I love that newedges are starting to get way more love over the last couple of years, great cars and like you said common, cheap parts and a lot of aftermarket support
It helps to have company's step up to the plate make some parts specifically for drifting. Years ago I had a 93 Mustang and nobody at that time offered anything close to angle kit for them 👎🏻
OH, pro tip for the steering angle. Apparently, there are sleeves or pucks or whatever in the factory steering rack that you can shorten or remove to get more travel. Chris Fix did that to his SN95 and I believe he gained 10-12 degrees of steering angle, getting it overall into the low-to-mid 40-degree range.
#1 remove the stock steering rack stops to gain a few degrees and get or fab an angle kit. #2 don't run tailpipes just dump it before the rear axle or side exit for more ground clearance.
BTW you don't need to LS swap it. Twisted Wedge 2V heads and a David Vizard spec cam will get you at or above 400whp. Could push it even higher with a high-compression build and some port-biasing work (like what David does) to the twisted wedge heads. As far as the exhaust issue, well, I assume part of the problem is that the driveshaft has to have a travel distance due to live axle problems. So a "fix" that I theorize might be a bit easier than a full IRS conversion (especially IRS with GOOD geometry and strength, quite unlike the Cobra IRS) would be to build and convert the car to a De-Dion axle with a Satchell Link. Bonus points if you do it with a Corvette-style rear-CV transaxle and use inboard brakes, too.
I learned how to drive in a 2002 Roush Mustang. That learning experience included some donuts, figure 8s and entry level skids. 🙂 You're right about the terrible factory steering angle but other than that, these cars make a lot of sense. That Roush happens to be my mother's one owner car and I plan on taking it over when she's ready to part with it. It's a stage 2, recently supercharged with 330 whp and 350 tq. ❤
@Typical_Garage It was indeed! My first time out of a parking lot after figuring the clutch, I pulled out and began an 8 hour road trip. I also hit 100 mph with my mom's permission! Lmao 😂 That car is about as close to family as a piece of metal can get. 💕
hell yeah, I just picked up a mustang to do a big drift build (sold my ae86). came across this video. nice work dude, excited for the learning process!
@@dominicviola8908 it was but it was really difficult. i was able to link tracks in it but not super consistently. I found it pretty hard to get setup right. hopped in my mustang and drove better than ever on my first day lol. That said though, it was a super fun little car!
Could not agree with everything you said more man. I drift a 1998 gt. I did a tko trans with a twin disc, because trick flow heads, cams, forged rods and pistons, bigger valves, link ecu, 200 shot of nitrous. I did a full drift domestic front end, fortune auto coilovers, ksport front brakes and I built my own handbrake setup....just like the rest of the car actually. I built the engine myself (didn't even take it to the machine shopy car had 89,000 miles when I bought it. In the wrapper. I did all bbk rear arms because its good stuff. I got her down to 3020 with me in it. I'm 6'5 240. Still has a/c and I haul a Bluetooth speaker around with me for tunes when I have a good lookin passenger. However I built my exhaust out of oval tubing from vibrant. I paid the money for a 6 foot length of it and I gotta say, it was TOTALLY worth it. My headers meet into the 2 inch thick 4 inch wide oval, pie cuts to get a 45° bend, out right before the passenger rear wheel cut at the same angle as the body. It makes 440 barefoot and 650 on spray. More than enough for me. My car never breaks, it always starts and she's an absolute monster. 305s on the back 285 up front.
@@Typical_Garage brother ur a fellow slidy boi AND a mustang guy. You can ask me whatever the F you want. Honestly it depends on the layout. At grange I don't even use the bottle. But at my local track outside of Reno, Nevada the bottle runs empty after the 4th set of tires is dusted. The bottle lasts pretty much all day. I do have a full throttle activation. I put a floor mounted BMW right pedal in my car. They have that little click at wide open throttle which is what activates the solenoid. I arm the system with the fog light button, windshield washer is my purge. Lotta repinning but, it was worth it.
