I changed out of Dynamic Gold S300 to SteelFiber FC115 5 months ago due to continuous wrist and elbow pain. Best money I’ve ever spent. I can hit large bucket of balls and play 18 holes without any wrist elbow issues the following day. Previously, I would’ve had to taken 2-3 days before pain would subside.
I did the same ... S300 to SF 115 FC. Hit them slightly longer and higher , but head change from Mizuno mp62 to zx7s and are 2 degrees stronger . Definitely easier on elbow. Miss a bit of the former feel and feedback , but no way around that going to graphite .
Danny thanks for sharing... Decided on SteelFiber i95CW (R) for new Gen4 PXG 0311 6 and 7 irons over the MMT which is also a great graphite shaft that is a steel fiber "blend" for stability. Switched to graphite once elbow and hand arthritis get worse during the season from steel (with the exception of Elevate VSS from TT). When you get to the age when you know you need to bite the bullet and move away from heavy steel yet not give up any performance but rather improve distance and dispersion, the choice is a no brainer.
I’ve had 2 strokes & lost a lot of power as well as back issues - I just got SteelFibre fc80 on my new Apex DCBs & the ball dispersion is exactly like we saw here & it’s so nice to hit - have played steel & fibre shafts but these are a great middle ground 👍
@2ndSwingGolf I swing a 7iron at 96mph but have always played a steel, stiff flex shaft, KBS tour or Nippon modus 3. I find the control is good, I play off +3 and any time I've tried X flex I've struggled.
Interesting! We have "general" rules for what shaft flex fits for certain swing speeds, but ultimately what feels and performs best for each individual swing might fall outside of general rules. Which is the case for you. Keep playing what works for you!
@@2ndswing I played kbs tour c taper light. They were good for me at the time because they controlled a wild swing. As i have gotten better, they became too heavy. I was surprised how much better the contact was with a lighter shaft.
Interesting! Because of issues with my hands and wrists i changed to the recoil f4 in stiff at 86 grams. Maybe a touch too lite causing a Flip. Recently got fit in the steelfiber 110 gram and enjoying them. Danny you have to get used to graphite but it helps with the physical issues. I can play as much as i want. With steel i often was limited to 9 holes. Greetings from the netherlands
I switched to steel fiber shafts. They are excellent in the dispersion. Good swings get rewarded. No more rotator cuff soreness. That all went away with these shafts. Great invention.
Couldn't agree more! It was an extremely difficult decision between Mitsubishi MMT and the Steel Fibers for me...After a TON of testing, MMT 105TX went into the bag...I've definitely experienced "less recovery time" this year, than in years past after making the change out of 130g X-stiff, steel shafts. Best decision I've ever made! -Danny
Very good guys! This was one of the few tests I have seen where they didn’t put the tester in some ridiculous light shaft and ask them to compare to steel. I play a 95 gram graphite shaft in stiff. So many of the golfers I play with will ask about my shafts and assume they are super light. I hope you do more testing with graphite I was surprised by the Fujikura shafts I will have to check them out on my next set. I would like to see what you could do with the MMT shafts.
Arriving late to the party, but I am impressed how consistently Danny hits the different shafts. I played steelfiber 95 stiff, softstepped once, a few years ago and liked the feel. One thing that I found was that I think the steelfibers play a little stiffer than their stated flex. If you are an X player, and moving into steelfibers, you might find either softstepping an X, or just plain S to be to your liking. Has that been your experience Thomas?
I use the Steelfiber i110 gram Stiff in my 6&5 irons (120 DG S300s in my shorter irons), and the Steelfiber i110 X-Stiff parallel in my #4 hybrid. If the 115 X was available when I did these clubs, or when I do a new set, the 115 Steelfiber will be one of my main test shafts. I would actually like to see Steelfiber make a new shaft that is similar to the DG White or Black AMT, in X-Stiff, where the PW would start 125 grams and then reduce by 3 grams per club
I was just fit into $-Taper X 130. Was in Recoil 85g prior and before that, Recoil F4 110. I knew the 85g were too light but was surprised of the jump to X 130. I love the new $-Tapers though I do feel a lot more and I think soon, I'm going to realise why I went to graphite in the first place. That said, I couldn't afford what I would have liked to try - MMT 105 or 125 TX. Any advice on how those would play compared to the $-taper?
i would really like to see Danny try a set of one length. with the Steel Fibers. it may allow him to maintain his posture a little easier throughout the round. I switched my wife to one length and she also has Scoliosis
In actual fittings, do you try to hit or keep certain swing weights for particular customers or the swing weight is whatever it comes out when switching shafts of different weights? For example, X100 is at least 3 swing weight points heavier than the Fuji 95 and 2 points more than the other two shafts in this video.
