I have a 103 that I put a stage 110ci stage 4 kit and had a FP3 on it. I’m leaving the FP3 to a power vision ( license agreement only no display) simply because of the complications and tinkering that you can easily get it the habit with both the FP3 and the power vision. I have called dyno jet and they thought this is the best option for the 99% of us that just want all the power/ torque and best running capability from the professionals. Wish I was the 1%er who could tinker. From all accounts, they said i will see and feel a difference to throttle response. 🤞🏻🙏
After I had my Power Vision a year, I met a tech at a Dyno Jet mobile dyno during bike week. Everything was running fine, but he suggested I take some time playing around with the Quick Tune. This program has limits on what you can change and how much, so it won't let you damage your bike. But you can make gradual changes in the fuel map to get more or less out of your bike than the Auto Tune will give you. Watch the gauges. MPG, Knock Sensor and Engine Temp are the important ones. Less fuel will give better MPG at the expense of higher Engine Temp and less torque and acceleration. But there is an optimal point where less fuel is just less of everything. More fuel gives more power at lower MPG and engine temperature. But more fuel also means less air since one displaces the other. So it is just like the coffeemaker. You want to find out the right amount of grounds (fuel) and the right amount of water (air) to get what you want out of your bike. It can be a long slow process making gradual changes and charting what each does to MPG and Engine Temp and riding the interstate for a few miles on each setting. But in the end you will gain control over your bike that the throttle just can't give you. At the end of the day you can clear the Quick Tune back to zero and be right back where you started. I found it was great advice that I am glad to pass on.
Hey Ryan, I didn't buy your video on this topic because I have owned a Power Vision for my Dyna for two years, and I have been making good use of it. So, as you warned here, this video probably isn't a wise purchase for me, and as a result I cannot directly comment on the video. But I can comment on Harleys in general. Nothing on them is from the Dollar Store. A simple Power Vision without the Auto Tuner is about $500. A few extra dollars for a video to properly install something and save a few hundred dollars at the dealer or save from ruining an expensive O2 sensor is just a no brainer. I just think people forget the true risk they are taking when they work on their bikes themselves and the value of having a step by step video over a black and white instruction sheet with stick drawings. Every time I do a job myself for the first time, it always takes 4 times longer. So I appreciate knowing I can find detailed videos to cut short the inevitable trial and error process I would face otherwise. Keep up your good work.
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I agree since I put one of LAB's Heated Hand Grips video's to good use on my 13 RG. The updates are also included with the price. Ryan does a great job on filming and puts his heart into it!
Ryan, I made a video that mentioned this channel, and mentioned this video on it. I am hoping that some of my subscribers will comment on your videos. The video I made is a featured video right now until I upload another video. Keep up the good videos. I was thinking about getting that for my bike that you mentioned in this video sometime soon.
I wanted to add a second comment intended to the other viewers. I don't think most people understand right off why they need to retune their bikes after an engine mod like exhaust, but it's really simple to understand. When I make coffee in the morning, I put a couple spoons of coffee in the filter, my 15 oz. cup and the right amount of water in the machine. It is all computer controlled, and I know the cup isn't going to be overfilled or make the coffee too week. The bike works exactly like this. If you put more water in your coffee maker, it isn't going to know the difference. It is still going to make the same amount of coffee until you tell it different. And if you put a larger cup on the tray, it isn't going to know until you tell the computer you want more coffee too. So that's what the tuner does. Put a smaller cup in the tray and you are going to make a mess. Whether you use an FP3, Power Vision or any other. If you get a tuner that requires maps, then anytime you want a different cup, you need to download another map and hope it isn't going to spill your coffee all over the counter. Not the best. The Auto Tune process on the Power Vision works this recipe out and then saves it until you want to try something different. That's what it does.
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@@RyanUrlacher Not true, you can buy separate "keys" so you can use it on different bikes. It's the "key" that's married to the bike, not the Power Vision.
I have a 06 Street Glide 88 cubic inch that doesn't have O2 sensors so which one do you buy cuz all you guys talk about is the ones with O2 sensors could you give me a answer for I know what I want to buy I want to put dual exhaust on thanks
Charlie brady 06 is the last yr with no 02 sensors. If u want 02 sensors they can be welded on. Depends what u want to do. With an 88 inch I wouldn’t bother. A Vance and Hines fp3 would do fine for you.
