Johann Nepomuk Hummel - Piano Concerto No. 2 in A minor, Op. 85 (1816)

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  • Johann Nepomuk Hummel (14 November 1778 - 17 October 1837) was an Austrian composer and virtuoso pianist. His music reflects the transition from the Classical to the Romantic musical era.
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    Piano Concerto No.2 in A minor, Op. 85 (1816)
    1. Allegro moderato (0:00)
    2. Larghetto (15:28)
    3. Rondo - Allegro moderato (19:52)
    Stephen Hough and the English Chamber Orchestra conducted by Bryden Thomson
    Description by Robert Cummings [-]
    Even into the twenty first century, Hummel's music is being assessed and reassessed, always with the view that his genius has been consistently underrated. His piano concertos are among his greatest accomplishments, and he might have excelled in the symphony too, had he not taken to heart so seriously his rivalry with Beethoven. Hummel's Second and Third piano concertos are undoubtedly his most popular, though even they have enjoyed paltry few recordings and relatively meager representation in the concert halls.
    The A minor Second is cast in three movements: a lengthy Allegro moderato is followed by a very brief Larghetto and a substantial Rondo (Allegro moderato). The first movement opens with a long orchestral introduction wherein the striking main theme is immediately presented by the strings, a theme whose character is both restless and heroic, looking back toward the darker side of Mozart as well as to the contemporary grandiosity of Beethoven. An alternate melody follows, a jovial, proud creation introduced by the flute. When the piano enters, it gives a lighter treatment to the thematic material that is lighter in touch, but not in emotional expressivity. Hummel's development is full of deft elaborations and brilliant piano writing. His orchestration will recall Beethoven's throughout this movement, but his music has an individuality and great beauty, even if his contrapuntal skills fall a bit short of his great rival's.
    The short second movement Larghetto serves as a kind of pleasant interlude between the two larger outer panels. The theme here is delicate and graceful in its Classical sweetness, its music having an almost mesmerizing serenity making one wish it would linger beyond its lovely five minutes. The Rondo finale follows without pause, the piano introducing a somewhat exotic rhythmic theme that gradually picks up momentum and richer textures. The music is striking here, the melody instantly sticking in the mind, so much so as to make the alternate material initially sound less interesting by contrast. The more subdued music that alternates with this theme is revealed upon second and third hearing, however, to be just as finely imagined as the opening theme. In the end, this concerto must be assessed as standing on about the same plateau as Beethoven's first two piano concertos.
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  • @PieInTheSky9
    @PieInTheSky9 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    This is the Concerto the 11 year old Franz Liszt performed during his very first public performance. His playing recieved rave reviews in the press.

  • @jackyli992
    @jackyli992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    I feel like Hummel possesses the form of the Classical era, and the style of the Romantic era.

    • @test-xe4cl
      @test-xe4cl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly

    • @timothythorne9464
      @timothythorne9464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This sounds more like Beethoven than Mozart, but it's more tuneful than most Beethoven

    • @vaclavmiller8032
      @vaclavmiller8032 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it's more romantic sensibility in a Classical idiom.

    • @EntelSidious_gamzeylmz
      @EntelSidious_gamzeylmz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@timothythorne9464 more like early 1800s beethoven though

    • @loganfruchtman953
      @loganfruchtman953 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yea he’s both but I consider him more of a classical composer

  • @MorganHayes_Composer.Pianist
    @MorganHayes_Composer.Pianist ปีที่แล้ว +39

    5:02 Chopin must surely have modelled his 1st Piano Concerto in e minor, piano entry on this. Chopin was a genius, but his style didn't spring out of nowhere.

    • @SILAS-cb9xl
      @SILAS-cb9xl ปีที่แล้ว +5

      i mean that‘s how it works composer influence each other and you see and hear it.

    • @cugurra24
      @cugurra24 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sluchajac tego koncertu ma sie wrażenie, że to trzeci, nienapisany koncert Chopina. Obaj byli wielkimi kompozytorami, a prawdziwy geniusz Chopina objawil sie w jego późniejszych, miniaturowych formach.

