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Jim Cornette Reviews Dark Side Of The Ring's Dynamite Kid Episode
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 มิ.ย. 2021
- From Episode 385 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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Mick Foley was arguably the best part of the episode. His commentary about how wrestlers go beyond their limits to prove how tough they are was amazing.
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I will always respect what Dynamite has done in the ring. But, many people have witnessed him burning Matilda with cigarettes. Anyone who would hurt defenseless animals, well, I just cannot feel sorry for.
Jabbed her and Damien (Jake's snake) with steroids) for a laugh too. A lot of fucked up shit with that man unfortunately
Didnt he even inject steroids into a freaking kid at one point?
@@chainsoar i think that's the best way to put it , Dynamite kid should be remembered as one of the best wrestlers of all time but,Tom Billington was far from being of the best human beings in wrestling
He was a piece of garbage. Jacques Rougeau knocking his teeth out with the brass knuckles backstage is the best thing ever.
Dyno admitted in a video that because his niece wasnt injured enough to get an insurance check after a car accident he and his brother held her down while Dyno smashed her leg with a hammer.
Anytime Jim says “and here’s the thing”…….it’s going to be one hell of an explanation!!
here is the Thing ; or pump the brakes slow down Cowboy.
Yes Indeedy lol
He has to sigh before he say it
@@salvadordeleon273 ALWAYS!😂😂
Absolutely
From Wrestlemania to wheelchair-bound living on a council estate in Greater Manchester is one hell of a long way to fall....
Rightfully so, whoever bullies people, hits women and whatnot, deserves all of that, despite his talents, maybe not land in a wheelchair, I don’t wish that on anyone, but he definitely deserved to be miserable.
@@Ghost-Face420 right? Penile leprosy would've been too kind.
Karma got him 100% !!! There was a story floating around that JR Foleys family was in a car accident and that Dynamite broke her legs so that JR could collect insurance money …… so maybe that’s the wheel chair
@@davidnair5470allegedly Tom confirmed that story with his niece and a hammer it's on at least one dvd
That Corny shirt looks like an old New Jack shirt he'd wear to the ring
I was reminded of how Scorpio wore shredded shirts when he was in the J.O.B. Squad.
It’s crazy how New Jack passed and it’s like people have already forgotten
@@nostalgiaman6816 Let's keep it real.. A lot of people were Afraid of that man.. but it's the way of the world though.. Once you dead most people except Family members forget about you..
Cornjack
The similarities between Dynamite Kid and Benoit is uncanny. The way they were built, the way they moved and wrestled. You would think they were blood relatives. Then the tragic turn their lives took at the end. Luckily for Dynamite's family he walked away from them before it was too late.
They even broke out of Stampede...
At least with Benoit he was one of the most respected people in the business before he committed those terrible acts. Dynamite Kid was always an asshole.
Benoit always idolized Dynamite Kid. I guess he idolized him too much. Or maybe not enough. I remember after Benoit came back from his 2001 neck injury, Dynamite Kid contacted him and told him to stop doing the diving headbutt. Sadly, Benoit didn't listen.
Benoit the personality was nothing like Tom Billington the person. Tom Billington was an a-hole. Think of if Austin Aries was jacked up on steroids in 2015, how bigger a prick Austin would have been. Benoit the person was a likeable guy until C.T.E. took his life
They both took ridiculous amounts of steroids to make up for their smaller stature, even considered a lot by wrestler standards.
That along with their stiff and risk taking style taking concussions regularly turned their brains to mush.
Why is destroying someones property considered "a rib" or joke. It's not.
Meant to be a joke, not usually taken as one by the sounds of the stories lol!
If you quickly replace it with an exact replica or something meant to be better, it can still be a joke so long as the item is purely used for function and has no sentimental value and or something else of value stored in it.
Basically, one has to be careful if one is going to be destructive, but if you're a coked up carny who gets dropped on his head for a living you probably weren't thinking about being careful.
Id be pissed especially those tights. Getting sparkly shit like that made probably runs up $100 + bill for each outfit.
'Coked up carny' 😂@@insupportofjunhado
Back in the 80s... Practical jokes in that kind of small community with very little oversight could get nasty especially when they were delivered as punishment for bad behaviour in the ring like stuffing people or bullshit pulled on tour. Especially when they had lots of money, lots of booze and little supervision.
It's the same as NFL or other professional sports team stories
It's why things like Wrestlers Court came in to control some of the worst shit but be that safety valve.
Kinda surprised to hear Jimmy say Dan Spivey looks 85-years-old, he looks in better shape today than he did decades ago lol.
Spivey looks exactly like LEE MAJORS with out hair...(the guy who played the six million dollar man on tv in the 70's)
@@dwade6322 you're right. I agree with the first comment too, he's in great shape now vs his body during his wwf run. I bet he's on a bunch of test and possibly hgh. The test especially can affect your skin and age your face. He looks like lee majors but bald, juiced out and red as hell.
Also to be fair, Spivey is 68 years old. Most people are gonna look pretty old when they hit around 70 no matter what
Yeah I gather that Jim doesn't like Spivey much.
Right?! He was scary looking!
Bit of a dick move on Hennig's part to escalate the beef like that lol.
Scumbag move, people that do that also do a lot worse in my experience.
Perfect Timing
It always seems that he doesn't get any bad press for his ribs, as if his charm got him off the hook.