I would definitely say upgrade the entire rear end on the sn95/new edge bc I put a LSD carrier in mine, 4.10 and 31 spline axels and I haven't had any issues with it
I think gearing should depend on what type of power is being made. 4.10's with a stock 4.6 2v is a solid option. I went 3.73 because a cammed GM 5.3 makes a bit more power than that.
I drift an 04 mustang. Love everything you said in the video, except the parts about people dogging on the 2v 4.6. Everyone told me to find a 2v over a 3v because they are more durable.
When I heard you say GT 5 speed, bc of this vid I picked up a 00 GT 5 speed vert for 3800, no check engine lights, and just did a muffler delete, and I believe I can drive it from Washington State to Oklahoma without and issue
@@Typical_Garage I know that about that bumper but I’m talking about the bumper you have or 03-04 cobra bumper I need to know which I should choose for a daily I really love the one you have on your car but does it flex does it really look good does it scrape? I know that’s a lot but I’m building this car and putting a lot of money in it and I don’t wanna do anything twice
I agree, this lack of steering angle just sucks to deal with. I just bought an angle kit and coilovers basically out of necessity. My clutch packs failed twice already in less than a year, so Im just gonna weld it after i slap a dual caliper set up on it. Why did you LS swap btw? I know the 2v aint really worth upgrading
angle kit, coilovers and a good diff is really all it takes for these cars. As far as why I did the LS is because this car was originally a V6. After I sent 2 rods through the oil pan I decided I wasn't putting another V6 back in. lol
Very nice video, one quick question more on the boring side, how do you go about insuring this this, is it a non-op trailer only drift car, do you have special low mileage insurance, rates on these old stangs is crazy, i just wanna know if there's a way around it, as it is a failing point for me
This car is track use only so insurance isn't something I worry about. The most street use it sees is maybe once or twice in the summer I'll go up to the local gas station for a snack but that's it.
@ yupp. I’m actually pushing around 350-360 estimated right now, I’m just not sure if that’s enough to like properly drift without wet surfaces and maintain a drift
I picked up a shitbox 98 gt vert to use as a drift car, havent gotten to really do anything to it yet as other projects are ahead of it , but my main things I hate are the angle, and the 4.6, and the fact its a vert so I have to buy a cage
@Typical_Garage not dead set on not having a top, but prices on these damn cars are getting ridiculous and got the opportunity to get it off a buddy for cheap and even pay him here and there until it was paid off, plus it's in a condition that's probably just best used for drifting anyway, but it's a canvas I suppose and it's better than having nothing to work with at all, and it'll probably do ok with a little work, plus I suppose a cage would be cheaper than a whole other car, so I'll work with it, just those are the things I don't like about it is all
How do you has the suspension set up is it stiff in the rear or soft and how is the front set up as well. I just put in coil overs and I’m building a drift newedge
would've loved to learn drifting in a stock car unfortunately rwd cars are a premium would've cost me 16 thousand dollars to get the cheapest auto car rwd car, worked cheaper to build a car got a foxbody 302 engine and transmission on a bet (free!!!) the chassis (fathers old project car so also free) is a mitsubishi chariot awd is being converted into a racevan with a turbo 500hp v8 and custom angle kit that hopefully can be finished in 2-3 months🤞🤞
@@Typical_Garage will do its has a couple trick features that make it comfortable like dbw, antilag, 2step, adjustable boost and drive modes. Custom wiring for engine harness, chassis harness, custom taillights, custom headlights, full stereo system and a few more stuff that I'm working on
I lowered the rear with eibach lowering spring with strange 10am adjustable shocks, stock front struts with Viking 200lb coil over, and I have a built 4r70 automatic, how is drifting an automatic as far as durability to drift I could use as much advice as you are willing to share
I apologize for the late response but that setup doesn't sound like it'll work well. Lowering springs are still typically pretty soft and auto's don't do well in tight transitions. Is still welcome you to go out and give a try just don't set the expectations too high, ya know?
im basically a noob when it comes to american cars but i was wondering how the SRA compares to an IRS, i feel like having little or 0 adjustments for toe/camber is a challenge when it comes to having a drift car. is it worth to IRS swap or does the SRA feel fine?
