How to fully upgrade your RC Car! WLtoys 12402-A Brushless, Oil Shocks, Big Servo!
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- Fully upgraded the WLtoys 12402-A desert buggy! 3900KV Brushless Motor, 60A ESC, 20kg Servo, Big Oil Shocks! Trying it on 2s Lipo, and it's rapid!
Truck:
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Servo:
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Motor Combo:
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Oil Shocks:
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Decent Cheap Transmitter:
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So this thing was very impressive! It took 2s like a champ! No issues! I didn't want to take it to hard at the skatepark as I want to test this out in the dry! But Over 50km/h is a really good speed for 2s! I think we can get close to 70km/h (43mph) on 3s Lipo!
One of the best value RC Cars out there at the moment. So many cheap RC cars to choose from, and this is certainly in my Top 10 RC Cars 2019. 3s Run next!
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4:01 "little bit of persuasion with the bottom" that's what I always say to her, but she has none of it! 🤣
oh...suits you sir!
@@TomleyRC you see. I left a comment saying that you Both have 1 thing in common. I am really happy that you have sorted things out. Good Job to both of you. Ps life's to short man, you never know what is around the corner. But this has made me feel happy..💯
That was a great episode!
Your driving skills are awesome and I'm glad you took it easy at the skatepark.
TH-cam recommended it for me but I didn't realize it was a year old. The upgrade, the grass, the parking lot and the skatepark, you got everything in one video!!!
Love your channel! (You don't get on my nerves like the other channels).
Thanks Marc, appreciate the support. I like to keep my channel as normal as possible... ie.. if you met me in the street, I'd be no different than I am on camera 😎👌
Cheers for the video, that was very useful. I've added the ZD Racing shocks (after ordering some way too small!) and it handles so much better and is worth it for this cool car. And I opened up the car and fixed a problem of loud rattling, which was caused by dirt or gravel in the gears. Thanks to your vid I plucked up the courage to try and fix it myself. I'd love to be able to do brushless upgrades etc in the future, thanks for getting me started with tinkering.
This was the first video of your I watched, amd has inspired me to buy cheap and built it better. I love to tinker so all my RC's are used, and are all highly modified. Thanks tomley for the inspiration. I hope I'll be able to show off some of my stuff on you tube one day. Keep up the great content, amd I'll keep watchin! Cheers!
Thanks mate. Appreciate the support 😎
Wow what a performer. Your upgrades brought that thing to life
This was a satisfying video to watch - I really wanted to see this great looking vehicle kitted out to full hobby-grade spec, and you did it so economically!
This would now be a great little truck to take on a beach holiday or to keep in the back of the cr for taking advantage of unexpected RC opportunities!
Cheers Del. I think some Sand/Snow paddles would be good! That gives me an idea!
This was my top teach video for my 12402A
I really like this thing! This doesn't have the metal A arms that the 104009 has. In my opinion, that is a PLUS. The 104009 body is pretty sweet though. That can always be bought later.
Awesome job, dude! 😃
It's looking much better now!!!
Great bashing as well! 😃
Cheers dude.
I modified mine almost exactly the way you did, down to the blue shocks!
I used a 4300kv motor, 40amp esc/receiver combo and a 2s lipo.
On 3s mine is explosive, almost violent!
You can check out my 12402-A update on my TH-cam channel 👍
Yes I saw that the other day. How has the nylon pinion held up?
@@TomleyRC No problem at all! It's the first time I used a nylon motor pinion (and no grub screw!) on a brushless conversion - especially on a 3650 - so yeah, pleasantly surprised!
Thanks for shocks
Just for you to know, racerstar also make a 120 amps version of the brushless combo, for 50-70$, and can take 6s.
Also would love to see like the wltoys 144001 with this combo
6s!!! haha, can you imagine!
@@TomleyRC watch on TH-cam (racerstar 120a esc), and you will see ^^
Bought 2 thank you for the video.
That's looking nice gov!! It wouldn't have been easy to handle if you put a 540 in there, good job on the Goolrc setup, it's good for the $ coin. I was surprised you walked outta there stepson in hand and not BROKEN!!..👍 Nice upgrade all around, those shocks though...awesome!💯
Cheers dude. It;'s a decent budget set up! Needs better tyres, and thinner shock oil...but seems to handle the extra power!
