from the earth. KJV 1 Samuel 28:13 13 And the king said unto her, Be not afraid: for what sawest thou? And the woman said unto Saul, I saw gods ascending out of the earth. Those who set themselves against the government of God have entered into an alliance with the archapostate, and he will exercise his power and cunning to captivate the senses and mislead the understanding. He will cause everything to appear in a false light. {PP 635}
@@stonemuk Thanks for the reply and the time it must have taken to type all of that.👍 There is a common theme that I am seeing with the verses you posted; they all seem to be taking about what happens to the body when you die. I agree that the body returns to the earth, returns to dust and as such all thoughts cease. "Jesus himself said that the hour is coming when they that are in the graves would hear his voice and come to life" - I have no issue with that, everyone will be resurrected, speaking of their bodies. "...meaning that they cannot be alive in any shape or form" - Mark 12:26-27 - "And as touching the dead, that they rise: have ye not read in the book of Moses, how in the bush God spake unto him, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? 27 He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the LIVING: ye therefore do greatly err." - Jesus says that God is not the God of the dead, but of the living, even though at the time of Moses, all three, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob had been long buried. Jesus seems to be suggesting that they are alive in some way. Also, you gave no explanation to any of the verses I quoted. The only one you mentioned was about Samuel, suggesting that this was not Samuel, even though the Bible clearly records that this was in fact Samuel that Saul was speaking to, im just reading what it says, and it says that both Saul and Samuel spoke to each other. The text does not say that this wasn't Samuel, it says that it is Samuel speaking. Even the medium that Saul went to see seemed surprised. "Samuel's thoughts perished the very day he died! " - Yes, in terms of his body. Still I feel you have to explain Samuel speaking with Saul, and without any snarky comments such as "you do not seriously think that was the real Samuel 😳". Can you also explain 2 Corinthians 12:2-4 - " I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. 3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) 4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter." Paul appears to be suggesting that there is some part that can be out of the body and go somewhere else. How can you be out of the body and be somewhere else if the body is all there is? As for the devil telling Eve she would not surely die; That was indeed a lie, there was a two fold death, one, physical death as in the body, and two a spiritual death, as in being seperated from God because of sin. "Those who set themselves against the government of God have entered into an alliance with the archapostate, and he will exercise his power and cunning to captivate the senses and mislead the understanding. He will cause everything to appear in a false light. {PP 635}" - What is that? PP 635? Are you relying on some authority other than the Bible?
But when Jesus arose He told Mary I have not yet ascended to my father,. And Jesus told us about the rich ruler Gods people where in the bosom of Abraham.Luke 16:23,
@monocuco818 If he went to paradise, he lied about being dead, at least 9 TIMES, bless your heart. He was dead in his tomb, or a liar, take your pick. 9 TIMES, at least. Dead for 3 days and nights, NOT PARADISE. What he told the thief has the COMMA, in the wrong place, in English versions.
@@eltonron1558 Not necessarily. Both are true. Death is the separation of body from Spirit. So He, as spirit, went to paradise where the righteous spirits wait. His body remained in the tomb, exactly like you said.
It’s helpful when we talk about things in terms of what we think might be going on, bc no one knows 100% for sure. Thanks for doing that! And we all have good minds to discern.
For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Matthew 12:40 ESV
My understanding is that the Jews believed Sheol was inside the earth and has two compartments. Paradise is the compartment where Abraham and all the believers in God’s promise resided.
Yeah. Jesus knew He was going to be sent to Hell ... for 3 days ... which is how long it takes to destroy the soul. God must punish anybody who sins ... with death (body & soul). This is why the body decays & dies ... & ... the Soul is sent to Hell. Hell was created by God to punish fall Angels who are powerful spirits ... with freewill ... and are to serve & help the Children of God. Fallen Angels can not be saved, and they know God created them, and that if they sin they will be punished forever. God only created Adam & Eve ... with freewill & the ability to procreate Mankind ... and clearly warned them that if they sin .... they( an their descendants ) will die (body & soul) .... because the Mind of Man ( with freewill & nature) is the body & soul. The nature of Man ... is the body ... and it is clearly corrupted by a common ancestor because every single human being will freely think & do something the is clearly evil or against God. God deliberately made His Children ... with puny bodies & souls .... and able to procreate ... so that they can be saved ... and ... God can become a Father. Adam is the Father of the Children of Man. Jesus is the Father of the Children of God. And Jesus is the first Child of God ... as the Son of God permanently has a body & soul. The Angels ... who can not be saved if they sin ... were created to be the servants & helpers of God's Children .. and knew that if they will be punished forever if they sin. This is why Satan .. hates the Human Race ... as he is one of the most powerful Angels and did not want be a servant & help of God's children. And here is not time ... in heaven or Hell. God is on a 7 000 year Salvation plan ... with Jesus returning in the year 1000 to rule for 1000 years ... and ... all the death & living Believers at the Second Coming ... will join Jesus in Heaven forever. But Jesus has just returned to rule for 1000 years. How so? When you die .... you go straight to Judgement day in the year 7 000 or those alive on Earth ... to either join Jesus for ever or be sent to Hell to die. God has to punish a sinner ... with death (body & soul). The body will die in the Universe. The soul will die in Hell. God sent His only begotten Son ... to be the sin sacrifice ... that will satisfy God's just nature & His lover for His (sinful) creation.
@@abelincoln8885 . When was hell created , on the 8th day? In the beginning god created the heavens and the earth, rested on the 7th day and then created hell. Hell is a real place found only in the mind of Christians . Or religious people. No where else, it’s man that creates conditions of hell right here on earth.
Not “Three days later”, rather “on the third day”. Crucified on Friday, Raised to Freeing the dead on Friday & Saturday, Appearing to apolsles on Saturday morning. Once raised in the Glory of God there is no night or day no time needed for rest. All the raised are immortal and will not die again. Thus we cannot put a time frame on what Jesus did after death on the cross.
@@titaniumspecial4207 - You are correct, it was not more than two nights between crucifixion and return to the temporal. The rising was immediate on the day of death. However there was work to be done that we would hear of but we cannot see.
Matthew 12:40 clearly refutes your position. In Jesus' own words he says the Son of Man shall be in the heart of the earth for three days and three nights.
Mt 12:40 - Just as Jonah was 3 days and 3 nights in the belly of the fish, so will the Son of Man be for 3 days and 3 nights in the heart of the earth. (which is where hades is) Acts 2:31 - he (David), foreseeing this, spoke concerning the resurrection of the Christ, that He was not left in Hades, nor did His flesh see corruption. (It is implied He was there. And not left there but was brought out - resurrection) Rom 10:6-7 - But the righteousness of faith speaks in this way, Do not say in your heart, Who will ascend into heaven? (That is, in order to bring Christ down from above) or, Who will descend into the abyss? (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead) Paul clearly knew, Christ was in the abyss - like the verse plainly shows. Rev 1:17-18 - Do not be afraid, I am the First and the Last and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. And I have the keys of Death and of Hades John 20:17 - Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father These verses clearly reveal that Christ went to Hades (where everyone went when they died) when He died. (the apostles creed also knew correctly biblically - "was crucified, dead and buried, He descended into Hades. On the third day He rose again from the dead") This makes it clear Paradise was not up there YET, but paradise (His presence) was still in Hades in the heart of the earth and only afterwards, paradise was in the Father's presence "in heaven". This is such a bad, wrong answer to this huge question. Going into 1 verse not bring aware of where Paradise is and coming to a conclusion (and then misinterpreting other passages to fit the wrong conclusion) when there are a host of passages that clearly teach that Christ was in Hades between His death and resurrection..
Yeah Got Questions has some decent resources and answers, but when they start pulling different “versions” of the Bible to interpret a verse or view it’s forcing you’re own preset conclusion. I don’t believe that Christ was in hell for punishment myself, I believe when he said “it is finished.” He meant just that but hades held paradise and hell at this time, he went there for multiple reasons. I do not completely understand what all he did there but I know this answer is gibberish. A point made from God’s word shouldn’t need two, three, or even more versions of the Bible pulled to have an answer. Everything we need should be able to come from one version of the Bible. God hasn’t left us in darkness since Christ’s ascension, he didn’t leave us several volumes for 2,000 years to sift between to get answers.
@@backyardboosters9128 I totally hold the same view as well. Luke 16 from vs 19 Jesus teaches that Hades contained paradise and hell separated by a gulf. In John 5:28 Jesus said He was going to proclaim a message to those held there.
Ngl, I looked at this very differently. I felt like it meant hell was something we must endure to get to heaven, and that hell was not permanent. Like there was nowhere that God could not reach us and that his love and mercy were always accessible. You make some very solid points though.
Jesus was in the tomb until he rose very early on the first day of the week,he rested on the Sabbath day from all his work which he had accomplished, remember he told Mary of magdala don't touch me for I have not yet gone to my father
good point there.... A LOT of misunderstanding is our human scale understand is used to explain things. "today you will be with me in heaven" is an immediate human time scale. BUT God is not constrainted by time and location. God is OUTSIDE of time.
