Sympathy for the Villain.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 พ.ค. 2024
- Villain: the worst guy...
0:00 Taijitu
1:19 Evil
3:25 Friend to Feind
4:21 Man vs. Self
6:23 Man vs. Monster
7:55 Man vs. Machine
9:10 Man vs. Order
13:01 Student vs. Master
15:32 Man vs. Idol
17:35 Antagonists & Protagonists
18:09 Man vs. Society
22:20 You Complete Me.
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Zuko truly does have the best redemption arc for a villain 😭
@Names Don't Matter no
No cap
@@ibuk9631 -cap
I never actually saw him as an actual villain
He's the most interesting character and my favorite character in the whole The Last Airbender show.
Zuko was the villain because we were watching the show from Aang's point of view.
But if we watch the show from the cabbage merchant's point of view, Aang's the true villain.
Bro you have to see "Attack on Titan"
@@devnathhansda6738 what does aot have to do with this
@@gavin7841 I think he is talking about the current state with eren and how the tables turned
a bit far fetched haha
Cabbage man, the greatest character ever
True
After watching hundreds of video essays, I have learned a single fact: Avatar has an example for every subject.
even something along the lines of: how to write bad main characters? Because I don't see that being the case ;)
@@eberlix it is very common to use opposites of stated views in essays to point out their flaws and show examples of what not to do, so it can be used as a manual on what not to do when making a bad main character.
@@addeum7766 But then an Avatar main character is still being used as an example of how to write a good main character, and not as a example of how to write a bad main character.
Avatar is such a perfectly made show. Watch at any age and you will still wnjoy
@@eberlixnah they would use Legend of Korra for that video essay
You know one of the most brilliantly subtle things about Zuko? Even in his very first appearance he establishes himself as noble, albeit in a very subtle way. He non-lethally takes down Sokka rather than just burning him to a crisp, and he actually honors his agreement to leave the Water Tribe in peace if Aang surrenders. Before we know quite literally anything about him, they've established he has a code of honor.
Lawful neutral
Excellent argument.
Unfortunately, I farted.
@@yeetboiwhatyesplease2095 😢
@@yeetboiwhatyesplease2095it feels getting flash bang, in the good way
probably shouldn't said that way...
"Zuko felt more pain than any other character in the show"
Are you seriously forgeting that cabbage seller?
You are at 69 likes so even though I would like I cant
"MY CABBAGESSS!!"
Dat poor man
Each day his cabbages gets destroyed
ik this is a joke but op REALLY said that a dude who had an abusive father had worse pain than: a child whose entire people, family, and culture completely wiped out, a girl whose mother died and almost had HER culture wiped out, a boy whose father left him to go to war and had to be raised by sister. i know zuko was a complex character with complex pain but oh my GOD
Nah it’s toph when she senses what happens in sokka’s tent
dr. doofenshmirtz is also a villain that comes to mind. he was just a man who was so hurt and deprived of his family's love, which caused him to turn to the "bad" side. even though it's a kids' show, they really did make a great villain who we could sympathize for and love in a way.
The thing is - doofenshmirtz is not actually a villain, he's just as much a protagonist as Perry, maybe even more
Yup
He is a wholesome man who is obsessed with the idea of being a villain, but even then he limits himself to only the tri-state area
or better, kingpin from spiderman that scene where miles defeats him in the spider verse is amazing
Even though he's a villain, he cares for her daughter
Zuko shouting "strike me. you never held back before" was extremely telling even before his redemption arc
In that moment, he seems to yell out for the pain to finally assist him for once instead of hurting him in trying to bend lightning to his will, only for the universe to not answer his calls once again.
@@SuperRavensfan101 that was hella gud shakespear
I ship Zuko and Azula
@@thegoldendiamond6762 you remember that they are brother and sister, right
@@thegoldendiamond6762 obvious bait ☠️
I’ve always found the narrative of Zuko to be painful. Ironically not because of his scar, but because of the sheer amount of emotional trauma he undergoes. His humanity is evident, yet he consequently makes attempt to undermine it. He tries to convince himself that his options are limited until he gives in to his inevitable triumphant empathy. Truly terrific piece of fiction. Art, even.
A bit like Dracula from Castlevania; his biggest flaw as a villain is that he's not as big a monster as he thinks he is.
You say that but like…
Yeah, even I liked Azula more than Zuko cause while Zuko is a hero on the wrong side… Azula knows she’s wrong but continues anyway.
