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I was having a conversation with my buddy just the other day about hunting and its ability to really connect you to where you are getting your food from. It led to us talking about having a similar mindset when it comes to purchasing cloths and really any products that we consume. Great essay really struck a cord with me... really appreciate your mindset
Honestly, this is pretty spot on. I used to spend $25 dollars on cheap Wal-Mart boots for work every 6 or so months. I recently spent $230 on a pair of steel toe Thorogoods and they've lasted almost three years this November. Same with my Carharrt jacket. Spend more once rather than spending less more often.
I have a $230 pair of Thorogood's and like them. They are pretty good boots. I also have a $550 pair of Nicks boots. Trust me, get some Nicks. I actually have another pair of Nicks on order right now.
@@colemancalgary5260 driving forklifts, skiploaders, general labor and handling construction material like rebar, bags of anchor bolts and 50-75lb sacks of concrete mix. Didn't say my boots looked new, they just held up.
Dude, I bought a cheap sporty trousers in Decathlon and wearing them for 5 years already. Also I bought a 10 buck fleece jacket there 3 years ago, it is awesome, wearing it a few times per week
Thrifting is a good in between if you are on a budget, for example a couple weeks ago I found a silk dressing gown for 10 box and a Carhartt jacket for 7 box both look like new
I scored a mint condition Filson long sleeve at the thrift store and you can definitely tell the quality difference. Definitely keeping my eyes open for more scores like that.
I know Uniqlo is fast fashion, but for years it was the best I could afford. The quality is really good for the price you pay, and the items I own from them I have had for nearly 10 years now and I still wear them to this day. I appreciate that you mention that not everyone can buy expensive items, as sometimes it gets ignored or missed. Sometimes all anyone can do is the best they can for their situation, and that is enough
Few thoughts 1. Plain white t-shirts. I upgraded to Japanese well made white t-shirts. Felt great, well made etc. So far they haven't held up like I expected. Collars have gotten ragged and stretched out. Given they are hard to keep clean and I've been throwing them into the washing machine I'm hoping this is lesson in care vs quality. Compare with my old $20usd Graphic tee 10 years on. Holes in it only good for wearing casually, but I have no doubt it has another 10 years of life even if only as an emergency 'wash day's shirt So verdict on value of t shirts is out 2. Selvedge raw denim Upgraded to $200usd raw denim from $100usd 'fashion' denim. Would never look back. Gone from hardly wearing denim and it lasting a year or two (could be washing again) to wearing most of the time and still lasting. Variety of well made denim brands at the $200 mark. Easy enough to just buy half as often. I have no doubt I will not throw out a pair of selvedge denim... Well probably ever 3. Boots The 'Vymes' theory of boots gives us that the rich and wealthy actually pay less for boots than the poor. Basically cost per wear and available cash to afford the $$$ boots. Which means maybe low interest loans or pay over time to afford good boots should be a thing. For me even two sub $400usd pairs of boots is probably enough for 'ordinary' non trades people like me to get through several years. One marginally more dressy, one marginally more casual. Backed up by the same cheap sneakers and flip flops to cover certain occassions.
This reminds me of the time Jansport bags were cool as hell and were trendy. A lot of people bought them for the cool factor, then slowly moved on to trendier brands during that time and just left their Jansport bags to either be forgotten, or worse, thrown away. I stuck with mine from 7th grade all the way until around a year or 2 before my graduation from college and the only reason why I gave up on them was because the zipper itself couldn't close anymore and it was beginning to fall apart from the seam. Sometimes, some trendy brand would hold up for years, however, people just move on and sadly, they become a part of the growing waste from the fashion industry, however, paying more upfront to get better quality was my ethos after that and I'm grateful you're reaching out with such a message!
I bought a $30 fountain pen as a freshman in middle school and people thought It was stupid to pay that much money for a pen. I'm going to be entering college soon and I still use it everyday. Not bad little Pilot Prera.
I just wish there were more heritage options for women. And maybe more feminine looks would be nice too. I’m all about buying higher quality items, but sometimes I feel like it’s harder to find for women because fast fashion is more tailored towards women
There’s no doubt about that. It’s sad, and my wife echoes the same thing. There are some brands popping up though. Red Ants Pants, and Nicks offers a womens boot now too.
Great video Carl, i could not agree more. Although i have made bad choices in the past also. About the women options, My girlfriend is pretty happy with her Red Wings (i think this is also a brand fitting this way of thinking) and on her wish list is a pair of Railcar womens.
I have a beater outfit ready on days when I feel lazy and wanting to give my nicer stuff a break. Helps add more shelf life to the nice stuff because if I can wear beater stuff for 2 days out of the week, every week, I am extending the life of my clothes and delaying purchasing new stuff for a longer time.
I try to avoid buying made overseas when I can, in part due to the terrible work conditions we know they’re exposed to and also to try to support US businesses. They definitely don’t make it easy, trying to buy made in USA clothing. Like you mentioned sometimes the prices are way out there and other times they just don’t sell them in store. I recently bought Levi’s and wranglers, both we’re around $60, sure enough made over seas. When buying our newborn clothes, I’ve yet to find any made in USA kids clothes. Even being made over seas the prices are absurd, $30.00 for a jacket for a 10lb baby! Hell I’m 205 lbs and that’s how much my jacket cost, at least 5 times the fabrics. Sometimes it just makes you wonder what these companies are thinking.
I know, we went through the same thing. Going to Carters is basically a Chinese polyester explosion. We found some 100% cotton baby clothes and PJs but not made in USA. You’re right, you have to be like Indiana Jones to find them.
@@jahmanborneo1343 I agree 100%, but sadly brick and mortar are a dying breed. Just big box stores. My wife makes fun of me because I’d rather go to the store to buy something instead of just ordering it on Amazon. I think they do it because of ease of access to customers and they don’t always have the funds to open a store. It’s also more money they can put toward the products instead of having a store front with limited traffic and the funds going towards advertising. I know I’m guilty of going to a website and saying I’m not paying for shipping. I need to get out of that mentality and understand that sometimes these are mom and pop shops that can’t afford to pay for shipping for all their customers.
