The Perfection of Tomura Shigaraki

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  • @Oceaniz
    @Oceaniz  4 ปีที่แล้ว +922

    (This is the last thumbnail change I SWEAR)
    Timestamps for mobile users!
    00:01 - Monsters
    01:45 - Introduction
    03:56 - Part 1: Shigaraki, the Character
    18:55 - Part 2: Shigaraki, the Narrative Device
    24:40 - Part 3: Shigaraki, the Thematic Element
    38:07 - Conclusion
    Thanks for watching!
    EDIT: Since people keep asking, the song that plays during Part 3's start is Rayquazas Appearance Theme from Pokemon Emerald!

    • @wisdommanari6701
      @wisdommanari6701 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I always said that MHA was more about sociological story telling than typical shonen hero's journey nonsense. Every time a desperate or person disfigured by their quirk is called a villian I cringe a little bit of, but I absolutely love it.

    • @bandam9780
      @bandam9780 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You're a hero

    • @BlackBurrito9073
      @BlackBurrito9073 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hey Oceaniz can you please tell me the name of the song played in the minute 24:40??

    • @axelvaughn9625
      @axelvaughn9625 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This was amazingly well done

    • @papercuts2054
      @papercuts2054 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BlackBurrito9073 Check out the description

  • @evilnet1
    @evilnet1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4682

    The fact Horikoshi also gave a whole arc to the league of villains with the exclusion of Deku while placing Shigaraki as the protagonist of that arc could mean that Shigaraki is equally as important as the main character.

    • @nv5116
      @nv5116 4 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      This is what I assume even back then in s2

    • @meilee7866
      @meilee7866 4 ปีที่แล้ว +192

      what would a hero manga do without a villian

    • @Josh-py9rq
      @Josh-py9rq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Something tells me he may end up becoming good and him and deku have to fight some enemy together you never know lol soo much mystery villains can be changed after all and hero’s corrupted

    • @babypower14
      @babypower14 4 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      he even developed well he went from wanting dabi and toga dead on first meeting...to trusting them entirely

    • @plzleavemealone9660
      @plzleavemealone9660 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Well, the red shoes are there for a reason.

  • @jordanholt9170
    @jordanholt9170 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1650

    Midoriya was created out of the idealism of a superhero society and must constantly face the reality of what a superhuman society brings about.
    Shigaraki was created out of the reality of a superhuman society and must constantly face the ideals imposed on said society.

    • @selfproclaimedphantomlord2352
      @selfproclaimedphantomlord2352 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Wow that's a great line

    • @Trickpants
      @Trickpants 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      This is really underrated, damn

    • @tdog703
      @tdog703 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @Guyn Huỳnh Công Both them will be powerful in there prime they did fight in the war but that was just a test just to bring Afo back but when the real fight starts it will be amazing

    • @rokamayono2312
      @rokamayono2312 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Damn

    • @user-ho4tb5qe7v
      @user-ho4tb5qe7v 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Couldn't it be said that they're the other way around too? that Midoriya was created out of the reality of a superhuman society but that he has decided to help eliviate the unfairness of reality instead?
      While Shigaraki is raised by an idealism of selfishness from AFO who just wants to do what he wants without thinking of people as caricatures

  • @anishparajuli5218
    @anishparajuli5218 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1833

    Shigaraki was abused by his father:- like Todoroki
    His father's disdain for heroes started due to his mother choosing to be a hero basically abandoning him:- Similar to Kota
    He was in a way cursed by a highly strong power in a very young age he accidentally at first used to kill his parent:- Like Eri
    What do these 3 characters have in common? Their POV changed, In a sense they were saved because of a certain green haired OFA user.

    • @kamronspencer4910
      @kamronspencer4910 4 ปีที่แล้ว +445

      And that’s the real difference isn’t it. They were all saved by someone kind who wanted to help them recover from and overcome the tragedies that were twisting them. Shigaraki was “saved” by someone only Interested in using the twisted state shigaraki had reached for his own legacy and purposes.

    • @kbriney1443
      @kbriney1443 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      perhaps Deku saves the day by extending kindness to him

    • @toadlord8594
      @toadlord8594 4 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      K Briney so..... Expert level Talk no Jutsu?

    • @windghost2
      @windghost2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +159

      @@toadlord8594 Yes but Tomura says fuck that because he acknowledges that he could've been saved but now after everything he's done. He doesn't want to be saved by anyone, he wants to change society and make sure no one goes through what he went through.
      I know he doesn't actually want that in the long run but I like thinking that's his end goal.

    • @nionlietz2488
      @nionlietz2488 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      kamron spencer so this proof that AFO is izuku’s father

  • @chrishardin9774
    @chrishardin9774 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4005

    The child who is rejected by his village will find warmth in its embers

    • @anactualguy8257
      @anactualguy8257 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      🙏🏽

    • @viraatsingh1377
      @viraatsingh1377 4 ปีที่แล้ว +164

      Man I see this in almost every video related to joker ...this really tells the resemblance of Tomura with the joker

    • @chrishardin9774
      @chrishardin9774 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Viraat Singh it’s where I got it lol

    • @authorbhattacharjee4957
      @authorbhattacharjee4957 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Very naruto like

    • @toadlord8594
      @toadlord8594 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Like Killmonger was going to do to his true homeland Wakanda only he might come close to succeeding?

  • @Ren_Davis0531
    @Ren_Davis0531 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1285

    One thing that I noticed on my reread of the series is that Tensei tells Iida that people who save a scared child are the most heroic people in the world. Shigaraki was that scared child that nobody saved. Horikoshi was already subtly weaving in Shigaraki’s origin and how it ties into the core of the series.

    • @blank2736
      @blank2736 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Damn did not notice that

    • @yasiegonlastie5483
      @yasiegonlastie5483 3 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      Honestly, Horiksohi is an absoulte genius at hiding these small details and I live for them, he deserves the best and so does his remarkable work

    • @cahadrey
      @cahadrey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      "Shigaraki was that scared child that nobody saved." *Not anymore lol*

    • @LJ-hk4tv
      @LJ-hk4tv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      So if Deku saves Shigaraki...

    • @abby6215
      @abby6215 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😦 OMG so tru

  • @carrier2823
    @carrier2823 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1567

    The league of villains caring about each other is super threatening, because they always have each others backs. The ones who gel the best with their fellow members always cause the most damage. Dabi, who is apathetic to the others usually ends up doing nothing, while twice becomes a force of destruction.

    • @mouses_HK
      @mouses_HK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +201

      imagine when Shigaraki finds out Twice is dead...

    • @zemox2534
      @zemox2534 4 ปีที่แล้ว +208

      @@mouses_HK We already saw what happened when Toga found out. When Tomura finds out, the heroes are going to be screwed.

    • @mouses_HK
      @mouses_HK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +142

      @@zemox2534 Tomura is literally smiling while bodying Endeavor, Deku, bakugou, and Gran torino... He isn't even serious..

    • @GiftOfKnowledge-np9vg
      @GiftOfKnowledge-np9vg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      @@mouses_HK I mean frankly, he's probably able and perfectly willing to revive Twice from the dead. Literally I think he already has the quirks for it: Compress has the perfectly preserved Overhaul elbow to close the wounds, he can borrow Twice's quirk for a blood transfusion like Twice did for Toga, and then they just need that electric guy from Compress' team who Edgeshot stabbed to restart the heart and brain. and if any of those end up not available/working for whatever reason, who knows what other quirks he has at his disposal now?
      So really, it just depends on if anyone recovered the body.
      (For God's sake, somebody have recovered the body. We got like 20 new villain faces this arc that've barely done anything, surely somebody wants to endear themselves to the audience.)

    • @zemox2534
      @zemox2534 4 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      I love to see Twice back, but I just do not seeing it happening. For one thing, it would take away from the emotional impact of his death. Also why would Compress keep the arm of Kai? He would have thrown it away by now.
      If Jin's body is recovered, I see Toga drinking his blood and using his powers to avenge him. That would just make her even more dangerous and it would technically bring Twice back without resurrecting him.

