POLYRHYTHMS vs POLYMETERS

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  • @andrewhuang
    @andrewhuang  4 ปีที่แล้ว +627

    Psssst....I have a music making app coming out soon....it's kind of related to this video because you can do polymeters in it but really it's a full on sample-based DAW for iOS :D Sign up to get notified when it drops - it will be 20% off for the first week or two: flipsampler.com
    Thanks for watching! Leave any ideas for future Theory Thursday vids below! Much love.

    • @fluffartistt
      @fluffartistt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      will it ever be released on android?

    • @bigzish
      @bigzish 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      i like ya cut g

    • @andrewhuang
      @andrewhuang  4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      @@fluffartistt We're looking into whether that's possible. Android doesn't handle audio as well and there are a LOT more screen sizes / device types to deal with, so it's a challenge

    • @seththetechguy
      @seththetechguy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Will it be free?

    • @mycraft1926
      @mycraft1926 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      does the e-mail subscription cost?

  • @AdamNeely
    @AdamNeely 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2295

    0:25

  • @DavidBennettPiano
    @DavidBennettPiano 4 ปีที่แล้ว +537

    Really clear, effective breakdown of an often confused topic! Nicely done Andrew 👍🏼🙂

  • @st_orlie
    @st_orlie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +904

    Good timing

    • @brycesnodgrass8373
      @brycesnodgrass8373 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      good comment

    • @henryph6194
      @henryph6194 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Good reply

    • @fluffartistt
      @fluffartistt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Good reply to a reply

    • @Dimitri-Jordania
      @Dimitri-Jordania 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why does it sound like ALL of his music is about an X gf? He mustve dated like carmen electra or some shit. Gr8 musician btw not hating.

    • @TehBrian
      @TehBrian 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh.. uou

  • @sakurahertz
    @sakurahertz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    The visual representations at around 3:10 are such a nice touch

    • @KalebPeters99
      @KalebPeters99 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right?? I loved that! I'm definitely using that representation from now on 💯

  • @Nightmoore
    @Nightmoore 4 ปีที่แล้ว +749

    That cowbell/cow track was fire.

  • @gabrielkaul4205
    @gabrielkaul4205 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    The way Andrew represents the difference visually at 3:10 is genius

  • @MisterTingles
    @MisterTingles 4 ปีที่แล้ว +452

    oooh... that graphic with the letterspacing/wordlength was actually really useful

    • @AxxLAfriku
      @AxxLAfriku 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have a big... BIG... BIIIIGGGGG... muscles!!! HAHAHA!!! What did you think I was going for? That's so DIRTY of you! GAGAGAGA!!! I am the funniest TH-camr ever! Maybe that's the reason why I have TWO (!!!) HOT (!) GIRLFRIENDS. Thanks for being alive, dear mr

    • @ssiriss1120
      @ssiriss1120 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@AxxLAfriku wow where can I buy what you're on

    • @audioTopia
      @audioTopia 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      couldn't agree more.

    • @cloudscape5996
      @cloudscape5996 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can you timestamp me that part?? I'm not getting the reference..

    • @MisterTingles
      @MisterTingles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cloudscape5996 3:08

  • @disuyetin
    @disuyetin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    Music teachers: we're going explain the concepts to make it more understandable
    Andrew: *cow*

    • @grasped2
      @grasped2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      and cowbells

    • @AikiraBeats
      @AikiraBeats 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Right the easiest way to do it

  • @RoomieOfficial
    @RoomieOfficial 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1177

    Enjoyed this video a lot! You’re killing it my friend

    • @刘巴顿z
      @刘巴顿z 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      hi rami

    • @madocofcatarina7190
      @madocofcatarina7190 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Enjoyed this video a lot! You're killing my friend

    • @LukeIcardMusic
      @LukeIcardMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Roomie and andrew collab on a poly rhythm track plz

    • @themelomaniac1083
      @themelomaniac1083 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Roomie can you do a video showing how you produce your music? BTW Love from India

    • @theskv21
      @theskv21 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      roomieswami

  • @InVacuo
    @InVacuo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    "What is my purpose?"
    "You pass butter."
    "... Oh my god."
    Had to think of this.

    • @DanielHipólitoHernando
      @DanielHipólitoHernando 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Rick and Morty reference hehe

    • @jimmypeeps8471
      @jimmypeeps8471 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Robot is lucky. Most people are miserable because they feel like they have NO purpose in life 😂

  • @Aldoistaken
    @Aldoistaken 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Yo fellow Logic Pro users, to use the method shown at 8:26, hit control + T (on Mac) while in the piano roll, have funnn

    • @gabbo9795
      @gabbo9795 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      eyyy it's Aldo

  • @inspir.edmusic
    @inspir.edmusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    That polyrhythm midi editing in ableton just blew my world apart.

