Sondors XS vs Radrover
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ธ.ค. 2024
- This is a comparison of features between the Sondors XS 750w eBike and the Radrover 750w ebike.
Some people complaining about us pedaling in the video skews the results, I agree to an extent. If anything it's biased towards Radrover since Jack Miller is a 71 yrs old and I'm a stronger rider. that plus the fact he weighs more than me as well. The sand is hard packed as it rained the day before and the tractors groomed the surface smooth earlier that day making it a nice and level to do our test. We made many passes and there wasn't that much of a difference, what this video clearly shows is the performance difference between the Sondors X and XS compared to the Radrover.
I'm working on another video to explain why there was such a performance difference between the 750w Sondors XS and 750w Radrover. Here's a reply from a Owners Group member to the video John A. Neary "I would like to see a test with no peddling just throttle same gear same everything.. I raced my brothers 2019 Rad Rover vrs my 2019 XS ,. He weighs 145 I weigh 225 and in 2 blocks I was almost a block ahead of him.. There is no comparison in the bikes SONDORS ROCKS"
Note I won't be deleting any comments nor will I pre-screen them, so post away and I'll answer any questions asked. I glossed over many of the details of both bikes as there have been some improvement to the 2019 Radrover like improving the PAS magnet sensor to 12 magnets from 6 magnets in the bike tested. The XS is also 12 magnets and the X model is 8 magnets. The Battery size of the Radrover in the test is 48v 11.7 ah and the new bikes come with a 14ah pack. The Sondors comes standard with a 48v 17.5 ah battery on both the X and XS models.
I've finally put together a video explaining why there was such a performance difference between the two bikes. Here's Part 2; • Sondors X vs Radrover ...
So I just got the new Sondors MXS. Although it’s my first ebike, I would be happy to challenge any RadBike to a fair test. I am thrilled by its nimble feel and power.
What made you go with the MXS over the XS? Just curious
Vito Vizziato probably because the MXS could perform with better control in all conditions except for snowy terrain over the XS. I’m gonna go with the MXS as well because I’d like to have the option of going on mountain trails too
@@j0epark1 I'm mad I didn't pull the trigger for the July delivery now I'd have to wait until August but by then the Summer's almost over and idk if it's worth it to buy right now?
@@MrVizziato23 yeah, I could definitely understand that. I live in Maryland so I'll have decent riding weather till at least mid-November. Just depends on where you live. I'm going to wait for the August shipment personally just because I'm a need-it-asap kind of person lol. But if you wait till next year, they might make some improvements as well, so it's really your call! Best of luck!
@@j0epark1 I'm in NJ so yeah I'd have until November ish to ride it too I guess. Did you order it already? And I'm just like you, when I order something I want it yesterday LOL hate waiting 🤷🏼😂
i’ve owned my Sondors X for 2 years now 5000 miles, lots of fun in the desert, streets, beach, mountains no issues beside the braking system suck. Thinking of upgrading to the XS soon!
XS has the real, big magnet, 750 Bafang.... I have one and love it, plenty of electric bikes on my group ride. Haven't gone yet, since I now own the Sondors XS, but It will rule, all my friends that ride Magnums, Rads, etc... Guaranteed...
240p we meet again
Don’t you think the difference in size of the front sprocket made the Radrover
lose that race? Makes sense to me.
Since they are both 7 speeds we adjusted the gearing to be similar, but it really wouldn't have mattered, watch the part 2 video it clears up the disparity.
Thanks for the nice review! Can you make a video of Sondors XS uphill (4-5 mins uphill drive) capability
You already had it in mind to choose the sonders bike. New 2019 radrover blows it away
Where's your proof, so far I have only heard of one other person comparing a 2019 Radrover against a Sondors XS and I added that results in my description. If anyone in the SoCal area has a 2019 RadRover and would like to do a comparison with the XS, feel free to get in touch with me, I'll add those results on my page.
2019 Radrover doesn't have a true 750 watt motor - its a hopped up 500 watt motor that isn't as powerful as a real 750 watt motor. If you ride the Sondors you'll see what I mean. Nothing against Rad Rover just a fact.
@@gamblinfool777 that's totally bull.. you're watching too much Bolton videos. I'm a million percent positive rad over Sanders any day..
@@hellno6609 that's cool they're both good bikes
@@BruceTheSniper I get what you are saying, to be honest after reviewing the new sondors line up I have purchased the MXS and am very excited to get it delivered here in June. I still love Rad Power bikes also I just think they need to make something to compete with the MXS and the XS.
The thing people don't know about the Rad is that the company deliberately limits the controller so that the nominal and peak wattages don't exceed 750w. If you can tweak your settings to exceed that, it's not a fair comparison -- and it's no longer legal in some states.
When RadRover first delivered their bikes the first production run had a 500w labeled motor. People complained. Then the next production run had the motors labeled 750w, except they used the exact same motor, people complained. Then to deceive customers they claimed they now have a true 750w 80nm motor since it used the larger diameter plug, again it's still 500w motor. Until you actually ridden a true 750w powered bike, you don't know what your talking about. In the eBike industry the standard in rating a motor isn't peak watts...
Bafang the manufacturer of the motor rates that size as a 500w and was only labeled a 750w at the request of Radrover. How do I know? I've been in meetings with engineers from Bafang on several occasions as I'm one of the only sources in the USA that rebuilds them. Every other eBike manufacturer in the USA has labeled them correctly as I've repaired many.
I personally own 3 rad bikes among others . I agree with you guys that rad bikes are pretty underpowered compared to anything else that's similar out there , and you really feel that when you're climbing a hill riding on them , even on level 5 I have to pedal or else the bicycle struggles
Should of just made a who can run faster video... If you are comparing bikes why the hell would you be pedaling?! It now turns into who can pedal faster with assist.
