BOSS Shotshell Review and Unboxing | Best Shells EVER?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ค. 2021
- Matt unboxes and reviews Boss shotshells for 20 and 28 gauges. Are they really worth all the hype? Find out if you need these for your duck and goose hunting trips this fall.
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I shot BOSS for the 1st time last season out of my 12 gauge. Once I switched over to them mid season I didn’t have another cripple. I liked them so much I bought a case for my 20 gauge. They do cost more and that’s tough for blue collar hunters like myself, but just eat pb&j for a month to save the money because they’re worth it.
The price is up there but well worth it in my opinion, if one can afford it
@@HighPrairieSportsmen agreed
Switched from 3 1/2” #2 steel to 2 3/4” #5 boss and was killing birds more consistently. Never saw another goose fly away after getting shot again
@@skunny2797 I used 3.5" BBsout of a 12ga on geese and just pulled feathers. Used 2.75" 4s out of a 28ga and didn't lose one. That made me a believer
@@HighPrairieSportsmen I had 2 instances under 30 yards where it looked like a feather pillow exploded and the goose flew straight away. After switching to BOSS, I went for headshots only too and it’s made a massive difference.
I’ve ever had a problem knocking birds down yet but this year I will be giving BOSS a try to see if it makes it better if an experience when it comes to reachability. Great clip bud!
Thanks man!
Good to see u. Hope ur summer going well brah.
Thanks!
Great review if the BOSS shot shells. You knocked them dead last season with the 28. I always liked watching the Tom Knapp shooting vids, wish I could shoot like he did.
Thanks man! He had skills for sure.
I tried out 2 boxes last season on sea sucks and divers and it CRUSHED them. No cripples or Insta-dives after hits. Gave some to my buddy in the next layout boat and he bought a case as well for this year cause he couldn’t believe how much better it was. My case arrives tomorrow after not being in stock for forever.
Nice! They do work for sure
Got a case back in April exited to try them this year
Only a few months to go!
Great review of your experience and outlook.
In every gauge, Boss is hands down one of the best non-tox loads you can get outside of using a Tungsten TSS 15 or TSS 18 load (and who can afford that for waterfowling?). The science of shotgunning says it’s better, and when you get the right gun/choke combo paired with it it proves to be true. This year will be season number 3 for me. I started with the 12ga loads and last year tried the 28ga and went in deep on the 10ga. The stuff just flat out rocks birds. It’s more forgiving on bad shots too as it anchors birds that are hit poorly long enough to swat or for the dog to get to. It’s not lead or the equivalent thereof, but it’s a lot damn closer in real world scenarios than steel (iron) shot.
Hands down, I am done with steel for regular waterfowl season. If I can save enough for it, i’ll run it stand alone in the ‘22 Snow Goose Conservation Order in 10 and 12 gauges too.
Regarding your 28ga Tri-Star having issues with the loads, it’s due to a tight chamber. The .410 and 28ga Turkish guns have tight chambers for some reason and this can cause issues with the French made Cheddite hulls that Boss uses. The Ched hulls tend to obturate a bit more than Italian and American hulls do with hot/magnum loads and when you combine that with a tight or slightly rough chamber you are bound to have a stuck hull once in a while. I had this issue with my Mossberg International SA-28 (for all intents and purposes, the same gun as the Tristar Viper G2 with very slight cosmetic and mechanical differences). The fix was to first rough polish the chamber with 0000 steel wool wrapped around an old 20ga brass bore brush on a hand drill running at high RPM. Once you made a good run of the chamber with that, use a 20ga bore swab/mop covered in fine polish such as Blue Magic or Mother’s on it and repeat the process. You should end up with a near mirror finish chamber that feels like glass to the finger. This should resolve your issues. Regular chamber brushings (every couple hundred rounds) will keep the tighter chamber clear of plastic hull residue and carbon deposits and improve reliability on any autoloader, but especially a tight chambered one.
Ultimately, if the above method does not improve reliability of extraction and the issue persists, I would buy a fine grit chamber hone from Brush Research and hone the chamber before you send it off to have the chamber reamed.
Hope all that helps. I have a video in my channel regarding a fix for my 10ga Gold 10 that was suffering from extraction issues due to a rough/out of spec chamber and this method helped her run right as rain with Boss.