Oh man! You're definitely gonna destroy the spurs gear!
I think 3s may do yes! Seems ok so far, had 2 packs through it now.
Thanks! Looks like a nice set of upgrades 💯👍🏻👍🏻
More to come from this 👌
Just ordered the shocks thanks
No worries Robert
Finally ordered one today
can probably program the esc too a softer start punch as well, like 30% is easily sparing this unless you get gravel in there.
Yes, i have a program card actually. Softer start for sure...keep the gears safe lol
might be springs a little long giving too much pre-load for the light chassis? done it to quite a few RC's, cutting 1 or 1.5 turns and flattening the new ends with 2 pair needle nose. pretty easy to make them good, just look and think as you go bending+flexing them into shape. lighter oil wont help if there's too much spring to start with. I do like some softness, if it sits about 3/16" low under its own weight it's "there" with a little negative suspension travel to help keep it stable, not stiff staying dead flat spinning out. if you're going to go bashing and launching just run the spring collars down 1/8" to have the stiffness back, no harm done.
Yeah, possibly the springs need modding or changing. The oil in the 'Vampire Ghost' ones from factory was more like Diff oil! so that made a big difference changing that over.
Love all the videos.And tnks for doing this video
Keep up the great cids
You're welcome dude
Good to see videos like this.. very useful for newbies ;) Thanks!
No problem mate
I am in love with these shocks
very cool my friend nice mods👍😎👊😊🇬🇧
Cheers dude
Nice upgrade bro! 😎👍
Nice vídeo! I recently buy this car and is very cool, thanks!
Glue gun the bottom door then cut out battery box. Now you will have room for larger battery. I put xlf tires on the d7
I changed the motor gear from 19T to 17T, but I could observe the gap between the great gear reducer and the teeth. The reason is that the diameter of 17T is smaller than 19T. Is there any way to solve this problem? When a large torque is applied, there seems to be a risk of the teeth slipping.
Great video n that thing is sweet....but whats up with that lil red crawler looking thingy....
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@@TomleyRC that thing is awesome
This is nice
Thank you
@@TomleyRC are you planing on getting some more vrx cars
Sweet project dude! Haven't seen specs on wheel hexes... Love the platform hate the tires. Are they 12mm? If not can 12mm hexes be adapted??? Ty for your help👍
... Great channel mang!
Cheers dude. 12mm Hex’s 👍🏻
@@TomleyRC ... One more question and I'll stop buggin ya... Where to get parts? No mention of this vehicle on wltoys site? Want to pull trigger but don't want to buy 2 trucks to have spare parts. Ty again for your time
how long you can play the RC after upgrading the components?
Thanks for share!! To my personal collection. Thank you a lot!!
No probs :)
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Great video. Did you use the same plastic reduction gear with this brushless upgrade. I usually try to find a metal reduction gear but so far I am unable to find one for the 12402a . If you used a metal reduction gear could you please tell me where to find it and how many tooth motor gear did you use or did you use the stock.Thank you in advance Doug
Great informative video 👍
Thanks Paul
How do you source your parts ? Just look for the right scale ? Nice vid as allways btw
I personaly use banggood
Ebay/Bangood etc... I measured the stock shocks so I knew what size to get. And the Motor is a standard 540 sized one. It's usually in the '1/10' category
Thanks for the video. It actually persuaded me to buy this rc *and* do the upgrade. I'm a bit new with these though, so I don't have all the tools. In particular, the hex driver for the pinion set screw. Do you know what size hex driver is needed? Also, where I can source (or how to tell the specs) on the pinion, to find another if needed?
P.S. It looks like you tore the motor mount out of there! There seems like a real possibility of cracking the plastic body in doing so. It wasn't much harder to remove the 4 screws on the bottom to take the rear axle/wheels off...for anyone who doesn't know better (like me!).
Yes, I was a bit 'tough' on the motor change, I'm to inpatient sometimes. The Pinion grub screws are usually 1.5mm Hex...
Gonna do same to mine, but I can wheelie with a 2s hosim 2000mah lipo with burushed motor
Great review, just ordered my first RC being this 12402-A - dumb questions it come with stock Li-ion, which brand model 2S lipo battery do you recommend? Also if I just want to increase power/speed can I just go the Racerstar 3650 Sensorless Brushless Waterproof Motor 60A ESC For 1/10 Monster Truck Truggy Cars - 3900KV on it's own and does it easily swap over without extra bits and mods? Do I need to upgrade the servo?
