TRAIL SABOTAGE CAUGHT IN THE ACT

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 พ.ค. 2020
  • Hi! Im Nathansbiking, in this video i was going out for my daily ride when i realized the trail which is now called "WHERE'S MY SHOVEL" hadn't been wrecked yet. It was getting wrecked everyday so when i rode up and realized it hadn't, i knew i was bound to catch the people responsible........
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  • @NathansBiking
    @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว +427

    QUICK UPDATE / COMMON QUESTIONS
    New Tutorial video : th-cam.com/video/bqDoyeMTOPo/w-d-xo.html
    Watch this new video for more information on the trail and the event!!!!
    th-cam.com/video/9VZ7LurZD4U/w-d-xo.html
    First of all thank you so much for all the positivity towards this video of me.
    Common questions:
    I have permission from the owners
    For those of you interested "The landowners said they were aware of informal use of the wood by local mountain bikers, who had "always behaved responsibly", and were looking to allow them formal access.
    www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-52660528
    The women were given a warning by the police.
    Instagram is @nathansbiking

    • @callmethaw7800
      @callmethaw7800 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I know its an older video, but its a good one.

    • @DaveCM
      @DaveCM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      When I was a police officer, there was a street that dead ended at a gate that led to a dirt road that was city property. People rode around the gate and down the dirt road to some trails they have made a very long time ago. I was called because someone put a wire across the trail they used to get around the gate. If they hadn't been lucky to spot it, someone could have been killed as it was right about neck height. Numerous times, lots of tacks and nails were found in the trail also. I was sure it was the homeowner at the end of the road, but couldn't prove it. He hated them riding through there even though they never went onto his property. Some people are just angry and want to find excuses to justify their anger.

    • @Paul9
      @Paul9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      We don’t really know which other bikers they’ve encountered in the past who might not ride as responsibly as yourself. Obviously leaving obstructions isn’t the answer.
      I think the issue is there are some really thoughtless mountain bikers out there. We have a gang of obese middle aged chaps who insist on blasting down our local footpaths every week without a care for anyone, not a shared trail, clearly marked as a footpath with ‘no mountain biking’ signs. There have been a few close calls with people, I’d hate to think of the damage they’d cause to a child or dog if they hit them at full pelt. I mountain bike myself and as long as you ride with the expectation that there could be a walker on a shared trail it’s all good.

    • @fayleya3865
      @fayleya3865 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      If you have permission from the owners, then why did you tell them that you did not have permission from the land owner?

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      @@fayleya3865 Try explaining that you have unofficial permission from the land owners to two angry women 👍🏻

  • @dream_up_tomorrow
    @dream_up_tomorrow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +474

    When I was 17, I hit a concrete parking block while riding down a steep trail in the valleys of Toronto. It had been placed on the trail by some like minded people as those ladies. I'm 46 now and still dealing with the back issues. Good job.

    • @fluchtigziege3202
      @fluchtigziege3202 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      anyone that does such things deserves to be strung up, people have had their neck broken and even decapitated by these booby traps

    • @NoZenith
      @NoZenith 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I live in the states and that kind of crap is even more blatant here I feel. Somebody somewhere probably thinks it served you right and that is such a bullshiter mentality. This has kept me away from enjoying public spaces.
      I really hope this issue you have now never gets any worse. Sorry that happened to you man. 😔

    • @carmineredd1198
      @carmineredd1198 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      toronto is where anthony camps , in yorkville by the rec center

    • @dangerous8333
      @dangerous8333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      This is why I yell and scream at them. I don't have a polite discussion for an hour.

    • @dangerous8333
      @dangerous8333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@NoZenith That sucks man where do you live? I live in Northern California and we have trails that hikers can't really get to thankfully.

  • @N0rmandy
    @N0rmandy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +232

    "This is a massive risk"
    "We know, that's the point"
    Oh boy they admitted to doing actual illegal shit

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Yeah I'm glad you noticed that !

    • @KstewLover1
      @KstewLover1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@NathansBiking Yeah I'm pretty sure that shits illegal. You should show the cops in case people do get hurt on the trail they know who to send the bill too.

    • @Leavon
      @Leavon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They can completely destroy the trail if they chose it's their property and the cyclist is trespassing and has no right to be there. Get your facts straight idiot.

    • @KstewLover1
      @KstewLover1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@Leavon the problem is we don’t know if they are just saying it or if it’s actually their property

    • @epicktroll7285
      @epicktroll7285 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@KstewLover1 its not there land he explained that he had the right from the land owners and that they were baned for trespassing

  • @miket17uk
    @miket17uk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +345

    I love it when she says 'damn bicycle'! Meanwhile she's probably driving a 4×4 to the shop everyday to buy the Telegraph and letting her dogs shit everywhere. These people live in another world.

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Lmao!