@@spannerintheworks1190 They just play it off as it being the norm back then. That’s why he gets off the hook
@@TomClacy5871 It was the norm back then. Even guys like Andre the Giant would get in on the pranks.
The word for Mafia in Canada is "Mafia" .
from what i've heard its called the montreal police department
At this point the Canadian Mafia probably has more influence than the US mob. There’s a lot of areas around here where they’ve still got a pretty tight grip on illegal drug market and the rackets.
In Quebec, the Italian Mafia isn't king of organized crime, it's the biker gangs.
i saw him wrestle in leicester england in the mid seventies his speed and timing were fantastic ,
He came here to Leicester? Damn
@@ballisticbanana1481He was wrestling in the UK in the World Of Sports promotion. He started in the UK. The UK system is a huge part of Dynomites Style
Dynamite kid is a good example of what wrestlers think they look like versus what they actually are. They all managed to get injured at his rate however
LONG LIVE WEED
Rvd is also a good example of that too
@@jasonv6319 rvd was not as problematic as D-Kid at all tho. He just did a ton of weed, and got buried to career death by.....guess whooo?
Yess of course! Triple fucking H.
@@rsk47reviews59 RVD is a legit chill dude.
DSR really glossed over how bad the ribbing had gotten and how much of it was actually Curt Hennig's doing.
Curt Hennig
@@sfpincchicago Thanks for the correction
I’ve always thought giant baba deserves a bunch of admiration and credit because when the territories were dying down he gave a lot of American stars second careers and some could argue a lot of those guys got over bigger in all Japan,,Hell even during the territory days guys like Brody and Hansen got over so big in all Japan they didn’t need the major American companies
Yep. Guys like that could work in Japan for a bunch of tours, make as much money as they would in a territory wrestling full time and have a lot more time at home with their family.
I've read Baba paid well too.
They didnt even mention Dynamite Kid got remarried when he went back to England and was happy. They made it look like he went home and was all alone in a wheel chair
Yeah that was weird. Dynamite got remarried and live happily with his second wife. She was his caretaker and probably the reason Dynamite lived so many years.
I think part two comes out this Thursday.
@@dang2320 nope.
It's possible his 2nd family didnt want to be involved and that's why they weren't mentioned.
It's also true that these eps often are as much about the effects on the family as it is about the wrestler himself. This episode was also telling the story of Dynamite Kids first family and the effects of the mans abuse and "dark side" on them. One could argue his content final chapter with this new family in England simply wasn't pertinent to tell the story of how dark and damaging Kids life/choices were on those around him.
It’s too bad the Producers of Dark Side of The Ring didn’t talk to Tom Billington’s Family in England for the episode on Dynamite Kid. They knew Tom best after he was back home in the United Kingdom.
Probably due to the pandemic
Yeah id be curious to hear from them. Be interested in whether he ever discussed or showed a regret for his previous family/life prior or if it was something he just cut out of his mind entirely for the most part.
Yeah it seems like that would be mandatory for a Doc, but who knows.
@@roggie839 They could have a Zoom interview with them
You'd have to imagine they tried, given all the other interviews they've done in the series.
Honestly, I really respect what Jaques Rougeau did, showed that he's not someone to be fucked with and I like that
I hated this aspect of the doc. I suppose it could all be legit, but it sounded to me like everybody has played that up to be a bigger deal then it was. Dynamite Kid tried to bully Rougeau, Rougeau decks him for it....the end. Apaprently being sucker punched in the face was just TOO much for him? Changed his outlook after that, crushed him emotionally? Give me a break. Not believable. Also annoying hearing his friends phrase it that Kid was never able to get his revenge....like what the fuck? Revenge for what, he deserved a knock to the mouth....that itself was revenge for his own misdeeds
It takes balls to admit that he was afraid of Dynamite. Especially for a wrestler from that generation.
@@jackburton2680 i believe it. Dynamite seems like a bully who's soft in the head, big muscles and a tiny schlong. When someone whips the bully it ruins them.
I'm glad Corny brought up the point that Uncle Dave never looks at the camera. Just paces the floor with his eyes.
As someone on the spectrum, it's super clear to me Meltzer not looking at the camera and his eyes darting around is due to autism. They'd say he has Asperger's, if that were still in the DSM.
When Jim said that Nash took two steps in the ring in his quad snapped I couldn't stop laughing for about 5 minutes straight . I guess it was how he said it and remembering it all at the same time , but I was on the floor .
Wait til you tear a quad. You'll really be on the floor then, probably wouldn't be so funny anymore lol.
@@MrFoxxx47 Probably not, but a tear like Nash's, or McMahon's for that matter, is fairly rare outside of anabolic abuse. So avoid drugs(or find better drugs) and chances are it won't happen. There's a reason no one mocks, say, Shawn Michaels's knee injury or Hulk Hogan's broken leg.
When Cornette was mentioning how just taking a move properly can still be the "last straw" to cause a severe injury, I was hoping he'd mention Tyson Kidd getting injured from Samoa Joe's Muscle Buster.
Loved the British Bulldogs, they we're my favorite Tag Team in the 80's. The hybrid style of Dynamite Kid (Speed) & Davey Boy Smith (Power). Shame they only got one run with the belts.
I was hoping they'd regain the tag titles at Wrestlemania III but because of Dynamite's injury it got turned into a meaningless 6-man tag match.