I found this video recently and it is “evergreen”. I agree that it is about choices. Sometimes you cannot afford the better made or more responsible product. But hopefully you have a choice. Personally I choose non Chinese made when possible. But I do not fault others for the decisions they have to make
Good stuff. There are things I really enjoy getting something a little better. Other things where good enough carries the day. And other areas where I have changed my mind over time. Category 1. Stuff where buy once, cry once carries the day. 1. Shoes and boots - As a guy with wide feet and a high instep, I have noticed the difference quality makes for decades. Good shoes and boots get better with age, and can be repaired. Cheap shoes wear out quickly, never look that great, and open are uncomfortable. 2. Shirts - Wear better. Fits better. Buttons don't fall off. 3. Wallets 4. Electronics. Includes old school stuff like audio gear, especially headphones and speakers, also TVs, computers, tablets and phones. 5. Cars 6. Pens - I cam around on pens to a point. A handful of decent pens, in my case a few Parkers, Fisher Space pens, and a few others made of metal not plastic were a revelation. I used to always be misplacing pens. Spending just a little bit on pens improved my life in a small, but noticeable way. 7. Underwear - the day I bought some Duluth Buck naked boxer briefs was a revelation. No more Hanes or Fruit of the Loom cotton briefs for me. 8. Technical wear. Under Armour shirts for working out or as undershirts in summer, heatgear in winter. Makes a difference. Category 2 - good enough 1. T. Shirts/Undershirts - The knockoff stuff they sell at Costco in packages of 3 or 4 is 90% as good as the name brand stuff at 1/5 the price. So for every day, it is good enough and nobody sees it anyway so it is fine. Hard wearing too. 2. Knives/multi tools - People go nuts for knives, but I find a basic Victorinox blade good enough for 98% of my every day cutting and multi tool needs. Others might need sharper or more robust cutting tools, but I am set. 3. Socks. Your basic Gold Toe work fine, and again, Kirkland wool socks from Cosco. I am always losing socks no matter what I do. I have tried fancy socks, but the basic ones work fine.
I couldn’t agree more. I had tons of outerwear and narrowed it down to 4 core garments: Ship John/Langlitz leather Wills for early spring and late fall, Ship John/Dehen N1 jacket for winter, a Ship John JT jacket for late spring and early fall, and a Stutterheim raincoat for rainy New England days. Each of these pieces make me feel great and the quality is unbelievable. Part of the fun of owning these garments is seeing how they patina over time, which makes long term ownership exciting rather than lusting for something new. The plus side is that it by default makes you more minimal which tends to shape your worldview on other things as well (eating better, traveling more, making more discerning choices,etc…). Love the message, Carl.
I definitely agree! I’m still working on it, but after the pandemic I realized I didn’t’ want to just keep spending money on new things, I wanted to enjoy what I have, but to do that, it had to be good quality that lasted. Thank you for introducing me to some great leather workers! The clothing that I used to throw I now donate to battered women’s and children centers.
This is precisely why I wear Iron Heart jeans and Nick’s Handmade boots. I only own a couple of pairs of boots and jeans now but it’s surprisingly enough when the jeans and boots are so well made with materials that will last. Basically I base most of my purchase choices these days around the Sam Vimes boot theory of socioeconomics. If you don’t know just look up Vimes boots and Terry Pratchett. Yes things like Iron Heart or heavy weight denim jeans and Nicks boots up front are a very expensive purchase, but I buy less because of it both in the number of pairs of jeans and boots I own but also in the number of times I buy the same thing. Equally the inverse is true with some purchases. Shampoo/shower gel and those kind of personal cleaning products. I used to buy “nice” shower gel. Not the most expensive but even reasonably priced shampoos or shower gels are quite pricey relatively. Now I just use coal tar soap. Cheap as chips and best of all very easy to take on a plane in carry on luggage without being stopped for having “too much liquid”. And a bar of soap is as effective if not more so than any shower gel, shampoo or liquid soap.
I recently did a short article for a newsletter regarding fast fashion and the value in buying used, repairing, or buying higher quality things that last because of this exact thing. Your channel is one of the things that drove this line of thinking for myself, and have been slowly replacing more of my things with better longer lasting versions as I need to instead of buying cheaper alternatives. Currently getting my first pair of nicks.
I live somewhere new pretty much every 6 months and I've been slowly pairing down what I own and have to pack around the country with me. I'd rather have a few things that are enjoyable to use every single time and can last for years at a time than having a bunch of stuff that doesn't last
That thumbnail made me do a double take. For some reason I thought that Nick's boots sent you that miniature boot they made and showed off for April fools.
I really appreciate you're sincerely sharing your thoughts with us as if you're speaking to a friend or your son. Thank you so much i am happy i found your channel
Great video, Carl! You’re absolutely right, and there’s a fine line to be drawn between quality and utter junk. I was thinking about the parity between brands like you mentioned, and some that you support on the channel. It’s a difficult case because while there are many small makers who are “Made in the USA” and are backed reputable companies, there’s 3 more scammers producing the same junk in the US at a fraction of the cost selling it off as the same “quality”. I believe that isn’t addressed enough regarding goods, and it’s important to weed them out. I stopped shopping at places like H&M, UNIQLO, etc a few years ago and haven’t really gone back. They’re also labeling “sustainable” on a lot of their pieces now as to keep the younger crowd interested when it’s made the exact same way as their standard line. Pretty interesting sub-topic called “green washing”. Companies like Patagonia are calling it out pretty frequently. I understand this channel isn’t about environment or sustainability but the process in buying quality goods has a direct effect on those things, so it is involved. You should read into it!
Yep, agree 100%, I've been living like that my hole life. Suddenly, 5 years or more for one 300.- pair of jeans don't feel that expensive anymore, comparing it with the 7 pairs of 100.- jeans you'd have bought in the same time. Or 3000.- on a MacBook Pro that easily lasts 5-7 years.
Outstanding channel. Keep it coming! I recently made a switch from poorly made products to high quality and longer lasting craftsmanship. Almost 2 years ago I really took a look at what I was tearing through and throwing away. And at a relatively quick rate. I started researching, I found a great community of TH-camrs and my fellow peers with a similar view. I am grateful for you and your channel. And the few other's I watch and follow. Thank you, Rawski 🤘🏻
Mostly agree, but I have to dissent on the issue of the Hanes 4 and 5 pack Walmart shirts. I prefer those to most any other T-shirts on the market for my work wear. I prefer their lighter weight in both summer and winter, and 2 packs will last me 2 years easily after which they replenish my shop rag bag. Cost per wear is pennies, and they are to me the most comfortable. Win/win/win.