    • @raymondo162
      @raymondo162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      RAMBLERS = gits

    • @TaiChiGhost
      @TaiChiGhost 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I only wish they did!

    • @dangerous8333
      @dangerous8333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Karen's don't drive 4x4s.
      They drive RAV4s and minivans.

    • @allanv6620
      @allanv6620 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I agree with your comment except for the fact she is most probably a Guardian reader!

  • @jmdelapp
    @jmdelapp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Someone put a cable across a trail near my house a few years ago. A mountain biker hit it and was injured. The trail vandal ended up going to jail. He got like a three month sentence.

    • @LadyAnTMusic
      @LadyAnTMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I found barbed wire across a trail once. I removed it, but can you imagine what could have happen, brr

    • @jmdelapp
      @jmdelapp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@LadyAnTMusic A friend of mine had to have his nose sewed back on after hitting a strand of barbed wire that someone strung across a trail.

    • @LadyAnTMusic
      @LadyAnTMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@jmdelapp djeez! Thats crazy... Some ppl are just such stupid a-holes

    • @user-ef4gf7rr9r
      @user-ef4gf7rr9r 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      People do it on motocross trails as well. It will take your head off. If you watch WWII films, you'll see some of the Jeeps have poles mounted on them to protect from just that kind of deadly trap.

    • @rosannegrimball4970
      @rosannegrimball4970 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      3 months is not long enough. Obviously, there was malicious intent behind the act.

  • @MRFUCKOFF202
    @MRFUCKOFF202 4 ปีที่แล้ว +829

    Didn't know Karens could be found outside of a customer service environment

    • @leonsoper2105
      @leonsoper2105 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Aha

    • @beatbox9985
      @beatbox9985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      They are everywhere they vote woke and destroy everything you love

    • @thehatetank9057
      @thehatetank9057 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I didn’t realize we were exporting Karens from the states.

    • @DaveCM
      @DaveCM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@beatbox9985 "vote woke and destroy everything"? Can you explain that?

    • @beatbox9985
      @beatbox9985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@DaveCM I would but comedy has been cancelled because it offends feelings

  • @alpd7638
    @alpd7638 4 ปีที่แล้ว +777

    So according to their logic - if you have an accident and hurt them then you go to prison for manslaughter. But...if you have an accident because you ran into one of the booby traps they deliberately put in the way in order to cause you harm then that is also your fault!
    The police should be charging these two idiots

    • @messagedeleted1922
      @messagedeleted1922 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      This has happened on Vancouver's North shore. Karen almost looked exactly the same no less. And they do get charged. Its an attempt to cause bodily harm.

    • @mikee8244
      @mikee8244 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Fantastic points.

    • @mikee8244
      @mikee8244 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@messagedeleted1922 Good they will kill someone sooner or later, and fyi I'm over 51% sure a British Karen is a Sharon. Don't quote me though, eh. .
      Have a good un.

    • @teslatacos9806
      @teslatacos9806 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Not only that, but they too are most likely trespassing without the land owners permission, and also making alteration to the landscape. So everything they accuse Nathan of doing, they are doing too, but even worse because they are trying to cause harm to mountain bikers and hes not trying to harm anyone.. LUL hypocrites!

    • @areyoustupid.....
      @areyoustupid..... 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mikee8244 Karen is a Karen. Sharon's can be fun in my experience!😘

  • @jeffnarum1373
    @jeffnarum1373 2 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    Branches or stick crossing a trail is the international trail marker for Karren Ahead.

    • @martinalberter6369
      @martinalberter6369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I was wondering who was doing it in my local woods in Germany, I thought it was official.

    • @tastindaganja
      @tastindaganja 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ERRR, i realy hate "do gooder' Karens of the world so mucch! their literally the worse passive agressive bully spinsters with literally nothing better to do with there lives than to enforce their missery and dried up fannys on the world.....SO sad

    • @tastindaganja
      @tastindaganja 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      LOL so the accidental death through your actions of riding a bike ...- compared to the PRE MEDITATED ACT OF SETTING TRAPS TO PURPOSLEY INJURE ? KILL ?

    • @jeffnarum1373
      @jeffnarum1373 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tastindaganja all Karen's are well trained to "Stick to Stop" not to "Stick to Kill"

  • @Comicsluvr
    @Comicsluvr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    Props to you for your self-control. People here in America are just learning that you can't be charged with assault when you're standing ten feet away. If you record the other person approaching you, that's the game for them...they're guilty. I'm sorry that people like this can disrupt such a basic a wholesome act as riding a bike.

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Thank you ! They got a warning from the police.

    • @jmccOutdoors
      @jmccOutdoors 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wasn’t he trespassing ? If so he was in the wrong all the way

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Nope I wasn't :)

    • @DanceySteveYNWA
      @DanceySteveYNWA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pretty sure he was referring to the Covid proximity rules, nothing to do with potential assault cases.