Same. My Dream 80's tag match The British Bulldogs Vs The Road Warriors........R.I.P Champs!
Tom broke his back. Or they'd still be champions today
@@WZ912 All four are dead now. What a pity.
When it comes to wrestling story-telling, there are none better than Jim and Brian. I can listen to these over and over and over again and then never get old.
Dan spivey looked like they took Freddie Krueger's hat and put a nice shirt on him for TV
Kinda sounded like him too lol
Damn
The story of Tom is a very sad one and as old as the hills. Mick Foley's take at the end is the best, I think.
People are complex, Tom was a man who was thrust into greatness by his talent but in pursuit of this he pushed his self out of balance. He focused so much on career, he forgot you need to work on yourself, forgot why he was here and his demons devoured him.
It's why humans developed religion, the point isn't about supernatural beings, it's about an off rhe shelf framework around which to build your life. I wonder what would have happened had he found a way to control them: like Diamond has with his yoga or a devout Catholic like Rey Mysterio?
I was hoping that they would have interviewed Tiger Mask.
Is he not dead?
They wanted to, but couldn't. Apparently, he wasn't in good health.
@@basedelon no
@@basedelon No he's still alive, He's 63
@@basedelon nope, he was still wrestling ubtil not too long ago
Dino Bravo's uncle Vic "The Egg" was the godfather of the montreal crime family who himself had direct connections too some truly terrifying people in NYC including the boss of the Bonanno Family.
So the mere act of even mentioning the mafia would've been something genuinely terrifying to almost anyone.
Any mob guy would tell you the Montreal guys weren’t a family therefore there was no godfather…they were a glorified crew nothing more…read any certified gangsters books and they all say the same thing..it’s one place FBI Intel was completely wrong. I trust the gangsters who lived it. But they were a bad ass crew so at least there is that
@@Justindedwards215 That may have been the case in the Catroni days, but with the Rizzuto’s in charge it seems things were quite different, they may not have been seen as a “family” down in New York but in Montreal and parts of Ontario they were likely just as powerful. Look what happened to Sal “the iron worker” Montangna when he tried to muscle in there after getting deported from the U.S.
@@Justindedwards215 the New York guys had a lot of respect for the Montreal guys. The rizzuto's were technically part of the Bonano family. They were very tight with Joe Massino
No denying they were badasses here or very respected just not a family is all I'm saying...IE there leader was a capo regime as opposed to a capo di tutti capi...therefore just a crew...a very powerful crew tho there is no denying
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Today the catroni's are basically a nonentity as evidenced by the "war" that happened within the family a couple years ago in which a grand total of 3 people were killed but 50 years ago they were considered to be the second most powerful crime family in canada because they controlled the flow of heroin through the port in montreal to nyc..
Back then the only canadian don who was more powerful than him was John "Johnny Pops" Papalia in Toronto becuase he controlled the flow of drugs into western canada via the Hell's Angels and various chinese gangs.
World of Sport wrestling was huge here in England in the 1970’s and 1980’s. I used to watch it with my Nan on a Saturday afternoon. We couldn’t believe it when it was taken off the air in 1988.
Same. Mixed in with football, rugby, horse racing, and all that, made it seem more legit, too.
@@thelastmotel agreed. Presented by Dickie Davies, it's a programme that is a reminder of the years I was growing up. I started watching football in 1983, and although I prefer most things in life nowadays, football is one thing that I would love to go back to as it was in the 1980's.
I liked the episode, but I was disappointed that they didn't mention this violent story. Where he was doing a favor for a friend after Dynamite's friend were recovering from a car accident, and his the friend's daughter wasn't hurt. He looked to Dynamite for help in gaining insurance money, he took a hammer and broke the girl's legs. This wasn't made up, Dynamite admitted himself and it wasn't included in the documentary. They also left out where he would walk around with a shotgun and would point the gun to his gun and say "one day this will be loaded."
He was a major influence in the wrestling business, but his violent behavior will forever cast a giant cloud on his career. It's like the Benoit story, you can't separate the wrestler from the actual person. It's impossible.
And Nancy Benoit also is erased
Wtf? Is that a true story?
@@thompsonhunter6476 YES!!!!! He flat out admitted himself for a Dynamite Kid documentary a few years ago that was never released before he died. This is the kind of stuff that cannot be ignored.
@@meharinationsportspodcast2582 no it's not true, the documentary is called matter of pride and it's really just a shoot interview but that isn't true or based on anything other than a job guy in stampede that didn't like him
@@jamessiddy1231 I knew I would get someone who will say that never happened. Guess what, it did happen. And to really enforce the trade on you and all the others. Here's the uncut version of events on Dynamite's most violent story. This is from Wrestling with Sin: 192.
"Long before his WWF days, The Dynamite Kid was managed by a former wrestler turned manager named John ‘Jr’ Foley in Stampede Wrestling. From several accounts, Foley was a raging alcoholic who caused nothing but headaches for Stampede’s owner Stu Hart. Despite his addiction to alcohol, a young Dynamite Kid admired and looked up to his manager. During this period of time, JR Foley’s daughter was involved in a car accident.
JR Foley was looking to claim a large amount of money from the insurance company (roughly $20,000) but Foley felt that his daughter wasn’t hurt bad enough. That is when Foley allegedly approached his wrestling protege and asked for his help. He offered to pay Dynamite Kid to break both of his daughter’s legs. Dynamite Kid agreed and Foley drove his daughter to Kid’s home, where the deed was done.
