How to Choose the Right Iron Shafts for Your Game

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  • We go through all the variables and considerations that come into play when choosing the right iron shafts for your swing.
    0:00 // Intro
    1:05 // Swing Speed
    1:46 // Shaft Weight
    4:11 // Shaft Profile
    6:36 // Weight Progression
    8:28 // Feel Preference
    11:31 // Build Considerations
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  • @brianminnotte9688
    @brianminnotte9688 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    This is the reason i will always click on TXG before any other golf content....super loyal to the GOATS

  • @TonyRotella
    @TonyRotella ปีที่แล้ว +47

    As a guy who's likely heading into an iron fitting this season, this is TREMENDOUSLY useful information. Thanks Ian & Mattie-boy!

  • @garrettsbriggs
    @garrettsbriggs ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Genuinely one of the most informative videos on the channel. Not that your other content isn’t brilliant but such good insights to be learned. Thanks for taking the time to make this!

  • @jvelez1998
    @jvelez1998 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Ian is a golf fitting savant. Brilliant insight as always. Best in the biz. 🙌🙌🙌🙌👍👍💯💯💯

  • @paulbown3960
    @paulbown3960 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You should do online courses for fitters, it would be amazing if I could go to a fitting and get this kind of advice that you guys have

  • @Daniel_a34
    @Daniel_a34 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This, 12 tips for a driver fitting, and the “what driver loft should you play” videos are the three greatest videos and the reason you’re a different and elevated channel.

  • @teewhitt
    @teewhitt ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This video couldn't have come at a better time... took several years off and gotten older... new club search, and this info is gold! Thanks guys 👊🏼

  • @sdennispga
    @sdennispga ปีที่แล้ว +11

    One of the BEST videos you've put out, period! As someone who often self-fits and always asks you iron shaft related questions, I couldn't have asked for a better explanation...particularly the commentary on temp and load characteristics. Thanks so much!

  • @Cornish_Maid
    @Cornish_Maid ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I’ve just been fitted for PXG Gen 5 irons. Because of my age and ailments, I’m going with a recoil dart 75 shaft, with P head, and due to arthritis in my hands I’m having a jumbo max grip. PXG have been unbelievably helpful by allowing me to send said grips to them, so they can accurately get my swing weight of D2. The great thing about these irons is PXG can change the weight in the back of the head to get to the exact swing weight. Absolutely brilliant.

  • @Cheddarsharp
    @Cheddarsharp 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video was amazing! Being able to really understand why or how you're choosing what you do will make every future fitting more enjoyable to watch.
    I'd love to become a fitter and content like this is such a good training tool.

  • @peterbarlock-sf7ws
    @peterbarlock-sf7ws ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your 20 years experience really shows and it's appreciated greatly. Your explanations are clear, concise and on target. You are true partners with your subscribers and those who should follow your expert team. Thanks!!

  • @wviti64
    @wviti64 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The viewers should acknowledge the value of all this essential shaft fit information in this video. Indeed a life time knowledge summarized. Thanks again guys!

  • @jonfister3237
    @jonfister3237 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great information. Awesome points about not expecting the shaft to dramatically change flight but matching the shaft to your golf swing and delivery

  • @roadtoscratchgolf3481
    @roadtoscratchgolf3481 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoyed the education on iron shafts. It is intricate, excellent reason you need some who really knows his or her stuff, and is NOT just looking for a pay day, but absolutely interested in helping you be the best you can be. Cheers.

  • @setholson8131
    @setholson8131 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Absolutely spot on pointing out the folly of trying to manipulate ball flight with shaft changes.
    When fitting, I ask players to think of the shaft fitting process as being much like fitting shoes; the best pair of shoes for you are the ones that allow you to complete the intended task while drawing little to no attention to themselves. IOW the best pair of shoes for you are the ones you don't realize you're wearing so you can focus on what you're trying to do. If you are repeatedly hitting target with a shaft and it doesn't feel too heavy/light/stiff/soft, then that's the best shaft for you. Anything other than that is excessive noise in the system of trying to play the best golf the player is capable of.

  • @johnverheyen812
    @johnverheyen812 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This discussion is exactly the content which made your channel unique when I started following you guys in 2018. Great overall primer on iron shaft selection. 💪💪

  • @RicBergstrom
    @RicBergstrom ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mattie is a freaking MACHINE!!! Amazing ability!! Learned a ton from this.

