Me also, I’m 57 was a workaholic, and I am now disabled from various breakdowns and substance abuse issues from trying to fake it for 30 years. This really hits Home.
Because most in fact judge you. Its just a fact. Especially if you can't work because of it? You always have that suspicion hanging over your head by others. People don't wish to engage with you because they think you re a failure.
I think people can't understand why it takes us so long to get better. I have the feeling that I deceive them and that they don't want to hear about my depression any more... And so I mask and hide it..
@sand8228 I understand. Because that's exactly what happens. I don't believe its because people don't care? I just believe most are trying so hard to keep their head above water themselves, they simply don't have the energy to invest in your issues too?
I've known for years that I am high functioning depressed. The amount of people who have told me I'm full of crud is amazing. Therapists of all types have been no real help either. I keep telling people that the only reason I'm here is sheer stubbornness, spite and force of will. I'm determined not to let it be at me.
This is me. Don't feel like I can connect with anyone, although I go through the motions. And yes, never feel really awake, just a zombie, everything is foggy. Nothing is exciting.
Living the life of quiet desperation, the inertia of not having that surge of dopamine, but going to work through a veil of sadness and cobbling some vestige of normality to do it anyway. Oh yes.
yes, we just keep doing what we are used to being dead inside, feeling no joy or any equivalent of it and this lasts whole life and then we die that's it
OMG.... The workaholism. I had a job working 90-100 hour weeks and it was nice. I left that job for a normal 40 hour job for more money and I'm no longer high functioning depressed. It's like my structure to deal with my depression was pulled away and I crumbled
I'm all of what you mentioned except the last one. I'm terrified of risk, because I'm terrified of failure, embarrassment, disappointment. I avoid risks at all cost, which results in stagnation...
I know the feeling but you have to fight this. There are waaaaay more interesting things to do in the world than you can ever do in 1 lifetime. Or 100 lifetimes. It just doesn't feel that way. That's depression. That's what it does to you. But the good news is that just because you think and feel this way, doesn't mean it's true. You can find your way out of this. Find interesting things once again.
This is me. Now in my 50's and been this way since around age 20. People have no idea the ball and chain people with this condition have to drag around just to get through the day, let alone decades. Many times I've considered ending it once and for all, but I keep reminding myself life is over for all of us in the blink of an eye as it is. No need to rush it.
The Miss America Lady committed suicide. Her mum was interviewed and spoke about how she had high functioning suicide. Watching videos of this gorgeous woman doing her news presentations, not realizing how much pain she is in. I felt so sorry for her Mum❤
Experience has shown me that no one really wants to hear about your problems. Especially if you’re a man/husband/dad. So you’ve just gotta figure it out and bear it yourself.
In my experience, people don't mind hearing about your problems as long as you also make it clear you're interested in working towards a SOLUTION. If I'm just looking for someone to listen to me wallow in my problems, I'm not gonna find too many takers.
This was me and tried to take my life once I got hurt at work and had to take time off. I had no idea everything would crash. I'm reclaiming my life. I still have to watch how I put so much time into work.
This was extremely helpful because I have always felt I'M defective, have always felt alone in a crowd, so hard to connect. And the feeling of being an actor in a movie?? I def thought that was only me 😞 Always persuing something from a place of insecurity. I was diagnosed with acute anxiety/panic disorder in my 20's but never any mention of depression. I now know they often go hand in hand. I have tried in the past to let people know when I'm floundering, both at work and with family and they hear but don't listen. They roll their eyes or fluff it off and I am left pushing beyond my comfort zone way too often. The traditional workplace has always been a disaster for me and have suffered many breakdowns as a result....I just burn out trying to fake it. Help for mental health disorders NEEDS to be covered by our medical but resources are very limited and pricey, here in Canada anyway. I am so grateful for your channel.🙏
@3:23 "the ability to ... dissasemble any potential source of positivity..." Another way of saying this could be Chronic Objectivity. Perhaps this is what emerges when the subjective experience is regarded as trivial. Perhaps as a defense against emotional shock (trauma). Depression is a state of subjective pain, after all.
You have given me so many answers to so much I have not understood in my life. People think I am positive and upbeat, but I struggle every day. I am so sad about my life. It's just been so hard. I was born into an abusive and very dysfunctional family. I believe that people that have grown up in an abusive and dysfunctional family are so much more tolerant than others to the difficulties of life. We don't expect a lot from life or from people. I'm so thankful for your videos.