Thanks man! I'll have to do that before season
That sounds like a good idea to do on any shotgun, smooth surfaces never hurt.
I used boss first time last year and i ended up doing great on late season mallards didn't have enough to chase late season goose but im going to be using it again this year i ordered more and can't wait for duck season
They get the job done for sure.
Awsome vid bro! Good luck hunting! I didn't even realize people hunted honkers n such with a 28 Guage. I'm not up with the times per say, always thought a min of a 20gauge would be required, then again I've never been waterfowl hunting, just know quite a few who have and still do, they all use 12 3inch min. Very informative and honest review!
Thanks! Here's a link to one of my 28 gauge goose hunts if you're interested: th-cam.com/video/CG3JEtQrnaI/w-d-xo.html
@@HighPrairieSportsmen Thanks! You the man!! 😀
Definitely planning on buying a couple cases this season. I lost probably 9-10 birds sailing them into other properties I didn’t have access to. Even watched the guys on the other property shoot my sailed birds a few times. It’s going to be a slow season with no water, but I’m still excited to see how boss works for me
Good luck! It should help with those birds sailing on you.
I know this video is older but thank you for a good honest review! I just recently bought a browning bps 28 gauge and was thinking about what shell to use! I ended up ordering the 3/5 shot from boss!
Appreciate it! Haven't tried the 3/5s myself but heard good things.
how did they work for you, seems like they would be good
New to your channel man and new to waterfowl hunting. Always great to see fellow Nebraskans on TH-cam. What part of Nebraska you in? (Don't have to give town names)
Welcome! I hunt all across the state.
I would always buy the $5 Winchester steel target loads for shooting cripples so I didn’t waste tungsten or bismuth loads but i found I stopped even packing them in the blind bag after I started using the Boss. Still have steel since I couldn’t get any Boss but hopefully have plenty for this season now.
I did the same
After seeing your videos and how well the Boss shells work I bought a case because I want to get more into layout hunting for divers and I know how tough they are to knock down. I bought the Boss warchief 3" 12 ga 3/5 shot I was going to buy the 2 3/4" but it wasn't that much more for the 3". They were not cheap I paid $420 for a case but I was buying black clouds and paying almost a dollar apiece for them. I'll have to wait until next November when our season in Fl starts up to see how well they work.
Hope they work for you!
GREAT SHELLS I ORDERED SOME 28GA # 5 BEEN WAITING FOR TWO MONTHS SILL NOTTING CAME YET USED THEM OUT OF MY20 GA LAST YEAR LOST ONLY ONE BIRD .
They're probably backed up right now. It took a few months to get mine but once they got the powder and primers in, I got them within a week.
I ordered some for me and a buddy. Awesome! Steel works but heavier stuff is better
It works great
Like the channel and the hunting videos....i have tried all the bismuth loads including boss and not been impressed at all. Lots of fragmentation. I had to look up penetrability to see if it was actually a word...good luck and cant wait for more videos
Thanks! I didn't see a lot of fragmentation personally but I've heard it used to be a lot worse with bismuth. It is something to point out though.
@@HighPrairieSportsmen cut open a shell and take a few pellets out....grab a ball peen hammer and see how much it takes to break them apart....barely takes a tap when ive done same test
Grabbed two cases of #5's for my 28 gauge. Can't wait to slap some ducks
Heck yeah!
I'm going to try to take my swan this year with a 28 gauge with either bismuth or TSS.
Nice! Good luck
I was having the same issue with one of my shotguns in the past (extractor ripping the rim on the brass) I found that the face of the bolt had made a small burr in the chamber from slamming into the rear of the chamber overtime. The Burr would hold the shell in and the extractor tries to pull it out then rips the rim. I polished off the burr and haven’t had a problem since, hope this helps!
Thanks! I'll have to give that a try!
I've been shooting 20ga 2 3/4" Boss for public land pheasants the past 2 seasons. It works pretty well. The main reason I use it, and Kent, is because I'm shooting a 50 year old O/U or an 80 year old pump. Bismuth is great for vintage guns that are able to take SAAMI spec ammo. Is it like lead...nope. People who say so aren't old enough to have shot lead at waterfowl. But out to 40 yards it's very good, and it does make me more picky on shot selection. Something that isn't a bad thing.