I use Nano-Tech 2s Lipos, but with this it's worth measuring the battery compartment as I think it's quite small. As long as the motor is a 540 size (3650) then you should be ok... just don't go too crazy or you might break something!
@@TomleyRC Thanks also do I have to upgrade the transmitter/receiver if I just replace the motor and ESC?
Check amazon there is a hosim 2000mh lipo it fits perfect
That was cool as sh t!
You need a new controller for brushless?? I love my 12402a but the front shafts do break a lot due to extreme angle
Loved this car so much I bought it. As we are in quarantine here in the states I needed another excuse to get out of the house. So viola. I am new to RC cars and the battery life on the model that came is 10-15 min tops then we have to go inside again ;( I want to rip around all day but cant seem to figure out the max size battery i can jam into this beast so we can run it for hours. I ordered more of the batteries it came with but again they only run 10-15 min. Any way you can help me out with battery options? Thanks hope you are well.
I have rebuilt everything just like you but my RC drives very, very slowly. What is the Problem?
Sounds like the mesh might be tight on the motor/spur… try taking the motor out and see if it rolls freely
@@TomleyRC thanks i will try it
Sorry, but I missed exactly what you did when the throttle was jittery. It was something about the front arms. I couldn't see nor understand what you did.
You've had this a while and I'm wondering about the diffs and gearing. WLToys threw in terrible powdered metal gears to compensate for the plastic ones they used to give you, and they didn't even replace all of the gears!! . Guys are complaining about premature wear with the stock motor let alone brushless or even 3S. "Upgrade" gears aren't necessarily any better. Maybe you have experience with other, expensive vehicles that might have whole gearboxes or at least good diffs and output gears that might swap in. This is no small problem; it affects ALL WLToys vehicles!!!!!
Near the Front and Rear diff is a hole for a screw to be driven into that will lower the ride height. It pushes against the small chassis wings right under the Diff and suspension arms.
Could you provide a link to the pinion gear that was used?
Hallo,
Very nice video…
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Very good that you have showed the motor-mount, also.
Looks like some sort of nylon, but exactly like you say an aluminium one would be great: not being affected, getting softened by the motor heat, better stability and gear precision and additional heatsink function to get heat away from the motor…
Does anybody know if there is an upgrade aluminium motor-mount for this model-series…?
🤔😉🧐
Many Thanks and keep on having FUN,
🍀
Thorsten
yeah even after 1year no upgrade for this motor mount yet, a 2 off model"12402 and 104009 unique part. still a great rc after shock upgrades in my opinion.
Question, is a 2,000kv motor more powerful than a 3,000kv motor? Cheers
Well... it depends what you mean by more power. 3000kv is faster...but it's all down to size and torque at the end of the day. My Losi DBXLE has a 800kv motor, and that would destroy this thing ;)
Tomley RC Garage thanks!
I’ve got an outlaw with a 2950kv motor in it and it rips!
its RPM's per 1 volt applied, with lower kv usually delivering more torque.
another spec to look to is how many watts it'll really handle, 748W equivalent to about 1 HP. rule of thumb, if a motor is staying really cool you can increase the size of the pinion gear, if its really warm you need a smaller one immediately!
Doesn't the stock setup support 3s, and doesn't it do the same speeds that you get with brushless combo? If so, why not just change the servo and shocks and keep the stock motor?
Yes, i think the newer wLtoys ESC's do take 3s, and with the 550 motor you may get the same speeds. So you are probably right. But with a Brushless you get more run time, and harder acceleration
What's wrong with none oil filled shocks I don't understand?
non oil filled are very bouncy and upset the handling
I put Redcat Dukono tires on mine
nice upgrades. are they stock tyres? they look a bit plasticy. maybe a change of tyres for more grip?.
Cheers dude. Yes, needs softer tyres
I’d like to see it with softer and bigger tyres and maybe bigger socks... did you think you can do another great video in a dry skatepark. You’re very inspiring
I've just purchased one of thease tricks could you tell me of the front amd rear shocks are the same size and could I put a bigger battery in for longer run time thanks dan
Eu vou comprar um e quero saber se as peça do carro são praticamente as mesmas q a do wltoys 12428 ?
