Imagine being a kid on the Enterprise, arriving on the brand new ship being about 5-6 years old, and experiencing everything that happens on the ship over the 7 years. They could make an entire series about their therapy sessions.
4:25 so glad Troi got promoted to Commander so she can blow off commanding the ship to take a bath… 5:22 This is why Crusher got sacked from being the Head of Starfleet Medical… she identified a venom sack on Worf’s neck, then asked him to open his mouth while stood right in front of him. I can only imagine the horrors that happened because of her during Season 2… 5:36 In DS9 “Wrongs Darker Than Death or Night” Dukat heals Kira’s mum’s scar with a little gadget. This scene was set well before even this episode (during the Occupation) but yet in “Future Imperfect” Worf having a scar didn’t seem out of the ordinary to Riker, only that Worf couldn’t explain when and how he got it. 9:43 Nice touch that the fish in the ready room aquarium has been turned into a jellyfish thing. 11:16 Of course the writer doesn’t understand evolution; this is the same guy that will one day write VOY “Threshold”, the hyper evolved freaky salamander sex episode.
I love these videos. I am waiting until you finish the entire series to continue watching them, so that I can binge them. Keep them up. All of the ones I have seen so far have made me laugh.
For example, the last common ancestor of a human and a spider was some worm that lived about 1 billion years ago. They also have Riker get dumber the quickest, when he's devolving into the smartest animal, a caveman.
What religion creates dioramas that show that? I've never heard of such a thing? It would have to be a pretty damn new one considering dinosaurs essentially were discovered in the 18th century.
@@daviddiggens8841 Protestant Christianity or perhaps Evangelical Christianity. Have you ever heard of the Creation Museum in Kentucky or the Noah's Ark mock-up in Kentucky?
Just found your channel and the chemistry between you with the laughs and your fond nostalgia of the series is awesome 😂 surprised you dont bave more subscribers!
I nearly fell out of my chair when Beverly quipped about Barclay turning into a spider and having a disease named after him like she had nothing to do with any of it. People actually died because of her incompetence! She'd make a great public relations representative for Big Pharma. 🤣
She made that statement as an inside joke to Counsellor Troi. Given Barclays extreme anxiety issues, he's going to need intense therapy for THIS debacle.
The only thing that this episode didn't have was a stack of Red Shirts just piled up as victims of all of the "de-volved" creatures. Although, the guy on the bridge was a nice touch. Otherwise, I love this one!
Troi is a trek vixen 💯 they knew what they were doing to the teenage boys they've been doing it since the OG series, Torres, seven of nine and Jadzia dax are all candidates 😅
This is the first video posted since I started watching. I put them on more or less randomly two or three at a time, then kind of listen while doing something else. It's a lot like how TNG was supposed to be watched
Data should have de evolved into a toaster, would have made as much sense as everything else. Just imagine a scene where 2 pieces of toast pop out of the top of his head.
I wonder if Geordi de-evolved into one of those laser-tag things from Identity Crisis, because notice that he and Beverly don't really appear after the Enterprise goes into spooky mode
This reminds me of the doctor who episode where Mark Gatiss turns into a sort of giant crab or something. They also said it was because it was in his DNA for some reason
11:41 The fact that all humanoids originated from an alien race was established in the TOS episode The Paradise Syndrome. That race was called the Preservers.
Maybe Picard didn't call Starfleet because it would make him look bad if he had to call for help. I could only imagine the Starfleet Admirals criticizing Picard.
Guess the writers have to be blamed for the nonsense that was this episode! I agree should have been more of Spider Barclay!! Sad that you are almost done with the series! I have enjoyed your unique view of one of my favorite shows from the old days!! Thanks for the laughs!
11:40 Not quite a common ancestor since they stated in the episode that the old empire merely seeded all the planets. Which can interpreted many ways of course. I don't mind inconsistencies in genetics since even modern times understanding of it is terrible.