I have no experience with a well put together irs setup on these cars but to put it in perspective why that is, a well put together irs cost 4x as much as a sra on these cars.
@ do you have any toe/camber adjustment at all with the sra? im just kinda confused i feel like thats pretty important especially if you lower the car + squat under load throws off camber and is sure to have uneven tire wear no? again i have no experience with sra just doin my research before i buy a shell😂
@homesick6265 no camber or toe adjustment. Adjustable upper arms allows the pinion angle to change but outside of that, regardless of ride height, camber and toe are at zero degrees
So im a beginner drifter who has no experience in drifting and my first drift car is a 91 foxbody gt. It does not have the stock 5.0. Ive done a 2011 crown vic 4.6 swap and a t45 trans. Im on coils, but i have not yet touched the steering angle on the car? Should i get seat time before getting an angle kit?
It's doable but swapping out the rear gear ratio will make the experience way more enjoyable. Keep an eye on oil temp and pressure too. I locked up my 3.8 by hot lapping on a summer day and being negligent with the oil
2000% yes I have a 2004 v6 I lowered it Put a borla attack x pipe Painted it again mate black 21 inch wheels Changed the interior Speed is like 180 mph 0 to 60 mph in 5 secs Soo Its a great daily bro Good milage
If it makes you feel any better, the undesirable ones will probably always be cheap. Like the one in this video was a yellow V6 manual car that didn't run when I bought it. Picked it up for $600 3 years ago
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I love that newedges are starting to get way more love over the last couple of years, great cars and like you said common, cheap parts and a lot of aftermarket support
It helps to have company's step up to the plate make some parts specifically for drifting. Years ago I had a 93 Mustang and nobody at that time offered anything close to angle kit for them 👎🏻
OH, pro tip for the steering angle. Apparently, there are sleeves or pucks or whatever in the factory steering rack that you can shorten or remove to get more travel. Chris Fix did that to his SN95 and I believe he gained 10-12 degrees of steering angle, getting it overall into the low-to-mid 40-degree range.
I did this and wasn't that impressed with the difference. like from driving experience, there was much of a noticeable change
#1 remove the stock steering rack stops to gain a few degrees and get or fab an angle kit. #2 don't run tailpipes just dump it before the rear axle or side exit for more ground clearance.
“Dealing with that rear end is a pleasure” hell yea brother
BTW you don't need to LS swap it. Twisted Wedge 2V heads and a David Vizard spec cam will get you at or above 400whp. Could push it even higher with a high-compression build and some port-biasing work (like what David does) to the twisted wedge heads. As far as the exhaust issue, well, I assume part of the problem is that the driveshaft has to have a travel distance due to live axle problems.
So a "fix" that I theorize might be a bit easier than a full IRS conversion (especially IRS with GOOD geometry and strength, quite unlike the Cobra IRS) would be to build and convert the car to a De-Dion axle with a Satchell Link. Bonus points if you do it with a Corvette-style rear-CV transaxle and use inboard brakes, too.
I agree that an LS swap isn't essential but it is one of the most practical swaps for guys starting off in a base model V6 car.
agreed. basically have to go full custom exhaust to get it as high up as i can and even still it scrapes every so often
I learned how to drive in a 2002 Roush Mustang. That learning experience included some donuts, figure 8s and entry level skids. 🙂 You're right about the terrible factory steering angle but other than that, these cars make a lot of sense. That Roush happens to be my mother's one owner car and I plan on taking it over when she's ready to part with it. It's a stage 2, recently supercharged with 330 whp and 350 tq. ❤
Learning to drive with that much power must've been a blast!
@Typical_Garage It was indeed! My first time out of a parking lot after figuring the clutch, I pulled out and began an 8 hour road trip. I also hit 100 mph with my mom's permission! Lmao 😂 That car is about as close to family as a piece of metal can get. 💕
@@renerpups Love that!
Oh yeah and the number 1 reason to drift a stang is KBD"S new body kit!!! whattttt looks PERFECT for this chassis!