  • @DonniedrakoE
    @DonniedrakoE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2911

    I think one of shiggy’s best traits is how realistic his development is. His motivations have never really changed but his approach has. Which is a very realistic way of showing character growth. The utter simplicity of his goal but the willingness he wants to have to achieve it so interesting that I low key want to see him develop more even if he will he eventually stopped. After all he did something that I feel like a lot people in a post all might society hasn’t done yet: accept reality and get stronger for himself instead of waiting for a savior.

    • @megashark1013
      @megashark1013 4 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      Donniedrako15 E25 It’s the same reason I love Eren Jaeger. His goals and ideology are exactly the same, but his attitude and the way he achieves his goals are completely different to how they once were.

    • @mouses_HK
      @mouses_HK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      I'm just worried about how Shigaraki is going to develop anymore. He already is liberated, he is a calm and powerful leader, he's a badass, and he even forgets about All for one/his family to show he has became his own person. But I wonder how he will get even MORE evil. his goal is coming to be in japan, but where does it go next?

    • @zemox2534
      @zemox2534 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I think he is going to expose the secrets of the heroes society to the public and watch the world turn against the heroes.

    • @mouses_HK
      @mouses_HK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@zemox2534 Well Shiggy wouldn't tell the police, he's just going to destroy everything and rebuild all of it again, the way it SHOULD be. The word "hero" will never be mentioned again, because the villains are not "vilains".. those so called "heroes" birthed them. So calling them Villains is just ironic. I think that's something that Shigaraki hates a lot.

    • @GiftOfKnowledge-np9vg
      @GiftOfKnowledge-np9vg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@mouses_HK There are still plenty of ways his character could go. Perhaps the power will go to his head and his personal development regresses. Perhaps he grows closer with his subordinates, and thus crazier as he loses them. Perhaps he gains the traits Oceaniz mentioned he lacked at 35:23 and turns the PLF into a proper revolutionary group, and he a proper savior. Perhaps he conquerors japan and turns out to be pretty good at it, a very benevolent evil overlord, and the conflict sheds it's black & white basis of "good vs evil" to become a battle of ideologies. Or perhaps he could even zig-zag a bit, becoming a proper leader of a country and bettering it, but then deciding to move onto conquering the entire world that's still on the same BS he conquered japan for, and thus Deku must be the hero to save the world.
      There are plenty of directions his character could go, is what I'm saying. Directions that aren't limited to, but definitely include, becoming even more of an ultimate evil.

  • @lunausagi8495
    @lunausagi8495 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1598

    Another parallel I'd like to bring up is:
    Both Shigaraki and Deku's masters bestowed their quirks to the successor and fought each other with the inferior version of said quirk: The remaining embers of One for All and (as revealed way later in the manga) The Copied version of All for One.

    • @reapermaster1233
      @reapermaster1233 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Actually shiggy has the original

    • @thebitten1
      @thebitten1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +181

      @@reapermaster1233 That's what the comment said

    • @mouses_HK
      @mouses_HK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +143

      the two weakest pillars of the world fought their last time at their weakest, destroyed almost a city just by one weakning another and then one punching. Bruh.

    • @omegademon6285
      @omegademon6285 4 ปีที่แล้ว +159

      Two beaten down symbols fight over the fate of a broken society that birthed them.

    • @mouses_HK
      @mouses_HK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@omegademon6285 damn so much better than my comment lmao.

  • @mouses_HK
    @mouses_HK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2444

    "Because he is free. The world is his playground"... This line gave me CHILLS.

    • @lordwarryl5712
      @lordwarryl5712 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      As a non american, the concept of total freedom is one of my inner fear

    • @Daboy804
      @Daboy804 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Lord Warryl that’s just ridiculous. You say this as if in America “freedom” means you can do whatever you want.

    • @lordwarryl5712
      @lordwarryl5712 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@Daboy804 for what im seeing as of lately, yes

    • @Daboy804
      @Daboy804 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Lord Warryl ok well you go try it. Become the IRL shigaraki. I’ll mail you the new chapters in jail I promise.

    • @lordwarryl5712
      @lordwarryl5712 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Daboy804 cant try it, their is a reason why i cry inside everytime i try the signiture Shigaraki smile is because i am not free, i cant be free and im an adult....

  • @zoadragon3521
    @zoadragon3521 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3878

    Shigaraki is no longer an egg. He is a magnificent Rooster. And his morning caw will awaken the hero society.

    • @Oceaniz
      @Oceaniz  4 ปีที่แล้ว +599

      this is the single best analogy I have seen about this yet lmaooo

    • @anactualguy8257
      @anactualguy8257 4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      PHOENIX MAAAAAAAN🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽

    • @GaryJojo
      @GaryJojo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +275

      He has become the cock

    • @mouses_HK
      @mouses_HK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@GaryJojo LMAO

    • @mishthefish82
      @mishthefish82 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      An add a new Egg to sociality and cracking it foever.

  • @raveelemental4928
    @raveelemental4928 4 ปีที่แล้ว +890

    I finally get it. How his simple wish to destroy is only simple at face value: it derives from Shigaraki's own circumstances, his family, his birth, the entire influence of society weighing on him and ignoring him. "All it takes is one bad day" to create the very destroyer of all that you know.

    • @denzel4341
      @denzel4341 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      actually its his quirk that made him this way even more. imagine if he had nana shimura flying quirk when his incident happened. instead of accidentally killing his dog, he would just fly away from his family. the quirk power is the one who ruined him in the first place, knowing hes a kid and all.

    • @denzel4341
      @denzel4341 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      plus the power of being to be able to destroy someone with a touch would boost your ego like what he has now

    • @kevmartin7589
      @kevmartin7589 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Joker would be proud 🤡

    • @raveelemental4928
      @raveelemental4928 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@denzel4341 it would boost his ego if he didn't kill his entire family with it

    • @dakeouswoods
      @dakeouswoods 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Kyrio Kyrio that’s some what true. But it mostly comes from his family issues and society. Has dad beat him and the world of heroes ignored him. Remember he went full in on his dad knowing full well it would kill him...

  • @treeizure7821
    @treeizure7821 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3760

    Ok but you forget to mention how he’s an epic gamer

    • @UltimaPhoenix-dx3kt
      @UltimaPhoenix-dx3kt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +131

      No, that's Spinner

    • @Daboy804
      @Daboy804 4 ปีที่แล้ว +524

      UltimaPhoenix2405 shigaraki was clearly a gamer early on lol. He called Nomu the final boss and said all might used a cheat code to win

    • @mouses_HK
      @mouses_HK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +403

      @@Daboy804 not only that but when he weant to choke midoriya he was wearing a black hoodie and baggy clothes. not to mention but he also is insanely crusty.

    • @xpload2063
      @xpload2063 4 ปีที่แล้ว +339

      @@Daboy804 he also called gigantomachia a tutorial

    • @ionlycreatedthissothatican6859
      @ionlycreatedthissothatican6859 4 ปีที่แล้ว +300

      @@Daboy804 he teabagged endeavor too

  • @nabidiboyjones6567
    @nabidiboyjones6567 4 ปีที่แล้ว +937

    Tomura didn't choose this life, he was BORN into it. He is a true force of the nature that is a hero society and I love it.

    • @Midorikonokami
      @Midorikonokami 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      We don't know that.... I mean, the theory that All for one gave him the decay quirk when he was lost that time is still a fairly strong possibility.

    • @shu830
      @shu830 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      That line reminded me of Eren. "Maybe, we a born this way. I just keep moving forward....... untill my enemies are destroyed".

    • @mouses_HK
      @mouses_HK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@Midorikonokami It doesn't matter if All for one gave him the quirk, Even if Shigaraki was quirkless, he would've still became a villain. He said himself that he hated everything, even if he didn't have a quirk, he would still try and destroy everything. Ofc he wouldn't have gotten far without his quirk, still.. Shigaraki doesn't need a quirk to be born into a broken society.

    • @filianor4495
      @filianor4495 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mouses_HK I agree with this but i don't think society would be the problem. I think tenko maybe wouldn't have been able to adjust and live with the hardships of people constantly throwing their ideals at you so he would either get depressed or fall into other groups who thought like him.

    • @filianor4495
      @filianor4495 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What does "true force of the nature that is a hero society" mean? Like he's the opposite of a civilized society that has heroes in it?

