I'm a diehard Harley guy but I just can't justify their prices. I can afford them too. I always buy a 2 year old used bike with less than 5K miles on it and I instantly save $10K. I can't see where the $30K is when I look at these bikes.
Same here. Love Harleys. My wiife has one and I have one. However, decided to keep my old one and purchased Kawi Concours 1400 for a fraction of price, to go fast when I feel like it.
Good on you Bill, same here paid 10 K Australian for my sportster custom ,3oookm chick I got it from kept in her lounge room n paid 23 K for it , with the exchange rate new bikes all seem very pricey USA , happy travels
I bought a road glide ST last year for my first motorcycle, best decision ever after a little bit of help and a 2 day training course from the dealership
Jerry, on the head pipe subject; I installed a Supertrapp open head pipe on my 2020 RKS. Along with a set of Kerker mufflers. The open pipe got rid of the catalytic converter which improved acceleration, sounds way better, and reduced heat generation along the right side of the bike.
Hi Jerry. Just bought the same bike a few weeks ago from Patriot Harley in Fairfax Virginia. Put 2300 miles on it before storing it for the winter. This is my 4th Harley but haven't been in the seat for 5 years. Saw your channel and have been practicing what you teach. I'm 55 next month but never too old to learn new tricks. Appreciate you brother. - FBINA 215
@@Drillinanpiping Right on brother. Just so you know, I paid $35,000 out the door for my ST. I hope you have a good experience. I'd recommend talking to a guy named Davis if you have questions. If you decide on an ST and want to upgrade to a stage 2, you won't have to pay for a larger cam since it already comes with a 117. Just something to think about when making a decision on which one to buy. Stay safe my friend.
Yea I was estimating around that especially since I’ll need a 2 up seat off the bat with the ST, and of course it will need pipes. Haven’t had a Harley since my 05 Fat Boy but I miss that beauty and have always wanted a nice bagger and these ST’s are my kinda style especially in the white sand pearl. Magnificent. I’ll definitely ask for Davis. Thanks brother, be safe out there.
many of our roads down here in Australia are in poor shape due to recent floods. I hit a few big pot holes on my road trip and I was pleasantly surprised with how stable it is. Not even a shake of the bars. it just sailed across them. I did get bounced out of the saddle on a couple of them but no worse than my Heritage would have. In the corners the bike holds a line beautifully, really impressed with the handling for a bike of this size and weight.
Hi Jerry, your in my brothers vicinity. At end of Eastwood and Peace Blvd we’re house with Stars and Stripes, hope to meet up sometime. God bless and hello to Miss Donna.
glad I bought my RG ST in feb of 22' bc the price was $30K and the 23' RG ST at the same dealership I just seen was up to $34k. I absolutely love my ST and my 12' RG but aint no way in hell someone can justify $53k on one of those new CVO's
Love this model Harley does everything very well plenty of power and handles well mileage good great for curves and all day touring , I added a razor tour pac and Bassani exhaust .
Thanks for the report. Just looking to buy a '22 and the Street Glide is up there. I would like a Touring with Lowers and Tour Pak but liquid cooling and all the other excesses of the Ultra are just more stuff in the way. Harley Davidson would like you to stop calling them crash guards. They prefer that the Fronts are Engine Guards and the Rears are Saddle Bag Guards.
I went to a K1600B from an Ultra classic, the bike is great more gadgets and gizmos than I’ll ever use and plenty of power. But I do miss the character of a Harley but can’t justify the prices, mines paid for so I doubt I’ll switch anytime soon.
Nice looking bike. I have a 2020 Streetglide Special with taller HD772 Ohlins shocks, way better than stock, rides great. Gonna stick with this for another 3 years I reckon. Love the bike.
Why not a rigid frame with a Knuckle engine? I know everybody who's getting old need Comfort, but I invest on a Airhawk pillow under my ass, and problem solved
My buddy bought a SG not long ago, he has put some serious miles on her without issue. I think it is a gorgeous bike, and one I would purchase... But... The way my friend is treated by the dealer, I believe they soaked him good, and continue too. But, it is his money, and he is happy... I'll keep my Yamaha.