    • @readhistory2023
      @readhistory2023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Someone approaching you doesn't violate any laws, not even under the CV mandates. It's who makes the first aggressive move, including throwing a fake punch. Been there done that and the guy who threw the fake punch went to jail for assault, not me. Get the confrontation on film otherwise it becomes he said vs he said and then it's a flip of the coin legally.

  • @rayhaanf
    @rayhaanf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +783

    Fair play to you for staying so calm. That was very impressive.

    • @jojodapogi
      @jojodapogi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      if i was you ill just kick his butt out .he dont own the land.so he gfot no right to say anything to you bro..

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      I have permission from the land owners 😜

    • @carlmiller2603
      @carlmiller2603 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@NathansBiking Where is the track exactly. I would love to visit. Map Coordinates or What3Words

    • @jwright4222
      @jwright4222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's easy to stay calm when you are filming yourself 😅

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@jwright4222 doesn't change a thing :) just how I've been brought up

  • @TH3TIMP5
    @TH3TIMP5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    "I know the law!" Then you should also know that you could go to prison for trying to injure someone 👀

    • @mikeznel6048
      @mikeznel6048 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You don't go to prison for trying to hurt someone in this manner... You go to prison if you're convicted of a crime that would be bodily injury due to one's actions...

    • @davidcolin6519
      @davidcolin6519 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@mikeznel6048 It does depend on the crime being committed. Deliberately setting a trap which could reasonably and foreseeably cause injury or death is a criminal act and carries a custodial sentence.

    • @erisgh0sted961
      @erisgh0sted961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mikeznel6048 yeah, if someone gets hurt. Intentionally hurting someone, or setting them up to get hurt will land you in jail.

    • @eleazarhepburn6618
      @eleazarhepburn6618 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Very right because she put in the sticks in the thingy to stop him from riding for the end of day that would be causing intentional harm to a person so she's in the wrong he's only doing that but he did well for keeping his cool and just didn't mean staying cool well done

    • @bigdogbob845
      @bigdogbob845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      TH3, yes it is a crime it's called Called Criminal Mischief, and these "Karens" are what is wrong with the world today, Mind your own Business .

  • @pennypackmtb2542
    @pennypackmtb2542 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    I too service trails and have been confronted by people who feel they are more entitled than I to use the trails. They do the same stuff. I have learned they can not sabotage or block trails legally. It can be considered criminal mischief unless they have authorized permission from the land owner to do so. Even if they have it must be done with signage and in a safe manner.

    • @Penguin_of_Death
      @Penguin_of_Death 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Pennypack MTB What's a criminal mastiff? Is that like a supervillain dog?

    • @pennypackmtb2542
      @pennypackmtb2542 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Penguin_of_Death I love spell correct. Thanks for the heads up. There was a dog in the video, but not a mastiff and it wasn't doing anything criminal.

    • @unkulwilly
      @unkulwilly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      i come across people walking along the trails all the time when i ride. I slow down and ask politely to pass. the looks i get from them are that of pure entertainment, like how dare I ask them to move over. I tried explaining to these jerks that foot traffic does not make those trails, bikes do. so if they're butt hurt about people riding up on them maybe they should stay on the paved paths.

    • @pennypackmtb2542
      @pennypackmtb2542 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Shadow Of Wiggin I've run into that also. Using my smart phone I've checked boundaries and then invited them to call law enforcement. I've also informed those that think because they own land next to public space, that they do not own it and have no personal rights to the area or can trespass anyone off of it.

    • @Primalxbeast
      @Primalxbeast 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@unkulwilly I've been on plenty of nature trails where bikes aren't allowed, so bikes aren't necessary for trails to exist if hikers are using them. Parks will often have areas where only hikers are allowed and mixed use trails. Even through random wooded areas there can be walking paths where there aren't any bikers. I don't understand why people wouldn't want to let you pass if you asked politely, and were riding safely, but trails would exist without bikers.

  • @G1NZOU
    @G1NZOU 2 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    "Trespassing" or not, it's illegal for them to deliberately set up dangerous booby traps to harm people that come onto their property or other's property, that's been well established in UK law.
    Even if their claim that you're trespassing was true they're still in the wrong and are on camera admitting it.

    • @Leavon
      @Leavon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Only if there is an established footpath and those are well known and regulated. This is quite obviously not one of those and is being used unlawfully, if the property owner chose to fall trees across the illegal trail they are well within their right to do so. I swear this generation is so full of itself it's beyond pathetic.