I've seen it and agree it looks good but isn't my #1 pick tbh. I mean, If they gave me one for free, i'd put it on but I wouldn't spend my money on it
Thanks for sharing, good info
Always happy to help!
going to look at one tomorrow im hype
Did you buy it??
hell yeah, I just picked up a mustang to do a big drift build (sold my ae86). came across this video. nice work dude, excited for the learning process!
I as your ae86 fun? I’ve been wanting one.
@@dominicviola8908 it was but it was really difficult. i was able to link tracks in it but not super consistently. I found it pretty hard to get setup right. hopped in my mustang and drove better than ever on my first day lol. That said though, it was a super fun little car!
Could not agree with everything you said more man. I drift a 1998 gt. I did a tko trans with a twin disc, because trick flow heads, cams, forged rods and pistons, bigger valves, link ecu, 200 shot of nitrous. I did a full drift domestic front end, fortune auto coilovers, ksport front brakes and I built my own handbrake setup....just like the rest of the car actually. I built the engine myself (didn't even take it to the machine shopy car had 89,000 miles when I bought it. In the wrapper. I did all bbk rear arms because its good stuff. I got her down to 3020 with me in it. I'm 6'5 240. Still has a/c and I haul a Bluetooth speaker around with me for tunes when I have a good lookin passenger. However I built my exhaust out of oval tubing from vibrant. I paid the money for a 6 foot length of it and I gotta say, it was TOTALLY worth it. My headers meet into the 2 inch thick 4 inch wide oval, pie cuts to get a 45° bend, out right before the passenger rear wheel cut at the same angle as the body. It makes 440 barefoot and 650 on spray. More than enough for me. My car never breaks, it always starts and she's an absolute monster. 305s on the back 285 up front.
Love that! Mind if I ask how often your going through a bottle of spray on track?
@@Typical_Garage brother ur a fellow slidy boi AND a mustang guy. You can ask me whatever the F you want. Honestly it depends on the layout. At grange I don't even use the bottle. But at my local track outside of Reno, Nevada the bottle runs empty after the 4th set of tires is dusted. The bottle lasts pretty much all day. I do have a full throttle activation. I put a floor mounted BMW right pedal in my car. They have that little click at wide open throttle which is what activates the solenoid. I arm the system with the fog light button, windshield washer is my purge. Lotta repinning but, it was worth it.
I would definitely say upgrade the entire rear end on the sn95/new edge bc I put a LSD carrier in mine, 4.10 and 31 spline axels and I haven't had any issues with it
I think gearing should depend on what type of power is being made. 4.10's with a stock 4.6 2v is a solid option. I went 3.73 because a cammed GM 5.3 makes a bit more power than that.
There are plastic spacers that can be removed out of the steering rack to get more angle..
I did do this mod and it certainly didn't hurt anything but I didn't notice much of a difference while driving
I drift an 04 mustang. Love everything you said in the video, except the parts about people dogging on the 2v 4.6. Everyone told me to find a 2v over a 3v because they are more durable.
When I heard you say GT 5 speed, bc of this vid I picked up a 00 GT 5 speed vert for 3800, no check engine lights, and just did a muffler delete, and I believe I can drive it from Washington State to Oklahoma without and issue
Cobra r front bumper is sick. My favorite.
A man of fine taste 🤌
@@Typical_Garagequestion cobr r or regular cobra front bumper
@@Thegcodee 99-01 Cobra > 03-04 Cobra
@@Thegcodee 2000 cobra r bumper my friend
@@Typical_Garage I know that about that bumper but I’m talking about the bumper you have or 03-04 cobra bumper I need to know which I should choose for a daily I really love the one you have on your car but does it flex does it really look good does it scrape? I know that’s a lot but I’m building this car and putting a lot of money in it and I don’t wanna do anything twice
My foxbody has factory 5 lug wheels and discs all the way around too. Also is turbocharged.
SVO?
@@Typical_Garage yessir
I think those run 355 stock. 373 really wakes it up on the bottom end.
