I've changed (75 y.o.) from KBS graphite shaft 60s in my irons to Mitsu Vanquish 50s; reg flex 6-9, stiff for gap and p wedges. The Vanquish graphite shafts were designed in conjunction with some LPGA players. They have a softer tip with higher launch and a few more yards carry. The KBS graphites launched lower and would tend to run through the greens where I play. I use the Fuji Axiom 105s stiff flex in my sand and lob wedges. As an aside, I replaced the 2R flex graphite 40 gm shaft in my Callaway Smoke Fast driver with a Mitsu K Carbon Tensei ($350.) 50 gm R flex. I also replaced the 4 gm weight in the head with a 10 gm weight and grip to a Winn midsize. Swing weight now D2 at 45.75 inches in length (at 47" SW was D8! Err by tech). This change has given me 10-15% more distance and much better dispersion. The shafts are truly the engines of the clubs.
great video. i’m a subscriber on both channels. 2 vital things are missing: 1. larger sample size. only 5 shots with each shaft isn’t enough to make a good decision on changing shafts. maybe more shots were hit off camera? hitting steel Fibre first cold definitely can throw off the data. 2. dispersion wasn’t even looked at. the AXIOM shafts selling point is accuracy. never compared the dispersion circles. sometimes eliminating a fat shot can make a difference
Wow two of my favorites in one place. Mr Short Game and Elite Fit Golf aka Mobile Clubfitter. I have been watching both for years!!! Keep up the good work!
Im no pro and not in a position to even get a fitting due to location but after a little experimentation I found the shafts I like and it fixed my ball flight, you guys are great glad you're doing videos that really answer the questions together PS assembled my first brand new set of wedges all by myself today
Sticking to my old TT Black Golds, match my swing perfectly. When I finally do upgrade my irons, I'll probably swap these shafts over. Tried several graphite shafts over the years, just couldn't find consistency with my aggressive attack and late release. Certainly wouldn't be dishing out over $100usd/club for iron shafts, my game isn't that serious.
I was fitted into T200 irons with Fujikura Pro 95 graphite shafts last year. It took a little time to get used to the swing weight difference, but I've noticed I'm hitting the ball farther and my hands and elbows don't hurt from hitting off my simulator mat anymore. And like others have said, get ready to hear the comments about being an old man because you play them. Even though my SS is 110+
Only an old man would call anyone an old man for playing graphite these days. The stiffest shafts you can buy are the LA Golf shafts that Dechambeau uses. I still have my irons in Modus 105 but every other shaft in my bag is graphite, including the putter. Didn't get along with Steelfibers when I had them. They were designed to play almost exactly like dynamic gold & I never got along with DG.
Loved the comments about swing weight. I'm really struggling with that. I have what I think is a progress set of older blades from D1 to D4 and have a shallower lie and I cant get comfortable with a modern set.
I have been following both of you fellas for a while now and never knew Adam was in Atlanta area. I am in SE TN and would love to make a pilgrimage for a fitting..... Excited now
The best iron shaft in the world is the Accra TZ, specifically for me the 115i following the X trimming guide and at a fraction of the cost of the Fujikura. They are ultra stable and despite this provide fantastic feel throughout the length of the shaft. Do yourself a favor and find a certified builder.
I just a new set of irons and wedges, all mated with UST Mamiya Recoil shafts. I was very hesitant at first, but after a few rounds and range sessions, WOW! I absolutely love these graphite shafts! I am never going back to steel shafts.
I play Aerotech FC115s. Liked them so much have them in my wedges too. May try some MMTs maybe a 105 which are no upcharge with the new Mizuno line. Only thing I hate about graphite is its always so hard to get the swingweight up to D4-D5 where I like it.
The steel fiber 95s were my number one recommend shaft when I got fitted two years ago. Took one swing and it was magic. I told the fitter to take it away. Number two was stock. Bought those.
awesome video. had my axioms 105s professionally built. 100% worth it. luckily didnt have to pay retail but even if i had to....id still do the shaft upgrade.