    • @pensfan718766
      @pensfan718766 ปีที่แล้ว

      Talent! He makes it look so easy

  • @garymutch601
    @garymutch601 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is great content guys. I’ve spoke to Joel in Glasgow so I’m going to get booked in very soon and get my irons/shafts once and for all.
    Keep up the good work. 🤙

  • @ErndogGolf
    @ErndogGolf ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is getting me PUMPED for my fitting on Tuesday. Awesome stuff as always, boys!

  • @chrisfreitag2603
    @chrisfreitag2603 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent master class. Great insights and knowledge from the master himself. And who said picking a shaft is easy.

  • @matt_sallie
    @matt_sallie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Systematic, honest, reliable... TXG in a nutshell 🙌 Great video chaps 🍻

  • @chefginge8761
    @chefginge8761 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was just in there fitting for shafts specifically. Was very eye opening about what works best and how weight,flex etc was so different in my current heads. Paul was great through that process.

  • @christophercoleman857
    @christophercoleman857 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent stuff boys. Really well explained. Thank you.

  • @arsey5118
    @arsey5118 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very clear overview of a complicated topic. Thanks for once again sharing your experience!

  • @garrettcole8533
    @garrettcole8533 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a well done informative walk through. Thank you! It’s a dream of mine to get in for a TXG fitting.

  • @ftball90
    @ftball90 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best video you guys have ever put out!

  • @johnaleixo9070
    @johnaleixo9070 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really appreciate this video. Great breakdown

  • @rajp3667
    @rajp3667 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This channel is Gold!! It’s unlimited tech information yet presented in a very engaging manner. Bringing the technical information to life and showing the practical use of those data points in creating the best fits. Absolutely incredible content. Fan for Life!!!👍👍🤗

  • @awol10199
    @awol10199 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You guys are awesome, I have been fitted multiple times throughout my golfing career and I have never had any fitter go into the detail you do. Even have big fitters like Club Champion never went into this detail. I feel like I’ve been getting shorted all this time.

    • @KMSchriver
      @KMSchriver ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Isn’t this channel an affiliate or Franchise of Club Champion?

  • @TheEsteroButcher
    @TheEsteroButcher 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve been playing for 15 years now. Whether or not the beginner understands this “THANKYOU!!!!”this by far the most informative video I’ve seen on iron shafts. You’ll see 500 different videos with the same info. This is by far the best that I’ve seen. Well done boys! Well done!

  • @gazowens2755
    @gazowens2755 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just got fitted at Tour issue golf here in the UK for Mizuno jpx 923 forged irons with steelfiber i110 shafts !!!! Deadly accurate. I can't wait till they're built.

  • @grahamwatkins3604
    @grahamwatkins3604 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just started playing muiras and the swing weight is d4. This video came along at the perfect time! Going to buy some midsize grips now!

  • @awsedr122
    @awsedr122 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been waiting for a shaft video!!!

  • @Ecka63
    @Ecka63 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video boys, love your work!

  • @RetiefMoosen
    @RetiefMoosen ปีที่แล้ว

    This video came out at the perfect time for me!

  • @chrisengland1
    @chrisengland1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video & it’s taken me many sets to finally get it right

  • @seancook2264
    @seancook2264 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video. Super informative as always! Personally have been fitted for every set of clubs since 2008. Was an early adopter when the guys at Urban Golf (London) were about the only people that used strain gauges for shaft fitting and high speed cameras and golf simulator technology. Built me the best clubs I ever had and also ball fitting. Fitted into Nippon NSPro1050; Super Peening for Wedges. Maybe re or less the same spec 14 years later (Modus 105). Never quite got on with anything else. But defiantly interested in trying some of the graphite options.

  • @skier4life84
    @skier4life84 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is one of the best videos you guys have put out. For years I’ve heard about tempo and load and could never truly understand what each meant and how they married up with shafts in a fitting. Thank you for providing such a simple and clear overview

  • @colinpastuch
    @colinpastuch ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I needed this video so badly. I also think you guys need to do an educational video on Launch Monitor data and what it all means.

  • @richardlovell7316
    @richardlovell7316 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It’s been a while fellas. Mattie is back. Ian is…well, Ian. The Master. Great play boys! I just have to watch this 10-15 times just to absorb the great content/info. Thanks!

    • @jaytucker4338
      @jaytucker4338 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A good TXG video is a bit like an onion...it has layers. You don't get it all in the first watch-through.