    • @G1NZOU
      @G1NZOU 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Leavon incorrect, simply felling trees is one thing but doing so deliberately to block a trail and cause harm to someone coming down it counts as making a trap, which is specifically forbidden under the terms of using reasonable force to remove intruders.
      If they were the landowners which they're not, if they deliberately fell trees and someone ran into said trees onntheirbbike they'd potentially be liable under the Occupiers Liability Act 1984.
      This is not a "this generation" thing, this has been law for decades. Trespass is not a criminal offence. Also, how old do you think I am if you're bringing up age into this argument?
      Secondly this is not "being used unlawfully" as he has permission from the landowner.

    • @yj965
      @yj965 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Shadow Of Wiggin th-cam.com/video/iQljb4m8rNo/w-d-xo.html

    • @thecarlob_007
      @thecarlob_007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Leavon so your wonderful generation thinks it is just fine to deliberately put someone’s health or life at risk because their idea of harmless recreation is “unlawful”? Nice thinking.

    • @retiredcolonel6492
      @retiredcolonel6492 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Leavon I agree. I have property in the mountains and it’s posted. If I see bicyclists on my property they would get introduced to my shotgun. Trespassing is illegal.

  • @THX5000
    @THX5000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +407

    The Men who are lucky enough to be married to these lovely Women must be very happy!

    • @RickyJr46
      @RickyJr46 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Mutts like them shouldn't be off the leash.

    • @Clynikal
      @Clynikal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      I thought one of them was a bloke. There’s a reasonable chance they’re married to each other.

    • @MrBertbox
      @MrBertbox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      These chaps are doing the rest of us a favour, keeping them away from the dating population. Compensation should be paid to them

    • @brickcity9mm896
      @brickcity9mm896 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or dead

    • @ummon995
      @ummon995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Men?

  • @ShuKatashSam
    @ShuKatashSam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +389

    Ah, a Karen. As a MTB'er, we represent the sport, so good behavior like you did was perfect. MTB folks are the most trail maintaining and creating group out there the last few decades.

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      You're exactly right and thank you 🙏

    • @hedgehog3900
      @hedgehog3900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      From a purely naturalistic view the less trails and footpaths there are in the countryside the more natural it is. Creating more trails therefore makes what remains of our countryside less natural. Does maintaining those trails involve mitigating wet weather damage and if so how? Do you repair and block cut corners and if so how? Can you provide recent evidence of this where you ride?

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      If you watch the video "trail building ep2" you'll see exactly what I did

    • @somerandomguywastaken
      @somerandomguywastaken 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@hedgehog3900 as a trail and dirt jumper build, wet weather damage mitigation is half our work

    • @hedgehog3900
      @hedgehog3900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NathansBiking Thank you.

  • @noahzimmermann3010
    @noahzimmermann3010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    the hit markers when you threw the sticks of the trails cracked me up

  • @Proranis
    @Proranis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    i can never imagine becoming a person like that....to just be annoyed that someone else is having fun

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Would be such a bad life

    • @ianross225
      @ianross225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      These are sad people who need to be in padded cells and fed mashed banana so they can’t hurt themselves or anyone else.

    • @samrichards8251
      @samrichards8251 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Very sad life they must live. Full of anger and bitterness

    • @hankhicks1108
      @hankhicks1108 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Obviously you don't own property.

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know I don't ? I have permission to be their though 👍🏻

  • @daveswaymusic
    @daveswaymusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Mate, you handled yourself so well. You're a true gentleman and to be honest I was actually enjoying the trail. Looks like a nice flow in beautiful countryside. Hope you're still riding it

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you ! And yes I go there every once in a while. moved away but still visit

  • @jamesgilbart2672
    @jamesgilbart2672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    They accused you of trespassing, if so, surely those ladies were also trespassing!? Some people appear to think the world is only for them and their dog and don't want to share -especially with cyclists!

  • @TheAaronfarrington
    @TheAaronfarrington 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Well done Nath, it takes alot of self control to act the way you did, I honestly consider you a bit of a legend now.

  • @shaneslad
    @shaneslad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Well done Nathan. Great to see the media coverage of this and that common sense prevailed in the end.

  • @RonnRider
    @RonnRider 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Wow mate, I would've really struggled to stay as calm as you did! Well played my good man!!!!

  • @alanharrington
    @alanharrington 2 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    I'm sure the way you handled the situation had a major influence on the Police and Land Owners response. Brilliantly done; those old bags hung themselves!!

    • @yes-ps2xq
      @yes-ps2xq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Did they actually?

    • @toryhillis3694
      @toryhillis3694 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@yes-ps2xq he means like ruined their chances not suicide

    • @alexanderdefender
      @alexanderdefender 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@yes-ps2xq Figuratively, he filmed their malicious behavior and said he wouldn't come back he just wanted his equipment back. Top notch guy!

    • @TheRealSamPreece
      @TheRealSamPreece 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yes-ps2xq yes, yes

  • @Murderbot2000
    @Murderbot2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    And she talked and talked nonstop, almost without taking a breath, throughout the entire confrontation.

