Raymond Rougeau on Dynamite Kid Fight!
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- RAYMOND ROUGEAU ON DYNAMITE KID FIGHT!
Former "Fabulous Rougeau Brother," Quebec wrestling legend and long-time WWE announcer Raymond Rougeau discusses the infamous WWE backstage incidents between him, his brother Jacques "The Mountie" Rougeau and "The Dynamite Kid" Tom Billington of The British Bulldogs tag team.
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very in depth interview. Nicely done. Subscribed.
Depends on how many spin's you hear of it I guess
@@tidefanman1there is no “spin”. Almost everyone has said the same story. Dynamite Kid wasn’t a nice person. Even to his own cousin Davey Boy. Its ok to be a fan of someone’s body of work yet not liking them as a person. It’s called living in a free Country. Same with Benoit.
This story never gets old.
i've watched this whole video 5 times
Sage Antone It sure in the hell doesn't 😂😂😂
@Sage Antone, yeah, it's as fresh as ever
U tired of hearing it yet , his brother just gave a new take on it yesterday lol
@@TruthSeekr2662 Dynamite beat this coward face to face. This coward sucker punched Dynamite. Sign of a weak man
It’s so good to see some older wrestlers in great shape and good health
Raymond aged well and did well for himself post wrestling. Thats kinda rare and refreshing to see.
He certainly did! I noticed the same thing!
Raymond is a class act and one legitimately tough SOB. Good for him standing back and letting Jacques get his receipt and just being there to absorb any extras that happened to be around to interfere.
Jacques and Raymond are two class acts and were incredibly talented workers in their day. Thanks for sharing this great interview and look into one of the all time great locker room stories.
@@alberttwangle893 Finish him? MOOORRRRTTAAAALLLL WOOOOMMMBAAATTTT...
Oh absolutely! Ray Rougeau was a legitimately tough dude!
One of the best interviews and riveting storytelling by Raymond. Had me on the edge of my seat.
If only it were televised lol. Should be a made for TV 🎬
Easily one of the best backstage WWE stories ever. A few takeaways. Dynamite was a bully and a prick. There will always be a kliq. And Raymond is an amazing storyteller.
Not at all Bret hart did an interview and said Raymond and them was hated by the backroom
@seanlinesteammvg4967 What do you expect Brett to say? The Rougeaus might have been pricks, but we all know the Dynamite Kid and Davey Boys were assholes.
@@seanlinesteammvg4967every member of the hart foundation is dead apart from bret, there’s no way he’s ever going to dishonour their legacy by validating any of these true stories, it’s commendable to a certain extent, he’s loyal for sure
@@seanlinesteammvg4967I think in this case both statements are true.
Bret sang Dynamite's praises constantly in his book, but even he said Tom had it coming with his attitude and what he was doing to his wife and other wrestlers.
Raymond was extremely gracious and humble
throughout this entire interview.I tip my hat to him.
I hear you. I feel the same way.
“I couldn’t even beat up my sister” ....to be fair knowing the rougeau men, I have a feeling most of us couldn’t beat up your sister either 😂
I'm still scared of their sister 3 years later 🤣
Can't blame the Mountie after all he always gets his man
If he would have his taser back then Dynamite would have been in for a shock.
Qui.
Love Mr. Perfect but in this instance he caused all the trouble. To be honest all four of them should of kicked his ass.
Henning knew there was real heat to begin with and wanted to get a kick outta it... it seems anyway
@@Kshep84 *Hennig*
There wasn't anyone named "Henning".
Hennig was a prick for that and Dynamite probably didn't care if he was telling him the truth anyway. He loved trouble. Dr. D David Schultz woulda beat Dynamite's ass!
@@vcvortex6356 🤦♂️
@@Kshep84 You can post any emoji you wish. However the fact remains that his name was Curt Hennig, and it was pronounced that way. "Henning" never existed in any wrestling organization in the world.
We need more of these soft spoken wrestlers that don't talk like Savage, Hogan or Ventura.
Ventura is incredibly talented and his resume proves that but he talks like a 5 year old with an attitude
You realize that off-camera, out of their persona, none of those guys talk like their characters, right? They're all pretty soft-spoken guys.