@@TheRealHelveticayeah i do believe zuko is a good example to use for the essay but I really thought it was even more important to go over azula's character arc and tragedy. our sympathy for zuko is never questioned as he ultimately becomes part of the protagonists, but the complexities of azula's character would have been way more interesting to go over for the "true" sympathy for the villain.
If only every villain had an uncle Iroh in their lives..
Everybody needs an uncle Iroh in their life. Hell, I need one.
I have a friend who is basically the Uncle Iroh of my life and I have such a powerful urge to make her proud that it's not even funny.
Your 100% right
azula has uncle iroh though
@@sainbaatar518 well. Yes but no. Iroh agreed with Zuko about azula being crazy. So they teamed up to try to take her down
Dude your voice is so calming please narrate my funeral
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Imagine EmpLemon narrating your funeral and he has a downwards spiral half way through and just starts screaming about Twitter, demonetization and whatever the fuck Simian Jimmy is doing
"We're all just one bad day away." - Joker
killing joke 2016 yes?
I really appreciated the dramatic irony in Fletcher's impossible standards: The types of music in which he specializes were invented to be fluid and prone to improvisation, and yet he won't accept anything other than perfect adherence to what's on the sheet.
theres different kinds of jazz, not everyone believes that jazz from a sheet is "real" jazz, but its all jazz
We often root for heroes as kids and sympathise with the villain as adults, so you know you’ve made a great sympathetic villain like Zuko when you understand him as a kid aswell
not me i always favored the villains or at least, the darker characters seen as psycho evil (but not?) dangerous insane damaged goods loser etc etc.
You are forgetting all the edgy kids who say they like villains to seem quirky :'D
@@rossmcdonagh1554
Except Zuko is not edgy. He is serrated.
*root
*heroes, not hero’s. Hero’s is possessive, heroes is the proper spelling in this context.
This made me realize
most Ghibli Films have conflicts but doesn't really have a Villain
Almost everyone has some reason to be sympathetic towards them and they still manage to write incredibly compelling stories
except castle in the sky
"haha yes I will use the power of laputa to conquer the world because... reasons!"
@@nathanielwindsor7679 Ill put my hand up and admit im no aficionado of the Ghibli films :') I'll take you word for it and do some... reasearch ? :'D
Its always seemed to me that ghibli movies are more about overcoming inner conflict and the hardships of life than fighting another person. To me they feel like pixar for adults.
@@m_winewood I agree from what I've seen the endings are often much less important to the story than the pivotal moments of character development along the way
Zuko is not a villain, but an antagonist (not evil, just misguided and with interests opposed to those of the protagonist), the villain in the story is Ozai
Zuko works as the villain for Season 1 atleast.
I always thought of Zuko more as a Byronic hero. Iroh’s presence always made me root for Zuko even if he’s meant to be the antagonist at the beginning. The show isn’t really structured as a single narrative anyway. Zuko has his own narrative of which he is the protagonist even to the viewer while Azula falls directly as the antagonist in Aang’s personal narrative, Zuko’s personal narrative, and the overarching narrative of the world’s struggle against the fire nation. As the three narratives converge in the back end of the show Zuko is a clear cut protagonist aiding in the defeat of Ozai and Azula as well as offering redemption for some of Katara’s more controversial decisions made out of ignorance in the final season. I think start to finish Zuko is painted as a protagonist in some light which is why I can classify him as a Byronic hero.
He starts as a villain but becomes a hero. He realizes the flaws of his outlook and changes.
That’s what’s known as a reformed villain.
"sometimes the people we hate the most are the ones we fooled ourselves into loving" thats deep asf
Jet Noises*
thomas edison for me
"Childhood is when idolise batman, Adulthood is when you realise cheese is expensive"
-A comment I've read somewhere.
yet milk is so cheap?
@@joenathan8594 yes
@@joenathan8594 milk is just lazy cheese
Wait, cheese is expensive? Fuuuuu
yea
An antagonist is not necessarily evil, but just opposes the ideologies of the protagonist.
Edgelord
@@palereaper He just said the definition of an antagonist,he ins't a edgelord
@@nbanextlegend7497 i disagree
@sayunoqué hate? all I did was call them an edgelord
@sayunoqué that’s what you think
I absolutely love that an 8-bit cover of “Sympathy for the Devil” is playing in the background of the portion on evil
I went to the comments looking for this exact comment and I’m glad someone else noticed it :)
also at 21:00 the "whiteroom" cover goes hard too
convinced avatar was made solely for video essay youtubers
Now say this to twitter's cancel culture LOL
Truth. I've seen people cancelling fictional villains LOL.
@@ladyvader2648 NO please😂
@Super Crackers apology video
@Super Crackers Well, Mongols are the exception; maybe he'll dig himself out of his own grave and start T-posing in front of Twitter HQ.