After a few decades of high functioning as an engineer, I completely unraveled, ended up on disability and am now friendless and in the middle of several addictions and at 60 have not real future and have been living for 15 years in a state of "being lost". I don't have any idea where to go from here.
I definitely relate to the trudging along aspect, it's always exactly the same level of difficulty to do tasks no matter how many times I've done it, because I don't *want* to do anything at all, and I don't want to do nothing either. So I just end up doing random things and neither enjoying myself nor feeling rewarded for accomplishing things.
my socially acceptable addiction is video games. if left to my own devices, I can pour 140 hours a week into playing games, and the really sad part is that I STILL don't really enjoy it, I just kind of tolerate it better than other tasks
Workaholism to avoid dealing with loneliness, conflict at home and health problems ... it's like you are reading my diary. The topics you have covered on your channel have helped me more than you know.
Very interesting, even from a low-functioning perspective. I now think I was probably depressed back when I was successful in my career. Thanks for the great videos.
Wow, I think I had this until very recently. In my case, certain illicit substances changed this, but I spent years questioning if I was even depressed. I just thought this was what life was like.
This! There might be liability issues so they have to register people, file insurance and have a supervising counselor etc. - and it is it's just group counseling. Decades ago I heard of a thing called Depression Anonymous but there wasn't a branch in my area.
I agree that someone who isn't able to celebrate or feel happy about an achievement has a disrupted reward system. But I have to question whether someone who doesn't experience the positive emotion of reward has somehow detached from or suppresses the emotion of reward. My family never celebrated any positive events when I was growing up and I simply don't know what the emotion of reward feels like. My parents never felt or demonstrated any happiness or positivity over a reward or good thing happening, and I never witnessed it and never felt it myself. The only thing I know is to, when something good happens, just go on to the next thing. I'm not depressed... I just never experienced any other way.
I think this used to be me, at least in many ways. And then I hit crisis and burnout. Now I'm probably low-functioning and may end up jobless. Yay depression.
@@cerulean93 i felt called to share i have these thoughts and worries. I just called out of work and i worry someday i will no longer be able to work 40 hours a week. I just don't feel like i am built for this world. I am sending you love.
Something I'm always telling my doctors and my therapist is that it's really hard to get people to listen to me about my depression and addiction. People are always dismissing it because I can go to work each day and live a seemingly normal life.
I keep it to myself i dont like getting useless advice thrown at me or surpursed reactions/general misunderstanding. Recently Ive struggled to mask and people think things caught on fire recently NAH BISH its always on fire
Thank you so much for talking more about this. While I haven't been officially diagnosed, the first time I heard about this sub-type it just kind or resonated with me. Having you break down the various signs, of which for me there were many, helped to let me know things to recognize within myself. Number 4 especially hit home as I've often described social interactions as, "putting on the right mask, for the right situation," and survived since my teenage years doing so. However for people that I have been able to trust, I've always been able to admit that when those moments get quiet, is when I feel so completely alone. Number 5 has also been my demon that I fight daily.
Very well articulated for something which is so hard to grasp. I think I've heard it called Dysthymia or Persistent Depressive Disorder because it's always there. I agree with everything except number 8. I simply cant be bothered taking a risk or else I'm afraid that if it doesn't work out, I'll feel even worse. Good video.
Sign 1: my life in a nutshell, falling apart to pieces at 47 Sign 2: my husband's way of thinking Sign 3: the crutch Sign 4: the fasade, which is now crumbling Sign 5: got the Tshirt Sign 6: if I get 4hrs of uninterrupted sleep, I am over the moon Sign 7: lack of energy is forcing to direct it at work, away from hobbies Sign 8: check - started playing lottery I am screwed 😅
Reminds me when I finished the roofing job on my house back in 2016. Still to this day in fantastic condition, and the only time I did a roof was my dad's a-frame shed when I was 13 or 14. Laser straight shingle lines, repaired all the leaks, and nailed (pun intended) all the detailed work (flashing, roof intersections etc). I knew I should have felt a sense of accomplishment but felt nothing. Good workout over that summer though.
