@@NihilNick yeah i don't buy games that are always online because half the time the servers start out like crap, or they lose service a ways into the future so it becomes useless
Battlefield 2024 first made the giant leap for mankind by putting a scoreboard in the game after launch. Now arkane is revolutionizing the industry with a pause button. What a time to be alive
@@George-um2vc It's amazing what can happen when a developer gives a shit. Monster Hunter is another one that's embarrassing 99% of the gaming landscape
@@prohdusah'Live service' doesn't mean 'multiplayer'. There are single player games out there which are live service. Common sense would of saved you before posting that comment.
People just didn't understand Redfall. It was an ACTUAL battle royale. They started with 100 players, and we are down to the final 20. It was actually really before it's time.
@@shock226 Both actually. It's a bad, sad story because it should've been a fully functioning game upon release but good cause its a flop and the corporations suffered because of the game being a mess. Gaming is the only industry you'll find people paying full price for a new product then making excuses cause its a complete mess before saying two years later "Hey stop complaining its good now....sorta"
I love how devs always go on and on about how critical the online requirement is to their game vision, how it can't be removed, then magically find a way to patch it in months later when they realize how that requirement does nothing but piss people off by forcing the 'no pausing' bit, and other unpopular decisions. As usual, it's too little, too late. The game still looks bland as hell, nothing about it sticks out or looks any different from the mass of other games that are doing the exact same thing, but better.
I do want a game about vampires in a neighborhood. Either as a person against the vampires or as the vampire. This setting could have been great but Arkane was a shell of its former self and left to fall apart.
The setting does look good. New England coastal town vibes. But its such a mess you gotta hope a company who can actually make a half decent game pick the setting
Really annoys me when the higher ups make terrible decisions that cause a project or company to tank and the regular people who were just doing as they were ordered are the ones to be punished. Main reason I think lay offs should be illegal in cases of management negligence or Incompetence.
I’ve just started the game after dropping it 30 minutes in at launch. 5 hours in and it’s a bunch of fun. It’s Borderlands x Farcry with a cool creepy suburban vampire setting. The game could’ve been great but I’m glad it’s at least good enough and I’m going to finish it in the next few weeks.
@@honaleri I think they were trying to imply they played it for 80 hours before the first patch and people who didn't like it did not like it cause of group think and cultish behavior. I THINK thats what they were trying to imply.
@@prohdusah So you played a game that was objectively awful and worse than every competitor on the market for 80 hours to prove to yourself it wasn't bad? Brother, that says a lot more about you than about everyone else.
I would agree that they deserve credit for pushing this update except for the fact that it's mostly stuff that should have been done ages ago. They put out a total pos game and after a year, their studio getting shut down and canceling the dlc they'd already sold to people, they managed to get the game to what most people would consider to be a minimum playable state for an online shooter. I know it's not totally Arkane's fault, but I wouldn't applaud them for finally getting the game up to where it should've been at launch on their way out the door.
That's what I was thinking. It's good that they didn't drop the game completely, but why did it take the death of the company to get it to a mostly functional state over a year after release?
I disagree. This was their last update before finally closing down and shutting the door behind them and they implemented features that should've been in the game from day 1. Not to mention the game crashed three times in this video. Twice in a row. It's simply not good enough. It sounds harsh but if you apply this level of incompetency to other places like construction, firefighters, heart surgeons people would be up in arms "We did well with the previous fire but this time the guy forgot to bring the ladder.....we'll remember next time though!" and quite honestly some people just aren't cut out for their desired profession. Thats life. Maybe they should make games as a hobby and look for a career elsewhere
Yeah. Good on Arcane for delivering the last patch. Before Redfall released, I was really excited about it. The idea of a shooter about a team of humans in their firehouse base trying to reclaim their village from vampires is still a great game concept.
this makes me sad because i have been yearning for a badass gothic/spooky themed looter shooter 😭 it rly is a shame when a cool idea is wasted on mediocre execution
I mean that's what arkane lyon is best at- single player worlds with unique aesthetics and solid mechanics. They excelled in what they knew- just some Microsoft exec forced then to do multi-player which was WAY out of their skill house
On a positive note, Arcane Lyon that developed Dishonored 2 has escaped Microsoft's death grip, which means we may one day see a third installment of the game. Also, if you learn that Microsoft is going to buy the company you work for, it's a good idea to start looking for other opportunities before it's too late.
2:08 why are the electric overhead wires as thick as the electricity poles holding them up? Jesus. What kind of people that never exited their apartment created this?
The funny part is that, after so much drama, this update made me interested in the game. Might buy it someday... Arkane was great. I mean... to me, Prey is legendary.