  • @ZethKeeper
    @ZethKeeper 4 ปีที่แล้ว +551

    Didn't know Andrew has his twin as a slave that passes the goddamn butter.

    • @Daphoid
      @Daphoid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      He also waters and talks to plants.

    • @Hw_yozora
      @Hw_yozora 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      That is his purpose.... Oh my God!

    • @AesculapiusPiranha
      @AesculapiusPiranha 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You pass the butter

    • @hedlund
      @hedlund 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nor did I. Someone does have to pass the goddamn butter, though.

    • @lilacflowerao
      @lilacflowerao 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's not a twin, it's an imprisoned demon clone andrew tricked into staying with his immaculate music

  • @Luk3r
    @Luk3r 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    It's amazing how much you do for the music community. So much free information organised into concise and entertaining videos. I've learnt so much over the years and feel like I never had to "study", just watch entertaining videos.

  • @cashwarior
    @cashwarior 4 ปีที่แล้ว +388

    we got polyproblems here

    • @TheSreYTK
      @TheSreYTK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      good one

    • @kemasolar
      @kemasolar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Then I would recommend the podcast poly-weekly ;) it helped my relationship(s)

    • @DJSidhu24
      @DJSidhu24 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂🤣👌

    • @Zuion_Art
      @Zuion_Art 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Polycliche

  • @musicplaylists64
    @musicplaylists64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    starting at 6:05 the amount of editing correlating with visuals and then audio plus to mention the emotions expressed simultaneously is extremely impressive. *hands applauding*

  • @crapadopalese
    @crapadopalese 4 ปีที่แล้ว +255

    0:25 someone finally freaking said it. And doesn't surprise me it's coming from the one youtube music persona who writes odd rhythms but makes it actually sound like it is musical.

    • @andrewhuang
      @andrewhuang  4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      😅

    • @honsebingus6426
      @honsebingus6426 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It makes sense

    • @NZsaltz
      @NZsaltz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Sungazer. The rhythms are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of music theory most of the songs will go over a typical listener's head.

    • @Howitchewstofeel5gum
      @Howitchewstofeel5gum 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@crapadopalese It's a variation on old copypasta about Rick&Morty

    • @Humr666
      @Humr666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@crapadopalese in the words of a classic: "it's a meme you dip"

  • @talimn
    @talimn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you have no idea how much it pleases me to see this broken down for viewers in a manner that simplifies the misuse of this term. Ive had this conversation more times this year than I could possibly remember and now I can just send this link instead. Nailed it.

  • @augstn
    @augstn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    the cow-cowbell thingy could do as an awfully effective alarm

  • @jessewarren817
    @jessewarren817 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That animation of the words at around 3:20 was pure gold

  • @chaschmerscholucasaege
    @chaschmerscholucasaege 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Holy, I love some of the random sprinkles of over the top or unexpected editing (like 3:02 where another Andrew passes the goddamn butter or 6:05 where everything just hits differently)!

    • @raverone909
      @raverone909 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I freeze framed @6:16 and was not disappointed.

    • @gammergames3322
      @gammergames3322 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@raverone909 that is one musical butt

  • @vitinhuffc
    @vitinhuffc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Cool samba tambourine, thats a REALLY cliche rythmn here
    Hugs from brazil

  • @clonazepanda
    @clonazepanda 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    The video, the editing, Andrew him self, just so professional

  • @AlexMoudgil
    @AlexMoudgil 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    dude ur visual metaphors for things are mindblowing - the letters of polyrhythm and polymeter symbolizing their definitions... genius

  • @nebroskitheraut6705
    @nebroskitheraut6705 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    If you are using Studio One, then you can apply the 2nd or non-time consuming method 8:08 (both audio and midi) although the particular two (or more sounds) need to be on different tracks.
    I will be using the order of tracks as given in the video for my examples and methods.
    For Midi, arrange the notes in the way that Mr. Andrew has instructed you to 8:12 (on different tracks in S1 of course).
    Now Time Stretch the midi event of the longer track so that the last note is at the very start of the next bar (somewhat like the instructions here 8:31).
    It is quite the same for audio, with a few changes.
    For audio, follow the first step used for the midi track. Now merge the 2nd track and bounce to new track.
    Then Time Stretch it so that the start of last sound of the bounced out event is at the very start of the next bar.
    I hope you found this useful! (Please pardon my mistakes in my English if there are any, as I'm not a Native Speaker)
    [Also a huge thanks to you Mr. Andrew as I did not understand the difference between Polymeters and Polyrhythm until today]

  • @paniproduce
    @paniproduce 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Polymeters=Same Beat
    Polyrhythm=Same Measure
    Thanks!

