There's two more tweaks that can make the Wii look even sharper over HDMI; disabling the de-flicker filter with priiloader and, if you have an early model Wii, using the "480p fix" (not needed for later Wii models)
Pretty cool kit, I'd like to see a side by side comparison between this and an external adapter (ie Wii2Hdmi), to really gauge if the effort is worth the results. The Wii U v Wii HDMI is impressive.
@@dooglive922It's not. This is for folks who like to tinker and "build" or upgrade retro consoles. For most people soldering in an HDMI to get signal direct from the board is ridiculous. But if you're a nerd and care about getting the best possible signal quality to play retro games on your new TV (or to capture gameplay) this is it.
It is so strange that the Wii is a retro console now, thanks for the video! BTW; You can use your phone’s camera to have a nice view of smaller components on a big screen, you can even stream it to a desktop monitor too. For example; NDI HX Camera app, it uses NDI to send video over network, but there a lot more apps for this too.
I can't wait to get my unit once you get more stock! Voultar's video convinced me! I'll pay an installer (from your list) to install it properly. Not needing a loader just to fix the 480p bug, *and* ditching the Portta converter are two great reasons to buy the AVE-HDMI! Hopefully I'll be able to afford the RT4K or a cheaper digital scaler later for 1080p and 4K displays.
Mario Galaxy 2 also happens to automatically look correct in stereoscopic 3D. Dolphin supports SBS 3D in the settings, which will automatically work with any TV (or in my case digital projector) that supports DLP3D. With a high refresh rate pair of shutterglasses, on a wall sized projected display, it's quite the sight to behold.
I’m so impressed with all the system work I’ve seen you do!! I can never attempt anything like that. I got the New 3DS XL SDHC card updated and that was super easy and that’s all I can manage other than changing more SD cards on switches from regular to OLED and bigger. Congrats for all the work you do!! 😊
Great job with the installation. I would like to see a comparison to what I consider to be the best 'unmodified' option i.e. a Retrovision component cable going into a Retrotink5x. This is my set up and whilst the picture is vastly superior to the old composite cable it would be interesting to see just how good a picture you can get out of the old Wii
I didn't really find it to be that big of a difference when compared against component + OSSC combo. The AVE-HDMI removes the analog blur, but for some games, it's negligible, especially if it's something fast-paced. I had to really zoom and look for it to notice in some instances, and when it gets to that point, it kind of defeats the need.
@@rockapartie I'd say that the Retrovision cable is more heavily shielded as it is heavier and tends to be harder to bend than the official Nintendo one (which admittedly is very good)
Fortunately I still have a 40" HDTV with component/AV ports and can hook up my Wii with component cables and do 480p with deflicker filther OFF via USB Loader GX to reach the same level of sharpnes of a HDMI mod but I yeah, I get the reasoning behind this mod. Future proofing it for when fewer HDTVs with component ports are avaliable is imortant.
you all are missing the point i think. all 3 solutions listed will display a muddy analog picture over hdmi. this internal hdmi solution as well as the gchd take a digital picture from the graphics chip and then display that through the hdmi skipping the analog downgrade process you all will suffer from with your value solutions.
@@kev3226 using the internal hdmi mod this video is based on. it connects to the chip and pulls video signals from it before it gets descaled to analog. the value solutions i was talking about in the other comments above mine all would be solutions after the analog conversion process takes place internally. 1 comment said he uses wii component cables and gets same level of sharpness. he doesnt. it has been known for a while now wii gets worse component output then the gamecube. 2nd comment said he would use a rca to hdmi converter . that would display the analog converted image over hdmi and would still look worse. 3rd comment uses wii2hdmi block which also uses analog signal from component cables and then outputs that image over hdmi.
You should try using the latest usb loader gx and turning off the deflicker filter. I believe the wii implemented this to look better on CRT screens but it just blurs the pixels. If you really want a clean signal from wii I reccomend it.
I have installed 2 of these. The cable doesn’t lay completely flat due to a chip pushing up the top left via on the cable. That specific via is for sound so if you have no sound then you may need to double check that one.
I would LOVE to see some comparisons, especially with the HD Retrovision component cable, as it's often touted as the holy grail of stock video output for the Wii. And comparing the mod with a GameCube component cable (if you have one) would be interesting too, as this mod could very well be the cheapest way to get the cleanest picture quality out of GameCube games. Great video, as always Jon!
I like the idea of it. I have to build up my soldering skills a bit more but I like the idea of adding hdmi to older consoles. They need to do it for the PS2 as well seeming the ps1 has it done
I'd certainly love a comparison between component vs wii u vs hdmi wii. Would also love to see more of the gamecube. That seems like a more significant reason to do the mod when the Wii U doesn't support Gamecube games. I don't even want to imagine what the gamecube component cable goes for in this skyrocketing gamecube market. But it was expensive even back when I was still playing it.
I got a Clear Wii casing... Thought it would be easy. I took apart a separate Wii to practice, now I am intimidated. There is like 100 screws of different sizes and so many pieces that I can't remember where they go. I am going to work up the nerve to do it one day. I really don't wanna mess it up and fail to put it back together. Ive got a 2TB drive and a 512GB Sd Card that goes with it and don't want to mess it up.