Dynamite broke both of her legs from the kneecaps down. Foley would collect the insurance money in the scam but his daughter apparently never fully recovered from her broken legs and permanently walked with a limp."
Plus, he admitted himself, so don't try disputing something that he already confessed in doing.
I wish this season the episodes had been longer. It seems like most of person centric episodes this season have left more information out there that would've added to the story. Maybe it was cut on the floor and we see in Confidential.
The 2 hour biographies have made the one hour Dark sides seem more rushed than earlier episodes
Agree 100%. They feel very rushed.
No idea as to why pillman got two episodes.
Sometime around the late 70s or early 80s, my mother and father lived next door to Ken Wayne. They were friendly with him and he introduced them to many wrestlers, including Dynamite, around that time. They hung out with him once or twice, and they said he was always very nice and fun to be around when they met him. My mother was very surprised about many of the stories that have come out about him.
Drugs & brain injury I'm afraid.
Even on the Dark Side programme, his first wife said that he was a nice bloke when they first met and still was until the steroids, other drugs and alcohol took over his life and turned him into someone who would explode at the slightest thing and someone that people didn't want to be around.
27:46 yes Brian it's sad that Dynamite couldn't even move but when Sayama-San put on his Tiger Mask, for a brief moment, the old Dynamite came alive for just a moment when he saw his old nemesis. You could see it in Dynamite's eyes when Sayama told him...."wake up Tommy....let's get fighting Tommy." It was a great little moment between two very special athletes.
Let's fighting loooove
@@kidneystonermusic 😂😂😂
Best Dark Side of the Ring of the season for me. A true wrestling legend with a real darkside and with a great cast to enlighten us. Always love some Jacques Rougeau tall tales.
Yes Mr. Rougeau he had me very intrigued with his storytelling it was definitely a great episode.
I loved his story about how he invented a "fictive" mobster to protect himself.
I loved his story about how he invented a "fictive" mobster to protect himself.
I loved his story about how he invented a "fictive" mobster to protect himself.
I loved his story about how he invented a "fictive" mobster to protect himself.
If dark side of the ring ever wanted to branch out, dark side of octogon would probably be a great idea. Much like in wrestling, there so many stories of drugs, serial killing, mysterious deaths, corruption, and downgalls in MMA. It would be so much better than the NFL one. An example of a season could be
E1&2: Kimbo Slice
E3 Joe Son-serial killer
E4 War Machine
E5 The 2014 in ring death of a South African fighter
E6 The Strikeforce Nashville Brawl/Jason Mayham Miller
E7 Mark Kerr's rise and fall
E8 The murder of former UFC heavyweight title challenger Justin Eilers.
E9 Chris Leben's rise, fall, and Rise
E10 Death of Evan Tanner
Fail blog. Not everyone is a documentary director.
Yeah this would be dope
Joe Son wasn't a serial killer, he was only convicted of killing one person, who was a fellow inmate. That being said, the other things he did are beyond twisted.
E1 - Tito Ortiz and Jenna Jameson
E2 - Evan Tanner
E3 - Ricco Rodriguez
E4 - Babalu Sobral
E5 - Lee Murry
E6 - Conor McGregor vs Khabib
They can't even do wrestling correctly. Why would they branch out?
Tom Billington is definitely one of the best performers ever whose backstage antics, unfortunately, hurt his wrestling legacy. Rest In Peace
He’s stone dead. What else would he do?
he was the protagonist in a video game called Mat Mania.
They didn’t really mention the fallout between Davey and him did they?
Nope.
That saddest thing about Davey was that Dynamite Kid led him around in the 1980s, Bret led him around in the early to mid 1990s, then The Family led him around in the late 1990s. He never really got to choose to do what he wanted to do with his own career, everybody else was in his ear influencing him.
These DsotR episodes should be at least half an hour longer. A lot of stuff get cut out with its 40 minute runtime
@@TomClacy5871 They should eventually go back and make director's cuts of these for blu ray.
@@TomClacy5871 They do show deleted scenes during commercial breaks in reruns often.
He was an utter pos out of the ring.. An amazing talent in it..
Lmao, so his kids and ex-wife have forgiven him, he's apologized to his kids, but some loser who didn't know him still carries a grudge? 😂
I don't think that CTE or roids had anything to do with him becoming a sadistic monster, that side of him was always there he was just really good at hiding it from others until he was overtaken by bitterness vindictiveness rage and jealousy.
Had he not become a pro wrestler chances are that dynamite kid would've probably ended up being a leg breaker/enforcer for the Kray's in london, they loved using unassuming looking guys like him who didn't fit the "gangster" stereotype to "deal with problems".
They were in jail by the time he was the "kid".
😂
@@chatshitgetbanged.9417
He would've been a young man in the early 70's and "The Firm" was still very much a thing at the time as the Kray's were still very much in charge of the organization from prison.
They were caught in 1985 running a protection and extortion racked from behind bars.
I think someone needs to give the mob movies a rest
@@zakrowe1301
I think that you should do a little reading about the kray's and "the firm" because they were still very much a force through the 70's and into the 80's.
I am so lucky to have grown up in Alberta watching the Harts and Stampede Wrestling.