  • @badbilly429
    @badbilly429 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the technical videos!

  • @bmlavely
    @bmlavely ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm getting an iron fitting from Club Champion in two days, so this was pretty good timing to releasee this video

  • @daramaccarthy
    @daramaccarthy ปีที่แล้ว

    Moved back from Graphite to light weight metal with P790’s - very happy with TM fitting

  • @ipotato95
    @ipotato95 ปีที่แล้ว

    I swing x flex speed but grabbed 80S Mitsubishi MMT graphite due to excessive hand pain. Been loving the switch and hand feels great now

  • @canadamike6397
    @canadamike6397 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic! This was amazing!!

  • @nsbc6775
    @nsbc6775 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the Cabot swag. What a course!

  • @hansflatz1795
    @hansflatz1795 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really interesting, thanks for going over it.

  • @sgasax
    @sgasax ปีที่แล้ว

    brilliant video. thanks guys.

  • @adamspencer9280
    @adamspencer9280 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great information and a video I will bookmark.

  • @thedude271
    @thedude271 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video! I’ll be very interested in the Axiom iron shaft review. Hopefully it’s coming soon!

  • @r.wakefield521
    @r.wakefield521 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW! That was an excellent video!!!

  • @Alex-ph9ls
    @Alex-ph9ls ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video guys !

  • @jontwibell2467
    @jontwibell2467 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff guys!

  • @AL_1547
    @AL_1547 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The other suggestion I would have is to be careful and aware of what the fitter is trying for you. I went to Club Champion several years back and ended up getting fit into Oban shafts which of course were an additional $75 per club. CC was notorious for this back then, but I went away and did a little research. I went back in and asked if I could try the KBS Tour 90, and it turned out to be essentially the exact same performance for my swing with no up charge at all. The guy wasn’t upset about it, but I have a feeling some of these places will turn to the more expensive options first. He also pulled out the earlier gen PXG heads in the very first batch for me to try back when they were about double the cost of any other club out there. In the end I went from a $250-300 head and $75 shaft in the PXG/Oban to a $160 head and no up charge shaft in the Srixon Z565/KBS Tour 90 with the same or better performance. Needless to say, I decided against going through with the order through CC. It just felt a little slimy to me.

  • @mikewilliams1479
    @mikewilliams1479 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well I understood some of it but got lost a bit when it comes swing types. Nice video over all. Made my choices simpler for my DTC buy now. Sticking with KBS Tour 130 for irons and wedges and Accra Tour RPG Z for my driver and long hybrids

  • @MitchellH90
    @MitchellH90 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video thanks guys!

  • @ryanbrownley
    @ryanbrownley ปีที่แล้ว

    This makes perfect sense. I have KBS tour 90 shafts on my clubs in a stiff flex (102g). My swing speed is around 87mph with a 7i but smooth, or it feels smooth to me.

  • @Cspotrun78
    @Cspotrun78 ปีที่แล้ว

    People used to wack balls around with bamboo shafts...and now here we are! It's really mind blowing! Awesome vid as usual!

  • @scottyeaman8377
    @scottyeaman8377 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great stuff fellas !!!

  • @justinsikorsky4699
    @justinsikorsky4699 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was very helpful information.

  • @johnk.atchley5079
    @johnk.atchley5079 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Excellent video. I am 82, have played for over 60 years. Two years ago I did a Trackman swing analysis that indicated I had a swing speed of 75 mph with my 7 iron. That iron has a Royal Precision Rifle Lite 120 gram stiff shaft. That heavy a shaft almost certainly reduces my potential swing speed. This year I had a set of the same heads I play built with a much lighter shaft, a Nippon NS Pro Zelos 8 that weighs only 87.5 grams in stiff flex. I do get an increase in ball speed, up to 99 mph, and carry with that shaft. Unfortunately, at the PGA Super Store where I go to use their practice bays, they are equipped with Foresight GC Hawk launch monitors that will give me ball speed but not club speed or smash factor, so while I have worked hard to improve my swing in addition to the shaft change, I do not have an exact current swing speed number. I also understand ball speed depends in part on loft, and my 7 iron has a 34 degree loft.
    I have a couple of questions. First, in your view can an experienced golfer with a swing speed in the range you say indicates he should use a Senior or A flex, nevertheless still use a Regular flex? Second, every time I see a shaft in A or Senior flex, it is also the lightest version of that shaft. Is there such a thing as a Senior flex shaft that is also the same weight as a Regular or Stiff flex shaft? That is, an iron shaft in the 95 to 115 gram weight but with an A flex? I have not seen such an animal, but you are the experts and would know. Is there a swing type or tempo that would work with a fairly heavy shaft but with an A flex?