Throught his spirit he go to near father ,in cross Jesus said father I submit my spirit into your hand ..but now this situation is about spiritual glorious body
Deuteronomy 29:29 The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may follow all the words of this law.
In traditional Christian theology, the Harrowing of Hell, or "the descent of Christ into Hell" or Hades, is the saving act of Christ to the souls in Hades between His Crucifixion and Resurrection. In triumphant descent, Christ preached and bestowed salvation to the souls held captive there since the beginning of the world.
Amen! Yes, mchapman132, we chant from Pascha to Pentecost "Christ has risen from the dead, trampling down death by death, and upon those in the tombs bestowing life." All of you who comment here, find the icon of Christ's victory over Death and study it. One arm is raising Adam and the other is raising Eve representing the salvation of mankind. His feet are trampling down the broken gates of Hades. There are broken chains and keys scattered all about the black void of hades, indicating the salvation of those in the tombs and cells of Hades being freed. In some of the icons there is an old man bound in chains representing Death being conquered, trampled and taken captive. This is what the Lover of mankind did for our souls. This is what the Godman did for our salvation. This is what the Son of God did for all of creation - freed it from Death's grip. Now, go and live your life in the freedom He has wrought for you.
This lesson should also have included Matt. 12:40, which tells us that Christ spent 3 days and 3 nights in the heart of the earth, as Jonas spent 3 days and 3 nights in the whales' belly. Paradise, which was also known as Abraham's bosom, is found in the heart of the earth and hell also, as seen in Luke 16:22-26. There seems to be 2 compartments here one of pleasure, one of torment with a great gulf in between. While some believe Luke 16 is a parable, others state that it is literal bc a parable would not include a person's name as with Lazarus. This could help clarify the issue. Many conclude that Christ's body was in the grave, his spirit was in heaven, while his soul was in the heart of the earth. However, faith is a peculiar institution.
Acts 24:15 I have a hope in God, which these men themselves also accept, that there will be a resurrection, both of the righteous and the unrighteous. Well, there is no such thing as a righteous or unrighteous body. Therefore, this can only mean that there will be a resurrection of righteous and unrighteous souls (together with their new bodies). And for anyone to claim that righteous souls DESCENDING with Christ to reacquire bodies counts as a "resurrection" of the righteous is not true as this verse will reveal. Matt. 24:31 And he shall send forth his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together HIS ELECT from the four corners of the world, from one end of heaven to the other. So if righteous souls who ARE the elect will be descending with Christ, then the angels would just be gathering bodies. Of course, bodies in the ground are not "the elect." They are just physical material. And even a transformed, immortal body cannot be the real person. The real person will reside in that heavenly dwelling (2 Cor. 5:2).
Jesus went to Abraham's Bosom. It was split into two parts before Jesus' death. One side paradise, where the OT prophets & saved souls dwelt, & the other side was, essentially, a place of torment. The souls in prison were those who did not turn to God during life, possibly fallen angels as well. Jesus then probably proclaimed the gospel & what He accomplished on the cross & took everyone in Abraham's Bosom to actual Heaven, for they were finally redeemed & made righteous in the sight of God thru Jesus' death. The proclamation of the gospel & redemption of those on the paradise side of Sheol, probably wasn't such great news for the damed souls of those who rejected God in life, including all who perished in the Flood.
@Mark Warner When ppl die their soul goes to Heaven to be with God. When Jesus comes back there will be some believers still alive (they'll be caught up) but those who've died & are in Christ will recieve glorified bodies & unit with their souls. It kind of gives you the idea that their dead bodies will be raised, glorified & reunite with their souls.
@Mark Warner Remember the thief on the cross whom Jesus told that he will be with Him in paradise that day? (Luke 23) In Luke 16 Jesus uses the parable of the rich man & Lazarus to hint at what happens after death. One person is in torment & the other in paradise. When you cherrypick verses without context, it seems like the Bible contradicts, brother. Remember that Jesus's spirit derived from Heaven. He claimed He would descend into the belly of the earth when He died (Mathew 12)
Prior to the resurrection saints that died went to paradise, a section of hades Jesus spoke of regarding the rich man and Lazarus. After the resurrection saints that die go to heaven and those that were in paradise were taken to heaven at His resurrection.
This answer, though sincerely appreciated, is wholly inadequate. It does not address the Soul of Jesus. Furthermore, on the day of his resurrection, Jesus told Mary Magdalene, "Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father; but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God." - The Gospel of John, chapter 20, verse 17. A disembodied Messiah is antithetical to the wisdom of Solomon, who wrote: " For the living know that they shall die; but the dead know not anything; neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the Sun." - Ecclesiastes, chapter 9, verses 5,6. [ Compare also Ecclesiastes 3:17-22 & Acts 2:33-35 ]
Truly I’m telling you today, that you will be with me in Paradise. All I did was move the coma location by one word and got a completely different answer. Even Jesus being God, didn’t go to Heaven that day. The original Bible didn’t have spaces to separate the words, everything was jumbled up together it’s no spaces. Punctuation and red print didn’t come along until after the first 500 years. Simply put, Jesus soul sleep in the grave, resting on the Sabbath, according to the Law.
Hebrews 2: 9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man. Jesus HAD TO “taste death.” There are two kinds of death. If He did not taste the second death then our sin debt is not paid in full… During the three days He tasted death (the second death). If we are talking about a physical death then saved men would no longer experience a physical death. So clearly we are talking about another kind of death, the death that entered at the fall. Jesus provides restoration and redemption through the finished work He preformed “IT IS FINISHED!” Paid IN FULL!
"For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." (Matthew 12:40, NIV) Here's your answer
Interesting. I’ve always wondered why a lot of the prosperity preachers preach that Jesus went to hell for three days to be punished and tortured. Just now, scanning channels I saw Creflo Dollar saying this. It’s never made sense to me. He was to die on the cross and be raised from the dead but going to hell being part of that process is never mentioned. At least not in any deliberate way. Also on the cross when He said it IS finished, isn’t He saying the punishment phase, is over? The fact that He tells the thief he will be in paradise with Him today- has always been so comforting to me. So simple. So innocent and so beautiful. All he said was remember me Lord when you come into your kingdom…. Many preachers today would most definitely say no man who simply asked that simple question would saved. But he was. We have no way of knowing what Jesus was doing those three days. But I do not believe He was being tortured in hell as humans and fallen angels are. I don’t believe it would serve a purpose. Dying in that cross, the way He did, was the punishment we deserve. Hell is reserved for those who reject Christ, not punishment for sin only. I believe the cross was Gods wrath being poured out in full on Him for our sin. Does that make sense? I have trouble putting into words the thoughts in my head lol. God bless y’all!
My nephew told that in his church priest told that JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD proclaim Gospel message to the dead to repent during those 3days and night. But I said to him No.
@@lutkedog1 He was in Heaven with a sinner who acknowledged his sins and was forgiven. And Jesus mentions paradise and Heaven as being one. I do not believe Jesus went to Hell. If you can provide the scriptures that elude to that I would appreciate it.
@@thomastessier4529 was crucified, died, and was buried. He descended into hell. The third day He arose again from the dead. This was the apostles creed.
My Lutheran faith preaches and believes Christ descended into hell and rose again from death on the 3rd day. It's in the Nicene and Apostles Creeds. Let us not forget that God is omnipresent, so Jesus could have been in heaven and hell at the same time.
Habakkuk 3:17 Although the fig tree shall not blossom, neither shall fruit be in the vines; the labour of the olive shall fail, and the fields shall yield no meat; the flock shall be cut off from the fold, and there shall be no herd in the stalls: 1 Corinthians 13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
What does it mean in Colossians 1:20 that God reconciled all things to Himself through Christ's blood, things on earth and in heaven? What things in heaven were reconciled to Himself? Thanks!
Jesus said I give up up My spirit today. Luke 23:46. Holiness and evil are impossible And to the thief on the cross He said today you will be with me in paradise.Luke 24:43 A Holy God would not go to hell as some demonizations teach. Although He endured hell by taking our sins upon Himself.
Speaking of three days. It took usually took three days for people that were crucified to die. There is no punctuation in the Greek. Most pastors put a comma after "today." And they quote that Jesus said to the thief, "I say to you, this day you shall be with me in paradise." Luke 23:43. However, "Pilate marveled that Jesus was already dead." Mark 15:42-44 So they did not die the same day. If you change the comma, there is a new meaning. "I say to you this day, you shall be with me in paradise." And where is paradise (garden)? Did Jesus bunge jump to heaven and back? Did he receive his kingdom while he was dead?
