Been awhile since I've heard a not-so-bad techno ditty. This reminds me of the tv program "How it's made"; I love seeing how things get manufactured - keep 'em coming!
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If I had that equipment in the 80s, custom exhaust systems would have been much faster and easier to fabricate! Good to see the simplicity of the tools. 👍💪
@@DodgyBrothersEngineering The availability of mandrel bent tubing in the 80's was virtually nill. I fabricated custom exhaust systems in the early 80's and even stainless steel tubing was unobtainable to the small shop because of "minimum quantity" requirements. Modern inverter TIG didn't exist and MIG wasn't that widespread. FluxCore was used in industry, I used it building offshore oilrigs in Freeport, TX but small, affordable rigs weren't available to the general public. There has been a boom in equipment availability at affordable prices over the past 40 years. I became an Industrial Design Engineer and really appreciated access to equipment I could only dream of years earlier! I was one of those "out of the box" thinkers thanks to my early years of hands-on problem solving before my degree. I agree with your basic premise but one can be limited by what is actually available at the time.
Great stuff. You know, we can make those machines. They’re really simple (except for the bandsaw.). Even the hardening and tempering of the dies is simple.
They only showed how they made two into ones I used to build four into one merge collectors using 21° bends and a band saw cutting each one length wise one at a time it was a lot of fun
A friend of mine has used a port-a-power type hydraulic system and a generic pipe expander to expand pipe for his tractor and pickup. He may have had to make a new mandrel, I seem to remember that the stock one didn't survive after a while, but that may have been using it with an impact driver before he switched to the hydraulic setup.
I fail to see how anyone can give this a thumbs down -- the guy is talented and doing something involved with something we ALL enjoy - MOTOR VEHICLES (HA - and MOTORBIKES and PISTON ENGINED aircraft) - obviously car haters accidentally viewed this video. Have a nice day all. CHEERS from AUSTRALIA.
Yup! It's an eye opener for sure. They make their own dies and equipment to manufacture. It makes you step back and really think about a product. That blue forming machine is completely custom made.
Good morning, who said there are no craftsmanship in the USA? These guys redefine the meaning of the word. Can you say World Class, they are. Thanks for a great video. Take care and have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
The machine was literally just a double acting cylinder. The mandrels were totally custom made. You could make that stuff! The Huth swager is also just a pull ram, and you can buy the expanding mandrels, no big deal there. However, I do like the swage box those have for compressing the tube ends. Always yields a stronger tube than an expanded joint. But those are really sold to exhaust guys, and they don't really care too much about tube strength, just more about ease of fit up during installation.
That’s pretty cool, especially since, in the future, I’m gonna try to make a one off, 4 into 1 collector (4-2 1/4” pipes into 1- 3 1/2” collector) for a project I’m doin. Gonna try to make 4 different two into 1 logs, into an unorthodox 180° header (sorta) for a whipple charged, LQ9 in a sas, 4x4 Colorado! Anyway, thanks again, good stuff!!
Very interesting video, thank you. I just wish that they would have finished that 4-1 merge collector that they started on, thats what I really wanted to see.
Cool, but pretty old school stuff. I thought this was about a "real" merge collector, with 4 tubes tapering down to a slightly larger size before flaring out to a much larger outlet with an included cone in the center formed by the cuts on the individual inlet tubes, like those sold by Burns Stainless among others. Can't be extremely hard as there are chinese knockoffs for about a fourth the price of a /burns collector, but the way the tubes are cut is the key!
Looked like they were welding SS, and the apparent sugaring would support that - not important for the application? I thought you had already made some up, but those were more transitions, checked 6061 (another very cool welding site) and still nowt - I'm sure I've seen a few, but...
That's what I came here to fins out, how the hell did the complete the weld on the 2-1? Would love to see a video specific on that and getting into really tight angles.
I’m gonna expose my inexperience here but what about the gaps around where the four tubes go into the collector?? Or is there enough exhaust scavenging there’s no backflow of exhaust?