    • @user-lj1sc9bs4t
      @user-lj1sc9bs4t หลายเดือนก่อน

      アルカンの存在を忘れないでください、この曲の超絶技巧は間違いなくアルカンに受け継がれました。

    • @jessevallejo8797
      @jessevallejo8797 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It might have influences of Hummel, but you need to listen to the Kalkbrenner piano concerto.

    • @gabrielgabriel8096
      @gabrielgabriel8096 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Obviously Chopin knew very well Hummel's music and piano formulas, etc... 29:16 min. for example.
      Yes, no genius springs out of nowhere.

  • @TRIHEDRAL
    @TRIHEDRAL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +207

    Hummel might be the single most underrated composer of the entire classical era. There is so much Mozart, Mendelssohn, and Chopin bridged together in this mega-masterpiece, I don't even know where to begin

    • @axelguibourg8993
      @axelguibourg8993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      What about Balakirev, Moszkovsky, Field, Lyapunov, Rubinstein, Czerny, Thalberg...?

    • @op-th1yx
      @op-th1yx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@axelguibourg8993 Czerny and Thalberg? Hahahahahahaha. Thalberg has a transcription I kinda dig though, but most of his music is eh I would say. He was probably a much better pianist than composer

    • @LearnThaiRapidMethod
      @LearnThaiRapidMethod 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, I hadn’t heard about him before, or at least I had totally forgotten about him (coz I already have all his piano sonatas in my collection). This concerto sounds a bit like Mozart’s 40th Symphony in the beginning and then some elements from Beethoven’s 4th Piano Concerto. So who borrowed who’s ideas? Well, Hummel actually lived in Mozart’s house (in fact, he slept with the household pets) and so he was probably steeped in the music of`Mozart and the other contemporaries. He was about the same age as Beethoven too (actually 8 years younger). Amazing that as a mere dogsbody, he was able to compose such sophisticated music!
      (They must have all been good mates and drinking buddies, and had fantastic parties in those days….)

    • @op-th1yx
      @op-th1yx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@LearnThaiRapidMethod This concerto definitely has many of the elements incorporated in the Beethoven concerto you mentioned. I haven't noticed that before!

    • @mr.p5446
      @mr.p5446 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He is extremely respected ! Chopin loved him ! He is a genius ! Not like Chopin tho .

  • @gururkeremsakar9812
    @gururkeremsakar9812 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Here is the father of Chopin's first Piano Concerto!

    • @zeynepy
      @zeynepy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Resmen (ç)almış şaşırdım doğrusu, Hummel'ın si minör konçertosundan da andıran kısımlar var

    • @loganfruchtman953
      @loganfruchtman953 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’d say Mendelssohn’s first piano concerto

    • @SaintSaens0
      @SaintSaens0 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Kalbrenner pc 2

    • @loganfruchtman953
      @loganfruchtman953 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SaintSaens0 Mendelssohn, Chopin Kalkbrenner

  • @byronsutherland1380
    @byronsutherland1380 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Astounding performance by Stephen Hough.

    • @marcellouswp31
      @marcellouswp31 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      From memory it was Hough's breakthrough recording.

  • @TrebleWoofer1
    @TrebleWoofer1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    And to think that an 11-year old Liszt astonished the Viennese public with this work in 1822 :o

  • @amgx9670
    @amgx9670 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    that ending is insane

  • @Fumozart
    @Fumozart ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hummel's concerti also deserve million views on TH-cam

  • @nikol4y.l
    @nikol4y.l 5 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    seems like Chopin took figuration from 29:15 to put in his etude op. 10 no. 4

    • @rakeshkrishna1795
      @rakeshkrishna1795 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nikolai Lester literally a lot of Chopin and Beethoven

    • @manuelbes
      @manuelbes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Not suprised. That was an early work, op 10,Chopin definitely got inspired. Hummel is cited a lot of times by Chopin (I think).

    • @nimrodshefer3649
      @nimrodshefer3649 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Well after all chopin played this concerto

    • @rakeshkrishna1795
      @rakeshkrishna1795 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      נימרוד שפר truly??