It definitely encourages better shot selection.
Almost got a case. Found some tss for better price. Yeah I was shocked too. Black cloud. Before it’s all over, I’ll probably get some for the 16 gauge.
Good call. Never shot tungsten but heard it's even better.
@@HighPrairieSportsmen will be the first for me. I did wrestle with the decision on which case to get. Find out in November.
Hey Matt, I know this is an older video but I just ordered some 7/8 oz #5 Boss for my 20 gauge and was wondering if you could attest to its effectiveness at ranges around the 40 yard mark since that is the same load you have been using for your 28 gauge? This is where I’m comfortable shooting ducks to and just wanted to make sure it has enough oomph to knock em dead at that range if need be. I shoot 95% wood ducks so there’s few big ducks involved in my hunts
Hello Nathaniel, I haven't taken many shots at that range but the few I have still brought ducks down (mainly mallards). With more pellets in the 20 gauge, you should be fine if you need to take a shot at that range. Pattern your gun with various chokes to see what offers the densest pattern at that 40 yard range. I also tried some 7s this year for a denser pattern at closer ranges (15-25 yds) and liked the results on mallards and other ducks.
I shot Bismuth for the first time last year. I'm a believer. Im pretty sure I won't go back to steel.
Same here. I won't be going back unless I run out
Steel*
@@hardwaterfreaks1828 haha.
@@hardwaterfreaks1828 give him a break. The Bucks lost last night
I could afford them, but I think that hevi metal or black cloud will do. Ammo is very important, but 295 is quite a bit for shells.
Understandable, they are a bit pricy.
Good review bud,,,,im in british columbia,,,,,,iv never heard of em before,,,,ill do some checking to see if available in Canada
Thanks! Check out the Boss Facebook group. They should be able to answer you fairly quick.
Limited experience with field performance, and as other said everything dropped-but shots 25-30 yards. However, inconsistent patterning out of 3 different shotguns. Yes, I was using factory and aftermarket full chokes. They are not using a full length wad, about 1/4" short. The shells I cut open had inconsistent cooper plating and numerous fractured pellets in the payload. Also, out of 8 used for patterning, about 1/2 ran almost 100fps slower through a chrono than their published 1350fps velocity. Big disappointment was no response from BOSS when using their site contact form about the issues. So, I'll finish shooting my case, and looking at other options for replacement.
That's odd. I've had great experience with their customer service, though I called them instead of using the website.
@@HighPrairieSportsmen I called first and received an automated message that said to use the web contact form for questions. This was in the spring, so things may have changed.
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Thanks!
Would you say that a mod choke on a 12 gauge would be good for 40 yards and below shots. If I am good I think it’ll be fine
No, I'd recommend full at that range with bismuth.
Matt question for you, do you ever notice a delayed death with bismuth?
I was running Hevi Metal #4’s this past season and there’s no doubt bismuth hits like a hammer. But I had multiple occasions where the ducks would fly another 100+ yards after impact and then go belly up and drop out of the sky, stone dead.
~Chris Costa
Funny you ask that, I had it happen a few times last season. I actually got one of them on video here:th-cam.com/video/kSNCum1rzS8/w-d-xo.html
@@HighPrairieSportsmen that’s exactly what I was talking about. I don’t know what it is about the bismuth that causes that. Glad I’m not the only one who has had that happen lol
@@FALhunter my best guess is it penetrates deeper and as the bird moves, just tears more up inside until it goes down.
What happens when boss's bismuth hits bone? From my understanding, bismuth normally shatters when it hits bone, has this been your experience too?
I've had a few fragment on me but not a lot. When they do, they only split in half.
Yes... The best hands down. I order it by the case. Gotta choke it down though.
Yep, seems to like full the best at distance.
@@HighPrairieSportsmen I shoot a Patternmaster Code black Goose... I can poke a duck with the 3/5 3" 12ga. #2 for geese. In fact, the wife said stop shooting the ducks with 2s... busting them up too bad.
Ozark that 3" #2 is a late season goose load. 2 3/4" #5 is their duck load. Could also step up to 2 3/4" #4 for killing both.
