Why I am Pro Life (I'm Actually Pro-Choice Everyone. Watch the whole thing.)

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  • In which I talk about why I think I can be pro life too...
    I am not actually pro life in the abortion debate sense. The video is an attempt to highlight the fact that you can't call yourself pro life if you care nothing about human life once it is out of the womb. programs like welfare, proper gun control laws, and ending domestic violence are all ways we can save lives and be 'pro life' I was trying my best to portray that. :)
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  • @JacobThomasMPLS
    @JacobThomasMPLS  11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    lol, I completely agree. It really gets me when they care nothing for a child after it's born but by golly they are gonna make damn sure it gets born before they stop giving a fuck about it.

  • @LukeShoemaker22
    @LukeShoemaker22 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm Libertarian, so no, not all gay people are huge liberals.

  • @finniangallagher8172
    @finniangallagher8172 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jacob you present a broad canvas and a well thought-out pro-Life argument. I'm so pleased that I subscribed to your site from when I heard you speak.
    That's the spirit that the world needs to hear - a seamless garment presentation - which describes the garment worn by Christ.

  • @catherinemichelle7260
    @catherinemichelle7260 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    love how feminists will say pro life men cannot have a say on abortion, but prochoice men can.

    • @maddieashton6609
      @maddieashton6609 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      They can have a say because they aren't trying to take away a woman's right. Women make up 19.4 % of congress, and I don't think it's cool that men rule so much over women. If tomorrow by some strange miracle the congress magically became 80% women and 20% men, everyone would flip their shit because nobody wants to be represented and potentially have personal rights taken away by a group of people who have little understanding of your needs.

    • @catherinemichelle7260
      @catherinemichelle7260 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maddie Ashton uh why not judge someone based on their beliefs and the things they have done for/to others rather than their gender? And I think the government has no say on abortion or a woman's reproductive right, and that medicaid/medicare should not cover women's birth control. Because if medicare can cover it, then it should not come as a suprise if government gets involved in reproductive rights. Duh.

    • @catherinemichelle7260
      @catherinemichelle7260 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maddie Ashton oh and to get in to office, you need to be voted it. By the people, for the people, since women can vote, it does not matter if it is mostly men.

    • @tudorarada46
      @tudorarada46 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Catherine Michelle Love how you just generalized a whole group of people!

  • @JacobThomasMPLS
    @JacobThomasMPLS  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is a point I am trying to make. I am actually very strongly pro choice. What this video is attempting to show is that supporting a woman's right to choice by making procedures affordable and safe ensure we don't lose the life of the mother who is forced to get an abortion through other means. Also, by supporting the other efforts I listed we are protect the lives of countless others. In summation, I challenge the notion that you can be 'pro life' and not care about humans after birth.

  • @TheDeuces222
    @TheDeuces222 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let me share why I am pro life..I am a gay 21 year old from Kansas City, and I am pro-life in the same sense that you are, I dont want to make women do what politicians say they can do but I am a prolife because my dad was adopted when he was born from a 14 year old girl who wasnt sure if she was going to keep the baby or not, I will never say to someone "you have to keep that baby" because its none of my business, but I wouldnt be here if my real grandma who i met recently chose differently..

  • @JacobThomasMPLS
    @JacobThomasMPLS  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think that is a great point. :) I think there are plenty of avenues other than abortion that someone can take but not every avenue is right for every person or situation. Adoption can be a great thing, in fact I two adopted brothers and I love them! I just like you think it's not my place or anyone else's to tell a woman what she can and can't do with her body. That is between her and her doctor. :) Thanks for watching and again great point, I totally agree!

  • @DeoVolenteNL
    @DeoVolenteNL 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this guy is basically saying "you cant be pro life because you are anti life in so many other ways"... this is the best you can do bro? That's like me telling (possibly) you that being a vegetarian is hypocritical since you're eating the animals food and supporting the soya plantations that are ruining the Amazon day in day out in a hurry. You need to philosophize about the abortion debate and not view it politically alone.

  • @JacobThomasMPLS
    @JacobThomasMPLS  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am not actually pro life in the abortion debate sense. The video is an attempt to highlight the fact that you can't call yourself pro life if you care nothing about human life once it is out of the womb. programs like welfare, proper gun control laws, and ending domestic violence are all ways we can save lives and be 'pro life'. Sorry that it wasn't clearer. :( I was trying my best to portray that. :)

  • @l0gically
    @l0gically 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally, someone that has articulated the difference between "pro-life" and "pro-birth".

  • @gilligangonenowheretomorro7947
    @gilligangonenowheretomorro7947 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    very well said... why are all pro-lifers so worried about saving every single embryo when they are still in the womb, but could not care less what happens to them once they take their first breath of air...
    this defies all logic...