    • @nimrodshefer3649
      @nimrodshefer3649 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@rakeshkrishna1795 yes, of course, he also played moscheles 3 concerto

  • @openmusic3904
    @openmusic3904 5 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    Hummel is quickly becoming one of my favourite composers. He has a wonderfully unique style. Every single time I listen to him I come away with a magical impression. There is something extremely enchanting, wistful, and beguiling about Hummel's music

    • @timothythorne9464
      @timothythorne9464 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      OpenMusic he's grossly underrated as a composer. This concerto is one of the finest of the early Romantic era, and is worthy to stand along side Chopin's and Mendelssohn's essays in this form. And it's brilliant, and the orchestral writing is very felicitous for the piano solo.

    • @richardweil8813
      @richardweil8813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just discovering him too. He got overshadowed by a few of the people he knew: Mozart, Haydn and his friend Beethoven. Certainly wasn't much behind them, and at least was well respected in his own life. His wife was quite an opera star in her own career too.

    • @johnvalentine4720
      @johnvalentine4720 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@richardweil8813 'Certainly wasn't much behind them (Mozart, Haydn & Beethoven)' -- maybe in some parallel universe.

    • @erika6651
      @erika6651 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@johnvalentine4720 This individual
      composition is absolutely extraordinary and is a masterpiece that can compete with other Composer's concerti. Nothing else Hummel wrote can compare in a similar manner. Unique ideas are found throughout his pieces, but none come together as a whole as this one did.

    • @Cherodar
      @Cherodar ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@erika6651 Nothing else Hummel wrote? What about the B minor concerto? I think if anything it's even a bit stronger than this one (though they're both awesome).

  • @alanclifford1337
    @alanclifford1337 6 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Hummel has found his rightful place at last. Neglected for too long, his unique voice is giving much pleasure alongside Mozart, Haydn, Beethoven and Schubert.

    • @shnimmuc
      @shnimmuc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How right you are.

    • @shnimmuc
      @shnimmuc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Marquis De Sade How right you are. And do not forget Gluck, JC Bach and Clementi.

  • @metteholm4833
    @metteholm4833 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Hummels music is full of warmth and kindness. I believe, he was a kind man. He looks kind in pictures.

    • @MorganHayes_Composer.Pianist
      @MorganHayes_Composer.Pianist 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Czerny charged less for piano lessons though which is why Liszt studied with him as opposed to Hummel.

    • @maggoteater2290
      @maggoteater2290 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@MorganHayes_Composer.Pianist so charging less means he is a better person ? Make that make sense

    • @user-lj1sc9bs4t
      @user-lj1sc9bs4t หลายเดือนก่อน

      音楽には性格が現れますね

  • @ivankuligovskii5046
    @ivankuligovskii5046 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hummel was the favorite student of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart! And we really can see (hear) why

  • @cminor3016
    @cminor3016 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Every time I go to work this fills me with overflowing optimism.

  • @ircensko7324
    @ircensko7324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Chopin didn't fall down from the heavens after all

  • @francescoelia.marino
    @francescoelia.marino 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    A beautiful concerto, I really don't get why these concerti are not played more often by concert pianists.

    • @rjuttemeijer
      @rjuttemeijer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Because they fear that hardly anyone will come to their concert. If you play Mozart, Beethoven and all the other big names you know you will have a sold out house.

    • @francescoelia.marino
      @francescoelia.marino 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@rjuttemeijer yes, also pianists can not really differentiate themselves if they all play the same things over and over......

    • @christianwouters6764
      @christianwouters6764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Also because orchestra players sometimes don't like to learn Parts they are unfamiliar with. In queen Elisabeth competition for piano now in Belgium here the candidates have to choose one of 5 Mozart concertos of the 27. I suspect the orchestra members would complain to much if required to study new parts.

    • @francescoelia.marino
      @francescoelia.marino 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@christianwouters6764 that is also an interesting point but they should try anyway I think, Beethoven and Mozart ate great but there are many other great composers!

    • @dap4699
      @dap4699 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm glad of reading a sensible chat.

