Redfall - The Final Update
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ย. 2024
- Talking about the last patch Redfall will be receiving due to the closure of Arkane Austin.
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I'll have fond memories of Arkane Austin, Prey will always be one of my favorite games.
It’s on sale right now should I grab it ?
@@finnmarr-heenan2397 Do you like immersive sims? If so, yeah.
It's an all time great. A real lightning in a bottle. Like most great immersive sims. The right people in the right place, making all the difference in the world.
@@finnmarr-heenan2397the level design was great, multiple ways to get through areas and the way everything is connected. But the money you spend wont go to them anymore so you are better off looking to get it free off certain websites
Prey 2006 is better
That offline mode is how you close a live service game the right way.
Makes me wonder if they are gonna release it on GOG too.
Marvel Avengers actually also did something like that even though the developers had to pull the entire game off Steam.
They allowed anyone who had bought the game to keep playing, removed all the microtransactions and just gave players the previously buyable skins and gave them +50% boosters to XP and currency which if I understood correctly you could buy before the changes.
I think they also did -90% sale on Steam for a while before it was pulled off from the store.
Overall even though the game is rather mediocre even at best I still gave to give the developers credit for what they did, especially considering that they could have just shut down the entire game instead.
@@MrQwertysystem That's really cool. Kudos to them. I love hearing times when the devs can and do the right thing by their customers.
This is not a live service game, there is no currency or internal store. Have you ever played a live service in your life?
I find it astounding that they actually added an offline mode patch.
I spend a lot of time on this game, like over 6 days time! I'm aware of it weaknesses but the atmosphere was so good to keep going and it is a nice game to kill time, since it doesn't demand much to enjoy! I really wish they released to heroes pack before killing! Now since it has an offline mode and there will be no future updates maybe someone will start modding content, but I guess that's just a wishful thinking or me being delusional!
Thanks fort fair reviews constant coverage of the the game's updates! Actually I discovered you're channel the day you reviewed Redfall and subscribed because I found your review the most fair and pretty convincing in the way you judged it's flaws and qualities!
RIP Arkane Austin!
The game has had like 20 players for quite some time. And I swear all of them are content creators (and their friends) checking out the 'current state of game'.
At one point back in 2023 the Steam version had 3 players. Less than one lobby worth playing in the entire world. Then they put the game on sale for 75% off to infuse the player base a bit.
@@XoRandomGuyoXI wouldn’t play it if it was free 🤷🏻♂️
I played Redfall on game pass and was surprised to really enjoy it mainly because I l liked the map/city they created. That being said, would have been sad to have paid full price.
Agree 100%
just bought on a site of key at almost 14€
i'm curious to try it
Yeah I was so stoked to see the game being set on an urban/ small town setting. This kind of environment always intrigues me, sort of like L4D but with vampires
One day this game will be more appreciated. It will be rare underrated game, which is hard to get because no many copies are around.
But I enjoy this game. The atmosphere, unique combat, unique setting... It's all fun. Sure it's not a game that will stick with me for a long time but it's also not as bad as most people make it out to be. I swear people forget that videogames are supposed to be FUN. and this game is. Compare this to Baldurs Gate 3. Baldurs Gate 3 requires you to learn DnD and the games many in depth features and mechanics. NOT a game you can just relax and have fun with (unless you really know what you're doing).But it got game of the year. I guess that's what people like nowadays... Tryhard games. No more fun games
Prey is one of the greatest games ever made. I am very sad to see Arkane Austin end but maybe this will allow the masterminds of that game to make something they are passionate about at a different company.
I love Redfall. I was never bored with it.
Yeah, this will be free on Epic or Amazon before the year ends.
it was already part of Gamepass wasnt it?
@@Cassandra112 Yep that was how I tried it out, Gamepass is great to just get a month to try expensive games like Starfield so you can find out that you don't want to spend the AU $100 + they expect to buy it on Steam here (absolutely ridiculous prices).
@@Daniel92CZI did. Had Gamepass and decided to try it out even knowing that it's not that great. Dropped it after like a day simple because the gunplay was so sluggish and unsatisfying... Reload times were atrocious considering the type of enemies you mostly fought.
@@based-ys9um xbots is a weird turn of phrase. Gamepass is on PC and Mobile too btw.
There's definitely an argument to be made that subscription game services are bad for developers but from a players point of view I don't know why getting to test games for free is a bad thing? PlayStation does the same with PSN just with less games. Epic does it on PC.
I own all the different consoles plus a PC btw so I'm not batting for any team.
As for Redfall I played it because it was free. It was frustrating because you could see bits of the true Arkane Austin peaking through the edges. It's well known they were forced to make the game a live service by Zenimax before Microsoft bought them. Nobody there wanted to make the game in the way it was and unfortunately that management decision has lead to all of them being laid off. Although with Tango also going who knows if they'd have been safe if the game was good. There's a timeline out there where they made a version of Redfall that played to their strengths and came out well.