I just purchased a power vision I am lost with this thing. I have Vance and Hines short shots and a screamin eagle high flow air filter and need to tune it at its maximum potential. Btw it's a sportster will This video cover all that? I'm trying to just find a quick map
Itamajano try quick tune, I’m new too but I called dynojet they gave me a download that worked great. No decell pops and more power..wat h the videos on you tube
Douglas Davis What timing Douglas. Not a huge fan of the SERT. They are basic at best and HD's go to unit. You literally have to ride around with a laptop in a saddlebag to gather any data. A friend of ours has a SERT on his CVO Street Glide. Nothing but problems. We are actually switching it out to an FP3 or Power Vision in the next week or so. FP3: www.lawabidingbiker.com/Fuelpak3 Power Vision ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/powervision Ride safe & Ride Often! Here is a link to a bunch of our useful Free vids bro: www.lawabidingbiker.com/freevideos Here is a link to some of our useful for purchase videos: www.lawabidingbiker.com/buyvideos Want Answers & Information Fast? And help support us at the same time? Do you like the content we provide? Our patrons get answers to their questions/comments/feedback in less than 24 hrs and are part of our Private Facebook Group. If you are interested in being in this exclusive group you can get all the details at ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/patreon If you haven't subscribed to the Law Abiding Biker Podcast make sure to do so. Listen in as we talk weekly about issues/items like this & so much more. You can listen on iTunes (Apple/IOS), Stitcher Radio (Android), or any other Podcast App ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/podcast Join our free email club at /www.LawAbidingBiker.com/EmailClub. Only relevant content will be sent from time to time. Email club members are the first to find out about free or for sale content are given special coupon codes.
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you guys keep talking about how 95% of your content is free, but every video I have clicked on is you guys just sitting around talking about all your "videos for bikers by bikers" for sale... Misleading titles, that don't show jack shit...
tyee4u Unfortunately you did not spend much time looking brother. I will make it easy for you. Our audience knows better. Yah, we do sell some for obvious reasons. It costs to make all the free stuff. Here ya go. Free stuff for ya. www.lawabidingbiker.com/freevideos. Here are more links and free stuff if that is all your looking for. www.lawabidingbiker.com/getstarted ENJOY AND YOUR WELCOME!! Ride safe & Ride Often! Here is a link to a bunch of our useful Free vids bro: www.lawabidingbiker.com/freevideos Here is a link to some of our useful for purchase videos: www.lawabidingbiker.com/buyvideos Want Answers & Information Fast? And help support us at the same time? Do you like the content we provide? Our patrons get answers to their questions/comments/feedback in less than 24 hrs and are part of our Private Facebook Group. If you are interested in being in this exclusive group you can get all the details at ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/patreon If you haven't subscribed to the Law Abiding Biker Podcast make sure to do so. Listen in as we talk weekly about issues/items like this & so much more. You can listen on iTunes (Apple/IOS), Stitcher Radio (Android), or any other Podcast App ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/podcast Join our free email club at /www.LawAbidingBiker.com/EmailClub. Only relevant content will be sent from time to time. Email club members are the first to find out about free or for sale content are given special coupon codes.
We prefer the FP3 Ride safe & Ride Often! Here is a link to a bunch of our useful Free vids: www.lawabidingbiker.com/freevideos Here is a link to some of our useful for purchase videos: www.lawabidingbiker.com/buyvideos Want Answers & Information Fast? And help support us at the same time? Do you like the content we provide? Our patrons get answers to their questions/comments/feedback in less than 24 hrs and are part of our Private Facebook Group. If you are interested in being in this exclusive group you can get all the details at ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/patreon If you haven't subscribed to the Law Abiding Biker Podcast make sure to do so. Listen in as we talk weekly about issues/items like this & so much more. You can listen on iTunes (Apple/IOS), Stitcher Radio (Android), or any other Podcast App ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/podcast Join our free email club at /www.LawAbidingBiker.com/EmailClub. Only relevant content will be sent from time to time. Email club members are the first to find out about free or for sale content are given special coupon codes.
I wonder how many times this guy says:"Biker" in this video. I suspect 100 to 200 times plus.jk I'm very grateful for the video thank you and good day Sincerely
Hey Ryan like your video's... I just bought a powervision tuner through my HD local dealership I didnt get any thing back after they tuned it is there a different version where you dont get a monitor and cord ?
The great thing about power vision, and a way to save money is to have the ECM re-flashed. Power vision is capable of this. You or your dealership will buy license that will be married to your bike, and can be re-flashed as many time as you want to do it. when they're done tuning they pull off the hardware. Hope this helps.