Ive been watching you for years and watch pretty much every video. Over the past couple years as I've gotten better and better jobs I've been trying to buy more of my belongings with this philosophy in mind. But I haven't ever thought of the money we save when we buy cheaper, poorer quality items and costing those who make the items more than it should. Very helpful perspective to have. I just wanted to say thank you for the great work you do here on your channel.
But sometimes it doesn't work! For example I have been wearing my decathlon fleece jacket ($10 bucks) and decathlon trousers ($12-14) for 4 years already and everything is fine. I wear them quite often, a few times per week.
Between 1620 workwear, custom boots, merino socks and base layers ect. I do find less expensive items... at least for work... can be more comfortable. Like the cheap cotton t shirts that soak up sweat instead of the finer woven cotton tees that do not.
This is the right answer. I recently watched your interview with Dave Himel and he made a point that is invaluable. He said back in the day people would save up a week or 2 pay and buy a jacket that would last a lifetime. He goes on to say his jackets are effectively in that same price range now. Quality is worth the wait. Carl, what do you think of that Satchel & Page Montgomery jacket after a year of use?
It’s been about two seasons and I love it. If I had to complain about something I wish the lining were nicer. The rest is a thick, soft, wonderful jacket.
A man with a code. Good job Carl. Thanks for this non preachy psa. The reason I follow you was exactly because of this. I love buying things that fit , feel and wear great and show age properly throughout life. I’ve put some friends onto your channel so they can understand where I’m coming from . Your doing amazing man. Keep up the good work.
Carl you are still keeping up the great content and I really agree with your philosophy here. I also like that you addressed people's immediate response when you try to talk about it, at least with what you can buy more responsibly. Yet, we have our phones and other things and there really, at least for now, isn't much you can do on that front realistically. Any time I have these conversations just about why this or that may cost a lot upfront it's better and often cheaper in cost per wear as you said. Of course having something made just really well for you and that lasts and gets better with time is just icing on the cake! Good stuff brother.
My nicks overlanders are a bit tight still, even after 8 months, I think I should have we up a half size. So I watch your videos to make me feel better about the products I buy. Keep it up. 👍
Definitely adopted this strategy for shoes, but found myself buying more of better. Kind of like watching your video of your boot collection. The good news is that I pass along those good shoes to my sons as I'm on a journey to lose weight. That said, I'll be in the market for better clothes eventually and I'll apply these thoughts then as well.
This is great.. shopping for high quality vintage clothes to me is the other half of equation 👌 can't tell how much real happiness this less but better approach brings!
HEAR, HEAR! In motocross, the best is the best...If you have a $5 head, then get a $5 helmet! In terms of quality, I'd rather have too much and not always need it, rather than too little and wish I had more.
Have you tried the Jim Green Ranger? They say for every 10 rangers sold, they'll provide a pair for a ranger. The boot looks interesting and I was wondering what your opinion is on them.
Growing up my mom had to make my clothes.I was a hefty kid so clothes my size were more expensive from jeans to shirts. I still have a bowling shirt my mom made me 50 years ago and it still fits
I found a pair of Oak Street Bootmakers Chukka's at a thrift store. Hardly worn, it's a deal at 14.95.. The same boots are $468 new. Would I pay that..? Not sure. I would have a pair of Nicks or Whites if I was looking for a boot of that caliber. Price would be a big factor. All most bought a pair of Vibergs cause everyone says their boots are the best. Price was the factor. I did buy a pair of Chukka's from Rancourt. Over $300 and so far I like quality and he fit of the boot...Time will tell if they are worth the price. I do enjoy your channel very much and get a lot of information from you..
Good video Carl. And donate clothes and shoes that are in good shape, or sell them for next to nothing on email to be sure they’ll be worn. Buying good quality shoes and repairing them vs buying new junk shoes is perhaps the best example. Well done video. I just bought magic spoon, have tried it before and it is great! Gluten-free too. Happy to support you in this small way.
You have to be very careful because there are companies now willing to tarnish the brand name by slapping it on cheap stuff and overcharging. Paying more doesn't automatically mean you are getting quality and value for it. But yes, in general you are right about the trade off.
Great video Carl!!! I understand the need for inexpensive clothes, not all parents can afford high end clothes their kids grow out of in days. Companies that recycle like Patagonia should definitely be inspiration to how we do things in the future. I’m no tree hugging hippy either 🤣 just seems like the right thing to do.
I always say this to people. If i buy cheap stuff ill buy so many till i am happy and then realize it would have been better to spend all the money on 1 that i would be happy with instantly and would stop me from buying something else.
Food for thought, Carl. Your basic premiss is good. However, how does it account for owning 10,20,50,100 pairs of high end boots? Lots of guys on TH-cam bragging about their huge boot collections. 100 x $500 = $50,000 on just boots. The other mistake people make is that these high end boots "will last forever" or "you can pass them down generation to generation." Does anyone think that their grand kids want stinky, sweaty hand-me-down boots instead of whatever is popular at their stage in life? I am willing to state that the current boot craze will be over in the next 5 years. 10 at the outset. That makes that $50,000 boot "investment" worthless clutter and junk. I think a better approach is to purchase the best product you can get for the price you can afford, without considering whether it will last for the next 30 years. Because no matter how well it is made, and no matter how well it holds up, you will not be wearing it in 30 years, or even 2 years, if the current style dictates your high end clothing is out of style. Just the 2 cents from an old guy who's been there and done that. As always, thanks for the video Carl. I enjoy watching them.
I had my dad's old leather vest for 5 years. It was on it's last legs' and the inside was covered with cigarette stains. However, that was my most complemented clothing I've ever worn. So it all depends on what's being passed down and how it's taken care of.
That's where timeless fashion comes into play. People have worn plaid shirts for centuries. Same goes with denim and workwear type stuff. Spending 2500 on a skinny fit pair of couture pants that are mid-calf, I would 100% agree. But as is evident by our host, who wears his dad's coat, some stuff endures. I guess all this to say, if you care about trends then you'll never be satisfied. But if you buy what you like regardless of trend, then you'll be fine and you can wear whatever the hell you want.