Everyone by now has seen Dynamite's interviews and read his book. I did as I was a fan of his at the time. Based on this interview, I believe Raymond is 100% telling the truth of what happened. What's really sad is that I was a genuine fan of Dynamite Kid but he turned out to be such a prick in real life. It's well known he treated his wife far worse than he treated his fellow wrestlers. Well if it's any consolation to the Rougeaus, they are both alive, healthy and wealthy and Tommy Billington sadly passed away crippled and in poverty living on assistance in England. Maybe there is such a thing as karma.
He got what his punk ass had coming too him, he died miserable, cripple, and im sure living an unwealthy life style. He was a no good human being
He held a gun at her
He broke an 11 years old girls legs to get insurance money, the guy was pure scum and the world is a better place now he’s gone.
@@timnavarrette6932 He did all kinds of horrible things to her, and many other people as well. Complete POS human being.
On his 60th bday he passed
The Rougeau's and the Bulldogs should have had a 'talk' with Henning.
Totally agree. Hennig should've have been held accountable for his actions.
Curt Hennig played both sides, I begin to wonder why he didn’t win the WWE championship during his WWE run
@@jcngokai-76 That would definitely make sense. That was Hennig's punishment not being able to win the WWE championship. Vince definitely punished him for sure letting him know that you will not win the WWE championship for creating such a horrible situation.
@@Brook11223 I wonder if thats true, cuz I've never really heard much about Hennig being punished or getting heat with boys over his ribbing, they just all seem to love him for it........even the Rougeau's don't seem to really hold much anger towards him, but if it were me I'd be pissed at him too
@@Tony-fq5bn Hennig is very much at fault and Rougeau's holding no grudge towards him is just horseshit. They know Hennig was the one that locked their gear to the locker and still wanted to believe that Dynamite did but this time it was not Dynamite and Curt Hennig took advantage of the situation to ruin another wrestler's career which I think is just unfair. Yes Dynamite is a bully and a ribber but in this circumstance he is not at fault. Curt is at fault and Jacq should've gone after Curt and not Dynamite.
wow Raymond actually looks and sounds really good here!!!!he looks as though he's taken care of himself over the years! good for him!!!!
+allen collamore He's 60 and looks great.
+Fanik10 he is respected by alot of wrestlers
+alex kanyima I believe it.
he looks like every Hockey Night in Canada correspondent you've ever seen. 🇨🇦
The Mountie always gets his man
just not in Canada
hahahaha!! love it!
Lmao.
Raymond is a nice guy, class act
I remember shaking Ray Rougaeu's hand back in 1988. It was at the Columbus convention center during a WWF house show. I was 9 years old.
My stepfather took me to wrestling shows all the time. Ray walked down the isle just to observe a match. He stood in the isle just to watch a match. He was out of character but in his wrestling attire. I looked over at him and he walked over and shook my hand and my stepdads hand. He seemed like a very nice guy.
This is the most exciting interview/shoot I ever heard. Wow!
Yup. Absolutely agreed! Ray Rougeau sure knows how to tell a compelling story!
Raymond Rougeau looks like Gibbs (Mark Harmon) on NCIS. He sure can talk!
+John Roy I was just thinking that.
That's why I originally clicked the video.
Just think, he's even better talker in French.
Dude aged pretty well.
@@alberttwangle893 gay?
@@alberttwangle893 must be gay then
One of the best interviews I have ever seen. You can tell he is being honest and speaking from the heart.
Incredible account. Ray is so interesting when he talks.
You notice how Raymond never blinks?! That's a sign of a man who's telling the truth. A lot of wrestlers have said ray rougeau is a man not to be messed with!
Now that's all l see!!
Blinks like fuck when he says he didn't get knocked out.
@@vinnyboomcatz9414 - The blinking is morse code for "Only a fucking mark would be counting how many times I blink when I say I wasn't knocked out".
Ray Rougeau is a legit tough guy
He does blink
The smile on his face, you can tell he loves telling this story 😁
I always wondered if anyone ever approached Curt Hennig about his role in that incident.
I'm Canadian but as a kid I didn't much care for the Rougeaus as baby faces. But when they turned heel & did that whole "all American Boys" thing I stared to love them. As heels I thought the whole thing was brilliant! A very original take on HEEL.