    • @dustinnelson8002
      @dustinnelson8002 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Order one and slap it in your 7i

  • @amalfi460
    @amalfi460 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you i really needed this

  • @andresschwender1596
    @andresschwender1596 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best Video ever from you

  • @waynepark4430
    @waynepark4430 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent educational information.

  • @jaytucker4338
    @jaytucker4338 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ian was soooooooooo engaged on this video!! 11 out of 10. Not that he is ever not engaged...but this one was kinda special. Great video lads!

  • @callmecamo2
    @callmecamo2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent content!

  • @jasonmaestre1355
    @jasonmaestre1355 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video guys , very interested in the new axiom iron shafts , I hope you will be doing a review on these

  • @gerencher
    @gerencher ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think the Mizuno DNA shaft fitter is the coolest thing ... just go to the shop swing a few times and out comes the three shafts best for you.

    • @badbilly429
      @badbilly429 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Unfortunately didn’t work for me fit me into project x 6.0 graphite and I couldn’t get it off the ground thank god I took the set up outside to hit it before buying. Ended up going with the stock mizuno graphite shaft to get the launch up.

  • @jjvas1
    @jjvas1 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is gold.

  • @lukereutergolf
    @lukereutergolf ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome vid guys

  • @jaymorin7131
    @jaymorin7131 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Steelfiber i80 F2 with a soft-step in the tip is what I ended up with and they feel great.

  • @2222skinny
    @2222skinny ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this great vid

  • @timothydaniels504
    @timothydaniels504 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember back in the day when Ian Baker Finch won the Open Championship he got an equipment deal with Daiwa Golf. Their clubs became more available in North America. They really pushed the envelope with lightweight graphite shafts that had a tremendous kick through impact. The problem was that there wasn’t much fitting available in 1993-94. Always wondered if Ian lost his game , in part because of equipment issues. You never heard about fitting in those days.

  • @andrem5843
    @andrem5843 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!

  • @MrRatFinkster
    @MrRatFinkster ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting - when I got fit for my JPX921 Forgeds, I swung like a madman and was clearly swinging out of my shoes so these shafts worked to match my super aggressive swing. Now that I am in the midst of rebuilding my swing, I cannot mesh with them anymore. Lots of factors mentioned in this video might push me to spend more money...

  • @johnsahhar7599
    @johnsahhar7599 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do a Q&A where we can ask questions? Great video, you answered many of my questions, but. look, I have more...... How do we find the balance point of a shaft? It does not seem to be a variable the manufacturers identify or something that can be determined by looking at a shaft profile graft. My irons have variable weight heads. 4-iron is 250g and PW is 294. How does this fit into the shaft selection? I hope you do more of this. And, I have to say, I have tried many other TH-cam stations and, literally, no one is as captivating as you two. Please keep up the great work. Much appreciated.

  • @ryansavarese6471
    @ryansavarese6471 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love to see a video like this for driver shafts. I find that market difficult to navigate with so many different options

  • @ryanmurphy8895
    @ryanmurphy8895 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to be dgx100s in old mix mp59, then I got fit for Cobra cb/mb and the $taper put the ball in a better window and I timed it better. I don't play as much anymore and wanted some help, also I had WAY too much spin. Went zx7 with modus 120x and love them.

  • @Diabolical_Prankster
    @Diabolical_Prankster ปีที่แล้ว

    I really love the feel of my Accra iSteel Green.

  • @kevencornett939
    @kevencornett939 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope TXG Toronto is this thorough 🤞

  • @kylesinclair203
    @kylesinclair203 ปีที่แล้ว

    🤯🤯🤯
    You truly are the master……

  • @tonyk501
    @tonyk501 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    KBS shaft player here in both irons and wedges. Very smooth feeling shafts.
    These guys also make a very good point in emphasizing the importance of higher-balanced shafts vs lower-balanced shafts.
    Shaft length is also very important.
    Don't settle on using clubs that are too short if you're a taller person.
    Get fitted for the correct length, shaft weight, and stiffness.