Given that there are no comas in the original text, they have been inserted to help us understand the verse. However read this passage with the "coma" moved after instead of before Jesus's answer would read ‘I tell you the truth today, you will be with me in paradise’”. If that might be saying I tell you today (right now, if you will) that the repentant thief would be with Him in His Kingdom. That view might be more in line given He tells Mary to not hold on to Him as He had not ascended to His Father. Food for thought given He is the first fruit how would the their assend before He ascends to the Father.
Very helpful overview of relevant Scriptures, and I believe your conclusions are correct: the essence of hell is the ABSENCE OF GOD, which Jesus experienced during his crucifixion; one possible argument is that the PLACE hell - the place of eternal suffering - will not become reality until AFTER the Judgment - the lake of fire in Revelation. It is obvious that unredeemed spirits after physical death will experience suffering of some sort, which will be hell-like in nature - essentially separated from God when his presence would be the ONLY thing that is desired.
This makes me confused because I thought hell is only reserved for judgement day, and the fallen angels weren't imprisoned in hell but were imprisoned in the abyss.
Revelation 20:14: And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. Hades/Hell is a holding place of torment under our feet (same with paradise unlike what this video says). The lake of fire is a completely different place and is where all evil doers will be cast on Judgement day. Satan, his angels, Death itself, and Hell (along with its inhabitants) will be cast there. And yes, the fallen angels are in Tartarus which is separate from hell.
God says when we die we either go to Heaven where all the Righteous go and those that weren't saved go to hell.after 1000 years all will stand for God for all the sins in their lives then will be thrown into fire and brimstone. Call upon him while you can .
I was reborn again in 1978 I gave my only begotten son that I loved the world that much then he loved the world that much she gave His only begotten son JesusI am the son of the most high God Jesus Christ
So. ALL PRAISES AND WORSHIP AND THANKSGIVING BE UNTO our GOD THE FATHER; our GOD THE SON; our GOD AND VERY BEST FRIEND THE HOLY SPIRIT AND THEY 3-IN-1. WHERE WAS THE LORD JESUS DURING THOSE 3 DAYS? HE WAS EVERYWHERE AT THE SAME TIME. We know this because HE WAS, IS AND WILL ALWAYS BE, OMNIPRESENT. Nuff said. SHALOM.
“He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him.” Colossians 2:15 ESV I think this scripture has something to do with Jesus’s kingly acclamatory procession in hell.
“Today thou shalt be with me in paradise”. Paradise, meaning world of spirits. It couldn’t be “heaven” yet, because the judgement hadn’t yet taken place. Christ’s body was in the tomb, but His spirit still existed, it’s eternal, and each of us also have a spirit within us that’s eternal. Peter told us where He went in spirit: to preach to the spirits in “prison”, meaning a prison like place in the spirit world. No one had been resurrected yet, because Christ hadn’t been, and He’s the first fruits of the resurrection. What is resurrection? The rejoining of the spirit and the body, never again to be separated. When He told Mary not to touch him, He had just reunited His spirit to His now immortal body, and hadn’t yet presented Himself to the Father after triumphing over death and hell. Later, after he had ascended to the Father, he appeared to the apostles and disciples and told them to handle Him and see, “for a spirit hath not flesh and bones as ye see me have”. It’s all pretty simple, and shows the amazing love that Christ and the Father have for each of us, and how little we understand about their plan for us, but we know that infinite possibilities await us because of their grace.
No one should even argue over where Jesus was during those 3 days. People need to only focus on diligently serving God by spreading His message of salvage and praying for those people that God will shine His mercy upon them. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever put their faith in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Ephesian 2:8-9 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not by works, so that no one can boast. James 2:14-26 14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, 16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? 17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. 18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: show me thy faith without thy works, and I will show thee my faith by my works. 19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? 23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. 24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. 25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way? 26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
MY question is ---- if like the Bible said it was Pontius Pilate and his solders who had Jesus arrested and nailed to the cross ,where in the Bible does Pontius Pilate say he had Jesus killed for our sins ?
When jesus died and was dead for three days he came alive when he was resurrected by almighty God YHWH he had not gone to heaven yet because he said dont touch me I haven't ascended into heaven yet
It also depends on how you interpret "today I tell you, you will be with me in Paradise". Was the thief told "today"? it would happen? or that he was told THAT DAY.?.today, I tell you..???
Jesus was dead for three days he went no where!! death is the absence of life not a different form of life , the dead are unconscious, not aware, not alive, this is the trick Satan has fooled generations with thinking they believe in the death burial and resurrection all the time having a skewed twisted idea on what death is , and thus not believing , Jesus was dead! the father had his spirit and resurrected him from death not paradise,
Note the Word - formerly were disobedient: by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison, who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water.
Thanks for your comments concerning the three days of Jesus in the grave. However, in John 20:17 Jesus in speaking to Mary, says "touch me not for I am not yet ascended to my Father..." This would imply that Jesus had not been in heaven (in the flesh and spirit) or that paradise is a separate place than heaven as promised to the thief on the cross. The story of Lazarus can also be referenced (Abraham's bosom) as paradise and not heaven. Where was Abraham and the prophets (who appeared in conference with Jesus in the garden as His apostles watched and ask to build an alter) if not in paradise?
Jesus says in Matthew 12: 39 to 40, " for as Jonah was in the belly of the Great fish, SO I, the SON of MAN , will be in the HEART of the EARTH for 3 days and nights"". Sorry you have to explain that.
Yes! The dead cease to exist as God decreed (Genesis 3:19, Ecclesiastes 9:10). If Lazarus had any experience after dying he would have mentioned it. (Psalm 146:3, 4) Do not put your trust in princes Nor in a son of man, who cannot bring salvation. 4 His spirit goes out, he returns to the ground; On that very day his thoughts perish. The spirit going out is similar to saying that the fire went out. No trip taking. Just a ceasing to exist.
What can you make of this then? 1 Peter 4:6, KJV: For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.
Scripture says our Lord and savior Jesus Christ was 3days and 3nights in the heart of the earth you know why to set those who did not know him free from captivity remember when he died some resurrected from the dead amen 🙏👍✅
And a stupid story because those who were resurrected would still be walking around if you want further proof go look for all those Earthquake split tombs they would be a shrine necropolis outside Jerusalem, they don't exist either.
There's a lot of grey area not touched on that contradicts the answers discussed in this segment, How so ? Remember how Jesus told the sinner he would see him in paradise that very day ? If Jesus went to hell for 3 days, he wouldn't have seen the sinner that very day in hell right? But, if Jesus and the sinner went to heaven that very day, then why did he tell the apostles he appeared to 3 days later after his resurrection not to touch him because, he had not yet ascended to his father? ... See the grey area now?
Correct me if I’m wrong, Jesus died on Wednesday in the middle of Passover, Mary Joseph asked for his body to be lowered down to them, nothing could be done on Thursday but, he was placed in his tomb on Friday,on Sunday when Mary and Joseph went to the tomb to bring the essence and oils he was resurrection,,he was never embalmed
It seems that he died on Wednesday, and was in tune before sunset. Quickly… Without the proper burial preparations. That night, in the next day were a Sabbath day… As they were the first day of Passover. That week had 2 sabbaths in it. They didn’t finally go to the tomb until Sunday morning with their spices in order to properly prepare the body. Because there was some issue with them being able to purchase the necessary ingredients.
How could Yahshua have risen to paradise when in John 20:17 17 Jesus *said to her, “Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brothers and say to them, ‘I ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.’”
The real question is what Jesus taught the apostles for 40 days after his resurrection which scripture does not elaborate on. As valuable as scripture is, there is a void for what he taught the apostles during that time. John even says that they excluded much. So where do you go to find out what was taught in those important days about the kingdom of heaven.
Since there’s so much controversy, and question about where He was for those three days, I’m not going to worry about it. I’ll ask Him when I see Him one day.
Why "one day"? Why not ask Him NOW? There is nothing wrong with asking Jesus (God) questions. I ask Him all the time to give me understanding; ESPECIALLY on "controversial" things. Because, there are few things more liberating than experiencing the TRUTH; that is SO far removed from what MOST believe.
Let me know when you do, I'd be real interested🙃
@@DixieDee Well you could ask but it doesn’t mean God will tell you. Romans 15:4 (KJV) For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope. God wants us to be satisfied with what he has given us.
The answer is very easy - nowhere. A mythical entity cannot be anywhere.
You have more than those three days when Jesus did not exist in the first place.
"Where was Jesus for the three days between His death and resurrection?"
I fought that for 80 yrs of my 91 yr of Christianity. But when I became 75; everything changed in my life. That was because, I finally got on my knees and seriously with tears; asking Jesus, to give me "Wisdom", "Understanding" and "Heavenly Truth".
Also I said, "I am not trying to be right. I just want to know WHAT is right". And within days, I began to see things I had NEVER seen. Yet they were always there. And I heard things I had never heard. Yet they were always there.