It's painted DoAll Gray. When that saw was made (early 50s) it looks like, most machines were green. But DoAll weren't the only ones using gray either. I couldn't find any pictures to confirm, but if you're looking at an industrial metal cutting bandsaw made in the last 100 years there's a better than average chance it is a DoAll or a Dake.
Great video!...question.. Can a collector be repaired? I have a leak on the inside of the collector. It seems to be square in the middle where the tubes come together.
I'm gonna put this out there and ask a stupid question,,. I've seen videos of guys welding aluminum with a mig welder and no spool gun.. using 100 percent argon, upsizing aluminum wire to .035 5356 and a .035 tip, and loosening up the drive wheel, My Question is, How good of a weld is this going to provide and will it hold? I know this doesn't pertain to this particular video, but I wanted to ask a professional and get a stupid question answered if possible... Thanks
Trade secrets, my friend. Not everyone wants to throw their success in the table for anyone to grab. Theres more to the product than just geometry and I completely respect that.
could you please show how you would fit round ss tube to a oval shaped exhaust port? I have a gasket matches header flange and im trying to make it fit but i am missing a good idea how to make an easy jig to make it fit ;)
A few of those scenes triggered suppressed memories of me vs. the family court industrial complex, only there was a lot more lube involved here.
I only started sitting down a few years ago from the mid 80's so I know your pain!!!
This was great! Learned a ton. I found myself saying "I could make a jig to do that if I needed to." Great inspiration!
The format of this video reminds me of the "how it's made"television program, without all the chatter... Nice!
Been awhile since I've heard a not-so-bad techno ditty. This reminds me of the tv program "How it's made"; I love seeing how things get manufactured - keep 'em coming!
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If I had that equipment in the 80s, custom exhaust systems would have been much faster and easier to fabricate! Good to see the simplicity of the tools. 👍💪
Nothing cutting edge about the tools they used. They could have been simply fabricated in the 80's. What was missing was the thinking outside the box.
@@DodgyBrothersEngineering The availability of mandrel bent tubing in the 80's was virtually nill. I fabricated custom exhaust systems in the early 80's and even stainless steel tubing was unobtainable to the small shop because of "minimum quantity" requirements. Modern inverter TIG didn't exist and MIG wasn't that widespread. FluxCore was used in industry, I used it building offshore oilrigs in Freeport, TX but small, affordable rigs weren't available to the general public. There has been a boom in equipment availability at affordable prices over the past 40 years. I became an Industrial Design Engineer and really appreciated access to equipment I could only dream of years earlier! I was one of those "out of the box" thinkers thanks to my early years of hands-on problem solving before my degree. I agree with your basic premise but one can be limited by what is actually available at the time.
Amazingly simple but incredible none the less. I guess it's all about having the right tools. Thanks for bringing it to us.
Great stuff. You know, we can make those machines. They’re really simple (except for the bandsaw.). Even the hardening and tempering of the dies is simple.
Very interesting... Could watch a lot more of this stuff.
Love that bandsaw!!!!
Good timing I'm going to be starting a header build this weekend so the more input the better
I like these sort of focused behind the scenes videos!
The How It’s Made music was on point 👌
I feel like it the only thing the video was missing was "how it's made" like commentary on what was going on.
Some things are better left unsaid
I could watch this stuff all day, but work gets in the way
Today I learned that exhaust tubing is shaped on a logsplitter with specialized dies.
Was thinking that my 30t splitter is under utilized
My mind is blown!
I bend it with my OG farmer hands, like a clown tiein balloon animals
Cheers JDC for the walk around, Great video Justin.
They only showed how they made two into ones I used to build four into one merge collectors using 21° bends and a band saw cutting each one length wise one at a time it was a lot of fun
That was really fun to watch. Now I'm wondering if I could get a swedge bit and use a simple hydraulic press to expand exhaust piping.