  • @MoxofBatches
    @MoxofBatches 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'm so glad you finally discussed Long Gone. It's my favorite song off Stars and the rhythm always satisfied my mathcore soul

  • @ImJustNeon
    @ImJustNeon 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If you haven't already, go check out Virtual Riot's "I heard you like polyrhythms" track. It's so simple yet beautiful

    • @SavantAudiosurf
      @SavantAudiosurf 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also came from that video.

  • @ZethKeeper
    @ZethKeeper 4 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Cute roast on Adam Neely and Jacob Collier.

  • @asiullopes
    @asiullopes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    me, as a brazilian: ih rapaz o tamborim igualzinho uma chamada de bateria
    *3s later*
    andrew: so i got that from brazilian samba

    • @abnerrodrigues212
      @abnerrodrigues212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Eu quase escrevi um comentário em inglês, mas vamos deixar os gringos aqui com a beleza do nosso idioma à mostra :P

    • @illford
      @illford 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I knew j heard something Brazilian sounding in there

    • @dennysoliveira8441
      @dennysoliveira8441 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Brazilians watching the video:
      Wait a minute, is that SaMbA?
      😂👌🏼

    • @SandroFrancisMiranda123
      @SandroFrancisMiranda123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Eu tambem sou brasileiro

  • @apollog7764
    @apollog7764 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Holy shit the editing

    • @shink3760
      @shink3760 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Always. A Train is next level.

  • @Tony_Tyson
    @Tony_Tyson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh man this is a pet peeve of mine; thank you for setting the record straight! 3:12 is a great way of showing the difference between the two.

  • @uvi_music
    @uvi_music 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    5:4 is a fun one, the saying is
    I’m looking for a home to buy
    :))

    • @amandajoy8947
      @amandajoy8947 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For more fun with meters with five beats, the Uruk-hai in the Lord of the Rings march to a count of five. Their war drums beat on one and four.

  • @LelandDantzler
    @LelandDantzler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The editing in this one was incredible, Andrew. The best part by far, for me, was the simultaneously functional and visually striking typography using the font alignment. Genius.

  • @sahil-p
    @sahil-p 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    3:12 Great animation for understanding the difference! That's going to be my new background

  • @HieronymusLudo
    @HieronymusLudo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a beginner (two years now), your videos and their range of subjects have been invaluable. Thank you!

  • @OmerFlame
    @OmerFlame 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    That intro to Theory Thursday is SO well made Andrew

  • @lucascecconi258
    @lucascecconi258 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    5:58 -6:35 Is a masterpiece

  • @pabbicool
    @pabbicool 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The part from 6:05 - 6:35 was so dramatic I thought he was going to say it would take a year or something for it to line up again.

  • @analytical768
    @analytical768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:17 I really like that theme

  • @shaddjimenez4524
    @shaddjimenez4524 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great visualizations and editing to explain the music theory, I’ve always realized you make complex rhythms sound really good

  • @nathan9783
    @nathan9783 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a drummer love this video and how oversimplified - in a good way this is. Took me about 50mins of youtube videos to understand 4:3 and you did it in 30 seconds haha

  • @arrtemfly
    @arrtemfly 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    hey, you can hold down shift to drag the grey marker with the notes selected staying intact. that way you can do note transformations without needing to add an extra note.

    • @kjl3080
      @kjl3080 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ?

  • @Official_RIDM
    @Official_RIDM 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your sense of humor Andrew. Your choice for cowbells and cows is priceless.

  • @SPINAET
    @SPINAET 4 ปีที่แล้ว +230

    polyriddim.

    • @ekyo_stuff
      @ekyo_stuff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ye

    • @baronvonbeandip
      @baronvonbeandip 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      yeah, we know by now

    • @descar.G
      @descar.G 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      WOOP WOOP

    • @descar.G
      @descar.G 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I can hear the drop

    • @tomvesely4008
      @tomvesely4008 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I don't really know much about it and probably have it confused with samba, but don't some carribean genres use polyrythms?