No esperaba verte aca Hyurno
"My Father used to tell me that Azula was born lucky and that I was lucky to be born"
That line hit me hard when I first watched
@@minecraftveteranyoda4476 Yeah, it is a great line. It does so much for Zuko, Azula and Ozai. Like it sets up the kind of person Ozai is even more so and also lets us know Azula is powerful while also showing how tragic Zuko's life is.
Azula: “My own mother called me a monster! She was right of course, but it still hurt!”
@@Flome810 I mean if we are doing Avatar quotes we will be here all day.
@@TheZebbga Then I better go ask uncle iroh to make some jasmine tea
This is why I love the Kobra Kai show. It took characters from a classic "good vs bad" movie in the 80s and explored how the characters' stories were much more complex than what was originally shown on the surface.
Excellent example
“The difference between a hero & a villain is how they respond to pain.”
I'm surprised you didn't mention how in Megamind, the "villain protagonist" tried to create a hero after the last one died, purely because if he didn't have a hero to fight, his life was effectively meaningless.
Same I was also surprised
memento mori
Morality is at its very core is quite objective. It comes from respect for another's existence.
That same movie treats nature vs nurture, and how a good person can be pushed to become a "villain" despite not being what would birng them happiness while a person with and unremarkable sense of justice is forced to become the hero from the weight of expectations
it be like that sometimes
I Heard somewhere about this topic it said " *The world treated Joker badly so he decided to treat it the same The world treated Batman badly so he decided that no one will be treated like he was* "
Sadly for Batman, by protecting Society you help it destroying lives.
Most of us wish we were like batman, but we know that we are the joker
@@Graveyard55 nobody wants to be either
batman is a brooding, sad, self destructive man, willing to give up everything to protect the innocent and complete the mission. he does this so often that his own sidekicks, the people he's fought by, don't want to be like him, some of them even hate him. if you see batman for the symbol he is, anyone would want to be him, but if you see batman for the person he is, nobody wants to be him.
the joker is a lunatic that kills for chaos and attention. all he wants is for batman to break his sense of morality and kill him. i don't care how insane you think you are, nobody wants to bring someone down by their own death. the joker you're talking about isn't the joker you want to be like, the joker you're thinking of is, though.
@@jockeyfield1954
Peach.
Pog
"Monsters are born too big, too strong, too heavy. They are not evil by choice. That is their tragedy." - Ishiro Honda.
54 likes, goes well with the fact that Ishiro Honda said this quote in 1954. The year of Godzilla's birth
It's not a tragedy to us.
@@nevaehhamilton3493 how is getting your entire neighborhood wiped out by gojira's atomic breath not a tragedy ?
Tbf, Godzilla was fine until mankind dropped atomic bombs on his habitat. Godzilla attacking mankind was an act of rage and revenge in most versions.
@@justasoulsfan9805
Doesn't he feed off nuclear radiation?
@@soysource3218 Yes, once he was mutated, nuclear energy became his fuel. Before, he was just a normal semi- aquatic dinosaur which fed on fish.
I'm here because there was a dude on a couch, and he picked this video to watch.
same
same
same
"See, now you respect me. Because I'm a threat"
I've been doing TH-cam for a decade now and my god is that line ever appropriate for some of the people in this line of work. Some people look at TH-cam as such a numbers game that they won't give you the time of day until they believe you're within striking distance of them
I'm not talking about when a TH-camr doesn't reply to another one, everyone gets too busy. I can't reply to every message I get. I'm talking about when someone is actively dismissive to a smaller TH-camr until they're the same size, then suddenly pretend like they were friends. You wouldn't believe how many people suddenly wanted to pretend like they were always great to me as soon as I took off.
You know about the maker of Bayonetta? It's that way for a reason and it should be that way because it forces people to become notorious as well. People who have a lower value than somebody else should not waste the higher-ups time unless the higher up is ok with it
@@mikeyvesperlick6982 People do not have lower value because they have less career success. I'm the same man as I was before I got big on TH-cam, and I'm proud of who I am.
I absolutely refuse to believe that I'm better than someone just because my channel is bigger. It's an incredibly immoral and short sighted way to judge someone. Judge them by the content of their character, not their popularity or material wealth.
@@MahDryBread The latter statement moreover applies to monarchs and masters of their useful craft as in nutritional science, engineering, agricultural knowledge, etc, but you only have more subs than others because you either played your cards better, have played more, or the fact that you have played at all.
