Kalkbrenner, Friedrich piano concerto No. 1 in d minor op. 61
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 มี.ค. 2013
- Friedrich Wilhelm Kalkbrenner (1785-1849)
Piano concerto No. 1 in d minor op. 61 (1823)
Movement 1 : Allegro maestoso
Movement 2 : Adagio di molto
Movement 3 : Rondo vivace - เพลง
Some commenters on here (no names) seem to think that this is derivative, copying Chopin. Well this concerto was composed seven years before Chopin's two, and Chopin dedicated his first concerto to Kalkbrenner. So who derived what from whom exactly?
Sin duda la deuda de Chopin con autores como Hummel y Kalkbrenner es muy grande y poco reconocida. Pero Chopin sí era un gran pianista y un hombre agradecido por eso admiró a estos dos autores muchísimo y recomendó sus enseñanzas. Es importante recalcar que las orquestaciones de Hummel y Kalkbrenner son mucho más sutiles que las del propio Chopin
No doubt Chopin's debt with authors like Hummel and Kalkbrenner is very large and little recognized. But Chopin himself was a great pianist and a grateful man so admired these two authors very much and recommended his teachings. Importantly orchestrations Hummel and Kalkbrenner are much more subtle than the own Chopin
So what, Chopin is the greatest harmonist/melodist of all time
haha u took the day to comment everyone on this video, im laughing as i read comments and see u burn everyone lul
I believe that composer's name is spelled "Schubert".
"Chopin is the greatest harmonist/melodist of all time." Very debatable.
While reading "A life and times Fryderyk Chopin", I drop by here to listen to some music of Kalkbrenner and I'm very, very positively surprised. Wonderful music!
One simply can't hear this piece enough!
0:00 Allegro maestoso
13:16 Adagio di molto
20:29 Rondo vivace
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@@keremugurlu7158 vay be
Danke schon
brillantezza, spirito, varietà tematica, varietà armonica, figurazioni ritmiche di ogni tipo... cosa si può volere di più da un concerto romantico-classico!
Love coming across gems like these through youtube. Great time to be a student of music!
Как жаль, что эта чудесная музыка почти забыта и не исполняется. Благодарность моя исполнителям этого чуда. Хочется ещё слушать музыку прошлого, редко исполняемую и незаслуженно забытую.
Правда
Один из лучших концертов для фортепиано по моему мнению.
Интересный факт: Это пьеса было вдохновлена концертом Шопэна, что можно и услышать
@@nrg_warrior45It was composed years before Chopins concertos.
It certainly takes a conscious effort to listen to these piano concertos by the lesser known composers without prejudice. Most of us have become somewhat jaded in our outlook because we have been thoroughly persuaded by the excellence of “The Masters.” So must we be wiling to hear and receive these pieces on their own merit and respect the gift and talent of those who have, evidently, sincerely applied themselves to cultivate their unique gifts. With that being said; it is certainly to our credit to open our minds and hearts and enjoy the joy of creativity expressed by those who(in many cases) were contemporaries of the more celebrated geniuses we rightly love and admire. PWG
Kalkbrenner has always been one of my favourite composers, its a shame people dont take more of his works into their repertoire. I would love to see more chamber music and concertos of Kalkbrenners on youtube.
my music teacher played one of his works in class and since then I had been obsessed with his music. Something about it just makes me feel great.
From his music teacher
@@paulryan7552 ikr, he’s a pioneer on the virtuouso age of piano, a precursor to Liszt and Chopin, and a good one
@@biomuseum6645 he’s so incredibly far from Liszt and Chopin listen to his opus 80 preludes I forgot any content of the piece after 2 minutes
@@mitchelllazore8433 those things are on a crappy digital piano, it’s not fair to compare it to an actual one
a marvelous work by the unfamilir kalkbrenner - his mastery of the instrument and composition is evident in the score - he should be judged on his own merits - comparisons to other composers is absurd - close the eyes and open the mind (and the ears) - thanks hv
L'ultimo movimento è qualcosa di sublime!
Одна из моих любимых композици.
23:30 So simple and yet so beautiful, just great
I'm exhausted just watching the score. Wonderful.
Alegra el Alma escuchar estos conciertos.