@@Dash120z you are going to need a wii2hdmi to even plug an mclassic on a Wii since it lacks that hdmi port to begin with. But yes, with mclassic you get a better image than without.
As a novice I will say soldering the vias was the hardest thing I've done so far. I would recommend anyone who wants to do this to have a USB scope as mentioned or even a lighted magnifying glass so you can see through the holes of the flex pcb to the tinned vias when you're aligned. Took me flooding it with flux and trying it a couple times till all the pads had good connection but I got it in the end, very happy with the output and lack of added latency you get from external adaptors.
I still have my old Wii, and while composite isn’t the prettiest, it works. I’m hoping to find some official component cables, and use a RetroTink 5X to make it look good.
I think you mean component cable. The official Nintendo cable for the Wii is readily available at a reasonable price, but if you want a heavily shielded option the cable by Retrovision is a beast (with a price tag to match)
I would do this mod if my Wii still worked, but it had overheat problems where it would shut itself down and I haven't opened it up yet to test what might be the issue. Right now I just use the Wii-U for all my Wii/Wii-U games
I think as far as plug and play hdmi solutions go, the Mayflash adapter is the best for me. I had one of those cheap wii2hdmi ones, and they displayed a bunch of lines and interferences across the screen. After just two months using the damn thing the Wii stopped working with the adapter pluged in, the Mayflash ones may be pricier but it gives clear, pure 480p signal.
For me, the jump between this internal mod bypassing existing components and converting the original signal on the Wii isn't as big as say Svideo to component/RGB so a decent external HDMI adapter is probably a fair solution. Though would be good to see test screens from both.
Got one of those, but it interfered with the gameplay, the controller wouldn't respond and my character just stood there...reverted back to the original component cables by Nintendo
Using this mod for something like Super Smash Melee is pretty interesting especially with the competitive scene and how expensive nice CRTs are becoming.
It is. Any console two generations behind is retro. Now that PS5 is out, PS3 is retro. PS2 became retro when PS4 came out. Xbox 360 became retro since Xbox Series S/X is out. Original Xbox became retro when Xbox One launched. And finally, the Nintendo Switch is out, therefore the Wii is now retro. The GameCube became retro once the Wii U launched. If a console does not have a successor, it becomes retro when it's contemporaries do. Therefore, the Sega Dreamcast became retro when the PS2, GameCube and Xbox became retro.
Well it’s certainly not modern, and it can hardly be called “last gen.” It’s not even HD, and we are well past 720/1080 and comfortably in the 4K and pushing 8K domain now. I think it’s safe to call it retro, especially considering the Wii is basically just a revamped GameCube.
Specially when all games supported 16:9 aspect ratio and even lots of games actually only suported the aformentioned aspect ratio. Resident Evil 4 and Xenoblade Chronicles don't play well on a CRT because of that, image would display with the black bars up and down and your image would be smaller forcing you getting closer to the screen.
A modded Wii U with Nintendont set up correctly does give out very good results tho - you can get correct aspect ratio (not stretched) and the smoothing/upscale features of the Wii U don't ruin the image for me. The Limited vs full SRGB is not a night and day difference..its very subtle & doesn't hamper enjoyment of games on a modded Wii U. The controller (either pro or gamepad)on the Wii U is also much better than anything you can attach to an original Wii and makes the games more fun to play in my opinion. Nice mod tho - seems a bit overpriced @ $80 and would like to have seen normal HDMI not mini but your results look like a fun system.
I'm all for a comparison of this HDMI kit vs. some of the alternatives! I may be in the minority and I understand if the videos that get to the point quicker work better, but I thought I'd throw out there that I like when these types of videos are longer and more detailed like this one so we can see more of the process. Either way, thanks for the work you and Evan put into these videos!
Neat that this exists and it's certainly good from a future proofing perspective. My Wii is gathering dust currently, and I kind of doubt that having the convenience of HDMI would somehow make me play it more, but it's cool that it's an option.
I ended up finding out right before the Wii U had come out that there was a component cable for the original Wii. Luckily at the time I was able to find one for the $30 on eBay, which I believe normally they were really expensive. Then a couple of years later I ended up transferring everything over from the Wii to the Wii U.
I bought my component cables on eBay in 2010 for like $10.00 and I still have them until this day.. They wrapped up perfectly tight in my storage room.. Never would have thought they will stop selling them.. I wish I bought 2 of them at the time..
Would you happen to know if I can play survival mode on mw3 on my Wii U ? It's connected to wifi but last time I tried I think I got an error, I'm hoping it's just because I don't have a Nintendo account ID linked and not just not available anymore?
4:49 You forgot to mention a bad spindle motor, the spindle motor on my Wii drive went bad, I ordered a new one from Aliexpress and replaced it and it reads fine now. it was of course making a horrible grinding noise after putting everything back together and I had to take it apart again and bend that little piece of metal that holds the spindle and now it is not making the grinding noise. The Wii optical drive is very easy to work on though and you should always try and repair it first before just ordering a drop in replacement.
Given that there is an external adapter to HDMI, I fail to see the advantage of this modification. Probably if the output was 720p, I could see more difference, but 480p is really blurry anyway, so I did not see any improvements over my adapter.