    • @santiagobenites
      @santiagobenites 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That was her guilty conscience, because she got caught in the act.

    • @jamesr5741
      @jamesr5741 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      She was busy deflecting the blame.

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very true

  • @5winder
    @5winder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    "We live here!"... not for long, when he finds that shovel.

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lmao !

    • @crimzikk
      @crimzikk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that's why he was so keen to find it.

    • @keithk888
      @keithk888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lmaoo

  • @laustudie
    @laustudie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This Karen problem has gotten really bad at the trails near my house. Mind you these are official trails. Logs are being thrown on the trail, nails and route arrows are being moved. Honestly i am not sure i;d stay as calm if i were to ever catch these people red handed. These people can basically get you killed or severely handicapped.

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah hopefully you find them 🙏

  • @sergiolandz6056
    @sergiolandz6056 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Man those npc's were quite the bunch eh ?! Good for staying calm and making them even more mad for doing so hahaha.

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah they definitely didn't expect it lmao!

  • @jdc8352
    @jdc8352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    All of the the trails around my place were made by motorcycles and bicycles. Now the "hikers" think it's theirs ..... They NEVER built ANYTHING!!

    • @DaveScottADV
      @DaveScottADV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Listen, they just want to throw their plastic bottles and energy bar wrappers on the ground in peace...

    • @OfficialFedHater
      @OfficialFedHater 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's the most infuriating thing. In my area, they have their own trails where bikes aren't allowed. I like hiking and camping, but we still get people out on our MTB trails, which we don't have many, just walking along.
      Most of them are very nice, but lord help me if any of them get mad at me for coming around a bend fast.
      The MTB trails aren't even as nice or scenic as the hiking trails too so I don't get it.

    • @gilliesiut2332
      @gilliesiut2332 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@OfficialFedHater personally I do both. I walk my dog on the MTB trails because they are much less crowded, but on the same hand I am aware of where I am, listen for approaching bikes, and get out of the way

  • @STR33TFIGHTERz1000
    @STR33TFIGHTERz1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    A proper British argument, to end it properly you should have said “Good day to you”

  • @ifixsprinters
    @ifixsprinters 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Good job staying calm and handling this in a mature manner.

  • @DanTheMan454
    @DanTheMan454 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When I was younger a friend had a track for our quads and dirt bikes on his property and we didn't know that part of it when onto his neighbor's property and instead of saying something he put thin steel wire across the trail and the next time we rode the trail one of my friends died when he hit the wire cutting into his chest, almost cutting him in half. The guy who did it got charged with murder.

  • @michaelmann831
    @michaelmann831 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    “This is a massive risk.”
    “Exactly.”
    bruh

  • @rozza381
    @rozza381 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Great video Nathan. Almost 20 years ago, I lived in the forest of Dean and what some kind bastard was doing there was strong wires across the paths....at neck height. Don't think anyone was ever caught for it though. There are fucking strange people out there mate, stay safe.

    • @jordandurham8951
      @jordandurham8951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, recently someone was stringing barbed wire across trails on the Malvern Hills.

  • @leetlau
    @leetlau 4 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    Well done. You're a credit to self discipline. Any time you want a tour of Whistler or Vancouver trails that's on me

    • @horusgarcia1
      @horusgarcia1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Awesome. I will take this invite anytime.

    • @plusbonus1165
      @plusbonus1165 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@horusgarcia1 Tell him to book me a flight too !
      👍

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It would be any mtb riders dream !

    • @leetlau
      @leetlau 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well travel restrictions are relaxed so we're good to go

  • @murdomyles1878
    @murdomyles1878 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    You handled it so well! Just wondering how old do you have to be to race the Scottish enduro series?

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thanks mate , and I can't remember mate, just have to be 18 to buy tickets

    • @jamesmcarthur9138
      @jamesmcarthur9138 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I've done them last year when I was 15, but u can get somebody to make an account who is 18 to get the entry under ur name

  • @dash0173
    @dash0173 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    today i was riding at a trail system called syncline in washington. it's on a famous cliff called coyote wall for anyone who is interested. as I was climbing, i noticed some oddly placed rocks. went over to check out the rocks and i discovers MANY other oddly placed rocks and it became very obvious that someone had put them there purposefully. I moved all of them, it took me about 5 minutes or less and nobody came down the trail as i was moving the rocks which was good. to put into perspective what the hitting the rocks while riding on coyote wall would potentially mean... about 10-15 feet to the right side of the trail is a 300+ foot drop and when i say "drop" i mean it's LITERALLY a cliff that will give you zero chance to grab something before you fall to your death. the fact that people ACTUALLY care THAT fucking much about stopping mtb'ers from riding there is shocking to me. syncline was found 20-30 years ago by the land owners who happened to love mountain biking so they turned their own land into an amazing biking spot and hikers eventually found it and started hiking there but because the land owners were cool people, they allowed it and word spread because of how great the place is. of course that meant lots of shitty people ended up going there and just assumed hikers had absolute right of way all the time