A friend of mine has used a port-a-power type hydraulic system and a generic pipe expander to expand pipe for his tractor and pickup.
He may have had to make a new mandrel, I seem to remember that the stock one didn't survive after a while, but that may have been using it with an impact driver before he switched to the hydraulic setup.
I fail to see how anyone can give this a thumbs down -- the guy is talented and doing something involved with something we ALL enjoy - MOTOR VEHICLES (HA - and MOTORBIKES and PISTON ENGINED aircraft) - obviously car haters accidentally viewed this video. Have a nice day all. CHEERS from AUSTRALIA.
Very nice, I love how its made videos. Also I was just watching Fireball Tools shop tour and he had a very similar bandsaw, neat.
Nice to see that the shop has some pretty nice homemade stuff for fabrication.
Yup! It's an eye opener for sure. They make their own dies and equipment to manufacture. It makes you step back and really think about a product. That blue forming machine is completely custom made.
Good morning, who said there are no craftsmanship in the USA? These guys redefine the meaning of the word. Can you say World Class, they are. Thanks for a great video. Take care and have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
The machine was literally just a double acting cylinder. The mandrels were totally custom made. You could make that stuff! The Huth swager is also just a pull ram, and you can buy the expanding mandrels, no big deal there. However, I do like the swage box those have for compressing the tube ends. Always yields a stronger tube than an expanded joint. But those are really sold to exhaust guys, and they don't really care too much about tube strength, just more about ease of fit up during installation.
You should take a look at the way “Burns Stainless” does their merge collectors, now those things are awesome....good insight with this vid tho 👍🏽
I used to work at an exhaust shop they had that same bender/expander/reduced tool pretty sweet gig tbh
Awesome. Very cool.
Seriously cool!
Time fly seeing your videos...!!!
Thanks.
Great vid!!
Would love to see how a turbo manifold collector is welded, seems like a pretty skillful aspect of manifold making.
I believe I've watch TFS making what your looking for.
@@normhowes2975 oh cool I'll check it out. In a new sub here :) great channel
@Anthony what? Lol
@Anthony no it's not a cast side. I'm talking about custom tube manifolds. Nothing is cast in what I'm talking about.
THATS SUPER COOL I ALWAYS WONDERED
Very cool!
That’s pretty cool, especially since, in the future, I’m gonna try to make a one off, 4 into 1 collector (4-2 1/4” pipes into 1- 3 1/2” collector) for a project I’m doin. Gonna try to make 4 different two into 1 logs, into an unorthodox 180° header (sorta) for a whipple charged, LQ9 in a sas, 4x4 Colorado!
Anyway, thanks again, good stuff!!
Very interesting video, thank you. I just wish that they would have finished that 4-1 merge collector that they started on, thats what I really wanted to see.
How about showing mandrel bending 4130 roll cage hoops for Rails?
Just making me drool over all those tools.
Cool dudes!
Cool, but pretty old school stuff. I thought this was about a "real" merge collector, with 4 tubes tapering down to a slightly larger size before flaring out to a much larger outlet with an included cone in the center formed by the cuts on the individual inlet tubes, like those sold by Burns Stainless among others. Can't be extremely hard as there are chinese knockoffs for about a fourth the price of a /burns collector, but the way the tubes are cut is the key!
hell yeah my brain is racing with ideas now
Sweet!!
That were awesome! Thanks for the hints!
Great video I always wondered how those were made. Thanks for sharing
I did a video on how to make a two into one exhaust for a Honda Bros Motorcycle with just an angle grinder and arc welder
very cool
Love the video. I love the show how it works as well.
Could you make a video about pin stands on a car? Both the stand itself as well as the system on a car.
amazing video thank you
Looked like they were welding SS, and the apparent sugaring would support that - not important for the application?
I thought you had already made some up, but those were more transitions, checked 6061 (another very cool welding site) and still nowt - I'm sure I've seen a few, but...
How about proper 4:1 merge collectors?