I don't know about boots. But leather jackets even decent coats absolutely should stand the test of time. Even if the kids don't want them someone will.
Those boot guys get caught up in the consumerism , it’s a disease. I have two pair of high end boots one is a everyday wear the other dressier formal boots , I could have another pair of knock arounds but I’m happy with my cheaper chukkas. Jackets are something your kids will wear , I wore my dads cord jacket till I grew out of it.
Quality over quantity. Especially when it comes to boots, jackets, beds and tools that you regularly use. Cutting corners on any of those will always cost you more in the long run.
@@paulg3397 Kirkland are really good t’s. They are heavy weight and built to last a long time. I believe you have to order them from Costco now because I went looking and couldn’t find them at my location. But they are better than fruity looms and Hanes by far.
I believe in buying the best value item (i.e., best quality for the price). For example, I think Allen Edmonds shoes/boots fall into this class. They have the best leather and construction for the price, typically $300-$400. Some fashion rules, such as not buying wool blends with polyester, are outdated. It is important to be a savvy shopper.
It`s not weird concept at all Carl (at least for me and my household), the satisfaction and it`ll actually saves money in the long run...unless you became addicted to buying those fine things :)))
My only concern is a 75 dollar t shirt and you get a stain on it!! Lol now it’s worthless. I definitely agree with your view. T shirts and sweatshirts or gym clothes may not be worth the high prices but jeans, dress shirts flannels, boots etc all worth buying quality in the long run.
Exactly why I don't buy nice white ts. My closet is a mash up of Under Armour and heritage stuff. Not a lot of selvedge workout wear. Though it would probably fade faster...
You should never cheap put on shoes and a mattress. Like the old saying goes, if you're not in one you're in the other. The rest of the shit honestly, you don't really need. Sure, a good jacket, a nice pair of jeans and a few things to go with it you can get by with for a long time
The argument against the phone is that you can't get it anywhere else. For clothing their are brands like Origin, American giant that will give you jeans and everyday wear for a little bit more you're supporting the american economy all around with it. With a phone you just don't have that. That's why I won't buy Grant Stone because they are a direct competitor to american heritage boots and aren't competing on the same playing field.
I feel you, I have let my gut get too big the last year or so and have clothes that I can't wear or don't look good in. I exercise regularly and know what to do, about 6 weeks ago started getting my diet back in shape and have started doing IF and never thought I would like that feeding schedule but I really enjoy it now, I'm down 10 lbs or so in the last 6 weeks have a few more to go, bottom line is you can do it, start making small changes and you will get there! Cheers
I'll not be buying any more Filson products... and I have a lot of their stuff that I accumulated over about 25 years--all made from natural fibers e.g., wool, shelter cloth, tin cloth, and twill. The last thing I got was a coat that was made in Bangladesh... I didn't know that when I ordered it. Watch the movie cited, The True Cost, and see what that means. Filson is charging premium prices by trading on a name that used to stand for quality, durability, and made in American and now they are part of what amounts to the slave trade.
Buy cheap buy twice. Quality over quantity. Less is more. We in the west are horribly materialistic. Btw….Mercedes has a lower build quality rating than Hyundai, Kia or Honda……unless you spend $120k plus! The days of purchasing an MB/BMW etc and owning it for 30 years are long long over.
Absolutely agreed. I felt this way with my tools too. Sometimes a cheap tool will work, but there’s nothing like the satisfaction of using something of quality.
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I'm willing to try anything once‼️😁
Try ADOC boots made in Salvador
I've subscribed to this philosophy for a long time and is the biggest reason I've subscribed to the channel.
As I heard many times when I was a kid, buy the best you can afford, and be prepared to hold onto it for as long as possible. Great video! :)
I was having a conversation with my buddy just the other day about hunting and its ability to really connect you to where you are getting your food from. It led to us talking about having a similar mindset when it comes to purchasing cloths and really any products that we consume. Great essay really struck a cord with me... really appreciate your mindset
Thank you brother, cheers!
Definitely. One has a real respect for life when you take it so you can eat.
Honestly, this is pretty spot on.
I used to spend $25 dollars on cheap Wal-Mart boots for work every 6 or so months.
I recently spent $230 on a pair of steel toe Thorogoods and they've lasted almost three years this November. Same with my Carharrt jacket. Spend more once rather than spending less more often.
3 years? What are you doing? Bringing the coffee for the men?
I have a $230 pair of Thorogood's and like them. They are pretty good boots. I also have a $550 pair of Nicks boots. Trust me, get some Nicks. I actually have another pair of Nicks on order right now.
@@colemancalgary5260 driving forklifts, skiploaders, general labor and handling construction material like rebar, bags of anchor bolts and 50-75lb sacks of concrete mix. Didn't say my boots looked new, they just held up.
Dude, I bought a cheap sporty trousers in Decathlon and wearing them for 5 years already. Also I bought a 10 buck fleece jacket there 3 years ago, it is awesome, wearing it a few times per week
Thrifting is a good in between if you are on a budget, for example a couple weeks ago I found a silk dressing gown for 10 box and a Carhartt jacket for 7 box both look like new
Yes! sometimes they still have the tags on them. The other side of thrifting is donating the clothes you don't wear. it's like recycling!
100%
I scored a mint condition Filson long sleeve at the thrift store and you can definitely tell the quality difference. Definitely keeping my eyes open for more scores like that.
I know Uniqlo is fast fashion, but for years it was the best I could afford. The quality is really good for the price you pay, and the items I own from them I have had for nearly 10 years now and I still wear them to this day. I appreciate that you mention that not everyone can buy expensive items, as sometimes it gets ignored or missed. Sometimes all anyone can do is the best they can for their situation, and that is enough
True story! Their merino sweaters are great.