CARTOONIVERSE1 same, it was brilliant, Raymond use to do that kung fu kick to the midsection and Jacque use to do that kick up from the ground, very funny, oh and they use to hug which was funny as, always like these 2, everyone knows the rougeaus are the best.
I hated these guys as a kid, which as an adult now I appreciate. Great entertainers.
this is so informational, finally I get to hear Raymond tell it like it is, the more I hear, the less respect I have for Henning I have, God bless Raymond& Jacques Rougeou
Randy Hutchinson Tons of respect for Raymond, but I have always detested both Jacques and Curt. Dynamite was an amazing wrestler, but a shitty human being. In this case, payback was warranted.
@@bigroaststyrone8135 it seemed to me Henning knew there was real heat and wanted to stir the pot for a kick...
Does it make you glad that curt and dynamite are dead?
The Rougeau's Dad was a real badass. In the 50s he worked at one of the worst bars in Montreal where there were fights every nights and he would clean the place up. He then was trained to be a wrestler and he became a huge star in French Canada.
+Johnny Skinwalker Trained by his brother jean "Johnny" Rougeau, another heavy hitter
+Johnny Skinwalker I recall seeing the elder Red when I was a kid. I latched on to these guys right away when they first came on the scene just because of their ol' man. Class act all the way.
Perfect trolling
I heard jacque hit him with a pair of brass knuckles (maybe a roll of quarters) and that's how he knocked his teeth out. Also I think this was in response to dynamite killing jacque in a previous fight.
Ok well he said roll of quarters so I guess that answers that.
Growing up as a kid seeing him fly around Edouard Carpentier style with his brother, cousin, uncle, dad, it was kind of sad that the version that ended up 20+ years later in WWE was so limited. This boy sure could fly. When you were wrestling your friends in the yard everyone wanted to be Raymond.
Curt was a notorious ribber and that is fine. However, instigating and increasing real heat between people is very annoying. I worked with a guy that did just that and he was a total POS but didn't have the positive qualities that Curt did. He was the brother of the owner and was eventually fired. The point is that if your are going to be a ribber and instigator, you better have good qualities to even things out or you will get screwed one way or another.
I mean.....it really seems like Curt never got any receipts, or even any real heat for what he did, all the guys just liked him more for it, but Dynamite and Mountie both really owed Curt a big receipt for that, thats some serious shit
@@Tony-fq5bn he got his receipt, he's where he belongs now.
Without knowing too much about personalities and politics in wrestling from my understanding Curt was new to WWF when this incident occurred, unless all the wrestlers from all the different organisations knew each other back then that's a real s****y way to bring yourself into a new company
I loved that I heard Marty J.s version first. He totally said that he heard the brother talking to him in French, coaching him like a boxing couch and throwing out demands. Love when stories match up from multi sources because you know.... Hey this story may be more % real than others.
Never had Martys version but I would like to. Do you have a link?
Marty jannetty is a compulsive liar.
Wow, 29 minutes passed so quickly...heard/read/watched this story so many times, none have comapared to this. Fantastic interview
Ray seems like the type of guy who should be working on the board of directors of wwe.
He still works for them as a French announcer. He was hired back a few months after he did this interview.
@@TheHannibalTV Do you speak French?
Interesting hearing Raymond's version. That story never gets old. crazy
+Richard Eicholtz plus his version is not bullshit,unlike the Dynamite Kids.
+BroncosFan1990 No joke.
i've watched many shoots on Dynamite Kid now some had a beef so they'll say crap about them but when it's almost unanimous how wrestlers thought of Dynamite Kid was a prick you can be sure he really was
I could watch Raymond talk for hours. Man, I love this story.
'I'll stay polite about it, but I don't give it much credibility.' Well said, like a real Canadian. Nice country, too.
Always, always stand up for yourself or a bully will do just that. I can remember 2 or 3 fights in my life where I genuinely did not want to fight the other guy based on his reputation and every time whether I won or not I gained respect from the other person and they knew their running over me without a fight was over. More importantly It will make you respect yourself even more.
Probably the best version of the story I've heard. Bien joué, mon Raymond!
Jacques is not a natural badass like Raymond.
You have to respect his guts for going through with it.