No mention of all the kids on the ship either, who were all either eaten by their devolved parents or are now suffering from a shit ton of PTSD. Unfortunately, they’ll all have to talk it through with Troi, so they’ll probably end up joining the Borg or something…
This is one of those episodes that if it had happened to another ship it would have been a derelict for the enterprise to find long after the crew had eaten each other with only a hand full of survivors saved right before the warp core explodes, with the rest of the episode showing the enterprise crew trying to cure to poor bastards only to find in the end that the surviving crew wished they’d rather been killed than live with what happened.
I've watched all this channels reviews and I've bit my tongue but they are way out to lunch on this one. It's some good ol sci-fi fun and I've always loved it.
I've watched all your videos, and never have ever responded on TH-cam. But I found it very important to point out that you guys repeatedly crush Data on being VERY dangerous to the crew and ship (which is highly accurate); however, you failed to point out that in this episode, without Data the crew would've been dead.
Usually it’s the enterprise that comes upon a derelict ship that something has happened to the entire crew. Having it happen to the enterprise crew themselves and still hand waving it is insulting. I’m sure one or more of the children on board was at least attacked if not eaten, and several members of the crew were lost, possibly a very high percentage. There’s no way they just fixed this in a few days, and I’m sure there would have been a lengthy investigation.
This episode was one of my least favorite Star Trek episodes until Threshold introduced both the breaking of the warp 10 barrier and Tom Paris evolving into a post-human salamander. I’m beginning to think that, between Data and the EMH, artificial intelligence in Star fleet think that any mutation equals evolution. Also let’s have a Spider-Barkley and Cronenburg-Tom Paris action figure two pack.
Worf grew to be 200kg.. and nobody knows how to use replicators once their animalistic traits take hold. Yeah.. ..he absolutely ate some of the crew. How would you even explain that to next of kin? How about if Barclay webbed up a child and sucked out their guts because, you know; man-spider. This episode was nightmare fuel
You really did not understand "The Chase" the primodial life, early life of each world was seeded to influance life on each world towords a shape like theirs. So each world still has their own evolutary history.
Yep... Should probably have micro heated and cooled uniforms with reactive body armor too that's as thin as the cloth they already wear. They may have predicted the flip phone but they didn't foresee the included led flashlight embedded in every device.
In "The Chase" humanoids weren't stated to have a common ancestor, but to have come from planets where the life there was manipulated in some way to produce humanoids through evolutionary processes. There isn't a conflict between "The Chase" and "Genesis", although there are many, many conflicts between both episodes and known biology. That being said, "Genesis" was one of, if not my favourite episode as a kid. I tended to like the ones that have the really bad reputations these days.
The complete and utter lack of scientific expertise on the writers team has my brain devolve... gosh, the is technobabble dumb.😵💫😂 Thank you, guys. You stopped me from actually buying the entire show for nostalgia reason. Would have watched about half an episode until I couldn't put up with the brain rot anymore.💩 Back to "The Expanse". 🥰
18:14 ya.... I'd recon that out of a 1000people at least 200 would have died from this if not more. But I guess their is only so much Horror that a family friendly television show was allowed to do. Writing might be a D, but I give it a B+ for how much I enjoy watching this episode. :)
Its also just ridiculous that the prop department on being told to make a Square flashlight didnt make a suggestion "whats wrong with a normal flashlight."😂 Who here has seen a square flashlight ever? Maybe 1 in 10000😂😂😂
So where were all the 400 crew hiding when Picard and Data were wandering though the ship? I thought Barclay was a human so why did he not become a caveman or an ape? No, Barclay should have devolved into a Brocolli! That would have been perfect!
I'm working my way through your guys' series. Loving it. Great humor and you two have a great rapport. Quick question though, when you get to the end of TNG, please do an episode on Star Trek Acid Party! th-cam.com/video/BZlRt05RY9Y/w-d-xo.html
According to the episode 'All Good Things', humanity came from primordial goo. Also, the progenitor episode makes about as much sense as this "de-evolution" episode.