Nice bike. I bought a 21 blacked out RG Limited and that will probably be my last bike. My health is going down faster than VP Harris so I’ll probably just ride this one until I can’t.
Man, a bike like this with the 117, the different suspension, the “performance” tune, and all the little extras, would be a huge hit if it were just reasonably priced!? Not cheap. Just reasonable. $24-$25k and I would be all over that bike! Of course, I would guess that Harley isn’t having too many problems selling these bikes as is.
What year is your bike? I been looking at the ST models. I currently have a 2017 softail slim S. Love that V-twin. But I am torn about either trading it in or just buying the ST & have both. I might be riding the ST more often lol!
Picked it up on Friday, next day I headed to my fathers place in Queensland, 3 days in the saddle and 2100KM later an I can say I'm impressed with it. Wind buffeting beat my brains in for the first couple of days so I dropped into a dealer and put on a new screen and some adjustable wind deflectors. Much improved
Hi Jerry, great video, very professional as many others from you. I just purchased a black ST, too. Would you please tell me what brand the drop guards are? Maybe I will need it 🙂Thank you.
Steven Waller, the Hammock seat is worth it. Two longest trips that I have taken with it, were to North Carolina and back home from Sturgis. (North Carolin, about 1400 miles Sturgis trip about 5000 miles.) I only use the Hammock seat on long trips. Go to your local dealer. They'll have a demo one for you to put on your bike.
Thnx for the info enjoy ur posts and am considering the tab slip ones and also the phone holder and cup holders ...from ur site... seem like great products thnx
Did you have to do any tuning when you added the slip-on mufflers? When I added some slip-on mufflers on my ST it caused the engine to surge at idle sometimes. I'm going to do a tuner to take that out, I think the fact that the bike is free flowing from the factory once I added the additional free flowing mufflers it changed the tune or it can't tune for it by itself.
I went with the 4'' Tab mufflers with the medium baffles and the bike runs perfectly. No tuner needed. Now, if you get 4.5 or 5'' mufflers with the zombie baffles or no baffles, I could see the computer not being able to adjust itself enough.
@@motorman857 Ok, I see. I have the Cobra Ravens slash cut 4 in mufflers, they have a steel baffle inside so I just don't know. I plan on doing a head pipe later so I'll just get a tune when I do that. Thanks for the info man.👍
I love the looks of the Street Glide ST....just not the color options it's available in. But I have a 2020 Street Glide Special with the RDRS so I'm loving my ride.
I appreciate the review as this would be likely one of the only HDs I'd ever consider owning but $27g's? Uh, nope. I know bike brand/model is a personal preference but I'll never understand HD's outrageous pricing, out of the hands of average bike owner, like myself. I'll stick w/my '15 FJR1300.
Jerry do you have any experience riding with the Rekluse or EFM auto clutch? If you do, would you please make a video on your thoughts and experience? Thank you Sir
My buddy has the SG, I believe with the 114 motor. It is kind of a bear to work on, designed so that an owner will get disgusted and take to the dealer for service. They do not want you wrenching on your bike, at least that is my perception when I had to dig into his, long story, will not bore you.
Great motorcycle looks fantastic and fun to ride, I too have one same color I was thinking about buying a goldwing so happy I got the ST I think one of the best bike Harley Davison has made low speed hiway this bike does everything good 👍
I have never owned a Harley Davidson Motorcycle, but I would definitely be interested in the Street Glide ST. I really like the looks and the power with the 117 motor must be awesome! I also like the extra clearance the bike has. One concern would be the air cleaner possibly getting in the way of my leg or knee? I ride a Victory Cross Country Tour and am used to plenty of leg room. Great video😎😎👍
@@chgofirefighter I wish I hated them! It would be MUCH less expensive for me. But unfortunately as soon as I saw the FXLRST and the new CVO Road Glide, I was absolutely smitten!
I have the 22 road glide st , got the s&s and screaming eagle race tuner. Thought it was going to be minimal stage 1 performance and sound. I was surprised and happy. The ST is unbelievable handling the turns compared to a standard. I would recommend stop, turn lamps on the rear Saddle bags. The 117 is a great feature, I find myself going 90 mph way more than any other Harley I have ever owned. I would like a nice touring seat, for 500 - 600 mile days.