I will agree with about everyone posting , you really described me to a T and I have asked therapist why I dont ever feel connected to anyone and have to remind myself someone is my friend even if I have known them for 40 yrs . MORE ON THIS SUBJECT PLEASE .
I have been struggling with this since my teenage years. Figuring it out felt productive but that was six years ago and it hasn't moved. The house, the kids the career, the counseling nothing helps. I get moments of feeling like a real person but it always fades. I feel called out about the inattentive ADHD comment. Got diagnosed couple years after the depression was recognized. Now what? Another 50 years of this? God damn it.
Wow. Your videos are already in another league but this one is off-the-scale (hence this, my first comment on this channel). So much relevance, insight and analysis of so many different manifestations 👌 I'm going to study this content more deeply and examine its personal relevance. I just wish my extensive attempts at a personal 'fix' had shown some signs of success
Thanks for the new release! But a workaholic depression does do me a favour as I tend to spend even more time alone and pick up my readings. As a post-graduate student of the Faculty of Arts & Letters,the faculty building is almost an inpatient unit - i could stay for 12+hrs feeling at home 😢
Plus, 'admission' allows both collocations with 'to graduate school‘ & 'to hospital'... Never had I thought of this even during my first years with depression…
Wow, this did open my eyes, I have some of these symptoms,not all,but can relate to a handful of these. My husband definitely had the last one for years.
Yeah I can relate to this, never really connected deeply with someone though I've had friendships. I always either feel like a zombie, or like I stayed up all night. I usually watch TH-cam & just try to block out the world, it's very hard to get into hobbies 'cause I know I won't enjoy it. I remember one time a coworker said "You seem to have everything together" little did they know I was in the midst of NSSI. The big risk thing & I know it was really a big factor in the NSSI behavior, it was really the only thing that's made me feel.
11:50 The sixth sign; that, THAT!! OMG I know I'm not crazy and lazy, but why do I feel like I am, despite all the work that I do?? That symptom explained to a T how I feel every day! And it's worse for me because I do have ADHD. "High functioning depression" oddly has a glamorous sound to it, which is probably why many can't believe it exists but we know it does. I should wear a shirt that says that to make people aware of how problematic it is for me.
The achievement driven vs insecurity thing resonated with me. I have achieved more than a lot of people I know but I keep wishing I felt a sense of acheivement so I keep trying to acheive more. I get the promotion or the house or the skill and it just doesn't hit.
Most people have always thought I'm extroverted. So curious. Depression is easing now. Of course now I'm 74 and retired and can isolate. Better. But don't push it.
I totally needed to watch this... Im all 8 of those signs... which is y Im struggling with stuff in my life bc they cant or as I thought didnt want to see it... now I have a better perspective on y that is now... Thank You
"Like an actor playing a TV show." Does "imposter syndrome" fit in here? I always feel that way . . . deep down, incompetent, but able to put up a productive front.
The worst thing about the cognition of depression imo, as I have experienced it, is that it does not feel like pessimism. It feels like realism. Like clarity. Like seeing without the optimism bias. It can be a long hard road from there to somewhere where you can believe in good things again. I'm not in the best period of my life right now, but I'm not in the worst, either. So, from my experience I would say: There are good things in life. Or there can be. But it can take a lot of work to find them. And to feel them.
Even when I decided to spontaneously take the risk, cause it's like, wtf do I have to lose ? This may work out better than the shit life I've been living ! But simultaneously I'm thinking, man this is crazy !!! Betraying my safe depressed self, but admitting to my going no where self ! Why, why, why wasn't there a Dr. Scott in my early life of therapy ???
You are soooooo good. I am going to have to consult with you. I brought your book and it is exactly me. You understand this sooo much and I am so relieved that I am not alone. Even in a PHP program I am not believed that I am depressed. I've only had one doctor really fight for me and then the owner retired and I couldn't follow her. I feel I am always advocating for myself ...that I need help and support bc I am so low. This makes me more tired and wants to just check out here. I know now why people commit suicide and people are shocked. But no one really paid attention.