And the best: I began to see scriptures that I had never seen. Yet they were always there and I read them! Praise Jesus. Thus, I have an incredibly understanding of my bible, than ever. And I believe the Holy Spirit's leading me to believe that: Jesus went to HELL for 3 days*. But the time was Forever.
And it had to be; to pay for EVERY Sin (except for one) that would ever be. And that is why Jesus cried out on the cross to the Father. And for the first time, I realized WHY Jesus would pray, to what HE really was. For Jesus is the name of the true God Almighty forever. Amen!
And I now feel that my prayers EVERY day to Jesus and through the days; that the Holy Spirit is detouring me around lies and causing me to SEE, HEAR and READ truthfully. That I had never knew them. But they were always there. Believe it or not. End of story and I rest me case...
...In any case kind Sir, Please Pray OFTEN and Praise Jesus OFTEN; for He is the ONLY true "God Almighty"; there will ever have been. And may Jesus bless you and yours always. AMEN!
* Remember this...Matthew 19:26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
How could he have gone to hell forever if he was with his apostles three days later, and is now seated at the right hand of the father? I don’t understand what your theology is coming from. It plainly states that the dead have no consciousness. This idea of Casper the friendly ghost going off to some magic land is from Greek paganism. No where does it say that in the Bible.
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Well let's see in...Matthew 19:26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
And having it. to BE in the bible, please read this in...John 21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.
IE: the Golden Great Bridge is real. But it isn't in the bible. Also, the US of America is real; but isn't in the bible. Etc, etc and ETC! So...
End of story, and I rest me case...
Now I have had said, what I believe; and you have said what you believe. Sadly, they are different (VERY common). Thus, since I never debate or argue (because I believe Jesus doesn't want us to do it); I shall walk away in a Christian way; and never comment to this video...
Unless: IF, the're others that want to reply. Praise Jesus' Holy Name.
I encourage you to read psalm 22, understand Jewish culture. Understand how he wish students studied and recited scripture.
@@steveslenderman Hmmm...Before you were born (for I am 92 yrs old now); I was taught by my "Jew" Step-Dad teacher; about Jewish Culture! And many, untold other of the things Jewish do!
Thank you for your reply! Now, Jesus is "Iesus" in Greek and "Yeshua" in Hebrew. And that is after Gods name was "YHWH"* (in writing) and "Yahweh" (in speaking). This was, because Hebrew did not write Vowels, in their Culture. And...
*The reason that God changed His name; most of the Jews had Polluted and Prostituted the Covenant; by the time 70 AD came! Because most of His so-called "chosen"; were committing Abominable Sins! So, God made a New "Faith" Covenant Culture; rather than a "613 Commandments" Covenant Culture. Where ALL should say this...
...Brethren, Please Pray OFTEN and Praise Jesus OFTEN; for He is the ONLY true "God Almighty"; there will ever have been. And may Jesus bless you and yours always. AMEN!
Where does the Bible clearly state that the dead have no consciousness? Paul said "to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord." Seems to me that's pretty clearly stating that we do have a consciousness. Also, When Jesus said to the man on the cross, "Today, you will be with me in Paradise." I fully believe that when we die, we retain our soul and spirit, and that we are very much who we were, only lacking a flesh and blood body, and we are with Jesus. Once Jesus sets up his kingdom on earth, then we will have glorified bodies--bodies like what Jesus had before his ascension.
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Great video! I enjoy exploring all the areas of the Scripture that most Christians say "oh it doesn't matter". For me it really brings the Bible to life.
What a powerful affirmation of faith! In every situation, we can find solace in the knowledge that God is by our side. Let's face the day ahead with confidence and gratitude, trusting in His divine plan. Amen. 🌟🌈
Luke 23:42, “Then he said: “Jesus, remember me when you get into your Kingdom.” And he said to him: “Truly I tell you today, you will be with me in Paradise.”
The comma is in the wrong place, or Jesus is a liar.
@@eltonron1558 And you're calling the Bible a lie.
@kac0404 If the comma is in the right place, Jesus is a liar. Since there are no commas in Greek, some idiot ENGLISH, scribe put the comma in the wrong place. Do I need to cite EVERY passage, in which he said he would be DEAD?
I say to you TODAY, comma you SHALL be with me in paradise, is how it should have been printed in English versions.
There are at least 9 PASSAGES, in which he and the apostles described him getting KILLED, and DEAD, for 3 days and nights.
If you can't show us that from the Bible YOU HAVE BEEN LIED TO, AND BELIEVE THE LIE. Not the Bible, because anyone serious about this subject should know it, bless your mortal heart. Think about it. If he wasn't dead, he lied, which means Christianity is bogus. The basic tenant of Christianity is resurrection of the DEAD. HE was dead in his tomb for 3 days and nights, as scripture says.
Any other scripture IMPLYING something else, is easily explained.
I will NEVER be surprised by Christianity that doesn't know basics, especially Sunday Christianity.
@kac0404 Look at the first comment. If he transcribed it correctly, it is correct, which means, I've never seen a correct rendering of the passage in any English versions. So what version I s he quoting?
Most say, I say to you COMMA, today you shall be with me in paradise. He just wrote ,
I say to you today COMMA, you will be with me, which is CORRECT.
@kac0404 I'm calling anyone who believes Jesus was NOT dead 3 day and nights, a liar.
It is written at least 9 passages, he would be dead, not alive in any way.
Jesus said to Mary while standing outside his tomb after being resurrected, "I have not yet ascended to the Father".
Well that still leaves paradise on the table, and the tomb account isn't what Paul was addressing. Jesus did in fact ascend to heaven but it wasn't before He resurrected.
That actually eliminates a lot of cult heresies that teach Jesus went to heaven and the thief didn't.
Amen! I Praise, Trust and Admire The Heavenly Father, Lord Jesus Messiah and The Holy Spirit Forever! Amen! 🙏😊🌹🙏🙏🌹😊🙏🌹🙏
After I go with my father I will be with my father again and I will be
His body was in the tomb. His spirit was in paradise, also known as the purgatory or Abraham's bosom. He went there to preach deliverance to the captives and empty paradise. He also took the keys of death and Hell away from Satan. If anyone here does not know Jesus as their Lord and savior, Resurrection Sunday is a great time to come to know him. Please pray this prayer with me: "Lord Jesus; I believe that you died for me on the cross for my sins, and you rose again giving us all resurrection life forever. Forgive me for my sins and come into my heart and make me a new creation, and I will serve you all my days. In your name :Amen. John 03:16-17. God is Love . 1John 04:08
You could not be more wrong. Bible says death is an unconscious sleep. He was in the tomb, dead and unconscious.
@Robert Stephenson
Jesus didn't exist and he was invented by Paul there is nothing for you prove but a lie.
@Robert Stephenson Using references from a book filled with false history, contrived characters, biblical claims of events that occurred in other times, failed prophecies, impossible physics and ignorances of the men who wrote it hardly constitutes a reliable reference.
@robertstephenson6806bona said dead and asleep--not unconscious.
I disagree with the soul sleep perspective, but it's worth you looking up.
Purgatory and Abraham's bosom are very different things, though. Abraham's bosom was/is a temporary paradise. Purgatory is a place of penance, suffering, and cleansing because when we die we're still too ugly from sin to be in heaven and have to be clean before we can enter.
Purgatory is a dogma with several pieces of doctrine inside it--it doesn't merely mean a holding place. The amount of time one spends there is proportional to the amount of sun and types of sim committed: a good person could spend 10 years in purgatory, which is almost a saintly short period of time, and bad people reasonably spend a couple thousand years in purgatory.
On the other hand, Abraham's bosom either ended when Jesus completed His sacrifice OR ends on final judgement day. Abraham's bosom also isn't a literal place: it's a description of the concept of paradise. Abraham's bosom is a picture of the Roman custom (which the Jews adopted) of reclining onto the person next to you during meals. The same happens in The Lord's Supper when Peter reclined onto Christ; Peter was in His bosom. The story which gives us the term is used to emphasize that not every Jew is a member of the covenant; the rich man, a Jew, would not be with Abraham even though he's of the family line. Abraham and the poor man are either together in paradise, a temporary place, or in heaven, but Abraham's bosom is his literal bosom in that story--not an ethereal location.
Your original comment was lovely
@@Bona19646Not so my friend the dead know where they are very aware
Thank you. Love your Teaching because you always back-up your Message with Biblical Scripture. To know Jesus, is to know his word. The Bible is the Mind of Christ.
Amen to that !! So well said 🤍✝️
A distorted version of it.
@@o.i.c.uvanish9169 what is that supposed to mean ?!
Wtf has biblical scripture got to do with evidence or truth of anything.
@@derekardito2032 Hello Friend ! The Bible has Much to say about EVERYTHING Needful…. TRUTH in world of Lies,,, FREEDOM in a world of bondage ,,, REALITY instead of Fantasy,,, LOVE instead of Hate,,,, the list goes on and on !!