At least they went out with a bang, I played like 3 hours last night, I'm playing again tonight
This game is good really hope Bethesda takes this title for development ...and don't abandon it
Looks like a kinda fun AA game which should be bought on sale.
Despite all of it's flaws, I completed this game upon release - and enjoyed it more than the prior Arkane title, Deathloop. That title being a significantly diluted (read: inferior) version of the Prey: Mooncrash DLC. Considering I haven't touched Redfall since launch, based on what you've shared in the video, I think I'll reinstall it and give it a fair shake.
It's nuts to me that no one involved in this games creation looked at The Darkness 2. Why? The co op in that game has each of the 4 charecters taking one core mechanic of single player and expanding on it. They really should have designed a large and diverse immersive super power sim kit for Single player, then based Co op around splitting that kit up. Best of both worlds.
I'm a huge fan of Arkane and it's so sad that Arkane Austin is closing. Thanks for the video, I'll probably go check the game out now that it's as updated as it will ever be.
This game was SO underrated! I loved it. Such fun weapons, missions, and atmosphere. I dont get the hate at all.
Its dumb fun like any ubisoft game.
Thanks for this. I bought the Xbox physical edition for less than 10 bucks and just hadn’t played it yet. Happy ms added offline mode and the game seems vastly improved since launch. You’re the GOAT, Morty!
Yay! Offline! Now I probably try it)
If they do another 75% off sale with the new pricing that'll make the game hit the $10 price point where I said I'd be willing to check it out. That community upgrade system actually looks interesting; much better than the standard 'skill trees' that the heroes started with. Speaking of other studio closures, they also nixed Tango Games, which did the Evil Within series and Ghostwire:Tokyo. I expect more closures in the future, as 'corporate suit' types seek to boost quarterly profits.
You're forgetting that Tango games also made Hi-Fi Rush which was a massive success with absolutely no marketing given to it and recieved multiple awards. That alone should tell you that the closures were already decided ages ago no matter what the studios did or achieved.
If Ghostwire Tokyo was their last game then the closure would have at least made SOME sense and not that surprising due to its critical reception and sales.
Hopefully modders can take over…
I really, REALLY hope so as well. But I don't think Redfall is a very moddable game, if at all. Honestly might be easier to just make an entirely new game based off of it and expand that.
Arkane Austin is like a band that made great albums but end up ending
Definitely play Prey (2017) if you have a chance fellow kids
Like metallica, the first albums were great, then nothing more.😅
Thanks for the video. It's kind of funny that the story of making the game is more interesting than the game itself. Onward to 400k. All glory to the algorithm.
I have enjoyed this game since patch 3.
To say it hurts to think about Redfall would be an understatement, it's a tragedy of software the likes of which are hard to find, it's like an an Anthem²
I found Anthem fun for the first 20 hours. I never managed to gel with Redfall at all.
Final nail in the coffin
final Steak in the coffin?
So that bloodsucker does not get out
yes you are correct stake* my bad.
I'm playing it rn (picked it up in a fanatical bundle for 12€) and tbh the game is fun. Not amazing but still pretty interesting if you like vampire stories.
I like the community standing perks and offline mode. This game had a ton of potential. I wouldve relaunched it with a ps5 and switch 2 version and it could've recovered. It had a killer setting.
I liked the setting and lore but I don’t even know how I’d fix the gameplay
Looks good!! just needs a 95% discount. NEEEDS!!!
Gamepass
what do you mean its on gamepass
If you don’t buy the key on steam directly the game has been priced at around 20 bucks for over a year…
This game needs to be 4.99
I played about 5 or 10 hours on gamepass on release and thought it was ok, but not $70 ok. I agree a $20 price tag would probably be worth it, but I would want to be able to play a local hosted game with friends or something.
Do i still need to log into bethesda account even for offline mode similar like doom eternal at the start of the game?
Crazy we saw the post-mordem of a video game studio closing in this update
At one point redfall was on sale for 17 and some change on the microsoft store. It should go on sale again so more people will play it. I had and will have a good time playing this. It was fun and what a gorgeous game.
yeah, there was a decent game in there somewhere. I didn't bother giving it another chance on any of these patches. I felt the problem was more foundational. the multiplayer focus itself is what killed it. that was just never going to mesh with the rest of the games design. so if you played solo, the game was more fun, and progressed properly, but you missed out on the character interactions where were core to the storyline. if you played MP it was just not fun, and hotjoin was not designed well to encourage solo players to actually play MP.
Thank you and have an amazing day
Just got it physically for $17 on Amazon. Been waiting for the price to drop since they announced this final update would have the off-line mode and everything, so I’m interested to see for myself how it’s improved. I played it when it launched day one when I actually had game pass, but quickly left it when tears of the kingdom came out.