I wouldn't expect it to take out the trash or do the dishes but I would expect it to be comfortable and enjoyable to ride under all conditions (country roads, interstates etc.)
Love Harleys but it's not worth any where near $30k to me... I was a road king classic owner and am thinking of buying a leftover ultra this year. I think at that price the ultra is the only way to go, Harley's are not sport bikes nor meant to be in my view. I'm also a sport bike owner. Harley is selling fewer motorcycles these days partly due to the pandemic probably, and Indian affecting them, but arguably the most compelling reason is overall price and tied to that the BS add-on charges by dealers then atop that the Harley surcharge. I think the dealer gouging is turning people off. Even the die hards. Not sure about the supply chain issues in terms of how bad they still are today, hopefully soon at some point that will improve but wondering aloud if it will be disclosed as companies feed their greed. I see dealerships going down. Large spaces with lots of overhead. Their bikes are simply out of reach to most these days. Becoming a niche brand. Just had a Harley dealer close near me. Sad to see, love the history. be well !!!
I prefer ground clearance as well. I want to lean my bike with minimal effort and the higher the bike the easier it seams to get it to lean. I’ve pulled up next specials on the ferry and my FLHR standard has much more clearance.
I'm riding Harley and I was interested in the new SG ST and I had a test ride with it. Here in Europe the bikes have to be sold according to the Euro 5 regulation. Means for a HD: different exhaust systems and air intakes. The performance of the bikes are not as good as they are in the US and beside this, the "sound" is boaring. The comfort of the SG ST is in my opinion a joke. A firm suspension in combination with a seat, that reminds me on race bikes made by Ducati. I expected much more of this bike and was really disappointed after the test ride. The most horrible thing is the price. Here in Austria it starts at 41.000€ !!!!! This bike is absolutely no option for me.
The good news is nobody will force you to buy one. Although, pretty soon, the government will force you to buy an electric motorcycle, by regulating combustion engines out of existence.
@@motorman857 Hi Jerry, of course the SG ST is a good looking bike, but I was a little bit disappointed when I have ridden it. That is that, what I wanted to express.
Most Harley riders around here have touring bikes but they don't do any touring. I have a cruiser (2018 Deluxe) and I drive ten times as many miles as they do - but just in giant 100-200 mile circles, back to home. I like the retro look like Motorman's Electra Glide Revival but the new style Harleys don't do much for me.
I own a 22 Gray ST. It was the bridge for the gap between Ducati's/sportbikes for me, into HD. The only AWFUL things about HD so far are the dealer service departments; they are absolutely diabolically bad. HD corporate because it's gone so woke. And a LOT of HD people who hate you because you have a bike they cannot have for whatever reason. I've been riding since 1970, raced sportbikes, ridden everywhere. Yet, for some reason, in HD culture, a lot of you just act like spoiled little brats because someone has a bike you don't. Pathetic.
Best Harley so far. That white sand pearl is in another level. It is expensive, but my goodness! The spirit, sound and feel you get....priceless.
There will be hundreds of people saying things about your bike but only one will say WOW, I love it.
I'm a diehard Harley guy but I just can't justify their prices. I can afford them too. I always buy a 2 year old used bike with less than 5K miles on it and I instantly save $10K. I can't see where the $30K is when I look at these bikes.
Same here. Love Harleys. My wiife has one and I have one. However, decided to keep my old one and purchased Kawi Concours 1400 for a fraction of price, to go fast when I feel like it.
Good on you Bill, same here paid 10 K Australian for my sportster custom ,3oookm chick I got it from kept in her lounge room n paid 23 K for it , with the exchange rate new bikes all seem very pricey USA , happy travels
Dealers near me still want basically msrp for 1 to 2 year old used touring bikes
Like my grandfather said. "The fool and his money are soon parted."
@@SF-jp6qy contours are for Losers! Scrap that junk an get a real harley!
I bought a road glide ST last year for my first motorcycle, best decision ever after a little bit of help and a 2 day training course from the dealership
Hi I am just wondering because I’m thinking of buying one too was that your first time ever on a bike or did you already have experience?