Gracie..
Touching moments of sensitive lyricism surrounded by a great deal of hollow virtuosity.
Very well said. I agree wholeheartedly.
le dernier mouvement révèle la joie, la gaieté...c'est merveilleux
I found this piece again after more than 3 or 4 years. I love this kind of virtuosity, this inspire me. It's an great answer for my feelings, among anothers.
I love the simplicity of the composition and musicality of this performance ; very nice.
While it's known that Chopin was greatly influenced by Kalkbrenner still crazy how easily you can map so many sections of this to Chopin's works; like the passage from 11:06 is easily recognizable in Chopin's F minor concerto
I can also hear a bit of Beethoven's 5th piano concerto ...
Этот концерт похож больше на первый концерт Шопена.
Лирическая главная партия в миноре, а разработка начинается, как и у Шопена, с мажорного проведения главной партии. (У Шопена в до мажоре.)
И патетическое октавное вступление тоже, как у Шопена.
Конечно, Шопен был под сильным влиянием этого автора. 😊
Единственное, что их отличает, это то, что у этого автора начало чисто польское, но дальше - все австрийское, вплоть до разработки. А у Шопена все польское. :)
This is amazing . Why on earth has this piano concerto never been played by todays great pianists. Would be in awe if Valentina Lisitsa were to get her hands on this. There is a lot of Chopin and Hummel in this wonderful concerto. There is also an element of the Irish composer John Field in this as well.
Rubbish, there is a good reason why this shit is a dust collector.
Am not concerned with your stupidity !
because you too absorbed in your own!
Bruce Stoller is an arse hole and obviously show his total stupidity by his banal comment - if you can call it a comment.
The reason why there is a lot of "Chopin" is because Kalkbrenner was Chopin's teacher.
Eines der größten Beispiele für Adel und Verständnis der Herablassung !!! Tepper Michael.
In my opinion, that's in full romantic period 1800-1850. Hummel, Kalkbrenner, Chopin and other composers from that ages are envolved in a circle of similar structures,phrases and emotions. It's seems chopin, it seems others; by the way, each one give to his compositions and at least to us, in ours days, the privilege of a true experience to reach our souls. I love chopin concertos, I know every single note of them, and when I listen other composers from that ages and reminds me Chopin, I only can smile. Chopin itself in his letters wrote a lot of his work, he hope that can satisfy his public; a true sense of modesty. ( sorry for my english,I'm italian)
No one did it better than Chopin
Stop trolling.
Magnifique, quel plaisir, l'Adagio c'est de la dentelle ! Et le Rondo vivace, idem. J'ai adoré ❣️🎶💓🎶
Excelente obra , expresiva , romántica, una belleza de composición. Buenos Aires
Bravo grandiose genial concerto super music
Thanks so much for sharing this magnificent, beautiful music! I personally love this concerto and I would be happy to learn more about this composer. Thanks again!
First time I hear this concerto, I love it.
Thankfully I know nothing about music which allows me to enjoy it, this piece in particular. I feel rather sorry for the highly educated musicologists who do not seem to be able to enjoy any of it.
Walterec1 well said!
Very very well said !
what do you mean with that?
+maestoso-allegro I am one of these nit picky guys, and I have to say, this concerto is nothing special, nothing original, nothing that's really worth mentioning when talking about masterpieces. However it's still nice and enjoyable.
+maestoso-allegro This is all very subjective, but this concerto really is just boring and doesn't seem like it has much to say. Mendelssohn's piano concerto no.1, while not having as much depth as say Beethoven's concertos, is at the very least enjoyable to listen to. It has a high energy opening that is second to none and extremely beautiful lyrical moments scattered throughout the first and second movement. The Kalkbrenner concerto seems to be a compilation of all the piano techniques without any interesting musical ideas
All comments go about the composer, however, the pianist is doing a fantastic job!
I agree, amazing playing.
Intelligent classical composer ! Beautiful concerto.
One of the greatest examples of nobility and understanding kind condescension !!! Tepper Michael.
Beautiful!
absolutely amazing concerto
amazing concert, good for performers
buenisimo. desconocia a este compositor ...
gracias !