  • @mikee8244
    @mikee8244 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Nathan, thx for being such a stand up dude. Wasn't rude, put your points across very well. Manslaughter for hitting a dog, um, nope. Not that it wouldn't upset all involved. I guarantee if you were on a fucking horse they wouldn't have said a damn thing.
    How you kept your composure with the john quarry part, hilarious. Well she knows blah blah blah and he's gonna be told. God I bet he hates her.
    Quarry owner-"so someone was riding a mountain bike on a specific trail?"
    Idiot in blue-" yes."
    Quarry owner-" aaaand your point is what exactly?"

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you it means Alot 🙏

  • @darkodarko4954
    @darkodarko4954 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Mad respect for handling this situation like a boss

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much mate ! If you could share the video it would be greatly appreciated I'm trying to grow my TH-cam ! Thanks 🙏

  • @sleepypanda6790
    @sleepypanda6790 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Well done for staying so calm mate, I'd have handled it a lot worse, I was fuming just watching!

    • @meganNefarious
      @meganNefarious 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I would've lost my shit lol

  • @davidmiller4594
    @davidmiller4594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm an avid hiker for decades. In the 90s mountain biking blew up and the hiking community protested biking trails in the mountains. The argument was, the bikes damage the landscape. I said, biking hasn't changed the trails that much and if we really do care all about the impact on the landscape, we wouldn't allow hiking either.
    I never understood that argument.
    Safety, yeah. That was a huge issue back then.
    We met with some representatives of a MB group and came up with bikers: yell when coming up to blind areas, putting bells on their bikes or they would adjust their brakes so they made a humming sound so hikers know they're coming.

  • @michaelowen8988
    @michaelowen8988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Finally something that is not clickbait! Very well handled my friend 👏

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you ! And yeah very true

  • @davewalsh8278
    @davewalsh8278 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Fair play to you mate, you handled it perfectly.

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you ! Ps sorry for 1 year late reply

  • @onionridetv
    @onionridetv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    respect mate you handled it very well!

  • @veloboy
    @veloboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very calm. You’ve just earned another subscriber. Happy trails!

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you ! Stay safe 🙏

  • @livingbymottos
    @livingbymottos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You handled this confrontation very well, regardless of who exactly was in the right. Very respectful

  • @LCM4x4
    @LCM4x4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Absolutely amazingly handled!

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much mate ! If you could share the video it would be greatly appreciated I'm trying to grow my TH-cam ! Thanks 🙏

  • @CallahanOfficialMusic
    @CallahanOfficialMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Busy bodies mate, thankfully we haven't seen too much trail sabotage at all down my neck of the woods (Essex) but its wrong whatever way you cut it. Wether you're trespassing or not, you can't knowingly potentially harm cyclists because you disapprove of them on your 'walking trail'.

  • @nobogiedr
    @nobogiedr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If it's private property then you shouldn't ride it without permission

  • @robertcryer7237
    @robertcryer7237 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was so calmly, patiently and politely handled. Very impressed by you.

  • @nathanmcbow158
    @nathanmcbow158 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "If You Hit One Of Us" what is wrong with people. I understand that being a potential issue with ATV riders ignoring safety rules, but it is a bicycle we are talking about here. On a trail in the middle of nowhere.

  • @tcreate.s
    @tcreate.s 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Such a polite fight, great restraint, model rider! IMO Those trails look fully developed, they did not just appear over night!

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you so much and yeah they've been there for a few years !

    • @ThePrivateirony
      @ThePrivateirony 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      pretty damn clear they've been there a number of years. even foot paths with significant footfall don't look like that.

    • @chriskolb3105
      @chriskolb3105 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I would have knocked their teeth out.

  • @clarkeyscichlids7430
    @clarkeyscichlids7430 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very well handled! Not sure I would have been quite so calm and rational. Well done

  • @bostdell
    @bostdell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    i must say ( although i am not a mountain biker) i would not have been so forgiving to find anyone making what are essentially traps on a trail. i think you were very restrained

  • @tyemagee1573
    @tyemagee1573 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You are far more composed than I would have been! Fair play for keeping your cool. Also, what a load of absolute shite they were talking

  • @seahog32
    @seahog32 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    For some reason I had a strong feeling of watching a Monty Python sketch.

    • @brianpreston8483
      @brianpreston8483 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But its only a flesh wound

    • @anggrimunki
      @anggrimunki 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Idle and Cleese as the old women, Palin as the cyclist. Can a time traveller go back and suggest this to them please?