Few thoughts
1. Plain white t-shirts.
I upgraded to Japanese well made white t-shirts. Felt great, well made etc. So far they haven't held up like I expected. Collars have gotten ragged and stretched out. Given they are hard to keep clean and I've been throwing them into the washing machine I'm hoping this is lesson in care vs quality. Compare with my old $20usd Graphic tee 10 years on. Holes in it only good for wearing casually, but I have no doubt it has another 10 years of life even if only as an emergency 'wash day's shirt
So verdict on value of t shirts is out
2. Selvedge raw denim
Upgraded to $200usd raw denim from $100usd 'fashion' denim. Would never look back. Gone from hardly wearing denim and it lasting a year or two (could be washing again) to wearing most of the time and still lasting. Variety of well made denim brands at the $200 mark. Easy enough to just buy half as often. I have no doubt I will not throw out a pair of selvedge denim... Well probably ever
3. Boots
The 'Vymes' theory of boots gives us that the rich and wealthy actually pay less for boots than the poor. Basically cost per wear and available cash to afford the $$$ boots. Which means maybe low interest loans or pay over time to afford good boots should be a thing.
For me even two sub $400usd pairs of boots is probably enough for 'ordinary' non trades people like me to get through several years. One marginally more dressy, one marginally more casual. Backed up by the same cheap sneakers and flip flops to cover certain occassions.
Try the Kirkland tees. They’re AMAZING
This reminds me of the time Jansport bags were cool as hell and were trendy. A lot of people bought them for the cool factor, then slowly moved on to trendier brands during that time and just left their Jansport bags to either be forgotten, or worse, thrown away. I stuck with mine from 7th grade all the way until around a year or 2 before my graduation from college and the only reason why I gave up on them was because the zipper itself couldn't close anymore and it was beginning to fall apart from the seam.
Sometimes, some trendy brand would hold up for years, however, people just move on and sadly, they become a part of the growing waste from the fashion industry, however, paying more upfront to get better quality was my ethos after that and I'm grateful you're reaching out with such a message!
I bought a $30 fountain pen as a freshman in middle school and people thought It was stupid to pay that much money for a pen. I'm going to be entering college soon and I still use it everyday. Not bad little Pilot Prera.
Pilot makes some awesome affordable fountain pens. I think my model is called the metropolitan and I love it. Cheap too!
@@CarlMurawski The metropolitan is an awesome pen aswell. The cap and barrel of the pen is brass so as the paint wears away it should patina nicely.
I just wish there were more heritage options for women. And maybe more feminine looks would be nice too. I’m all about buying higher quality items, but sometimes I feel like it’s harder to find for women because fast fashion is more tailored towards women
There’s no doubt about that. It’s sad, and my wife echoes the same thing. There are some brands popping up though. Red Ants Pants, and Nicks offers a womens boot now too.
Great video Carl, i could not agree more. Although i have made bad choices in the past also. About the women options, My girlfriend is pretty happy with her Red Wings (i think this is also a brand fitting this way of thinking) and on her wish list is a pair of Railcar womens.
100%. I switched to this philosophy since I started on your channel 2 years ago. Only wish I started this earlier in life.
I’m glad to hear it!
I have a beater outfit ready on days when I feel lazy and wanting to give my nicer stuff a break. Helps add more shelf life to the nice stuff because if I can wear beater stuff for 2 days out of the week, every week, I am extending the life of my clothes and delaying purchasing new stuff for a longer time.
Good call on that!
I try to avoid buying made overseas when I can, in part due to the terrible work conditions we know they’re exposed to and also to try to support US businesses. They definitely don’t make it easy, trying to buy made in USA clothing. Like you mentioned sometimes the prices are way out there and other times they just don’t sell them in store. I recently bought Levi’s and wranglers, both we’re around $60, sure enough made over seas. When buying our newborn clothes, I’ve yet to find any made in USA kids clothes. Even being made over seas the prices are absurd, $30.00 for a jacket for a 10lb baby! Hell I’m 205 lbs and that’s how much my jacket cost, at least 5 times the fabrics. Sometimes it just makes you wonder what these companies are thinking.
I know, we went through the same thing. Going to Carters is basically a Chinese polyester explosion. We found some 100% cotton baby clothes and PJs but not made in USA. You’re right, you have to be like Indiana Jones to find them.
@@jahmanborneo1343 I agree 100%, but sadly brick and mortar are a dying breed. Just big box stores. My wife makes fun of me because I’d rather go to the store to buy something instead of just ordering it on Amazon. I think they do it because of ease of access to customers and they don’t always have the funds to open a store. It’s also more money they can put toward the products instead of having a store front with limited traffic and the funds going towards advertising. I know I’m guilty of going to a website and saying I’m not paying for shipping. I need to get out of that mentality and understand that sometimes these are mom and pop shops that can’t afford to pay for shipping for all their customers.
I found this video recently and it is “evergreen”. I agree that it is about choices. Sometimes you cannot afford the better made or more responsible product. But hopefully you have a choice. Personally I choose non Chinese made when possible. But I do not fault others for the decisions they have to make
Good stuff. There are things I really enjoy getting something a little better. Other things where good enough carries the day. And other areas where I have changed my mind over time.
Category 1. Stuff where buy once, cry once carries the day.
1. Shoes and boots - As a guy with wide feet and a high instep, I have noticed the difference quality makes for decades. Good shoes and boots get better with age, and can be repaired. Cheap shoes wear out quickly, never look that great, and open are uncomfortable.
2. Shirts - Wear better. Fits better. Buttons don't fall off.
3. Wallets
4. Electronics. Includes old school stuff like audio gear, especially headphones and speakers, also TVs, computers, tablets and phones.
5. Cars
6. Pens - I cam around on pens to a point. A handful of decent pens, in my case a few Parkers, Fisher Space pens, and a few others made of metal not plastic were a revelation. I used to always be misplacing pens. Spending just a little bit on pens improved my life in a small, but noticeable way.
7. Underwear - the day I bought some Duluth Buck naked boxer briefs was a revelation. No more Hanes or Fruit of the Loom cotton briefs for me.
8. Technical wear. Under Armour shirts for working out or as undershirts in summer, heatgear in winter. Makes a difference.
Category 2 - good enough
1. T. Shirts/Undershirts - The knockoff stuff they sell at Costco in packages of 3 or 4 is 90% as good as the name brand stuff at 1/5 the price. So for every day, it is good enough and nobody sees it anyway so it is fine. Hard wearing too.