Love my SteelFibers... I have a pretty high swing speed too, 94mph 7i/110mph D, and I play the i95 on 0311T pxg blades... not a single issue with any kind of graphite flex. Absolutely feel like butter. Even thinking about changing my vokey shafts out for some SteelFibers
I put FC115s in my irons. I liked them so much I put them in my SM8s also. No regrets going to them on the wedges. I can chip, pitch, and hit full shots just as consistently as steel. Wedge play is the strength of my game as well.
@@JohnnyDSR I tried to go back to my old PX LZ's when I changed irons. Lasted about 2 rounds. Whether it's the inherent qualities of the graphite or the fact that these particular shafts just match my swing I'm not sure. but you're right I have zero plans to go back to steel.
@@chaitpv I was coming from ping i25s with the stock cfs stiff shaft which was a sub 100g shaft so I was very used to the lighter shaft. Just wanted one that was light and firm for my ss. I tested everything under the sun and as soon as these went on, it was an immediate "I want these".
Maybe a cavity back club, develop a less back dependent swing. No walking. Physical therapy and back exercise daily. I’d also recommend an emg. Most people have thoracic scoliosis and hand numbness possible carpal tunnel or cervical compression? But you’ve an awesome swing now.
Regarding Steelfiber flexes, i have frequency tested the i95 and find the regular to be the frequency as most stiff in other shafts. This explains why he hit the Stiff 115s well. Steelfiber are very stiff especially in the tip section.
Very interesting thanks.I'm 65 and have recently had carpal tunnel surgery on both wrists so I'm considering a change in irons from my M3's with true temper S300 shafts to something that will be kinder on my wrists so I can continue to play regularly as the M3's are feeling a bit harsh off the clubface now, very rare do I get the feeling of the ball (Bridgestone B339RX) being compressed off the clubface.
I’m also 65 and just had Rotator , Torn Tendon on same right arm ,Also Carpal Tunnel . If I Hit it Thin Fingers would just be on Fire ! I would run around in circles and Make up new French Words My Fifth Shoulder Surgery ,3 on Left Shoulder , Torn Labrum and Rotator and Bycep tendon , I Play Mizuno JPX 921 Hot Metal with the Recoil 95 gram Graphite , Love Them! Hoping to play come August
so last time, you fitted the guy similar to you, pale version, today the robot machine is copy paste with deeper voice of your golf partner. anyhow lovely fitting and professionalism
I had some elbow issues a while back and swapped into Steelfiber FC115s. After my elbow healed I tried to go back to my PXLZ 6.0. Couldn't do it. I now have the FC115 Stiff in irons and wedges and never played better. I needed a heavier shaft in graphite and they're pretty hard to find!
The title of this video is misleading. It is, "Fitting A Faster Swing Speed Into Graphite or SteelFiber Shafts | Golf Club Fitting Insight." As soon as the video starts Thomas Campbell says it is a comparison of graphite iron shafts versus steel iron shafts. However, he did end up testing the SteelFiber shafts as well so it was all 3 - graphite, SteelFiber, and steel. I was surprised you didn't test the SteelFiber i95 X-Flex as well as the 115. The i95 would be a direct comparison with the Fujikura he tested. It has 2.2 degrees of torque, even lower than the Fujikura shaft. Both Matt Kuchar and Brandt Snedeker use i95 SteelFiber shafts in their irons. It is reported that Geoff Ogilvy has also switched to AeroTech SteelFiber shafts although I couldn't find specifics.
I am still apprehensive about changing out to graphite shafts for my iron set. Maybe it might be due to me having graphite shafts in my first set of clubs back in a time when graphite iron shafts didn’t have a good reputation back in the late 1990s.
Hello Jonathan. i have the same experiance. My first "graphite" experience with was the first Cobra oversized in graphite. The technology today is a world apart from that in the mid 80s. There are more being used on tour every day.... especially the Aerotech SteelFiber products with Mitsubishi MMT right behind them.
I also have back pain, elbow pain and wrist pain after practicing and currently play DG AMT X100 in my irons with a 7 iron swing speed between 87-90mph. Would be interested to know if the steelfiber shafts could help with the fatigue and lessen the pain. Getting older sure is a bummer, I have the big 4-0 this year.
perhaps Danny should play S instead X-stiff... the ball speed is around 120mph for 7 iron is still within the stiff shaft range... Maybe that is why you are getting injuries playing overspec shaft :)
Hello All. Very curious about these shafts. I typically play xstiff in my driver shaft but stiff flex in iron steel shafts. I’m hearing reports these play stiff to flex and one could get away with playing a softer flex. Any thoughts from those with experience playing these shafts?