Jerry, on the head pipe subject; I installed a Supertrapp open head pipe on my 2020 RKS. Along with a set of Kerker mufflers. The open pipe got rid of the catalytic converter which improved acceleration, sounds way better, and reduced heat generation along the right side of the bike.
Thats one sweet sled! The ST is in a class by itself and I'd rather have that bike vs the new $50K+ CVO'S
Hi Jerry. Just bought the same bike a few weeks ago from Patriot Harley in Fairfax Virginia. Put 2300 miles on it before storing it for the winter. This is my 4th Harley but haven't been in the seat for 5 years. Saw your channel and have been practicing what you teach. I'm 55 next month but never too old to learn new tricks. Appreciate you brother. - FBINA 215
I’m in Winchester VA and plan to check out Patriot Harley this weekend to find myself a Street Glide special or ST.
@@Drillinanpiping Right on brother. Just so you know, I paid $35,000 out the door for my ST. I hope you have a good experience. I'd recommend talking to a guy named Davis if you have questions. If you decide on an ST and want to upgrade to a stage 2, you won't have to pay for a larger cam since it already comes with a 117. Just something to think about when making a decision on which one to buy. Stay safe my friend.
Yea I was estimating around that especially since I’ll need a 2 up seat off the bat with the ST, and of course it will need pipes. Haven’t had a Harley since my 05 Fat Boy but I miss that beauty and have always wanted a nice bagger and these ST’s are my kinda style especially in the white sand pearl. Magnificent. I’ll definitely ask for Davis. Thanks brother, be safe out there.
many of our roads down here in Australia are in poor shape due to recent floods. I hit a few big pot holes on my road trip and I was pleasantly surprised with how stable it is. Not even a shake of the bars. it just sailed across them. I did get bounced out of the saddle on a couple of them but no worse than my Heritage would have. In the corners the bike holds a line beautifully, really impressed with the handling for a bike of this size and weight.
Hi Jerry, your in my brothers vicinity. At end of Eastwood and Peace Blvd we’re house with Stars and Stripes, hope to meet up sometime. God bless and hello to Miss Donna.
glad I bought my RG ST in feb of 22' bc the price was $30K and the 23' RG ST at the same dealership I just seen was up to $34k. I absolutely love my ST and my 12' RG but aint no way in hell someone can justify $53k on one of those new CVO's
Love this model Harley does everything very well plenty of power and handles well mileage good great for curves and all day touring , I added a razor tour pac and Bassani exhaust .
The street glide is the sexiest looking of all the glides!!💯👍🏽
Thanks for the ride. My favorite comment, "HD best performance at low speed." ( over the wings and beamers, didn't know that).
Thanks for the report. Just looking to buy a '22 and the Street Glide is up there. I would like a Touring with Lowers and Tour Pak but liquid cooling and all the other excesses of the Ultra are just more stuff in the way.
Harley Davidson would like you to stop calling them crash guards. They prefer that the Fronts are Engine Guards and the Rears are Saddle Bag Guards.
I’m looking at one in Soldotna AK…love my 21 GW…..but sometimes…I miss the Vibe and Clutch…Happy New Year and TY for all you do Sharing Knowledge 👊🇺🇸👊
I went to a K1600B from an Ultra classic, the bike is great more gadgets and gizmos than I’ll ever use and plenty of power. But I do miss the character of a Harley but can’t justify the prices, mines paid for so I doubt I’ll switch anytime soon.
They manage to sound well-mannered, refined and yet still amazing and classic H-D somehow.
I like the black one too. Thanks for taking us for a ride joe.
I just got one 2 days ago it's my 5th Harley I love riding so it's worth it.
Those Tab slip ons sound great for stock headers!
Nice looking bike. I have a 2020 Streetglide Special with taller HD772 Ohlins shocks, way better than stock, rides great. Gonna stick with this for another 3 years I reckon. Love the bike.
Why not a rigid frame with a Knuckle engine?
I know everybody who's getting old need Comfort, but I invest on a Airhawk pillow under my ass, and problem solved
My buddy bought a SG not long ago, he has put some serious miles on her without issue. I think it is a gorgeous bike, and one I would purchase... But... The way my friend is treated by the dealer, I believe they soaked him good, and continue too. But, it is his money, and he is happy... I'll keep my Yamaha.