Peace and Joy to you Friend 👋☀️
When the Son of man comes with his his angels he will sit ON THE THRONE OF HIS GLORY (as King of his kingdom) THEN he will say to those on his right ENTER THE KINGDOM PREPARED FOR YOU!"
The penitent thief asked to be remembered WHEN YOU COME INTO YOUR KINGDOM.
Paradise will be on the new earth (where the tree of life will be) Rev. 21, 22. And the throne of the Father and the Lamb will be there!
He was ministering. To the lost. Just like his earthly ministry. So they could gain eternal life
We will no everything when we are in Glory With the lord ! 😀🙏❤️🎉🎉🎉❤️🙏
Matthew 12:40 "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."
Ephesians 4:9-10 "Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things."
Friends, the subject of the state of the dead is critical or you'll be deceived by teachings of the devil.
In order to correctly understand this issue you have to go back to the beginning, in Genesis, in the garden of Eden. God said, ' you shall surely die ' and the devil said ' you shall not surely die, you'll be like God knowing good and evil '.
Plenty of verses make it plain that when you die you know not a thing. Just look it up. Job chapter 14 is a very important chapter on the state of the dead. Job 19:25 Job affirms his belief in the Resurrection. In 1 Thess 4 it's very clear that when Christ shall come the believers who are dead are resurrected first and together with the living believers meet the Lord in the air. At the same time!
There're a few scatterings of people who are said to be in heaven, for example when Christ rose from the dead and Moses, transfiguration and Jude. Moses appeared as a representative of the dead believers who would be saved as a result of Jesus' sacrifice and Elijah represented those that would be alive when he comes.
The reason you have this foolish teaching that Jesus went to heaven straight away is deception by the devil as in the beginning! That's the same reason you have psychics and mediums. These are instruments of the devil my friends.
@@stonemuk If soul sleep is true, can you please explain the following:
1 Samuel 28 - In which Samuels spirit/ghost comes up from the earth and speaks with Saul. How is Samuel able to come up from the earth and talk with Saul if soul sleep is true?
Luke 16:19-31 - Jesus tells a story about two people (the rich man and Lazarus) that died and after they were dead, they were both concious and aware, the rich man was tormented in flames and Lazarus was comforted with Abraham, they see each other and communicate... I know some say this is simply a parable, but the thing with parables is; Jesus doesn't give names, but here in this story he does.
Philippians 1:21&23 - Paul says that for him to die is 'gain', and he goes on to say that he has a desire to depart and to be with Christ. So to Paul, dying is gaining something, suggesting that departing from the body is to be with Christ. If soul sleep is true, then when you die you are gaining nothing and you will not depart from your body and be with Christ.
2 Corinthians 5:8 - "We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.". How can you be absent from your body and be present with the Lord is soul sleep is true?
Revelation 6:9-11 - The souls of those who have died for Christ are under the alter in heaven asking when they will be avenged, they are told to rest for a little longer and are given white robes. These souls of the dead appear to be concious and aware in heaven.
It is true that the dead know nothing, certainly not their bodies, and also it would seem their soul/spirit is unaware of what is happening on the earth after they have died.
@@gr3ywolf144
If you want to understand any subject you must go to the first place it is mentioned and follow up from there. The Scriptures which came later cannot contradict that which is already established in Genesis.
KJV Genesis 2:7
7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
KJV Genesis 3:19
19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
KJV John 5:28-29
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
KJV Psalms 146:1-4
1 Praise ye the LORD. Praise the LORD, O my soul.
2 While I live will I praise the LORD: I will sing praises unto my God while I have any being.
3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.
4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.
KJV Ecclesiastes 3:18-21
18 I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts.
19 For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity.
20 All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.
21 Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?
What is clear is that man was formed from the dust of the earth. He only became a living soul/being after God breathed the breath of life into his nostrils. God does not say to Adam that he's dust and breath, simply dust thou art!
Solomon in Ecclesiastes is emphatic that there's no difference between man and beast, they all go back to dust where they came from.
He's clear also that the same thing happens to their ' spirits'. Man's spirit is no different from a cow's. Unless you are suggesting that a cow's spirit also goes to heaven, which would contradict the Scriptures!
Jesus himself said that the hour is coming when they that are in the graves would hear his voice and come to life meaning that they cannot be alive in any shape or form except for the few examples already mentioned, Moses and the resurrected saints at the Lord's own Resurrection!
About Samuel you do not seriously think that was the real Samuel 😳. If you do, I suggest you stop trying to teach anyone until you are properly equipped with understanding the basics!
KJV Psalms 146:1-4
1 Praise ye the LORD. Praise the LORD, O my soul.
2 While I live will I praise the LORD: I will sing praises unto my God while I have any being.
3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.
4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.
Samuel's thoughts perished the very day he died!
You'll remember the serpent/devil telling Eve she would not surely die?
He's working through the fallen angels to perpetuate that lie. That's the reason God gave a penalty of death to anyone who consulted mediums and anyone with a familiar spirit.
Also this would contradict your earlier assertion that the spirit goes to God yet Samuel comes from the earth. KJV 1 Samuel 28:13
13 And the king said unto her, Be not afraid: for what sawest thou? And the woman said unto Saul, I saw gods ascending out of the earth.
Those who set themselves against the government of God have entered into an alliance with the archapostate, and he will exercise his power and cunning to captivate the senses and mislead the understanding. He will cause everything to appear in a false light. {PP 635}
@@stonemuk Thanks for the reply and the time it must have taken to type all of that.👍
There is a common theme that I am seeing with the verses you posted; they all seem to be taking about what happens to the body when you die. I agree that the body returns to the earth, returns to dust and as such all thoughts cease.
"Jesus himself said that the hour is coming when they that are in the graves would hear his voice and come to life" - I have no issue with that, everyone will be resurrected, speaking of their bodies.
"...meaning that they cannot be alive in any shape or form" - Mark 12:26-27 - "And as touching the dead, that they rise: have ye not read in the book of Moses, how in the bush God spake unto him, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?
27 He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the LIVING: ye therefore do greatly err." - Jesus says that God is not the God of the dead, but of the living, even though at the time of Moses, all three, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob had been long buried. Jesus seems to be suggesting that they are alive in some way.
Also, you gave no explanation to any of the verses I quoted. The only one you mentioned was about Samuel, suggesting that this was not Samuel, even though the Bible clearly records that this was in fact Samuel that Saul was speaking to, im just reading what it says, and it says that both Saul and Samuel spoke to each other. The text does not say that this wasn't Samuel, it says that it is Samuel speaking. Even the medium that Saul went to see seemed surprised.
"Samuel's thoughts perished the very day he died! " - Yes, in terms of his body. Still I feel you have to explain Samuel speaking with Saul, and without any snarky comments such as "you do not seriously think that was the real Samuel 😳".
Can you also explain 2 Corinthians 12:2-4 - " I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. 3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;)
4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter." Paul appears to be suggesting that there is some part that can be out of the body and go somewhere else. How can you be out of the body and be somewhere else if the body is all there is?
As for the devil telling Eve she would not surely die; That was indeed a lie, there was a two fold death, one, physical death as in the body, and two a spiritual death, as in being seperated from God because of sin.
"Those who set themselves against the government of God have entered into an alliance with the archapostate, and he will exercise his power and cunning to captivate the senses and mislead the understanding. He will cause everything to appear in a false light. {PP 635}" - What is that? PP 635? Are you relying on some authority other than the Bible?
@@gr3ywolf144
Do you believe that the Bible does not contradict itself?
But when Jesus arose He told Mary I have not yet ascended to my father,. And Jesus told us about the rich ruler Gods people where in the bosom of Abraham.Luke 16:23,
The timing starts on Thursday at sun down.
That is his body and spirit combined
@@Shining-star286 Is He not God without His body? He didn't go to heaven during the three days. He went to paradise.
@monocuco818 If he went to paradise, he lied about being dead, at least 9 TIMES, bless your heart. He was dead in his tomb, or a liar, take your pick.
9 TIMES, at least. Dead for 3 days and nights, NOT PARADISE. What he told the thief has the COMMA, in the wrong place, in English versions.
@@eltonron1558 Not necessarily. Both are true. Death is the separation of body from Spirit. So He, as spirit, went to paradise where the righteous spirits wait. His body remained in the tomb, exactly like you said.
Great to see you are on TH-cam. I have used the web page for years. I frequently send links to Catholics and Muslims.
Thanks!
It’s helpful when we talk about things in terms of what we think might be going on, bc no one knows 100% for sure. Thanks for doing that! And we all have good minds to discern.
For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Matthew 12:40 ESV
My understanding is that the Jews believed Sheol was inside the earth and has two compartments. Paradise is the compartment where Abraham and all the believers in God’s promise resided.
Where’s that? Can the earth have a heart attack from Jesus blockade
Good reference, good point. The narrator missed this entirely.