Been interesting for him to swing the stiff shaft without know it was stiff. As soon as you said it was a stiff shaft he immediately wanted to hate it.
Hello gents, perfect review for me as I'm about ready to transition into the steel fiber i70 R from project X 5.5's. I got fit for the i70's, but would there be a big difference to go into the i80's w/ club head speed around 75mph ? Thanks in advance !
@@charlesrohl7635 I was just fitted for the i70 because it gives me a little bit more distance and club head speed but decided to go with the i80 for just a little more consistency. Wouldn't say there is much of a difference., a drop of 1 mph club head speed or so.
Why not use someone who swings regular flex shafts. Lots more people play regulars than extra stiffs. This won't apply to lots more golfers than it does.
I switched to Graphite and I am sold, will never use Steel again. Give it 5 years and you won’t see Steel shafts again, just like in woods and driver. Graphite can be customised for balance and kick point.
It will be interesting to follow Danny's progress with the Steelfiber shafts, to see if they help with his medical issues and help him to play more golf with less pain
Hello Bandit , i have played steel fibre for arm pain when i can back playing 6-7 years ago after a lay up of 14ish years , currently on modus steel this season so far so good, but i do have steel fibres ready to go back into the clubs if the pain comes back, steel fibres play a bit stiffer that advertised , and a soft step once or twice would help , the other shaft to look at is the UST recoil but the prototype version , they have a serial number in each shaft etched into the shaft , both option will make swing weight lighter both have narrow tip centres so adding weight is a problem , so light weight grips will help keep swing weight up , am sure your well up in this watching other y-tube content rgs i
@@if829 Hi Ian, I hope that you are well. I have played graphite shafts in my Irons for approx 10 years now and because of my arthritic hands I could never go back to playing steel shafts, there is just too much vibration from them. My current set of Orka Irons have KBS TGI shafts which are just about perfect for my swing & hands. I also now have Jumbomax Ultralite (medium) Grips in all my clubs which has allowed me to change my left thumb position (the major source of pain). Instead of my left thumb going down the shaft I now wrap it around the Grip (like you would hold a hammer (I still interlock my fingers). This allows me to play pain-free Golf without having to use painkilling medication, which is great and a big relief.
@@banditbaker1675 morning bandit , thats a great result, have a set of 100g TGI but not put in any thing yet , was planing putting in a set of eye 2 copper heads i have , i have a set of eye 2 wedges with steelfibre in and the still preform great , my problem is tempo and the heavier SW helps and thats harder achieve in the building of graphite shafts, there is too much choice of clubs current irons are mizuno mp20 HMB plenty for giving , make the best of the good weather this weekend , the growing season here is 5 weeks behind take care i
I went for a fitting the other day and have already ordered my irons but now I’m concerned I didn’t get stiff enough shafts. I was fitted into a $-taper stuff shaft double hard stepped as my swing speed is 93mph with a 7 iron. From the video I noticed that we fitted an extra stiff shaft into 86 mph swing speed. Did my feeder do a poor job?
WHY IS NO ONE COMMENTING ON THE FACT THAT HE'S PLAYING XTRA STIFF WITH 86 MPH 7 IRONS. AND PAST TESTING SAME SPEED WITH A 6. TRY A REGULAR FLEX........STIFF AT MOST BUT MORE INTERESTING WOULD BE THREE SHAFTS ALL AROUND 100 WITH VARIED FLEXES
Is it normal to swing faster with a heavier shaft ? Im playing Mizuno 919 forged atm with Nippon 105 x-flex ( 112 gram ) and never really felt in control. I swing my 7 irong around 91-21. I recently got fitted into some Taylormade 770 with KBS 130 x-stiff ( 130 gram i belive ? ) And i actully started swinging faster, without me feeling i swung faster. My 7 iron went up to 95-96 instead and i felt much more in control of my swing Im going back on tursday to try a much much heavier shaft in my driver aswell, to see if thats the same result. Swing speed atm is 112-114 with driver with a Tensei white raw x-flex. Im very very curious, if im gonna swing a heavier driver shaft faster aswell, without any more effort
Golfers will react differently to changes in weight and bend profile, some golfers will swing a lighter shaft faster were as another golfer will swing a heavier shaft faster because they feel more in control. That's why the shaft OEM's offer so many shaft weight and stiffness bend profiles.