Not sure if this is me or not, but I basically do everything out of fear or insecurity. I’m trying to move over toward doing things because it’s what I want, but it’s really hard to figure out what that even is. I get so stressed and burnt out by work and all of the obligations in life, I’m just an empty shell by the end of the day. I don’t even watch shows or do hardly anything for pleasure. And yeah everyone sees me as some kind of go-getter. Couldn’t be further from the truth. But it’s like any alternative job or lifestyle I consider seems like it has its own stresses associated with it, so it’s like maybe I was just made the wrong way lol. I know that’s probably just negative thought patterns, but it’s hard not to see it that way. In a weird way I’ve become okay with it. Like maybe I should just throw everything else out and throw myself into work because I can’t seem to achieve any kind of balance, and trying to just stresses me out all the more. Maybe I should just sacrifice myself on the altar of capitalism. Okay venting over, have a good day everyone, don’t forget to stay hydrated lol
Thank you Dr Scott, amazing content as usual! ❤ could I request a video on how to deal with, or improve cognitive dissonance? I feel very much stuck, confused; brain keeps going in opposite directions. I keep questioning myself and losing self-trust.
Can we potentially get a video on depression for those of us with some shades of ASD - for whom perhaps classic CBT designed for neurotypicals might not be well suited? I hear what you have said previously about finding a good therapist but i think the actual approach as a whole doesn't work as well. Btw i think i would also class myself as high functioning depressive.
when it comes to the Hobbies thing (#7), is it possible that #1 AND #7 could go hand-in-hand? let me explain.... If one is "highly accomplished" in a collectors hobby but they dont feel like their collection is "good"(even when it is), so they press on and collect more and are in a never ending cycle of what may be called "chasing the dragon"?
Can long term use of stimulants cause this problem of not feeling reward anymore? I'm trudging with no happiness other than playing with my roommates cat...
1.high achievements but no emotional connection to them 2.quickly disassemble good things in their life 3. Acceptable addictions 4. No connection feel lonely regardless of social life 5.driven by insecurity and inferiority rather than something positive 6.never feel fully awake never feel 100% 7.hobbies feel like a waste of time stop doing hobbies 8.take big risk knowingly
My colleague...workaholic and a wreck. Doesn't see it himself I guess. Or he does, don't know. It's hard to speak at the workplace. Maybe I'm wrong, like you say, they appear good functioning, but when you look closely...man... so obvious actually.
You just described my life. Ive suffered from this, since age 14. Now 59, I'm burnt-out, tired, and just want peace and a normal life.
Me too luv, me too.
Me too this resonates.
Me also, I’m 57 was a workaholic, and I am now disabled from various breakdowns and substance abuse issues from trying to fake it for 30 years. This really hits Home.
Also, hobbies bore me, I took high risks in the stock market, this is so me, I built a fancy custom house, and I couldn’t care less about it.
Amen 🙏
I think it’s also we’ve carried so much alone for so long & we don’t want to burden anyone else.
Because most in fact judge you. Its just a fact. Especially if you can't work because of it? You always have that suspicion hanging over your head by others. People don't wish to engage with you because they think you re a failure.
I think people can't understand why it takes us so long to get better. I have the feeling that I deceive them and that they don't want to hear about my depression any more... And so I mask and hide it..
@sand8228 I understand. Because that's exactly what happens. I don't believe its because people don't care? I just believe most are trying so hard to keep their head above water themselves, they simply don't have the energy to invest in your issues too?
Some of us have learned that you can't trust other people, it isn't safe to let them know.
@@steph7960 your commenting... To a Christian...
I've known for years that I am high functioning depressed. The amount of people who have told me I'm full of crud is amazing. Therapists of all types have been no real help either. I keep telling people that the only reason I'm here is sheer stubbornness, spite and force of will. I'm determined not to let it be at me.
This is me. Don't feel like I can connect with anyone, although I go through the motions. And yes, never feel really awake, just a zombie, everything is foggy. Nothing is exciting.
Living the life of quiet desperation, the inertia of not having that surge of dopamine, but going to work through a veil of sadness and cobbling some vestige of normality to do it anyway. Oh yes.
yes, we just keep doing what we are used to
being dead inside, feeling no joy or any equivalent of it
and this lasts whole life
and then we die
that's it
As someone who fits this description well, yes. Please make more content on this topic.