  • @refl3xes835
    @refl3xes835 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have no idea if I'll ever end up using polymeters or polyrhythms all that much but I just love to learn about a new topic with the way you explain things so clearly. Keep killin it man!

  • @DARC98
    @DARC98 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some good polymeter examples are The Accolade by Symphony X, at 7:27, The Architect by Haken, at the 7:13 mark, What Happens Now by Porcupine Tree, at 5:02, and, basically, the entre Meshuggah's discography is based on polyrhythms and polymeters, usually at the same time. So, have fun.

  • @neo-paine7071
    @neo-paine7071 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    8:30 you can do this in FL without the extra note!

  • @avgchoobafan
    @avgchoobafan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    8:08 For the DAW trick, as long as your DAW let you stretch MIDI segments, it's pretty much possible in any DAW or even music notation software.

  • @vladislavkalkaev9233
    @vladislavkalkaev9233 4 ปีที่แล้ว +305

    ⚠️ Warning: this channel contains a killer level of aesthetics hidden under the guise of simplicity

    • @billjensen3008
      @billjensen3008 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      *production value 🙄

  • @frombulapuhskinti7149
    @frombulapuhskinti7149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The fact that you used king crimson as an example for math rock has just won me so many arguments.

  • @tadzik300
    @tadzik300 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Yo Andrew, that King Crimson piece is called Discipline, not Disciple, I think? Nonetheless, a wonderfull vid. You're a god of music education to me.

    • @LiamKaplan
      @LiamKaplan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      this is correct, and I'm glad someone said it lol

    • @GuyWhoLikesTheSnarkies1435
      @GuyWhoLikesTheSnarkies1435 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, Discipline is the correct title. An essential prog song from the band😃

    • @mitsostim07
      @mitsostim07 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The whole album is really great, actually my favorite I think

  • @ndpndntvar
    @ndpndntvar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro, I love your channel. It fucking crushes man. I've learned so much from you. You're literally the definition of how to be an educator in the 21st century. Straight up, you're better than any educator ive ever scene in university. Mad props.

  • @brycesnodgrass8373
    @brycesnodgrass8373 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    happy thanksgiving everyone 🦃

  • @juliusteo
    @juliusteo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That animation from 3:12 to 3:20 just does it for me. Best summary of polymeter and polyrhythm.

  • @diegooliveirabenjamin
    @diegooliveirabenjamin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is a whole unique league of youtubing

  • @Thedrummersalmanac
    @Thedrummersalmanac 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man... You made some very heady concepts very entertaining to digest and learn... Incredible content creation style! Bravo!

  • @greycastro1009
    @greycastro1009 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Holy shit, I’ve been mixing their names up for *years*, and had no idea-thanks!

  • @stevearcade
    @stevearcade 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone else facepalm hard watching this... The number of times I've referred to polymeter as polyrhythm! You've just explained it in such a clear, concise and coherent way. Thanks, Andrew.

  • @Dwooswa
    @Dwooswa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Polyriddim converted into polymeters? Someone do this

    • @steadywatching7564
      @steadywatching7564 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Weh?

    • @Tiogar60
      @Tiogar60 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Polymetrim?

    • @s-zz
      @s-zz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Phonon?

    • @Dwooswa
      @Dwooswa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@s-zz yes

    • @kimyona9746
      @kimyona9746 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh look it's dwooswa again

  • @bribri7858
    @bribri7858 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You just made a drummer and beginning producer's day by talking about this topic, so thank you for that :)

  • @Rick_Foley
    @Rick_Foley 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Gonna use the second example at Thanksgiving dinner tonight. Credit will go to Andrew!

  • @ihinck
    @ihinck 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dawn of Midi! Seeing them live was so fun because everyone in the audience was trying to count along haha

  • @mekullag
    @mekullag 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Now I can‘t stop imagining a young emo Chopin yelling at his mom to stop calling him Freddy. “My name is ‘show pain‘ now, UGH you just don‘t GET me“

    • @Isa-tn7ex
      @Isa-tn7ex 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Awww... that’s so cute 😂 Fryderyk did make a lot of pretty emo comments, including: "It is not my fault if I am like a mushroom which seems edible but which poisons you if you pick it and taste it, taking it to be something else,"

  • @bskdopeboy
    @bskdopeboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:45 I'm high af, but this editing was like my brain going into overload! Ive never heard the natural rhythms I feel be so well explained like this. WoW!!!