If you go back and watch the old matches they're better than what WWF was turning out at the time.
speaking of missing a spot, what about kevin dunn and the entire wwe camera crew missing mick foley fly off the cell at king of the ring 98, they knew it was coming and they blew it, if it weren't for replay we would have never seen how incredible the fall was, but kevin dunn never missed kevin nash's hair flip, triple nose's water spit, shawn micheals' strip tease and razor ramon threatening the ring attendant if he lost his fake gold necklaces
Tom Billington could have had a long future in the industry even after he was cripples. Instead he bullied and was a vile bastard around too many for him to become anything but disregarded slag on the scrapheap as a bitter old man. I feel sorry for his son, seems a decent kid from what I've seen.
The bump that messed Dynamite's back up was in 83-84 Japan with Davey boy. Davey did the suplex out of the ring spot and Dynamite hit the corner of the apron on the way down. His back always bothered him after that.
He had several spots like that, and much worse than that. It wasn't any one thing.
Amazing wrestler, terrible human being. I share a lot of Jim's frustration with modern wrestling, but I am glad the business has largely progressed beyond tolerating people like this in the locker room.
And in wider society
Pansies
@@marcusstanley96 dynamite broke a girl's leg to get his friend insurance money he was a piece of shit
I agree. It seems that they have a better work environment today. Stuff that shawn michaels used to do in the 90s wouldn't fly today.
@@marcusstanley96 If being a sane, decent human being makes one a pansy, I'm happy to be a pansy.
Saw a match of his from AJPW in July of 93... he was still in good shape just much smaller... and then to see him in 96, it was incredibly bad
When his wife said he didn't deserve to loose teeth, if I where hurt like that, teeth wouldn't be the only thing he lost.
You wouldn't do a damn thing.
@@Rjensen2 no, YOU wouldnt. Dynamite was worthless and now he's in hell.
@@Mr.Classic91 lmao, another moron that believes in that nonsense. 🤣🤣🤣
You can have a match full of highspots if you occasionally slow things down and actually sell the bumps.
That is stupid
This should have been a longer episode or a two part episode, it all just went too fast.
I think the back injury was kick-started long before WM2. Don't forget that he clipped his lower back in a botched over the rope suplex spot with Davey Boy in 1984, the very night he won the WWF Junior Heavyweight belt in absolute agony. And in those days, you either worked through it all or you fix it and not make money
I think that's why his style slowly started to change and why he somewhat slowed down in the ring. Bret wrote in his book that prior to that night in Hamilton he'd watch Dynamite washing down Percocets like they were candy. He'd been running on borrowed time since '84.
RIP Matilda!
Amen!👍
What about Winston?!
This is a much better review than Hannibal's one yesterday, he was getting all the facts wrong (said Dynamite's wife was stu harts daughter), and just really wanted to go on about the Jacque story over and over. So much info in this shorter review.
The Dynamite Kid/Tiger Mask matches are a must-watch for wrestling fans.
Or any sports fan. It's never been bested
Some of the best matches of all time as far as I'm concerned. I wish today's wrestlers would watch em and take notes.
"Harder than Chinese Arithmetic" is One of My Personal, All-Time Favorite Cornyisms
What about the story were he slapped the honky tonk man and made him cry? What a piece of crap this guy was, if I was Jacque I would of punched him again when he was in his wheelchair years later.
Yep, me too, buddy
Dynamite slapped him because Honkey Tonk made a joke about Harley Race "having no guts" after he had emergency surgery to remove several feet of his intestines.
It was one of the only noble things Dynamite ever did. Honkey Tonk is a piece of shit and deserved more than a slap.
@@jakefoley9539 damn , I heard on a shoot honky denied being slapped or crying lol
@@jakefoley9539 Honky made a joke big deal..... truly one of the nicest guys I've ever met in 25 years of wrestling... most of the boys will tell you the same thing!
@@jakefoley9539 for all of DK's flaws, one thing for certain was that he'd take a bullet for those close to him, Harley being like a brother to him.
Probably best episode of season 3 so far. Sad and depressing to see what happened to him but at least he left his family, instead of killing them.
The Brian Pillman episodes were better.
@ShadowAngel how much darker is it ? Lol
@ShadowAngel what dark stuff?
@@robertstraw9881
I totally forgot about Pillman, this season has been pretty meh. Not looking forward to the roid trial or plane ride from hell episodes.
@@MooncricketsInc the one about North Korea was awful. All that happened was that they got pushed around by the military, couldn’t go out anywhere, someone looked at Bischoff funny, Scorpio had a fight and the people who turned up had no idea what was happening.
The ultimate warrior episode was poor too. The guy was a talentless douche with delusions of grandeur.
" He's a British kid from England "
They should have made the doc about the tag team itself as they both had a turbulent lifestyle
Pulls gun on wife, in front of kids - "can you imagine what he must have been going through"
🤣 gtfo
His wife must been a real bad a** . A professional wrestler has pull a gun on his wife. No that really messed up he did that.
@@wv171 Shes a badass if she really stood there with the gun at her head and told him to fuck off.
I remember (as a kid) when the Bulldogs lost to the Hart Foundation - I was so angry and upset - why did those a-holes get the belts.
Now knowing their real history - I'm glad the Bulldogs dropped the title to a team they felt worthy of being their successor.