  • @hungry_khid1007
    @hungry_khid1007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2378

    Can we take a moment to to admire horikoshi's Art style

    • @boa9557
      @boa9557 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Hungry_Khid kid shigaraki looks like deku dekus eyes are rounder

    • @GiftOfKnowledge-np9vg
      @GiftOfKnowledge-np9vg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +236

      Horikoshi's art is amazing, especially when it comes to Shigaraki and the other villains. Ironically he's mentioned how he hates drawing certain villains like Shigaraki, but it kind of seems like that's because he puts so much of his A-game into them. Man does he draw Shigaraki in this weird quantum state of supermodel pretty & horror-monster ugly.

    • @mouses_HK
      @mouses_HK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +112

      I honestly love the manga style so much more than the animes. Something about the animes just makes some of the characters in the anime just plain out stupid looking or... ugly...
      Literally all of the characters Horikoshi draws (even fucking mineta) looks good. i mean, HAVE YOU SEEN HIS MIRKO DRAWINGS??! HORIKOSHI MAKES ME WANT MIRKO TO BE REAL! While the anime....

    • @dreamdesk7258
      @dreamdesk7258 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      imagine being a mouse it’s cuz the anime team is to busy making movies

    • @thyrahelena9529
      @thyrahelena9529 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      And the way he’s improved sooo much since he started MHA oml. As an artist ill always look up to him

  • @NaturalHypertrophy
    @NaturalHypertrophy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +699

    Force of Nature villains are the best, can already tell that this analysis will be one for the ages

    • @ihaventshoweredforayearbut247
      @ihaventshoweredforayearbut247 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Ikr, people hate all for one because he doesn't have a backstory yet but it's not is premise, he is the personification of terror

    • @onetouchman8238
      @onetouchman8238 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I haven't Showered for a year but I use to like afo and wanted to no more about him but when shigarki started to become more of a good villain afo is just in the way now

    • @wisdommanari6701
      @wisdommanari6701 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      They CAN be but nothing is an absolute especially in writing

    • @benbarcados3328
      @benbarcados3328 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *one for all the ages

    • @Daboy804
      @Daboy804 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Brandon Gray All For One probably has a plan. Who knows what else they put in him with the surgery. Anyone with a brain could predict shigy would take the power up and then do his own thing. I’m sure he expects this and he made Shigaraki more powerful than himself.

  • @Cruciblemallot
    @Cruciblemallot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +690

    The way I determined deku and shigaraki's desires for society was how they would view endeavor's past actions. If shiggy, the guy who was abused by his father and killed him knew what endeavor had done, I personally feel like he would be far more ruthless towards him, and wouldn't see any hope of redemption for him, because believing so would naturally contradict his own beliefs. Deku on the other hand, already knows what endeavor has done but still seeks to learn from him, simply because deku still finds salvagable aspects in him because he attempts to atone for his actions, and his importance to the current state of society.
    TL;DR deku is glass half full about society, shiggy is glass must be destroyed and a new one with fresher juice must be made but not by me lol

    • @scotcheggable
      @scotcheggable 4 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      Shiggy would consider Endeavour to be the perfect encapsulation of the Hero society, one that cares only about himself and uses and abuses those around him to get what he wants. And he views All Might as the one who facilitates this by protecting the filthy world with a thin plastic sheen to hide the truth and allow people to go about life not accepting responsibility for the world they live in.
      Deku sees Endeavour as someone who tries hard to save people and be the best at it, while making some rather big errors in judgement along the way.
      Shiggy sees only what enforces his own beliefs, Deku sees the person.

    • @zemox2534
      @zemox2534 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@VeWatchesVideos If Shiggy knew the truth about Dabi, he would encourage him to get his revenge. He would even offer to help make Enji suffer. Tomura maybe a twisted harbinger of destruction but he will always be there to help out a member of hs crew.

    • @abby6215
      @abby6215 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Lol love the juice analogy

    • @user-ho4tb5qe7v
      @user-ho4tb5qe7v 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Does shigaraki think the glass should be remade though, I kinda got the feeling he wanted total destruction

    • @mysticknight1494
      @mysticknight1494 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@user-ho4tb5qe7v Shigaraki is more like "this cup was awful so I'm gonna break it and the next cup can't possibly be worse than this"
      So I don't think he cares much about the next cup, he certainly won't be making it, but as long as is better than the one he broke than whatever

  • @gh0stzer024
    @gh0stzer024 4 ปีที่แล้ว +265

    A lot people seem to think that “just because he’s powerful that doesn’t make him a good villain”. But that’s completely missing the point, he isn’t “just powerful”, he’s developed as he has accumulated it. His growth in power reflects his growth as a person in both his actions and his ideology. He _is_ ridiculously powerful, but that is only a small part of why he is an amazing villain.

    • @nepotsuki6856
      @nepotsuki6856 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      yes those people dont know what makes great antagonist . not huge mha fan . but love mha antagonist

  • @John_Wlliamson
    @John_Wlliamson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    "People do not wish to see those who are excluded from their privilege, people don't want to be reminded of how broke the system they profit off is." This line has so much mean especially in today's age

  • @WaxyLT
    @WaxyLT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    I love how writers are beginning to realize that the power of friendship can be used by the bad guys too. I think the phantom troupe started that, but I love seeing how all of the league of villains genuinely care about each other. Despite being weaker than all of them, they are respect spinner, and the only one who ever puts him down for his lack of power is himself. Twice risked his sanity to save his friend Toga, and Toga and the others were elated to see that he had grown so much and they were all happy for him. It makes the villains so much scarier and so much more fun to watch if they actually give a crap about the people around them, because then there’s stakes for them as well.

    • @jazzmazz9214
      @jazzmazz9214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They've realized this since forever. There are examples of villains using the power of friendship since at least the early 90's. In Dragonquest Adventures of Dai, Hadlar is a villain that goes from a backstabbing piece of crap who wants nothing but power to a guy who literally stakes his final blow in a duel to death with the main protagonist on the unfulfilled wished of his fallen subordinates, not for the sake of power, but to see how far he could push himself as an individual.

  • @SoulsOfWisdom
    @SoulsOfWisdom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +967

    What's amazing is that All for One could have taken Shigaraki's quirk, erase All Might, erase whoever he wants, and win. However, that assumes All For One just wants to win. But that's not his game plan, he truly just likes stirring the pot in every way he can. All for One never cared about losing, nor does he care about Shigaraki surpassing him or even destroying him. All For One just loves the idea of hell on earth, and letting loose Shigaraki on the world fits his plan much better than it would if he himself had those powers.

    • @mattlucas169
      @mattlucas169 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Agreed

    • @wisdommanari6701
      @wisdommanari6701 4 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      Especially because he would be literally destroying the legacy of his grandmother

    • @SoulsOfWisdom
      @SoulsOfWisdom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +206

      @@wisdommanari6701 What makes it compelling is that it's so petty, it defines All for One. That's what's wild about All for One, most of what he does is petty, but he's clearly self aware and just driven towards it. This is how he derives enjoyment and pleasure. I find most characters are defined by their quirks, Shigaraki's quirk is a destructive quirk, and therefore he has a need to destroy. So when thinking about All for One, applying this same reasoning, I learn that if we had to analyze All for One by his quirk, we'd see two big things. Greed and boredom. His quirk makes him greedy for the sake of being greedy, but since he has everything, he's unable to satisfy or sustain this greed, therefore he's driven by his boredom more than almost everything else. That's literally all he's doing, he's fighting boredom. He has no reason to want to mercilessly destroy Nana's legacy, she's just a single One for All user of many. However, he's bored, so for him "Just because" is a good enough reason.

    • @Chenso2099
      @Chenso2099 4 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      And it fits. I mean, as a kid, just like his brother, he loved being a spectator or audience to the stories of good and evil in the form of manga/comics. Once he got his power, he was able to enforce his own ideal unto the world, that of the demon king who ruled above all and leads the story. Even if he fails to possess Shigaraki, I believe he’s completely satisfied and ecstatic to witness the birth of a new world similar to the one he grew up reading from the comfort of his confinement; though, he’s not truly confined as you can’t imprison someone who’s already free in spirit. Either way, he wins.