  • @alexpatrick8670
    @alexpatrick8670 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If only Americans could have an argument this calmly.

  • @MR.B00_
    @MR.B00_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Several months later the woman mysteriously disappears from the woods, and David Paulide's writes a few Missing 411 paragraphs about it.

  • @DemonicVelocity
    @DemonicVelocity 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think I would have lost myself. Already have seen so many dangerous manipulations, there's much anger buried deep inside...

  • @rywieldsrods93
    @rywieldsrods93 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Question is do they have permission from the landowner also for hiking the trail?

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      They didn't ! It also isn't a hiking trail that's over the hill

  • @1mlister
    @1mlister 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Trespass is not a crime, it is a civil offence. You cannot normally be arrested for tresspass.

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope especially when you have permission, the women received a warning from the police

  • @the_lost_navigator
    @the_lost_navigator 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They are a former Councilor and a retired Teacher in their 60s, and the 17-year old has already matured past them - think about that...

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah infact she use to teach my older brother, which is how we found out who they were !

  • @dieselwilliams
    @dieselwilliams 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    What is wrong with some people. I see trails as the same as shared Bicycle and pedestrian ways. Care just needs to be taken on both sides and we can all enjoy the forests together!

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly, there is even a walkers specific trail above this one. But I've met plenty of nice walkers and don't mind one bit

    • @carolinehix6128
      @carolinehix6128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Na, ive noticed more lately people are selfish twats on the trails. They hog the path with their extended family spread out, dogs running loose, if you just go pass them with plenty of space they expect you to thank them ???? Its getting worse. So now ive learned to treat them the same, skidding and being a bitch riding like an idiot. 😜

  • @GBOB68
    @GBOB68 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Love how the butch one that thinks it's a legal expert tells you that you'll be in jail if you ran into its dog, yet is oblivious to the fact it's setting up illegal man traps.

  • @johnmckenzie1623
    @johnmckenzie1623 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A horrible pair of entitled women. I don’t know how you stayed so calm.

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you , some people aren't seeing the point. But I guess you'll always get negative comments lol

  • @mikeb1039
    @mikeb1039 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Incredibly level headed and nice of you not to call them the clueless idiots they are.

  • @GeorgeMilkasIgore
    @GeorgeMilkasIgore 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Causing deliberately harm and attempting to harm people doing any activity (sports, hike , walk , enjoying nature) should be punished by law.
    Whoever these people are need a lesson.
    Go guys ride more there!! 😀

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My thoughts exactly, lucky no one was injured

  • @brianknight5899
    @brianknight5899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Mate I'd would of lost it well done for keeping your cool dude

  • @stevegabbert9626
    @stevegabbert9626 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the first things I thought of when she said she was the owner was, "Got any proof of that?"

  • @jimbojohnson8196
    @jimbojohnson8196 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imagine worrying that someone is having fun riding a bicycle out in the woods while you are out of sight of them.... Is so many nice people

  • @jdwalker9718
    @jdwalker9718 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Well done fella... Text book handling of the privileged when they possess an attitude of entitlement and seek to harm someone they view as below them.
    Subscribed, my dude

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you !!!! Sorry for 1 year late reply

  • @RadioactiveHipsters
    @RadioactiveHipsters 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Way to keep your cool man! Kindness kills and a great representation of mountain bikers. We just wanna ride

  • @SparkyAnarchy420
    @SparkyAnarchy420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I knew what Anger you had in ya my man when you put the Hit Markers in😂😂😂😂😂 that got me

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I was pretty annoyed inside

  • @Chriscueva
    @Chriscueva 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Incredibly calm and polite in the face of such aggression. Well done

  • @markevans3124
    @markevans3124 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm teaching my son to ride and this is something I fear when we start to hit the trails. We have a few dual use trails around and they also happen to be mild enough for a beginner to learn. I would have flipped my lid, props for staying calm.

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's very rare you'd be surprised! And thank you 🙏

    • @charlottesmom
      @charlottesmom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed, these women really could have hurt someone. I would have flipped out at them too...

  • @rockgsxr
    @rockgsxr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    when i started cycling a few years ago i used to give everyone a cheery good morning, stopping to let people past etc until one day enough was enough . I'm a senior cyclist and my patience has worn thinner than my hair , i feel i'm at an age where i don't tolerate these types for more than 2 seconds .I now also ride an Emtb that sounds like a spin dryer approaching, they hate me and the feelings mutual ,aaah the joys of getting old .
    Flashback, when i was 16 , in the old days i was trickling through the woods on my trail bike(motorcycle) when i came across an old boy walking his dog , as i carefully edged past he whacked me across the back with his walking stick.!...... don't ever give these people an inch

  • @clyse88
    @clyse88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a surveyor this is basically how every field day goes.