Dynamites real surname was Billington. His family were the royal executioners for generations. They were also jailers, and all notorious for being vicious and cruel.
Jolly good
that is sooooooo cool!
Practitioners of the art of delivering flying head-butts don't tend to live very long.
Bam bam, Benoit, dynamite.
Bryan Danielson needs to be careful
I cringed when Christian Cage did it on dynamite, guys had concussion issues you’d think he’d know better
I thought WWE banned it.
Harley Race said he was sorry he ever came up with it and popularised it, a couple of years before his death.
@henrygvidonas9573 I remember that. He aparrently warned Chris Benoit off that move on multiple occasions.
Obviously Benoit didn't listen.
We used to watch the Dynamite Kid on Portland Wrestling with a young Curt Hennig. He was the favorite among most of the kids at school.
Dynamite went to work in Portland mainly because of visa issues that he had in Canada. Stampede and Portland Wrestling had that arrangement for a bunch of guys...
Jaques Rougeau would have been the only guy I'd felt comfortable hanging around with during that era.
His brother Raymond is said to be a very nice guy too and ,legit tough . He was a boxer in his youth and even Bret Hart said Raymond vs Dynamite would've been a hell of a fight
@@blacksabbathfan8067 Yeah I've just watched Ray's shoot interview on Hannibal TV and he seems like a great guy.
@Kwame brown and Jim cornette burner account I'm half french so that wouldnt be the problem.
@@Baastilein31 Yeah , the funny thing is this wasn't even started by Dynamite, let alone Jaques or Raymond, it was Mr perfect!!!!!! Most people say he was a nice dude but,his ribbs really got out of control at times
@@blacksabbathfan8067 yep but poor dynamite gets blamed for it not Jennings which is not fair
The thing with dynamite and the Mountie is that they looked up highly to Bennington so when henning did that prank dynamite would believe henning 100 percent ever liked henning liked his theme but not him
With the explanation of "screwjob", I realize it's pretty much similar to how "pipebomb" became a thing.
I remember when thr British Bulldogs first came to WWF. I always thought Dynamite Kid was different from other guys. The speed and precision he had.
I loved that snap suplex, and his clothesline was vicious.
For some reason, the segueway into the earbuds ad is fuckin hilarious!!🤣🤣
The ol Stampede Wresting days were the absolute best . As a kid growing up in Calgary we got to see so many of the greats cuttin their teeth . Ed Whalen complimented the show quite nicely as well , his back and forth with JR Foley and other heels was Oscar worthy for a young Dover Boy !!!
Lol... the Karachi Vice!
The transition to your ads is both the best and the worst! LoL
Crockett ran the roll of quarters as an angle- Dusty lost the TV Title to Tully in a First Blood match thanks to a roll of quarters while the ref was selling a bump. He woke up and Dusty was busted open.
That was a few years before, and it had been done hundreds of times before that.
Dynamite is my favorite of all time. In his own opinion, what he believed was the moment that injured him the worst , paving the way for his ultimate disintegration physically, was the night he won the NJPW Jr. Heavyweight title. That night he had to wrestle multiple times. BEFORE he wrestled Cobra (George takano) he had to wrestle Davey Boy. Dynamite spilt over the top rope and his the small of his back on the apron, basically the same thing almost exactly, as the Shawn Michael's casket match bump/injury that Shawn said ended his career for 4 years. Dynamite somehow finished the match (like Shawn did) and then had to wrestle again.
It used to be easy to find the clip on TH-cam but I think it's long gone now. The clip of him collapsing after hitting the ropes at a WWF house show isn't the injury moment it's when the floodgates finally gave out
I think it was called the Montreal Screw job because Vince said " Bret screwed Bret" a week or so after the PPV
It''s hilarious Bret is still so bent about a pretend fight that didn't get scripted the way he wanted.
With the whole Hennig, Dynamite, and Jacques deal, the way I had heard it was the Bulldogs (specifically Dynamite) did not like the Rougeaus, Hennig pranked Jacques making him think that Dynamite fucked with his stuff, Jacques said that he was going to say something to Vince about the situation, Hennig "stooged" on Jacques, telling Dynamite that Jacques was going to rat him out for something Dynamite didn't do, and Dynamite took offense to the fact that Jacques was going to eventually say something to Vince because of it.
man, that is really sad, because you could tell that Jacques idolized Dynamite Kid as a performer. What could have been a great, profitable experience ended in a downward spiral for pretty much everybody involved.
Next to the Pillman and Grizzly Smith episodes, this was another favorite of mine so far this season.
Dynamite Kid & Rick Rude were Randy Savage's de facto bodyguard when they went into NWA territory when Savage was Champion in 1988.
According to Camel Clutch Blog, when Jacques Rougeau knocked out Dynamite Kid's teeth, Vince paid $1800 for the dental work. Jacques felt bad later on paid Dynamite $1800, which Dynamite pocketed.
Really? I have watched both Jacques and Raymond tell the story several times ( to different interviewers) but I have never heard that Jacques did give Dynamite money. Interesting, Thanks for the info.
It wasn't "NWA Territory", it was Philadelphia, where they would both be in Philly the same night.
Wish they used Lance more
His last run in Japan was very sad. He didn't look clean off roids, he looked emaciated.