Does anyone happen to know the pitch on the spur and pinion?
Sorry if someone already asked this, I looked through the comments and didn't see anything.
Pinion is 19 Tooth and 32 Pitch (3.175mm bore). Spur is 54 Tooth.
@@jaybeetube3333 Hallo,
Are you sure that it actually is 32 pitch…?
Since it is an Asian manufacturer it could be more likely 0,8 module…
🤔
Both, 32 pitch and 0,8 module, are very close to each other, but not completely the same.
Many times, it works quite good combining 32 pitch and 0,8 module, but most perfect would be to use exactly the right, same module…
Many Thanks and keep on having FUN,
🍀
Thorsten
HalliHallo,
Now, since I have raced the truck for a weekend at a track, I can confirm that the spur- and pinion gear are metric M0,8.
I had to change gearing for the track, used Tamiya M0,8 pinions and the truck was running absolutely smooth and without any "gearing noise"….so, the gearing mode must be OK, so it is M0,8…
Keep on having a good RC FUN time,
Thorsten
🌞😎
change you battrey bro to 3s lipo.. if you want to more fast..
friend what is the exact description of the shock absorbers, size and diameter? for me to buy and come correct.
When it was stock did you have any problems with the buggy cutting out? Great video thanks 👍
No, seemed fine stock
Which 2S Lipo fits in Battery Slot? I cant find a 2S Lipo that fits ell in the Battery Slot Wltoys XK 12402-A D7.
Most 2S Lipos are too long for battery Slot. What do i wrong? Mine
Wltoys XK 12402-A D7 has the 550 Motor. can the 550 be used with more than 7,4V?
Wondering this also, which particular 2s battery brand/model is best fit?
THIS is question i was asking before i bought this beast..short answer is..113mm long x 41mm wide x 25mm deep due to sloping shape of battery door max deep is on one side but opposite side can take 30mm deep, so in theory if battery is max 35mm wide it should fit around the reinforced sloping compartment door internally..
takes a wl toys lipo 2200mah 25c 2s "from 124019" EASY which is 103x35x16mm..Remember you need room for the wires a little so you lose length available..
my future plan is for a brand cnhl 3s/40c/2200mah with brushless but was too deep because of battery door sloping but might fit if i shave some plastic of support of door "roundness off" that battery is 111mm x 30 x 27mm deep..12402-A D7 is fun to tinker with all rc cost money on parts and upgrades aliexpress/bangood is your friend but expect to wait 2-3weeks each time for parts..
advise/opinion if you want to jump with this the it will not last long, things will start ripping out and bending plastics parts like control arms and screws torn out of plastic, my opinion only..i like to just drive around backyard for 12-15minutes at a time...good luck everyone..
Do you have or do you know where i can get sort-of cheap tamiya ta05 parts ???
I know tamico.de has alot of parts but its €13.50 just for shipping...
Do you use the 105mm rear shocks (7359) in front and back?
Maybe the shorter 92mm front shocks (7358) would be a better fit?
7359 front and rear.... but yes, the 7358's may be better.
Hi! Can you say please if the brushless conversion damage the shafts? Or the drivetrain? Thanks, regards
wow! dope 😎
0:18 uses a stick to get his rc back
haha...it looked worse in real life... that was a big ditch :)
nice video. quick question, since you reduced the pinion tooth from a 19T to 17T, is there an adjustment hole or space on the motor mount so to get the proper gear mesh from the smaller pinion to the spur gear? THanks
does this apply to 12404 as well? It seems to be pretty much the same caer
Can I use 3s lipo for this????
Yes... but not sure how long the gears will last!
Is it same oil shocks rear and front?
I'm surprised you didn't upgrade to metal gears
Seems ok without them
Sehr cool 👌 😁 👍
very nice and fast, which battery did you associate with this belide?
I can't remember, I think it was out of my ZD Racing MT16
Hey guys, what kind of power screwdriver/drill can I get to get those pesky undercarriage screws out? I've tried hand screwdrivers and they're so tight they strip the screws
Hi Tom, I am just curious if I can upgrade its 550 motor with 540vz. Thanks in advance:)
I have the same car, but the motor does not move. When I hit the remote, it only moves direction, but motor just make a little noise but has no move. I have tried with different motors and a new exact remote transmitter. What could happen?
12402a why do you turn it off? on the go? can it have to do with the condition of the battery?