@@Mehwhatevr Frankly, I'm disappointed at the lack-luster lore of Star Trek. If worlds like Earth and Vulcan were seeded with artificial DNA designed to specifically evolve life into an anthropoid form, then _all_ life would be humanoid; something akin to the Bojack Horseman world.
@jC-kc4si They were running out of ideas towards end of S07 with most character arcs reaching maturity. It looks like they went all out to end it on a high though with "All Good things"...... fantastic finale!!
Data should of devolved to a Speak & Spell.
Ha!
The should of done it step by step 😂, 1st a compact super computer, then a home PC, Atari 2600, speak and tell, then calculator 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I would of gone with an abicus as Data's final form after calculator 😅
Troi's story in this episode is just ribbiting!
Worf had some spicy lines
I got Annointed with this joke. moschiach2
This episode would have been better if it panned over to data and you saw a Commodore 64 sitting there unplugged.
Imagine being a kid on the Enterprise, arriving on the brand new ship being about 5-6 years old, and experiencing everything that happens on the ship over the 7 years. They could make an entire series about their therapy sessions.
you would have been like aww wow this is amazing mom and dad
"Patrick Stewart says he's not going to dress up as a monkey."
"Okay, I guess we can have him leave the ship with Data."
4:25 so glad Troi got promoted to Commander so she can blow off commanding the ship to take a bath…
5:22 This is why Crusher got sacked from being the Head of Starfleet Medical… she identified a venom sack on Worf’s neck, then asked him to open his mouth while stood right in front of him. I can only imagine the horrors that happened because of her during Season 2…
5:36 In DS9 “Wrongs Darker Than Death or Night” Dukat heals Kira’s mum’s scar with a little gadget. This scene was set well before even this episode (during the Occupation) but yet in “Future Imperfect” Worf having a scar didn’t seem out of the ordinary to Riker, only that Worf couldn’t explain when and how he got it.
9:43 Nice touch that the fish in the ready room aquarium has been turned into a jellyfish thing.
11:16 Of course the writer doesn’t understand evolution; this is the same guy that will one day write VOY “Threshold”, the hyper evolved freaky salamander sex episode.
I didn’t notice the jellyfish. Very cool
Imagine putting both Genesis and Threshold on on your resume.
@@dycedargselderbrother5353 It’s even worse than that… he has to put “These Are The Voyages” on there too!
they have returned, as the prophecy foretold! that finale is so close i can almost taste it
Beverly should be considered a war criminal for the deaths that occurred in this episode alone, lol.
I love these videos. I am waiting until you finish the entire series to continue watching them, so that I can binge them. Keep them up. All of the ones I have seen so far have made me laugh.
soon you will be just like Cave Man Riker🤣
Having Data revert to the Macintosh that Scotty used would've been a great ending.
the Mega Drive!!!
The understanding of evolution in this episode is on par with those religious dioramas showing cavemen and dinosaurs together.
Wait till you see Dear Doctor [ENT]
For example, the last common ancestor of a human and a spider was some worm that lived about 1 billion years ago.
They also have Riker get dumber the quickest, when he's devolving into the smartest animal, a caveman.
And on par with the physics displayed in the Voyager episode, Threshold.
What religion creates dioramas that show that?
I've never heard of such a thing? It would have to be a pretty damn new one considering dinosaurs essentially were discovered in the 18th century.
@@daviddiggens8841 Protestant Christianity or perhaps Evangelical Christianity. Have you ever heard of the Creation Museum in Kentucky or the Noah's Ark mock-up in Kentucky?
It's been some time since your last TNG retro-review. Glad you are back. :)
The Original idea for this episode was for the crew to be transformed into clones of Barkley
can you imagine ten people that look like Riker running around on the enterprise?🤣
Broccoli, meet Broccoli. And this is Broccoli, and finally this is Broccoli
Just found your channel and the chemistry between you with the laughs and your fond nostalgia of the series is awesome 😂 surprised you dont bave more subscribers!