I did the same, pv done by the hd dealer : The dealer Works pv on licence base. He install pv for you on base of your bike ( configuration) at that moment. You dont get the hardware pv stuff. Also you dont need those if your bike is tuned. The price is way lower then purchase a full device. In the Nederlands the sofware tuning is about 225 ,_ Negative: you have to go back to the dealer if You need /want retune. Positive no problems with warranty and on risck of that dealer. If you want to tune 1 time and leave it that way it is an option. Note: the dealer tune is onley narro band, What means it optimize the part in witch You dayley drive, so not the Max rpm area.
I have a 103 that I put a stage 110ci stage 4 kit and had a FP3 on it. I’m leaving the FP3 to a power vision ( license agreement only no display) simply because of the complications and tinkering that you can easily get it the habit with both the FP3 and the power vision.
I have called dyno jet and they thought this is the best option for the 99% of us that just want all the power/ torque and best running capability from the professionals.
Wish I was the 1%er who could tinker. From all accounts, they said i will see and feel a difference to throttle response. 🤞🏻🙏
How did you unlock the ecm to install the dyno?
@@aureliosalinas7683 I had it done at the H-D dealer
After I had my Power Vision a year, I met a tech at a Dyno Jet mobile dyno during bike week. Everything was running fine, but he suggested I take some time playing around with the Quick Tune. This program has limits on what you can change and how much, so it won't let you damage your bike. But you can make gradual changes in the fuel map to get more or less out of your bike than the Auto Tune will give you. Watch the gauges. MPG, Knock Sensor and Engine Temp are the important ones. Less fuel will give better MPG at the expense of higher Engine Temp and less torque and acceleration. But there is an optimal point where less fuel is just less of everything. More fuel gives more power at lower MPG and engine temperature. But more fuel also means less air since one displaces the other. So it is just like the coffeemaker. You want to find out the right amount of grounds (fuel) and the right amount of water (air) to get what you want out of your bike. It can be a long slow process making gradual changes and charting what each does to MPG and Engine Temp and riding the interstate for a few miles on each setting. But in the end you will gain control over your bike that the throttle just can't give you. At the end of the day you can clear the Quick Tune back to zero and be right back where you started. I found it was great advice that I am glad to pass on.
7heRedBaron Awesome and well put!!
Hey Ryan, I didn't buy your video on this topic because I have owned a Power Vision for my Dyna for two years, and I have been making good use of it. So, as you warned here, this video probably isn't a wise purchase for me, and as a result I cannot directly comment on the video. But I can comment on Harleys in general. Nothing on them is from the Dollar Store. A simple Power Vision without the Auto Tuner is about $500. A few extra dollars for a video to properly install something and save a few hundred dollars at the dealer or save from ruining an expensive O2 sensor is just a no brainer. I just think people forget the true risk they are taking when they work on their bikes themselves and the value of having a step by step video over a black and white instruction sheet with stick drawings. Every time I do a job myself for the first time, it always takes 4 times longer. So I appreciate knowing I can find detailed videos to cut short the inevitable trial and error process I would face otherwise. Keep up your good work.
7heRedBaron That is very kind of you and thank you for the feedback. I sincerely appreciate it! That is what we set out to do; bikers helping bikers. Many see one of our very few for purchase videos and forget about all the free tutorial videos on this TH-cam Channel. and our free weekly podcast So, we really appreciate comments such as this!
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I agree since I put one of LAB's Heated Hand Grips video's to good use on my 13 RG. The updates are also included with the price. Ryan does a great job on filming and puts his heart into it!
Where do you put the tuner in auto tune if you dont want to install on your handlebars. could you put it in your pocket?
I'm buying one for my rg limited 114!
Ryan what mount are you using for the power vision turner that appears at 29 Seconds in this video???
Ryan, I made a video that mentioned this channel, and mentioned this video on it. I am hoping that some of my subscribers will comment on your videos. The video I made is a featured video right now until I upload another video. Keep up the good videos. I was thinking about getting that for my bike that you mentioned in this video sometime soon.
I wanted to add a second comment intended to the other viewers. I don't think most people understand right off why they need to retune their bikes after an engine mod like exhaust, but it's really simple to understand. When I make coffee in the morning, I put a couple spoons of coffee in the filter, my 15 oz. cup and the right amount of water in the machine. It is all computer controlled, and I know the cup isn't going to be overfilled or make the coffee too week. The bike works exactly like this. If you put more water in your coffee maker, it isn't going to know the difference. It is still going to make the same amount of coffee until you tell it different. And if you put a larger cup on the tray, it isn't going to know until you tell the computer you want more coffee too. So that's what the tuner does. Put a smaller cup in the tray and you are going to make a mess. Whether you use an FP3, Power Vision or any other. If you get a tuner that requires maps, then anytime you want a different cup, you need to download another map and hope it isn't going to spill your coffee all over the counter. Not the best. The Auto Tune process on the Power Vision works this recipe out and then saves it until you want to try something different. That's what it does.