I just had steel fiber I95 shafts put on my Taylor made stealth clubs and I’m waiting for the chicago weather to warm up so I can play them. At the indoor ranges, I’m seeing a tighter dispersion and a little bit of more distance when I am hitting pure.
Always get fitted by a Good fitter like Adam that knows what they are doing. Beware of some of the franchise fitters as I had friends that got fitted with no lie angle done on the finished clubs, etc. I found an independent guy Greg at Gott Golf in Denver that was much better, really looked at my swing instead of just the data. Many friends have since gone there and All have been very satisfied. Shafts make such a huge difference I can't imagine buying off the shelf ever again.
Man, I just got some MP245 with MMT 105S but having been fighting the urge to get the test against the Axiom... Any sort of comparison here between the 2?
What about how the body is reacting to Steel v Graphite ? Is it easier on the joints ? Just like Cavity Back v Forged / Blades ? Is there any analysis on how it favors tye body in the short term and long term ?
Great content, Adam's very educated in the golf field, no doubt, caught a bunch of his content, love it, Short game , I've never seen you so cool, calm and collected , and I believe I'm seeing a different Olympic Finish in your golf swing, again ill say perfect Tempo, anyway I game the I95 with the pro 225, not sure I have the swing speed for this setup, not getting the flight window I like, very linedrivish lol, Thanks men, you got me thinking again about the arrows and not the Indian lol ! later,
I just bought a set of I 230s .....and got them in project x lz 6.0 120 s .....and they were pured and paralleled ....had anyone ever played pured and paralleled iron shafts .....and did you notice any difference? ....they sure feel nice ...but I am no pro ....
This lol. And I’d argue left and right accuracy is all that matters. Why hit it accurate for distance if the ball is left or right 20 yards off course?
@@TraumaER Exactly . They were talking about it and i'm like, F that 1 yard distance,, I want that tighter accuracy... Makes no sense to gain yards but be spraying it all over the place more than before.. The shaft he had on was clearly better for him than the new shafts he had installed.
@@JL-ho1tc agree. When I'm at the range, I often work on short and long irons and rarely use driver anymore. I admitted to myself long ago that driver is cool the few times it goes long and straight. But you can be pretty competitive and have fun if you can hit it shorter but very straight. Makes golf more fun for me at least.
@@TraumaER a lot of times i play a strong 3 wood off the tee instead of a driver.. I hit 3 woods 260 and straighter than drivers that i hit 280.... I hit my hybrid like a frozen rope 230 staight down the pipe.. So playing 3 wood, Hybrid i shoot at least as good as if im playing driver, iron.. Accuracy is definitely more important than distance.. UNLESS we're talking about Bryson distance.. That's just a different way to play golf..
@@JL-ho1tc agree 1000%. I found that I hit farthest and straightest with my hybrid (around 200 yds if I get it right). That is enough for me to play golf that is fun for me. I didn't play golf at a young age so learning the mechanics is a lot harder. I just found that the flexibility of the driver shaft causes so much variation for me overall. When I hit it right, it goes long and straight. However, the other times makes me hate golf LOL. Yeah the PGA golf is a different level. They are looking to hit it far as getting it on the green as quick as possible is the name of the game. But yeah my favorite clubs are Hybrid, mid Irons, and maybe a steel shaft 3W if I am feeling lucky. I don't even take my driver to the range at the moment. Waste of practice time for me.
When it comes to Shaft they are just as important as the Head of the Club.. I have seen Driver Shaft Change add 25 Yards more and more consistently ball flight. Not my swing but my Brothers.
Great coaching...killer content......I have a huge problem with my swing....curious if you could possibly do a video on it....I hit everything on the toe of the club....I mean every shot irons or driver....according to uneekor I swing about 9 degrees from the inside..(too much I'm aware but can't seem to shake that either)....hit everything on the toe.....kills any distance....I have a bad back and have a hard time getting much turn so I am very much an arm swinger....I can stand closer.....line up on the heel....line up on the toe....same results no matter what I do...TOE STRIKES.....all of my shots have a ton of left spin on them...making most of my shots hooks...or from day to day a two way miss....but mostly hooks and distance killers....even shots that I some how manage to zero out club paths still hit on the toe.....any help would be greatly appreciated....I could upload/send video if needed....I can't be the only weirdo with this problem......