Hello Mr Campbell, Love the channel and especially you input and unbiased opinions on all that is new and old. Hoping to get your email address, having started again after a 10 year hiatus, I have already gone through 2 sets of irons and want your opinion on the Ping I500 in either a stiff shaft or possibly a steelfiber shaft in regular , as I have heard that they respond approximately 1/2 firmness above their actual stiffness. I know you gave your email address in a previous video, just not sure which one. Thanks for all of the information and great content. Sincerely Brett
@@Unplugged704 I have approximately same swing speed and play Recoil 460 ES F3 in my irons. They are regular flex (leaning towards stiff) and are very easy to control. I would kill my elbows with something like X-stiff.
Brian, That's definitely on my radar for the winter months in Minnesota. I will say, without question, that I was able to play more "effortless golf", and played more frequently in 2021 than in years prior. I think a lot of that has to do with the change to graphite shafts in the irons, and making the whole bag "lighter". Thanks for the compliments on the swing! More footage with graphite shafts are in the works! -Danny
@@2ndswing Excellent Danny, great to hear from you. I will say physical therapy really does work. I had low back issues from hitting for hours on the range and work. The exercises they prescribe and strengthening is the key. If you really do the exercises, it works better than anything. I was fitted for the steelfiber 95g shafts and immediately felt the difference, they were a lot less straining on my back, the effortless feel. Loved them and the numbers showed they were way more accurate.
I keep thinking I will get some information but this is just blah blah blah on and on with charts and ball flight and information like that. I'm unsubscribing now it is just too boring.
I changed out of Dynamic Gold S300 to SteelFiber FC115 5 months ago due to continuous wrist and elbow pain. Best money I’ve ever spent. I can hit large bucket of balls and play 18 holes without any wrist elbow issues the following day. Previously, I would’ve had to taken 2-3 days before pain would subside.
how much did the ball flight and distance change?
This is very nice to hear! Glad the steelfiber helped you out! Thank you for watching John!
Same here, I have i95 shafts in my irons, best purchase I ever made, elbow, wrist injury thanks me every time I play. 😃
I did the same ... S300 to SF 115 FC. Hit them slightly longer and higher , but head change from Mizuno mp62 to zx7s and are 2 degrees stronger . Definitely easier on elbow. Miss a bit of the former feel and feedback , but no way around that going to graphite .
Fitting fittings and more live fittings. Love it.
Thank you for watching!
I LOVE my Steelfibers. They're every bit as accurate and consistent as steel without the bone aching harshness on mishits.
Replaced my KBS $-Taper 120 shafts with Recoil 110 F4. Best thing I have done.
I Tested the SteelFiber shaft, but it felt dead like the C-taper.
Just got fit into the p790s 4-AW with the 95i steel fiber shafts. Unreal feel and consistency
Danny thanks for sharing... Decided on SteelFiber i95CW (R) for new Gen4 PXG 0311 6 and 7 irons over the MMT which is also a great graphite shaft that is a steel fiber "blend" for stability. Switched to graphite once elbow and hand arthritis get worse during the season from steel (with the exception of Elevate VSS from TT). When you get to the age when you know you need to bite the bullet and move away from heavy steel yet not give up any performance but rather improve distance and dispersion, the choice is a no brainer.
Nice analysis! I just switched to the steelfiber i95s and am loving them 👌
Thanks for your feedback. Glad you like them! - Thomas
I play Steelfiber, although with a 7i swing speed of 80-81 mph I play i80 reg. I love the shafts, very stable but still gives proper feedback.
Nice! Thank you for watching Justin!
What's your 7 iron carry distance ?
@@Max-jz7fd Just over 150 yards (33 degree 7i), would love to say 155 but just not quite there yet - hopefully latest lessons might get me there
I'm around 75 mph and looking at the i70's. Transitioning down from the project X 5.5 rifle R's
Excellent video and terrific information!
I’ve had 2 strokes & lost a lot of power as well as back issues - I just got SteelFibre fc80 on my new Apex DCBs & the ball dispersion is exactly like we saw here & it’s so nice to hit - have played steel & fibre shafts but these are a great middle ground 👍
Good to hear! Thank you for watching Chris!
I play steelfiber and I love it
Love to see any swingweight differences btw the steel and graphite setups.