It is so well-played and so clean in the right sense of the word, I enjoyed it!
thanks for sharing this music dude!
Beautifull, stunning, amazing !
A brilliant underestimated composer, one of my favorite pieces.
DIVINO !
Wow, the adagio is absurdly amazing! Utterly transcendentally peaceful.
Louis Moreau Gottschalk: "In 1844, then very young, I gave in Paris a soirée to which all the illustrious pianists of the period were invited, among others Kalkbrenner. I played Chopin’s concerto in E Minor, Thalberg's Fantasia on Semiramide, and a fantasia by Liszt. The next day I went to thank Kalkbrenner for having come to hear me. This attention softened a little the generally sour disposition of the old pianist, who did not forgive the new school for knowing something; he took my hand and said with the air of majestic condescension: The style is good, as for the rest there is nothing astonishing; you are my grandchild (alluding to Stamaty, who was his pupil), but for god's sake, who advised you to play such music. Chopin! I hardly pardon you; but Liszt and Thalberg, what rhapsodies! Why did you not play one of my pieces? They are beautiful, please everybody and are classical".
Wonderful.
Great pianist great performance great composer
Have you heard the zHoward Shelley and Tasmanian SO recording. I think it is a better recording but Hyperion do not allow their recordings to be placed on You Tube. Also Shelley has recorded the other 3 concerti.
I've never known about him.
Sounds like he is a well-known in many ways😄
I really liked this.
That was amazing to hear and crazy to try to follow as it moved along!
A year later and I still like it. Perhaps I should seek some counseling.
Why ruin a good thing ? Mental Health is over-rated!
There might e a medication for this condition you have! I've suffered from it since I was five years old! So far, NOTHING has helped--I still love classical music and yes, this piece too--simply awesome!
I don't want to be cured of this "condition."
Brilhante! Que concerto maravilhoso!
Realmente está entre as mais lindas composições pra piano!
excellent concerto joli morceau a ecouter tres souvant!
Merci beaucoup ! Thank you very much
Chopin E-minor concerto much?
This concerto is very beautiful and a masterpiece of sorts.
I don't care what others think, so be it...
One can see how Kalkbrenner has taken the proto-Romanticism of the Mozart/Beethoven school
and pushed it further to suit his own ends... He deserves credit.
Virtuose thank you for sharing
Muito lindo demais esse concerto! Achei vibrante e alegre!
00:02 Movement 1 : Allegro maestoso
13:18 Movement 2 : Adagio di molto
20:30 Movement 3 : Rondo vivace
Brillante, intenso, coinvolgente.
Incredible pianist!
This sounds like it could easily belong to Chopin's concerto catalogue. It's beautiful!
Amazing Dear Many thanks for to share this dear Fantastic
ottimamente eseguito...un esempio pieno del pianismo e della sonorità romantica...e colmo di pathos
Thanks for uploading!
This is wonderful music, in it’s own right. It could have been more known…Anyway, I’m happy to have discovered it.
Thank you, HenriVieuxtemps, for sharing this with all of us. Chopin considered Maestro Kalkbrenner - "The best pianist of his time." This piece is wonderful. Kalkbrenner was a great Pianist, but not as great a composer as Chopin. During his life, Kalkbrenner experienced great loss, sadness, and other difficulties. Such was the case for dear Chopin, however, Chopin's heart, spirit, and soul was richer and more sensitive. Thus, more lyrical, tender, and human. Yet, in so many of Chopin's writings, we see Chopin's greatest talent and character- his humility. Chopin wrote of Kalkbrenner: "I am not worthy to even tie his shoelaces." Remarkable -no? Thank you again, HenriVieuxtemps.
Obscurity awaits for those who don't have a snappy memorable name.
Indeed. Some of the writing in this is absolutely glorious, particularly for the piano.
You would argue that the orchestral writing, whilst not especially ambitious, is superior to Chopin’s as well. But, I guess history chooses its canon for whatever reason.
You two are such contrarians. "Snappy memorable name, history chooses its canon for whatever reason."