@@MahDryBread You know that it is hard to argue that a lack of action is the ultimate sin right
@@MahDryBread Holy shit I was just watching one of your videos when I got this in my notifications.
Many believe Yin and Yang is good vs evil.
When in reality, it is Order vs Chaos
In a way it's *also* good vs. evil, and light vs. dark, and water vs. fire, and soft vs. tough. It is the ultimate embodiment of thing needing opposites to exist. Without a concept of darkness, light would be meaningless.
Very few people really regard it in either of those manners actually. It's more about dualism, the concept of Yin needing Yang and vice versa.
In fact, Yin is characteristic of femininity and negativity, and Yang is characteristic of masculinity and positivity.
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nice,
It represents the bad in the good and the good in the bad
"in reality"
the transformation of the main character into the hero is incredible, but the transformation of the antagonist into the villan and how relatable it can be is frightening
Chigur is such an interesting and phenomenally crafted villain and No Country for Old Men has left me feeling like no movie has before
i found him so completely irregular. not like in a way where he is random, but in a way it’s impossible to understand his mentality from a real world and rational perspective.
I absolutely did not have any empathy for him, considering the fact that i am not a deranged psychopath, but yeah he was a really good villain
Book's good too
5:13 "there's no doubt that Zuko is the one who suffered the most in the serie."
Cabbage man: hold my cabbages.
Oh no poor guy
Got me cracking up💀
@George Zhang I-🤣
Aang had his entire tribe killed
@@elevate5731 Aang Is a cabbage destroyer and he deserved it
"Villains are a necessary evil."
Shows a picture of Leafy's banner
But hey that’s just a theory a game theory.
Well I'm disappointed he didn't mention Ice king from Adventure time in this video
@@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234 It’s funny how we as a kids just think he is just a stupid villain who is there just for laughs and giggles... until we find out about his past. It’s pretty smart of the creator, kids are watching and we grow up along side the characters while learning one by one on why they act this way.
@@giornogiovanna5214 forgot the very necessary comma there, sir.
@@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234 don’t forget mega mind, it’s a kids movie but it shows how there needs to be balance with a villain and hero.
The fact that actual phsyciatrists analyzed 400 film characters is amazing.
Ive rewatched this video more times than i can count, truly one of the best video essays ever made on youtube
Media was "worried" Joker will have violents acts during screen plays... Fun Fact: Frozen 2 had more violent act during screen play than Joker
That's because nobody could let that movie fucking go.
okay but frozen didn't have a guy getting his brains blown out
@@LoydAvenheart there were machete attacks in a showing of frozen 2 tho
@@LoydAvenheart that's only because I didnt have to suffer thorough it with you.
@@Gr3nadgr3gory lmao
"villains are made not born"
"heroes are only good if you watch from his point of view,watch the villains point of view and you will understand him more"
@Shinra Tensei
So we should understand the POV from villains like these:
th-cam.com/video/15J39c0U9bc/w-d-xo.html 4:20
th-cam.com/video/ZMeKFH5ZbRo/w-d-xo.html
Thats bullshit
They always are trying to kill people only cuz they wanna
@@LaloSalamancaGaming42069 no
@@LaloSalamancaGaming42069 th-cam.com/video/YzfUj-m2I6I/w-d-xo.html
@@hopingstare8980 yes they do
“we are free to choose our own antagonist based on our beliefs and attitudes of the world” - that hits so hard.
By far, one of the best videos on TH-cam. I just love videos were the focus is lost, but the same time keeps you hook the entire way to the end.
One villain I'll never feel sympathy for is TH-cam...
yea but thats a different kind of villain :p
Media in general tbh... They show themselves as the hero while they're the worst of villains...
Twitch robbed me of a lot of money, so I personally dislike them more. But YT has done shit to me even, and it's getting worse as time goes on.
It’s faceless and inhuman.
Top 5 most evil Anime Villians ever
“Everyone has a time bomb cleverly hidden in their patience”
That and “Hi, Zuko here,”
Having been a patient before, I am now incredibly concerned there's a bomb in me somewhere.
@@thepepperronin6845 Underrated Comment
Quotes are magical
Is this quote from a show or something or not
I think feeling empathy for the villain is a big proof of high empathy
Especially one who's harmed you. It's something I fail at.
@@longhairdontcare122
Forgiveness is the path of maturity.
And also big proof of maturity.
always been one of my favorite channels, Lemon these videos are amazing and helps me show people our generations view on things because truly your insights are so relateable and it helps me discover new things to watch!