I know there are always 2 sides to a story but if this is the real version of what happened then Raymond Rougeau is a badass who quite rightly dont take shit off anybody.
Jacques tells it pretty much almost exactly the same way in another interview. Obviously brothers could corroborate and make sure their side of events was right but you can tell both are genuine decent men and this is how the situation most probably went word for word.
Trigmasterr06 from what I've heard no one in the lockeroom liked dynamite he was a complete asshole he was known for being rough with up and comers in the ring and would give them stiff closelines
@@Ac3Saint I listened to a version by Jacques where the involvement of Kurt Henning wasn't mentioned it's possible he learned of it at a later time.
What a story. Not only that but also Raymond Rougeau's enthralling accounts of events. I sat through the whole video glued to my seat.
A really great story. Mr. Perfect’s prank starts a damn war.
What a receipt! Beautiful
I have heard this story from many wrestlers. Most are quite similar. Jacques did what he had to do, Raymond had a reputation as being tougher than he appeared. Dynamite Kid never went down after the shot. All similar from various sources.
Yea that's correct. He hit him side on with a make shift knucledustser while he had a cigarette and a cup of coffee in his hand and he still didn't put him down. So make of that what you will. And his description of dynamite hitting him from behind is incorrect as well that's been confirmed by people there. I don't like dynamite kid but one can't question his toughness.
@@ceet12 i dont think id call it a makeshift knuckle duster. The roll of quarters added weight to the punch but a duster goes over the knuckles so you hit them with steel/brass
I bet Vince respected the rougeau's from that point.
Raymon is a stand up guy
I was happy that Ray stayed active in the WWF as an announcer after Jacques became the Mountie. On Canadian TV, he did the house show promos that Billy Red Lyons did before him. But then he began working exclusively in French. I didn't have that cable channel--I wouldn't have understood him without subtitles anyway.
Nice to see some wrestlers had successful post wrestling career. Rougeau's are so underated. Respect.
I respect the hell outta The Rougeaus, especially Raymond! Dynamite had it coming for him, he was a great wrestler but he's a horrible person.
was he a prick , because of a attitude problems ?
alex kanyima
Not only a prick and bully to his fellow wrestlers back in the day but an abusive husband too. He pointed a gun once at his sleeping wife and told her next time that it would be loaded! (This is why u don't do drugs lol.)
Super Mastodon he is using drugs ??
alex kanyima
Heard he was, not 100% sure though.
+Super Mastodon drugs dont turn people into assholes. drugs just give an excuse for assholes to act naturally
Incredible interview, incredible shoot as always. Angles on stuff nobody on the net has really heard before. Hannibal is starting to do some of the best shoot interviews in the industry because of his connections and stuff. He's got his hand in everything, I think eventually after his career this could be a big thing for him, ya never know
Thanks for the upload, great stuff as usual...I've heard a lot of other wrestlers in shoot interviews say that Raymond was/is a legitimate tough guy
But is not a legit badass
Big fan of wrestling and on the Rougeau family from 1967 .. Great storytelling Raymond you are a great athlete and wish you well ... big thank you of your work in your business 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I have watched the several times, due to Raymond telling a good story, great interview.
Raymond is a brilliant man. i really enjoyed hearing about this.Great story teller---nice job
...the more I listen to Ray Rougeau speak, the more I want to listen!! If ever the was a former wrestler who needs a podcast, it's this guy!!
The guys in the locker room were in on the attack of Jacques. It was planned. However, they didn't count on the roll of quarters.
got his money's worth.
bitch move, imo.
@@y2flu dealing with a bully there's no such thing. Jaques got attacked from behind, he responded in kind. It's not the old school challenge to a duel, it's a sneaky thing on both sides, only dynamite didn't use a weapon.
@@sleazyfellow yeah, I'm not sure an open hand slap to the back of the head warrants a sucker punch in the mouth with a roll of quarters. But Dynamite started it so I guess they felt it warranted a more severe retaliation
I loved the Rougeau brothers, great athletes, great workers. So much details from Raymond in this interview. I believe him 100% for that story with the bulldogs. He is humble, credible and honest.
Thank God he gave us the short version
Great interviews you do thank you . Bring me back to being a kid i apreciate what you do thanks again
I always respect interviewers who only speak when they need to, and they let the guest speak fully.