Lighter shafts always reduce swingweight, that's why they tend to be a half inch longer installed
@2ndSwingGolf I swing a 7iron at 96mph but have always played a steel, stiff flex shaft, KBS tour or Nippon modus 3. I find the control is good, I play off +3 and any time I've tried X flex I've struggled.
Interesting! We have "general" rules for what shaft flex fits for certain swing speeds, but ultimately what feels and performs best for each individual swing might fall outside of general rules. Which is the case for you. Keep playing what works for you!
Just got fit for pxg gen3 with 95g steelfiber shafts. Felt super smooth and incredibly accurate.
Brian, I love this! What shafts did you play prior to the Steelfiber? -Danny
@@2ndswing I played kbs tour c taper light. They were good for me at the time because they controlled a wild swing. As i have gotten better, they became too heavy. I was surprised how much better the contact was with a lighter shaft.
Interesting! Because of issues with my hands and wrists i changed to the recoil f4 in stiff at 86 grams. Maybe a touch too lite causing a Flip. Recently got fit in the steelfiber 110 gram and enjoying them. Danny you have to get used to graphite but it helps with the physical issues. I can play as much as i want. With steel i often was limited to 9 holes. Greetings from the netherlands
Very good insight to hear! Thank you for the feedback and support Harry! Greetings from Minnesota!
Love aerotech steelfiber shafts. Switched all my clubs too aerotech shafts. Cobra F9 Aerotech Claymore xstiff, cobra forged tec irons steelfiber cw i80 stiff.
Very nice! Thank you for watching!
Great review made alot of sence
I switched to steel fiber shafts. They are excellent in the dispersion. Good swings get rewarded. No more rotator cuff soreness. That all went away with these shafts. Great invention.
Couldn't agree more! It was an extremely difficult decision between Mitsubishi MMT and the Steel Fibers for me...After a TON of testing, MMT 105TX went into the bag...I've definitely experienced "less recovery time" this year, than in years past after making the change out of 130g X-stiff, steel shafts. Best decision I've ever made! -Danny
Thanks for your feedback, we have heard good reviews from our customers on the steelfiber shafts. - Thomas
Very good guys! This was one of the few tests I have seen where they didn’t put the tester in some ridiculous light shaft and ask them to compare to steel. I play a 95 gram graphite shaft in stiff. So many of the golfers I play with will ask about my shafts and assume they are super light. I hope you do more testing with graphite I was surprised by the Fujikura shafts I will have to check them out on my next set. I would like to see what you could do with the MMT shafts.
Thank you for your feedback and support! We will add more graphite shaft ideas to our video list!
I have 2 sets of irons with Aerotech steelfibers in , & for me they are the best.
I just ordered a set of Mizuno HMBs with SteelFiber. Hope I get same results.
Awesome! Getting new clubs is the best feeling! Let us know how they work!
Arriving late to the party, but I am impressed how consistently Danny hits the different shafts. I played steelfiber 95 stiff, softstepped once, a few years ago and liked the feel. One thing that I found was that I think the steelfibers play a little stiffer than their stated flex. If you are an X player, and moving into steelfibers, you might find either softstepping an X, or just plain S to be to your liking. Has that been your experience Thomas?
Danny should also consider using the Bionic relief golf glove, you can get an exemption on medical grounds if playing comps.
I use the Steelfiber i110 gram Stiff in my 6&5 irons (120 DG S300s in my shorter irons), and the Steelfiber i110 X-Stiff parallel in my #4 hybrid. If the 115 X was available when I did these clubs, or when I do a new set, the 115 Steelfiber will be one of my main test shafts. I would actually like to see Steelfiber make a new shaft that is similar to the DG White or Black AMT, in X-Stiff, where the PW would start 125 grams and then reduce by 3 grams per club
I was just fit into $-Taper X 130. Was in Recoil 85g prior and before that, Recoil F4 110. I knew the 85g were too light but was surprised of the jump to X 130. I love the new $-Tapers though I do feel a lot more and I think soon, I'm going to realise why I went to graphite in the first place. That said, I couldn't afford what I would have liked to try - MMT 105 or 125 TX. Any advice on how those would play compared to the $-taper?
i would really like to see Danny try a set of one length. with the Steel Fibers. it may allow him to maintain his posture a little easier throughout the round. I switched my wife to one length and she also has Scoliosis
Very interesting! We will suggest that to him! Thank you for watching!
@@2ndswing please reach out to me if he gives it a try. I would live to hear his thoughts
I am rocking one length and Steel Fibers and have zero desire to go with anything else. And I don’t have any health issues. Just absolutely love them.