"man vs society"
HE SAID IT, HE SAID THE THING
*insert Seinfeld reference*
he said it
RISE
BOTTOM TEXT
WOKE AF
exactly
U make song why u hear
Here*
Man I love your music
Edits are fire
@@mrspanakovlakas3310 they don’t make music they promote stupid
Quite frankly you make the best content on TH-cam. How you present information is unlike any other channel.
i've watched this so many times and this always always tears me up. thanks for being such a great storyteller.
"I'm the Joker baby"
-the Joker baby
I'm da joka babee
-saltydkdan
Im d jok bab
i d jk bb
@@CuackTheDucks idjb
He did NOT say that
Imagine how kickass this dudes presentations were in school
He said he was a try hard in school, so probably pretty good.
truee
Probably more authentic than good
The thing that gets me is the big words. That’s why I love his content so much
That video is pure ART. The montage, the transistions, the way each point is captivating, the end. Bro you are so good
I remember this video as a turning point in Emperor Lemon's career, which is an incredible oddity, as in how he went from making YTPs to rants about his YTP career to an incredibly successful, trendsetting genre of cinematized thesis'. Truly, EmpLemon is one of a kind.
"I'm just like you, Reiner"
finally someone said it
Rainer mit AI ganz wichtig
Ah yes
@@slyfox466 Haider etzala überall am Start?!?
@@slyfox466 Etzala rügg mal n stügg!
Guter Geschmack, 10/10 Ofnekäse. Dadsächlich sogar
Probably my favourite version of yin and yang in fiction is Batman and joker: both had 1 bad day, both used it as motivation, one for evil, one for good.
Well the Joker literally said that Batman completes him
They complete each other
One For Chaos, One for order
Not necessarily good or evil
actually, batman's direct opposite is killer moth. many people forget that killer moth is actually the yin to batman's yang since he's a bit of a joke character from the silver age of comics while joker is from the gruesome golden age
Literally they are. Both of them are completely insane but they are yet completely different people and they turned out completely different
This is probably one of my favorite video essays of all time. You went above and beyond to describe why villains are the way they are, and it shows greatly with the best video and sound ending for a TH-cam video. The end of the video made me tear up a bit. It is probably the most relatable perspective men in society face, and it's finally becoming more noticeable.
Honestly this is one of my favorite video essays because it’s so well made, and passionate. I come back to rewatch this video whenever I need inspiration for my own creative writing.
"Good is a point of view, Anakin"- psychopathic killer, beloved politician, Sheeve Palpatine
What makes this even better is that Palpatine didn't make Anakin turn into Darth Vader. He simply showed Anakin the door, and Anakin willingly walked through
Interestingly enough, because Ankain didn't kill Padme, and by the time he killed Obi- wan they weren't close, and because u have to kill someone close to u to become a sith, Anakin was never a true sith lord
@@darthdarkborg3857 Very true indeed
Lol I'm such a ner
Nerd
This is why I love villains! Everything mentioned is spot on! Maybe this is the reason why I love villains because they think they are protagonists of their own story.
This make anime villian in both akamegakill and MHA
If you like villains because of that, you should look about Megatron or some of the Decepticons in the IDW Transformers comics
@@kingawesome5219 Not just them! Magneto, Dr. Doom, and Mr. Freeze are just a few villains that I can think of right now! This may be why I always considered whenever they said "YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ME!"
@@UkieKooki What was Dr Doom about?
@@kingawesome5219 There's this comic about Doom's tragic history because his mother is a witch and she sold her soul to Mephisto, the literal devil in Marvel, so he learns both science and magic during his adult years. After obtaining the suit of armor, he returned to Latveria, his home country, and created a resistance because the ruler of the country is making everyone poor while he becomes richer from their expense. After overthrowing the ruler, Doom became Latveria's new ruler and made the country into a paradise of prosperity, freedom, and security. But Doom still remembers his mother and so he went on a mission to try and save his mother so he tries to create portals in order to go to Mephisto's realm and save his mother. Doom challenges Mephisto and he accepts but it came with a price. Whenever Mephisto defeats Doom, his people will slowly hate him and fear him. So stubborn as Doom is, he gets defeated by Mephisto over and over. Keep in mind that Mephisto is in his strongest when he's in his realm. So Doom enlisted the help of Dr. Strange to save his mother. Doom and Strange succeeded but when Doom's mother entered the mortal realm, she became very evil. With Doom's multiple defeat from Mephisto, Latveria grew to hate him and that's how Doom became an authoritarian dictator in the eyes of his people. I don't want to spoil the whole ending but I really do recommend reading it yourself or watch a youtube video about the comic because it is really good and really sad on Doom's part.
amazing video, saw a tiktok about "looking for something to watch while eating:" and the dude showed this video, so out of curiosity I searched it up, did not regret it, became a patron after watching it. The quality of the video was very good, we need more content like this on the platform! one of the best creators on here fr
I just feel the need to say congratulations for this vieo! The point, the arguments, the editing.... Everything felt perfect and I completeli agree with you, Bravo!