Great video. Yes, the Sondors is faster off the line. I own a SONDORS X and a RAD ROVER, My X Kicks it's Ass for lunch! Now my MXS is the bomb!!! Next a Rockstar...
A comparison from the Sounders bike club, fair. 😀
I thought the same thing
The XS is newer model then that old Rover
Is that Jack from Gold Rush Tv show?
Had a person bring over a 2019 Radrover that he just purchased, and test ride an XS, there was still no comparison as his bike was equipped with a 500W motor, only difference, the motor is no longer labeled 750w on the rover. He wanted a second bike and purchased a Sondors. The silver bike I compared it against are of the same year models...
Not a rumor. It's a 500W hub motor, supposedly pushed to 750 peak watts by the controller. I should know, I own one, took it apart and popped in a real 750W motor. When I purchased my Rad, Sondors was still a single speed, 350W motor bike. But I've always liked Sondors and that XS looks awesome.
Yes the Radrover has the smaller factor motor internals, I'll be posting a second video after I disassembled it to see for myself.
Bruce on the Sonders was pedaling more aggressively than the guy on the RadRover.
Who cares sonders is better anyways
I know that Kyle from Bolton e-Bikes has a video on their website with both the Sondors and Rad 750w motors taken apart. The difference is stunning. The Rad motor looks like the 350 or 500w motor. The rumors are definitely true
can u next time record with toaster?
So you're the guy (Admin) I've heard about. I'd rather get the Juiced RipCurrent S.
Who are agents of sondors e bikes in east Africa or how do you order them on line?
Bro...whats with the video quality its the year 2020.
Rad Rovers are just too slow for the money. I paid $940 for my Fat Tire electric bike and it does 26mph right out of the box 31 pedal assist. The new Rad Rovers is now $1600 and can't hang with us sub one thousand-dollar bike.
Come on Bruce, Are you serious? This is not a test of the bikes performance. It's a test of 2 guys peddling performance. Not to say that the results are wrong, The test IS wrong! If you want any kind of FAIR comparison of the BIKES performance and not your legs, test and compare with FTNP (Full throttle No Peddling) ALSO just to be the most accurate, test on flat ROAD not sand
I think the test is supposed to be real world, which would include pedaling. Granted no two people are the same, but the percentage of difference is small. These bikes are designed for beach riding, so it seems a fair comparison.
@@BruceTheSniper You also could have switched bikes, but showing the throttle only is the most valid. Good to hear you did try it.
@@reckless37, Jack is 71 yrs old and out of shape, so if anything I biased the results to favor the Radrover, what was most important was the video showed a clear difference in performance between the XS and the Radrover and in fact that the X model was more of an equal match. I'm working on another video that will address my suspicions.
@@BruceTheSniper The difference in gearing could also make quite the difference in speed. The 2019 rover I believe has much closer gearing to the Sonders.
I dont trust this comparing, u can see the sondors bike guy pedling hard in the beggining as he get speed up, make a real throttle only comparing instead
How much for the Sondors XS?
Over 1,700 for the 750 watt motor but for the 500 watt about 1,100- 1,300 depending on model.The rad is 1,400 to 1,500 depending on the model. Now certain rad bikes come with a bike rack and other add-ons.
@@marcelnight1978 rad also ships free
Finally uploaded Part 2 which explains why there is such a difference in performance, th-cam.com/video/X7bFG91_w0c/w-d-xo.html
Excellent comparison, Sondors wins fair and square.
The battery "is the largest you're going to get on a production bike"? NOT. EVEN. CLOSE. No bias in this comparison. Oh, no.
At the time of production, please name one company that comes standard with a larger battery...… 48v 17.5Ah
Probably the Sondors XS loses on throttle test, so they paddle.
thx both guys..great run and of course SONDORS XS stronger by far. Can't wait to see motor comparison. sondors rule!😃👍✌
I now know where he screwed up.
Per the email from customer service
"All Rad Rover bikes are 750 watts EXCEPT the Rad Rover 1(my quote which I believe is in this video ) which has 500 watts".
Your comparison was skewed from getting misinformation from somewhere. You never had 750 watts to begin with.
Not lying as another video implied.
Hope this helps.
Actually the 2019 Radrover also has the same exact size motor as the original, the one in the video was a 3rd generation Radrover with the motor labeled 750w and the larger connector plug that normally comes on a true 750w. The first gen motor was labeled 500w with the smaller connector plug, the second gen was labeled 750w with the smaller plug, all have the same exact motor rating.
Really 240p ? hence the thumbs down
Bad video look burr cuz your video is 240p. Hard to see it. Good luck!
240p in 2019...
No bias here...
Too Bad they went out of business in December.
Who went out of business? Radrover?
Not a Fair review. Those two bikes are not in the same price range.
Neil Armstrong Had better camera on a MOON
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A sondor fan club admin? This comparison is bullshit.theres no question Rad is the best.
Do one test for me, remove your rear motor and take a picture and post the size, Radrover uses a 500w rated motor pack inside their housings. When you get a chance to ride a true 750w rated eBike using the Bafang motor, you'll notice the difference right away.
Soooooo angry
Sorry I have both bikes Sanders and the rad. And there's no comparison. radrover rules that shit all day. If you ever rode either bike you would know immediately which. Lol!
this video shows the difference between the motors - th-cam.com/video/X7bFG91_w0c/w-d-xo.html
Rad rover flat out lies to people about their motor size and I for one will never purchase a bike from them because of that, period.
Hell no! You have the xs Sonders?
Interesting his page has a rover video on it but no Sonders and he miss spelled the name. That could have been an auto correct error, but I gotta call BS.
rad has cheap components lol