A Wii U with mCable HDMI gaming edition, or wii with Wii2Hdmi adapter with mCable is a lot less frustrating but it will cost a little more since the cable is around $130. Theres a huge difference between using an mCable and not using one for both alternative solutions I suggested.
@DeadPig325 there's some kind of interference in the Wii with wii2hdmi adapter that makes strange noise appear on the screen with the mcable, and zero of these interference looking artifacts with the Wii U. That being said, the upscaling makes it look incredible in both situations. The Wii U seems to handle it better, in terms of filling the TV correctly and looking cleaner, though.
I would like to see a close-up on the pixels. Regular scale on TH-cam won't review the benefits of a digital versus an analog signal. Colors can be made to look very different depending on your display adjustments. I would like to see that with the N64 as well. Also compared to HDMI adapters, magnified.
You couldn't be more right about a digital microscope. I bought a basic cheapo a couple years ago and it's more than paid for itself with being able to find bad solder joints or bridged fine pitch SMT component leads. Once I'm finished building my new workstation I'll invest in one that'll be tied in to my 22" monitor that I can pull out from the wall when I need to use it.
I've actually found tvs that still use the rca type and hdmi! The TV is made by a company called HI Sense. They are not the best TV on the market but they definitely have a beautiful resolution and I'd put it up there with Samsung no problem. RCA is another that always seems to have rca inputs. Just in case ppl would like a TV with all those options!!
Does this hdmi port remove the deflicker filter? Or do you still need to launch discs and backups through USBlauncher with home brew to deblur the visuals?
I'm sure it's been said before, but I'll throw my hat into the ring on what I'd love to see this compared to! I'd really like to see how it compares to the Gamecube's own HDMI options. For me personally, because I have one, I'm interested to see how this Wii HDMI mod stacks against the EON GCHD.
You’d need a decent upscaler for a modern tv. The ossc can upscale the 480p signal to 1080p So imo mile may vary with this mod However it’s a great solution to get a modern signal out of the machine!
Cool mod! Back when I had a wii I used the component cables (nintendo ones too). Now a days ya you need, or must, have an hdmi output. I guess you could do a component to hdmi adapter if you needed to. The clear shell is cool too. I have clear joy con shells for my switch. EDIT: Yes I would enjoy a comparison video.
My HD TV comes with RCA and component cables so I don't have to take apart my Wii just to plug it in. I also have an RCA to HDMI adapter just in case I have a TV that doesn't support that. I don't like taking apart consoles if I don't have to and I am not very familiar with soldering. The only device I took apart was the PSP because there was all this gunk interfering with the buttons. The see through casing is pretty cool. The Wii is good at emulating GameCube games although I do have issues with N64 games.
This is always an issue with HDMI Wii mods. You try to look for one then they are out of stock or discontinued. Hopefully, there will be more in stock in the near future
I keep seeing people claim TVs don't have A/V ports, yet my cheap Roku and my LG OLED both have them... honestly, I haven't seen a TV in my local Walmart or Best Buy that don't have them.
I think you are confusing component with composite. Composite (red, yellow, white) is standard on just about every TV in existence. The video quality is very bad on composite. Component (Red, green, blue) on the other hand isn't very common. Most modern TV's don't offer a component connection. Even though it produces a much better picture than composite.
xbox 360 has a similar disk tray fault... its soo much harder to deal with since the nature of the problem causes the whole mechanism to be jammed tight and normally you need to eject the tray to get it apart, not an option with this issue so you just have to torgue the drive body after removing as much as you can until stuff springs out of place and can be slid apart
My 1080p tv has av/components ports. Which really helps with PS2 games via component cable. Nice improvement if you don't have a CRT or the space for it.
For the price buying a Wii U for a little more (not conting the Wii's price) is way more worth it as it will play most retro Nintendo console, you can play gamecube if you soft mod so even if the output is worse it's overall better
What’s a good way to practice soldering and desoldering? My kids have a broken charge port on a switch lite that needs replaced and I have no experience and can’t afford to have someone do it
@@yzois sure, but then you’ll never be able to play Wii U games, of which there are a lot that have never been ported over to the switch. Plus, the slightly faster processor in a modded Wii U is great for emulating NES and SNES. The gamepad is also not bad for emulating DS games from virtual console, although for DS, 3DS and GBA you’d be better off getting a 3DS IMO.
years ago, my little sister put a coin in my stepmoms wii disk drive. So today in the present, i have taken it into my own hands to open it and take the coin out.
Funny this video showing up now of all the times it could've. I just brought my Wii out of retirement. It has been sitting for 7 years. Plugged it in the other day. And it still works! But, since it's been so long. I no longer have games for it, or a sensor. Or even a Tv that can play it. So... I got some parts ordered. To clean it and get it back in a working order. As well as an upgrade, well... An adapter that converts the AV signal into a Digital one so I can use an HDMI. I mainly brought it back out as I remembered this very obscure game... Mad World. By Platinum Games, their first title. I was wanting to play it again as I have not seen it or heard of it in over 10 years. Pretty cool little game but sold very, very poorly. Probably due to it being exclusive to the Wii.
If you're a die hard Wii fan, this is fine. But converting all your 480i/p systems to HDMI seems like overkill. I currently just run all of mine through the OSSC and use a component switch. GameCube games look unreal. And if you hack your Wii, you can turn off the "deflicker" on the system level for an even better picture. RetroTink should be fine too without having to convert to HDMI but it would be good to see a side by side.