  • @user-jr2iu7ks3x
    @user-jr2iu7ks3x 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent video. I believe being pro-life means supporting life from womb to tomb and that includes a lot more than aggressive campaigns against abortion or euthanasia. Your video reminds me of the only pro-life document I like and I am not Catholic. The papal document, Humanae Vitae, outlines many things that are part of being pro-life and it includes things such as good working conditions, reasonable pay for employees and the like. Once again, excellent video. I really liked how you brought GLBT youth suicide into being pro-life.

  • @NapoleonCalland
    @NapoleonCalland 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    As someone who's anti abortion but pro choice for the reasons you alluded to, I think the issue of women being pressured into abortion by a partner or spouse needs remembering, but as you said, the "pro life" argument ignores the fact that prohibition wouldn't solve that problem. Equally, if a state does ban abortion, they should be legally obliged to provide for the children born as a result. And I'd argue that proper psychological support in the long term should be obligatory either way.

  • @Codymeister99
    @Codymeister99 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video! These are concepts that all "pro lifers" need to consider. Unfortunately the vast majority of "pro lifers" only care about the pre born, not the post born.

  • @Ray3645
    @Ray3645 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You seem much happier -- freer and relieved -- as compared to when you did your coming out video. Glad you are feeling better about who you are and life in general.

  • @finniangallagher8172
    @finniangallagher8172 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jacob I listened to your message on 10/ '20 when did you record it - some messages are dated as. " 7 years ago"

  • @JacobThomasMPLS
    @JacobThomasMPLS  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not... I would love to be but I just don't like enough fruits and vegetables to actually survive as a vegetarian. haha

  • @lindseyhunt1576
    @lindseyhunt1576 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am pro life and a Christian and I hate the bad name that some others have given people like me. I do not only care about babies in the womb, it is because I care for humans at all stages of life that I am pro life at all. I think that it is absolutely terrible that some people tell you that you can't give your baby up and then turn their backs on you when you ask for help in caring for them. But isn't it better that you give the child at least a CHANCE at having a happy life instead of just assuming that you know best and take away their chance?
    I am sorry for those of my religion that see fit to hate anyone that is different from them. I do not believe that. God loves everyone and so must we. Granted I don't always succeed but I am trying and you can't just stereotype me. Wasn't it the liberal community that hated stereotypes so much? And now you place them on Christians simply because SOME of us conform to this. I do not. And it is so very frustrating to be stereotyped.

    • @maddieashton6609
      @maddieashton6609 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are a lot of aspects of raising a child that would make abortion in the best interest of the mother and the fetus. If a mother wants to terminate pregnancy, that's up to her. Not you. If a woman doesn't want to go through mid-life depression because her body is left with stretch marks, then that's up to her. If a woman can't raise a child because she has no money, that's up to her. Mind you, there are so many kids in the US that do not get adopted or stay in foster care their wholes lives. And kids who grow up in foster care are statistically more likely to go to prison or get wrapped up in crime. And I don't see any "followers of God" willing to adopt a bunch of American babies. So if you can't provide for that baby, why the hell is it any of your business? That's why it's called pro-choice, not pro-abortion. Because if a woman seeks out help she deserves the choice.

    • @lindseyhunt1576
      @lindseyhunt1576 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maddie Ashton The reason that most people, who want to adopt, won't is because it's so much money just to get the child. I would be more than willing to adopt if it didn't cost 40,000 dollars to do so. Also, at least adoption gives them a chance. Abortion doesn't give them a chance at all.

    • @maddieashton6609
      @maddieashton6609 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lindsey Hunt It's true, however, I'd much rather side with a woman who already has a life and plans ahead of her, who could possibly have to raise the child alone after her boyfriend leaves her, than a fetus that could very well die further into the pregnancy

    • @lindseyhunt1576
      @lindseyhunt1576 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maddie Ashton I do understand your point but I also just think that people should wait until they're married to have sex at all. I would never judge anyone for having sex before marriage of course, but they know the risks and they chose to have sex anyway so I just can't say that killing a child is ok under any circumstances. Now if we brought up the issue of rape, obviously that is so hard. But, only 0.1% of abortions are because of rape. And why should we punish the child for the crimes of his/her parent? Sorry I keep going on and on I just really like to argue this stuff. I did a whole project on it in school. Which, in a very liberal school, did not go over very well with the vast majority of my classmates.

    • @willowl.3263
      @willowl.3263 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Lindsey Hunt People will never stop having sex before marriage.

  • @josephmillraney361
    @josephmillraney361 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jacob, a BIG, BIG thumbs up for this video. You are spot on! And you simply have to make more videos. The ones I've seen are wonderful.

  • @chicagolandyouthabolitioni1205
    @chicagolandyouthabolitioni1205 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you cant cay that if you protect life outside of the womb but not inside. that's just being like the rest of the pro choicers. or the pro life "with exceptions" people.