    • @thepatbackexperience4573
      @thepatbackexperience4573 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@SoulsOfWisdom A True Chaotic Evil

  • @NessaHD
    @NessaHD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +363

    I normally don't like villains, but Shigaraki really ended up becoming one of my favorite characters in HeroAca. Next season can't come soon enough. My Villain Academia is gonna be awesome.

    • @dragonlichqueen8755
      @dragonlichqueen8755 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I'm so hype for it and I can't wait for the reactions of those who only watch the anime. They are in for a ride.

    • @selfproclaimedphantomlord2352
      @selfproclaimedphantomlord2352 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@dragonlichqueen8755 if it get censored or rushed like season 4

    • @suethemarysue4969
      @suethemarysue4969 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh god saaaaaaammmmmee

    • @suethemarysue4969
      @suethemarysue4969 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@selfproclaimedphantomlord2352 I didn't like that season ((then I was an anime only)) so what did they censor and why do think it was rushed?

    • @justanotherguy8154
      @justanotherguy8154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@suethemarysue4969 in the manga, the overhaul kills and fusions were a lot more brutal

  • @lopey5035
    @lopey5035 4 ปีที่แล้ว +740

    I know this is just an opinion, but I think Shiggy is the best designed character in the entire manga.. he's just so damn cool looking

    • @ivans.5959
      @ivans.5959 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      I agree.
      Also, I love how he looks in the thumbnail

    • @Alias11085
      @Alias11085 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      *Im so goddamn crushing over him*
      He’s so goddamn hot and cute *D A M N*

    • @ivans.5959
      @ivans.5959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@Alias11085 ikr
      I wish I had a boyfriend that looked like him. I'm sure he'd be the protective type of boyfriend

    • @emezai
      @emezai 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@ivans.5959 Omg you're totally right
      Where can I find someone like shiggy in my life, strong willed, wants to change the world with those he cares abt
      Dang thats hot

    • @sketchysim5351
      @sketchysim5351 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Guys I'm sorry to crush your dreams but y'all are forgetting that he's the villain protagonist and probably will get killed which makes me sad too :c

  • @bounty200
    @bounty200 4 ปีที่แล้ว +374

    I think that killing AFO voice in his head is another example of him refusing to be a pawn. It shows how he has grown fully indipendent of his master and that he no longer admires AFO

    • @ryanwill32
      @ryanwill32 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      he still admires him for what AFO achieved, he's just determined to be his own villain and surpass him completely

    • @toadlord8594
      @toadlord8594 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Yeah he's not just becoming the new All For One, he's become his own Villain overlord, something even worse than AFO!

    • @zemox2534
      @zemox2534 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I believe Tomura will discard the last name AFO gave him and adopt a new. One. He already cut ties with his family, so now he just need to severe the last link to his former master and choose a new surname to reflect his liberation.

    • @wetroaches1641
      @wetroaches1641 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      No no, Shigaraki still likes his master, he just wants to be his own villain

    • @ivans.5959
      @ivans.5959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He still admires him though.
      Just like Deku with All Might, he's his hero and admires him. But he's determined (and destined) to surpass his teacher.

  • @eggmon3813
    @eggmon3813 4 ปีที่แล้ว +598

    I really appreciate Oceaniz. Most of the analysis for MHA is something it does wrong or the fandom praising it for the most simple things. It gives the series such a bad wrap. I like how this channel actually takes the time and effort to look into the anime beyond surface level.

    • @blank2736
      @blank2736 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yeah his analysis are spot on

    • @lillianb1516
      @lillianb1516 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      For real!!! Theres a deeper conversation to be found at the heart of every great story, and I'm disappointed by how few people take the time to give bnha's ingenious thematic core any thought.

    • @Koraxus
      @Koraxus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      I am actually surprised at the level of discussion in these comments. While it's nothing Shakespeare or Freud would write about, it's miles above what usually goes in this series' fandom.
      It's usually people caring about vapid shit like shipping, or seeing the morality of this show in very black and white terms. Someone said I supported terrorists and mass murderers just because I said Toga's criticism of the Hero society in last chapter wasn't as hypocritical as it would initially seem, since Hero society is actually kinda fucked up in some ways.

    • @lillianb1516
      @lillianb1516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      ​@@Koraxus bruh that is literally the main theme of bnha, it's meant to be discussed. Why does hero aca attract so many 12 year olds smh

    • @Koraxus
      @Koraxus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@lillianb1516 May be because a lot of the characters look "chibi" and it's a shonen.
      Still, shonens can have a bit more nuance like OPM or HxH.

  • @carmenthebookworm2393
    @carmenthebookworm2393 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    It may just be horikoshi's magnificent art style, but you can't deny that the panels of shigaraki accepting his past and finally being liberated look hauntingly beautiful.

  • @NaturalHypertrophy
    @NaturalHypertrophy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +361

    Shigaraki went from traditional flavorless shonen protagonist to one of my favorite vilain within 1 Arc. If you had told me 3 years ago that I would end up liking him more than the Hero Killer Stain I would have said no way, but here we are

    • @carllipsey1497
      @carllipsey1497 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      He's in my top 3 characters of the series.

    • @toadlord8594
      @toadlord8594 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      He’s become one my favorite characters next to Bakugou, Deku, Tokoyami and Todoroki in the entire My Hero series and one of my favorite anime Villains of all time.

    • @carllipsey1497
      @carllipsey1497 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@toadlord8594 I really can't wait to get to the villain arc in the anime.

    • @viraatsingh1377
      @viraatsingh1377 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      *antagonist

    • @toadlord8594
      @toadlord8594 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      carl lipsey I’m just worried about how much they’ll censor the violence arc, especially Shigaraki’s well “Baptism in Blood”. I.e killing his own family. Then again they made Magne’s death more violent animated.

  • @Midorikonokami
    @Midorikonokami 4 ปีที่แล้ว +298

    When you finally mentioned that first line - all men are not created equal - I got chills and tears. Finally, finally someone talks about how important this is. How Stain is the fist one who truly embodies this, and then Shigaraki learns this from him AND from his reflection: Midoriya. I love it.
    Also an added point that about the segment about how Shigaraki was not saved - it's even ILLEGAL to use your quirk unless you have a licence in this world. This means that all of the people who don't help him are scared that they will end up in prison by helping this child if they need to use their quirk to do this. Shigaraki winning over the Liberation Front is so important to me for this reason, as well as the Gentle arc. What The Liberation Front fight against is what CREATED Shigaraki. And what created Gentle is what could have happened to any of those people who met Tenko that day, had they helped, and what they decided to avoid.

    • @megabuster3940
      @megabuster3940 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Ohhhh good point

    • @dreamdesk7258
      @dreamdesk7258 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      They wouldn’t need to use their quirks, they weren’t scared they’d be arrested they just thought “this is the heroes job, I don’t have to do anything”

    • @megabuster3940
      @megabuster3940 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dreamdesk7258
      We now have to realize that this is a world that has still not done healing in the wake of the chaos and societal collapse due to the advent of quirks.

    • @dreamdesk7258
      @dreamdesk7258 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mega Buster I have no idea what you’re trying to say

    • @megabuster3940
      @megabuster3940 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@dreamdesk7258
      The government of Japan in BnHA put these restrictive laws in order as a reaction to the anarchy that came about due to the apperance of quirks.
      But they went overboard and it is doing more harm than good to society beneath the surface, as represented by Shigaraki.

  • @ObaREX
    @ObaREX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    *"Whoever said... we need a future?"*
    Love this video. Shiggy has become my favorite character in the whole show. And he just keeps getting better.
    I only wish the latest chapter came out sooner so you could include the part where AFO tries to take control of Shigaraki's body, only for Shiggy to completely reject him.

    • @shacharlem4424
      @shacharlem4424 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But all for one will not accept any of this.

    • @tdog703
      @tdog703 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@shacharlem4424 Shigaraki would have to fight him in real life and then his mind by himself can't wait to see him win

  • @lunausagi8495
    @lunausagi8495 4 ปีที่แล้ว +351

    There are *some people* that refuses to acknowledge Shigaraki having a point in wanting to destroy my hero's society because they truly think that it has zero flaws. I mean damn.