I wish you would’ve hit more balls before you made a decision a sample size of 5 each with a couple miss hits in there isn’t enough data to switch shafts
So $65 for a shaft that is within 1-2% of the shaft costing DOUBLE so... 99.99% of everyone should simply save the 49% and buy the less expensive shaft. Pay the man for his build consistency!
There is absolutely no way on gods green earth I would change the steel fiber for the axiom based upon those numbers. The only way you would change is if the 'feel' is better.
@@zarlodious1 locally, as soon as someone sees my graphite shafts, the heckling begins. Seems like many lack the knowledge of what modern graphite shafts can achieve. Will it happen to everyone, probably not, but many just think of the old graphite shafts typically used by the older golfers.
I have watched his videos and i have asked the question before, during the build there was no frequency checks? That is probably the most crucial part of a build. No two shafts are alike so 1 set may have a 7i too soft and the ither may be to firm. The 4 cpm progression is very important in a build. If he didn't do that, you got screwed. Sorry man.
He most likely did considering those axioms are parallel shafts. He knows what he's doing if you watched his other videos. Why are you being such a dick lmaooo take ur meds and calm down.
Steel shafts break easier than you might think. Instead of replacing the shaft, changing your mood with a cheap shirt is a way to make golf more enjoyable.😊😊
Cool to see you with Adam!! He has a great channel just like yours as well!! Those graphite shafts looks so sweet Matt!! I bought some DTC irons last fall with graphite shafts in them and so far from the limited amount of times hitting them I have enjoyed them. I was using a set of irons which were probably from the 90's and hardly ever used by the previous owner but still the technology has advanced so much!!🏌♂⛳
I don't get free shafts $110/each, I don't have clubmaker buddy, and with almost zero improvement - you can keep your cool factor, I would stay with the hot Steelfiber!
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I've changed (75 y.o.) from KBS graphite shaft 60s in my irons to Mitsu Vanquish 50s; reg flex 6-9, stiff for gap and p wedges. The Vanquish graphite shafts were designed in conjunction with some LPGA players. They have a softer tip with higher launch and a few more yards carry. The KBS graphites launched lower and would tend to run through the greens where I play. I use the Fuji Axiom 105s stiff flex in my sand and lob wedges. As an aside, I replaced the 2R flex graphite 40 gm shaft in my Callaway Smoke Fast driver with a Mitsu K Carbon Tensei ($350.) 50 gm R flex. I also replaced the 4 gm weight in the head with a 10 gm weight and grip to a Winn midsize. Swing weight now D2 at 45.75 inches in length (at 47" SW was D8! Err by tech). This change has given me 10-15% more distance and much better dispersion. The shafts are truly the engines of the clubs.
great video. i’m a subscriber on both channels.
2 vital things are missing:
1. larger sample size. only 5 shots with each shaft isn’t enough to make a good decision on changing shafts. maybe more shots were hit off camera? hitting steel Fibre first cold definitely can throw off the data.
2. dispersion wasn’t even looked at. the AXIOM shafts selling point is accuracy. never compared the dispersion circles. sometimes eliminating a fat shot can make a difference
Wow two of my favorites in one place. Mr Short Game and Elite Fit Golf aka Mobile Clubfitter. I have been watching both for years!!! Keep up the good work!
Switched to Steel Fiber a few years ago due to constant elbow pain. Really helped. It was not cheap but best golf purchase I have ever made.
What type of shaft in beginner golf sets like Strata?
@@TraumaER LOL! Whatever they give will be substandard but they are learning sticks so...
@@n-da-bunka2650 it's what I still use.