7heRedBaron Another great comment! Thanks for weighing in.
Can this be used on different bikes or does it have to stay with one bike
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@@RyanUrlacher Not true, you can buy separate "keys" so you can use it on different bikes. It's the "key" that's married to the bike, not the Power Vision.
Ur doing gods work guys!🫡
I have a 06 Street Glide 88 cubic inch that doesn't have O2 sensors so which one do you buy cuz all you guys talk about is the ones with O2 sensors could you give me a answer for I know what I want to buy I want to put dual exhaust on thanks
Charlie brady 06 is the last yr with no 02 sensors. If u want 02 sensors they can be welded on. Depends what u want to do. With an 88 inch I wouldn’t bother. A Vance and Hines fp3 would do fine for you.
I just purchased a power vision I am lost with this thing. I have Vance and Hines short shots and a screamin eagle high flow air filter and need to tune it at its maximum potential. Btw it's a sportster will This video cover all that? I'm trying to just find a quick map
Itamajano try quick tune, I’m new too but I called dynojet they gave me a download that worked great. No decell pops and more power..wat h the videos on you tube
I bought A new bike have The Screaming Eagle Super Tuner Pro got a video bad choice in module ?
Douglas Davis What timing Douglas. Not a huge fan of the SERT. They are basic at best and HD's go to unit. You literally have to ride around with a laptop in a saddlebag to gather any data. A friend of ours has a SERT on his CVO Street Glide. Nothing but problems. We are actually switching it out to an FP3 or Power Vision in the next week or so. FP3: www.lawabidingbiker.com/Fuelpak3
Power Vision ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/powervision
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Douglas Davis had one on my CVO now looking how to install my new power vision .
Does this do the same thing as the FP3 device from vance and hines?
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Tofflemire5 way more than the Vance and Hines. The fp3 won’t do for my 110
you guys keep talking about how 95% of your content is free, but every video I have clicked on is you guys just sitting around talking about all your "videos for bikers by bikers" for sale... Misleading titles, that don't show jack shit...
tyee4u Unfortunately you did not spend much time looking brother. I will make it easy for you. Our audience knows better. Yah, we do sell some for obvious reasons. It costs to make all the free stuff. Here ya go. Free stuff for ya. www.lawabidingbiker.com/freevideos.
Here are more links and free stuff if that is all your looking for. www.lawabidingbiker.com/getstarted
ENJOY AND YOUR WELCOME!!
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power vision or V&H FP3,what do you think of the 2,and which do you think is a better product ??
We prefer the FP3
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Dave Surrey with the fp3 can we remove the speed limiter
Dave Surrey power vision can do so much more, plus I need the extra powervision does for my CVO 110. Fp3 r ok
I wonder how many times this guy says:"Biker" in this video. I suspect 100 to 200 times plus.jk I'm very grateful for the video thank you and good day Sincerely
Is this a product that I could use so I dont have to dyna my bike
Yes
Hey Ryan like your video's... I just bought a powervision tuner through my HD local dealership I didnt get any thing back after they tuned it is there a different version where you dont get a monitor and cord ?
Not that I'm aware of. Unless you just got the Power Commander V?
The great thing about power vision, and a way to save money is to have the ECM re-flashed. Power vision is capable of this. You or your dealership will buy license that will be married to your bike, and can be re-flashed as many time as you want to do it. when they're done tuning they pull off the hardware. Hope this helps.
I did the same, pv done by the hd dealer :
The dealer Works pv on licence base. He install pv for you on base of your bike ( configuration) at that moment.
You dont get the hardware pv stuff. Also you dont need those if your bike is tuned.
The price is way lower then purchase a full device.
In the Nederlands the sofware tuning is about 225 ,_
Negative: you have to go back to the dealer if You need /want retune. Positive no problems with warranty and on risck of that dealer.
If you want to tune 1 time and leave it that way it is an option.
Note: the dealer tune is onley narro band, What means it optimize the part in witch You dayley drive, so not the Max rpm area.
First video when people say fp3 is great ?! On any forum or other youtube channels people say fps is worthless POS …. Im lost at this point ?
i just order pv from fuel moto.👍👍
just give a carb!
Lol