Bro, I just tried diablo 4 since its on gamepass. Not a fan of blizzard. But surely a base-game hack n slash for free will be alright. Nope. Fiddly account link that took 15 minutes. Then had to wait in a queue to log in. No camera movement. The dumbest settings you can imagine. Makes cutscenes freeze at random points til you hit A. No click A to advance dialogue, no. Its like a dvd skipping. The skill menu is garbage. Its like zooming a webpage in to max, then trying to scroll the screen in all 4 directions to read. You are reminded on every login to make a new seasonal character and buy stuff. You can't pause the game, so inventory checking is sketchy if you aren't in town. Its... kinda... multiplayer? I've seen other players running around, messing up my attacks or pulling enemies towards me. There is no way to play it single player. But the worst is the game its self. It doesn't ever try to pretend its not a game. It tells you how things spawn, and what mechanics exist without lore or irony. Every event is fight mobs, fight miniboss, chest spawns. No attempt is made for immersion or to connect the gameplay to the story. It feels hollow and soulless. You can see every gear in the machine of this game, and theres no magic or mystery. Most games do a "use 10 realm crystals to unlock the godslayer sword!" type-thing. Diablo says "give us 20 bucks. Now. And you can have.... uh... i dunno, this armor thing. It looks cool, or something. Money. Now." And you feel it in every moment of gameplay.
@@Volyren i know that, the sarcasm is abundantly clear in their statement, however you just randomly started typing up a full blown essay on a completely different game as a comment on some guys sarcastic joke. are you trying to idk... start some kind of serious discussion under a sarcastic comment? time and place my friend.
@@Deckfighters the place: bathroom The time: poopies. The birthplace of 90% of YT comments. The yap usually directly correlates to the total of your taco bell order. I had a gift card.
Clearly the developers are capable of creating a quality game so now more than ever I have a feeling the publisher was interfering and forcing them into making a certain type of game including the online requirement. With all these fixes the game plays more like an Arkane game. I hope the developers are able to continue to follow their passion somewhere they can be creative and develop the types of games they want and that they enjoy playing.
I hope another publisher scoops this team up, buys them a new studio to work in, because they have the talent. They have never made a multiplayer game like this, and it's no surprise that it didn't work out. Prey was my jam and the hope for a Prey 2 is gone.
Out of curiosity, if this is the last update, what happened to all the dlc characters. They just pull the plug in them. If so, how is there no class action or massive wave of refunds for the bite back edition.
Unfortunately I havent seen any news covering that, which I think is illegal for a company to do...However, Im also not sure if that purchase only followed "Arkane Austin" or the greater Zenimax for legal liability as I didnt buy that...
if anyone reading this feels burned by Redfall, i cannot recommend picking up Prey 2017. i put it off for years but last year i finally played it and loved it. its a shame Arkane Austin never got the chance to make a sequel. heres hoping Arkane Lyon can still get the chance to cook
14:19 _"I am alive. I am confident. I am badass."_ Wow, that is some cringey dialogue. That's right up there with the likes of Forspoken and the Saints Row reboot.
It really would take a lot of context to make that anything else. A sympathetic character trying to hype themselves up for a tough fight could work with that.
Hey wait... You mean I don't have to be signed into some server with an undisclosed expiry date to be able to play a game that I spend money on? I might actually bother giving this a go now.
this is so sad to me. Dishonored is my favourite game of all time. Arkane was forced to make a live-service looter when their strength is in stealth single-player (even just look at the great, critically acclaimed Prey 2017). The game unsurprisingly flopped and now the studio is being shut down. As a Dishonored fan, this is soul-crushing. I'm French and when I was in uni studying to be a sound designer, my dream was to get into Arkane Lyon, that's how much I love this studio and IP. I can only hope that Arkane Lyon will develop another Dishonored now that the Austin studio is closing. I fucking hate Microsoft, man.
So we're not getting a redfall 2? This was the best vampire game I've ever played. It pushed the boundaries of what a game should be, it was sooooo fun to play
Or better yet, not buy garbage games like Redfall *or* Suicide Squad and instead save your money, save your time, save yourself the headache, and I dunno, go get a burger or something. That would be a better value, that's for sure.
this channel is weird because it covers topics only the hardcore "in the know" gamers would care about, but he also spends so much time re-explaining basic expositioin and opinions just about everyone knows at this point. Always has me coming in for a genuinely interesting topic, only to click out halfway because it feels like the video is running in place
Perhaps you may just not be his best audience then. I’m mostly a silent watcher, I like to have background videos going all the time but I do frequently watch Luke’s videos attentively and I’m not even a gamer of the games he talks about, yet I am almost always completely “in the know” because of him and I like that!! I may not be a gamer in the middle of the conversations of what he talks about but because of Luke’s videos I always know what’s going on and for me the “running in place” of re-explaining exposition you describe is very much appreciated ~
I've noticed it with other channels who have a majority American audience, they have to repeat themselves 3 times for the viewer to either keep up, pay attention or understand in laymans terms.
I never really had any interest in Redfall but then I saw this update. I wanna try the single player pausing that they added. I am a sucker for bleeding edge technology.
I think Tango was even worse to shut because they made a proper game with almost no bugs and still got the axe when some other studios have recently done worse than them. I am happy I never got into the gaming industry like I wanted to when I was younger.
One cool and important update that Everyone is missing Is that they added infinite ammo and it doesn't shut off achievements. You can find the option under the Accessibility tab
Of course Phil Spencer once again does his best of "Don't ask for permission ask for forgiveness" mentality on game release causing another disappointing release from AAA gaming studios marked at $70 released as a disaster.
This is not a problem with the industry it's a problem with xbox, You tell them to keep making a game they didn't want to continue making then when it flops you fire them....🤯
Is anybody else thinking about how Microsoft bought out a competitor and then closed them down right afterwards? This sounds like predatory and monopolistic behavior from Microsoft.