One cool and important update that Everyone is missing Is that they added infinite ammo and it doesn't shut off achievements. You can find the option under the Accessibility tab
We wish Redfall getting revived better and ever before!!😢🤩
The ideal variant is to make a good offline mode, port to PS and sell for a full price of $30 with regular discount to $10-15.
I picked a key on Steam for $14. With that value proposition it's not a bad game at all
I kind of enjoyed this game despite it's shortcomings. I may have to go back and try it again after all these updates.
I just finished Prey before the shutdown of Arkane Austin. I had even started researching whether they were gonna release a sequel, but then the DAY after I finished it their studio was shut down. Maybe it was my fault
I was so hyped for this game before release too. We got all these games where you can play blood suckers but very few where you're actively hunting down the lot of them.
What features will be lost from not being online?
It’s been laughable that the price has hovered at $70 for so long. Waiting for
Saaaaad. Fkn suits. They must be liable for downsizing and giving trouble to devs. Rise against the machine.
I remember playing on Game Pass and being glad I saved the money. These improvements seem good, though, and I would probably pick it back for $20.
It was on sale for $40, I like the theme of vampire hunting. It's a fun enough game if you're not super critical but now way is it worth $70 - Shame about Arkane Austin, hope the crew lands on their feet
i'm sad by this, glad they added that mode.
I genuinely think if it got updated a bit more it could become pretty good.
MUITO TRISTE E DESGOSTOSO POR TEREM ABANDONADO ESSE JOGO QUE TINHA E TEM MUITO POTENCIAL!! MUITA INCOMPETENCIA!!!
Any plans to cover the updated Director's Cut version of Dark Envoy ?
Not currently
I swear you read my mind. Just yesterday I was wondering if I should download it and give it another try.
Update: Downloaded it and it crashed twice in the first 40 minutes. I have a i7, 32 gigs of ram, and an rtx4070. That should not be happening. I'd love to give the game a fair shot but it just won't let me.
This game is one example of why games are better off made as Singleplayer experience with a multiplayer bonus. Had this simply been a very solid singleplayer bonus it'd atleast have some life to it and probably get enough attention to warrant further support.
I only support offline single player games, had they had sp offline mode with bots at launch I would have bought it as I like the concept and personally my favorite games are ones that get 6/10. Warhammer martry is now fullly offline single player with the lates update and its amazing had to wait years but got it.
I'm sad about it basically being sunset so soon. I think if it was cleaned up I could have been won over :(
I grabbed it for $10 a while back. Only played it a bit, will restart it with the patch.
If they dropped it to 20 I'd pick it up for solo play.
To quote another comment: "If you don’t buy the key on steam directly the game has been priced at around 20 bucks for over a year…"
Do You have the option to not to have abilities like in Dishonored 2?
The psychic character might as well be considered to not have abilities. One is a jump pad while the other is a shield. Her ultimate summons a melee fighter for a brief moment. It is a far cry from the stealth sniper and his ghost rifle ultimate which provides 8 rounds of aimbot sniping.
Thanks!
Honestly the biggest turn off for me was no quick join lobby. I had to create a post looking for a group on my Xbox home menu What ??
At this point the game is a lot of fun. Much improved.
RIP to the studio. I’ll always remember Prey. And RIP to Tango. Microsoft is the worst.
Read the news and don't be a tool
The only tool here is you.@@redlath
@@piscye1806 reeeeeeead instead of writing moronic statements
Well would you look at that, adding an offline mode IS in fact possible to these games after launch. many publsihers just refuse to then.
Give it a few weeks and it'll be in a game bundle. They've already reduced the price on Steam.
Great game
Damn, this game had its whole lifespan before I got around to trying it even once. Oh, well.
Do you recommend playing it today?
If you can get it for cheap its a decent experience yeah
@@MortismalGaming thanks bro
I enjoyed Redfall for what it was, but could not finish it. It’s shortcomings became to apparent during the second main story. You could tell the developers were forced to add filler just for the sake of making the game longer.
Dude shutting down arkane austin is a huge blow. Idk wtf xbox was thinking. They made a game outside if their usual style and it went poorly, but just imagine a prey 2 or something. Prey 2017 was one of my favorite games of all time. It was SO well made. And arkane had potential. They very well couldve given it a 180 success story. Iirc xbox/philo spencer even said that they were going yo stick with it. Not only did they not do that, but they killed off a very talented studio, which is an absolute shame when microsoft has more than enough money to let them continue.
Ive been a xbox supporter over the last several years between gamepass, and them getting bethesda, inxile, and other obsidian. It just blows my mind that they would buy bethesda and shut down both arkane austin and tango gameworks?! Like dude they both have well loved and high quality games under their belt. This alone really shook up my faith in xbox in a way i wasnt expecting. Maybe its a shame on me situation for believing all the great industry/developers first talk Phil Spencer did but it seriously felt like xbox really was genuine about treating studios and fans well, and now all that good faith they earned over the last few years is absolutely gone.