In actual fittings, do you try to hit or keep certain swing weights for particular customers or the swing weight is whatever it comes out when switching shafts of different weights?
For example, X100 is at least 3 swing weight points heavier than the Fuji 95 and 2 points more than the other two shafts in this video.
like my Claymore driver shaft , a review would be nice to see how it stacked up against , then ther is the TI Fibre as well
Love my SteelFibers... I have a pretty high swing speed too, 94mph 7i/110mph D, and I play the i95 on 0311T pxg blades... not a single issue with any kind of graphite flex. Absolutely feel like butter. Even thinking about changing my vokey shafts out for some SteelFibers
I put FC115s in my irons. I liked them so much I put them in my SM8s also. No regrets going to them on the wedges. I can chip, pitch, and hit full shots just as consistently as steel. Wedge play is the strength of my game as well.
Very insightful. Your comment on even playing SteelFiber in your wedges just tells me you are not looking back! That says alot!
@@JohnnyDSR I tried to go back to my old PX LZ's when I changed irons. Lasted about 2 rounds. Whether it's the inherent qualities of the graphite or the fact that these particular shafts just match my swing I'm not sure. but you're right I have zero plans to go back to steel.
Mike, why didn't you try the 115fc? They are a little heavier.
@@chaitpv I was coming from ping i25s with the stock cfs stiff shaft which was a sub 100g shaft so I was very used to the lighter shaft. Just wanted one that was light and firm for my ss. I tested everything under the sun and as soon as these went on, it was an immediate "I want these".
Maybe a cavity back club, develop a less back dependent swing. No walking. Physical therapy and back exercise daily. I’d also recommend an emg. Most people have thoracic scoliosis and hand numbness possible carpal tunnel or cervical compression? But you’ve an awesome swing now.
Regarding Steelfiber flexes, i have frequency tested the i95 and find the regular to be the frequency as most stiff in other shafts. This explains why he hit the Stiff 115s well. Steelfiber are very stiff especially in the tip section.
most frequency testing is done with butt measurements.Good to get more measurements down the shaft also!
I take frequency measurements at 5 positions on iron shafts. Steelfiber are essentially stiff in the tip
Very interesting thanks.I'm 65 and have recently had carpal tunnel surgery on both wrists so I'm considering a change in irons from my M3's with true temper S300 shafts to something that will be kinder on my wrists so I can continue to play regularly as the M3's are feeling a bit harsh off the clubface now, very rare do I get the feeling of the ball (Bridgestone B339RX) being compressed off the clubface.
I’m also 65 and just had Rotator , Torn Tendon on same right arm ,Also Carpal Tunnel . If I Hit it Thin Fingers would just be on Fire ! I would run around in circles and Make up new French Words My Fifth Shoulder Surgery ,3 on Left Shoulder , Torn Labrum and Rotator and Bycep tendon , I Play Mizuno JPX 921 Hot Metal with the Recoil 95 gram Graphite , Love Them! Hoping to play come August
Also Adrian , Would try an Softer Compression Ball , Go just as Far and Spin Depending what Model You try, Good Luck and hope Your Pain is Gone!
How does the Mitsubishi mmc compare to these options? Thinking of switching to graphite on my next set of irons!
so last time, you fitted the guy similar to you, pale version, today the robot machine is copy paste with deeper voice of your golf partner. anyhow lovely fitting and professionalism
Haha! Thank you for watching!
I had some elbow issues a while back and swapped into Steelfiber FC115s. After my elbow healed I tried to go back to my PXLZ 6.0. Couldn't do it. I now have the FC115 Stiff in irons and wedges and never played better. I needed a heavier shaft in graphite and they're pretty hard to find!
had very similar experience, elbow pain gone with steel fiber. don't know why but It works
Glad you found the right fit for you! Thank you for watching Jacob!
The title of this video is misleading. It is, "Fitting A Faster Swing Speed Into Graphite or SteelFiber Shafts | Golf Club Fitting Insight." As soon as the video starts Thomas Campbell says it is a comparison of graphite iron shafts versus steel iron shafts. However, he did end up testing the SteelFiber shafts as well so it was all 3 - graphite, SteelFiber, and steel. I was surprised you didn't test the SteelFiber i95 X-Flex as well as the 115. The i95 would be a direct comparison with the Fujikura he tested. It has 2.2 degrees of torque, even lower than the Fujikura shaft. Both Matt Kuchar and Brandt Snedeker use i95 SteelFiber shafts in their irons. It is reported that Geoff Ogilvy has also switched to AeroTech SteelFiber shafts although I couldn't find specifics.