  • @jackcosgrove8531
    @jackcosgrove8531 ปีที่แล้ว

    TXG the 🐐

  • @nol_clss
    @nol_clss ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you.
    Love this video post- so informative!

    • @clubchampionmedia
      @clubchampionmedia  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!!

    • @allboutthemojo
      @allboutthemojo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@clubchampionmedia do you know if there are shafts out there that weigh 120 grams but have regular flex? I'm looking for 120 / 125 but everything I see from kbs or true temper is a stiff flex in that weight. Everything regular flex seems to be maximum 110 grams

  • @tellwilliams4493
    @tellwilliams4493 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this video would love a video on 1 to 2 inch long graphite shaft with low swing weight. The reason for the longer chefs back injury and right arm injury seven iron swing speed between 77 and 79. Driver‘s 89-94

  • @mikeguilfoyle8973
    @mikeguilfoyle8973 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video

  • @John_Wood_
    @John_Wood_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been playing DG-S300 for 25 years, great feel. Rifle/Project X always felt so stiff by comparison.

  • @robchapman3514
    @robchapman3514 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seriously considering a trip to Canada and getting a fitting from Ian

  • @zacharymilos392
    @zacharymilos392 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Guess those lessons w Scott paid off... Casual whip crack of 104chs 7i lol 😮😮

  • @davidlewisTN
    @davidlewisTN ปีที่แล้ว

    Reaaly great struff

  • @cutandrunfarms
    @cutandrunfarms ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Gents

  • @jacklcfc
    @jacklcfc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love the video.excellent and informative. I have a question. I was fitted into project x lz 6.0 with the t100s heads. Would I be able to use the same shaft type in a different head (mizuno) and see the same results?

  • @conorw1989
    @conorw1989 ปีที่แล้ว

    Literally just watched your last iron shaft video last night, as I'm thinking of getting new ones, great timing! I'm swinging a 7 iron anywhere from 93-95, but have stiff modus 120s, is just stepping up to x stiff the best move, or should I get refit completely?

  • @rlbjr
    @rlbjr ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video. Unfortunately very few fitters have this knowledge and actually look at these things in a fitting. Anyone know of a fitter that is capable of this level of detail in the NJ area?

  • @stephan5278
    @stephan5278 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought Mizuno pro 225 with Modus tour 105 and love them. Not sure I like the grips (they're different them I'm used to), so I might change them.

  • @Chris_Rowles
    @Chris_Rowles ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Next level to this would be going through every shaft on the wall and separating them into; stiffness, balance point, and profile. It’s hard to know since there isn’t a universal way to measure shafts based on those 3 factors. I know EI profiles are the closest thing, but even those are more of a guideline than exact data.
    Probably too difficult to put into one video, but would love to see a complete breakdown of the everything out there.

    • @sitaylor
      @sitaylor ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree entirely... But then this would be putting most ''average' fitters out of business.

  • @AussieBob999
    @AussieBob999 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wish I had seen this before. I have been to many manufacture based 'fittings' and all they did was recommend their standard shafts and no options were given (too hard?). You guys have the best approach, (totally independent). The only place I could find near here that had 'fitters' jad them all specialists in one brand or two. - the Titleist fitter recommended their brand and the Ping fitter the same - guess what so did the Taylormade. After all that I asked the manager (big place) if there was any 'independent' fitters - and he looked at me like I had 2 heads. If someone did what you did in Australia they would do very well - but the Aust PGA would probably shut them down. Wish I lived near you in UK. PS - I ended up with Ping as their fitting process was far more comprehensive.

  • @andershaukoos
    @andershaukoos ปีที่แล้ว

    Gotta have the link to this video ready to copy paste in the live chats haha

  • @VishMoto
    @VishMoto ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved this video to demystify the iron shaft fitting aspects for building a new set…. too bad txg isn’t in norcal (altho club champion is the parent and it has locations)

  • @SteelTiiTan
    @SteelTiiTan ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video, super helpful! Would you guys maybe mind looking at launch/speed differences that you guys get when using say X100 tour issue vs AMT White X100? Or like the Project X 6.5 vs the Project X I.O. 6.5? How do these effect long irons specifically? Myself along with a lot of amateurs see small gaps between 3,4,5,6 irons and I'm wondering how much these would help us? I realize you discussed ascending weight shafts but wondering about actual testing between them?