OMG.... The workaholism. I had a job working 90-100 hour weeks and it was nice. I left that job for a normal 40 hour job for more money and I'm no longer high functioning depressed. It's like my structure to deal with my depression was pulled away and I crumbled
I'm all of what you mentioned except the last one. I'm terrified of risk, because I'm terrified of failure, embarrassment, disappointment. I avoid risks at all cost, which results in stagnation...
Dr. this is my first comment to you -- Yes, please post more about high funtioning depression. This explained a lot for me. Thank you!
This perfectly describes someone I just loved more than I’ve loved really anyone. I miss him so much.
I have done mostly everything I want to do in my life. I want to permanently sleep now.
I know the feeling but you have to fight this. There are waaaaay more interesting things to do in the world than you can ever do in 1 lifetime. Or 100 lifetimes. It just doesn't feel that way. That's depression. That's what it does to you. But the good news is that just because you think and feel this way, doesn't mean it's true. You can find your way out of this. Find interesting things once again.
I haven’t done nearly everything I wanted to do in my life and I feel like I need to get some permanent sleep too. I’m in over my head.
I feel the same thing
@@vs4571 Yes, the tiredness is horrible aye? Are you like, tired, tired, tired, then try to go to sleep and you're awake, awake, awake...?
Trudging...good word. My life and I am passed 75.
This is me all day
(((((((((kujo))))))))
Nice visuals and calm backing track…sign me up ❤
I haven’t resonated with so many points in a video before…
This is me. Now in my 50's and been this way since around age 20. People have no idea the ball and chain people with this condition have to drag around just to get through the day, let alone decades. Many times I've considered ending it once and for all, but I keep reminding myself life is over for all of us in the blink of an eye as it is. No need to rush it.
The Miss America Lady committed suicide. Her mum was interviewed and spoke about how she had high functioning suicide. Watching videos of this gorgeous woman doing her news presentations, not realizing how much pain she is in. I felt so sorry for her Mum❤
Experience has shown me that no one really wants to hear about your problems. Especially if you’re a man/husband/dad. So you’ve just gotta figure it out and bear it yourself.
In my experience, people don't mind hearing about your problems as long as you also make it clear you're interested in working towards a SOLUTION. If I'm just looking for someone to listen to me wallow in my problems, I'm not gonna find too many takers.
Therapy.
Truth
This was me and tried to take my life once I got hurt at work and had to take time off. I had no idea everything would crash. I'm reclaiming my life. I still have to watch how I put so much time into work.
This was extremely helpful because I have always felt I'M defective, have always felt alone in a crowd, so hard to connect. And the feeling of being an actor in a movie?? I def thought that was only me 😞 Always persuing something from a place of insecurity. I was diagnosed with acute anxiety/panic disorder in my 20's but never any mention of depression. I now know they often go hand in hand. I have tried in the past to let people know when I'm floundering, both at work and with family and they hear but don't listen. They roll their eyes or fluff it off and I am left pushing beyond my comfort zone way too often. The traditional workplace has always been a disaster for me and have suffered many breakdowns as a result....I just burn out trying to fake it. Help for mental health disorders NEEDS to be covered by our medical but resources are very limited and pricey, here in Canada anyway. I am so grateful for your channel.🙏
@3:23 "the ability to ... dissasemble any potential source of positivity..."
Another way of saying this could be Chronic Objectivity.
Perhaps this is what emerges when the subjective experience is regarded as trivial. Perhaps as a defense against emotional shock (trauma). Depression is a state of subjective pain, after all.
Actor playing a role. Exactly. It's exhausting.
You have given me so many answers to so much I have not understood in my life. People think I am positive and upbeat, but I struggle every day. I am so sad about my life. It's just been so hard. I was born into an abusive and very dysfunctional family. I believe that people that have grown up in an abusive and dysfunctional family are so much more tolerant than others to the difficulties of life. We don't expect a lot from life or from people. I'm so thankful for your videos.
After a few decades of high functioning as an engineer, I completely unraveled, ended up on disability and am now friendless and in the middle of several addictions and at 60 have not real future and have been living for 15 years in a state of "being lost". I don't have any idea where to go from here.
So sorry 😞 praying for you.
@@pegsullivan2299that doesn't do anything.
Same!