Nice bike. I bought a 21 blacked out RG Limited and that will probably be my last bike. My health is going down faster than VP Harris so I’ll probably just ride this one until I can’t.
I ride a 2012 StreetGlide. Love it.
I think this bike would definitely be my go to Harley.
Man, a bike like this with the 117, the different suspension, the “performance” tune, and all the little extras, would be a huge hit if it were just reasonably priced!? Not cheap. Just reasonable. $24-$25k and I would be all over that bike! Of course, I would guess that Harley isn’t having too many problems selling these bikes as is.
Hey Jerry another great review, What seats do you run on your bikes and what is your best touring seat?
What year is your bike? I been looking at the ST models. I currently have a 2017 softail slim S. Love that V-twin. But I am torn about either trading it in or just buying the ST & have both. I might be riding the ST more often lol!
It should be a good ride , with your description it sounds like a starter CVO without some premium features 😊
Thanks for ride and. Commentary Motor Man.
Any time!
I just bought one last week. Hopefully ready to pick up this week. Cant wait!
Picked it up on Friday, next day I headed to my fathers place in Queensland, 3 days in the saddle and 2100KM later an I can say I'm impressed with it. Wind buffeting beat my brains in for the first couple of days so I dropped into a dealer and put on a new screen and some adjustable wind deflectors. Much improved
Great looking bike and cool sounding pipes 🏍️😎👍
Really nice bike. I'm itching for one really bad. Great review
Streetglide ST 22/23 best and last of the soul of Harley Davidson.
I don’t get why it cost more than the special. They swapped shock’s and bags that cost no more to HD.
The ST comes with the 117 motor for 1600 dollars more that the Special. If you get the stage 3 on a 114, it will cost a lot more than 1600 dollars.
Those head pipes still have an obstruction in the form of the epa
Hi Jerry, great video, very professional as many others from you. I just purchased a black ST, too. Would you please tell me what brand the drop guards are? Maybe I will need it 🙂Thank you.
motorcycledropguards.com use coupon code RLAP2022 AND SAVE A FEW BUCKS.
Good morning Mr Motorman! You spoke briefly on the seat. Have you any opinion on the Harley-Davidson Hammock seats? Have you ever reviewed them?
I've never tried that seat.
Steven Waller, the Hammock seat is worth it. Two longest trips that I have taken with it, were to North Carolina and back home from Sturgis. (North Carolin, about 1400 miles Sturgis trip about 5000 miles.) I only use the Hammock seat on long trips. Go to your local dealer. They'll have a demo one for you to put on your bike.
@@PanM8 thanks for that information. I do know the dealerships have Demos
Beautiful Bike - No doubt about it - Thoughts on the Road Glide Special?
The Special comes with the lower shocks. That means less lean angle and the extended bags scraping the ground when leaning the bikes to it's limits.
Got a street glide special 2020 and I love it 😎
Did u put on the tab performance slip on medium baffle mufflers only or did u put on headers also?
Just slip ons.
Thnx for the info enjoy ur posts and am considering the tab slip ones and also the phone holder and cup holders ...from ur site... seem like great products thnx
@@motorman857 thnx for clarifying
Did you have to do any tuning when you added the slip-on mufflers? When I added some slip-on mufflers on my ST it caused the engine to surge at idle sometimes. I'm going to do a tuner to take that out, I think the fact that the bike is free flowing from the factory once I added the additional free flowing mufflers it changed the tune or it can't tune for it by itself.
I went with the 4'' Tab mufflers with the medium baffles and the bike runs perfectly. No tuner needed. Now, if you get 4.5 or 5'' mufflers with the zombie baffles or no baffles, I could see the computer not being able to adjust itself enough.
@@motorman857
Ok, I see. I have the Cobra Ravens slash cut 4 in mufflers, they have a steel baffle inside so I just don't know. I plan on doing a head pipe later so I'll just get a tune when I do that. Thanks for the info man.👍
Gorgeous Bike
I love the looks of the Street Glide ST....just not the color options it's available in. But I have a 2020 Street Glide Special with the RDRS so I'm loving my ride.