    • @Katokhann
      @Katokhann 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      I've spoken to some people who still think Shigaraki is the same as he was in season 1

    • @bluechoi4690
      @bluechoi4690 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@Katokhann hOw

    • @kaitouboy6808
      @kaitouboy6808 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@Katokhann yep they didn't understood his character

    • @Katokhann
      @Katokhann 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@bluechoi4690 My only guess is first impressions. He acted like a man child when we first meet him and i guess that just stuck to alot of people. Honeslty there's a ton of people who can't seem to get that MHA is as much about Shigaraki growing into a villian as it is about Deku growing into a hero.

    • @bluechoi4690
      @bluechoi4690 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Katokhann too bad for them

  • @JohnSmith-op3qj
    @JohnSmith-op3qj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    You know, in classic hero's journey, the only growth we see is on the hero's side. So you made a great point here. If the thing that defeats villains in that classic journey is the hero's growth, *what do you do against an evolving villain?*

  • @mariajosefernandez1525
    @mariajosefernandez1525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    It kinda scares me of how much shigaraki looks like Deku and his old personality was like dekus too

    • @hana0647
      @hana0647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yea and that they were both quirkless it really shows both people were raised differently and how it affected there lifes

    • @Dazhdaha
      @Dazhdaha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hana0647 How was Tenko quirkless, there's a theory about the fact that AFO was the guy that gave Shiggy the Decay Quirk but that's only a theory so is there any facts you have about that statement?

    • @hana0647
      @hana0647 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dazhdaha ok so shiggy had the same shoes and almight and deku and we already know quirkless people’s feet are different also there’s a theory that what quirk you have changes your personality like bakugo has an explosive personality and deku started acting exactly like all might when he received ofa and if you think about it shiggys personality switched up when he got his quirk + the fact that his friends used to leave him out of playing hero that was probably cause he didn’t have a quirk

    • @Dazhdaha
      @Dazhdaha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hana0647 It's not based on quirks it's just storywriting like Deku had already shown heroic aspects before being the 9th user of OFA plus you once again said that its a theory not factual proof

    • @hana0647
      @hana0647 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dazhdaha shiggy was still raised without a quirk even if afo didn’t give it to him even if it was just him manifesting late

  • @mclovin6410
    @mclovin6410 4 ปีที่แล้ว +253

    Shigaraki is an ogre, he has layers

  • @lennyface8195
    @lennyface8195 4 ปีที่แล้ว +364

    Most People: *Waiting for any form of conformation that Dabi is a Todoroki*
    Me: *Waiting for the day that All For One tells Tomura "I'm proud of you."*

    • @cal8338
      @cal8338 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Well in the latest chapter, Shigaraki said FUCK YOU All for One lol

    • @nv5116
      @nv5116 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@cal8338 fr 🤣

    • @selfproclaimedphantomlord2352
      @selfproclaimedphantomlord2352 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      He rejected all for one

    • @suethemarysue4969
      @suethemarysue4969 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Dabi confirmation as a Todoroki is literally the least thing I care about rn

    • @hellNo116
      @hellNo116 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Right now I am terrified I wouldn't care less about tabi.

  • @chode___
    @chode___ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    man coming back to this video is ..... intresting to say the least

  • @MarianaBello-fq3hx
    @MarianaBello-fq3hx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I'm so pissed that he isn't the final villain of this series. His character evolved for literally nothing aside than looking hot while he is a meat puppet, i guess.

    • @kirbo4111
      @kirbo4111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      he still might be tbh. thats probably why they havent just made him 100% after all this time, especially with him being at 98% for so long and the S&S confrontation showing his childhood home again. Its possible that shigaraki can still liberate himself again, as after all, he rejects afo every time every time we see him now.
      whether that's setup for him setting himself free,
      setup for him ultimately being wasted and overwritten
      or for deku to save and reform is i guess completely up to each reader to speculate until any are confirmed. But even if you dont have any faith in where the author decides to take it, it's still too early to say anything concrete about him right?

    • @grandtrashpanda3205
      @grandtrashpanda3205 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This comment did not age well

    • @grandtrashpanda3205
      @grandtrashpanda3205 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shigaraki is not hot 💀

  • @absolutecoolguy4290
    @absolutecoolguy4290 4 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    40 minutes of an amazing character. Definitely one one of the best villain ever.

    • @megashark1013
      @megashark1013 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He's great, but he's not in my top 10.

    • @selfproclaimedphantomlord2352
      @selfproclaimedphantomlord2352 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@megashark1013 if its come to shounen manga he comes in top 5 as a antagonist but overall he is in my top 20

    • @yahabibi2413
      @yahabibi2413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He’s good but not one of the best imo

  • @Adm1ralDoom
    @Adm1ralDoom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +283

    i am forever grateful there are youtubers like you who see the series for its amazing writing and choose to make content highlighting it, especially since it’s way more popular to blindly hate on mha bc “haha mha bad give me views.” also, i’ve been subbed for a while and i think this is one of the best videos you’ve done on this channel, i can tell you spent a lot of time on this and it paid off. thank you so much

    • @spidermanjjj01
      @spidermanjjj01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nuxtaku right? 😂

    • @Adm1ralDoom
      @Adm1ralDoom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Mid, Cliche not specifically him, it’s just popular to hate on mha and most people reduce it to just generic shounen without a second thought, but regarding nux yeah his deku video was atrocious lmao, but if you take that guy seriously you’re fighting an uphill battle so i just ignore him

    • @megashark1013
      @megashark1013 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Adm1ralDoom Nux’s video was actually a pretty damn good critique of Deku’s character once you get past him being an obnoxious asshole. Also, he was kinda right about MHA fans being pretty salty.

    • @spidermanjjj01
      @spidermanjjj01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@megashark1013 lmao "Deku only had character development mid season 2" you calling that a good criticism?

    • @raec5426
      @raec5426 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@megashark1013 I can see the point of view in the video with some aspects, though I disagree with most. The major thing about it is that he misunderstands how Deku's character thematically fits the series for example better than Mirio. So the basis for a lot of it is completely off the mark.

  • @GPBA89
    @GPBA89 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "Pups who are abused often grow to be vicious creatures. But they never forget where they came from. And they never forgive."

  • @ohuan.
    @ohuan. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    Phenomenal analysis. Shigaraki is one of the best written antagonists of any story I’ve ever seen, and you perfectly encapsulated both the essence and importance of his character. I’ll revisit this once the My Villain Academia arc gets animated and this video blows up ;)

    • @mihajlomilisavljevic3438
      @mihajlomilisavljevic3438 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You must've not read a lot of stories lmao

    • @Azael41096
      @Azael41096 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      oh no! my father said me I can't be a hero! AHHHH I want to kill everybody!!
      Best Villain 10/10 Don't overthink about him and his "backstory"

    • @emmar.7716
      @emmar.7716 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can't wait!

    • @ohuan.
      @ohuan. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Mihajlo Milisavljević 8-1 i have :) Meruem, Gus from BB, fucking Voldemort, all great. This is just as great too. He’s a character with depth and charisma, like all good villains. Don’t see why you have to be so hateful :/

    • @mihajlomilisavljevic3438
      @mihajlomilisavljevic3438 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ohuan. Every villain you have just mentioned is at least 5 times better than him lol. He has no depth, his daddy abused him boohoo now he's gonna destroy everything. His backstory is just a desperate excuse, a weak little string attached to the fact he basically gave up on his goal and just became a destruction craving bastard.