It's almost NEVER the "developers" fault w/these games. If it were a smaller studio, I wouldn't have NEARLY the same level of being "critical", but they get bought out by MICROSOFT which ALLLL these studios figured they'd somehow "improve" but instead they just give "bonuses" to the people in management. So the people in the trenches, get SCREWED, while the horrendous management skates away w/all the cash 💸 and payin for articles to be made talkin about anything BUT that. I GENUINELY feel bad for the "modern developers". I'm sure there's SOME studio that treats em right, but my GOD they must be few & far between nowadays. They make em go through these "crunches" & all but ruin their lives, ESPECIALLY it they have families, but nope they just treat em like dirt and reward themselves at the top--management makes these horrible "conditions", TERRIBLE monetizations no one wants to almost EVERY game, then blame the people that are almost always NOT the "true problem" in gaming
I'm one of the 10 people who kind of liked this game from the beginning. I never thought it was that bad, just not very good, mainly from a technical standpoint. Now I wish I had waited until this last update to play it.
Bro said it would become a 7-8 now 😂 i thought the characters and story in itself were garbage? If that’s the case then it shouldn’t deserve anything above a 6
@@magb8632reread my comment i literally used the words “would become” nice reading comprehension. *I said* if the characters and story are mid then it deserves no more then a 6.
@@Skateandcreate9 thats why i said "like your last sentence implies" maybe you should also check your reading comprehension skills, and it implies exactly that because it's the follow up on the statement that it would become a 7-8 now with a laughing emojy implying you're laughing about this statement and then you try to" correct"him it only deserves a 6
Or to be more precise that it deserves no more than a 6 but aldo why you have to be instantly unpleasant by trying to belittle me with my "comprehension skills"?
who remembers this quote from the horrible launch. [Game pass is for ever and red fall will always be on game pass for people to enjoy for years to come it will be updated regularly]. months later studio is closed and people didn't even get there first DLC. I knew this game was done a week after launch. I did think for a second they could redeem it but then i realized the game is beyond restoring a player base to keep it going the super fans kept saying we are getting a update soon it took 4 months to get one small update and the game only got 3 updates and it didn't really change the gameplay any, it took a year and it only got 4 updates in that time, it received the last update when they got shut down they wasn't making any progress with this game. The idea of a looter shooter vampire game is awesome they just wasn't the studio to pull it off.
The real message of the day is stop being complacent to LIVE SERVICE games. AAA games can still be great, but when they are live service games they almost always suck
The companies with the resources to make these games are not interested in making a game that's _fun_ to play. They want games that are just barely enjoyable enough to get you drudging along to maximize retention time so that your user behaviour can be farmed and sold off to advertisers while the depressed people who play these games as if it's their second job will spend additional money on microtransactions in the hope that the pleasure of having those paid cosmetics will make the game more enjoyable. Redfall being miserable is part of the scheme, it just so happened that this one fell through.
Now both companies that have made games named Prey have been shut down because of corporate greed. Real sad neither of them will get further installments now
The devs gave us a single player game.. which is what arcane always wanted to do. I think adding a pause was a big middle finger to upper management. This video made me kinda sad because I loved that studio. Dishonored was amazing. Thanks for posting.. Im going to download and play this single player game!
This game on paper had so many ideas that had me excited and even gameplay itself was fun to me, but the coop was designed so clunky and I had no one to play with and I fell off quick. Sad to see this death
Honestly, playing this via gamepass with my fiance from day 1 it is so much fun. Lackluster in a lot of aspects and I can see so many ways this game could have been amazing. But there is alot here - more than we expected. Still having fun grinding Thorin areas and collecting trinkets etc. still not done with story l. Biggest issue was simply getting infinite loading screen randomly with one of our saves and can no longer coop that character... Weird one. Not expecting any reply or update so that's that. It is a fun little game for ye ol last time playing arkane game - wish they would have at least added 60 for dishonored 2 on series x... Oof.
That's business, the employees do what they are told, even when providing a case it's not a good move. Leadership says do it this way, it gets done and isn't successful, leadership who made all the final decisions now blames their subordinates. Then the layoffs, but the leadership who was in charge of this terrible thing comes out unscathed, but their subordinates aren't that lucky. But why? If the companies initiative fails, how is it not the CEO and the rest of the Leaders calling all the shots????? It will never make sense. I'm sports when a team does bad the coach gets fired, the GM gets fired etc. bc they are making the decisions so it only makes sense. Why isn't it like this in corporate America.
So when it's not a live service game and it's offline mode it plays better (for the most part). I know Helldivers 2 exists but for the live service slop that don't need to be one like Suicide Squad shows that they don't need to be
I hate how the market heads essentially has decided that developers need to have continuous success, and if they have one bad launch then it's over forever. That's why all games from AAA studios just follow popular tropes and play it safe. Maybe these recent flops will signal the need for change, to allow devs to take creative risks and allow for some flops before cutting the entire team.
It's bittersweet knowing this is the last update. This is what the game *should* have been at launch. I'm just glad an offline mode was added so this will be playable forever.
Well forever is a bit of a stretch, since eventually it will be incompatible with the newest hardware and OS versions, and there won't be any updates to address that. But at least it will be playable for a foreseeable future.
4:00 Is that how far modern gaming has fallen, that delivering the bare minimum of a functioning piece of software is enough for a game to be worth a 7 or 8 out of 10?