Im no pro and not in a position to even get a fitting due to location but after a little experimentation I found the shafts I like and it fixed my ball flight, you guys are great glad you're doing videos that really answer the questions together
PS assembled my first brand new set of wedges all by myself today
Sticking to my old TT Black Golds, match my swing perfectly. When I finally do upgrade my irons, I'll probably swap these shafts over. Tried several graphite shafts over the years, just couldn't find consistency with my aggressive attack and late release. Certainly wouldn't be dishing out over $100usd/club for iron shafts, my game isn't that serious.
always fun to see you two guys together, thanks.
I was fitted into T200 irons with Fujikura Pro 95 graphite shafts last year. It took a little time to get used to the swing weight difference, but I've noticed I'm hitting the ball farther and my hands and elbows don't hurt from hitting off my simulator mat anymore. And like others have said, get ready to hear the comments about being an old man because you play them. Even though my SS is 110+
Only an old man would call anyone an old man for playing graphite these days. The stiffest shafts you can buy are the LA Golf shafts that Dechambeau uses.
I still have my irons in Modus 105 but every other shaft in my bag is graphite, including the putter. Didn't get along with Steelfibers when I had them. They were designed to play almost exactly like dynamic gold & I never got along with DG.
Loved the comments about swing weight. I'm really struggling with that. I have what I think is a progress set of older blades from D1 to D4 and have a shallower lie and I cant get comfortable with a modern set.
I have been following both of you fellas for a while now and never knew Adam was in Atlanta area. I am in SE TN and would love to make a pilgrimage for a fitting..... Excited now
The best iron shaft in the world is the Accra TZ, specifically for me the 115i following the X trimming guide and at a fraction of the cost of the Fujikura. They are ultra stable and despite this provide fantastic feel throughout the length of the shaft. Do yourself a favor and find a certified builder.
I just a new set of irons and wedges, all mated with UST Mamiya Recoil shafts. I was very hesitant at first, but after a few rounds and range sessions, WOW! I absolutely love these graphite shafts! I am never going back to steel shafts.
I play Aerotech FC115s. Liked them so much have them in my wedges too. May try some MMTs maybe a 105 which are no upcharge with the new Mizuno line. Only thing I hate about graphite is its always so hard to get the swingweight up to D4-D5 where I like it.
MMTs swing weight pretty high so you should have little issues there. My mmt tx105 came out the same as my DG 120 X100’s
Adam, is the one of the best to do it. He built my set of Ping i230's and have had 0 issues.
Great seeing you 2 together in 1 video.
Love my Aerotech i95 shafts they're expensive enough can't see spending near double for axiom shafts
The steel fiber 95s were my number one recommend shaft when I got fitted two years ago. Took one swing and it was magic. I told the fitter to take it away. Number two was stock. Bought those.
I was fitted for LA golf A series 65 gram shafts in my P790s, they feel amazing!
awesome video. had my axioms 105s professionally built. 100% worth it. luckily didnt have to pay retail but even if i had to....id still do the shaft upgrade.
Very fun video. Put graphite shafts in all my irons last month, what a difference.
Totally agree with Edf9992 - always more fun to learn something when you two guys get together!! Keep teaming!!
I just had steel fiber I95 shafts put on my Taylor made stealth clubs and I’m waiting for the chicago weather to warm up so I can play them. At the indoor ranges, I’m seeing a tighter dispersion and a little bit of more distance when I am hitting pure.
LOVE the new Ping G430 Alat blacks tbh, right up to woods
I enjoyed the shaft comparison. Nice shoes. Brand?
Always get fitted by a Good fitter like Adam that knows what they are doing. Beware of some of the franchise fitters as I had friends that got fitted with no lie angle done on the finished clubs, etc. I found an independent guy Greg at Gott Golf in Denver that was much better, really looked at my swing instead of just the data. Many friends have since gone there and All have been very satisfied. Shafts make such a huge difference I can't imagine buying off the shelf ever again.
Great video .that guys knows clubs ..he is definitely skilled craftsman
Man, I just got some MP245 with MMT 105S but having been fighting the urge to get the test against the Axiom... Any sort of comparison here between the 2?
What about how the body is reacting to Steel v Graphite ?
Is it easier on the joints ?
Just like Cavity Back v Forged / Blades ?