People dont really understand steroids. Yes they do make you bigger but the military invented them for recovery purposes. Dudes body was completely shutting down and needed steroids just to keep everything held together. Super sad to watch someone spiral from the top to the bottom. Being an Englishman myself him and bull dog were awesome. Wrestlers do so much for their sport and often get so little in return.
Sorry to say that but after all the sadistic shit hes done to other people, animals and even children I felt satisfaction seeing him in that condition.
I remember in his book that he once injected himself with horse steroids when he ran out of regular steroids. He almost killed himself.
@Kwame brown and Jim cornette burner account According to Roddy Piper and Jake Roberts, Dynamite and Davey Boy injected steroids into a disabled kid.
His back was basically being held together by duck tape at that point
First met Shawn when he just got back from Japan, maybe aged 17 or 19 at the oldest. at George's bar in Fridley Mn. He ended up marrying a girl I graduated with named Terri. That kid flew off the top roops, into the crowds, in a frikkin bar. insane.
Poor Dan Spivey. I knew Jim wouldn’t forget him - lol.
Does Jim not like him?
@@robertstraw9881 - Jim has gone off on him before for being a mediocre worker with no physique and overestimating his value as a wrestler.
Weird thing is, Spivey looks better now than he did in his wrestling days and Jimmy still said he looked old lmao
@@MrFoxxx47 definitely looked tougher bald than with the long blond hair. In real life though he was a guy you didn’t mess with. Adrian Adonis got his ass kicked by him in a locker room fight.
@@MrFoxxx47 He looked like someone who worked on the roof in Chernobyl.
If a promoter could have A few Dynamites , Tiger Masks , Bryan Danielsons , WALTERS and Samoa Joes you could make wrestling halfass believable again !!!
@ShadowAngel Daniel Bryan never drew ? Anyways i meant that type of more believable style . Who DOES actually DRAW today ? name 3 lol ! I wish things could go back in time . But it cant .Im just saying that would be an entertaining roster to watch . Sure , throw Flair at his peak too ! Im just saying
The back injury was probably a combination of bumps. He took an awkward apron bump against Davey in Japan and had ice on it laid on the floor until his next match, he never got surgery at the time and it never healed properly so combine that with wrestling how he did and it was always going to go on him. Also came back too soon from surgery which is what ultimately ended his career because of nerve damage. Began a little while after coming back to WWF, he had a seizure while travelling with Warrior who befriended the Bulldogs and even after WWF he wrestled in Stampede, Japan and other places.
The main reason he carried on was because he was broke, he left his wife and kids and went back to England leaving them everything, his house, car, all his possessions and started over. Can say what you want about his backstage antics but his kids had a good life and never went hungry, he had to keep working to live in England until he ended up in a wheelchair. It was harder for him because Davey Boy's wife copyrighted the British Bulldog name and threatened to sue him for using it on shows, he was only a name in Japan without that really. People think the main reason they fell out was Davey went back to Vince but it was because after he did they stopped Dynamite using the name and shat on everything he did for Davey. I don't like Bret's ego at times but he at least always gave Dynamite his due and never forgot what he did for him.
It's just a sad story to me of a guy who could have been so much more to the business or had a good life if he got out earlier when he first had back surgery. Instead he stuck around in pain and miserable so buried himself in drink and drugs. The most influential wrestler of all time and he had a shitty existence struggling to make ends meet while working in pain. People like to paint him as the bad guy in everything but the Rougeaus were not great people either, the guy laughing about threatening Dynamite's wife and kids was gross even if he says it was a joke, they definitely know more about Dino than they say too, their dad was into some dodgy stuff. That's the only reason Dynamite and Vince believed they could do something bad and it's why Vince had them shake hands and Dynamite agreed. The guy laughs at that, it's pathetic.
I remember Mitch Snow from 80s AWA days.
True to his tag team name, I always thought of Dynamite Kid as a rabid dog who had some sense of reason. And every time he did talk in the past, he fully accepted his condition of being stuck in a wheelchair. But I guess he had his one wish come true, that future Generations will at least be able to remember him through his ring work.
I remember the headbutt spot from WM2, that always looked crazy.
Kid and Davey got trained down the road from me, by Ted Betley, I drive by the building regularly.
I Always Thought that Davey Boy's Car Accident with Chris Benoit & Jason the Terrible Was the Reason Stampede Nipped the Davey Boy VS. Dynamite Feud in the Proverbial Bud
Jim is really one of the true wisemen of wrestling. He knows so much stuff.
Would love to spend a day or three talking to the man.
Great show again
Was depressing af
Okay, so the incident with the clothes being ripped up aka the "fistful of quarters" story is partially true. So here it is -
Curt Hennig was the one who cut the clothes as it was a rib, but he decided instead of gaining ire with the Rougeou brothers, he passed it onto Dynamite. Dynamite then proceeded to enter the heel locker room (even though the bulldogs were babyfaces) and slapped Jacques across the head whilst he's playing cards with someone (I think it was "The Rock" Don Muraco), it would go on for weeks with the Rougeou brothers just ignoring it, getting changed quicker and leaving the arena to drive to the next one or fly to the next one.