I didn’t have a problem with lag But for me the “aiming” felt off Similar to womfenstein youngbloods If u get the aiming feel wrong in shooters It ruins the whole experience
It's good to see people like yourself giving the game some praise. It definitely has its faults, but it doesn't deserve the amount of hate it's been getting (mostly online). I had fun with it on Series X with the 60fps patch and would give it a 6.5/10.
It's over fam. The game is officially being laid to rest. RIP Arkane Austin and RIP Redfall...
We'll never get Prey 2, how sad
@@Luun89or a new dishonored game😪
Can a game be dead if it wasn't alive to began with
Too soon man too soon😢
Fuck xbox for shutting down arcane studios
“You can pause the game” as a bulletpoint on release notes is hilarious.
welcome to live service games, where a pause option is an addition and not included
Online games haven't allowed pausing. It becoming an offline available game (probably so they can close servers) allows the game to pause.
@@chaosryansTHATS THE PROBLEM! WHY WAS IT ALWAYS ONLINE? Because live service games are one of many cancers on the gaming industry.
@@NihilNick yeah i don't buy games that are always online because half the time the servers start out like crap, or they lose service a ways into the future so it becomes useless
Hah 😂
At this point you made more money on Redfall than the studio.
You made more money than Redfall, I made more money, most of the world made more money than this flop. Negative numbers are easy to beat with a 0.
And we got more enjoyment out of the coverage than we would if we played it.
It's pretty sad that this studio is just known for Redfall's failure now. A game that they didn't even wanna do but were forced to.
Microsoft is a cancer on the gaming industry
Battlefield 2024 first made the giant leap for mankind by putting a scoreboard in the game after launch. Now arkane is revolutionizing the industry with a pause button.
What a time to be alive
Let's not forget Starfield adding town maps 8 months after release 😂
@@tmbfreak_16 this is truly the next gen of gaming (meanwhile RDR2 out here being the most next gen game to this day and its almost 7 years old)
@@George-um2vc It's amazing what can happen when a developer gives a shit. Monster Hunter is another one that's embarrassing 99% of the gaming landscape
Wtf are game devs thinking?
@@maineman5757 That's the best part, they're not
"Offline Mode" "Single Player Pausing"
It's fucking wild this is on an update and not a thing for the base game when it launched... holy shit.
i find it incredible how many stupid comments are repeating this know the game was a live service game. theres no pausing in a game made to be co-op
@@prohdusah WTF are you talking about? It being live service has nothing to do with not being able to pause *ON SINGLE PLAYER.*
@@prohdusah'Live service' doesn't mean 'multiplayer'. There are single player games out there which are live service.
Common sense would of saved you before posting that comment.
@@prohdusah Warframe begs to differ.
I remember when Wolfenstein: New Blood had to patch in functional pausing.
People just didn't understand Redfall. It was an ACTUAL battle royale. They started with 100 players, and we are down to the final 20. It was actually really before it's time.
Good one 😂😂😂😂😂
🤣
😂😂😂
It's over not with a bang but with a whisper... Even if the game was bad it is a sad story
It's over with a whisper and with an error sound from the game crashing.
a sad story in a good or bad way
Good riddance, I say.
@@shock226 Both actually. It's a bad, sad story because it should've been a fully functioning game upon release but good cause its a flop and the corporations suffered because of the game being a mess. Gaming is the only industry you'll find people paying full price for a new product then making excuses cause its a complete mess before saying two years later "Hey stop complaining its good now....sorta"
@@velvetinedrapes4359
Redfall was rushed out by Microsoft. Hope that helps.
I love how devs always go on and on about how critical the online requirement is to their game vision, how it can't be removed, then magically find a way to patch it in months later when they realize how that requirement does nothing but piss people off by forcing the 'no pausing' bit, and other unpopular decisions. As usual, it's too little, too late. The game still looks bland as hell, nothing about it sticks out or looks any different from the mass of other games that are doing the exact same thing, but better.
Arkane austin have said they would remove the online only requirement before release
what are you saying?it was removed cos this game failed
Ok so Luke is second among the 20 active players I have found so far. Let's see if yt recommends me the remaining 18.
Here's another one.
I mean it's currently at 79 on steam. Assuming half to a quarter of that for console. Maybe 100 total.
@@Grimjr7 It'll be more on consoles/game pass though
@@Grimjr7 now come on do you REALLY mean that?
@@jal.ajeera game pass is on PC
I do want a game about vampires in a neighborhood. Either as a person against the vampires or as the vampire. This setting could have been great but Arkane was a shell of its former self and left to fall apart.
This, I always disagreed with the idea people didnt 'want' this, the idea is great, the execution was terrible.
This was MS fault. They stopped funding mid production. Game pass js destroying games.
The idea of a vampire stalking you in a house bringing similar vibes like the Xenomorph stalking you in the ship is sublime.
@@squallthegrievernope buddy
The setting does look good. New England coastal town vibes. But its such a mess you gotta hope a company who can actually make a half decent game pick the setting
Really annoys me when the higher ups make terrible decisions that cause a project or company to tank and the regular people who were just doing as they were ordered are the ones to be punished. Main reason I think lay offs should be illegal in cases of management negligence or Incompetence.