Yeah. Jesus knew He was going to be sent to Hell ... for 3 days ... which is how long it takes to destroy the soul.
God must punish anybody who sins ... with death (body & soul). This is why the body decays & dies ... & ... the Soul is sent to Hell.
Hell was created by God to punish fall Angels who are powerful spirits ... with freewill ... and are to serve & help the Children of God.
Fallen Angels can not be saved, and they know God created them, and that if they sin they will be punished forever.
God only created Adam & Eve ... with freewill & the ability to procreate Mankind ... and clearly warned them that if they sin .... they( an their descendants ) will die (body & soul) .... because the Mind of Man ( with freewill & nature) is the body & soul.
The nature of Man ... is the body ... and it is clearly corrupted by a common ancestor because every single human being will freely think & do something the is clearly evil or against God.
God deliberately made His Children ... with puny bodies & souls .... and able to procreate ... so that they can be saved ... and ... God can become a Father.
Adam is the Father of the Children of Man.
Jesus is the Father of the Children of God.
And Jesus is the first Child of God ... as the Son of God permanently has a body & soul.
The Angels ... who can not be saved if they sin ... were created to be the servants & helpers of God's Children .. and knew that if they will be punished forever if they sin.
This is why Satan .. hates the Human Race ... as he is one of the most powerful Angels and did not want be a servant & help of God's children.
And here is not time ... in heaven or Hell.
God is on a 7 000 year Salvation plan ... with Jesus returning in the year 1000 to rule for 1000 years ... and ... all the death & living Believers at the Second Coming ... will join Jesus in Heaven forever. But Jesus has just returned to rule for 1000 years. How so?
When you die .... you go straight to Judgement day in the year 7 000 or those alive on Earth ... to either join Jesus for ever or be sent to Hell to die.
God has to punish a sinner ... with death (body & soul). The body will die in the Universe. The soul will die in Hell.
God sent His only begotten Son ... to be the sin sacrifice ... that will satisfy God's just nature & His lover for His (sinful) creation.
@@abelincoln8885 . When was hell created , on the 8th day? In the beginning god created the heavens and the earth, rested on the 7th day and then created hell. Hell is a real place found only in the mind of Christians . Or religious people. No where else, it’s man that creates conditions of hell right here on earth.
Jesus who is also God is omnipresent meaning he can be in more places than one at the same time.The Holy Spirit is in every born again Christian.
Finally...a biblical answer
Also Jesus at the end said “father into your hands I commit my spirit” so another indication he went to be with the father.
First, burning the sins of the world in hell. Second, preaching to those in Abraham's paradise. Last fullfellment of GOD'S word on captivity.
Not “Three days later”, rather “on the third day”. Crucified on Friday,
Raised to Freeing the dead on Friday & Saturday, Appearing to apolsles on Saturday morning. Once raised in the Glory of God there is no night or day no time needed for rest. All the raised are immortal and will not die again. Thus we cannot put a time frame on what Jesus did after death on the cross.
@@titaniumspecial4207 - You are correct, it was not more than two nights between crucifixion and return to the temporal. The rising was immediate on the day of death. However there was work to be done that we would hear of but we cannot see.
Matthew 12:40 clearly refutes your position. In Jesus' own words he says the Son of Man shall be in the heart of the earth for three days and three nights.
Mt 12:40 - Just as Jonah was 3 days and 3 nights in the belly of the fish, so will the Son of Man be for 3 days and 3 nights in the heart of the earth. (which is where hades is)
Acts 2:31 - he (David), foreseeing this, spoke concerning the resurrection of the Christ, that He was not left in Hades, nor did His flesh see corruption. (It is implied He was there. And not left there but was brought out - resurrection)
Rom 10:6-7 - But the righteousness of faith speaks in this way, Do not say in your heart, Who will ascend into heaven? (That is, in order to bring Christ down from above) or, Who will descend into the abyss? (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead)
Paul clearly knew, Christ was in the abyss - like the verse plainly shows.
Rev 1:17-18 - Do not be afraid, I am the First and the Last and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. And I have the keys of Death and of Hades
John 20:17 - Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father
These verses clearly reveal that Christ went to Hades (where everyone went when they died) when He died. (the apostles creed also knew correctly biblically - "was crucified, dead and buried, He descended into Hades. On the third day He rose again from the dead") This makes it clear Paradise was not up there YET, but paradise (His presence) was still in Hades in the heart of the earth and only afterwards, paradise was in the Father's presence "in heaven".
This is such a bad, wrong answer to this huge question. Going into 1 verse not bring aware of where Paradise is and coming to a conclusion (and then misinterpreting other passages to fit the wrong conclusion) when there are a host of passages that clearly teach that Christ was in Hades between His death and resurrection..
Yeah Got Questions has some decent resources and answers, but when they start pulling different “versions” of the Bible to interpret a verse or view it’s forcing you’re own preset conclusion. I don’t believe that Christ was in hell for punishment myself, I believe when he said “it is finished.” He meant just that but hades held paradise and hell at this time, he went there for multiple reasons. I do not completely understand what all he did there but I know this answer is gibberish. A point made from God’s word shouldn’t need two, three, or even more versions of the Bible pulled to have an answer. Everything we need should be able to come from one version of the Bible. God hasn’t left us in darkness since Christ’s ascension, he didn’t leave us several volumes for 2,000 years to sift between to get answers.
@@backyardboosters9128 I totally hold the same view as well. Luke 16 from vs 19 Jesus teaches that Hades contained paradise and hell separated by a gulf. In John 5:28 Jesus said He was going to proclaim a message to those held there.
Ngl, I looked at this very differently. I felt like it meant hell was something we must endure to get to heaven, and that hell was not permanent. Like there was nowhere that God could not reach us and that his love and mercy were always accessible. You make some very solid points though.
Jesus was in the tomb until he rose very early on the first day of the week,he rested on the Sabbath day from all his work which he had accomplished, remember he told Mary of magdala don't touch me for I have not yet gone to my father
good point there....
A LOT of misunderstanding is our human scale understand is used to explain things.
"today you will be with me in heaven" is an immediate human time scale.
BUT
God is not constrainted by time and location. God is OUTSIDE of time.
The point is where was He in the three days. Yes, His body was in the grave, but where was His spirit??
He's talking about his glorified body, Resurrected, not his spirit.
Throught his spirit he go to near father ,in cross Jesus said father I submit my spirit into your hand ..but now this situation is about spiritual glorious body
Jesus was reborn again I gave my only begotten son for the world that I loved the world that much
Really?
Deuteronomy 29:29
The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may follow all the words of this law.
3pm Friday to early Sunday morning is only 1.5days.
Wednesday night to Saturday night
The important thing is where is He now?
In heaven? No use; He should be in your heart!
That’s the mystery 😂in Christianity
In your heart? Cite scripture saying, "in your heart," please.
@@jbfiveash636ephesians 3:17.
John 3:16 for God so love the world that he gave his only begotten son that whoso ever believeth on him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Amen,good message pastor
In traditional Christian theology, the Harrowing of Hell, or "the descent of Christ into Hell" or Hades, is the saving act of Christ to the souls in Hades between His Crucifixion and Resurrection. In triumphant descent, Christ preached and bestowed salvation to the souls held captive there since the beginning of the world.
Amen! Yes, mchapman132, we chant from Pascha to Pentecost "Christ has risen from the dead, trampling down death by death, and upon those in the tombs bestowing life."
All of you who comment here, find the icon of Christ's victory over Death and study it. One arm is raising Adam and the other is raising Eve representing the salvation of mankind. His feet are trampling down the broken gates of Hades. There are broken chains and keys scattered all about the black void of hades, indicating the salvation of those in the tombs and cells of Hades being freed. In some of the icons there is an old man bound in chains representing Death being conquered, trampled and taken captive.
This is what the Lover of mankind did for our souls. This is what the Godman did for our salvation. This is what the Son of God did for all of creation - freed it from Death's grip.
Now, go and live your life in the freedom He has wrought for you.
This lesson should also have included Matt. 12:40, which tells us that Christ spent 3 days and 3 nights in the heart of the earth, as Jonas spent 3 days and 3 nights in the whales' belly. Paradise, which was also known as Abraham's bosom, is found in the heart of the earth and hell also, as seen in Luke 16:22-26. There seems to be 2 compartments here one of pleasure, one of torment with a great gulf in between. While some believe Luke 16 is a parable, others state that it is literal bc a parable would not include a person's name as with Lazarus. This could help clarify the issue. Many conclude that Christ's body was in the grave, his spirit was in heaven, while his soul was in the heart of the earth. However, faith is a peculiar institution.
Living the high life in Vegas.
Acts 24:15
I have a hope in God, which these men themselves also accept, that there will be a resurrection, both of the righteous and the unrighteous.