Do u use the usbloader gx settings ? To remove the blur stretch and problems with 480p ? Those are all settings on usb loader gx and it makes it look 20× better
Question for you, I've got a Wii with a broken helical gear (one of the ones on the shaft driven by the motor), you know anybody that sells just the gear or maybe the shaft with both gears? I hate to throw out the entire drive for a sub-1¢ piece of plastic.
The reason i wouldn't use one of those hdmi adapters that convert the signal over is because they all have a saturation problem. Colors over saturated. Does this method prevent that because we are not translating component to hdmi or even older composite for older consoles like snes and n64? Some of those cable adapters had ratio issues too but over saturation of colors or less good color was one of those issues so for a long time been wanting to get component cables for my wii at least. My TV fortunately still has component and composite.
There's two more tweaks that can make the Wii look even sharper over HDMI; disabling the de-flicker filter with priiloader and, if you have an early model Wii, using the "480p fix" (not needed for later Wii models)
Yeah the de-flicker can also be turn off in USB Loader GX. I didn't know you could do it in PriiLoader
There is actually a third tweak... Just get a wii u.
For the de filcker. Should I set it to normal, high, or off to get the rest results?
@@kr4t0sg.28 Wii games do not look better on the Wii U, the upscaling is very bad.
@@TruTrae i don't know but on my oled tv it looks just fine.
I would love to see a side by side comparison of the components vs HDMI Wii games.
Yeah...
Me, too!
Its not as noticeable on TH-cam but in person it is.
Pretty cool kit, I'd like to see a side by side comparison between this and an external adapter (ie Wii2Hdmi), to really gauge if the effort is worth the results. The Wii U v Wii HDMI is impressive.
Yeah, I was expecting an external adapter comparison as well. That's the easiest, most cost effective way to play Wii via HDMI.
It honestly does not seem worth the hassle...
@@dooglive922It's not. This is for folks who like to tinker and "build" or upgrade retro consoles. For most people soldering in an HDMI to get signal direct from the board is ridiculous. But if you're a nerd and care about getting the best possible signal quality to play retro games on your new TV (or to capture gameplay) this is it.
Doesn't the Wii U just play Wii games in HD?
@@Joe-qd7kdNo, it doesn't. The console has HDMI out but Wii games still only play at their native resolutions.
It is so strange that the Wii is a retro console now, thanks for the video!
BTW; You can use your phone’s camera to have a nice view of smaller components on a big screen, you can even stream it to a desktop monitor too. For example; NDI HX Camera app, it uses NDI to send video over network, but there a lot more apps for this too.
Time edges ever forward! The thing’s 17 years old. Super Nintendo was about that old when the Wii came out!
The switch is six years old. To some people that would make it a retro console.
@@RobbWes retro consoles have to be considered atleast 15 years old
Depends if your phone have macro lens
Awesome installation and well shot video! Glad to hear your experience with our kit went well!⚡
I can't wait to get my unit once you get more stock! Voultar's video convinced me! I'll pay an installer (from your list) to install it properly. Not needing a loader just to fix the 480p bug, *and* ditching the Portta converter are two great reasons to buy the AVE-HDMI! Hopefully I'll be able to afford the RT4K or a cheaper digital scaler later for 1080p and 4K displays.
Can't wait for you guys to release the schematic and chip code ;););)
Proof that spawnwave doesn't look at comments
I would have been interested to see how GameCube games ran on this.
He showed star fox adventure, but it would be nice to see more..
I was just about to say the same thing
GameCube has got its own HDMI solutions too.
@@muziqmuze I know but I have an extra Wii that I would be willing to crack open to mess around with.
about the same as component but upscaled a bit I guess
This is the kind of project I need to try. I've got a couple Wiis sitting around and could use one that I can actually play on my main tv.
Mario Galaxy 2 also happens to automatically look correct in stereoscopic 3D. Dolphin supports SBS 3D in the settings, which will automatically work with any TV (or in my case digital projector) that supports DLP3D. With a high refresh rate pair of shutterglasses, on a wall sized projected display, it's quite the sight to behold.
I’m so impressed with all the system work I’ve seen you do!! I can never attempt anything like that. I got the New 3DS XL SDHC card updated and that was super easy and that’s all I can manage other than changing more SD cards on switches from regular to OLED and bigger. Congrats for all the work you do!! 😊
God loves you
Great job with the installation. I would like to see a comparison to what I consider to be the best 'unmodified' option i.e. a Retrovision component cable going into a Retrotink5x. This is my set up and whilst the picture is vastly superior to the old composite cable it would be interesting to see just how good a picture you can get out of the old Wii
@@rockapartie pretty sure official cables are fine retrovision is just known for its high quality
I didn't really find it to be that big of a difference when compared against component + OSSC combo. The AVE-HDMI removes the analog blur, but for some games, it's negligible, especially if it's something fast-paced. I had to really zoom and look for it to notice in some instances, and when it gets to that point, it kind of defeats the need.
@@rockapartie I'd say that the Retrovision cable is more heavily shielded as it is heavier and tends to be harder to bend than the official Nintendo one (which admittedly is very good)
And Removing deflicker (extended) with USB loader GX gives the games a much clearer image!