Please tell us you're in counselling (?) 😊
I definitely relate to the trudging along aspect, it's always exactly the same level of difficulty to do tasks no matter how many times I've done it, because I don't *want* to do anything at all, and I don't want to do nothing either. So I just end up doing random things and neither enjoying myself nor feeling rewarded for accomplishing things.
my socially acceptable addiction is video games. if left to my own devices, I can pour 140 hours a week into playing games, and the really sad part is that I STILL don't really enjoy it, I just kind of tolerate it better than other tasks
Workaholism to avoid dealing with loneliness, conflict at home and health problems ... it's like you are reading my diary. The topics you have covered on your channel have helped me more than you know.
Very interesting, even from a low-functioning perspective. I now think I was probably depressed back when I was successful in my career. Thanks for the great videos.
Thank you for not introducing yourself and your channel at the beginning of each video. You dive right in. So appreciated!
You totally described me. I felt something was wrong with me.
I'm the best supporting actor of everything is fine.🤷♂️
This was so interesting! I sorta recognized myself but not fully. I'm deep inside longterm burnout.
Wow, I think I had this until very recently. In my case, certain illicit substances changed this, but I spent years questioning if I was even depressed. I just thought this was what life was like.
I would like a drop-in center. Therapy can be helpful but expensive. Most of my friends are sympathetic but don’t understand.
This! There might be liability issues so they have to register people, file insurance and have a supervising counselor etc. - and it is it's just group counseling. Decades ago I heard of a thing called Depression Anonymous but there wasn't a branch in my area.
Spot on Dr Scott.
I agree that someone who isn't able to celebrate or feel happy about an achievement has a disrupted reward system. But I have to question whether someone who doesn't experience the positive emotion of reward has somehow detached from or suppresses the emotion of reward. My family never celebrated any positive events when I was growing up and I simply don't know what the emotion of reward feels like. My parents never felt or demonstrated any happiness or positivity over a reward or good thing happening, and I never witnessed it and never felt it myself. The only thing I know is to, when something good happens, just go on to the next thing. I'm not depressed... I just never experienced any other way.
I think this used to be me, at least in many ways. And then I hit crisis and burnout. Now I'm probably low-functioning and may end up jobless. Yay depression.
@@cerulean93 i felt called to share i have these thoughts and worries. I just called out of work and i worry someday i will no longer be able to work 40 hours a week. I just don't feel like i am built for this world. I am sending you love.
Something I'm always telling my doctors and my therapist is that it's really hard to get people to listen to me about my depression and addiction. People are always dismissing it because I can go to work each day and live a seemingly normal life.
“Depressionaholic” Know too well!! Anhedonia as well. Ugh!
Man, fvck anhedonia 😢
I keep it to myself i dont like getting useless advice thrown at me or surpursed reactions/general misunderstanding. Recently Ive struggled to mask and people think things caught on fire recently NAH BISH its always on fire
Thank you so much for talking more about this. While I haven't been officially diagnosed, the first time I heard about this sub-type it just kind or resonated with me. Having you break down the various signs, of which for me there were many, helped to let me know things to recognize within myself.
Number 4 especially hit home as I've often described social interactions as, "putting on the right mask, for the right situation," and survived since my teenage years doing so. However for people that I have been able to trust, I've always been able to admit that when those moments get quiet, is when I feel so completely alone. Number 5 has also been my demon that I fight daily.
You are correct Sir. I am one of these people. Worked for a company for more than 20 years until I burnt out during the pandemic.
Dr Eilers, your video is very helpful, as always!👍👍
Please discuss this more. I have suffered from this my entire life. I’m 70. Thank you
Is there a cure? I'm so tired
Very well articulated for something which is so hard to grasp. I think I've heard it called Dysthymia or Persistent Depressive Disorder because it's always there. I agree with everything except number 8. I simply cant be bothered taking a risk or else I'm afraid that if it doesn't work out, I'll feel even worse. Good video.
Sign 1: my life in a nutshell, falling apart to pieces at 47
Sign 2: my husband's way of thinking
Sign 3: the crutch
Sign 4: the fasade, which is now crumbling
Sign 5: got the Tshirt
Sign 6: if I get 4hrs of uninterrupted sleep, I am over the moon
Sign 7: lack of energy is forcing to direct it at work, away from hobbies
Sign 8: check - started playing lottery
I am screwed 😅
At this point, I don’t even want anything anymore from life despite being a previous overachieving student
Reminds me when I finished the roofing job on my house back in 2016. Still to this day in fantastic condition, and the only time I did a roof was my dad's a-frame shed when I was 13 or 14. Laser straight shingle lines, repaired all the leaks, and nailed (pun intended) all the detailed work (flashing, roof intersections etc). I knew I should have felt a sense of accomplishment but felt nothing. Good workout over that summer though.