3:27 from the factory
Mach 1's and the 03-04 Cobra's had 3.55 ratio. Everything else was 3.27
i think i saw your doppelganger today at a store
I agree, this lack of steering angle just sucks to deal with. I just bought an angle kit and coilovers basically out of necessity. My clutch packs failed twice already in less than a year, so Im just gonna weld it after i slap a dual caliper set up on it. Why did you LS swap btw? I know the 2v aint really worth upgrading
angle kit, coilovers and a good diff is really all it takes for these cars. As far as why I did the LS is because this car was originally a V6. After I sent 2 rods through the oil pan I decided I wasn't putting another V6 back in. lol
Love your mustang sick af
Thank you!
I got to know what front bumper are you rockin?
It's a KBD Cobra unit
I just bought a 2002 Mustang base with welded differential and lower drift build already
How has that worked out for you I’m thinking of getting something similar?
@@asianchris5201 been great tbh
I’ve been wanting a mustang since kd made a body kit for these cars
Have you seen the new Japanese tuner inspired kit from kbd??
Very nice video, one quick question more on the boring side, how do you go about insuring this this, is it a non-op trailer only drift car, do you have special low mileage insurance, rates on these old stangs is crazy, i just wanna know if there's a way around it, as it is a failing point for me
This car is track use only so insurance isn't something I worry about. The most street use it sees is maybe once or twice in the summer I'll go up to the local gas station for a snack but that's it.
Do you have special insurance for it?
@@cryptikss negative
@@Typical_Garage just low mileage insurance? liability only?
I like both
What do you mean?
Why does that tire look flat though????
It was casually chilling ar 3psi 😅
So how’s a v6 s550?
I have no experience with them but I'd image they're pretty good. The 3.7 V6 in thr 2015+ cars make just over 300whp which is plenty for fun having
@ yupp. I’m actually pushing around 350-360 estimated right now, I’m just not sure if that’s enough to like properly drift without wet surfaces and maintain a drift
I keep telling myself that if I total my SR20 swapped S13. I’m getting a SN95.
I picked up a shitbox 98 gt vert to use as a drift car, havent gotten to really do anything to it yet as other projects are ahead of it , but my main things I hate are the angle, and the 4.6, and the fact its a vert so I have to buy a cage
If it's a 5 speed car, maybe you could source a hardtop and swap over the drivetrain unless you're dead set on having no top
@Typical_Garage not dead set on not having a top, but prices on these damn cars are getting ridiculous and got the opportunity to get it off a buddy for cheap and even pay him here and there until it was paid off, plus it's in a condition that's probably just best used for drifting anyway, but it's a canvas I suppose and it's better than having nothing to work with at all, and it'll probably do ok with a little work, plus I suppose a cage would be cheaper than a whole other car, so I'll work with it, just those are the things I don't like about it is all
How do you has the suspension set up is it stiff in the rear or soft and how is the front set up as well. I just put in coil overs and I’m building a drift newedge
would've loved to learn drifting in a stock car unfortunately rwd cars are a premium would've cost me 16 thousand dollars to get the cheapest auto car rwd car, worked cheaper to build a car got a foxbody 302 engine and transmission on a bet (free!!!) the chassis (fathers old project car so also free) is a mitsubishi chariot awd is being converted into a racevan with a turbo 500hp v8 and custom angle kit that hopefully can be finished in 2-3 months🤞🤞
That's a wicked build! Keep me posted on how it goes
@@Typical_Garage will do its has a couple trick features that make it comfortable like dbw, antilag, 2step, adjustable boost and drive modes. Custom wiring for engine harness, chassis harness, custom taillights, custom headlights, full stereo system and a few more stuff that I'm working on
What kind of coil overs and angle kit are you running?
Right now I'm on Rev9 coils with a Scotidi angle kit
How will a new edge drift with 4:10 gears ? I was building for the 1/8 mile but I now would like to start learning how drift
I lowered the rear with eibach lowering spring with strange 10am adjustable shocks, stock front struts with Viking 200lb coil over, and I have a built 4r70 automatic, how is drifting an automatic as far as durability to drift I could use as much advice as you are willing to share
I apologize for the late response but that setup doesn't sound like it'll work well. Lowering springs are still typically pretty soft and auto's don't do well in tight transitions. Is still welcome you to go out and give a try just don't set the expectations too high, ya know?