  • @findelka1810
    @findelka1810 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    excellent! The single person bridge between Mozart and Chopin! Love this!

  • @seniorosity68
    @seniorosity68 6 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Hummel obviously composed this concerto on an 88-key equal-temperament-tuned piano. How wonderful it would have been if such a piano had been available to Mozart, Beethoven and their contemporaries! Yes, you can easily detect Hummel’s influence on Chopin and even on Mendelssohn.

    • @musik350
      @musik350 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      From what I see, he indeed composed it _not_ on a 88 key piano, instead on the one Beethoven indeed used, from Contra-C to F''''.

    • @kentrosaurusboi3909
      @kentrosaurusboi3909 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@musik350 Yes, these pianos hadn't even been invented yet, the best you could do was a Pleyel or an Erard, and even those are in the 1830s, this was written in 1816, so think more Stein and Fritz, basically a fortepiano with extended range, and actual pedals besides the knee levers

  • @jannis5046
    @jannis5046 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I like how the "Doppio movimento" section sounds pretty similar to Chopin's Etude op. 10 no. 4 and 16th Prelude at some point, Chopin must have been inspired a lot by Hummel.

    • @ruramikael
      @ruramikael 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, it is quite documented.

  • @visibledarkness1181
    @visibledarkness1181 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    To me Hummel feels almost like the precursor to Alkan. Everything from Hummel's, (at times) impressionistic music, his humour, the way he weaves so seamlessly between major and minors, the ability to create walls of sound, being somewhat less known than a lot of the major composers, etc there is a lot of commonality between the two.

  • @nickb220
    @nickb220 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    1816? incredible. surely he was the greatest pianist of his time

  • @richardharting2490
    @richardharting2490 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    A perfect piano concerto. Perfectly performed!

    • @richardharting2490
      @richardharting2490 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The performance by Shishkin and Pletnev is also perfect!

  • @bitchslappedme
    @bitchslappedme ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A Masterpiece and a masterful performance.

  • @herobrine1847
    @herobrine1847 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I should really practice my thirds...

  • @depechezvous8864
    @depechezvous8864 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Half classique and half early-romantique piece :) Beautiful!
    "His music reflects the transition from the Classical to the Romantic musical era.
    " - Of course, I agree :)

  • @d.o.7784
    @d.o.7784 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There is some sadness to this composition, Mozart was already long gone, Beethoven on the rise, Europe on the fall, the good old days were gone, and it was a new age of superficiality …. You can only imagine Hummel sitting in his candle lit room playing the sad melody of the 1st mov and lamenting his life….

  • @sergiosaucedo5834
    @sergiosaucedo5834 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Love the melody in the left hand at 14:36

  • @k545
    @k545 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Wow! A first time listen and I find this quite impressive! No wonder Mozart recognized his talent and let him study and live with him for free for two years. Reminds me of Chopin, but Chopin was only 6 when this was written. Even tho Beethoven is one of my favorites, I must reluctantly admit...that this piano concerto made a bigger impression on me than any of Beethoven's :/

    • @CobraBoss23
      @CobraBoss23 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      k545 this is nice but Beethoven concertos are on a different level

    • @dap4699
      @dap4699 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CobraBoss23 yet it takes a genius to identify another. In this case two.

    • @EntelSidious_gamzeylmz
      @EntelSidious_gamzeylmz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Whatismusic123 no 😃

    • @jcampac10
      @jcampac10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But by the time Chopin was composing his concerti, Hummel’s concerto would have been available to use as a model.

    • @rogerkorcia.girard5910
      @rogerkorcia.girard5910 ปีที่แล้ว

      Moi aussi / ich auch / me too . Total surprise , gross uberaschung .il est inclassable : merveilleux themas , merveilleuse orchestration , prodigieusement écrit pour le piano
      Bien au dessus de son célèbre Concerto. À réhabiliter d'urgence

  • @rjuttemeijer
    @rjuttemeijer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What a fantastic pianist!

    • @rogerknox9147
      @rogerknox9147 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Stephen Hough brings a dimension to Hummel that I've never heard before.