I will agree with about everyone posting , you really described me to a T and I have asked therapist why I dont ever feel connected to anyone and have to remind myself someone is my friend even if I have known them for 40 yrs . MORE ON THIS SUBJECT PLEASE .
I have been struggling with this since my teenage years. Figuring it out felt productive but that was six years ago and it hasn't moved. The house, the kids the career, the counseling nothing helps. I get moments of feeling like a real person but it always fades. I feel called out about the inattentive ADHD comment. Got diagnosed couple years after the depression was recognized. Now what? Another 50 years of this? God damn it.
Validation. This is huge.
THANK you!
Wow. Your videos are already in another league but this one is off-the-scale (hence this, my first comment on this channel). So much relevance, insight and analysis of so many different manifestations 👌 I'm going to study this content more deeply and examine its personal relevance. I just wish my extensive attempts at a personal 'fix' had shown some signs of success
Thanks for the new release! But a workaholic depression does do me a favour as I tend to spend even more time alone and pick up my readings. As a post-graduate student of the Faculty of Arts & Letters,the faculty building is almost an inpatient unit - i could stay for 12+hrs feeling at home 😢
Plus, 'admission' allows both collocations with 'to graduate school‘ & 'to hospital'... Never had I thought of this even during my first years with depression…
Legit. Truth. My life is quiet desperation.
Wow, this did open my eyes, I have some of these symptoms,not all,but can relate to a handful of these. My husband definitely had the last one for years.
Yeah I can relate to this, never really connected deeply with someone though I've had friendships. I always either feel like a zombie, or like I stayed up all night. I usually watch TH-cam & just try to block out the world, it's very hard to get into hobbies 'cause I know I won't enjoy it. I remember one time a coworker said "You seem to have everything together" little did they know I was in the midst of NSSI. The big risk thing & I know it was really a big factor in the NSSI behavior, it was really the only thing that's made me feel.
11:50 The sixth sign; that, THAT!! OMG I know I'm not crazy and lazy, but why do I feel like I am, despite all the work that I do?? That symptom explained to a T how I feel every day! And it's worse for me because I do have ADHD.
"High functioning depression" oddly has a glamorous sound to it, which is probably why many can't believe it exists but we know it does. I should wear a shirt that says that to make people aware of how problematic it is for me.
The achievement driven vs insecurity thing resonated with me. I have achieved more than a lot of people I know but I keep wishing I felt a sense of acheivement so I keep trying to acheive more. I get the promotion or the house or the skill and it just doesn't hit.
Me to a t. Everyday, for years. Its very tiring.
Most people have always thought I'm extroverted. So curious. Depression is easing now. Of course now I'm 74 and retired and can isolate.
Better. But don't push it.
Please make a video about the difference between functional depression and dysthymia.
What's the solution for that then?
I totally needed to watch this... Im all 8 of those signs... which is y Im struggling with stuff in my life bc they cant or as I thought didnt want to see it... now I have a better perspective on y that is now...
Thank You
I've had high functioning depression since childhood. But about 10 years ago I became completely dysfunctional.
"Like an actor playing a TV show." Does "imposter syndrome" fit in here? I always feel that way . . . deep down, incompetent, but able to put up a productive front.
The worst thing about the cognition of depression imo, as I have experienced it, is that it does not feel like pessimism. It feels like realism. Like clarity. Like seeing without the optimism bias. It can be a long hard road from there to somewhere where you can believe in good things again. I'm not in the best period of my life right now, but I'm not in the worst, either. So, from my experience I would say: There are good things in life. Or there can be. But it can take a lot of work to find them. And to feel them.
Yes, please talk more about high functioning depression.
Even when I decided to spontaneously take the risk, cause it's like, wtf do I have to lose ? This may work out better than the shit life I've been living ! But simultaneously I'm thinking, man this is crazy !!! Betraying my safe depressed self, but admitting to my going no where self !
Why, why, why wasn't there a Dr. Scott in my early life of therapy ???