I’ve just started the game after dropping it 30 minutes in at launch.
5 hours in and it’s a bunch of fun.
It’s Borderlands x Farcry with a cool creepy suburban vampire setting.
The game could’ve been great but I’m glad it’s at least good enough and I’m going to finish it in the next few weeks.
That's genius. Give a team a terrible project, make them fail it, then fire them n say "look I got rid of the dead weight, gimme a bonus" 👀
New Tech:
- Pause Menu
- *_A business is lost, including employees while reporting record profits._*
- Works
Redfall can't be over...
It never even started.
80 hrs before the first patch. only cults have to like the same thing
@@prohdusah
I have no idea what information that conveys.
@@honaleri I think they were trying to imply they played it for 80 hours before the first patch and people who didn't like it did not like it cause of group think and cultish behavior. I THINK thats what they were trying to imply.
@@velvetinedrapes4359
Thanks. I genuinely had no idea.
@@prohdusah So you played a game that was objectively awful and worse than every competitor on the market for 80 hours to prove to yourself it wasn't bad?
Brother, that says a lot more about you than about everyone else.
I guess Redfall didn’t see its downfall
Hahaha…..
Maybe because redfall, had nowhere to fall, from the beginning
🕶️ YEEEAAAHHHHH!!!
id say greedfall seeing microsoft shuttting down the studio 😂 but already taken.
I would agree that they deserve credit for pushing this update except for the fact that it's mostly stuff that should have been done ages ago. They put out a total pos game and after a year, their studio getting shut down and canceling the dlc they'd already sold to people, they managed to get the game to what most people would consider to be a minimum playable state for an online shooter. I know it's not totally Arkane's fault, but I wouldn't applaud them for finally getting the game up to where it should've been at launch on their way out the door.
That's what I was thinking. It's good that they didn't drop the game completely, but why did it take the death of the company to get it to a mostly functional state over a year after release?
@@ASpooneyBard If they hadn't been shut down, who knows how long it would've actually been before these fixes were implemented
I disagree. This was their last update before finally closing down and shutting the door behind them and they implemented features that should've been in the game from day 1. Not to mention the game crashed three times in this video. Twice in a row. It's simply not good enough. It sounds harsh but if you apply this level of incompetency to other places like construction, firefighters, heart surgeons people would be up in arms "We did well with the previous fire but this time the guy forgot to bring the ladder.....we'll remember next time though!" and quite honestly some people just aren't cut out for their desired profession. Thats life. Maybe they should make games as a hobby and look for a career elsewhere
I’m just awaiting the moment that chess gets a battle pass
Think of all the skins! Or the pay-to-win of who goes first.
@@walterreid you start without a queen, she's the final reward in the battlepass or you can buy her that season for only 99$!
Yeah. Good on Arcane for delivering the last patch. Before Redfall released, I was really excited about it. The idea of a shooter about a team of humans in their firehouse base trying to reclaim their village from vampires is still a great game concept.
this makes me sad because i have been yearning for a badass gothic/spooky themed looter shooter 😭 it rly is a shame when a cool idea is wasted on mediocre execution
That's not even mediocre
Same.
The idea is solid
The execution was botched
@@magb8632 you’re right, i was trying to be nice 😂
I mean that's what arkane lyon is best at- single player worlds with unique aesthetics and solid mechanics. They excelled in what they knew- just some Microsoft exec forced then to do multi-player which was WAY out of their skill house
On a positive note, Arcane Lyon that developed Dishonored 2 has escaped Microsoft's death grip, which means we may one day see a third installment of the game.
Also, if you learn that Microsoft is going to buy the company you work for, it's a good idea to start looking for other opportunities before it's too late.
That's what a ton of developers did when they made this game cause they knew it was gonna suck
We need a dishonored 3!!!
2:08 why are the electric overhead wires as thick as the electricity poles holding them up? Jesus. What kind of people that never exited their apartment created this?
The funny part is that, after so much drama, this update made me interested in the game. Might buy it someday... Arkane was great. I mean... to me, Prey is legendary.
It might have cracked into the 70s had the game been like this at launch. What a shame
Oh wow, single playing pausing. What a time to be alive
Bro, I just tried diablo 4 since its on gamepass. Not a fan of blizzard. But surely a base-game hack n slash for free will be alright. Nope. Fiddly account link that took 15 minutes. Then had to wait in a queue to log in. No camera movement. The dumbest settings you can imagine. Makes cutscenes freeze at random points til you hit A. No click A to advance dialogue, no. Its like a dvd skipping. The skill menu is garbage. Its like zooming a webpage in to max, then trying to scroll the screen in all 4 directions to read.
You are reminded on every login to make a new seasonal character and buy stuff.
You can't pause the game, so inventory checking is sketchy if you aren't in town.
Its... kinda... multiplayer? I've seen other players running around, messing up my attacks or pulling enemies towards me. There is no way to play it single player.
But the worst is the game its self.
It doesn't ever try to pretend its not a game. It tells you how things spawn, and what mechanics exist without lore or irony. Every event is fight mobs, fight miniboss, chest spawns.
No attempt is made for immersion or to connect the gameplay to the story.
It feels hollow and soulless.
You can see every gear in the machine of this game, and theres no magic or mystery.