@@BeatRock253 That's what I bought them for was geese, but i ain't passing on legal ducks dumpin in the spread. Lol. It was late season too...
Can these be used in my vintage SxS shotguns? Shooting 1907 LC and 1923 Fox.
Should be able to. I'd message Boss and ask to be sure.
What size BOSS shot, length and sgotsize are your favorites. I got my ethos cordoba best showimg up tomorrow and am looking for 28ga suggestions on mallards and possibly a goose or two mixed in. Thanks matt.
I like 2 3/4" 5s for mallards and other ducks. Shot geese with it as well. Usually use 4s for geese. Trying some 3" 6s and 3/5s this upcoming season
@@HighPrairieSportsmen i just ordered a case of 3" 3/5 duplex loads from boss. Hoping it can be a decent all around waterfowl load for me. The ethos cordoba best is due to arrive thursday and im chomping at the bit to put it through its paces this weekend with grouse along the canadian border. Will be a much nicer to carry gun than my much heavier double barrel.
@@eduffy4937 how did you like the 3/5s? I just ordered some to use in my 28 this year in the 7/8oz loads. Love the duplex in my 12 gauge.
@@joshb.6166 I gave them a shot. A whole case worth. I can't say I hated them but patterning, or achieving a good pattern was nearly impossible in my particular gun. It just did not seem to respond to different choke constructions much and I tried all 5 tubes I had. The #6s on the other hand give me reason to not bother with any other shell. They're a sledgehammer on ducks and pattern exceptionally well.
What aftermarket choke tube is recommended to shoot the best boss shells
I use Carlson crematory work great
What aftermarket choke tube is recommended to shoot boss shells?
I used Carlson's mod and IC.
Curious why they use so much brass on their shells. Thanks
Not sure. You can ask the owners on the Boss Facebook page.
Wha was your effective range on ducks with the 5s.
Longest shot was 35 yards.
Never shot bismuth or tss,,, jus lead and steel, anyways does Bismuth Compress like lead? Or is it hard like steel
It compresses. It prefers a tighter choke for a better pattern as well. It's also denser than steel. Bismuth 4 shot is roughly the equivalent of steel 2s.
Painful. Love the hunting vids.
Thanks
Will you Continue to use bossshotshells from now on?
Yes, ordered several cases for my 28 ga and 20 ga.
super late to the vid, but with how expensive they are, and how well they preform, how many of y'all would pay 315-320 for a 200 ct case of a "pick your shot" case?
By that I mean if you didn't want to buy a whole case of #4's, but wanted a bit of everything? 7 for dove and pigeon, 6 for upland and teal, and 4,&3/5 for ducks and geese. And if you're into it, I bet 3's would be pretty good on predators. 2's even better if they come out with them
7s are more than enough for teal. Even on decoying mallards, 7s will fold them. I mainly use 5s on ducks but have some 4s for geese.
Case is now 350 fml. People say they fragment is this true? I don't want my kiddos eating internal mystery metal
They can fragment, just like other bismuth loads. I've only seen it personally a handful of times in hundreds of birds.
@@HighPrairieSportsmen I have 5 kiddos and won't want to risk metal shards. Guess I will stick to steel
Your hunting level is really great.
Every time I watch your video, it feels cool. I really hope to go to the wild duck with you one day.
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So let me get this right $270 gets you 8 boxes of shells in a bag, not boxed you have 2 boxes that you can load them into, at $33.75 for. Can’t you get tungsten for slightly more than this and it comes in a box lol
They're among the cheapest option for bismuth shotshells on the market. Tungsten loads are way more expensive and typically come in boxes of 10.
I don’t know where you get your tss shells at, but everywhere I’ve looked, tss is at least twice the price per shell, compared to boss. I just throw some shells into the waxed moneybag, toss that in my blind bag, and I’m good to go. Boss is by far the cheapest bismuth load (price per shell) on the market right now.
too bad they are so hard to get, always out of stock
Yeah, hard to keep up with demand I'd imagine
@@HighPrairieSportsmen yes, seems to be pretty high
In stock now
Kinda lame they dont box them all
It's to save on shipping costs I believe
am con fuzzzed. a case ??? miss alot i take it ?
More like hunt a lot