  • @CharlesDickens111
    @CharlesDickens111 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Splendid music

  • @HedbergHenrik
    @HedbergHenrik 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    How a human being can learn to play a piece like this is beyond the scope of my understanding.

    • @carryfreak5059
      @carryfreak5059 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Practice.

    • @kentrosaurusboi3909
      @kentrosaurusboi3909 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mochaa1727 I see you are a person of culture as well lol

    • @23crosspath
      @23crosspath 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is one of the BEST

  • @mr-wx3lv
    @mr-wx3lv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    What a superb concerto. That has to be right up their with the greatest of the era at least. And this is my first hearing of it. Shame it was punctuated by annoying ads, but that's how it is I'm afraid.
    Any concert organisers out there, please think about introducing this to the program. People would be amazed at this..

  • @guitaropro
    @guitaropro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I consider this piece along with the b-minor-Concerto as one of the best orchestral pieces written in the early Romantic style. The richness of fine melodies, the virtuosic and eloquent solo-part and the colorful orchestral setting together is amazing. Old Johann Nepomuk is here at the climax of his power as a composer. - Thanks for sharing.

    • @cminor3016
      @cminor3016 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for sharing your wisdom of this genre♥️

    • @radualexa1356
      @radualexa1356 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      B minor concerto? By who? Sorry for mi ignorance but I wanna know

    • @azulyth
      @azulyth 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@radualexa1356by Hummel

  • @orvvro
    @orvvro 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for uploading! Keep going Bartje

  • @Heilamt_music_turtledaihub
    @Heilamt_music_turtledaihub 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    When I am doing an essay on Chopin's Piano Concerto and found this as reference...
    I should have heard of his name before!!!

  • @milwaukeephil2548
    @milwaukeephil2548 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When someone asked me the difference between Mozart and Hummel I said, in my opinion, Mozart was the king of tonality while Hummel was the master of subtle ornamentation. Chopin had lots to build on.

  • @bennywang5752
    @bennywang5752 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Does this piece sound a lot like Chopin's first concerto or it just me

    • @peteklat
      @peteklat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, I agree.

    • @mcig98
      @mcig98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The chopin concertos were supposedly inspired by hummel (and mozart of course)

    • @SaintSaens0
      @SaintSaens0 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mcig98 more by kalkbrenner

  • @JLeeGraham
    @JLeeGraham ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Marvelous! Hummel must have been a wicked-good pianist. I'm not sure why he may have felt he was in competition with Beethoven, because the two players seem to have had very different skill sets, and Hummel's is every bit as impressive as Beethoven's, but it its own way. I've long been a fan of Hummel, and this only serves to strengthen that.

  • @htr98
    @htr98 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    finally, this concerto

  • @harshadrobertnaik548
    @harshadrobertnaik548 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I just love it and I have downloaded all of his music.

  • @user-lj1sc9bs4t
    @user-lj1sc9bs4t หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    フンメルは天才だ👏👏👏👏
    彼の音楽に脱帽

  • @_PROCLUS
    @_PROCLUS 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you very much for the wonderful upload

  • @franzeybler1499
    @franzeybler1499 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    5:34 lovely!!

  • @hectorreynoso6308
    @hectorreynoso6308 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just love it, amazing!

  • @user-uo3nt4cd7o
    @user-uo3nt4cd7o 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    5:34 how beautiful it is!

  • @TimondeNood
    @TimondeNood 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Didn't know about this one! Thanks for sharing music and background!

  • @alvarogarciabarbosa3199
    @alvarogarciabarbosa3199 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great beautiful concerto.

  • @renatoargh
    @renatoargh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Absolutely AWESOME

  • @IanGoncalves
    @IanGoncalves 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    thank you 1000x!
    I love this one

  • @solcarzemog5232
    @solcarzemog5232 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Endless flow of good ideas!!! Amazing

  • @ilyasozurakov2393
    @ilyasozurakov2393 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great performance!

  • @Xyriak
    @Xyriak 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Beautifully played

  • @Innperlenburg
    @Innperlenburg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of my favourites - simply astonishing.