I appreciate the review as this would be likely one of the only HDs I'd ever consider owning but $27g's? Uh, nope. I know bike brand/model is a personal preference but I'll never understand HD's outrageous pricing, out of the hands of average bike owner, like myself. I'll stick w/my '15 FJR1300.
H.D. touring bikes are priced in the same range as other heavyweight touring bikes. Goldwings are 25 to 32K, BMW's 23 to 33k, Indians 23 to 34K
@@motorman857 yeah, I'm not buying any of those either, Jerry. I'm a cheapskate!
@@leviefrauim1425 You should look into this motorcycle th-cam.com/video/QoaqEMPk8Q4/w-d-xo.html
@@motorman857 funny guy!
I LIKE THE ROAD GLIDE MYSELF ❤❤
Jerry do you have any experience riding with the Rekluse or EFM auto clutch? If you do, would you please make a video on your thoughts and experience?
Thank you Sir
I rode a Dyna a few years ago with the Rekluse clutch. So equipped, you can use the friction zone or, just the rear brake against a little throttle.
Did u change the wind screen? Mine is a smoked color
I put a 5'' clear www.freedomshields.net wind shield. The stock 4'' caused to much wind blast to the face.
Any suggestions for passenger pillions or seats and passenger foot pegs or floor boards and luggage racks vs tour packs?
You can find all that stuff on ebay or amazon for a 3rd of H.D.'s price. As for seats, ccriderseats.com
Jerry, did you lower the bike or get a low profile seat?
The bike is stock height. I have several seats but none are low profile.
Beautiful Bike Jerry!!
WHAT DO THE C.V.O. STAND FOR?
Bought a roadge about 6 years ago when everyone had a streetglide, now I feel embarrassed when I go out like I'm a bandwagon rider lol
Exactly!
Me too! But my 2017 was $22k which now looks like deal
Thank you
How do the Harley’s do in the maintenance and repairs go? Any big repairs or unusual repairs etc?
Maintenance is less frequent and lower cost than competitors. These are very reliable solid bikes.
My buddy has the SG, I believe with the 114 motor. It is kind of a bear to work on, designed so that an owner will get disgusted and take to the dealer for service. They do not want you wrenching on your bike, at least that is my perception when I had to dig into his, long story, will not bore you.
The storm got here yesterday!
Great motorcycle looks fantastic and fun to ride, I too have one same color I was thinking about buying a goldwing so happy I got the ST I think one of the best bike Harley Davison has made low speed hiway this bike does everything good 👍
Are those mufflers Harley Warrenty friendly ? Nice motor
Yes.
lol I clicked on it after thinking the title was about the low rider st. I couldn’t imagine having to live with one of those 😂
I have never owned a Harley Davidson Motorcycle, but I would definitely be interested in the Street Glide ST. I really like the looks and the power with the 117 motor must be awesome! I also like the extra clearance the bike has. One concern would be the air cleaner possibly getting in the way of my leg or knee? I ride a Victory Cross Country Tour and am used to plenty of leg room. Great video😎😎👍
And what exhaust did u put on it? Is it a Harley part?
Watch the video. He said it about three times.
Mr. Palladino,
Will you talk about your camera set up on your Glide.
th-cam.com/video/OqaY8yAg-jk/w-d-xo.html
@@motorman857
Thank you.
I like the Streetglide ST if I were forced to go with a HD, but it simply doesn’t hold a candle to the Goldwing or a K1600. Not even close.
Typical comment from a Harley hater 😂
@@chgofirefighter I wish I hated them! It would be MUCH less expensive for me. But unfortunately as soon as I saw the FXLRST and the new CVO Road Glide, I was absolutely smitten!
Thanks !!!
Great video .
Wow. A black street glide.....how unique.
If you add a set of tabs do you have to add a tuner ??
No, no tuner.
Thanks Motorman.
I have the 22 road glide st , got the s&s and screaming eagle race tuner. Thought it was going to be minimal stage 1 performance and sound.
I was surprised and happy. The ST is unbelievable handling the turns compared to a standard. I would recommend stop, turn lamps on the rear
Saddle bags. The 117 is a great feature, I find myself going 90 mph way more than any other Harley I have ever owned.