12:09 Data should have devolved into a Commodore 64.
I nearly fell out of my chair when Beverly quipped about Barclay turning into a spider and having a disease named after him like she had nothing to do with any of it. People actually died because of her incompetence! She'd make a great public relations representative for Big Pharma. 🤣
yeah I mean who in his gene pool was a spider f***er cause you know someone must have been for spider DNA to get into Barkley's gene pool🤣
She made that statement as an inside joke to Counsellor Troi. Given Barclays extreme anxiety issues, he's going to need intense therapy for THIS debacle.
" THANK YOU ,
FOR MUTATING "
The only thing that this episode didn't have was a stack of Red Shirts just piled up as victims of all of the "de-volved" creatures. Although, the guy on the bridge was a nice touch. Otherwise, I love this one!
There really should have been a stack of dead red shirts, to say nothing of all the children on the ship too.
It's season 7. They decided the were going to go out with their highest quality episodes
Finally, my dudes!
Welcome back.
I too had a crush on Troi but also had a mini-crush on Ogawa. I liked that she got some screen time in this episode.
Troi is a trek vixen 💯 they knew what they were doing to the teenage boys they've been doing it since the OG series, Torres, seven of nine and Jadzia dax are all candidates 😅
@@leonlewis9551 I think 7of9 uniform was designed specifically for the 9th grade boy demographic.
Barclay and Ogawa's animal movements and gestures when it starts happening are fantastic 😂
I loved this episode as a kid. Love spider-Barclay.
yeah but had he became spider man that would have been cooler to see him make a giant spider web in the cargo bay and all that but oh well
This is the first video posted since I started watching. I put them on more or less randomly two or three at a time, then kind of listen while doing something else. It's a lot like how TNG was supposed to be watched
This evolution is so wrong. Clearly Riker would be a Bonobo. 🍆🍆
5:34 A certain DS9 episode is the inverse of this idea, where someone assumes the identity of a criminal.
That Spider Barkley was all the stuff of nightmares.
This was the first TNG episode I saw
This episode was directed by Crusher herself Gates McFadden and the first Star Trek episode directed by a female cast member.
Data should have de evolved into a toaster, would have made as much sense as everything else. Just imagine a scene where 2 pieces of toast pop out of the top of his head.
Funny enough in Picard season 3, Crusher's reconstructive surgery from Worf's acid breath was actually mentioned in her service record.
I wonder if Geordi de-evolved into one of those laser-tag things from Identity Crisis, because notice that he and Beverly don't really appear after the Enterprise goes into spooky mode
Sometimes I wonder what the, um, GENESIS of this episode was.
This reminds me of the doctor who episode where Mark Gatiss turns into a sort of giant crab or something. They also said it was because it was in his DNA for some reason
I need a Caveman Riker action figure now...Oh, and Data's devolved form would just be a stack of those IBM Punch cards.
I missed you guys! Thanks for continuing the TNG reviews.
11:41 The fact that all humanoids originated from an alien race was established in the TOS episode The Paradise Syndrome. That race was called the Preservers.
19:53 "Better hop to it"
I hate it here
Maybe Picard didn't call Starfleet because it would make him look bad if he had to call for help. I could only imagine the Starfleet Admirals criticizing Picard.
Guess the writers have to be blamed for the nonsense that was this episode! I agree should have been more of Spider Barclay!! Sad that you are almost done with the series! I have enjoyed your unique view of one of my favorite shows from the old days!! Thanks for the laughs!
I liked this episode even if the science didn't make sense.
the computer
never needed codes
to communicate with
anything
11:40 Not quite a common ancestor since they stated in the episode that the old empire merely seeded all the planets. Which can interpreted many ways of course.
I don't mind inconsistencies in genetics since even modern times understanding of it is terrible.
SPACE WEBB MD. TURNED INTO SPIDER!