Bro you just made me regret selling my 02 stang and I sold it 10 years ago 😂
im basically a noob when it comes to american cars but i was wondering how the SRA compares to an IRS, i feel like having little or 0 adjustments for toe/camber is a challenge when it comes to having a drift car. is it worth to IRS swap or does the SRA feel fine?
I have no experience with a well put together irs setup on these cars but to put it in perspective why that is, a well put together irs cost 4x as much as a sra on these cars.
@ do you have any toe/camber adjustment at all with the sra? im just kinda confused i feel like thats pretty important especially if you lower the car + squat under load throws off camber and is sure to have uneven tire wear no? again i have no experience with sra just doin my research before i buy a shell😂
@homesick6265 no camber or toe adjustment. Adjustable upper arms allows the pinion angle to change but outside of that, regardless of ride height, camber and toe are at zero degrees
So im a beginner drifter who has no experience in drifting and my first drift car is a 91 foxbody gt. It does not have the stock 5.0. Ive done a 2011 crown vic 4.6 swap and a t45 trans. Im on coils, but i have not yet touched the steering angle on the car? Should i get seat time before getting an angle kit?
for sure get as much seat time as you can with or without an angle kit but be aware the stock angle is going to be your next bottle neck to address
What angle kit you have
Scotti D
I live in Germany....300€ for an oil change and break pads.
what bumper is that?
Kbd cobra r
Hello. I'm thinking of buying a 2000 3.8 Mustang, with a 4.10 gears manual. Would this be a good project car for drifting?
If it already has the 4.10 gears in it then absolutely!
what bumper/lip is that?
Kbd cobra r. The lip is integrated into jt
Thanks
Happy to help!
So can I not build a drift car out of a 3.8 liter?
It's doable but swapping out the rear gear ratio will make the experience way more enjoyable. Keep an eye on oil temp and pressure too. I locked up my 3.8 by hot lapping on a summer day and being negligent with the oil
Yes because I am too. 😂
Lovin' it so far?
@Typical_Garage hard to say. I've had zero track time with the car so far. It runs, it drives, I'm broke haha.
@@leftcoastdrifter lmao I couldn't relate to that any more than I already do 🤣
Mustangs ftw!!
🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼
Are the v6 worth it?
2000% yes
I have a 2004 v6
I lowered it
Put a borla attack x pipe
Painted it again mate black
21 inch wheels
Changed the interior
Speed is like 180 mph
0 to 60 mph in 5 secs
Soo
Its a great daily bro
Good milage
U got a straight up flat tire lol. How did umit not rip the tire off
It was legit at 2psi and I didn't even notice lol
Im here because I had 1500 for a car and im determined to make that shitbox fun
Hell yea bro 🙏 I just got one my self bus a straight shit box but it will do
You didn’t mention one single time that you have a friend who also has a mustang🤯
If I mentioned everyone I knew that owned a mustang, this video would've been twice as long. lol
I hate that I can’t slam mine
Especially when renderings look so good!
I hate that these are getting popular bc I REALLY want one and they’re gonna get expensive haha
If it makes you feel any better, the undesirable ones will probably always be cheap. Like the one in this video was a yellow V6 manual car that didn't run when I bought it. Picked it up for $600 3 years ago
yo ur tires flat, hahaha 2:37
Right rear flat…
shhh... It's only flat on the bottom. It'll be ok lol
there's actual more mustangs than ford made. you can buy EVERYTHING online to build a full mustang at home
Absolutely!
oof its LS swapped :|
5.3 V8 > 3.8 V6.... When the time is great I'd like to experiment with a 6.8 V10 or big block 7.5. Just not in the cards for me at this time though
i think i should build one lel
If you enjoying being stressed out, I highly recommend this platform lmao
You sound like you play hockey
I've actually never played hockey a day in my life. Lol