  • @colmjackson
    @colmjackson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just found your channel Nathan 👍Well played. Handled superbly 👌🏻

  • @johndef5075
    @johndef5075 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I admire your patience. I would have told both those bags to f off and rode right by them.

  • @Balasca
    @Balasca 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Holy shit. I ride a lot of bridleways where I live and often come across things on the trails, like this. I never thought it was sabotage before.

    • @meganNefarious
      @meganNefarious 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      People are also known to string up fishing line between the trees across the trail.. That's attempted murder IMO..

    • @resurgem
      @resurgem 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@meganNefarious it has happened where I live on a sustrans cycle/ walking path. It could kill someone. Really nasty.

  • @donavintrip713
    @donavintrip713 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Subscribed and liked because you handled this situation beautifully

  • @ferrofil
    @ferrofil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm very impressed with how kept calm and collected, good job!

  • @ShawnGBR
    @ShawnGBR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "I know a lot more about the law than you do..."
    Well, Karen, I know you don't get put in jail for MANslaughter if a DOG dies.

  • @mtbbones
    @mtbbones 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    HAHAHA keep it real man, this was priceless.

  • @TinyTrailsedits
    @TinyTrailsedits 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    somebody in my local trail area started destroying all the jumps.

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hope you find them mate ! Maybe get a trail camera and hide it

  • @williamsimmons152
    @williamsimmons152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can NEVER win an argument with a stupid person.

  • @bigstoozeradventures
    @bigstoozeradventures 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    EVIL selfish minded people. So shocked that they would deliberately place obstacles that could seriously injure a mountain biker. Wonderful self composure dealing with irrational idiots. Well done. Fortunately in Scotland hikers & bikers share the countryside responsibly with mutual respect. You have a new subscriber.

    • @gweilo965
      @gweilo965 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've found fishing line at neck hight at my local trails

    • @bigstoozeradventures
      @bigstoozeradventures 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gweilo965 Jesus that is an absolute disgrace...

  • @Philzoid
    @Philzoid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Trespass isn't illegal, its a civil matter but it can be considered as aggravated trespass/criminal damage if you damage property. I think building /landscaping burns and jumps could be considered as criminal damage.

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not if you have permission

  • @Eagle_1985
    @Eagle_1985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What kind of bike are you riding ? Just wondering

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was a Nukeproof mega 2015 I believe. I currently have the 2021 Nukeproof mega

  • @samsally3581
    @samsally3581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When you beat someone unconscious in front of another ! The two don’t do that again

  • @TheValueOfN
    @TheValueOfN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    If the old biddies had thought logically about this, they would have realised that the next two biddies to walk the trail would have removed these branches or walked around them, (eventually creating a new path). Would the original biddies then put branches on the new trail too? If so, then the next two biddies to walk the trail..................... Eventually, the woods would be one big area of bare earth, (and trees).

    • @charlottesmom
      @charlottesmom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm an old biddie (55) and I'd love to have a trail like this to bike on. These old biddies are just out to bitch about anything they can find. Gives us normal old biddies a bad name...they also could have really hurt someone the jerks!

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for being a cool one 🙏

  • @andrewdube55
    @andrewdube55 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Those old bags are lucky they didn't do it to me. They would have gotten an ear full, I would have called the police myself. You need to challenge people like this, call them on their lies and stupidity, it only ends up getting THEM into trouble. They should get exactly what they give, 2 fold!

  • @spudvader
    @spudvader 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Didn't know that you can get charged with manslaughter and go to jail...for killing a dog!

  • @austindobbins8957
    @austindobbins8957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Her grave will read "Karen was a bitter old woman and the world is a happier place now."

  • @gnarthen9977
    @gnarthen9977 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yes Nath lad. Well handled. One dislike, obviously one of these melters has figured out how to use the "you tubes video thingy". Absolute cleds.

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks mate ahah you always get the idiots !!

  • @Puhleeeez
    @Puhleeeez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Sounds like motorcycles on the trail are in order.

  • @onewyatt1
    @onewyatt1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Trespassing is wrong and a crime. Altering property trespassed upon is also wrong and a crime.

    • @NathansBiking
      @NathansBiking  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah which is why I have permission 👍🏻

    • @onewyatt1
      @onewyatt1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NathansBiking key is having authority from the ones with it to give. :)

  • @adamburgess6770
    @adamburgess6770 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You're far more polite than I'd have been

  • @ummon995
    @ummon995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Forest Karen population has exploded since 2018. Normally they're regulated to suburban areas.

  • @grahamreeve5209
    @grahamreeve5209 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How did you stay so calm. Do you work in care of people with learning disabilities

  • @QOSQualityofSpeed
    @QOSQualityofSpeed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These type of people are what's bringing the world completely to a halt today. Something happened where life became too easy and now we are in a Societal collapse.