Fortunately I still have a 40" HDTV with component/AV ports and can hook up my Wii with component cables and do 480p with deflicker filther OFF via USB Loader GX to reach the same level of sharpnes of a HDMI mod but I yeah, I get the reasoning behind this mod. Future proofing it for when fewer HDTVs with component ports are avaliable is imortant.
Even if I didn't have a TV with component/AV ports I can always use an RCA to HDMI converter.
@@zachtwilightwindwaker596 I just use that cheap Wii2HDMI block. It's just a little block that plugs into the multiport, but it works pretty good.
you all are missing the point i think. all 3 solutions listed will display a muddy analog picture over hdmi. this internal hdmi solution as well as the gchd take a digital picture from the graphics chip and then display that through the hdmi skipping the analog downgrade process you all will suffer from with your value solutions.
@@devskee2432How can I take the picture directly from the graphic chip and avoid analog conversion?
@@kev3226 using the internal hdmi mod this video is based on. it connects to the chip and pulls video signals from it before it gets descaled to analog. the value solutions i was talking about in the other comments above mine all would be solutions after the analog conversion process takes place internally. 1 comment said he uses wii component cables and gets same level of sharpness. he doesnt. it has been known for a while now wii gets worse component output then the gamecube. 2nd comment said he would use a rca to hdmi converter . that would display the analog converted image over hdmi and would still look worse. 3rd comment uses wii2hdmi block which also uses analog signal from component cables and then outputs that image over hdmi.
You should try using the latest usb loader gx and turning off the deflicker filter. I believe the wii implemented this to look better on CRT screens but it just blurs the pixels. If you really want a clean signal from wii I reccomend it.
You can turn off deflicker with the latest Priiloader as well, if you just wanna run games of your disc drive without USB Loader.
I have installed 2 of these. The cable doesn’t lay completely flat due to a chip pushing up the top left via on the cable. That specific via is for sound so if you have no sound then you may need to double check that one.
I would LOVE to see some comparisons, especially with the HD Retrovision component cable, as it's often touted as the holy grail of stock video output for the Wii. And comparing the mod with a GameCube component cable (if you have one) would be interesting too, as this mod could very well be the cheapest way to get the cleanest picture quality out of GameCube games. Great video, as always Jon!
Looks amazing. We need this for the PS2.
I like the idea of it. I have to build up my soldering skills a bit more but I like the idea of adding hdmi to older consoles. They need to do it for the PS2 as well seeming the ps1 has it done
That one’s in the works black dog tech is making one for phat and slim models iirc
I'd certainly love a comparison between component vs wii u vs hdmi wii.
Would also love to see more of the gamecube. That seems like a more significant reason to do the mod when the Wii U doesn't support Gamecube games.
I don't even want to imagine what the gamecube component cable goes for in this skyrocketing gamecube market. But it was expensive even back when I was still playing it.
I got a Clear Wii casing... Thought it would be easy. I took apart a separate Wii to practice, now I am intimidated. There is like 100 screws of different sizes and so many pieces that I can't remember where they go. I am going to work up the nerve to do it one day. I really don't wanna mess it up and fail to put it back together. Ive got a 2TB drive and a 512GB Sd Card that goes with it and don't want to mess it up.
Solder it yourself ? NOPE, guess i'll stik to my wii2hdmi adapter
You'd have to be friends or know Spawnwave to solder it ahah. I wish I knew someone like John to fix or mod my old consoles.
The quality is a shit man
Learn to solder man honestly it’s fun as hell once you start you’ll never go back. Now I’m fixing more stuff than I ever used to then ever before
the mClassic adapter is so much better than the Wii2HDMI adapter
@@Dash120z you are going to need a wii2hdmi to even plug an mclassic on a Wii since it lacks that hdmi port to begin with. But yes, with mclassic you get a better image than without.
As a novice I will say soldering the vias was the hardest thing I've done so far. I would recommend anyone who wants to do this to have a USB scope as mentioned or even a lighted magnifying glass so you can see through the holes of the flex pcb to the tinned vias when you're aligned. Took me flooding it with flux and trying it a couple times till all the pads had good connection but I got it in the end, very happy with the output and lack of added latency you get from external adaptors.
Great video! Love these ones where you turn a regular system into a race car. Very very cool man!
I still have my old Wii, and while composite isn’t the prettiest, it works. I’m hoping to find some official component cables, and use a RetroTink 5X to make it look good.
I think you mean component cable. The official Nintendo cable for the Wii is readily available at a reasonable price, but if you want a heavily shielded option the cable by Retrovision is a beast (with a price tag to match)
please do yourself a favor and get component cables ASAP
Get the retrovision component cables, because official ones run for 300 bucks.
@@waynetemplar2183I did. I spelt it wrong, and autocorrect changed it.
Alright, I edited it.
I would do this mod if my Wii still worked, but it had overheat problems where it would shut itself down and I haven't opened it up yet to test what might be the issue. Right now I just use the Wii-U for all my Wii/Wii-U games
I think as far as plug and play hdmi solutions go, the Mayflash adapter is the best for me. I had one of those cheap wii2hdmi ones, and they displayed a bunch of lines and interferences across the screen. After just two months using the damn thing the Wii stopped working with the adapter pluged in, the Mayflash ones may be pricier but it gives clear, pure 480p signal.