2. Knives/multi tools - People go nuts for knives, but I find a basic Victorinox blade good enough for 98% of my every day cutting and multi tool needs. Others might need sharper or more robust cutting tools, but I am set.
3. Socks. Your basic Gold Toe work fine, and again, Kirkland wool socks from Cosco. I am always losing socks no matter what I do. I have tried fancy socks, but the basic ones work fine.
I couldn’t agree more. I had tons of outerwear and narrowed it down to 4 core garments: Ship John/Langlitz leather Wills for early spring and late fall, Ship John/Dehen N1 jacket for winter, a Ship John JT jacket for late spring and early fall, and a Stutterheim raincoat for rainy New England days. Each of these pieces make me feel great and the quality is unbelievable. Part of the fun of owning these garments is seeing how they patina over time, which makes long term ownership exciting rather than lusting for something new. The plus side is that it by default makes you more minimal which tends to shape your worldview on other things as well (eating better, traveling more, making more discerning choices,etc…). Love the message, Carl.
I definitely agree! I’m still working on it, but after the pandemic I realized I didn’t’ want to just keep spending money on new things, I wanted to enjoy what I have, but to do that, it had to be good quality that lasted. Thank you for introducing me to some great leather workers! The clothing that I used to throw I now donate to battered women’s and children centers.
This is precisely why I wear Iron Heart jeans and Nick’s Handmade boots. I only own a couple of pairs of boots and jeans now but it’s surprisingly enough when the jeans and boots are so well made with materials that will last. Basically I base most of my purchase choices these days around the Sam Vimes boot theory of socioeconomics. If you don’t know just look up Vimes boots and Terry Pratchett. Yes things like Iron Heart or heavy weight denim jeans and Nicks boots up front are a very expensive purchase, but I buy less because of it both in the number of pairs of jeans and boots I own but also in the number of times I buy the same thing.
Equally the inverse is true with some purchases. Shampoo/shower gel and those kind of personal cleaning products. I used to buy “nice” shower gel. Not the most expensive but even reasonably priced shampoos or shower gels are quite pricey relatively. Now I just use coal tar soap. Cheap as chips and best of all very easy to take on a plane in carry on luggage without being stopped for having “too much liquid”. And a bar of soap is as effective if not more so than any shower gel, shampoo or liquid soap.
I recently did a short article for a newsletter regarding fast fashion and the value in buying used, repairing, or buying higher quality things that last because of this exact thing. Your channel is one of the things that drove this line of thinking for myself, and have been slowly replacing more of my things with better longer lasting versions as I need to instead of buying cheaper alternatives. Currently getting my first pair of nicks.
I live somewhere new pretty much every 6 months and I've been slowly pairing down what I own and have to pack around the country with me. I'd rather have a few things that are enjoyable to use every single time and can last for years at a time than having a bunch of stuff that doesn't last
Project farm is an amazing channel. I’m watching a video from you and project farm every Sunday.
I’m a big fan even though I’m kinda late finding him. Great channel!
That thumbnail made me do a double take. For some reason I thought that Nick's boots sent you that miniature boot they made and showed off for April fools.
Awesome outlook!
I agree project farm is awesome and kind of satisfying to watch some of those tools get tested to their failure point.
I really appreciate you're sincerely sharing your thoughts with us as if you're speaking to a friend or your son. Thank you so much i am happy i found your channel
Great video, Carl! You’re absolutely right, and there’s a fine line to be drawn between quality and utter junk. I was thinking about the parity between brands like you mentioned, and some that you support on the channel. It’s a difficult case because while there are many small makers who are “Made in the USA” and are backed reputable companies, there’s 3 more scammers producing the same junk in the US at a fraction of the cost selling it off as the same “quality”.
I believe that isn’t addressed enough regarding goods, and it’s important to weed them out. I stopped shopping at places like H&M, UNIQLO, etc a few years ago and haven’t really gone back. They’re also labeling “sustainable” on a lot of their pieces now as to keep the younger crowd interested when it’s made the exact same way as their standard line. Pretty interesting sub-topic called “green washing”. Companies like Patagonia are calling it out pretty frequently.
I understand this channel isn’t about environment or sustainability but the process in buying quality goods has a direct effect on those things, so it is involved. You should read into it!
Yep, agree 100%, I've been living like that my hole life. Suddenly, 5 years or more for one 300.- pair of jeans don't feel that expensive anymore, comparing it with the 7 pairs of 100.- jeans you'd have bought in the same time. Or 3000.- on a MacBook Pro that easily lasts 5-7 years.
Outstanding channel. Keep it coming! I recently made a switch from poorly made products to high quality and longer lasting craftsmanship. Almost 2 years ago I really took a look at what I was tearing through and throwing away. And at a relatively quick rate. I started researching, I found a great community of TH-camrs and my fellow peers with a similar view. I am grateful for you and your channel. And the few other's I watch and follow. Thank you, Rawski 🤘🏻
Why is it that my expensive quality items get stained first but that cheap gap shirt resists all the stains and just goes forever.
Mostly agree, but I have to dissent on the issue of the Hanes 4 and 5 pack Walmart shirts. I prefer those to most any other T-shirts on the market for my work wear. I prefer their lighter weight in both summer and winter, and 2 packs will last me 2 years easily after which they replenish my shop rag bag. Cost per wear is pennies, and they are to me the most comfortable. Win/win/win.
Have you tried the Kirkland tees? They’re fantastic!
@@CarlMurawski I haven’t, but only because they never seem to have pocket T’s. Ahh needs mah pocket! 😆 I’ll have to give them a try sometime.
Ive been watching you for years and watch pretty much every video. Over the past couple years as I've gotten better and better jobs I've been trying to buy more of my belongings with this philosophy in mind. But I haven't ever thought of the money we save when we buy cheaper, poorer quality items and costing those who make the items more than it should. Very helpful perspective to have. I just wanted to say thank you for the great work you do here on your channel.
But sometimes it doesn't work! For example I have been wearing my decathlon fleece jacket ($10 bucks) and decathlon trousers ($12-14) for 4 years already and everything is fine. I wear them quite often, a few times per week.
Between 1620 workwear, custom boots, merino socks and base layers ect. I do find less expensive items... at least for work... can be more comfortable. Like the cheap cotton t shirts that soak up sweat instead of the finer woven cotton tees that do not.
