POLYRHYTHMS vs POLYMETERS
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will it ever be released on android?
i like ya cut g
@@fluffartistt We're looking into whether that's possible. Android doesn't handle audio as well and there are a LOT more screen sizes / device types to deal with, so it's a challenge
Will it be free?
does the e-mail subscription cost?
0:25
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hey there mr jazz man
B A S S
7/11
That was fast
Good timing
good comment
Good reply
Good reply to a reply
Why does it sound like ALL of his music is about an X gf? He mustve dated like carmen electra or some shit. Gr8 musician btw not hating.
Oh.. uou
Really clear, effective breakdown of an often confused topic! Nicely done Andrew 👍🏼🙂
Music teachers: we're going explain the concepts to make it more understandable
Andrew: *cow*
and cowbells
Right the easiest way to do it
That cowbell/cow track was fire.
MOO
MOO
MOO
the cowbell is a superior instrument
Not gonna lie i'd have that as a ringtone/alarmtone
yeah but I really need more cowbell
tupac woulda killed that shit
oooh... that graphic with the letterspacing/wordlength was actually really useful
I have a big... BIG... BIIIIGGGGG... muscles!!! HAHAHA!!! What did you think I was going for? That's so DIRTY of you! GAGAGAGA!!! I am the funniest TH-camr ever! Maybe that's the reason why I have TWO (!!!) HOT (!) GIRLFRIENDS. Thanks for being alive, dear mr
@@AxxLAfriku wow where can I buy what you're on
couldn't agree more.
Can you timestamp me that part?? I'm not getting the reference..
@@cloudscape5996 3:08
"What is my purpose?"
"You pass butter."
"... Oh my god."
Had to think of this.
Rick and Morty reference hehe
Robot is lucky. Most people are miserable because they feel like they have NO purpose in life 😂
The visual representations at around 3:10 are such a nice touch
Right?? I loved that! I'm definitely using that representation from now on 💯
we got polyproblems here
good one
Then I would recommend the podcast poly-weekly ;) it helped my relationship(s)
😂🤣👌
Polycliche
Didn't know Andrew has his twin as a slave that passes the goddamn butter.
He also waters and talks to plants.
That is his purpose.... Oh my God!
You pass the butter
Nor did I. Someone does have to pass the goddamn butter, though.
It's not a twin, it's an imprisoned demon clone andrew tricked into staying with his immaculate music
The way Andrew represents the difference visually at 3:10 is genius
That polyrhythm midi editing in ableton just blew my world apart.
Enjoyed this video a lot! You’re killing it my friend
hi rami
Enjoyed this video a lot! You're killing my friend
Roomie and andrew collab on a poly rhythm track plz
Roomie can you do a video showing how you produce your music? BTW Love from India
roomieswami
the cow-cowbell thingy could do as an awfully effective alarm
⚠️ Warning: this channel contains a killer level of aesthetics hidden under the guise of simplicity
*production value 🙄
If you are using Studio One, then you can apply the 2nd or non-time consuming method 8:08 (both audio and midi) although the particular two (or more sounds) need to be on different tracks.
I will be using the order of tracks as given in the video for my examples and methods.
For Midi, arrange the notes in the way that Mr. Andrew has instructed you to 8:12 (on different tracks in S1 of course).
Now Time Stretch the midi event of the longer track so that the last note is at the very start of the next bar (somewhat like the instructions here 8:31).
It is quite the same for audio, with a few changes.
For audio, follow the first step used for the midi track. Now merge the 2nd track and bounce to new track.
Then Time Stretch it so that the start of last sound of the bounced out event is at the very start of the next bar.
I hope you found this useful! (Please pardon my mistakes in my English if there are any, as I'm not a Native Speaker)
[Also a huge thanks to you Mr. Andrew as I did not understand the difference between Polymeters and Polyrhythm until today]
0:25 someone finally freaking said it. And doesn't surprise me it's coming from the one youtube music persona who writes odd rhythms but makes it actually sound like it is musical.
😅
It makes sense
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Sungazer. The rhythms are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of music theory most of the songs will go over a typical listener's head.
@@crapadopalese It's a variation on old copypasta about Rick&Morty
@@crapadopalese in the words of a classic: "it's a meme you dip"
Cute roast on Adam Neely and Jacob Collier.