I love this episode, The science is poor, but that horror asthetic and action ending really makes me enjoy the episode.
Agreed. I like this one.
7:00 You guys cut it right before Riker made that face after he gambled on a fart and lost
Another great video! I really enjoy your comments! Keep up the great work!
Will you be doing this with Deep Space Nine and Voyager and possibly Enterprise
They really brushed off all those deaths😬 I never understood why all the humans didn’t evolve into the same things.
No mention of all the kids on the ship either, who were all either eaten by their devolved parents or are now suffering from a shit ton of PTSD. Unfortunately, they’ll all have to talk it through with Troi, so they’ll probably end up joining the Borg or something…
This is one of those episodes that if it had happened to another ship it would have been a derelict for the enterprise to find long after the crew had eaten each other with only a hand full of survivors saved right before the warp core explodes, with the rest of the episode showing the enterprise crew trying to cure to poor bastards only to find in the end that the surviving crew wished they’d rather been killed than live with what happened.
I've watched all this channels reviews and I've bit my tongue but they are way out to lunch on this one. It's some good ol sci-fi fun and I've always loved it.
It's about time! Thought you disappeared off the planet. 🙂
I learned so much science from this episode!
I've watched all your videos, and never have ever responded on TH-cam. But I found it very important to point out that you guys repeatedly crush Data on being VERY dangerous to the crew and ship (which is highly accurate); however, you failed to point out that in this episode, without Data the crew would've been dead.
This episode was amazing, so different and a little scary. They make light of the whole thing at the end.
Usually it’s the enterprise that comes upon a derelict ship that something has happened to the entire crew. Having it happen to the enterprise crew themselves and still hand waving it is insulting. I’m sure one or more of the children on board was at least attacked if not eaten, and several members of the crew were lost, possibly a very high percentage. There’s no way they just fixed this in a few days, and I’m sure there would have been a lengthy investigation.
11:40 No, they just established that all planet’s species have are programmed to have a humanoid species evolve.
5:55 I thought Riker was awesome too! But I had a crush on Beverly. When Troi started wearing the uniform then I got a crush on her too.
First, I forgot about this episode. I think I'll keep that memory free.
Second, they are clearly saving money for the big finale.
This episode was one of my least favorite Star Trek episodes until Threshold introduced both the breaking of the warp 10 barrier and Tom Paris evolving into a post-human salamander. I’m beginning to think that, between Data and the EMH, artificial intelligence in Star fleet think that any mutation equals evolution. Also let’s have a Spider-Barkley and Cronenburg-Tom Paris action figure two pack.
Worf grew to be 200kg.. and nobody knows how to use replicators once their animalistic traits take hold. Yeah..
..he absolutely ate some of the crew.
How would you even explain that to next of kin?
How about if Barclay webbed up a child and sucked out their guts because, you know; man-spider.
This episode was nightmare fuel
I think their heads would explode if they reviewed picard, especially season 2.
I love Devo and Barkley's evoloving hairine
You really did not understand "The Chase" the primodial life, early life of each world was seeded to influance life on each world towords a shape like theirs. So each world still has their own evolutary history.
If Riker was in the holodeck when he got an arse full of cactus, shouldn't the spines vanish the second he left?
Also this is in my top 5 episodes.
DEANNA'S
transforming was
RIBBITING
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This is a super hyper advanced navy with replicaters and warp drive.
But not a flashlight attachment for the tricorder, phaser, or even a head clamp.😂
Yep... Should probably have micro heated and cooled uniforms with reactive body armor too that's as thin as the cloth they already wear. They may have predicted the flip phone but they didn't foresee the included led flashlight embedded in every device.
Headlamps for work exist since coal miners 😏
Do universal translators not exist in this episode?
It would have been cool if Data turned into an old Macintosh computer.