I am still apprehensive about changing out to graphite shafts for my iron set. Maybe it might be due to me having graphite shafts in my first set of clubs back in a time when graphite iron shafts didn’t have a good reputation back in the late 1990s.
Hello Jonathan. i have the same experiance. My first "graphite" experience with was the first Cobra oversized in graphite. The technology today is a world apart from that in the mid 80s. There are more being used on tour every day.... especially the Aerotech SteelFiber products with Mitsubishi MMT right behind them.
Sooo...if a guy were to have a 7 iron club head speed around 97mph, you're pretty much an X100 or C taper 130 player?
I also have back pain, elbow pain and wrist pain after practicing and currently play DG AMT X100 in my irons with a 7 iron swing speed between 87-90mph. Would be interested to know if the steelfiber shafts could help with the fatigue and lessen the pain. Getting older sure is a bummer, I have the big 4-0 this year.
They are for sure worth the try to help with the pain! Let us know how it goes!
87-90 I’ve fitted fc90f4 straight in…..launched higher, longer….67 year old good swing technique in Mizuno MP SCs….great results…
87-90 I’ve fitted fc90f4 straight in…..launched higher, longer….67 year old good swing technique in Mizuno MP SCs….great results….
perhaps Danny should play S instead X-stiff... the ball speed is around 120mph for 7 iron is still within the stiff shaft range... Maybe that is why you are getting injuries playing overspec shaft :)
Hello All. Very curious about these shafts. I typically play xstiff in my driver shaft but stiff flex in iron steel shafts. I’m hearing reports these play stiff to flex and one could get away with playing a softer flex. Any thoughts from those with experience playing these shafts?
I'm a 66 yr old male with a swing speed of 88-90 mph. What flex would you recommend and graphite or steel ?
Hey Dennis! Is your ball flight high, low, mid? What club head do you play in your irons? - Jackie
@@2ndswing Ball flight is high, I have been hitting the Cleveland UHX 4 thru DW
Reg flex
@@2ndswing 4 thru DW
Been interesting for him to swing the stiff shaft without know it was stiff. As soon as you said it was a stiff shaft he immediately wanted to hate it.
Thanks for the feedback this is another great content idea - Thomas
Hello gents, perfect review for me as I'm about ready to transition into the steel fiber i70 R from project X 5.5's. I got fit for the i70's, but would there be a big difference to go into the i80's w/ club head speed around 75mph ? Thanks in advance !
P.S. also switching to Cobra king tours(or king tecs) from Mizuno 919 HM's.
@@charlesrohl7635 I was just fitted for the i70 because it gives me a little bit more distance and club head speed but decided to go with the i80 for just a little more consistency. Wouldn't say there is much of a difference., a drop of 1 mph club head speed or so.
Steelfiber makes a 125 gram also. Curious why this wasn’t tried ?
Thanks for watching. 125g would also be an option. We mostly fit the 110g options as they are more offered in most manufacturers - Thomas
@@2ndswing thank you. Do graphite shafts have to be longer length than a standard 5 or 6 iron length for instance ?
Right off the bat
Why not use someone who swings regular flex shafts. Lots more people play regulars than extra stiffs. This won't apply to lots more golfers than it does.
his swing speed is only 85, he should probably be in stiff flex.
I switched to Graphite and I am sold, will never use Steel again. Give it 5 years and you won’t see Steel shafts again, just like in woods and driver. Graphite can be customised for balance and kick point.
It will be interesting to follow Danny's progress with the Steelfiber shafts, to see if they help with his medical issues and help him to play more golf with less pain
Hello Bandit , i have played steel fibre for arm pain when i can back playing 6-7 years ago after a lay up of 14ish years , currently on modus steel this season so far so good, but i do have steel fibres ready to go back into the clubs if the pain comes back, steel fibres play a bit stiffer that advertised , and a soft step once or twice would help , the other shaft to look at is the UST recoil but the prototype version , they have a serial number in each shaft etched into the shaft , both option will make swing weight lighter both have narrow tip centres so adding weight is a problem , so light weight grips will help keep swing weight up , am sure your well up in this watching other y-tube content
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@@if829 Hi Ian, I hope that you are well.
I have played graphite shafts in my Irons for approx 10 years now and because of my arthritic hands I could never go back to playing steel shafts, there is just too much vibration from them. My current set of Orka Irons have KBS TGI shafts which are just about perfect for my swing & hands.
