Ankle Syndesmosis Injuries | Expert Physio Overview
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.พ. 2023
- In this tutorial, we use our 3D anatomy model to show you the anatomy of the ankle and syndesmotic ligaments to explain how they can be injured, how they can be diagnosed and how to treat in practice.
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Hi, do you have a clinic where you provide treatment?
Hi Khalid, what an unbelievable video. You have helped me so much, thanks a lot!!
You’re very welcome! Hope you can enjoy our other content too!
Hi Khalid, thanks a lot for the work you are doing ,am PT student in Ethiopia. i am suffering for lower back pain for one year duration and my x ray result show that i do have a schmorl' s node , i hade try some exercise but no help, what do you think i have to do next?.
Two weeks ago I tripped down a gutter. Right ankle rolled like you described.
The paramedic described it as an “inversion injury” and the hospital kept this description. My doctor updated it to an “eversion injury” when I described it to her.
The result was an Avulsion fracture medial malleolus - and after a further xray a Proximal fibular fracture.
Apparently this small twist ricocheting up the leg to break the top of the fibula is a strong indicator of sydnesmotic injury - an MRI confirmed this, and I’ve had surgery Thursday to tie the tibula and fibula together.
Seems a complicated injury. All focus is on the syndesmotic injury, nothing on the ankle or fibula - apparently the Fibuka is only mildly displaced so it will heal on its own. I got DVT too.
The biggest problem for me now is that the advice I’m given assumes a high ankle sprain, and contradicts advice for Fibula fracture and DVT. Makes it hard to manage.
I’m learning. Appreciate your video. I’m not an athlete, just a 51yo teacher who didn’t look where he was stepping.
So sorry to hear about your troubles, I hope you are making your first steps of recovery. Absolutely do ask your medical team if you are unsure about what you should be doing for rehab 🙏🏼
Thank you, this helped me with the clinical conference ;)
I'm so glad! Thank you for watching!
Brilliant video and clearly presented. Thank you, I now have more knowledge on how to recognise and treat this type of injury.
Thank you so much Jason!
Thanks
Most welcome!
Great thabks
Most welcome!
Sir i am from India
Trans syndesmotic frature of the left lateral malleous is noted (weber type B)
Does i need surgery
Informative thank you. I recently fractured my distal fibula and rupture my pitfl. I needed surgery to fix it.
Wishing you all the very best with your recovery!
Hi, great video! I was wondering what app did you use for the 3d anatomy
Hi! We had this app created for us by software developers so that we could use it for our teaching 😊
Have two anchors (syndesmosis) from my tib to fib from a platform fracture ORIF, thankfully they are coming out because they were suppose to break and allow more flex
Wishing you all the best!
Hi, may I ask what software you use to show the 3D models of the body and injuries? great videos btw, always very helpfull!!
Thank you so much! It’s our own individual model that was made for us by software developers, we’re very grateful for it!
@@ClinicalPhysio thanks for the reply, keep up the great work!
What about grade four😭 so frustrating cannot find anything out there for someone who’s went through tight rope fixation and aims to return to sport. Struggling with dorsiflexion and no one can give me any ideas on how to improve it other than general mobility and knee to wall exercises! So so frustrating
I would absolutely suggest that you see a physiotherapist for this!
@@ClinicalPhysio oh my god thanks so much for the reply! Going to a physio every week to try get my R.O.M back. But such a slow process and feel like I’m making little to no progress ( in terms of dorsiflexion).
I also read the whole report you cited and linked - it unfortunately doesn’t delve into grade 4. However still found this video so beneficial, as I had a very poor understanding of what exactly I got surgery on and this video explains it so well and eased some of my concerns.
You’ve earned a subscriber 🙂🫡
Hi Khalid, very interesting videos as usual. Are you a Liverpool football fan :)?
Thank you! No not a Liverpool fan 😂
Hi. My name is Andrew (I was in med school for a couple years and then had to quit for many reasons so if I call something on my knowledge it comes from there, I’m not a doctor so I may be wrong, please excuse me and feel free to correct me)
I had grade 3 syndesmosis injury almost 2 months ago. The pain was incredibly terrible and I’ve had ankle injuries before due to sports but after two weeks it didn’t seem to be healing properly.
Also I may add that the space between my first two toes was numb, with time I’ve recovered the sensitivity in it, but it still feels funny. (I am assuming I somehow damaged the deep fibular nerve)
My injury was a trauma due to fall, I fell on another’s person foot and my feet had a sudden and very violent inversion (as most ankle rolls)
The Xray revealed I had an avulsion fracture the size of a needle head in the tip of the fibula.
Doctors said that was gonna hurt for a while but they couldn’t do anything about that and it would heal by itself, same as the lower ankle ligaments, they would heal by themselves.
They said I needed fixation surgery because of the syndesmosis, and the plan is 12-14 weeks of non-weight bearing after the surgery with a boot 24/7 only allowed to take it out in the shower.
After that , another surgery to take the screws out, followed by rehab training
A month after the surgery I got cleared to do physical activity as long as it didn’t involve my leg so still non-weight bearing.
My concerns/questions are…
I am really feeling the desire of walking on my feet. The pain is gone and I haven’t tried to move my ankle at all, I want to go back to sports and to my normal life so, what can I do to help the healing process during this non-weight bearing time?
And also what can I do to have a great rehab and stronger ankles after they take the screws out?
Also I feel like 12-14 weeks of absolute no use of the leg is crazy, isn’t it too much? I am at 6 weeks so far and feel like I count start doing some crutch walking or something.
Is the funny feeling of the DFN innervation something I should be concerned about?
This was a great video, very useful and complete.
Thank you.
Thank you again Khalid for the great contect. Can you test the SM without making a dorsalflexion in the ankle (like the Dorsiflexion External Rotation Stress Test)?
Hi! Yes you can always try Kleiger’s test without DF if you wish and then compare to with DF
Would this typically show up with bruising or swelling? My ankle is sprained with the calcaneus and talus ligaments but no bruising or swelling
Hi! If you are concerned I would always suggest getting assessed properly by Dr or a physio
@@ClinicalPhysio I did that, that’s how I know it’s sprained. Was just interested in the fact that I have no bruising
I’ve had an Syndesmosis Injury back in december 2021 and it’s healed a little bit but I still have very bad dorsiflexion and external rotation,Its been very long and nhs take long too do everything and I just want to get back to football💔.
🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 wishing you all the very best
Amazing! Big thanks from Berlin! @ClinicalPhysio. I was diagnosed with "Rupture of the anterior syndesmosis + Avulsion fracture of the anterior talofibular ligament" Your video really helped understand what this is. I had most pain in mz Achilles tendon in the days/weeks after the injury, any ideas why this might be? (No achilles damaged was mentioned in the MRI results)
Hi! Thank you so much for your kind words, and im sorry to hear about your injury 🙏🏼
It may have been just due to overload in the initial stages where Achilles may have had to work harder to compensate for your injury? But if you have further concerns then I would suggest getting it reviewed 🙏🏼
Tschuss!
Doesn’t the squeeze trees bring the ligaments together and not apart???
It does indeed push the tibia and Fibular together… but if the ligaments are not intact, it will push the talus away from the fibula which may be what causes pain with the test. That’s why we squeeze at mid tibia rather than at the ankle joint
@@ClinicalPhysio 😊
What about ankle fracture
Absolutely! We have a webinar on this in November!
Why didn’t you talked about the period of recovery time for grade 4 ?🥲😂
Period depends with management..