The stickout to get in that tight space must have been pretty insane, were they purged?
Alpha Utahn, Wide cup. 👍🏻
That's what I came here to fins out, how the hell did the complete the weld on the 2-1? Would love to see a video specific on that and getting into really tight angles.
Talk about square peg in a round hole lol. Thanks for the vid and happy holidays (Merry Christmas)
great video
Could you please explain what exhaust pulse pairing between banks is and what advantages it has (guessinh that there are some).
Love it, always wondered how they did that.
That was wicked kool
Loved it
Fascinating insight mate cheers.
Ever thought of getting an extra tig machine?
I’m gonna expose my inexperience here but what about the gaps around where the four tubes go into the collector?? Or is there enough exhaust scavenging there’s no backflow of exhaust?
Noticed they didn’t back purge on the one style of collector when final welding, correct?
That was great more please
This was awesome! Thank you!
NICE
Enjoyed it mate.. cheers
Me: Those look just like the collectors I get from JMD.... *checks description*
I use these all the time for my custom headers
Great Vid! That is an AWESOME band saw! Who makes it? Merry Christmas!
It's painted DoAll Gray. When that saw was made (early 50s) it looks like, most machines were green. But DoAll weren't the only ones using gray either. I couldn't find any pictures to confirm, but if you're looking at an industrial metal cutting bandsaw made in the last 100 years there's a better than average chance it is a DoAll or a Dake.
I’m 90% sure it’s a Marvel. We have one very similar at the shop I work at, also grey.
Great video!...question..
Can a collector be repaired?
I have a leak on the inside of the collector. It seems to be square in the middle where the tubes come together.
Cool
outstanding!!!
Epic video! Thanks!
Very informative thanks
That's was very cool
my god ive always wanted to know this
Good stuff
I'm gonna put this out there and ask a stupid question,,. I've seen videos of guys welding aluminum with a mig welder and no spool gun.. using 100 percent argon, upsizing aluminum wire to .035 5356 and a .035 tip, and loosening up the drive wheel, My Question is, How good of a weld is this going to provide and will it hold?
I know this doesn't pertain to this particular video, but I wanted to ask a professional and get a stupid question answered if possible...
Thanks
Amazing vídeo!
Liked this and want to see more. Would've loved it better if you had narrated it with a voice over. Just my two cents worth.
Would of liked to see more than two bent tubes cut. Totally different animal after two. Thanks for the cool vid though.👍
Trade secrets, my friend. Not everyone wants to throw their success in the table for anyone to grab. Theres more to the product than just geometry and I completely respect that.
I believe that guy at bout 4:32 mark forgot to move his thumb out of the way sometime in the past
So no back purge?
no internal purge ?
Can you guys make 1 1/8” 2 into 1 header for a small turbo?
I’m interested!
Larry (Dallas TX)
Good stuff!
What did everyone do before Furick cups?
Omg 🤩 awesome
could you please show how you would fit round ss tube to a oval shaped exhaust port? I have a gasket matches header flange and im trying to make it fit but i am missing a good idea how to make an easy jig to make it fit ;)
Increíble, from peru 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
What is the diameter of the pipe?
cool
Whether in welding fabrication part require wps,pqtr,pgr before making the part?
I would like to know How to fabricate 8 into 1 merge collector with a reverse cone for 1 7/8 primary to 3 1/2 secondary
Appreciate it :D
I wouldn't mind having one of those bandsaws
Twin scroll collector for 6 cylinder and 4 cylinder
I would like to know how to make a fortune. A good video on this topic would be highly appreciated. LOL
all i know is, for some reason, i want to watch Tron: Legacy now
Merci beaucoup pour cette vidéo dude. Good d'job.👍🤘.
Petite question, quelle est le modèle de votre scie a ruban s'il vous plais ?
Wish I had TIG.
Can you make a tutorial for us mere mortals without such nice equipments? Like turbo merge collectors, mostly using simple tools like a chop saw
Fuck yea