Most games do a "use 10 realm crystals to unlock the godslayer sword!" type-thing. Diablo says "give us 20 bucks. Now. And you can have.... uh... i dunno, this armor thing. It looks cool, or something. Money. Now."
And you feel it in every moment of gameplay.
@@Volyrenwhat is blud yapping about 🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥
@@Deckfighters the.... the original post was sarcasm about not being able to pause. You _do_ know how conversations work, right?
@@Volyren i know that, the sarcasm is abundantly clear in their statement, however you just randomly started typing up a full blown essay on a completely different game as a comment on some guys sarcastic joke. are you trying to idk... start some kind of serious discussion under a sarcastic comment? time and place my friend.
@@Deckfighters the place: bathroom
The time: poopies.
The birthplace of 90% of YT comments. The yap usually directly correlates to the total of your taco bell order.
I had a gift card.
Clearly the developers are capable of creating a quality game so now more than ever I have a feeling the publisher was interfering and forcing them into
making a certain type of game including the online requirement. With all these fixes the game plays more like an Arkane game. I hope the developers
are able to continue to follow their passion somewhere they can be creative and develop the types of games they want and that they enjoy playing.
A game getting a final update less than 2 years after release is something to be studied
Most see it within the first few months lol
I think going forward Luke should unplug one random cable per video and test how the game behaves.
I like this dudes content. Ive nvr even played redfall nor have an xbox or pc but his videos r easy listens
It’s all over, but the crying…yeah, I’ve been listening to some Diamond City radio lately.
I actually laughed at this. Heard this song in the last 10 minutes myself in my survival play through of F4.
So, the game is a polished turd* now.
Pst... check your spelling...
@@TheHK_47 Thanks. Autocorrect can be a troll sometimes.
@@KaoruMzk no problem
I hope another publisher scoops this team up, buys them a new studio to work in, because they have the talent. They have never made a multiplayer game like this, and it's no surprise that it didn't work out. Prey was my jam and the hope for a Prey 2 is gone.
14:21 honestly the most creative “don’t forget to subscribe” I’ve ever seen 😂😂😂😂
Bethesda/Microsoft did like one of the finishers in Redfall and staked their own game... and studio too.
Out of curiosity, if this is the last update, what happened to all the dlc characters. They just pull the plug in them. If so, how is there no class action or massive wave of refunds for the bite back edition.
So what are the repiration rewards for those who pre-ordered the £120 Bite Back edition? *Raises hand in shame*
Unfortunately I havent seen any news covering that, which I think is illegal for a company to do...However, Im also not sure if that purchase only followed "Arkane Austin" or the greater Zenimax for legal liability as I didnt buy that...
I almost bought that physical upgrade steelbook pack... Almost.
It's an important lesson to learn
No shame, you had hope in something that seemed like it was gonna be fun
Personally, I think the vampire boyfriend summon thing is underrated. Is he the only vampire that actively fights against the vampires, or what?
Sucks but respect for putting offline mode 😢
Redfall patch notes
"Added more frequent crashes for user engagement"
if anyone reading this feels burned by Redfall, i cannot recommend picking up Prey 2017. i put it off for years but last year i finally played it and loved it. its a shame Arkane Austin never got the chance to make a sequel.
heres hoping Arkane Lyon can still get the chance to cook
I wanted the actual Prey 2 where I play as a badass bounty hunter in space interacting with Tommy from the original game.
Tried it. Boring. Too tedious. Started a handgun build, and it wasn't fun
@@porkerpete7722 get good
*can recommend
@@porkerpete7722 Felt the same Bruv. Not sure why these guys are all praises.
14:19 _"I am alive. I am confident. I am badass."_
Wow, that is some cringey dialogue. That's right up there with the likes of Forspoken and the Saints Row reboot.
It really would take a lot of context to make that anything else. A sympathetic character trying to hype themselves up for a tough fight could work with that.
Forspoken gets way too much hate. The dialog ain't great, but the gameplay and combat is solid.
Hey wait... You mean I don't have to be signed into some server with an undisclosed expiry date to be able to play a game that I spend money on?
I might actually bother giving this a go now.
this is so sad to me. Dishonored is my favourite game of all time. Arkane was forced to make a live-service looter when their strength is in stealth single-player (even just look at the great, critically acclaimed Prey 2017). The game unsurprisingly flopped and now the studio is being shut down. As a Dishonored fan, this is soul-crushing. I'm French and when I was in uni studying to be a sound designer, my dream was to get into Arkane Lyon, that's how much I love this studio and IP. I can only hope that Arkane Lyon will develop another Dishonored now that the Austin studio is closing. I fucking hate Microsoft, man.
So it's now basically far cry with vampires. Ill play that for like 10$
You could say Redfall took a ..... fall.... I'll be here all night
Redfall devs: this final patch will improve the game's stability
Redfall's final patch: 16:04
Red fall is actually good not going to lie I hope they keep it up for 3 years
So we're not getting a redfall 2? This was the best vampire game I've ever played. It pushed the boundaries of what a game should be, it was sooooo fun to play
The crashing was so perfect. 😂
It's like 13 bucks for the game on IG, might give it a shot with one playthrough. Can't be worse than Suicide Squad Kills The Justice League.🤷
13 bucks is still too much. I'll wait for it to drop around 1 or 2 dollars.