  • @RacingStripeAV
    @RacingStripeAV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Going deeper into the math-rock, the "djent" subsubgenre of progressive metal can very much be about that - whether it be Meshuggah's "New Millenium Cyanide Christ" (23/16 on 4/4), or TesseracT's "Palingenesis" (13/8 on 3/4).
    Also if you want another "spoken word polyrhythm", 5:4 can have the phrase "go to bed, go upstairs to bed".

    • @patrickcompton1483
      @patrickcompton1483 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Autechre and The Algorithm use polymeter as well. I also use it in my metal and IDM projects, it's freakin fun as heck to play guitar to.

    • @sione_etc
      @sione_etc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i listen to a lot of mathy stuff but meshuggah are the gods of polyrhythmic/polymetric metal as far as i'm concerned, no one else commits to it like them

    • @patrickcompton1483
      @patrickcompton1483 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you really want to see some odd meters, check out indian konnokol rhythms

    • @00042
      @00042 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@patrickcompton1483 Indian Classical Music is one of the most complicated musical systems in the world. I am particularly a fan of the Raga Bhairav :)

  • @crescentceleste
    @crescentceleste ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been really into polyrhythms for a while and then I found out about polymetres and was so confused on the difference. I tried reading up on both on them to compare the two but u just got more confused. This video popped up in my recommended and oh my gosh, it all makes so much sense to me now!!! Thank you so much for the super clear and simple video!! Polyrhythms are just measure-consistent whereas polymetres are beat-consistent!!! omg it all clicks in my brain now!!!

  • @aislefivemusic
    @aislefivemusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "what is my purpose?"
    "you pass butter."
    "oh my God"
    3:02

  • @ZonymaUnltd.
    @ZonymaUnltd. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was in Drumline in high school, and now that I write music a little, I find that I do this somewhat naturally, so thank you Andrew for giving some reason to it.

  • @pipsounds
    @pipsounds 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That tiny detail of explaining the difference between both concepts by animating their respective name (3:07) in a way that visually reflects their audible properties is the entire reason I watch educational TH-cam content. Like I'm never gonna forget the difference between these two things now thanks to that. Great stuff as always, Andrew! :D
    edit: fixed timestamp

  • @johndilallo5239
    @johndilallo5239 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a Brazilian person myself I instantly identified the tambourine sound and rhythm and expected you to say something about Brazilian music! Very interesting to know that you used to play samba Andrew :)

  • @maltalented
    @maltalented 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the thumbnail is just my melted music brain seeing the title

  • @sven20101001
    @sven20101001 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't know anything about making music or music theory , but listening to you talking about that stuff is kind of relaxing , and makes listening to music more interesting for me.
    And Long gone is such a good song , for getting a good mood.
    Thank you Andrew :3

  • @calrsom
    @calrsom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Not only are you clearly a talented musician, but I'm always struck by the creativity of your filming and especially editing. Always educational, inspiring, and entertaining!

  • @BrianSantero
    @BrianSantero 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was literally working with one of my students yesterday on this subject. Doing 3:2 (and subdividing them) in order to feel triplets by switching between compound and meter mode (like "America" in WSS). Thank you for doing this, I now have a perfect go-to for when I need a good explainer.

  • @azd685
    @azd685 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    My new favorite thing is poly phrases: For example, putting a 4-measure melody over a 3-measure chord progression, so the chords shift every time the phrase repeats

    • @gehteuchnichtsan7911
      @gehteuchnichtsan7911 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Isn't this just polymetric?

    • @azd685
      @azd685 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not quite. Everything in the same time signature, but one part is playing three-bar phrases and one is playing four-bar phrases. It's a lot more subtle than polymeter when you listen to it.

    • @azd685
      @azd685 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fair... I guess I'm just saying that if you keep your polymeter in multiples of an underlying time signature, it stops sounding like polymeter and sounds like something else, which is less in-your-face

  • @robygamboa8479
    @robygamboa8479 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was probably the clearest explanation I've heard so far. Thanks for publishing this!

  • @Reliquancy
    @Reliquancy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Calling Jacob Collier and Adam Neely out for being so extra to flex all the time lol

  • @CryingShayme
    @CryingShayme 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting to have this distinction made because I am realizing the song that introduced me to the concept of polyrhythm also uses polymeter, and alternates back and forth between the two on piano. Bemoan by Agent Fresco. Makes for great piano exercise. You alternate between doing a 5/4 poly meter (1-2-3-4-5 and 1-5-3-5) to doing the same 1-5-3-5 pattern with both hands but with a 4/3 polyrhythm

  • @Mountainside101
    @Mountainside101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Any tool fan out there?? 😂
    We are used to this mate!