Great clip! I've seen shoots with alot of people telling this story But never herd ray Rougeau's side if it. Thanks for posting
I think this is the first time I've heard this story from Raymond. I've heard it from Jacques, Lanny Poffo, Bad News Brown, and Bret Hart in other interviews. Bad News is the only one I can remember who's supported Dynamite over this. Even Bret Hart who was really close with Dynamite has said that Dynamite had it coming because he'd bullied so many guys in the past. Bret Hart also was one of the guys who warned Dynamite that the Rougeaus would retaliate. Apparently loads of the wrestlers warned Dynamite Kid that there would be a comeback for hitting Jacques and he ignored all the warnings.
+MrMetalover666 Bad News and Dynamite were good friends since Stampede.
Fanik10 So I gather. Bad News was probably the one guy there that Dynamite Kid knew better than to fuck with so he buddied up to him instead.
MrMetalover666
pretty much, yeah.
MrMetalover666 they were Beer Belly Share Croppers
@@Fanik10 Brian Pillman also stated once that he didnt particularly give a shit about dynamite and that he was a prick.
You could tell Ray's a legit tough guy with his laid back attitude of not backing down.
Thank you to the Rougeau Brothers
Any time you search "Bullies getting dealt with" This should be the first result that comes up
epic story. Curt Hennig the 'perfect' shit stirrer
I think Curt went kinda far with this tbh
He performed the perfect OD
One of my favorite shoots. A classic story of a bully getting put in his place. Not to talk trash about Dynamite but well told too by Mr. Raymond.
Worked in Calgary........ Ranchmans & Long Bar working the door in the early 1980's. Met many of the wrestlers, never met the Rougeau's. Having heard this man talk would have never thought he was part of the scene back then. The bulldogs were smaller than me physically, and in no time became specimens. I could see the story shared as being forthright and honest. Truthfully, the consumption of beer back in the day was the regiment.....more body fat and less injuries......lol ..Great Channel..stay safe
Such a great story. Ray is a true gentleman. Much respect
I've watched this interview many times, but I've just realised it paints Vince in a *very* good light
but Mancho Man..."ooooh yeah!" ***slams door shut
Best interview ever
Dynamite got a taste of his own medecine
According to Killer Bee Jim Brunzell, Dynamite pissed in Outback Jack's face and got Outback in the mouth. Outback was drunk and spitting the urine away. I also heard one of the Bulldogs squirted crazy glue in his hat.
@Ryan Jessen I hear ya, Lad. Takes a special kind of asshole to wanna do that to someone. Dynamite got his frenemy drunk and defenseless, then pissed on him. I HATE hearing stories of anyone getting hurt, but I don't feel sorry that Jacques knocked his teeth out.
Dynamite didn't stop after he jumped Jacques in the locker room. Im sure you heard of the flight attendant story. He kept picking on Jacques and also asking Ray how his injured knee was. He was more or less asking Raymond if he's ready to fight. Bret Hart and Dino Bravo tried to warn Dynamite of his future and boy did he get it. His career faded to shit from there.
@@JoeDMurphy spot on!, Dynamite Kid went WAY to far, to much nasty shit going on with him,heard Bill Anderson telling a story of how he drugged a lad,with of the guys who sets the ring up,takes it down, Dynamite spiked his drink, could of killed him,he did this to get his Jollies,not sure if this story is true, Dynamite broke a young girls leg,so her parents could claim some insurance money or something like that?,and he agreed to break it,like I say,nasty bloke, deserved a good slap.
@@tommytaylor5195 true it was his niece he broke her legs for the insurance money, he also set fire to another wrestler while he was sleeping he was a total pos and karma got him good.
very underrated, the rougeaus never got the credit they deserved,..
well they did'nt connected enough with the fans
One of the best interviews
My favorite wrestling interview/story, love Jacques too.
So is Curt Hennig the ultimate mastermind behind this rivalry between The Rougeau's and Dynamite Kid? I think personally the one responsible is Curt Hennig because he caused this feud and he should've been held responsible. I am a fan of Mr. Perfect aka Curt Hennig but what he caused here was just low and horrible. He should've been held accountable and all 4 of them should've gone after Curt Hennig instead of them fighting each other.