Or better yet, not buy garbage games like Redfall *or* Suicide Squad and instead save your money, save your time, save yourself the headache, and I dunno, go get a burger or something. That would be a better value, that's for sure.
Probably not as bas as Suicide Squad but still a bad game. Honestly don't bother.
It is worst. The question is "Is it better than Gollum?"
It also costs time.
Yea this was what the game was supposed to come out as. It seems like it was supposed to be fallout esc but Microsoft wanted it's live service hit
them getting rid of tango was the worse move ever also loved their game especially the evil within
It doesn't deserve praise for shit. They took people's money for an expansion that never released.
Maybe you missed them refunding people.🤦
At least it has offline now. Perhaps modders can make something of it.
this channel is weird because it covers topics only the hardcore "in the know" gamers would care about, but he also spends so much time re-explaining basic expositioin and opinions just about everyone knows at this point. Always has me coming in for a genuinely interesting topic, only to click out halfway because it feels like the video is running in place
Agree
Perhaps you may just not be his best audience then. I’m mostly a silent watcher, I like to have background videos going all the time but I do frequently watch Luke’s videos attentively and I’m not even a gamer of the games he talks about, yet I am almost always completely “in the know” because of him and I like that!!
I may not be a gamer in the middle of the conversations of what he talks about but because of Luke’s videos I always know what’s going on and for me the “running in place” of re-explaining exposition you describe is very much appreciated ~
I don't mind it actually because I'm ADHD as fuck which is probably why I gravitate towards his videos but I hear ya
I've noticed it with other channels who have a majority American audience, they have to repeat themselves 3 times for the viewer to either keep up, pay attention or understand in laymans terms.
Gotta get that ad revenue
I never really had any interest in Redfall but then I saw this update. I wanna try the single player pausing that they added. I am a sucker for bleeding edge technology.
It's so good!
Do it. I just got it today and I have been having a lot of fun. Never played launch but this is indeed a good game to play.
Good game to pause. Not to actually play
I think Tango was even worse to shut because they made a proper game with almost no bugs and still got the axe when some other studios have recently done worse than them. I am happy I never got into the gaming industry like I wanted to when I was younger.
Did they add any characters people might want to play as?
One cool and important update that Everyone is missing Is that they added infinite ammo and it doesn't shut off achievements. You can find the option under the Accessibility tab
Of course Phil Spencer once again does his best of "Don't ask for permission ask for forgiveness" mentality on game release causing another disappointing release from AAA gaming studios marked at $70 released as a disaster.
6:28 yo, mistah white?
I didn’t notice that 😂
@LukeStephensTV You forgot to blur at 16:15
They didn’t learn anything. Turn and burn.
Man Prey didnt capture me at all what am i missing? I think i uninstalled it after 30 minutes or so.
This is not a problem with the industry it's a problem with xbox, You tell them to keep making a game they didn't want to continue making then when it flops you fire them....🤯
Is anybody else thinking about how Microsoft bought out a competitor and then closed them down right afterwards? This sounds like predatory and monopolistic behavior from Microsoft.
It's really cool to see this stuff available for those who did enjoy the game but at the core it still has a lot of problems.
It's almost NEVER the "developers" fault w/these games. If it were a smaller studio, I wouldn't have NEARLY the same level of being "critical", but they get bought out by MICROSOFT which ALLLL these studios figured they'd somehow "improve" but instead they just give "bonuses" to the people in management. So the people in the trenches, get SCREWED, while the horrendous management skates away w/all the cash 💸 and payin for articles to be made talkin about anything BUT that. I GENUINELY feel bad for the "modern developers". I'm sure there's SOME studio that treats em right, but my GOD they must be few & far between nowadays. They make em go through these "crunches" & all but ruin their lives, ESPECIALLY it they have families, but nope they just treat em like dirt and reward themselves at the top--management makes these horrible "conditions", TERRIBLE monetizations no one wants to almost EVERY game, then blame the people that are almost always NOT the "true problem" in gaming
Is the pause feature part of the season pass ?
I'm one of the 10 people who kind of liked this game from the beginning. I never thought it was that bad, just not very good, mainly from a technical standpoint. Now I wish I had waited until this last update to play it.
16:03 Sins of the Father 👀 Solid Music Choice. 👍🏾🔥
Bro said it would become a 7-8 now 😂 i thought the characters and story in itself were garbage? If that’s the case then it shouldn’t deserve anything above a 6
He doesn't say it deserves a 7-8 like your last sentence implies, he says it could get a 7-8
@@magb8632reread my comment i literally used the words “would become” nice reading comprehension. *I said* if the characters and story are mid then it deserves no more then a 6.
@@Skateandcreate9 thats why i said "like your last sentence implies" maybe you should also check your reading comprehension skills, and it implies exactly that because it's the follow up on the statement that it would become a 7-8 now with a laughing emojy implying you're laughing about this statement and then you try to" correct"him it only deserves a 6
Or to be more precise that it deserves no more than a 6 but aldo why you have to be instantly unpleasant by trying to belittle me with my "comprehension skills"?
@@magb8632touch grass
who remembers this quote from the horrible launch. [Game pass is for ever and red fall will always be on game pass for people to enjoy for years to come it will be updated regularly]. months later studio is closed and people didn't even get there first DLC. I knew this game was done a week after launch.