  • @nabidiboyjones6567
    @nabidiboyjones6567 4 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    Absolute masterpiece. This is basically the Mr.Morj equivalent of MHA. Izuku vs Tomura is not just a good vs. bad, it is a clash of ideals. Their clash will create a new society. I really want Tomura to break down and crumble what the word “hero” and “villain”. So much so that it’s use must be retired entirely.
    Izuku will see things from Tomura’s perspective. Right now he just views him as evil, a bad guy. What he doesn’t know that Tomura didn’t choose this life. He was born into it, his quirk is only a representation of who he is as a person. His personality is founded upon that. Izuku will relate to Shigaraki, for he once was an outsider. He was born quirkless, an outsider looking in. This is even more evident when you see Midoriya as a child watching All Might from his computer. Then when he first witness a hero situation (the shit that happens in the beginning I don’t remember) and chooses to act on it, then is he thrusted into the hero life. This parallels Tomura’s upbringing as he was not wanted by anyone and then thrusted into the villain life when All for One took him in.
    Izuku will realize that the once idolized and remarkable hero society is not sustainable. That this “utopia” of a world has flaws. That it was this hero society that birth Shigaraki in the first place. I’m assuming this is when the realization comes toward Izuku and the reader.
    Also I just wanted to mention that anyone living in the U.S. can relate to this given the recent events regarding the state of African Americans.
    BTW if none of this happens I will be very disappointed. This kind of non-diegetic story telling is the shit that I live for in manga. Which is why I love watching videos like this, and Mr.Morj in general. (Mr.Morj is a master analyst of One Piece for anyone wondering)

    • @mouses_HK
      @mouses_HK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I really really hope this happens. I'm sure horikoshi is going to do this right after killing off all might. Also, UNDERRATED COMMENT

    • @helloramos5805
      @helloramos5805 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mouses_HK What "underrated comment"? if all this comments in this section are saying the same thing "this video is a masterpiece" "shigaraki is amastepiece best shonen villain" "long speech about a personal subjective glorification of this character" etc.

    • @mouses_HK
      @mouses_HK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@helloramos5805 It's not underrated anymore smh. It was at like 2 likes when I first found it. Don't you know that likes increase? Also do you know how to read? Look at the date of my reply.

    • @mouses_HK
      @mouses_HK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@helloramos5805 I also don't really think that everyone is saying that he's the best shonen villain. He is one of the best, not THE best.

    • @mouses_HK
      @mouses_HK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@helloramos5805 What do you think would be in the comments btw? if this video is talking about how Shigarakis character is amazing, why would you think some people would be talking about some random ass shit like, "Walugi is better", like wtf? What do you expect my guy?

  • @MandatoryFruit
    @MandatoryFruit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    As an aspiring writer: My God is my road ahead going to be long.
    The fact that you can pick up on all these subtleties, character moments, and parallels, and the fact that Hirokoshi could even think about them in the first place. It's incredible. I've been really really enjoying Shigaraki lately, but I couldn't quite tell you why if you were to ask. But you've just perfectly laid it out for me.

  • @MarianaBello-fq3hx
    @MarianaBello-fq3hx 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Hori on his way to erase almost all paralels btween Shigaraki and Midoriya ✍️🔥🔥

    • @cannabishornliu6119
      @cannabishornliu6119 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      With no significant benefit for the characters or story.
      For example Tenko had a quirk but AFO stole it and gave him the damaged Decay instead.

    • @shooterDisease
      @shooterDisease 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Why did they let Hori cook!

  • @dylath2304
    @dylath2304 4 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    Saw on Twitter about the overabundance of hate comments, just thought I'd add that you seem like a really cool guy and that I love all of your videos Ocean Man

    • @azirul9311
      @azirul9311 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Typical fucking Twitter

    • @LjuboCupic1912
      @LjuboCupic1912 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Azirul why people give a fuck what some randos think of them, especially on Twitter, I will never understand.

    • @heinoustentacles5719
      @heinoustentacles5719 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@LjuboCupic1912 This is why i'm not fucking on Twitter

  • @AidanKerr
    @AidanKerr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Shigaraki has recently grown to be one of my favourite villains in Shonen and manga as a whole, and it’s really refreshing to see some deep dive into MHA, narratively and thematically, not just shitting on it as “Normie trash” or writing it off as wannabe One Piece.

  • @thebastard890
    @thebastard890 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I never realized how much Shigaraki parallels All Might, or even how much he smiles or the holes in his hands

  • @fawfulmark2
    @fawfulmark2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    He also is in many ways a dark reimagining of Horikoshi's Protagonist from his original one-shot Manga who was also named Tenko: there the protagonist was a white-haired boy who hated war and violence and had the power to destroy weapons and armor by touching them with his hands.

  • @gamercore5216
    @gamercore5216 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    *Cries thinking about what could have been*

    • @Knick3607
      @Knick3607 ปีที่แล้ว

      He back now.

  • @rfij3268
    @rfij3268 4 ปีที่แล้ว +410

    This guy started out as an edgy "Nothing personel" kid, and now he's at the level of the Green Goblin. I remember when my friends and I said he was a terrible villain

    • @mouses_HK
      @mouses_HK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      He literally is Green goblin. The exact opposite of the protaganist, but yet SO similar.... Horikoshi is a spider-man fan, and this was just brilliant. Making a GREAT green goblin like character, but also creating anime thanos.

    • @nicholasleclerc1583
      @nicholasleclerc1583 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      imagine being a mouse
      Who is "anime Thanos" and how is he that ?

    • @jamessea9012
      @jamessea9012 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      LMAO If you think Green Goblin is a good villain then your standards are low. You capeshit Hero Academia fans are pathetic.

    • @bio6588
      @bio6588 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@jamessea9012 I respect you because you like Fire Punch, but fuck you.

    • @jamessea9012
      @jamessea9012 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bio6588 Cope. Shounen is terrible and if you like shounen you should grow up.

  • @AllFiction418
    @AllFiction418 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I didn't like Shigaraki for the longest but goddamn has he been going hard since villain arc for me. Love the dude now. Backstory fixed it for me but everything else was a bonus.

  • @tophfan
    @tophfan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I can't believe author hyped him up so much written in him so much only to get him possessed and be gone

    • @justsomeguyontheinternet7134
      @justsomeguyontheinternet7134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He got the madara treatment tons of hype and build up only to get sidelined for a much more boring villain

  • @temi1355
    @temi1355 4 ปีที่แล้ว +204

    When you like the villain more than the protagonist 🙃

    • @hungry_khid1007
      @hungry_khid1007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      My hero academia were everyone is the protagonist

    • @mouses_HK
      @mouses_HK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@hungry_khid1007 I feel like most of them would be able to become the protaganist but we need Deku as it or else everything will just feel like Filler. Deku always stands out of all the main characters in MHA. It's just a shame thaat Deku becomes the "greates hero". What does that mean? The number 1? I mean if it's the greatest hero it should mean your number 1, but in Dekus mind he has to become the next symbol of peace, and his goal is to make the whole world a brighter place. But you don't have to be number 1 to do that. Unless Deku becomes the number 1 hero BY DOING THAT then it would make sense. But while doing it I cannot see happening.

    • @bluekey1470
      @bluekey1470 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mouses_HK the series ain't over yet just gotta wait for the perfect time.

    • @boa9557
      @boa9557 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      imagine being a mouse he going to sacrifice himself or lose something that makes him disabled

    • @ivans.5959
      @ivans.5959 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hungry_khid1007 If you put any character (except for some) as the protagonist, they would be perfect

  • @TheDemidem0n
    @TheDemidem0n 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Okay so three years later this is still peak analysis!! I absolutely love this essay. It brings the heat. I frequently come back to enjoy your rhetoric. Great job!

    • @JEREMCEE
      @JEREMCEE 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I come back to this often too! Such an amazing analysis

  • @YuzuMelodious
    @YuzuMelodious 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I'm a simple person. I see a Shigaraki video, I click, observe and like.

  • @onixbread1431
    @onixbread1431 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "And the best part, this is only the beginning"
    Damn, the future really is undetermined huh

  • @awyehh
    @awyehh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The thumbnail of this video has changed more times than Twice personality changing throughout the series.

  • @MrSaintRai
    @MrSaintRai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This all crumbles if you just take the time to think about how AFO ruled before All Might bodied him. Cool story beats but ultimately this is just AFO's way to take back got was taken from him. I acknowledge the date this was posted and it's just unfortunate how the story has taken shape to today

    • @MrSaintRai
      @MrSaintRai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      haha monster on a leash, cmon that ending bit to the conclusion is just salt on the wound, man did Horikoshi did you good

  • @MaxP_88
    @MaxP_88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    What I love about current HeroAca is how it became through build-up into a tangled web of complex characters with their own stories and struggles but all interconnected serving the greater themes of the story. Endeavor is another example and I cannot wait to see where his arc goes, and I would love to see you doing a video on him once his story is more or less complete.
    Shigaraki is the product of the eternal cycle of influence good and evil have on each other but also of a complacient society that relegated all of its problems into their spandex saviors, without taking any personal responsibility for them. The term "victim of society" is often thrown around to justify the unjustifiable but it is neccessary to ask ourselves the hard questions and wonder how much are we responsible for our monsters. This series is more thematically layered than people give it credit for and so it pains me when they bash it.
    This essay IMO is a masterpiece.