In "The Chase" humanoids weren't stated to have a common ancestor, but to have come from planets where the life there was manipulated in some way to produce humanoids through evolutionary processes. There isn't a conflict between "The Chase" and "Genesis", although there are many, many conflicts between both episodes and known biology. That being said, "Genesis" was one of, if not my favourite episode as a kid. I tended to like the ones that have the really bad reputations these days.
Also, spiders shoot webs from their asses. Enjoy adding that to the already creepy picture of spider Barclay! :)
Ehhh it's someone's kink, I bet.
I hope you guys have something else lined up for when this show ends,
This episode could've easily paralleled the Event Horizon movie, but was severely neutered in theme and consequence.
To think Barcly was afraid of spiders.
The complete and utter lack of scientific expertise on the writers team has my brain devolve... gosh, the is technobabble dumb.😵💫😂
Thank you, guys. You stopped me from actually buying the entire show for nostalgia reason. Would have watched about half an episode until I couldn't put up with the brain rot anymore.💩
Back to "The Expanse". 🥰
8:44
Genetically, the Betazoid is no longer human.
Half betazoid*
18:14 ya.... I'd recon that out of a 1000people at least 200 would have died from this if not more. But I guess their is only so much Horror that a family friendly television show was allowed to do.
Writing might be a D, but I give it a B+ for how much I enjoy watching this episode. :)
Its also just ridiculous that the prop department on being told to make a Square flashlight didnt make a suggestion "whats wrong with a normal flashlight."😂 Who here has seen a square flashlight ever? Maybe 1 in 10000😂😂😂
I like this episode a lot.. so bad it’s good maybe? Really I like it because it’s BATS#!T crazy! Lol. Nothing in the episode makes any sense. Lol😂
Why does Barclay have a toupee in this one?
😂 Why did Worf bite her cheek?
See i told you worf ate some crew and noone ever talked about it, also they can magic back whole people from critters the size of an apple.
Ive waited so lobg for this episode lmao😅😅
Amphibians do not have scales on earth. Deanna Troi is not from earth.
I remember this being my favorite episode as a kid. Haha kinda disappointed it was rated so low
So where were all the 400 crew hiding when Picard and Data were wandering though the ship? I thought Barclay was a human so why did he not become a caveman or an ape? No, Barclay should have devolved into a Brocolli! That would have been perfect!
16:10 ya Barclay and Data would have been alot better of an episode.
I'm working my way through your guys' series. Loving it. Great humor and you two have a great rapport. Quick question though, when you get to the end of TNG, please do an episode on Star Trek Acid Party! th-cam.com/video/BZlRt05RY9Y/w-d-xo.html
i think they all share the same amoeba or something as a common ancester. not all of the humanoids are primeapes
According to the episode 'All Good Things', humanity came from primordial goo.
Also, the progenitor episode makes about as much sense as this "de-evolution" episode.
@@JanetStarChild yeah, so no contradiction, even if it makes no sense, it is consistent nonsense 😂
@@Mehwhatevr
Frankly, I'm disappointed at the lack-luster lore of Star Trek.
If worlds like Earth and Vulcan were seeded with artificial DNA designed to specifically evolve life into an anthropoid form, then _all_ life would be humanoid; something akin to the Bojack Horseman world.
This is one of the WORST reset button episodes!
involution is another option...
Beverley was always the right choice boys...
Sweet Bejebus!
People running around the ship looking like their ideal selves? You mean k-pop artists?
ace ending u done
This episode is dumb on so many levels, but I enjoy it just because it's fun if you set your brain aside
Solid F+.
This shits great
Finally! 😅
When I was a kid I had a crush on Ensign Ro.
Season 7 was bad all round, Genesis was best of a bad bunch.
I wonder how the writing quality would have held up if they went 10 or more seasons?
@jC-kc4si They were running out of ideas towards end of S07 with most character arcs reaching maturity. It looks like they went all out to end it on a high though with "All Good things"...... fantastic finale!!
yeah this was god-awful writing. like someone just read one sentence about evolution and assumed the rest.
Interesting concept that de-evolved the script as well. Very bland execution.