You two are actually going to pretend Chopin's ouvre isn't superior to Kalkbrenner's. Lmao
His name in german translated means "chalkburner"
@@danielhornby5581к сожалению, у Шопена, при всей гениальности первого фортепианного концерта, очень плохая оркестровка. 😢 Времени все не хватает переделать. 😂 А так хочется! Особенно коду первой части первого фортепианного концерта. Ну, зачем он там заставил тянуть основную тему одинокий кларнет? Я все время задают этим вопросом. Но вот, подумав, потом поняла, зачем он так написал. Дело в том, что первый концерт Шопен посвятил одной певице, в которую влюбился. И вот это кода с одиноким кларнетом, звучит, как вопрос к своей возлюбленной. Я это понимаю именно так. Как тонкий намёк.
Но переписать оркестррвку все равно хочется! Возлюбленная, конечно, главнее, но кода должна все-таки достойно звучать. 😂
He disfrutado muchísimo el segundo movimiento. :+)
Beautiful
Howard Shelley (piano), Tasmanian Symphony Orchestra, Howard Shelley (conductor)
You are saying who is performing this work here, correct? Or are you recommending some other performance?
I hope all of those critics on here can play this... doubt it..... !! and I personally enjoy it, and that is what music is about, how it affects the individual. I would say that this music speaks, and that is all that is important.......
Lovely!
very good piano Concerto
Beautiful shape of sound, this piece shows what piano can do over other instruments.
BELLISSIMO!!!!!
קונצרט יפהפה!!! Amazing!!!!
J'aime beaucoup et c'est une découverte pour moi.
Well, some parts are better than others but it's an interesting work and helps contextualize the development of romantic piano concert
First time I can see you upload Piano Piece
i like it, pretty romantic! THANK YOU.
great, great, great !!!!!!!!!!
very nice!
He wrote tremendous amounts of music, and sadly almost nothing has survived.. He considered himself to be "The last classical composer" and on the same height as Beethoven and Haydn
Very nice!
Dees iz zah gveatest composition yoo have nevah herd ov!
maravilha ..!!!
"The best pianist in Europe. The only one I am not worthy to tie his shoes of"
"A giant who crushes all Herzes and Czernys underneath his feet, including myself"
- Chopin in a letter to his friend Tytus Woyciechowski.
kakbrenner wanted chopin to study with him for 3 years, chopin refused and eventually graduated from his obssesion of kalkbrenner (at least to some extent)
Doesn't necessarily make him a better composer.
Or a worse one, to be fair.
Stop talking about Chopin here, the comment section is full of that, we have nothing else to say, try to remember this more as Kalkbrenner. This was Chopin's inspiration for his concerto op *21* , if you want the real Chopin, go after op 50, it's much more interesting here. Anyway, this must be a good concerto if Chopin took inspiration from it.
Lord in heaven - what a piece!
Gracias por siempre abuela.
06:48 - 08:15 My favourite fragment 😍
gracias a los comentarios pude redescubrir este compositor, impresionado¡ desde Buenos Aires
awesome
HERMOSO CONCIERTO COMO TANTOS QUE HAY .
We can quibble about this and that but it remains that we should remember, purchase , and play more of Kalkbrenner's music. He had some genuine things to say in his music. And he was extremely important in his day so the well educated person will listen to his music to put him and more famous others in true context.
Wow!
Listen this, abolish the surge of noises and images of everyday life in order to open the space of a place where contingency and representation give way to the immateriality of the sensible. Once the door is closed on agitation of the world, an underlying silence sets in, a slowness seizes preludes to a dilation of perception and consciousness. The expressive power of the sound architecture breaks with any form of transcription of the real to attach itself to the expression of an elusive universe. Colors and rhythm of these compositions is a language that gives voice to exaltation!
Gorgeous piano writing; though he never shapes a truly memorable melody.
do I hear Chopin piano Concerto No.1...WOW great performence as well...enjoyed each moment of it...
Первая часть главная партия и ее звучаеие в разработке в мажоре - вообще, как под копирку! 😊
6:01 wow!
I find this very interesting, because some sequences directly remind one of the Chopin contertos, however, with less atmosphere and invention, a little less beauty, and, although the Chopen concerts are not really the pinnacles of piano concertos, this is still intended to be a big praise as Chopin is one of my favourites. Thanks for posting it, I will go on to listen to others as well.
nice