Star Trek: TNG Review - 6x15 Tapestry | Reverse Angle
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 มิ.ย. 2022
- Picard is dead (not the show, the character).
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Moore, Ronald D. “Tapestry.” Star Trek: The Next Generation, created by Gene Roddenberry, Season 6, Episode 15, Paramount Television, CBS, 1993.
McTiernan, John, director. Predator. 20th Century Fox, 1987.
Manning, Richard, and Hans Beimler. “Allegiance.” Star Trek: The Next Generation, Season 3, Episode 18, Paramount Television, CBS, 1990. - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
Best episode of the series imo. Great acting by Stewart and De Lancie.
Here's a fun fact: the Nausicaans are named after the Hayao Miyazaki film Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind, which Patrick Stewart was also in.
The gradual score devide between Robert and Nick is the ongoing conflict I watch this series for.
I really have to question the practicality (and the safety) of trying to jumpstart Picard's heart by sending electric shocks DIRECTLY INTO HIS BRAIN. Imagine putting the defibrillator paddles on someone's face. "Well, his heart is beating again. Both of his eyes exploded though."
Well, it IS Beverly after all.
My all time favorite episode of TNG. Rewatched this a few years back when I was feeling down and, no kidding, it's been helping with my depression ever since. I'd recommend even non Star Trek fans to watch this, as it's a great take on appreciating what you have and realizing that no matter where you are in life, at least some good choices brought you there, and it's not all bad.
One of the greatest episodes of TNG.... hell, in all of Trek. No way this is anything other than an A or A+.
From what we know of Picard's history he doesn't sound like he had the background and was the type of person that he would need something like being stabbed in the heart to get his ass in gear.
Now in an alternate history if Barkley was stabbed in the heart and he was more daring that would be believable and cool.
Yeah, the show actually contradicts itself on this point. If Picard had never been stabbed, he would never have learned to be cautious. He would have remained a devil may care hotshot his whole career. That’s a far cry from the timid man that he becomes in this episode.
Honestly, this episode really made no sense.
That's just it though, almost everything we know about Picard's history would have been post stabbing.
@@user-do2ev2hr7h We kind of knew. Picard bucked his family and left the farm to join Starfleet. If he were that timid he would just stayed on the farm. Picard also described himself as arrogant and hotheaded during his cadet days. So it doesn't really make sense he would completely change into someone more timid.
What would have been more realistic, Picard not experiencing being stabbed, never learned to examine all points of view and all options and instead he stayed hotheaded and always acted impulsively and his recklessness ended up causing some tragedy (aka Ensign Ro or Tom Paris).
So when he returned to the "present", he finds himself either in jail for gross negligence, back at the farm because he was kicked out of Starfleet, or he could still be the Lieutenant we saw, but he never advanced because he is hated and now a broken man over the incident he caused.
@@qam2024 I think that's kind of the point though. Picard avoiding the fight is so against his nature that it represents a fundamental change in his entire character. (it's also worth keeping in mind that this entire situation is at least arguably some sort of simulation on the part of Q so he may be putting his finger on the scale, so to speak, regarding Picard's alternate present.)
What would have been realy funny was if Barkley was the captain of the Enterprise!
Q having the power to resuscitate Picard or to make it seem like he’s dying is totally aligned with Q’s abilities
Q claimed Picard's historical changes wouldn't affect anyone except himself, but for some reason Troi goes back to wearing her flamboyant councilor outfit during Picard's alternate life sequence. This also implies that Captain Jellico never took command of the Enterprise and told her to wear a standard uniform during 'Chain of Command'. 🤔
I also loved this episode. This is the one for anyone who questions decisions they’ve made during their lives. It’s probably for an older audience.
I would say this was a more dangerous path for Picard given he was an extra on the ship. Though at least he wasn't wearing yellow. You never wanted a yellow uniform in these shows.
Nice pfp and name. Great to see Soul Reaver isn't completely forgotten.
@@asahearts1 Yeah love RAziel and Kain. Great characters.
I'm with Nick here. This is one of my personal favourites. Though I don't think any explanation of the conflict is useful nor required. It's just something in the background that sets up the narrative.
Picard waking next to Q is probably the funniest thing ever on Trek. Q: "Morning, darling." *awkward* and "Is there a John Luck Pickard here?" 🤣
I really like this episode. The Q and Picard banter is, as always, outstanding. Both De Lancie and Stewart pull this off so well, in lesser hands, this might not have worked. I liked knowing a bit more about Picard's back story. A-
This episode was way better than that.
5:00 John Luck Pickerd is the funniest thing this season outta tng. Funnier than anything after Enterprise that's for sure
The Nausicaans were the best part of the episode! "Coward! Like all Starfleet, you talk and you talk, but you have no grandma!"