Well, there is no such thing as a righteous or unrighteous body. Therefore, this can only mean that there will be a resurrection of righteous and unrighteous souls (together with their new bodies). And for anyone to claim that righteous souls DESCENDING with Christ to reacquire bodies counts as a "resurrection" of the righteous is not true as this verse will reveal.
Matt. 24:31
And he shall send forth his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together HIS ELECT from the four corners of the world, from one end of heaven to the other.
So if righteous souls who ARE the elect will be descending with Christ, then the angels would just be gathering bodies. Of course, bodies in the ground are not "the elect." They are just physical material. And even a transformed, immortal body cannot be the real person. The real person will reside in that heavenly dwelling (2 Cor. 5:2).
Jesus went to Abraham's Bosom. It was split into two parts before Jesus' death. One side paradise, where the OT prophets & saved souls dwelt, & the other side was, essentially, a place of torment. The souls in prison were those who did not turn to God during life, possibly fallen angels as well. Jesus then probably proclaimed the gospel & what He accomplished on the cross & took everyone in Abraham's Bosom to actual Heaven, for they were finally redeemed & made righteous in the sight of God thru Jesus' death. The proclamation of the gospel & redemption of those on the paradise side of Sheol, probably wasn't such great news for the damed souls of those who rejected God in life, including all who perished in the Flood.
@Mark Warner When ppl die their soul goes to Heaven to be with God. When Jesus comes back there will be some believers still alive (they'll be caught up) but those who've died & are in Christ will recieve glorified bodies & unit with their souls. It kind of gives you the idea that their dead bodies will be raised, glorified & reunite with their souls.
@Mark Warner Remember the thief on the cross whom Jesus told that he will be with Him in paradise that day? (Luke 23)
In Luke 16 Jesus uses the parable of the rich man & Lazarus to hint at what happens after death. One person is in torment & the other in paradise.
When you cherrypick verses without context, it seems like the Bible contradicts, brother.
Remember that Jesus's spirit derived from Heaven. He claimed He would descend into the belly of the earth when He died (Mathew 12)
That's exactly what i believe. Good to know im not alone.
You don't know, it's only in your imagination
Prior to the resurrection saints that died went to paradise, a section of hades Jesus spoke of regarding the rich man and Lazarus. After the resurrection saints that die go to heaven and those that were in paradise were taken to heaven at His resurrection.
This answer, though sincerely appreciated, is wholly inadequate. It does not address the Soul of Jesus. Furthermore, on the day of his resurrection, Jesus told Mary Magdalene, "Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father; but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God." - The Gospel of John, chapter 20, verse 17.
A disembodied Messiah is antithetical to the wisdom of Solomon, who wrote:
" For the living know that they shall die; but the dead know not anything; neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the Sun." - Ecclesiastes, chapter 9, verses 5,6.
[ Compare also Ecclesiastes 3:17-22 & Acts 2:33-35 ]
That is why we get baptized. For disobedience.Jesus was baptized fir them
Jesus went to Paradise to pick up Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David and all those who believed and obey God before Jesus' death.
He say after your fate you will be in the new garden 😇
AMEN 🙏 AND I THINK HE WAS BOTH IN HEAVEN AND EARTH
Nowhere, he was dead. David stated, when I die, I go to the earth, and my thoughts do perish"!
Truly I’m telling you today, that you will be with me in Paradise. All I did was move the coma location by one word and got a completely different answer. Even Jesus being God, didn’t go to Heaven that day. The original Bible didn’t have spaces to separate the words, everything was jumbled up together it’s no spaces. Punctuation and red print didn’t come along until after the first 500 years. Simply put, Jesus soul sleep in the grave, resting on the Sabbath, according to the Law.
Hebrews 2: 9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
Jesus HAD TO “taste death.” There are two kinds of death. If He did not taste the second death then our sin debt is not paid in full…
During the three days He tasted death (the second death).
If we are talking about a physical death then saved men would no longer experience a physical death.
So clearly we are talking about another kind of death, the death that entered at the fall. Jesus provides restoration and redemption through the finished work He preformed “IT IS FINISHED!”
Paid IN FULL!
You are correct, sister...Peter's sermon, acts 2:29-31..KJ version verse 31 says..." his soul was not left in hell"....
In Antara. The state between the previous life and the new life. But the new life is spiritual, because God is spirit (Jn 4:24).
The fact that God warned the people before the flood is a HUGE blow to the Atheist argument stating said flood as unrighteous
"For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." (Matthew 12:40, NIV)
Here's your answer
In the arms of the Father! Giving thanks for his love!
Interesting. I’ve always wondered why a lot of the prosperity preachers preach that Jesus went to hell for three days to be punished and tortured. Just now, scanning channels I saw Creflo Dollar saying this. It’s never made sense to me. He was to die on the cross and be raised from the dead but going to hell being part of that process is never mentioned. At least not in any deliberate way. Also on the cross when He said it IS finished, isn’t He saying the punishment phase, is over? The fact that He tells the thief he will be in paradise with Him today- has always been so comforting to me. So simple. So innocent and so beautiful. All he said was remember me Lord when you come into your kingdom…. Many preachers today would most definitely say no man who simply asked that simple question would saved. But he was. We have no way of knowing what Jesus was doing those three days. But I do not believe He was being tortured in hell as humans and fallen angels are. I don’t believe it would serve a purpose. Dying in that cross, the way He did, was the punishment we deserve. Hell is reserved for those who reject Christ, not punishment for sin only. I believe the cross was Gods wrath being poured out in full on Him for our sin. Does that make sense? I have trouble putting into words the thoughts in my head lol. God bless y’all!
Paying for someones punishment in three days is not the price of eternity in hell.
Jesus was in paradise, in He'll but not the burning side and set the captives free
He was entombed in the earth like he said he was going to be!!!
My nephew told that in his church priest told that JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD proclaim Gospel message to the dead to repent during those 3days and night.
But I said to him No.
He told the criminal that was crucified with Him that he would be with Him TODAY in paradise. I think paradise and Heaven are one in the same.
Jesus went into hell for three days or was he in paradise with the thief
@@lutkedog1 He was in Heaven with a sinner who acknowledged his sins and was forgiven. And Jesus mentions paradise and Heaven as being one. I do not believe Jesus went to Hell. If you can provide the scriptures that elude to that I would appreciate it.
@@thomastessier4529
was crucified, died, and was buried.
He descended into hell.
The third day He arose again from the dead.
This was the apostles creed.
@@lutkedog1 Please provide the scriptures that say Jesus went to Hell.
@@thomastessier4529
The apostles creed don't count does it.
My Lutheran faith preaches and believes Christ descended into hell and rose again from death on the 3rd day. It's in the Nicene and Apostles Creeds. Let us not forget that God is omnipresent, so Jesus could have been in heaven and hell at the same time.
Habakkuk 3:17
Although the fig tree shall not blossom, neither shall fruit be in the vines; the labour of the olive shall fail, and the fields shall yield no meat; the flock shall be cut off from the fold, and there shall be no herd in the stalls:
1 Corinthians 13:8
Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
How could He have gone to the Father when He told Mary that, "He had not yet gone to the Father?"
Great question!
Right, 1 of many contractions of the supposed ultimate story.
@@braxtonoertwig9191
Many contractions of a poorly manufactured story.
@@lutkedog1 Nice, thousands of years of theology just got destroyed by lutkdog1
@@ppjump4mma
Just knowing the difference between real and BS no need for a "a theology degree"
What does it mean in Colossians 1:20 that God reconciled all things to Himself through Christ's blood, things on earth and in heaven? What things in heaven were reconciled to Himself?
Thanks!
Things were finally put into order the way God intended and wanted it to be through Jesus’s blood
@@badzs. Thanks for the reply brother, God bless you.
@@badzs. which things are refered as things in heaven
Us
Jesus said I give up up My spirit today. Luke 23:46. Holiness and evil are impossible And to the thief on the cross He said today you will be with me in paradise.Luke 24:43
A Holy God would not go to hell as some demonizations teach. Although He endured hell by taking our sins upon Himself.
Speaking of three days. It took usually took three days for people that were crucified to die. There is no punctuation in the Greek. Most pastors put a comma after "today." And they quote that Jesus said to the thief, "I say to you, this day you shall be with me in paradise." Luke 23:43. However, "Pilate marveled that Jesus was already dead." Mark 15:42-44 So they did not die the same day. If you change the comma, there is a new meaning. "I say to you this day, you shall be with me in paradise." And where is paradise (garden)? Did Jesus bunge jump to heaven and back? Did he receive his kingdom while he was dead?
Clarification: it wasn't three days, it was the "third day" ... Friday afternoon to early Sunday morning is less than 48 hours
Given that there are no comas in the original text, they have been inserted to help us understand the verse. However read this passage with the "coma" moved after instead of before Jesus's answer would read ‘I tell you the truth today, you will be with me in paradise’”. If that might be saying I tell you today (right now, if you will) that the repentant thief would be with Him in His Kingdom. That view might be more in line given He tells Mary to not hold on to Him as He had not ascended to His Father. Food for thought given He is the first fruit how would the their assend before He ascends to the Father.