I hope they dont kill off obsdian, bethesda, or inxile. If those end up gone ill never purchase another xbox product ever again. No consoles, no gamepass, and no software on their ecosystem.
Hey mort. Will you ever do a review for prey?
I already did, a couple years back
Can anybody tell me if the ai of the enemies ever got smarter or are they still kinda stupid?
They made improvements since launch, individual experiences will differ though of course
@MortismalGaming thank you my friend.
Man, I'd love to hear your take on Vampire Survivors! Simple, old style and good achievements!
Can't see myself ever playing this now. Would've played it in coop for a low price but with the servers shutting down this is not gonna happen. Or did they implement a p2p "offline" mode?
Although I wish more of its potential was realized. I'm happy with them leaving redfall in this state. Microsoft won't allocate anymore resources to a product without a return on investment. And unfortunately this game just doesn't have enough profit potential left to warrant it. All the sales this game would have had have already been made and I'm sure we don't want a microtransaction model added, especially for a game that has a fringe player base already. It's really sad the journey this game went down but at least it's able to die with some semblance of dignity.
Morning mortim
Prey was a brilliant game that was a mistake on microsofts part
Well, I thought I'd give it a try since it's on game pass. We'll see what all the fuss is about I guess.
Gronk!
I just think it's bullshit to pull the bite back edition.. they promised 2 new characters.. they should just hired another team or waited till promises where met before closing the studio..
anyway, im pissed that we (the ones who did not buy the bite back edition) cannot buy the OTHER stuff that came with the bite back upgrade.. The weapon skins, weapon and character skins..
at least sell these as a mini DLC for like 3 to 5 bucks.. I actually like Redfall for what it is (if you didn't pay the FULL price.)..
They need to sell all the dlc.. both preorder AND bite back upgrade (without the 2 new characters duh)...
Really bummed that those dlc is ripped away from me without the option to buy it or get it for free for staying and playing
I think I'd pay 10 for it at some point. Would of paid 100 for prey 2 though 😢
So can we not play co-op anymore online?
You can for now at least
@@MortismalGaming Thanks for replying :)
I heard Ken Levine is interested in hiring whoever was recently laid off from Arkane Austin, hopefully the ones talented at immersive sims can bring their know-how to Judas.
The studio had a good pedigree and the failure of red fall looked mostly like rushed production (probably from pressure to hit a release date by the publisher), so I think the devs will land just fine
Anytime i play this game i enjoi the city !
I completely forgot this game existed ._.
Shame the offline mode won't have coop. The game had potential but was unnecessarily grindy. Even basic modding support could have made a big difference.
Price is the biggest problem for me. Id actually buy this for €20 or (ideally) less
Shame they couldn't get a deal like Toys for Bob.
Is the video footage from the final update? Because it still looks like there's a bug in the AI coding.
Such a shame.
Redfall had quite the interesting premise. But Live Service broke it's back long before it was even finished.
I enjoyed Redfall for a time, and am sad to see the studio behind it shut down. The progress to making it a better game has been good, and I'm looking forward to checking out this last update. It wasn't the best vampire game ever, but it was all right. Not as horrible as many people would have us believe.
free comment.
The game has been pretty cheap on key seller siites outside of steam for quite some time.
If only they made this a single player experience in their arkane style, man i hate these chairmans that only see money
Just like back 4 blood lasted only a year, then it ceased support
This game was set up to fail from the moment Zenimax made it a live service. On top of that, when MS took over they made no effort to seriously salvage the project and instead let it flounder and die, then canned the developers for a disaster they wanted no hand in. Tragic, really.
Live service is a cancer in the gaming industry you can only get so many people. Also using a developer that had a reputation of making immersive sims to make a shooter is just dumb.
Arkan can single player immersive sim but no live service games.zenimax Made a mess
Zenimax never forced Arkane Austin to make it a live service game. Arkane Austin’s leadership wanted to make it.
Should have been an open world single player game rather than an attempt at a live service and god knows whatever other money grabbing strat they were going for. The atmosphere and aesthetic was pretty nice to be honest but the game had nothing in it with terrible AI and nothing much of interest to do. Classic example of what happens when the corporate suits don't let creative people create
Poor redfall :(
it just needs more updates
Im actually disappointed. I was hoping Arkane could turn this game around. I actually enjoyed it at launch. Obviously, it was flawed, but i saw the potential. I'll have to hop back on at some point to see what's changed.
Man, this is a real shame coming off of their prior games.
This is what happens when studios make games they’re not passionate about. Big publishers squashing creativity strikes again.