  • @harshadrobertnaik548
    @harshadrobertnaik548 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just ❤️ and adore it specially when Howard Shelly have conducted the orchestra.

  • @zanexiao4488
    @zanexiao4488 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So many thanks for this upload! This is a gorgeous concerto. Tho Hummel's own No.3 I think is even better.

  • @gerasimosmakris8664
    @gerasimosmakris8664 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Heard him by chance on the radio in the car earlier this evening. And now again here, after dinner. What a great discovery! Superb!

  • @nunyacarrie8135
    @nunyacarrie8135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I cannot tahnk you enough for uploading this. I wanted to practise this forever. Thank you, thank you, thank you! 💖💖💖💖

  • @mirianashviliketevan8046
    @mirianashviliketevan8046 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    J'adore ce concerto!

  • @esdjesd8589
    @esdjesd8589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I cannot come to believe that Hummel is almost forgotten nowadays. Ok, not fully, but I’d rephrase that by saying he is not half as well known as he should be. In my mind, his music is THE quintessential tipping point between classicism and romanticism, and not even in the form of a transitionary style. I’ll stress it again: THE tipping point.

    • @esdjesd8589
      @esdjesd8589 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Martin Baldwin-Edwards
      It’s clear as day what you’re gesturing towards, but I’d recommend that you at least partially expand on that statement. I can see a bit of elitism from a million miles away.

    • @esdjesd8589
      @esdjesd8589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Martin Baldwin-Edwards
      I see. Just as a slight aside I must say that I am of the life-view (a view I consider much more deeply engrained than a simple opinion etc.) that the constant desire for musical development (rocket-fast development since the 15th century or so through to the baroques,, then classics, romantics, post-romantics, modernists etc.) can lead to an inspirational burnout, which is exactly what we have encountered in the so-called academic musical scene since about 1940. We can talk all we want about progressive new composers, but trying to be innovative just for the sake of innovation and turning music into cacophonous shite and finding ‘surprising new ways of expression’ (such as, say, trying to augment a piano by sticking crap into a piano to give it an ‘innovative new sound’) leads to ‘music’ which is completely anti-musical by its essence.
      This kind of attitude started with, just to name two, Schoenberg and Scriabin (whose early and mid-works I consider works of immense genius, by the way).
      Why does this tirade of mine matter? Well, if you impose value upon composers simply based on the level of their innovation and then banal term “genius” (what exactly is genius? what is not? A whole different discussion) you risk moving to destroying the whole sense of music itself. I have mixed feelings on stuff like John Cage’s 4’33” for example, but I couldn’t in a million years call him a genius. An innovator, yes. But not a genius.

  • @declankazem6111
    @declankazem6111 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I really love this music thank you 😊

  • @bogdankomorowski8638
    @bogdankomorowski8638 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Fantastycznie technicznie rozbudowany koncert i także zagrany. Urzeka mnie melodyjność tematów w ostatniej części koncertu.

  • @fulviopolce9785
    @fulviopolce9785 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Un gioiello,un concerto esemplare di romanticismo,anche con notevole virtuosismo.Splendida
    l'esecuzione.
    Straordinario post, Bartje.

  • @IanGoncalves
    @IanGoncalves 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    All 5 piano concertos from Hummel are great!!!

    • @alanclifford1337
      @alanclifford1337 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      There are actually 8 (including two early A major works): No. 1 in C, op. 34a; 2 in A minor, op. 85; 3 in B minor, op. 89; 4 in E, op. 110; 5 in A flat, op. 113; 6 in F, op. post. 1. Then, don't forget the 5 'mini-concerti' in the 'rondo brillant' format, especially op. 56 and his final published work, op 127. Unlike the 6th concerto, this last work is definitely 'romantic'!

    • @alanclifford1337
      @alanclifford1337 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I should have included the rondo brilliant, op 98. Could easily be confused with Chopin!

    • @user-zn1lm7cw5n
      @user-zn1lm7cw5n 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you think in case of Hummel`s op.17 for piano and violin, also op.73 for piano?