For me, the jump between this internal mod bypassing existing components and converting the original signal on the Wii isn't as big as say Svideo to component/RGB so a decent external HDMI adapter is probably a fair solution. Though would be good to see test screens from both.
Funny, I use one of those Wii2HDMI blocks. Had it for at least a year now, still working fine. Guess I got a lucky one lol.
Got one of those, but it interfered with the gameplay, the controller wouldn't respond and my character just stood there...reverted back to the original component cables by Nintendo
my tv still has component cables and its fairly new
Fantastic video! Always loved your system repair and mod videos.
I’ve had a Wii dual installed in my Wii for a long time it’s a game changer.
Several years ago I got an HDMI adapter that just plugs into the A/V out port. It works well enough for me.
if only the Wii had the ability to output native 720p it would've been a godsend.
to me it doesn't feel like the wii came out too long ago, but damn, 17 years.
Using this mod for something like Super Smash Melee is pretty interesting especially with the competitive scene and how expensive nice CRTs are becoming.
Yeah Wii2HDMI comparison would be nice
I would love to see a comparison of the dongle. I have the dongle and never had any problems, but this looks a lot better.
Component cables on a Sony Wega HDCRT is the best Wii picture I have ever seen.
Spawn wave just called the wii retro
2006… It, essentially is…
It is. Any console two generations behind is retro.
Now that PS5 is out, PS3 is retro. PS2 became retro when PS4 came out.
Xbox 360 became retro since Xbox Series S/X is out. Original Xbox became retro when Xbox One launched.
And finally, the Nintendo Switch is out, therefore the Wii is now retro. The GameCube became retro once the Wii U launched.
If a console does not have a successor, it becomes retro when it's contemporaries do. Therefore, the Sega Dreamcast became retro when the PS2, GameCube and Xbox became retro.
Well it’s certainly not modern, and it can hardly be called “last gen.” It’s not even HD, and we are well past 720/1080 and comfortably in the 4K and pushing 8K domain now. I think it’s safe to call it retro, especially considering the Wii is basically just a revamped GameCube.
it's kinda weird to consider 7th gen consoles retro, all of them have modern features we still use today: WiFi, motion controls, media functionality
@@disgustedluigi I’m sure Nintendo would like to disagree with the notion that we’re past 1080 lol, but yeah you’re absolutely right
I'm surprised Nintendo never made a Wii HD, seems like something they would do 🤔
called the Wii U
Called Wii U, is HD Wii
Specially when all games supported 16:9 aspect ratio and even lots of games actually only suported the aformentioned aspect ratio. Resident Evil 4 and Xenoblade Chronicles don't play well on a CRT because of that, image would display with the black bars up and down and your image would be smaller forcing you getting closer to the screen.
@@jaiden051 I knew someone would say that 😹
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A modded Wii U with Nintendont set up correctly does give out very good results tho - you can get correct aspect ratio (not stretched) and the smoothing/upscale features of the Wii U don't ruin the image for me. The Limited vs full SRGB is not a night and day difference..its very subtle & doesn't hamper enjoyment of games on a modded Wii U. The controller (either pro or gamepad)on the Wii U is also much better than anything you can attach to an original Wii and makes the games more fun to play in my opinion. Nice mod tho - seems a bit overpriced @ $80 and would like to have seen normal HDMI not mini but your results look like a fun system.
When you realize the Wii is as old as you and that it’s considered retro: WHAT?
I'm all for a comparison of this HDMI kit vs. some of the alternatives! I may be in the minority and I understand if the videos that get to the point quicker work better, but I thought I'd throw out there that I like when these types of videos are longer and more detailed like this one so we can see more of the process. Either way, thanks for the work you and Evan put into these videos!
Neat that this exists and it's certainly good from a future proofing perspective. My Wii is gathering dust currently, and I kind of doubt that having the convenience of HDMI would somehow make me play it more, but it's cool that it's an option.
it would be neat to see this paired with one of those nice 4k up-scaling cables too
Those cables are garbage. Better to wait for Retrotink 4k
@@timterrell8678 there are a few decent ones. digital foundry reviewed the mcable and mclassic that worked decently
Just buy a decent quality CRT and you don't need an upscaler. Native resolution and no lag.
@@drknstodstny4141 i was just saying it would be a neat thing to see in a video. not recommending how people should run their setups
@@FroggyTWrite all good my friend. I agree with you that It would be worth a look for sure.
I ended up finding out right before the Wii U had come out that there was a component cable for the original Wii. Luckily at the time I was able to find one for the $30 on eBay, which I believe normally they were really expensive. Then a couple of years later I ended up transferring everything over from the Wii to the Wii U.
I bought my component cables on eBay in 2010 for like $10.00 and I still have them until this day.. They wrapped up perfectly tight in my storage room.. Never would have thought they will stop selling them.. I wish I bought 2 of them at the time..
Would you happen to know if I can play survival mode on mw3 on my Wii U ? It's connected to wifi but last time I tried I think I got an error, I'm hoping it's just because I don't have a Nintendo account ID linked and not just not available anymore?