I was at that taping in Fort Wayne. I still live about 3 miles away from the coliseum as I watch this. I remember that night well. The word about what happened traveled to us fans in the crowd that night somehow. I was a kid at the time, and still remember that night well.
Raymond is a man of his word. I believe him
great story, thank you!!
Why couldn't Vince just get them in a room together so they can found out that they were all being played by Mr. Prefect lol.
how do you know that is mr perfect ?
BroncosFan1990 shut the fuck up
Because by that point it didn't matter. Things had already gone too far.
amazing story.
I've heard this story before but not from his brother.
So many lessons here, manhood, courage, redemption, fear, bullies, being watchful.
I stood up to a bully back 87, i hit him in the mouth after being beat up and bullied for months, he was shocked.
My only mistake was i didn't realize he was going to come back and try to save face, so right after it happened I was somewhere with my back completely turned at my locker and he came back and beat me pretty bad from behind, nobody had taught me how to watch my back and keep my head on a swivel.... But even though I got my butt kicked from his comeback, the bullying did stop
Wow, what a horrible culture to have to work in.
Agreed
Frankie Flannery - today’s wrestlers are actual normal people, and not psycho drug addicts with serious mental issues
@@dantegood2195 That's Why Adults Don't Watch Wrestling Anymore, Only Kids and Marks
It's a macho locker room culture. Dog eat dog. Is what it is. But you're right.
Please.
Great interview 👍
back in my kid days the rougeau brothers was one of my favorite tag team's ..i got a lot of them..strike force, powers of pain, demolition, road warriors aka "legion of doom" the hart foundation, rockers, islanders, 80's wwf era of wrestling was lit..
One of the best parts of the story is missing. In Jacques' account, after Hogan says, "I'm outta here," Macho Man walks in, sees all the blood, says "Woooooo" in his distinct voice, turns right back around and leaves the room.
Watched the whole thing. Loved it.
This interview dovetails perfectly with Jacques interview. The sad thing is almost everybody associated with this incident has passed, Dynamite, Davey boy, Bad News, Warrior, Dino Bravo.
I got nothing but respect for the Rougeau brothers. The way I see it, if you play asshole games you win asshole prizes. Dynamite kid has it coming.
Ray was tougher than Jacques, Davey or dynamite. it's always the quiet, peaceful guys that you don't mess with..
Dynamite deserved two separate receipts since he hit both of them. He got off easy.
Lesson to learn: don’t be a bully.
Ribs are often couched as mischief to break up the monotony, but with a sense of brotherhood.
But that's not always the case. Sometimes, especially with people like Tommy Billington, they are ways to bully and torment others.
Jacques was in a very tough spot. Tommy was not only a notorious bully, he also was a legitimate tough guy and a very dangerous fighter. When people say Jacques' attack was cowardly -- and maybe it indeed was -- it was the only way he could have beaten him up. Facing off with him, even with Raymond, wouldn't have worked. Dynamite probably would have hurt them both. Bad.
Add to the fact that Dynamite had his entourage with him most times... which included his buddy Bad News Brown, another legitimately dangerous man, things could have really gotten bad. Jacques ambush had like a 100 to 1 shot of succeeding, and lucky for him, that "1" came up.
maybe
Didn't even drop him though 😱
@@r3d3y3si - Nature did though!
This is not the first time i have heard the kid punched like a little girl.
Mike Brannon Yeah, but Tommy hit Jacques from behind. So turnabout fairplay.
Good on you and your brother, raymond. Any man who wants to be a bully deserves an ass whooping and I'm glad your brother delivered it.
12:00 you don’t even need a roll of quarters, a bic lighter works really well too, it just reinforces your hand and gives something sturdy to wrap your fist around.
The roll of quarters is obviously preferable, but not many people walk around with a roll of quarters in their pocket in a self defense scenario.
I'm not wishing bad on people. However, I'm a firm believer in one will reap what they sow. Ray here has lived a very full life as you can tell by his physical appearance accompanied by he his later life success. Tom Billington (aka Dynamite Kid) died in a wheelchair defecating on himself in a adult diaper in a small flat in England begging people for money via his gofundme facebook account.
great shoot
Raymond is very articulate and intelligent . Great story !!