    • @alanclifford1337
      @alanclifford1337 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They are both delightful. A lot of Mozartian influence in both works. Op. 17 produces a solo instrument combination Hummel's master never got round to. I'm sure he'd be delighted too. Hurrah, happy Hummel!

  • @kniazigor2276
    @kniazigor2276 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Le chef d'oeuvre de Hummel pour moi.
    Hummel's masterpiece for me.
    Thanks to Bartje Bartmans for sharing

  • @Janaceks_Dad
    @Janaceks_Dad ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The piano writing seems even more difficult than in Chopin's concertos.

    • @jameshandaja1536
      @jameshandaja1536 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have similar thoughts...those double notes and the 3rd movement coda...ohhh...

  • @amusicscore
    @amusicscore ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Meister Johann Nepomuk Hummel!

  • @markus7894
    @markus7894 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Bravissimo for the pianist! Incredible speed with quaver = 190 bpm!!!

    • @morganmartinez8420
      @morganmartinez8420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stephen Hough is a monster, one of the most efficient and elegant piano techniques probably to ever exist

  • @mikedaniels3009
    @mikedaniels3009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Possibly my all time favourite piano concerto, along with all my other great fave concertos 😀. That a-minor second inversion triad in the left hand ushering in the piano part is the most haunting chord in all of piano literature. Like a ray of the morning sun breaking thru the trees & the summer morning mist onto a balmy and tranquil meadow laden with the scent of flowers and already hosting the early bees.
    BTW : Fats Waller would have loved those one & two fisted smashing thirds all over the place.

    • @cminor3016
      @cminor3016 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So beautiful; piano literature? Really? How sublime! How perceptive! Poetic. Yes, thank you for your wisdom and experience.

    • @cminor3016
      @cminor3016 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ♥️

  • @tepmich
    @tepmich 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Johann Hummel expressed beautifully soulful impulses !!! Tepper Michael.

  • @benchinoun1
    @benchinoun1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    L'un des plus beaux concertos,on peux distinguer une grande clarté mélodique trés sublime et à la fois mélancolique dans le 2éme mouvement,hélas cette oeuvre majeure demeure oublié,peu jouer à nos jours.

  • @eduardoguillermoalvareznav2199
    @eduardoguillermoalvareznav2199 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Maravillosa música, una transición llena de virtuosidad!

  • @jackyli992
    @jackyli992 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Most epic ending I have ever seen 28:55

  • @sousafan100
    @sousafan100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ok first we had ries now hummel - it just makes you realize how little we know of all the great music that probably exists out there - and of course the endless possibilities of music yet to be written...

  • @user-ru8vy1uz7c
    @user-ru8vy1uz7c 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Браво супер исполнено

  • @foolim1
    @foolim1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think 3rd movement is truly masterpiece

  • @calebhu6383
    @calebhu6383 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    28:53

  • @someperson6329
    @someperson6329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow this is epic. Wow 👏

  • @Spyrine
    @Spyrine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    8:26 that octave glissando

  • @Scottparkmusic
    @Scottparkmusic 6 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    From 28:53 - Pooowwweeeeeerrrr!

    • @xbqchm
      @xbqchm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      14:04 - Afterburners ON!

  • @RakkSemilath
    @RakkSemilath 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    schönes, abwechslungsreiches Konzert!

  • @medeakalos780
    @medeakalos780 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ich liebe dieses Komponist.

  • @andream.464
    @andream.464 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hummel was considered by his contemporaries the best living pianist, until an 11 years old child prodigy appeared on the scene: his name was Franz Liszt.

  • @wesowen6624
    @wesowen6624 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You were right this piece is amazing!!

    • @bartjebartmans
      @bartjebartmans  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Did you check the 3rd? As good. A real precursor of Chopin.

  • @user-wn1dd8ls2u
    @user-wn1dd8ls2u 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If Mozart had lived about 10 years more, he would have composed something like this

  • @MarkHeller13
    @MarkHeller13 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Very interesting upload, thank you!
    I didn't know this concerto, but it's very pleasing - and I can hear its influence in so many later pieces... Chopin of course (some remarkably similar passages!), but also Schumann's piano concerto and Mendelssohn's 1st piano concerto...