Welp. This really resonates. Thank you, Doc.
I would like more information on this. Thank you.
You are soooooo good. I am going to have to consult with you. I brought your book and it is exactly me. You understand this sooo much and I am so relieved that I am not alone. Even in a PHP program I am not believed that I am depressed. I've only had one doctor really fight for me and then the owner retired and I couldn't follow her. I feel I am always advocating for myself ...that I need help and support bc I am so low. This makes me more tired and wants to just check out here. I know now why people commit suicide and people are shocked. But no one really paid attention.
i definitely have this and would like to see more on this...
Thank you deeply Dr. Scott 🤍
This is spot on! Could you explain how is anger related to depression? Thank you!
That sounds like what im dealing with to a T. What to do about it?
Please let me go
I feel this so deeply! I just want to be done.
I check most of those boxes, I actually feel a bit better now 😊
Watching this video was like watching my own biography.
Not sure if this is me or not, but I basically do everything out of fear or insecurity. I’m trying to move over toward doing things because it’s what I want, but it’s really hard to figure out what that even is. I get so stressed and burnt out by work and all of the obligations in life, I’m just an empty shell by the end of the day. I don’t even watch shows or do hardly anything for pleasure. And yeah everyone sees me as some kind of go-getter. Couldn’t be further from the truth. But it’s like any alternative job or lifestyle I consider seems like it has its own stresses associated with it, so it’s like maybe I was just made the wrong way lol. I know that’s probably just negative thought patterns, but it’s hard not to see it that way. In a weird way I’ve become okay with it. Like maybe I should just throw everything else out and throw myself into work because I can’t seem to achieve any kind of balance, and trying to just stresses me out all the more. Maybe I should just sacrifice myself on the altar of capitalism. Okay venting over, have a good day everyone, don’t forget to stay hydrated lol
youve described me to the tee. I'd like to add that i feel numb and things really dont have any meaning. Everything feels mundane
Exactly-I am very tired too
Thank you Dr Scott, amazing content as usual! ❤ could I request a video on how to deal with, or improve cognitive dissonance? I feel very much stuck, confused; brain keeps going in opposite directions. I keep questioning myself and losing self-trust.
Boom 💥
Glad that “having 2 depression diagnoses” wasn’t in this list😮💨🥵
sounds like me
Has anyone tried agomelatine for anhedonia? I am considering it...
Can we potentially get a video on depression for those of us with some shades of ASD - for whom perhaps classic CBT designed for neurotypicals might not be well suited? I hear what you have said previously about finding a good therapist but i think the actual approach as a whole doesn't work as well. Btw i think i would also class myself as high functioning depressive.
I am a born again Christian and it scares me that I feel dead inside...
Catholic here, feel the same, but I think it’s a way to share in the suffering of Jesus?
@@squidward66 Jesus died to give us life more abundantly not to be depressed
Brilliant
when it comes to the Hobbies thing (#7), is it possible that #1 AND #7 could go hand-in-hand? let me explain.... If one is "highly accomplished" in a collectors hobby but they dont feel like their collection is "good"(even when it is), so they press on and collect more and are in a never ending cycle of what may be called "chasing the dragon"?
Can long term use of stimulants cause this problem of not feeling reward anymore? I'm trudging with no happiness other than playing with my roommates cat...
Most hv this look at this world
I feel so seen 👀
I feel seen.
how bad is high functioning deprs that over a long time goes into low, and no functioning, (home bound)? Decades of help, isn't helping.
Sounds like me... Perhaps it's the same as a high functioning schizoid?
1.high achievements but no emotional connection to them
2.quickly disassemble good things in their life
3. Acceptable addictions
4. No connection feel lonely regardless of social life
5.driven by insecurity and inferiority rather than something positive
6.never feel fully awake never feel 100%
7.hobbies feel like a waste of time stop doing hobbies
8.take big risk knowingly
Atp Doc can u just be my therapist, 😕😢
My colleague...workaholic and a wreck. Doesn't see it himself I guess. Or he does, don't know. It's hard to speak at the workplace. Maybe I'm wrong, like you say, they appear good functioning, but when you look closely...man... so obvious actually.
Isn't this just everyone just with different levels ?
Daaaaaaammmmmmmnnnnn 😑