I did think for a second they could redeem it but then i realized the game is beyond restoring a player base to keep it going the super fans kept saying we are getting a update soon it took 4 months to get one small update and the game only got 3 updates and it didn't really change the gameplay any, it took a year and it only got 4 updates in that time, it received the last update when they got shut down they wasn't making any progress with this game.
The idea of a looter shooter vampire game is awesome they just wasn't the studio to pull it off.
I will say this, i'm glad they implemented an offline mode and single player pause.
I love how sometimes you blur the icons on your desktop, and other times you do not. What's the point haha. You can see everything here 16:14
The msg of the day should be stop supporting AAA gaming companies.
The real message of the day is stop being complacent to LIVE SERVICE games. AAA games can still be great, but when they are live service games they almost always suck
@@og_dith3865 nah its the AAA which is the issue because that became the benchmark
I love the dishonored series and prey. Sad to see them go.
Luke: "We're still gonna have those live-service mess games".
**Cough** (Concord) **Cough**
Concord looked interesting until they said it was a 5v5 FPS, and that completely killed all interest in it.
2:05
I don't know to me it still don't make sense since they closed tango as well
Why is it so hard to just make a fun co-op shooter? The last good co-op shooter I played must have been Borderlands 3.
The companies with the resources to make these games are not interested in making a game that's _fun_ to play.
They want games that are just barely enjoyable enough to get you drudging along to maximize retention time so that your user behaviour can be farmed and sold off to advertisers while the depressed people who play these games as if it's their second job will spend additional money on microtransactions in the hope that the pleasure of having those paid cosmetics will make the game more enjoyable.
Redfall being miserable is part of the scheme, it just so happened that this one fell through.
Now both companies that have made games named Prey have been shut down because of corporate greed. Real sad neither of them will get further installments now
At this point…it’s the devs of Arkane Austin putting out their resumes
11:20 Yes I am very glad I gave Prey a second try, didn't grab me the first time when it came out
This is kind of a sad video lol. Thank you Arcane for giving us Prey, such an underrated masterpiece.
Redfall is kind of ideal as a single player experience.
An open-world vampire apocalypse from the studio that developed Prey...
What's not to like?
The devs gave us a single player game.. which is what arcane always wanted to do. I think adding a pause was a big middle finger to upper management. This video made me kinda sad because I loved that studio. Dishonored was amazing. Thanks for posting.. Im going to download and play this single player game!
This game on paper had so many ideas that had me excited and even gameplay itself was fun to me, but the coop was designed so clunky and I had no one to play with and I fell off quick.
Sad to see this death
Honestly, playing this via gamepass with my fiance from day 1 it is so much fun. Lackluster in a lot of aspects and I can see so many ways this game could have been amazing. But there is alot here - more than we expected. Still having fun grinding Thorin areas and collecting trinkets etc. still not done with story l. Biggest issue was simply getting infinite loading screen randomly with one of our saves and can no longer coop that character... Weird one. Not expecting any reply or update so that's that. It is a fun little game for ye ol last time playing arkane game - wish they would have at least added 60 for dishonored 2 on series x... Oof.
That's business, the employees do what they are told, even when providing a case it's not a good move. Leadership says do it this way, it gets done and isn't successful, leadership who made all the final decisions now blames their subordinates. Then the layoffs, but the leadership who was in charge of this terrible thing comes out unscathed, but their subordinates aren't that lucky. But why? If the companies initiative fails, how is it not the CEO and the rest of the Leaders calling all the shots????? It will never make sense. I'm sports when a team does bad the coach gets fired, the GM gets fired etc. bc they are making the decisions so it only makes sense. Why isn't it like this in corporate America.
did they remove denuvo drm?
i ask as that was a major issue with pc crashing and the whole kernal drm in a offline game
So when it's not a live service game and it's offline mode it plays better (for the most part). I know Helldivers 2 exists but for the live service slop that don't need to be one like Suicide Squad shows that they don't need to be
I hate how the market heads essentially has decided that developers need to have continuous success, and if they have one bad launch then it's over forever. That's why all games from AAA studios just follow popular tropes and play it safe.
Maybe these recent flops will signal the need for change, to allow devs to take creative risks and allow for some flops before cutting the entire team.
It's bittersweet knowing this is the last update. This is what the game *should* have been at launch. I'm just glad an offline mode was added so this will be playable forever.
Well forever is a bit of a stretch, since eventually it will be incompatible with the newest hardware and OS versions, and there won't be any updates to address that. But at least it will be playable for a foreseeable future.
4:00 Is that how far modern gaming has fallen, that delivering the bare minimum of a functioning piece of software is enough for a game to be worth a 7 or 8 out of 10?
The developers a 100% added offline mode so that the game would be easier to crack and pirate lol
Luke "I tried XYZ after the big update" Stephens
Key to a good live service is having a iterative model instead of a waterfall model.
I didn’t have a problem with lag
But for me the “aiming” felt off
Similar to womfenstein youngbloods
If u get the aiming feel wrong in shooters
It ruins the whole experience
It's good to see people like yourself giving the game some praise. It definitely has its faults, but it doesn't deserve the amount of hate it's been getting (mostly online). I had fun with it on Series X with the 60fps patch and would give it a 6.5/10.
It's never been this over Refall-bro's.