Is there any analysis on how it favors tye body in the short term and long term ?
Would love to see difference vs Graphite Design Tour AD of the same weight class
Great content as always!
Great content, Adam's very educated in the golf field, no doubt, caught a bunch of his content, love it, Short game , I've never seen you so cool, calm and collected , and I believe I'm seeing a different Olympic Finish in your golf swing, again ill say perfect Tempo, anyway I game the I95 with the pro 225, not sure I have the swing speed for this setup, not getting the flight window I like, very linedrivish lol, Thanks men, you got me thinking again about the arrows and not the Indian lol ! later,
Adam is super knowledgeable, I enjoy his channel
I have my appointment tomorrow! Let's GO!!!
I just bought a set of I 230s .....and got them in project x lz 6.0 120 s .....and they were pured and paralleled ....had anyone ever played pured and paralleled iron shafts .....and did you notice any difference? ....they sure feel nice ...but I am no pro ....
great job guys!!
So you gained ONE yard, and lost left right accuracy... Definitely not worth the change...
This lol. And I’d argue left and right accuracy is all that matters. Why hit it accurate for distance if the ball is left or right 20 yards off course?
@@TraumaER Exactly . They were talking about it and i'm like, F that 1 yard distance,, I want that tighter accuracy... Makes no sense to gain yards but be spraying it all over the place more than before.. The shaft he had on was clearly better for him than the new shafts he had installed.
@@JL-ho1tc agree. When I'm at the range, I often work on short and long irons and rarely use driver anymore. I admitted to myself long ago that driver is cool the few times it goes long and straight. But you can be pretty competitive and have fun if you can hit it shorter but very straight. Makes golf more fun for me at least.
@@TraumaER a lot of times i play a strong 3 wood off the tee instead of a driver.. I hit 3 woods 260 and straighter than drivers that i hit 280.... I hit my hybrid like a frozen rope 230 staight down the pipe.. So playing 3 wood, Hybrid i shoot at least as good as if im playing driver, iron..
Accuracy is definitely more important than distance.. UNLESS we're talking about Bryson distance.. That's just a different way to play golf..
@@JL-ho1tc agree 1000%. I found that I hit farthest and straightest with my hybrid (around 200 yds if I get it right). That is enough for me to play golf that is fun for me. I didn't play golf at a young age so learning the mechanics is a lot harder. I just found that the flexibility of the driver shaft causes so much variation for me overall. When I hit it right, it goes long and straight. However, the other times makes me hate golf LOL. Yeah the PGA golf is a different level. They are looking to hit it far as getting it on the green as quick as possible is the name of the game. But yeah my favorite clubs are Hybrid, mid Irons, and maybe a steel shaft 3W if I am feeling lucky. I don't even take my driver to the range at the moment. Waste of practice time for me.
For those who play in the cold like me, the SFi95 in stiff saves my hands, wrist, forearms.
No love for the Nippon NS Pro Regio Formula MB+? It's like hitting the Modus Tour in a graphite shaft definitely worth a try.
@mrshortgame Golf Are the i95 shafts also Stiff or were they Regular flex?
When it comes to Shaft they are just as important as the Head of the Club.. I have seen Driver Shaft Change add 25 Yards more and more consistently ball flight. Not my swing but my Brothers.
WHAT IS THE IRON EQUIVALENT TO THE DYNAMIC GOLD S200 WEDGE SHAFT?
I had arotech in my ping irons, but struggled to get the height I was looking for.
Can we PLEAASE get a review on the gallivan2r? They look sick!
Great guy
Did you try the heavier SteelFiber's 110"s?
How do you know when you need a heavier shaft?
Awesome video 💯
You already had Axioms put in from Fujikura?