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I agree with Nick. It was a good episode. It fleshes out more the idea of Picard having the artificial heart, which, you did not mention, was first brought up in the episode "Samaritan Snare". I do agree it would have been better if they did a Quantum thing, like someone of lesser rank being in charge. But a Quantum thing is done in a later series 7 episode called "Parallels". This episode, "Tapestry" was good. It would have been nice, though, to have heard some of Picard's stories that he was starting to tell at the end.
A- for me.
Barclay barking orders at alternate Picard would’ve been hilarious. I sorta liked this episode. Kinda like a personal butterfly effect but with a knife thru the heart instead of a butterfly wing flap.
Note that La Forge is onto Picard about where that report was but at the same time La Forge is meant to be heading to the captain's ready room so it seems unlikely he would be wanting right there and then.
I agree with Nick more think this episode was a good one.
Of course they are going to do this with Picard, he is the main character. Its important to get to know who he is, and why is he the way he is.
Its also a message for the audience "Your past makes you who you are today". You cant take out important events from your formative years and be left the same person. We are the sum of our teachings and experiences.
I also quite like that its certainly possible that the entire episode was about Q saving Picard. Simply being stabbed half an inch in a different direction could be the difference between him surviving beverli's abysmal medical care or not.
I also liked how they never tell us if it was real leaving that up to debate
I'm not sure sometimes if these are actual laughs or insert laughs you guys have, they sound so familiar
'Felt kinda dragged out' was not something I was expecting to hear when talking about this episode. I enjoyed any chance we got to get into Picard's backstory. This also had character development for Q, turning him from the Hanging Judge in Farpoint to a far more sympathetic character. He's not merely agitating Picard for no reason, he's trying to help humanities growth. I guess that Q decided that Picard dying that day was not good for the future of humanity, so Dr Crusher all of the sudden comes up with a mysterious solution at the end of the episode. Well, I think Q made Picard go from critical to stable, but at least he got to teach him a lesson about regretting mistakes made in youth, which unfortunately gets dragged up again in Picard S2.
Also, I don't care that Picard just got 'Inner Light', an episode I like a lot less than this one. Stewart was the best actor on the show, of course he's going to get screen-time. You don't see the rest of the crew's IMDB pages showing them in much post TNG. Almost all good TNG episodes revolve around PS in some way with a couple of exceptions. The side characters, honestly, I couldn't care less. Their performances were fine, but they didn't detract from the storyline. Picard is supposed to be older than the crew, so of course you aren't going to see him interacting with a 10 year old Worf or a teen-aged Beverly. I think this is one of the top episodes of the show's run, not the best but top 10 for sure. Solid A to A- for me.
This is a really good episode IMO, top 20. The ideas are very interesting and very well done. An episode can stand on its own as its own story. I agree with the A- rating
He has a alternate universe child.
This makes me wonder how many people in their galaxy are walking around with memories of entirely different timelines. They should have an episode where Picard gets captured and the ship is in trouble, but some rando moisture farmer says he lived an alternate timeline where he was captain and knows how to save the day. Have a B plot where his friend changed timelines with him and used to be married to Troi in the other timeline, but she doesn't know it. The friend regrets leaving her and seems to know everything about her which comes off as creepy as he attempts to woo her in this timeline.
There were a few elements that did come up again in Star Trek: Picard - Marta Batanides was mentioned in season 1, and a younger Maurice Picard showed up during season 2.
For that note you made about Barkley being in command it would have been hilarious if he was like an Admiral or something
to give this episode a C- ....why are you even reviewing a show you clearly hate. this is an A+ episode. Come on, are you just trolling us.
I love Star Trek and I hate this episode. It's not Picard. They want Picard to have been a rebel, but that is so far from his personality that it is laughable.
@@anne-zh2kd ...did you miss that Season 2 episode where Picard talks about this incident?
I remember this as a good episode but I think the writers started leaning to heavily on Patrick Stewart. I also would have liked to see a confident Barkley ordering him around (maybe his section head- not as captain tho captain would have been funny). Or if they had the chain of command actors as the captain (film ahead a few scenes while making chain of command).
Ron Howard?? That's Eric Stoltz.
It's not Eric Stoltz, the actor is called Ned Vaughn.
You make a very good point about the time of the date.
Picard knew the time and weather of the cafe where he stood up his girlfrined in "We'll Always Have Paris."
This episode was a good one for me. The only parts I find stupid are the slow motion double fist fights so common in this era and the pool like game.
not nearly as common as the Star Fleet patented palm punch LOL
That Ron Howard quip got me good. I was thinking "Man! This guy looks a lot like Ron Howard." I'm glad somebody else saw the similarity and absolved me of being a ginger racist.
Is it just me, or was the TNG font _really_ not designed for people named “Clint”? Poor Clint. (At 1:05)
C+ for such episode is a blasphemy!
Great episode 👍
As always good review! I always like the witty banter.
Polarizing grades on this one. B- for me...field goal!