I also now have Jumbomax Ultralite (medium) Grips in all my clubs which has allowed me to change my left thumb position (the major source of pain). Instead of my left thumb going down the shaft I now wrap it around the Grip (like you would hold a hammer (I still interlock my fingers). This allows me to play pain-free Golf without having to use painkilling medication, which is great and a big relief.
@@banditbaker1675 morning bandit , thats a great result, have a set of 100g TGI but not put in any thing yet , was planing putting in a set of eye 2 copper heads i have , i have a set of eye 2 wedges with steelfibre in and the still preform great , my problem is tempo and the heavier SW helps and thats harder achieve in the building of graphite shafts, there is too much choice of clubs current irons are mizuno mp20 HMB plenty for giving , make the best of the good weather this weekend , the growing season here is 5 weeks behind take care i
@@if829 You too Ian.
PS Eye 2 copper heads were probably my favourite Irons of all time, Enjoy👍
@@banditbaker1675 yes totally agree, and the wedges still play great , if ping re made them they might no sell other irons
I went for a fitting the other day and have already ordered my irons but now I’m concerned I didn’t get stiff enough shafts.
I was fitted into a $-taper stuff shaft double hard stepped as my swing speed is 93mph with a 7 iron.
From the video I noticed that we fitted an extra stiff shaft into 86 mph swing speed. Did my feeder do a poor job?
There's no standard for what "stiff" even means & it has more to do with tempo and preferred feel than speed. You'll be fine.
WHY IS NO ONE COMMENTING ON THE FACT THAT HE'S PLAYING XTRA STIFF WITH 86 MPH 7 IRONS. AND PAST TESTING SAME SPEED WITH A 6. TRY A REGULAR FLEX........STIFF AT MOST BUT MORE INTERESTING WOULD BE THREE SHAFTS ALL AROUND 100 WITH VARIED FLEXES
Is it normal to swing faster with a heavier shaft ?
Im playing Mizuno 919 forged atm with Nippon 105 x-flex ( 112 gram ) and never really felt in control. I swing my 7 irong around 91-21. I recently got fitted into some Taylormade 770 with KBS 130 x-stiff ( 130 gram i belive ? ) And i actully started swinging faster, without me feeling i swung faster. My 7 iron went up to 95-96 instead and i felt much more in control of my swing
Im going back on tursday to try a much much heavier shaft in my driver aswell, to see if thats the same result. Swing speed atm is 112-114 with driver with a Tensei white raw x-flex. Im very very curious, if im gonna swing a heavier driver shaft faster aswell, without any more effort
Golfers will react differently to changes in weight and bend profile, some golfers will swing a lighter shaft faster were as another golfer will swing a heavier shaft faster because they feel more in control. That's why the shaft OEM's offer so many shaft weight and stiffness bend profiles.
Hello Mr Campbell,
Love the channel and especially you input and unbiased opinions on all that is new and old.
Hoping to get your email address, having started again after a 10 year hiatus, I have already gone through 2 sets of irons and want your opinion on the Ping I500 in either a stiff shaft or possibly a steelfiber shaft in regular , as I have heard that they respond approximately 1/2 firmness above their actual stiffness.
I know you gave your email address in a previous video, just not sure which one.
Thanks for all of the information and great content.
Sincerely Brett
why X-stiff with that swing speed? He is right on stiff with his 86mph
His preference for control-dispersion
@@Unplugged704 I have approximately same swing speed and play Recoil 460 ES F3 in my irons. They are regular flex (leaning towards stiff) and are very easy to control. I would kill my elbows with something like X-stiff.
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I hope Danny is going to physical therapy and strengthening his back so he can continue to play with that amazing swing.
Brian, That's definitely on my radar for the winter months in Minnesota. I will say, without question, that I was able to play more "effortless golf", and played more frequently in 2021 than in years prior. I think a lot of that has to do with the change to graphite shafts in the irons, and making the whole bag "lighter". Thanks for the compliments on the swing! More footage with graphite shafts are in the works! -Danny
@@2ndswing Excellent Danny, great to hear from you. I will say physical therapy really does work. I had low back issues from hitting for hours on the range and work. The exercises they prescribe and strengthening is the key. If you really do the exercises, it works better than anything. I was fitted for the steelfiber 95g shafts and immediately felt the difference, they were a lot less straining on my back, the effortless feel. Loved them and the numbers showed they were way more accurate.
interesting. hope his health issues improve so he can play more
We do too! Thank you for watching!
I keep thinking I will get some information but this is just blah blah blah on and on with charts and ball flight and information like that. I'm unsubscribing now it is just too boring.
Thanks for watching!