All I want to know if is those shocks fit on the Tenton clone or they are too big. As that would make a great upgrade. Thanks in advance
Way to big dude
Love what you did with it. How do you know what controller to use with a conversion like this ?
Any 2.4ghz transmitter will work, as long as you have the matched receiver. I have put an link in the description as an example
@@TomleyRC I am new to RC. How do you match a receiver to a controller?
Hello and thank you for your video. I have a Wltoys 12402-A with a 18650 battery of 1500mah. I would like to change the battery for more capacity. Do you think I can put a lipo instead? There would be no problem with the cutoff or it is better that I stay on a lithium-ion (18650). Isn't lipo better for discharge? Thank you so much.
You should be ok with a Lipo.
can i know maximum battery s after upgrade
Please help me. I want a bigger better battery then the one that come with the car but I can't find one that fits in the little battery tray under the car. It's not fun only driving this thing for 5 mins and back to the charger
The only thing I can suggest is to measure the battery tray and have a search on ebay etc... that's what I usually do
Tough one
Did you buy 2 sets of the same shock listed in the link?
Yes
hello..I'm is your subcriber too.. can I ask about the wltoys D7 racing 12402A... if it has been a long time since I played the rc even though the battery is fully charged and the remote battery is also new.. why is it not working? before i left it it was working fine.. just because i haven't played for a long time for 1 month, now when i want to play it is not working.. what should i do? how to calibrate the original esc brush? do you know how can help me?
Which would u pick between this and the zd racing Mt 16 brushless rocket.
Hi, I am buying this one, so you know the maximum size of 3s batteries we can use with it?
Hi great video can you tell me what the dimensions of the battery compartment are? which dimensions fit in as a battery?
THIS is question i was asking before i bought this beast..short answer is..113mm long x 41mm wide x 25mm deep due to sloping shape of battery door max deep is on one side but opposite side can take 30mm deep, so in theory if battery is max 35mm wide it should fit around the reinforced sloping compartment door internally..
takes a wl toys lipo 2200mah 25c 2s "from 124019" EASY which is 103x35x16mm..Remember you need room for the wires a little so you lose length available..
my future plan is for a brand cnhl 3s/40c/2200mah with brushless but was too deep because of battery door sloping but might fit if i shave some plastic of support of door "roundness off" that battery is 111mm x 30 x 27mm deep..12402-A D7 is fun to tinker with all rc cost money on parts and upgrades aliexpress/bangood is your friend but expect to wait 2-3weeks each time for parts..
advise/opinion if you want to jump with this the it will not last long, things will start ripping out and bending plastics parts like control arms and screws torn out of plastic, my opinion only..i like to just drive around backyard for 12-15minutes at a time...good luck everyone..
With this upgrade, we can run longer? Tq
Tg did you find that the body covers the wheelie bar
No, seems ok
@@TomleyRC must just be mine then dont you find the body posts very flimsy
Hey mate, do you know if there's a sound kit out there that will plug n play with this model? Thanx!
Not sure mate.
@@TomleyRC Thanx for replying!
would a 45A ESC for a 3100kv motor do? I'm confused how much 'A' an ESC needs in combination with a motor
Should be ok... but the higher 'A' the better.
Tomley RC i’ll try. If it blows up, i Will comment again :)
Great upgrade. Just ordered those shock given in your video description. But the question is: Does that zd racing metal shock compatible with the 12402-A? Has the height increased or decreased after installing these shocks? since official metal replacement shocks still not available can I use this alternative shock without any problem?
The height is a little more than stock, but not much more and works well
You can always put shock limiters inside on the shaft under the piston to limit the down travel of the shock...
what about the battery? did you change the battery too?
2s Lipo
Hi I need your help. So I got one as well. I already took off esc , motor, shock and steering servo. What parts do I need?
What steering cup replacement can fit this rc ?
Did you add that capacitor yourself? Or did it come with ESC? If you added it, where did you get it from?
No, it comes fitted 👍🏻
i have a question: is there an affidable forum=
nice but what about the HGp602....
Michael Michael I work 40hrs a week....only so much RC content I can do haha
The exact model name of the Shock absorber in the video is ZD Racing 7358.
혹시 피니언기어 어떤거쓰셧어요?
Was it 1s originally?
2s
I have the same car what I have 😎😎