This is the right answer. I recently watched your interview with Dave Himel and he made a point that is invaluable. He said back in the day people would save up a week or 2 pay and buy a jacket that would last a lifetime. He goes on to say his jackets are effectively in that same price range now.
Quality is worth the wait.
Carl, what do you think of that Satchel & Page Montgomery jacket after a year of use?
It’s been about two seasons and I love it. If I had to complain about something I wish the lining were nicer. The rest is a thick, soft, wonderful jacket.
@@CarlMurawski I plan on buying that jacket and it is soley based on your review, thank you Carl.
A man with a code. Good job Carl. Thanks for this non preachy psa. The reason I follow you was exactly because of this. I love buying things that fit , feel and wear great and show age properly throughout life. I’ve put some friends onto your channel so they can understand where I’m coming from . Your doing amazing man. Keep up the good work.
Thank you brother!
Carl you are still keeping up the great content and I really agree with your philosophy here. I also like that you addressed people's immediate response when you try to talk about it, at least with what you can buy more responsibly. Yet, we have our phones and other things and there really, at least for now, isn't much you can do on that front realistically. Any time I have these conversations just about why this or that may cost a lot upfront it's better and often cheaper in cost per wear as you said. Of course having something made just really well for you and that lasts and gets better with time is just icing on the cake! Good stuff brother.
My nicks overlanders are a bit tight still, even after 8 months, I think I should have we up a half size. So I watch your videos to make me feel better about the products I buy. Keep it up. 👍
Definitely adopted this strategy for shoes, but found myself buying more of better. Kind of like watching your video of your boot collection. The good news is that I pass along those good shoes to my sons as I'm on a journey to lose weight. That said, I'll be in the market for better clothes eventually and I'll apply these thoughts then as well.
Try ADOC boots made in Salvador!!
This is great.. shopping for high quality vintage clothes to me is the other half of equation 👌 can't tell how much real happiness this less but better approach brings!
That’s a very good point!!!
@@CarlMurawski Aaaaa!! The man himself! Thanks a bunch Carl 👌
Agree with you one hundred percent thank you for the hard work and time you invest
Great video Carl, I love this idea and how you go about explaining it. Well done.
HEAR, HEAR!
In motocross, the best is the best...If you have a $5 head, then get a $5 helmet!
In terms of quality, I'd rather have too much and not always need it, rather than too little and wish I had more.
Fortunately ive learned from my parents that this is a good motto to live by. Been doing this since I was about 12. Excellent video as usual!
Have you tried the Jim Green Ranger? They say for every 10 rangers sold, they'll provide a pair for a ranger. The boot looks interesting and I was wondering what your opinion is on them.
Great video, great philosophy and glad you are not staying quiet. Keep up the good work
Thank you! I’m just trying to help people avoid my mistakes.
Growing up my mom had to make my clothes.I was a hefty kid so clothes my size were more expensive from jeans to shirts. I still have a bowling shirt my mom made me 50 years ago and it still fits
I found a pair of Oak Street Bootmakers Chukka's at a thrift store. Hardly worn, it's a deal at 14.95.. The same boots are $468 new. Would I pay that..? Not sure. I would have a pair of Nicks or Whites if I was looking for a boot of that caliber. Price would be a big factor. All most bought a pair of Vibergs cause everyone says their boots are the best. Price was the factor. I did buy a pair of Chukka's from Rancourt. Over $300 and so far I like quality and he fit of the boot...Time will tell if they are worth the price. I do enjoy your channel very much and get a lot of information from you..
off topic....but what brand t shirt do you wear....and do you like side seamed or tube.....
Good video Carl. And donate clothes and shoes that are in good shape, or sell them for next to nothing on email to be sure they’ll be worn. Buying good quality shoes and repairing them vs buying new junk shoes is perhaps the best example. Well done video. I just bought magic spoon, have tried it before and it is great! Gluten-free too. Happy to support you in this small way.
I appreciate it!!!
I bought a pair of nicks builder pros because of this philosophy and specifically this channel, thank you Carl
Thank you dude!!!
@@CarlMurawski no problem, keep up the good work!
You have to be very careful because there are companies now willing to tarnish the brand name by slapping it on cheap stuff and overcharging. Paying more doesn't automatically mean you are getting quality and value for it. But yes, in general you are right about the trade off.
Yes.
@Carl Murawski do you think you could review red back boots?
Absolutely!
I love these kind of videos!
You do great work I agree with you 100%
Great video Carl!!! I understand the need for inexpensive clothes, not all parents can afford high end clothes their kids grow out of in days. Companies that recycle like Patagonia should definitely be inspiration to how we do things in the future. I’m no tree hugging hippy either 🤣 just seems like the right thing to do.
I always say this to people. If i buy cheap stuff ill buy so many till i am happy and then realize it would have been better to spend all the money on 1 that i would be happy with instantly and would stop me from buying something else.
Exactly! Two of the cheap item often ends up being more than one good one!
Food for thought, Carl. Your basic premiss is good. However, how does it account for owning 10,20,50,100 pairs of high end boots? Lots of guys on TH-cam bragging about their huge boot collections. 100 x $500 = $50,000 on just boots. The other mistake people make is that these high end boots "will last forever" or "you can pass them down generation to generation." Does anyone think that their grand kids want stinky, sweaty hand-me-down boots instead of whatever is popular at their stage in life? I am willing to state that the current boot craze will be over in the next 5 years. 10 at the outset. That makes that $50,000 boot "investment" worthless clutter and junk. I think a better approach is to purchase the best product you can get for the price you can afford, without considering whether it will last for the next 30 years. Because no matter how well it is made, and no matter how well it holds up, you will not be wearing it in 30 years, or even 2 years, if the current style dictates your high end clothing is out of style. Just the 2 cents from an old guy who's been there and done that. As always, thanks for the video Carl. I enjoy watching them.
Your right. But there will always be people that indulge in overconsumption.
I had my dad's old leather vest for 5 years. It was on it's last legs' and the inside was covered with cigarette stains. However, that was my most complemented clothing I've ever worn. So it all depends on what's being passed down and how it's taken care of.