On one flight, Dynamite thought it would be funny to tell a stewardess/steward that Raymond was leaving the WWF and he was going to go into a career in boxing. This increased the anger that Ray and Jacques had against Dynamite, and Dynamite would walk in with his kliq so to speak - Bad News Brown, Neidhart, Davey Boy, Bret and someone else and started to try and put Raymond in his place (which they didn't) because of his knee injury at the time and it finally broke down when Dynamite and the others walked out of the heel locker room with Raymond teaching Jacques how to box and that their father reminded him of something that was the roll of quarters tight in the fist and it'll make it look even more worse and hurt more than a normal punch. All the while, Bad News was telling Dynamite that he's got a receipt coming which Dynamite cockily shrugged off and said "Nah, they're too old to do something like that, they're chickenshits!" (or something like that most likely with Dynamite being Dynamite Kid), both Rougeou brothers plotted and plotted and it came down to the day of the fight, they sat on the ring apron talking about it as Vince came down and wanted to know what was going on.
As Dynamite and his guys walked into the area where Jacques was, Pat Patterson came in and almost tried to stop it but Raymond held him against the wall and told him to butt out of their business and witnessed Dynamite's teeth getting knocked out by the fistful of quarters. That was when Patterson took the brothers to Vince (Who was with Hogan at the time talking about matches) and Vince's own words were "...Aw shit!" when he saw the blooded fist of Jacques. Dynamite was rushed to hospital, no broken bones or anything, just teeth knocked out and Vince said that Jacques was to pay the cost of the dental work (which is what Dynamite said) and Vince just shrugged and said "I'll pay, I'll just tell a lie and say it was you who paid the fees!".
Eventually Vince got all four in and after the argument, Vince turned to them and just said plain and simple - "That is enough, I will not have anything like this again!" as Dynamite interjected and said "I'm gonna use a baseball bat and smash his brothers knee in!" and Vince who was white hot pissed at the time, turned to Dynamite and just said "Okay, so tell me how that's gonna solve any issues you two have!? You're gonna smash his knee in with a baseball bat. He'll come back and break some of your bones...then you'll stab him when he's not looking...then he'll order a hit on you for that!" Vince made them both shake hands with the proviso that IF any altercation came about whether it was Dynamite who started it or it was Jacques who started it, both teams would be fired on the spot (He only said that to make Dynamite realise that IF he fucked up again, that was it, he'd have no more job with the WWF), so around Survivor Series came, the Rougeou brothers were elimintated first by the Bulldogs and the Bulldogs quit with Davey Boy coming back in around '91 for a singles run as just "The British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith and would go on to have that main event spot at Summerslam '92 in Wembley Stadium for the IC title against Bret Hart.
U know a lot for a video game girl, no offense. I'm an '82 baby, heard of dynamite, never saw him or his work til darkside. When I got wind of Davey boy, he was already a single.
@@nohatersallowd5709 A lot of what he said was nonsense.
Vince handled it well.
In Canada, we call the Mafia..... The Mafia. Or if you want to technical since it's the the real name, Cosa Nostra.
The mob in Canada are called the Syndicates.
Please, thank Jim for sharing his knowledge with us!!!!!!!
Lance Storm never met Tom Billington. He was NOT a tremendous resource. He took space where others better resources could had filled.
Lance Storm is always the voice of reason on these DSOTR episodes, and often times he is the ONLY voice of reason.
Dynamite attacked Jacques because he suspected that he had ratted them out to Vince several times...and the night in question Perfect has said 'he is on the phone again'....but according to Dynamite in a interview he said he 'just gave him a backhand'
Man this is dynamites bullshit excuse, the guy was a bully. It was well known at the time that he was making Joques life a living hell. So much so that his brother (who dynamite wouldn't touch because he would've stood up from himself from day one) offered to help him out, but ultimately he told him that he needs to fight his own battles, if he doesn't take him down he'll be treated like shit by him forever. Then fucking blammo. I personally love that story because joque never claims in his retelling that he's a very tough guy in fact he says the opposite, that dynamite was a psycho and joque knew he'd lose against him, but he didn't have any choice if he was going to survive in the lockeroom. Love it.
@@garyslackjaw Well I never said Dynamites claims were true, it's just what I have heard him say. But in all this I believe MR Perfect is the joker in the middle, I think he played people against each other a lot, at least during this time.
@@Millwall77 I agree with you on that wholeheartedly, Hennig is someone as a wrestling fan you just want to like but it sounds like the dude was a massive shit stirrer.
When WWF started to air in the UK, the British Bulldogs looked like they came from the future compared to what was British wrestling at the time, I'll never forget how intense they seemed.
Ah, the "VHS Machine". AKA the VCR..
Pure Dynamite was one of the best wrestling autobiographies,only one besides Foleys first one I read twice.Also Bret’s was good
Are they ever gonna do the ring boy scandal?
Poor Kevin Nash , his quad jus wanted more time ...
I heard almost all of the texas rings were like hitting cement.
I don't see why they wouldn't soften that shit to prolong the careers of the talent. Wrestling is hard enough on the body as it is
@@tapset i would guess it came down to "do you want to be in this business? Are you tough?" additude that was old school wrestling
@@tapset Also have heard the older wwf rings while not as bad as that, weren't too much better themselves also.
@10:43, I remember seeing that WM2 sacrifice bump as a kid and thinking, damn! My favorite tag team feud at that time.
This one was Chris Benoit caliber depressing. Dynamite Kid was a scumbag, but hearing his familys side of it and especially the wifes desire for the industry to forgive his scumbaggery and honor his body of work, that shit hit hard
Been waiting for this response 🙌
Did DK really potato everyone? Every video he was bashing people