Waluigi is the most relatable villain, everyone has a bit of wah in them.
saying that implies he's a villain at all
@@estlin2001 Well, as Emp talks about with Prince Zuko, we are viewing almost everything in the Mario franchise from Mario's point of view but if we were to view it from Waluigi's perspective, Mario is the real villain.
God can't be a villain
@@thekingdedede I'm not caught up on his lore soo how exactly is he a villain to wah?
@@antoniodunbar1643 Waluigi really isn't a villain, I'd say he's a combination of Prince Zuko and Syndrome, just trying to seek acceptance and appreciation but ultimately gets rejected by the world. "Wah" is also just a sound Waluigi makes and is popular for.
"Evil villains tend to be forgettable."
Palpatine: It's treason, then!
Vader clearly overshadows him in public perception though
@@wspann1967 Yes, but you feel tons of sympathy for Vader. Palps? He's JUST evil. No sad story, no relatable background, no nuance, just unapologetically evil,
@PewDie-Ton EX Legends. That very few have read and are now not canon. For all general audiences, Palps is just evil, while Vader was only like that in A New Hope, in Empire, you learn who he is and in Return, he turns good again, more or less. And the Prequels are all about him and his suffering as Anakin.
Only if you have a charimsatic villain with a fun personality, like you just gave an example of.
TEND to be, not always. There are tons of villains who are just bad. Taking the example of A:tLA, Ozai was just pure bad;no layers no reason, he was just bad.
Your videos are incredibly insightful and entertaining and i honestly struggle to think of anything like them on this platform. Wow good work
This was the first video i watched by Emplemon, i've been hooked with his amazing videos ever since
Honestly, villains are some of my favorite characters, mostly because they have the most fun in any given story.
And if you think about it, TH-cam would consider Emp a villain so...
I agree
yea good villains always make you route for them a little bit
A sure sign of the degeneration of society but it's understandable, villains and anti heroes exhibit flaws and vices which are all too relatable to us given that we're all imperfect.
Rather than idolise perfection and characters with virtues we now continue to seek comfort in relatability for those as imperfect as ourselves.
I mean the villiain can often have more motivation for something than the hero, whose main purpose is just to stop him.
*ahem* Funny Valentine
I've always liked villians more because they always have so much character than the brainless "I'll stop you!" heroes
“Villains are a necessary evil.”
*shows leafy*
😐
Watch a TH-cam video about it or something bro
@Israel100israel he shits on people while playing csgo surf servers
timestamp?
22:50
this was one of the best videos i’ve seen on youtube. usually i get interested in a video like this and then get bored. this kept me engaged throughout the entire video. bravo!!
Damn, what a great video. Everything from your analysis of the psychology of these characters to the music, scripting and the editing were amazing. 10/10 video.
"Those who are heartless, once cared too much..."
~Davy Jones
Dark spyro:agree to disagree.
"Once you realize your mistakes, it turns to acceptance and correctness"
Sounds like something a 13 year old "depressed" white girl has in their Instagram bio
@Henry Crabs the law of the internet, if a philosophy is even mildly dark, it is edgy and dumb
Nope. Wrong.
“Villains are a necessary evil”
*picture of leafy*
I spat out my water
I was scrolling through trying to find someone else that saw it XD
Based
22:49 lol
I caught that too and almost fell out of my chair
rip the leaf
The first time I ever sympathized with a villain was in king fu panda when I heard Tai lungs backstory. He was promised greatness so he spent years of discipline and hard work just for them to tell him "um actually nvm, your not worthy" shit I would be mad too! 😂
Fascinating analysis as always EmpLemon!
I learned a lot today.
Loved the Leafy reference.
"the joker terrifies us not because he kills people, but because he makes us enjoy watching him kill people."
that shit is pure poetry.
Yeah I definitely don't agree, idk maybe I'm just sane
@@arbitarious Youve never seen someone get got in a show or movie and thought "fucking finally, cunt deserved it!"? Joffrey anyone?
This two 👆 are full of it.
@Ddtrdctrdcgrdcgrdc The first one deleted. Duh
@Ddtrdctrdcgrdcgrdc You apparently. 🤷
Emp, seriously, you are one of the biggest quality channels, your comentary videos about taboo things is glorious.