  • @justboy8908
    @justboy8908 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I just love how Oceaniz keep changing the thumbnail to this video😂 it’s funny

    • @emperorvader3344
      @emperorvader3344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly can you blame him? Especially when more badass art of Shigaraki is being released

    • @justboy8908
      @justboy8908 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@emperorvader3344 true

    • @emperorvader3344
      @emperorvader3344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @SleepyWolf For me though the volume 28 cover of Shigaraki looming over Aizawa comes pretty damn close

  • @Eugene_Black
    @Eugene_Black 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I think shigaraki's most dangerous power is to reflect and learn from failure

  • @Yal_Rathol
    @Yal_Rathol 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    i think my favourite subtle thematic element is that, starting in the flashback in the overhaul arc where shigaraki dispatches the league, horikoshi started drawing shigaraki as if his hair is glowing a soft, pale white.
    historically, this type of imagery would be called "a glory", or "the glory". asian cultures usually represent it as golden light or an aura of fire around the head and shoulders, while europeans went with a solar disc behind the person's head, as if they were illuminated by some star within their own mind. the tradition of the glory has since evolved into a new form though.
    we call it a halo.
    shigaraki, beatific with his hair glowing a soft white and a gentle smile on his face, reaching out to you to draw you up to his level, telling you he trusts you and will protect what you love. and the moment you take his hand, you die, screaming in agony.

    • @js66613
      @js66613 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thing is though, that physical trait is not uncommon.
      Griffith from Berserk is light haired.
      Shougo Makashima from Psycho pass is light haired.
      The first true antagonistic group in BC is almost entirely light haired, especially its not-entirely-human individuals.
      I mean, true, you never said it was a thing unique to BNHA, and that doesn't take away from the beautiful irony of that part of his design... I just figured I might mention that anime seems to do that often.
      Along with some Western fiction.
      I mean, Nyra, from Legends of the Guardians: Owls of Ga'Hoole is a white owl, just with red markings. Grindelwald from Fantastic Beasts and Were to Find them: Crimes of Grindelwald is light haired. Shen from Kung Fu Panda 2 is a white peafowl. They all gather followers and they're not above causing suffering to build a certain society.

  • @shooterDisease
    @shooterDisease 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    We were denied peak.

    • @ReidAstrea
      @ReidAstrea 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It could've been so peak...

  • @jazzmazz9214
    @jazzmazz9214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I'm fucking wheezing watching this video after Shigaraki was pretty much turned into a meat puppet.
    Horikoshi must have watched this video and thought "yeah, nah man, shiggy a victim bro, AFO the main villain".

    • @Oceaniz
      @Oceaniz  2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      crying and sobbing and screaming rn horikoshi HATES me

  • @bloodysimile4893
    @bloodysimile4893 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Random person: How many times did you watch this video?
    Me: yes.

  • @danitabori
    @danitabori 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    wow this was awesome, I think this was the best MHA video I've ever seen. I haven't thought this deeply about the story and Shigaraki but everything makes sense. I feel so bad for the people who think MHA is just another overhyped shounen series. Horikoshi clearly has planned a lot and has a lot to say in his story.

  • @gutsonthemic5261
    @gutsonthemic5261 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Excellent analysis on skigaraki. You even covered somethings i never realize about the series,which made me appreciation it more.But for real.This the type of writing i can take inspiration on.Just like you said,this is only the half way point of the series and make me excited for what comes next. Horik really knows his stuff. Despite using a concept that was already done before,he still manage to create well thought out,well written,well constructed and a original (and amazing) story. If the series keeps up this level of consistency,the series could reach up to the level of hxh,fullmetal alchemist and attack on titan

    • @kaitouboy6808
      @kaitouboy6808 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ya but I am worried about hori he gets bullied and receive death threats its frustrating of toxicity that he receives from people

    • @justanotherguy8154
      @justanotherguy8154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kaitouboy6808 yeah, but mans pulls through everytime and gives us great content, he really is a hero.

  • @r.babylon2885
    @r.babylon2885 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Honestly Shiguraki is everything I was hoping to see with Sasuke Uchiha.

  • @monkeyjoe70
    @monkeyjoe70 4 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    I can see how a lot of people are complaining how Shiggy's still basically a manchild who has everything handed to him, but in my opinion, that's what makes him terrifying. Imagine giving a kid with some malicious intent a gun with unlimited ammo. He may not have the deepest of motives or ideals when compared to other villains, but because of that, it makes him more of an unhinged thing that needs to be stopped. Not every villain has to be some philosopher with a profound view of the world, they can have a simple goal too

    • @CobaltGOAT
      @CobaltGOAT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Shiggy being a manchild is the whole point of his character too and a key part of him. Yeah he makes a lot of strides from USJ to where he is now, but his pettiness and childish behavior make up who he is still. It's just more dangerous because he now has the power to actually destroy shit when hhe wants to.

    • @danielhart7435
      @danielhart7435 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Honestly a lot of villains motives are very shallow and stupid if you think about it. Also, the whole being handed thing is a dumb argument that I wish would go away.

    • @danielhart7435
      @danielhart7435 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rice Cream Man Can I just say that Shigaraki’s man child behavior is just every villains behavior if you look at them for what they really are. Like Pain.

    • @Ravi9A
      @Ravi9A 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Finally an honest argument.

    • @ivans.5959
      @ivans.5959 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Remember when Shigaraki talked with Deku in the mall about Stain?
      He said smt like "but we are not so different, both of us just want to destroy what we hate". He sees villains like Stain and the people who follow them (but hate Shigaraki) as hypocrites, because both of them are the same, people who destroy what they hate, and yet, they despise Shigaraki for that, while Stain disguises his hatred behind the reasons he claims to have (but at the the same time, he is willing to kill children).

  • @shooterDisease
    @shooterDisease ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Mans is back after countless chapters and he really said ‘now what? You think this is somehow better?? After all I’m your villain, hero.”
    FUCK ME I LOVE ME SOME SHIGARAKI

  • @BlackBurrito9073
    @BlackBurrito9073 4 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    DUDE.......... This video is A M A Z I N G, i bet that it was a huge effort to create this but seriously.... it is incredible and it was worth it. This is just another example of why a love your content so much and im looking forward to your future Analisis.
    Im so glad that you of all TH-camrs were the one that talked about how much of a Great Character Tomura is, because seriously...... there is still a lot of people out there who thinks that Shigaraki is still no Big Deal.
    And also..... can you please tell the name of the song played in the minute 24:40??

    • @danielrosa9502
      @danielrosa9502 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's the sky pillar theme from Pokemon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire

    • @danielrosa9502
      @danielrosa9502 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      also the song immediately after it (at 25:25) is also from the same games when you fight the legendary pokemon of the game, just thought it was cool he put those two back to back :)

    • @BlackBurrito9073
      @BlackBurrito9073 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danielrosa9502 Thank you so much :D

  • @troggdorthesecond
    @troggdorthesecond 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I love Shigaraki, as with every reiteration of 'The Heroes' Journey'. It's refreshing to watch, 'The Villain's Journey' unfold before us.

    • @Aaron-wq3jz
      @Aaron-wq3jz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isnt it just naruto and sauske but better written

    • @VillainApologist_
      @VillainApologist_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Aaron-wq3jz no, because Sasuke never grew as a villain.
      We didn’t watch him mature, or grow.

  • @melinakeeper3466
    @melinakeeper3466 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Every time I come back to watch this video, it has a new thumbnail.
    I'm not bothered by it or anything, I just think it's pretty neat that you come back every so often to change it.

  • @machodgdon
    @machodgdon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This hurts me now

  • @violettracey
    @violettracey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "The system is flawed, and there are many who wish to reshape it in their own way."
    Amazingly well written video!

  • @BlackBurrito9073
    @BlackBurrito9073 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I swear to God this video will not be remember for how good it is but for how many times the miniature shot had changed xddd.