Great coaching...killer content......I have a huge problem with my swing....curious if you could possibly do a video on it....I hit everything on the toe of the club....I mean every shot irons or driver....according to uneekor I swing about 9 degrees from the inside..(too much I'm aware but can't seem to shake that either)....hit everything on the toe.....kills any distance....I have a bad back and have a hard time getting much turn so I am very much an arm swinger....I can stand closer.....line up on the heel....line up on the toe....same results no matter what I do...TOE STRIKES.....all of my shots have a ton of left spin on them...making most of my shots hooks...or from day to day a two way miss....but mostly hooks and distance killers....even shots that I some how manage to zero out club paths still hit on the toe.....any help would be greatly appreciated....I could upload/send video if needed....I can't be the only weirdo with this problem......
get a lesson, will be %1000 better than youtube comments section coaching
I wish you would’ve hit more balls before you made a decision a sample size of 5 each with a couple miss hits in there isn’t enough data to switch shafts
hey Matt, what shoes are those?
Have the SteelFiber shafts in my Sub70 699 irons and love them. Regular flex.
Why not compare the Steelfiber 110s to the Axiom 105? I feel like that's a little more of apples to apples.
Didn’t you literally get fitted and a set of Axioms built at Fujikura last year ?
the Axiom shafts were super quiet...
I’m scratch and side to side dispersion for me far outweighs front to back dispersion. Would have saved the cash and stayed with your old shafts.
So $65 for a shaft that is within 1-2% of the shaft costing DOUBLE so... 99.99% of everyone should simply save the 49% and buy the less expensive shaft. Pay the man for his build consistency!
There is absolutely no way on gods green earth I would change the steel fiber for the axiom based upon those numbers. The only way you would change is if the 'feel' is better.
you're a cute couple. btw freddy couples plays those i95 the king of the casual swin.
Titleist and Mizuno may be the differnce.
Thought you already had Axiom shafts
Yeah, didn’t you get fit previously at the fuji hq and went with the same shafts. 🤔
Axiom sponsor promo fail lol
NOT WORTH 60 DOLLARS MORE A SHAFT
The title should have been "What are the best golf shafts for me"...🤔
Seems like a push in the 2 shafts
Wow $1000 for slight upgrade.
I get laughed at for switching to graphite shafts because so many people think of the graphite shafts 20 years ago. Be ready to be called an old man.
I am very built and SS tops in the 140's for driver, nobody calls me an old man with my aerotech shafted irons.
@@zarlodious1 locally, as soon as someone sees my graphite shafts, the heckling begins. Seems like many lack the knowledge of what modern graphite shafts can achieve. Will it happen to everyone, probably not, but many just think of the old graphite shafts typically used by the older golfers.
Strangely no single word about Feel?! So important when it comes to talk about shafts…
According to your title the vid makes no sense!
Thay don't have an F2 shaft, so I'm OUT!
"..They're all looking the same."
What a waste of time and money.For a pro that’s different,average golfer not.Even you matt are not a pro,so gains are null and void
I have watched his videos and i have asked the question before, during the build there was no frequency checks? That is probably the most crucial part of a build. No two shafts are alike so 1 set may have a 7i too soft and the ither may be to firm. The 4 cpm progression is very important in a build. If he didn't do that, you got screwed. Sorry man.
I believe the gentleman in the video has done a test on frequency on his channel. You should check it out it’s cool
If someone is selling u on cpm you’re the one getting hosed. Only measures butt of the shaft
He most likely did considering those axioms are parallel shafts. He knows what he's doing if you watched his other videos. Why are you being such a dick lmaooo take ur meds and calm down.
The Axiom iron shafts are super consistent from shaft to shaft.They are tested before they leave Fujikuras factory
Stop ruin8ng ga. Let them stay in Ca…..
Steel shafts break easier than you might think. Instead of replacing the shaft, changing your mood with a cheap shirt is a way to make golf more enjoyable.😊😊
Cool to see you with Adam!! He has a great channel just like yours as well!! Those graphite shafts looks so sweet Matt!! I bought some DTC irons last fall with graphite shafts in them and so far from the limited amount of times hitting them I have enjoyed them. I was using a set of irons which were probably from the 90's and hardly ever used by the previous owner but still the technology has advanced so much!!🏌♂⛳
I don't get free shafts $110/each, I don't have clubmaker buddy, and with almost zero improvement - you can keep your cool factor, I would stay with the hot Steelfiber!