The primary reason for this grade is the same reason for the C+ grade, it seemed too soon for another Picard-centered episode. I think it was done well, but Picard is really carrying a lot of load in this series.
One of the commentators below made an excellent point; this would have been an excellent plot device for someone like Barclay (or Broccoli as I like to call him), but instead of not doing something, he actually does something out of the ordinary that enhances his future life significantly. I think Dwight Schultz was a good enough actor to pull that off. However, perhaps the Lawnmowerman episode was too much like what a future self-confident Barclay would have looked like. I'm rethinking that now... No, wait, how many Picard-centered episodes have we had? Screw it, it would have been refreshing to have one more Barclay-centered episode.
Anyway again, good review, good/not great episode.
Yeah this episode gave alt Picard a raw deal. Let's be honest. Life is a series of choices. That doesnt make one better than the other. So alternate Picard isnt captain but what IS he? Maybe a world where he got married and became a famous archaeologist? As I pointed out on an another review it's also a bit disingenuous of Riker and Troy to scold him for not taking risks. This is the same Riker that has pasted up (at this point) 3, yes 3, commands. As for Troy despite being a commander (at this point) she still has yet to take the command test. The bigger problem is LT Picard knows everything captain Picard does but hasn't made the mistakes. I dont think it would be hard for him to catch up.
This is my second-favorite Q episode after "Q Who." Why do this with another character when Picard's getting an artificial heart has already been established? Picard is the main character after all, much like Kirk was the main character of the original series.
I saw this based on watching a TNG montage video. Overall, I like the message and the final moment with Q and Picard, but I had some issues with elements of the story. I’ll probably rewatch it to give it another chance, but it’s still better than Inner Light, IMO.
This could have been a great two parter where he also had to deal with causing Beverly’s husband’s death along with some other ‘it’s a wonderful life’ situations.
I have relations with the missus to your opening theme. Thanks.
Those aliens that stab Picard are intimidating respect for fighting them. Surely Picard could have reset the exams to become a captain he would fly up the ranks
You talk and you talk, but you have no Grandma! (guramba)
After-Q ? ... Q-ality Heaven ? ... Another Q ?
I liked how the show threw in a new rank we've never heard on the show before "lieutenant junior grade", sounds soo weak for Picard. lol. It really hits the mark on how pathetic his career was.
Heh, when you mention you wish they had Barclay giving orders to Picard - that would have been great.
the US NAVY
has that rank
along with
CREWMAN
YEOMAN
ENSIGN
LIEUTENANT JG
LIEUTENANT
LT COMMANDER JG
LT COMMANDER
COMMANDER
CAPTAIN
plus various
ADMIRAL ranks
B for boring plausibility and a B for originality. Single character episodes are common in all types of work.
Beverly didn't save him. Q did.
Can you guys please do reverse angle reviews on some DS9 episodes?
This happens all the time.
I don't get this episode. We are told about how daring and reckless Picard was at the Academy and the minute he gets stabbed in the heart he becomes weak. I like to think that after getting stabbed Picard was in a state of despair and it was his friends who helped him out of it.
I'm guessing you haven't seen Picard yet as his heart is referenced in that show.
Anybody else prefer the older style Federation uniforms like the ones Picard was wearing as a junior officer? They're the same ones as in the film series (from Wrath of Kahn to Undisvovered Country). I can't understand why they changed the uniforms completely in just a few decades. Good episode, although the ending feels a bit simplistic.
Q doesn't require your approval. He just wants it.
This is like NPR: Car Talk except for Star Trek. It's amazing.
If Picard never became captain of the Enterprise D, then Riker shouldn't be there since Picard chose him personally.
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Remember the god-awful season 2 episode…the one with the pakleds; yeah this is where his artificial heart is mentioned again
The episode was cool but it felt a little... preachy? Maybe some of us like keeping it safe and not being told we are losers because we don't have an adventurous life. Like, sorry for being average.
Also, that girl with the black hair was HOT. I dont blame Picard for regretting not hitting that.
I dont think it is preachy: the whole episode was an ''what if'' situation, if you had the chance to go back and rectify certain mistakes before happening, would the present you be the same? Our mistakes and experiences define us so changing them would turn us into a different person, that is why Picard would turned out as a different person if he avoided the stabbing heart incident. When Picard looked at his other self he rejected it, he was just comparing to his other self. Not everyone can be Picard, and that is good. Perhaps it is good that we are unable to meet our other self if they were to exists, it would be jarring to compare ourselves with those other versions of ourselves.
@@TheOsitoRocks It is just creepy that the episode enforces toxic masculinity and making it seem like you need to be a disgusting piece of shit in your youth to be something. The younger Picard is not Picard. He is a completely different person.
I like this episode cept they should have spent a lot more time on Picard's time in the ship as a lieutenant ship carrier.
That’s not Ron Howard
lol this review gets a bad review from me.
I hated this episode. Probably more a personal problem than anything else, but yeah.
I can't stand
Q