The reason I love villians is because they have a background, and I need to thank you for making this!
same man
Sr Pelo 👀
You know Emp has outdone himself when motherfucking Pelo compliments him without any sort of mockery.
Just genuine admiration for the content.
But damn this video really is good
Ahaha "Tabu"
This is why I love George R R Martin so much. He truly understands how to write heroes, villains, and grey characters. He famously says (originally a Faulkner quote) that "the only thing worth writing about is the human heart in conflict with itself" and I could not agree more. The conflict of human heart is what drives all great characters. The way he describes writing his characters is as enlightening as this video is, I highly recommend anyone interested to watch some interviews where he talks about morality and character writing.
wow this video was truly incredible, thank you.
“Villains are a necessary evil” *shows picture of leafy*
Tell that to David in The Last of Us
idubbbz and ethan probably woudn't be the same if he hadn't existed, also keem
@Mercury okay buddy
Yes that sure did happen in the video.
@@chrisye1733 But it was entertaining as hell with actual drama not just TH-camrs being revealed to be pedophiles and fake conflicts or breakups that no one gives a shit about
What a satisfying video
I would call you a fortnite nerd, but 77 holds a special place in my heart
Fortnite nerd
Not one of his best, but still good.
tbh
Agreed
This is one of my most favourite videos so much work was put into this
this is one of those youtube videos that go so in depth that it makes all of social media look worse.
Not even joking, One of the best youtube videos ive ever watched.
Everybody's talking about Zuko but don't forget Azula. All the wanted was to be loved, and instead her father put too much on her shoulders. She thought her mother saw her as a monster and her friends betrayed her. And all of that led down to a mental breakdown.
She believed in her father's path. She controlled people around her with Horror. She would either be the Power Maniac or Lunatic. And we all se she turned out to be a lunatic.
Azula is one of the pure evils in the ATLA with his father Ozai. It's no surprise we see her mental breaks down since she didn't have a strong will and mind like her father.
Sozin was Chad. He faced against Avatar Roku for his ideals. Azula never had to make such a choice to make her strong. So she become a "Virgin". But Zuko, he always made choices that have harsh consequences which made him a Chad.
Azula is the little girl the one who you want to teach a lesson. Because you want her to reach a right path.
Let's not forget that Azula is also a victim of Ozai and like Zuko at the start of atla, only wanted approval from the person they "looked up to". Maybe if Azula had her own Uncle Iroh she would've gone on the right path.
Watch The Phycology of Azula on TH-cam bruh it literally explains things so well to me
Lmao wtf? All she wanted was to be loved? Absolutely fucking not. She wanted to rule and dominate. She wanted to be feared. Fuck outta here with that "oh she's just misunderstood" bullshit. Zuko was the misunderstood villain who had a redemption. Azula is, has always been, and always will be a consummate power-hungry villain
"What exactly is evil?"
EVERY VILLAIN IS LEMONS!!!
still can't believe dc ripped off the origin story of red hood from barnacle man
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Straight facts.
New to this channel and absolutely love it.
Joker is one of my favourite movies and the That's Life scene is perfect
Loved your use of Sympathy for the Devil and Rock'n Roll Part 2.
The way the media acted towards Joker (2019) made the actual movie so much better. The elite will gleefully watch an entire nation burn to the ground, but loses their shit when even a hint of animosity is directed their way.
Like some black influencer celebrity encouraging the Black Lives Matter protesters to riot, then when the mob reached his street he started tweeting for "these animals to get the hell out". Most gratifying media of that year.
Simple and accurate, the truth.
Its even more funny because the Joker is a socialist wet dream revenge film.
Joker is overrated, it is not as insightful or transformative as it pretends to be when you look at its writing and story. And i personally believe that parasite, the movie that won the Oscar that year was a far better social critique and a better movie in general. However i will say that Joaquin Phoenix's acting was an amazing accomplishment and a career high.
@@astrospect The elites are not socialist. They are soulless capitalists carrying a face of progressivism in order to subdue the public
“Villains are a necessary evil”
Literally and figuratively.
i dont understand what figuratively means in this context
Seeing Dr. Bright comes from an organization that exposes itself to horrible and wonderful things we as humanity could get used to, but by purpose is kept hidden from the world, being the bad guy is easy to assume or throw away in that position.
Syv is right, it's already literal.
Bless Your Soul
topkek :3
This is an amazing video, the perspectives you enlighten me with is unreal.