  • @immersivesinner3350
    @immersivesinner3350 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gustav Holst, 2nd Suite in F, the 4th Movement. There's a section where the brass is playing in 3/4, and the woodwinds are playing in 6/8, the conductor leads on the downbeat of each measure. Really cool polyrhythm all the way back in High School band.

  • @marycansing
    @marycansing 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    They taught us “pass the bread and butter” because we were classy.

  • @Noone-of-your-Business
    @Noone-of-your-Business 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    FINALLY! I *finally* understood these two concepts! Great visualization, too!

  • @Dex99SS
    @Dex99SS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I could NEVER do that ... the snapping at different rates... never.
    that butter though, lol

    • @Rob_Hogan
      @Rob_Hogan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I had exactly the same thought. Saw him do it and concluded "our brains are just different". But then he gave the vocal phrase trick and it just worked right away for me.

    • @NZsaltz
      @NZsaltz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You definitely could with a little practice. It's not that hard once you get the rhythm

  • @stephpar.official
    @stephpar.official 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another similar system is 'phasing' à la Steve Reich. The system that he originally used was to play the same sound on a group of tape players that are set to playback at slightly different speeds, producing massively long polyrhythms that don't match up for the whole length of the piece - this can take half an hour or more to complete.
    The latest method that I've been using to get this effect in Ableton Live 10 is to create a midi clip in arrangement view for each voice. I freeze and flatten each track at a different tempo for each track (calculated so that they each complete after a specific time), turn off Warp and loop each clip. This produces some very interesting rhythms.

    • @00042
      @00042 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      do you have some examples?

    • @stephpar.official
      @stephpar.official 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@00042 The first piece recorded was Steve Reich's "It's Gonna Rain" and anything by Reich with the 'phase' in the title.
      The method I mentioned above was used on my piece "Phased Serialism 2020" (the other pieces used different recording methods) and can be found on my Soundcloud .
      The Wikipedia article, that also contains some more examples of phasing, is at .

  • @donnytheflow
    @donnytheflow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So let me get this straight...
    Polymeter: we chew at the same pace but have different amounts of food and can eat leisurely
    Polyrhythm: same orders but the restaurant closes in a bit so get to eating?
    ---
    edit: spaced on the english

  • @EthanMckennaMusic
    @EthanMckennaMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't why I've been ignoring your channel for years. Awesome content! You rock

  • @JustinStarrPhotography
    @JustinStarrPhotography 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome that you played with a Brazilian samba group! My college had a Brazilian music ensemble and it got me playing a variety of Brazilian music genres. Great video.

  • @alvinoszavlis6914
    @alvinoszavlis6914 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish you put this out back when I was working on my polyrhythmic album! Very informative

  • @tbrickman
    @tbrickman 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve always been mesmerized by Long Gone! So glad you could shed some light on it!

  • @kartikaykhattar96
    @kartikaykhattar96 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not even a music producer nor will I ever do this. But just gaining extra information is my kind of thing. Thanks Huang for this video

  • @monstdnt
    @monstdnt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think ive been sleeping on your lessons because these explanations and graphics are so digestible! Thank you !!

  • @JTMusicbox
    @JTMusicbox 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’d actually never thought about mixing rhythms like this before but they seem like some great tools for adding a varied flavor to music compositions. Plus I’ll be sure to correctly distinguish the two as your descriptions were very helpful.

  • @ace.of.space.
    @ace.of.space. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    when you summarized the concept using the spacing of the letters in the words at 3:12 ... brilliant

  • @pursuitofnatural
    @pursuitofnatural 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent breakdown! For anyone using the latest version of Reaper, you can do the fast method with alt+shift and drag the end of the item when you get the hand cursor.

  • @Breisler
    @Breisler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally got around to watching this one. I've got a song where the guitars are in 11/16 and the drums are in 5/4, and it is a massive headache to perform live but when it works out it makes me feel like the polymeter god.

  • @thelorebooger
    @thelorebooger 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am thankful for this video. Thanks for releasing it on thanksgiving

  • @bauhnguefyische667
    @bauhnguefyische667 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I often run 2 or more un synced clocks. This creates an audio effect similar to turn signals in lines of stopped traffic, sometimes it syncs for a few beats in cycles and creates some really interesting sounds.

  • @thildamoon
    @thildamoon ปีที่แล้ว

    The jocke blew my mind. Loved it.
    Thanks