There is actually a Wii2HDMI adapter that does not require any system modifications. It fits into the AV in thingy. I have found it very convenient.
4:49 You forgot to mention a bad spindle motor, the spindle motor on my Wii drive went bad,
I ordered a new one from Aliexpress and replaced it and it reads fine now.
it was of course making a horrible grinding noise after putting everything back together and I had to take it apart again and bend that little piece of metal that holds the spindle and now it is not making the grinding noise.
The Wii optical drive is very easy to work on though and you should always try and repair it first before just ordering a drop in replacement.
I’ve been running a modded WiiU and can say the Wii games look great on it, this is a cool mod though an well worth the effort 😊
The lg cx still has av you just have to use the adapter that it comes with
Love watching these mod videos. I could barely put together a pi.
BS I bought a HDMI connector for the Wii long time ago works perfect.
No lag no nothing, not sure if it upscaled but it looked beautiful.
With this I wouldn’t need a retrotink 5x, the wii is the only retro console I want to hook up to my hdtv and make it look as nice as possible
very cool, but i use my wii u cause it condenses everything into one small form factor.
Given that there is an external adapter to HDMI, I fail to see the advantage of this modification. Probably if the output was 720p, I could see more difference, but 480p is really blurry anyway, so I did not see any improvements over my adapter.
There would be less input lag doing it this way, not exactly sure how much but it can be noticeable depending on the game.
Starfox looked great. I just replayed this on a GameCube with a dongle hdmi and your footage looked way better
A Wii U with mCable HDMI gaming edition, or wii with Wii2Hdmi adapter with mCable is a lot less frustrating but it will cost a little more since the cable is around $130. Theres a huge difference between using an mCable and not using one for both alternative solutions I suggested.
which is better considering the mcable
@DeadPig325 there's some kind of interference in the Wii with wii2hdmi adapter that makes strange noise appear on the screen with the mcable, and zero of these interference looking artifacts with the Wii U. That being said, the upscaling makes it look incredible in both situations. The Wii U seems to handle it better, in terms of filling the TV correctly and looking cleaner, though.
@@mattrandall1808 thx
I would like to see a close-up on the pixels. Regular scale on TH-cam won't review the benefits of a digital versus an analog signal. Colors can be made to look very different depending on your display adjustments. I would like to see that with the N64 as well. Also compared to HDMI adapters, magnified.
a CRT is way much better for all uses. doing HDMI for retro stuff is just not optimal.
You couldn't be more right about a digital microscope. I bought a basic cheapo a couple years ago and it's more than paid for itself with being able to find bad solder joints or bridged fine pitch SMT component leads. Once I'm finished building my new workstation I'll invest in one that'll be tied in to my 22" monitor that I can pull out from the wall when I need to use it.
I've actually found tvs that still use the rca type and hdmi! The TV is made by a company called HI Sense. They are not the best TV on the market but they definitely have a beautiful resolution and I'd put it up there with Samsung no problem. RCA is another that always seems to have rca inputs. Just in case ppl would like a TV with all those options!!
Does this hdmi port remove the deflicker filter? Or do you still need to launch discs and backups through USBlauncher with home brew to deblur the visuals?
Filter is in software so you'd have to use usbloadergx for a Wii
I'm sure it's been said before, but I'll throw my hat into the ring on what I'd love to see this compared to! I'd really like to see how it compares to the Gamecube's own HDMI options. For me personally, because I have one, I'm interested to see how this Wii HDMI mod stacks against the EON GCHD.
there's also a Wii "GCVideo" and the results are quite impressive
Performance, gamecube super mario sunshine runs smooth 60fps.on wii, framedrops on gc.
@@j.a.styles547 mario sunshine is 30 fps
You’d need a decent upscaler for a modern tv. The ossc can upscale the 480p signal to 1080p
So imo mile may vary with this mod
However it’s a great solution to get a modern signal out of the machine!
Cool mod! Back when I had a wii I used the component cables (nintendo ones too). Now a days ya you need, or must, have an hdmi output. I guess you could do a component to hdmi adapter if you needed to. The clear shell is cool too. I have clear joy con shells for my switch.
EDIT: Yes I would enjoy a comparison video.
Nice just bought a wii for 9.99 at Salvation Army yesterday with all accessories and two nunchucks and analog.
I plan on getting a Wii and component cables soon for emulating retro consoles using my CRT.
No need component tomplay 240p.
@@puni3094 Much Much better quality than RCA though.
@@ParanoidThalyyMVS That's for sure. ;-)
most TVs still have component but you need a little splitter to do it
My HD TV comes with RCA and component cables so I don't have to take apart my Wii just to plug it in. I also have an RCA to HDMI adapter just in case I have a TV that doesn't support that. I don't like taking apart consoles if I don't have to and I am not very familiar with soldering. The only device I took apart was the PSP because there was all this gunk interfering with the buttons. The see through casing is pretty cool. The Wii is good at emulating GameCube games although I do have issues with N64 games.
Don't forget quarters! I've repaired PS3 and Wiis multiple times that were filled with quarters in their disc drives!
This is always an issue with HDMI Wii mods. You try to look for one then they are out of stock or discontinued. Hopefully, there will be more in stock in the near future
I keep seeing people claim TVs don't have A/V ports, yet my cheap Roku and my LG OLED both have them... honestly, I haven't seen a TV in my local Walmart or Best Buy that don't have them.