I’m slowly realizing all the amazing videos I’ve remembered watching throughout the years are mostly yours, notably your never ever video about Hungrybox and Nascar video about that track in Alabama, and my respect has grown even more when finding out this one was you too 😂
"as much as we hate them, villain's are a necessary evil"
being said as leafy pans across the screen
is the funniest shit I have seen
Batman would have to beat up innocent bystanders or something. Wouldn't be a demand for a super anything lol, and thus people would take advantage of that (thus the cycle is constantly fluctuating, happens all the time in predator and prey species, happened a bunch with numbers of pirates and merchant ships, and must be similar phenomena/ cycles in business world)
Villains are only necessary because there are other villains
@@Dman9fp Oldschool batman directly killed the really bad guys, he didn't deliver them to the police, and there's also this guy, don't remember what he did or what he's called, but he's got him locked up for life, in a dark cell in a sewer somewhere
batman isn't (wasn't?) always purely good, the end used to justify the means
Couldn't agree with you more.
Lol yeah, caught me of-guard
Your videos are so profound. Consistently blown away by the level of quality.
Couldn’t have said it better myself
Collab maybe?
Too bad its probably demonetized as soon as he uploads it
Yeah uncle maybe you should consider I think the same of you. Ur content is great I love both of ur channels.
Uncle Al same with yours
Man, i've looking this video for months, i'm relief that i could finally found it!
I love this vid, hope u doin' good
This video is a masterpiece. Thank you !
This reminds me of Batman the animated series. Many villains were victims, the cartoon shows this, acknowledges this situation sucks and shouldn't happen but never condones their villainous actions. Just because baby doll can't have a career (or even a life outside of harassment) that's not justification to threaten the lives of others.
There's one persistent moral over the series- "just because you're a victim doesn't give you the right to victimize others"
Except The Joker, who was always a violent prick who wasn’t never sympathetic ever. Just a reminder why Unsympathetic villains are also fun because he’s the best villain in the show.
@@colorlover7605 ok 2 persistent morals: the second one is sometimes people are just dicks
@@colorlover7605 I wouldn't say Joker is the best villain in the show just because he's a violent prick, although that is a really fun part of his character. I always thought it was his mystery. We don't know who he is, where he came from, or why he does what he does. I think that's why Joker is still popular today because he always has a different identity.
@@colorlover7605 yea the killing joke really made me see how good joker was as a villain
To be fair tragic Joker is cool and in my option shows the chaos of the Joker better but not as good as the pure evil Jokers. It in my option, Joker being pure evil makes him more fun.
Honestly Zuko isn’t, and never was, the villain. He is simply the antagonist of the story, the conflict, the opposing force against aang. Similarly, L or Near in death note, where Yagami Light may have been the protagonist, but protagonist does not mean hero. Light was what would be considered the villain if L or near were the protagonists, but they weren’t.
Edit: ok so everyone is saying that light isn’t exactly a villain, more anti-hero, but I think he’s more an anti-villain. Whether his actions ultimately helped humanity is debatable, however at a surface level he is DEFINITELY a villain. However light LITERALLY believes that he is a GOD so therefore, anti-villain. Btw this comment was a complete and utter brain dump, so in my rush of typing I just found it easier to refer to him as a villain lol. Also be free to keep debating/sharing ur opinions in the replies, I quite enjoy talking abt this kind of stuff lol.
I think Light was unquestionably still the villain despite being the protagonist. Similar to Arthur Fleck from Joker or almost any GTA protagonist.
@@l.pricetag.5207 exactly, he’s a ‘villain’ , yet is the protagonist
Thank you i was thinking the exact same
Protagonist just means "leading character" aka MC. Any protag can be a villain, therefore Light WAS the villain.
@@zz7073but you always have to differentiate between the two uses of villain. The one just for stories for the antagonist like zuko and the normal meaning of villain as in a despicable horrible person like light yagami
I like how you always end with a fun happy clip, appreciate ya
I used to this rewatch this video often because of the structured format and smooth transitions for each topic.
R.I.P MADVILLIAN YOU WILL BE MISSED
Madvillian are DOOM and Mad Lib
Mad Lib is still alive
RIP DOOM
🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
It’s a tragedy for the ages, RIP MF Doom
RIP MF DOOM
MF DOOM
Thought this was referring to the news about The Villain. RIP MF DOOM😞😞
Same
May he Rest In Peace 💔🕊
Wait he DIED?!
The illest villain, just remember all caps when you spell the man's name. RIP DOOM, Subroc and Malachi Ezekiel
@@chill6455 his death was announced yesterday. he died on October 31st
This is an incredibly well edited and informative video! And I 100% believe it should have more love than it does.
This was an excellent video. Really well thought out and put together