I would like a nice touring seat, for 500 - 600 mile days.
Nice bike
What it’s like to live with the street glide? Like does it take out the trash or do dishes? Interesting choice of words motor man.
I wouldn't expect it to take out the trash or do the dishes but I would expect it to be comfortable and enjoyable to ride under all conditions (country roads, interstates etc.)
Love Harleys but it's not worth any where near $30k to me... I was a road king classic owner and am thinking of buying a leftover ultra this year. I think at that price the ultra is the only way to go, Harley's are not sport bikes nor meant to be in my view. I'm also a sport bike owner. Harley is selling fewer motorcycles these days partly due to the pandemic probably, and Indian affecting them, but arguably the most compelling reason is overall price and tied to that the BS add-on charges by dealers then atop that the Harley surcharge. I think the dealer gouging is turning people off. Even the die hards. Not sure about the supply chain issues in terms of how bad they still are today, hopefully soon at some point that will improve but wondering aloud if it will be disclosed as companies feed their greed. I see dealerships going down. Large spaces with lots of overhead. Their bikes are simply out of reach to most these days. Becoming a niche brand. Just had a Harley dealer close near me. Sad to see, love the history. be well !!!
Not worth that but, it's not really about that when it comes to such things for most.
I prefer ground clearance as well. I want to lean my bike with minimal effort and the higher the bike the easier it seams to get it to lean. I’ve pulled up next specials on the ferry and my FLHR standard has much more clearance.
I'm riding Harley and I was interested in the new SG ST and I had a test ride with it.
Here in Europe the bikes have to be sold according to the Euro 5 regulation.
Means for a HD:
different exhaust systems and air intakes. The performance of the bikes are not as good as they are in the US and beside this, the "sound" is boaring.
The comfort of the SG ST is in my opinion a joke. A firm suspension in combination with a seat, that reminds me on race bikes made by Ducati.
I expected much more of this bike and was really disappointed after the test ride.
The most horrible thing is the price. Here in Austria it starts at 41.000€ !!!!!
This bike is absolutely no option for me.
The good news is nobody will force you to buy one. Although, pretty soon, the government will force you to buy an electric motorcycle, by regulating combustion engines out of existence.
@@motorman857
Hi Jerry, of course the SG ST is a good looking bike, but I was a little bit disappointed when I have ridden it.
That is that, what I wanted to express.
On your TAB slip on's did you get the 4.0" on the 4.5"? I have the identical bike, nice choice.
The 4''
@@motorman857 Thanks, keep the videos coming!
Most Harley riders around here have touring bikes but they don't do any touring. I have a cruiser (2018 Deluxe) and I drive ten times as many miles as they do - but just in giant 100-200 mile circles, back to home. I like the retro look like Motorman's Electra Glide Revival but the new style Harleys don't do much for me.
yeah but is it good for cones? hahaha
Howdy dude
Haha Never know... I'm getting older!
Do your homework - buy used and check the best year for reliability and save thousands .
No motorcycle is worth 30k - for that money it should come with 4 wheels!!!
😂😜😂
This isn’t 1982…
No. It is not.
I own a 22 Gray ST. It was the bridge for the gap between Ducati's/sportbikes for me, into HD. The only AWFUL things about HD so far are the dealer service departments; they are absolutely diabolically bad. HD corporate because it's gone so woke. And a LOT of HD people who hate you because you have a bike they cannot have for whatever reason. I've been riding since 1970, raced sportbikes, ridden everywhere. Yet, for some reason, in HD culture, a lot of you just act like spoiled little brats because someone has a bike you don't. Pathetic.
I've been riding and buying Harleys for 26 years and never noticed a single thing you mentioned in your comment. Maybe, you're the problem.
Like the saying goes. a fool, and his money.................................
👌🏻👊🏿👊🏼👍🏼👍🏽
“ Is it worth $30,000. ???
Hahaha Hahaha 🤣
Man that's beautiful, I'd pay maybe 25k..
The difference with the gold wing, you don't have to upgrade absolutely everything that Harley knows is crap, so add another $10 grand to the Harley .
Yall are just gonna trade it in within 2 years lmao