    • @ElizabethPoet
      @ElizabethPoet 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which Schumann? There were two: Clara and Robert. In their day Clara was the one who was better known and responsible for her husband's success.

    • @MarkHeller13
      @MarkHeller13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ElizabethPoet Interesting, I was referring to Robert's, but I didn't know Clara had also composed a piano concerto... Listening to it now!

    • @ElizabethPoet
      @ElizabethPoet 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MarkHeller13 She composed for piano, piano trios, leider,etc. She contributed greatly to Robert's and Brahms success. She was extraordinary.

    • @harshadrobertnaik548
      @harshadrobertnaik548 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please do listen to all the other of his music not just piano music, He has written music for many music instruments and it is very good to.

  • @m.s.6486
    @m.s.6486 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Les codas sont excellentes 😁

  • @luffy-xe2il
    @luffy-xe2il 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Simplesmente divino

  • @someroyee24
    @someroyee24 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    [00:00] I. Allegro moderato
    [15:30] II. Larghetto
    [19:53] III. Rondo - Allegro moderato

  • @ShaunakDesaiPiano
    @ShaunakDesaiPiano 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    14:04 inspiration for the right hand material in Chopin’s 2nd Ballade?
    29:16 inspiration for Chopin’s Etude Op 10 No 4, aka Torrent?

    • @user-iv3mg5yn2w
      @user-iv3mg5yn2w 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This piece composed at 1816. Chopin ballade no.2 composed at 1839, his etude op.10 nr.4 composed at 1830.

  • @lucasdelliosiv7493
    @lucasdelliosiv7493 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Holy shit, this is good

  • @fulviopolce9785
    @fulviopolce9785 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Stupendo concerto,molto più romantico che classico e per me supera Beethoven per qualità.L'orchestra ha una parte importante e non solo di accompagnamento.La parte pianistica introduce quelli che saranno i gloriosi anni successivi del pianismo virtuale di Thalberg,Henselt,Schumann,etc.Ottima l'esecuzione .Gran bell'inserimento.

  • @davidbukowski3463
    @davidbukowski3463 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wow, the influence on Chopin is really evident at 14:05. Sounds a lot like the end of Chopin's Ballade No. 1.

  • @franklind.roosevelt8598
    @franklind.roosevelt8598 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    11:54 Chopin 2nd ballade
    (Before the agitato section)

    • @ruramikael
      @ruramikael 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you specify?

    • @manuelbes
      @manuelbes 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha I can hear it

  • @owengette8089
    @owengette8089 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    28:54
    29:57 to the end is V-i in STYLE

  • @ensifer329
    @ensifer329 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Theme 1 00:00
    Theme 2 00:18
    Transission
    Theme 1 00:38
    Theme 3 01:36
    theme 4 1:50
    Theme 2 02:06
    Theme 2 02:50

  • @ClassicMusicVidsUSA
    @ClassicMusicVidsUSA 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    People say they hear similarities between this and Chopin's concerti, but I hear more between this and Chopin's Fantasy on Polish Airs.

  • @keithyeung9097
    @keithyeung9097 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:49 go directly to the piano beginning

    • @mikhailsungurov2472
      @mikhailsungurov2472 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks

    • @ObrolKronckx
      @ObrolKronckx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Would be a pity as the orchestral intro is here very charming. 1:22 is delightful when the second theme arrives, or 3:33 when the intro leads to the piano solo

  • @qizhou7515
    @qizhou7515 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    For mobile users:
    I.Allegro moderato (0:00)
    II.Larghetto (15:28)
    III.Rondo - Allegro moderato (19:52)
    Thank you!

  • @davidrehak3539
    @davidrehak3539 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Johann Nepomuk Hummel:2-a-moll Zongoraverseny Op.85
    1.Allegro moderato 00:00
    2.Larghetto 15:30
    3.Rondo - Allegro moderato 19:53
    Angol Kamarazenekar
    Zongoraszóló és Vezényel:Stephen Hough