I think you are confusing component with composite. Composite (red, yellow, white) is standard on just about every TV in existence. The video quality is very bad on composite. Component (Red, green, blue) on the other hand isn't very common. Most modern TV's don't offer a component connection. Even though it produces a much better picture than composite.
Would be grate to see the Mclassic used in tandem with this mod
xbox 360 has a similar disk tray fault... its soo much harder to deal with since the nature of the problem causes the whole mechanism to be jammed tight and normally you need to eject the tray to get it apart, not an option with this issue so you just have to torgue the drive body after removing as much as you can until stuff springs out of place and can be slid apart
Yeah show some more Gamecube running on hdmi signal through the wii ..a comparison of sorts with and without side by side!
You should use homebrew on that and play with the deflicker and buffer screen size options, it would look even better
I've been using the Wii with a component cable with an old small Samsung LED and the results are stunning
My 1080p tv has av/components ports.
Which really helps with PS2 games via component cable. Nice improvement if you don't have a CRT or the space for it.
These are really cool videos to shine a light on keeping libraries current!
Is there any kit to have HDMI out for the 3DS?
Thank you for making this video. Where did you get this case from?
For the price buying a Wii U for a little more (not conting the Wii's price) is way more worth it as it will play most retro Nintendo console, you can play gamecube if you soft mod so even if the output is worse it's overall better
What’s a good way to practice soldering and desoldering? My kids have a broken charge port on a switch lite that needs replaced and I have no experience and can’t afford to have someone do it
That's nice and all but getting a Wii U seems simpler
the Wii U doesn't upscale Wii games it just stretches the image to fill the size of your TV
Wii U also does not play GameCube games. So, not the same.
@@DragonfireRC a modded Wii U can play ripped gamecube games natively. no emulation.
More wiius are becoming ewaste by the day, getting a wii is just cheaper and easier
@@yzois sure, but then you’ll never be able to play Wii U games, of which there are a lot that have never been ported over to the switch. Plus, the slightly faster processor in a modded Wii U is great for emulating NES and SNES. The gamepad is also not bad for emulating DS games from virtual console, although for DS, 3DS and GBA you’d be better off getting a 3DS IMO.
What soldering iron would you recommend to safely perform this mod?
For the drive for jacking out the disc
To fix that just push a disc in
years ago, my little sister put a coin in my stepmoms wii disk drive. So today in the present, i have taken it into my own hands to open it and take the coin out.
Funny this video showing up now of all the times it could've. I just brought my Wii out of retirement. It has been sitting for 7 years. Plugged it in the other day. And it still works! But, since it's been so long. I no longer have games for it, or a sensor. Or even a Tv that can play it. So... I got some parts ordered. To clean it and get it back in a working order. As well as an upgrade, well... An adapter that converts the AV signal into a Digital one so I can use an HDMI. I mainly brought it back out as I remembered this very obscure game... Mad World. By Platinum Games, their first title. I was wanting to play it again as I have not seen it or heard of it in over 10 years. Pretty cool little game but sold very, very poorly. Probably due to it being exclusive to the Wii.
How would this look with the Mclassic ?
If you're a die hard Wii fan, this is fine. But converting all your 480i/p systems to HDMI seems like overkill. I currently just run all of mine through the OSSC and use a component switch. GameCube games look unreal. And if you hack your Wii, you can turn off the "deflicker" on the system level for an even better picture. RetroTink should be fine too without having to convert to HDMI but it would be good to see a side by side.
It's nice to see more HDMI kits for Wii, I got the Wii dual years ago and It has been unavailable for a long time now
I have Yamaha audio receiver with HDMI out. It can upscale anything that inputs up to 4k
I bought my first wii in 10 years not too long ago for this exact reason, its a good console to mod and theres tons of them.
I got mine recently and it's currently being installed by one of Electron Shepherd's listed installer.
Do u use the usbloader gx settings ? To remove the blur stretch and problems with 480p ? Those are all settings on usb loader gx and it makes it look 20× better
My Wii has ALL of the NES, SNES and Sega Genesis games ever made plus some PS1 and N64 games.
Of course! Makes sense that they're using a Xilinx chip.
Question for you, I've got a Wii with a broken helical gear (one of the ones on the shaft driven by the motor), you know anybody that sells just the gear or maybe the shaft with both gears? I hate to throw out the entire drive for a sub-1¢ piece of plastic.
If you already have a low latency capture card, shouldn't upscaling with OBS theoretically give the exact same result as a retrotink?
I already have an HDMI port for my Wii, its my Wii U. 😅
6:19 would this be the case for a Wii U as well? The disc drive is broken and I don’t know how to fix it. I’ve been trying for a few years now.
The case looks sick is there a link to purchase it?
The reason i wouldn't use one of those hdmi adapters that convert the signal over is because they all have a saturation problem. Colors over saturated. Does this method prevent that because we are not translating component to hdmi or even older composite for older consoles like snes and n64?
Some of those cable adapters had ratio issues too but over saturation of colors or less good color was one of those issues so for a long time been wanting to get component cables for my wii at least. My TV fortunately still has component and composite.
what mini hdmi converter did you get?? and if you could provide a link would be awesome!