  • @JacobThomasMPLS
    @JacobThomasMPLS  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks! That's a great idea. :)

  • @arthurvanessen5390
    @arthurvanessen5390 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m pro-life in that way too!

  • @voodooprincess11
    @voodooprincess11 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Misleading title. You can't say you are 'pro-life' and be for the legalized murder of innocent and helpless children.

    • @JacobThomasMPLS
      @JacobThomasMPLS  9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The entire point is to call into question the misleading rhetoric that claims anti-woman and anti-choice legislation is "pro-life." When, in fact, pro-choice legislation actually helps saves lives and being pro-life should actually mean being FOR progressive, comprehensive policies that help people.

    • @battlekidrules
      @battlekidrules 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Jacob Thomas Did pro-choice legislation help the around 54 million children who were put to death in the name of "women's rights"?

    • @wyattwahlgren8883
      @wyattwahlgren8883 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wonder when these pro-choicers are ever going to use science? Oh wait, once they do use science, they're going to be pro-life.

    • @Azt-d9l
      @Azt-d9l 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shut the fuck up with "innocent" children shit. A fetus is literally a united egg and sperm that leeches on to the uterus like a parasite. It can't even feel pain nor does it have a heart beat or a brain

    • @wyattwahlgren8883
      @wyattwahlgren8883 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      It has a heartbeat at 6 weeks and develop nerves at 7 weeks. By the way, is a parasite life? I can answer that by saying it is life. Parasites are organisms that live in other organisms at the expense of the host, but the fetus is innocent because the fetus did not choose to be conceived. Do you remember when you chose to be conceived? That's right, you didn't. So how is the fetus not innocent?

  • @philip77006
    @philip77006 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are absolutely right!

  • @Javier3DD
    @Javier3DD 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Although I appreciate varying opinions, yours seem to be very contradicting. We as men could never experience pregnancy and the issues that women face under these circumstances; the lack of empathy from your part is a bit disturbing.

  • @benth162
    @benth162 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hmmm.... Interesting..... Maybe you would like to raise about a dozen of those babies that someone didn't want, whose mothers were forced to take it to full term. See, young man what you don't understand is that you or nobody else has a right to dictate what a woman does with her body. If you want to get pregnant and then go in for a cesarean section then have at it.
    Think about what you support before opening your mouth in support of something that also affects our gay community, and that is having someone tell you that maybe you deserve to go through mandated psychiatric care because your gay. See, the very thing you came out for, you negate because of a righteous feelings about babies. Do you know many babies die around the world every day. THOUSANDS, AND IF EVERY ONE OF THEM LIVED WE'D HAVE SO MANY HUMANS ON THIS PLANET WE COULD NOT FEED THEM ALL !!!
    THINK ABOUT IT.

    • @rhisspecialinterest
      @rhisspecialinterest 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's actually highlighted that he's only pro-life in the sense of caring about people and by sense of abortion he is pro-choice.

    • @benth162
      @benth162 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well yes it actually is, idiot. You and nobody can tell when a soul comes into a body. You sound like that dip-shit who believes that young children don't belong to the parents but to the state. Is that what you are promoting? You may not like dying babies, but a woman's body is sacrosanct to her and had better be to men who think they can dictate what she does with it. And you think I am the sick one !

    • @benth162
      @benth162 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am talking to anyone who will listen. Men have no right over a woman's body period, regardless of the sniveling emotional blathering of self righteous morons who think the world is their oyster to do with as the please.
      It is the sickest of pronunciations that someone wanting to control others through guilt by the manipulation of someone else using babies. This argument goes far beyond life and is a fight to understand the foundations of what makes humans, human !!!
      It boils down to this NO ONE HAS RIGHTS OVER ANOTHER HUMAN BEING WITH ONLY ONE EXCEPTION, THE MOTHER OVER HER UNBORN CHILD !!!

    • @benth162
      @benth162 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then I suggest you spend some time at the hospital adopting every unwanted baby and lets see how long your finances last without outside help. You seemingly have a good heart, but no sense of the reality we live in. Do you actually believe you own a woman womb? If you do then you are actually part of the problem humanity is trying to solve. HOW TO ALLOW EACH OTHER TO BE THEMSELVES, NO MATTER HOW MUCH WE AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH THEIR RIGHT OF SELF DETERMINATION.
      DON'T BE A PART OF THE PROBLEM. REMEMBER; SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS KNOWS NO BOUNDS !

    • @benth162
      @benth162 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please do not reply again. You have proven that you are sniveling moron who believes he can tell other what to think and believe.
      Fuque off you little twit.

  • @MidnightRambler
    @MidnightRambler 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    oh dear,this is why trump won..this victim victim crap

  • @rascalrich
    @rascalrich 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I get it! And you'll get no argument from me... :)