Jesus Christ’s Spirit body went into the Spirit World where He taught the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Very helpful overview of relevant Scriptures, and I believe your conclusions are correct: the essence of hell is the ABSENCE OF GOD, which Jesus experienced during his crucifixion; one possible argument is that the PLACE hell - the place of eternal suffering - will not become reality until AFTER the Judgment - the lake of fire in Revelation. It is obvious that unredeemed spirits after physical death will experience suffering of some sort, which will be hell-like in nature - essentially separated from God when his presence would be the ONLY thing that is desired.
This makes me confused because I thought hell is only reserved for judgement day, and the fallen angels weren't imprisoned in hell but were imprisoned in the abyss.
Revelation 20:14: And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Hades/Hell is a holding place of torment under our feet (same with paradise unlike what this video says). The lake of fire is a completely different place and is where all evil doers will be cast on Judgement day. Satan, his angels, Death itself, and Hell (along with its inhabitants) will be cast there.
And yes, the fallen angels are in Tartarus which is separate from hell.
@@bcamplite621 That's only your beliefs. That's all
@@breadandcircus1 all bible interpretation is 'only your beliefs' and is by definition subjective. What's your point?
God says when we die we either go to Heaven where all the Righteous go and those that weren't saved go to hell.after 1000 years all will stand for God for all the sins in their lives then will be thrown into fire and brimstone. Call upon him while you can .
I was reborn again in 1978 I gave my only begotten son that I loved the world that much then he loved the world that much she gave His only begotten son JesusI am the son of the most high God Jesus Christ
Grammar, Mr. Messiah.
So. ALL PRAISES AND WORSHIP AND THANKSGIVING BE UNTO our
GOD THE FATHER; our
GOD THE SON; our
GOD AND VERY BEST FRIEND
THE HOLY SPIRIT
AND
THEY 3-IN-1.
WHERE WAS THE LORD JESUS DURING THOSE 3 DAYS?
HE WAS EVERYWHERE AT THE SAME TIME.
We know this because HE WAS, IS AND WILL ALWAYS BE, OMNIPRESENT.
Nuff said.
SHALOM.
“He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him.”
Colossians 2:15 ESV
I think this scripture has something to do with Jesus’s kingly acclamatory procession in hell.
“Today thou shalt be with me in paradise”. Paradise, meaning world of spirits. It couldn’t be “heaven” yet, because the judgement hadn’t yet taken place. Christ’s body was in the tomb, but His spirit still existed, it’s eternal, and each of us also have a spirit within us that’s eternal. Peter told us where He went in spirit: to preach to the spirits in “prison”, meaning a prison like place in the spirit world. No one had been resurrected yet, because Christ hadn’t been, and He’s the first fruits of the resurrection. What is resurrection? The rejoining of the spirit and the body, never again to be separated. When He told Mary not to touch him, He had just reunited His spirit to His now immortal body, and hadn’t yet presented Himself to the Father after triumphing over death and hell. Later, after he had ascended to the Father, he appeared to the apostles and disciples and told them to handle Him and see, “for a spirit hath not flesh and bones as ye see me have”. It’s all pretty simple, and shows the amazing love that Christ and the Father have for each of us, and how little we understand about their plan for us, but we know that infinite possibilities await us because of their grace.
Our Savior went tl Limbo first to lead the believes to heaven, and to pardon the souls in purgatory out for they were forgiven by his death.
Jesus Himself said he would be in the grave those three days and three nights. He Himself said that HE WAS DEAD. I believe what He said.
Hallelujah
No one should even argue over where Jesus was during those 3 days.
People need to only focus on diligently serving God by spreading His message of salvage and praying for those people that God will shine His mercy upon them.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever put their faith in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Ephesian 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not by works, so that no one can boast.
James 2:14-26
14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: show me thy faith without thy works, and I will show thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
MY question is ---- if like the Bible said it was Pontius Pilate and his solders who had Jesus arrested and nailed to the cross ,where in the Bible does Pontius Pilate say he had Jesus killed
for our sins ?
When jesus died and was dead for three days he came alive when he was resurrected by almighty God YHWH he had not gone to heaven yet because he said dont touch me I haven't ascended into heaven yet
@@antichrist_revealed Yip, I often think people try to make up all sorts of theories just to confuse people. Revelations warns, don't be deceived.
It also depends on how you interpret "today I tell you, you will be with me in Paradise". Was the thief told "today"? it would happen? or that he was told THAT DAY.?.today, I tell you..???
He was in Paradise
Jesus was dead for three days he went no where!! death is the absence of life not a different form of life , the dead are unconscious, not aware, not alive, this is the trick Satan has fooled generations with thinking they believe in the death burial and resurrection all the time having a skewed twisted idea on what death is , and thus not believing , Jesus was dead! the father had his spirit and resurrected him from death not paradise,
Note the Word - formerly were disobedient:
by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison,
who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water.
I wish people would read their Bibles. So you are telling me that paradise is heaven? Isn’t Paradise also known as Abraham‘s bosom?
Thanks for your comments concerning the three days of Jesus in the grave. However, in John 20:17 Jesus in speaking to Mary, says "touch me not for I am not yet ascended to my Father..." This would imply that Jesus had not been in heaven (in the flesh and spirit) or that paradise is a separate place than heaven as promised to the thief on the cross. The story of Lazarus can also be referenced (Abraham's bosom) as paradise and not heaven. Where was Abraham and the prophets (who appeared in conference with Jesus in the garden as His apostles watched and ask to build an alter) if not in paradise?
Jesus says in Matthew 12: 39 to 40, " for as Jonah was in the belly of the Great fish, SO I, the SON of MAN , will be in the HEART of the EARTH for 3 days and nights"". Sorry you have to explain that.
When Lazarus was dead for 4 days where was his spirit or soul is this question answered in scripture ?
Yes! The dead cease to exist as God decreed (Genesis 3:19, Ecclesiastes 9:10).
If Lazarus had any experience after dying he would have mentioned it.
(Psalm 146:3, 4) Do not put your trust in princes Nor in a son of man, who cannot bring salvation. 4 His spirit goes out, he returns to the ground; On that very day his thoughts perish.
The spirit going out is similar to saying that the fire went out. No trip taking. Just a ceasing to exist.
Jesus Christ become holly spirit because his 3 in One.
What Bible translation do you use
When did HE bore GODs wrath on our behalf??
More important question ...where did he go for the week after he reappeared for one visit then left again for a week? a WEEK?
JOHN 20 : 19-26
Is there a name given for these 3 days.
Jesus descendit ad inferos 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
What can you make of this then? 1 Peter 4:6, KJV: For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.
Scripture says our Lord and savior Jesus Christ was 3days and 3nights in the heart of the earth you know why to set those who did not know him free from captivity remember when he died some resurrected from the dead amen 🙏👍✅
And a stupid story because those who were resurrected would still be walking around if you want
further proof go look for all those Earthquake split tombs they would be a shrine necropolis outside Jerusalem,
they don't exist either.
Silly! That’s where! Cheers!!
A better question: Where was Jesus after His resurrection until Mary M saw Him ?
There's a lot of grey area not touched on that contradicts the answers discussed in this segment, How so ? Remember how Jesus told the sinner he would see him in paradise that very day ? If Jesus went to hell for 3 days, he wouldn't have seen the sinner that very day in hell right? But, if Jesus and the sinner went to heaven that very day, then why did he tell the apostles he appeared to 3 days later after his resurrection not to touch him because, he had not yet ascended to his father? ... See the grey area now?
I always imagined he guided the thief on the cross thru Sheol to the Bosom of Abraham to rest until the Resurrection
Correct me if I’m wrong, Jesus died on Wednesday in the middle of Passover, Mary Joseph asked for his body to be lowered down to them, nothing could be done on Thursday but, he was placed in his tomb on Friday,on Sunday when Mary and Joseph went to the tomb to bring the essence and oils he was resurrection,,he was never embalmed
It seems that he died on Wednesday, and was in tune before sunset. Quickly… Without the proper burial preparations. That night, in the next day were a Sabbath day… As they were the first day of Passover. That week had 2 sabbaths in it. They didn’t finally go to the tomb until Sunday morning with their spices in order to properly prepare the body. Because there was some issue with them being able to purchase the necessary ingredients.
How could Yahshua have risen to paradise when in John 20:17
17 Jesus *said to her, “Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brothers and say to them, ‘I ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.’”
All creations
Everything that happened to Jesus happened to me it's almost like I am the son of the most high God Jesus Christ I can prove it
BS
The real question is what Jesus taught the apostles for 40 days after his resurrection which scripture does not elaborate on.
As valuable as scripture is, there is a void for what he taught the apostles during that time. John even says that they excluded much. So where do you go to find out what was taught in those important days about the kingdom of heaven.