That's where timeless fashion comes into play. People have worn plaid shirts for centuries. Same goes with denim and workwear type stuff. Spending 2500 on a skinny fit pair of couture pants that are mid-calf, I would 100% agree.
But as is evident by our host, who wears his dad's coat, some stuff endures.
I guess all this to say, if you care about trends then you'll never be satisfied. But if you buy what you like regardless of trend, then you'll be fine and you can wear whatever the hell you want.
I don't know about boots. But leather jackets even decent coats absolutely should stand the test of time. Even if the kids don't want them someone will.
Those boot guys get caught up in the consumerism , it’s a disease.
I have two pair of high end boots one is a everyday wear the other dressier formal boots , I could have another pair of knock arounds but I’m happy with my cheaper chukkas.
Jackets are something your kids will wear , I wore my dads cord jacket till I grew out of it.
Really waiting for that grease point review! Coming soon?
Quality over quantity. Especially when it comes to boots, jackets, beds and tools that you regularly use. Cutting corners on any of those will always cost you more in the long run.
Nicely said, Carl. Good post.
Very well said
other than the add for magic spoon... I agree with you 💯
Have you tried it though? Man that’s some good stuff.
I have a app where I count how often I wear my stuff to get a idea of cost per wear and what I wear the most 🙂
Speaking of t-shirts, I purchased a 6 pack of Kirkland brand t’s and they lasted for almost 10 years. I wore them just about daily.
Kirklands are great white t shirts. They run a little big but once you figure out your size they are way better than Hanes or fruit or the loom! Lol
@@paulg3397
Fruit of the Loom is so far the best ones i had! cheap and good quality
@@dreamingwest5561 I’m always looking for good white t shirts/ undershirts
@@paulg3397 Kirkland are really good t’s. They are heavy weight and built to last a long time. I believe you have to order them from Costco now because I went looking and couldn’t find them at my location. But they are better than fruity looms and Hanes by far.
Well said!
I believe in buying the best value item (i.e., best quality for the price). For example, I think Allen Edmonds shoes/boots fall into this class. They have the best leather and construction for the price, typically $300-$400. Some fashion rules, such as not buying wool blends with polyester, are outdated. It is important to be a savvy shopper.
Cool vid man
I’m just thinking the same now
Magic spoon is pretty good actually. Beats the generic tofu crunch fiber twig cereal for sure.
Nice flannel!!!!!!!
It`s not weird concept at all Carl (at least for me and my household), the satisfaction and it`ll actually saves money in the long run...unless you became addicted to buying those fine things :)))
My only concern is a 75 dollar t shirt and you get a stain on it!! Lol now it’s worthless. I definitely agree with your view. T shirts and sweatshirts or gym clothes may not be worth the high prices but jeans, dress shirts flannels, boots etc all worth buying quality in the long run.
Use it as an undershirt or add more stains and call it fashion. If it works keeps it.
Exactly why I don't buy nice white ts.
My closet is a mash up of Under Armour and heritage stuff. Not a lot of selvedge workout wear. Though it would probably fade faster...
" I am no tree hugging hyppie " - Carl Murawski
Great content
you just earned a subscriber for life.
I don't throw my old stuff away. I try and give them away. Or off to the thrift store
Project farm is the best!!
Love that channel!
You should never cheap put on shoes and a mattress. Like the old saying goes, if you're not in one you're in the other. The rest of the shit honestly, you don't really need. Sure, a good jacket, a nice pair of jeans and a few things to go with it you can get by with for a long time
I would like too see more videos , of U.S made workwear. Thanks for your videos 💪🏽💪🏽👏🏼👏🏼
I’m thinking of doing another 10 American made workwear brands since the first one was so popular!
As they say, “it’s very expensive to be poor.”
Tough subject
90% of the stuff you buy at Walmart will be in the landfill with in a year
Great philosophy, quality over quantity.
Shop small🤟
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you got a great voice. you should do voice over work for cartoons.
I certainly would, and thank you!
Love it 👍🏻
Buy quality you pay more but buy once
Omg he mentioned franks !
😮 Contrary to popular opinion, I have no issue with any boot company. It’s just that I can only remember three names at one time.
Funny , but I just want you to review a pair of franks .
@@calebaranzubia5707 I'm totally up for reviewing a pair!
The argument against the phone is that you can't get it anywhere else. For clothing their are brands like Origin, American giant that will give you jeans and everyday wear for a little bit more you're supporting the american economy all around with it. With a phone you just don't have that. That's why I won't buy Grant Stone because they are a direct competitor to american heritage boots and aren't competing on the same playing field.
Somebody needs to make a compilation of every time he’s hit and missed the hat rack.
WAY more misses than hits! 😆
I've become too fat to wear all of my quality clothes...
This is why this slim fit or skinny fit or trim fit trend was such bullshit.
I feel you, I have let my gut get too big the last year or so and have clothes that I can't wear or don't look good in. I exercise regularly and know what to do, about 6 weeks ago started getting my diet back in shape and have started doing IF and never thought I would like that feeding schedule but I really enjoy it now, I'm down 10 lbs or so in the last 6 weeks have a few more to go, bottom line is you can do it, start making small changes and you will get there! Cheers
I have 57 pocket knives. Now what. Lol.
I'll not be buying any more Filson products... and I have a lot of their stuff that I accumulated over about 25 years--all made from natural fibers e.g., wool, shelter cloth, tin cloth, and twill. The last thing I got was a coat that was made in Bangladesh... I didn't know that when I ordered it. Watch the movie cited, The True Cost, and see what that means.
Filson is charging premium prices by trading on a name that used to stand for quality, durability, and made in American and now they are part of what amounts to the slave trade.
Buy cheap buy twice. Quality over quantity. Less is more. We in the west are horribly materialistic. Btw….Mercedes has a lower build quality rating than Hyundai, Kia or Honda……unless you spend $120k plus! The days of purchasing an MB/BMW etc and owning it for 30 years are long long over.
I hate to be grammar stickler but my guy, it's "fewer things."
Buy once, cry once. Pride in ownership seems to be a lost value in this day.
Absolutely agreed. I felt this way with my tools too. Sometimes a cheap tool will work, but there’s nothing like the satisfaction of using something of quality.
I have just one pair of really nice underwear
Are they for date night ?
At least you can wear them backwards and frontwards.