  • @isaiascanete6651
    @isaiascanete6651 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Seeing this makes me so happy as an anime only. The league of Villains is the reason I still really care about MHA and I hope next season comes soon

    • @nv5116
      @nv5116 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fr, I've realized how MHA villain works from s2. And that makes me stick to the series

    • @suethemarysue4969
      @suethemarysue4969 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ur in for a ride no wait Ur in for a freaking rollercoaster

    • @sketchysim5351
      @sketchysim5351 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nv5116 right? They all have a reason to be who they are now. Twice has personality issues and since most people don't accept mentally unstable people, he chose the LOV who accepted him as a teammate. Big Sis Magne, as you know, is a trans woman I think. And none of the villains pronounced her as a he (except for Chisaki's slaves)
      This really made me like the villains over some heroes. I also really hope that they might change in a good way and maybe get even with heroes? Which seems really impossible but, have you seen the theory video that Shigaraki would kill AFO after hearing Nana's story, All Might apologising him and learn that they are connected? God it really hypes me

  • @pikazilla6405
    @pikazilla6405 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    As sad as it is, with oceaniz’s most recent video on how mha’s story has fallen apart, I can’t help but imagine clown music playing in the background when he talks about how this was just “the middle point of the story”, like there’s no way he could’ve foreseen that but it’s still hilarious how mha seemed determined to shred its own dignity to pieces the moment it hit its peak

    • @AgentNero9
      @AgentNero9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      "the middle point of the story"
      That DID NOT age well

  • @roohiirfanlutfi891
    @roohiirfanlutfi891 4 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    It's good to see/hear someone praise Mha for it's greatness especially after Masked Man and Nux Taku's collaborated video

    • @TwentyFirstPilot
      @TwentyFirstPilot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Generally, when Nux Taku criticizes anything, he does it as an elitist asshole who thinks that if it's not one piece, it's trash. Masked man just went along with him for the views. A better TH-camr to watch is gigguk, because he has good things to say about everything, and is almost always right

    • @raec5426
      @raec5426 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      It's a meme to hate on MHA these days unfortunately. I'm chilling though since I enjoy the series regardless. lol

    • @dbw2587
      @dbw2587 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Tbh Nux Taku is a clown

    • @nabidiboyjones6567
      @nabidiboyjones6567 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@TwentyFirstPilot He isn't even a good One Piece youtuber. The best one is Mr.Morj

    • @sholaajumobi7678
      @sholaajumobi7678 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I saw the video 😂😂 they got some good points tho

  • @carmenthebookworm2393
    @carmenthebookworm2393 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Shigaraki is undoubtedly my favorite villain ever for how well-written and developed he is throughout the story of BNHA. And somehow you were able to hit ALL THE POINTS that make him my fave, AND THEN SOME. I SWEAR THE NUMBER OF TIMES I HAD TO PAUSE THE VIDEO BC OF AN EPIPHANY YOU GAVE ME- I WAS JUST IN CONSTANT AWE. THIS WAS AN INSANELY WELL-MADE VIDEO AND I APPLAUD YOU.

    • @scottvgamer1163
      @scottvgamer1163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      From a purely evil standpoint, I think AFO is the better villain. I consider him to be the perfect "villain". However, Shigaraki does have many qualities that do make him better in some ways. His backstory is perfect and he has every reason to be the villain he is. And unlike AFO, he has character development.

  • @clairehu2893
    @clairehu2893 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The parallelism and thematic significance contrasting Shigaraki with Eri should not be forgotten either. Even down to their character design-white hair. For Eri, someone with a quirk as destructive as Shigaraki, and having been told by others of her inherent destructive nature, was saved because someone-a single person-had reached out to her. But Shigaraki was never offered this option until AFO did so. If we combine this with the recent reveal of Hawks’ backstory, we see that he had every opportunity and the perfect circumstance to turn down a path of villainy, yet it was the single circumstance of being saved (albeit by Endeavor), being encouraged by his mother to strive to embody the strength of that doll she gave him, and eventually saving others with that resolve that changed his life forever. It’s just so incredibly beautiful how so many character and story arcs weave together in the narrative, and you did an incredible job with this video.

  • @Avarn388
    @Avarn388 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    This is hands down your best video. I can tell you spent a lot of time and effort crafting this. Fantastic job.

  • @leonardoconrado369
    @leonardoconrado369 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    This aged well

  • @bennetthibner7551
    @bennetthibner7551 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    TLDR, he is a carefully build force of nature evil that we get to watch take up that mantel.

  • @istalkghosts497
    @istalkghosts497 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    When I first saw shigaraki, I thought he was one shot comical villain but I was so wrong

  • @mochann1133
    @mochann1133 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I always liked Shigaraki when I first watched the show. I thought he was a funny hokey villain. But the growth he’s gone through makes him one of my favorite characters from any media. God I love him

  • @Daboy804
    @Daboy804 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Glad to see you talk about him. Your analysis are always entertaining and He’s my second favorite character only losing to All Might. This did my boy justice

  • @kinko143
    @kinko143 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It just blows me away that even the speech bubbles changed. That's how big this man changed. That tiny little detail right there is why I love the Manga.

  • @yonatanhoresh2695
    @yonatanhoresh2695 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Shiggy when asked why he wants to destroy everything:
    "Because I was born into this world".

    • @mouses_HK
      @mouses_HK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      it's so sad. No matter how many times I re-read My Villain academia, Shigarakis backstory always makes me tear up. The first time I almost cried. But now I just tear up. BUT IT'S STILL SO SAD

    • @megashark1013
      @megashark1013 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Eren Jaeger: "Stop! Thief!"

    • @Icarusinhischariot
      @Icarusinhischariot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@megashark1013 and then an epic youseebiggirl plays and they run into the sunset destroying the world

  • @salagayikes4016
    @salagayikes4016 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Shigaraki is the best new age shonen villain by FAR stands up as one of the best shonen villains period

  • @yuri_lynn
    @yuri_lynn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This video not only receives the award for my favorite TH-cam video ever, but it also let me see Shigarki in a way that just makes me admire how much thought was put into his character. I love you, Shigarki! 💗

  • @toadlord8594
    @toadlord8594 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Well now afer SO MANY chapters Shigaraki comes back with a Vengance and outsmarts the All For One Vestige from the inside, So now FINALLY Shigaraki himself is FINALLY BACK...for now but regardless FINALLY THE REAL FINAL VILLAIN IS HERE AGAIN!
    LOVE ME SHIGARAKI RETURN!

  • @monadoboy9639
    @monadoboy9639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    After watching season 5 and seeing this character fully realised on screen I'm so hyped for Shigaraki like I thought he was boring at first but now I realise what an excellently written villain he is and I'm so hyped for season 6 because of this

  • @Nomnomnom1280
    @Nomnomnom1280 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Another thing thats shows how much Shiggy evolved is how thicc he became over the storyline

  • @nicholascanionjr.7618
    @nicholascanionjr.7618 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Shigaraki is a crescendo of suffering, yearning for destruction to bring him to a decrescendo

  • @VillainApologist_
    @VillainApologist_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I keep coming back to this, because I love Shigaraki so much, because this is so well articulated, and because so many people don’t realize how amazing of a character he is

  • @zemox2534
    @zemox2534 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This analysis video gets better and better everytime I watch it.

    • @TheMeaningOfNerd
      @TheMeaningOfNerd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey there, don't want to unnecessarily plug but you seem to appreciate good anime analysis. I think you would really appreciate my latest stuff on MHA, AoT, Death Note, and Wonder egg priority. Feel free to check it out💪

  • @randommortal3383
    @randommortal3383 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    When all Shigaraki needed was Ingenium.
    Also, both Shiggy and Deku are grandsons of Nana. Shiggy biologically. Deku sorta biologically.

  • @shotgunchicken7284
    @shotgunchicken7284 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I fucking love what Shiggy has evolved into. He doesn't try to use a form of purpose as way to justify what he did unlike Stain or Overhaul and in a way he may very much be a unwanted cure for the festering cancer that is current Hero Society. Not a cure they want but one they NEED.

  • @mayermayhem580
    @mayermayhem580 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "Only the half way mark"
    ;(

  • @cavaanci6316
    @cavaanci6316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This video keeps getting its thumbnail changed every time there is an update in the story and honestly I love that attention to detail