"Pass the god damn butter." ~Andrew Huang, Thanksgiving 2020
That animation of the words at around 3:20 was pure gold
Yo fellow Logic Pro users, to use the method shown at 8:26, hit control + T (on Mac) while in the piano roll, have funnn
eyyy it's Aldo
Holy, I love some of the random sprinkles of over the top or unexpected editing (like 3:02 where another Andrew passes the goddamn butter or 6:05 where everything just hits differently)!
I freeze framed @6:16 and was not disappointed.
@@raverone909 that is one musical butt
me, as a brazilian: ih rapaz o tamborim igualzinho uma chamada de bateria
*3s later*
andrew: so i got that from brazilian samba
Eu quase escrevi um comentário em inglês, mas vamos deixar os gringos aqui com a beleza do nosso idioma à mostra :P
I knew j heard something Brazilian sounding in there
Brazilians watching the video:
Wait a minute, is that SaMbA?
😂👌🏼
Eu tambem sou brasileiro
Polymeters=Same Beat
Polyrhythm=Same Measure
Thanks!
polyriddim.
ye
yeah, we know by now
WOOP WOOP
I can hear the drop
I don't really know much about it and probably have it confused with samba, but don't some carribean genres use polyrythms?
It's amazing how much you do for the music community. So much free information organised into concise and entertaining videos. I've learnt so much over the years and feel like I never had to "study", just watch entertaining videos.
8:30 you can do this in FL without the extra note!
The video, the editing, Andrew him self, just so professional
Holy shit the editing
Always. A Train is next level.
The fact that you used king crimson as an example for math rock has just won me so many arguments.
the "crazy math" montage is still fire two years later
The part from 6:05 - 6:35 was so dramatic I thought he was going to say it would take a year or something for it to line up again.
xD
That intro to Theory Thursday is SO well made Andrew
starting at 6:05 the amount of editing correlating with visuals and then audio plus to mention the emotions expressed simultaneously is extremely impressive. *hands applauding*
Not only are you clearly a talented musician, but I'm always struck by the creativity of your filming and especially editing. Always educational, inspiring, and entertaining!
I'm so glad you finally discussed Long Gone. It's my favorite song off Stars and the rhythm always satisfied my mathcore soul
Now I can‘t stop imagining a young emo Chopin yelling at his mom to stop calling him Freddy. “My name is ‘show pain‘ now, UGH you just don‘t GET me“
Awww... that’s so cute 😂 Fryderyk did make a lot of pretty emo comments, including: "It is not my fault if I am like a mushroom which seems edible but which poisons you if you pick it and taste it, taking it to be something else,"
If you haven't already, go check out Virtual Riot's "I heard you like polyrhythms" track. It's so simple yet beautiful
Also came from that video.
Loved it, keep them theory videos coming mah dude
Polyriddim converted into polymeters? Someone do this
Weh?
Polymetrim?
Phonon?
@@s-zz yes
Oh look it's dwooswa again
Great visualizations and editing to explain the music theory, I’ve always realized you make complex rhythms sound really good
Each new vids your editing gets better and better (while it was already awesome), well done!
The editing in this one was incredible, Andrew. The best part by far, for me, was the simultaneously functional and visually striking typography using the font alignment. Genius.
5:4 is a fun one, the saying is
I’m looking for a home to buy
:))
For more fun with meters with five beats, the Uruk-hai in the Lord of the Rings march to a count of five. Their war drums beat on one and four.
3:12 Great animation for understanding the difference! That's going to be my new background
Loved the video editing. Great job!
Your video editing is ingenious!! Really engaging, but not distracting. Excellent excellent work.
This is a whole unique league of youtubing
Cool samba tambourine, thats a REALLY cliche rythmn here
Hugs from brazil
Holy mackerel, your videos are truly amazing. Educational, fun to watch, aesthetically pleasing and very musical.
My cows went absolutely bananas when that first example played.
5:58 -6:35 Is a masterpiece
hey, you can hold down shift to drag the grey marker with the notes selected staying intact. that way you can do note transformations without needing to add an extra note.
?
Love the new friends you got over in your studio
you have no idea how much it pleases me to see this broken down for viewers in a manner that simplifies the misuse of this term. Ive had this conversation more times this year than I could possibly remember and now I can just send this link instead. Nailed it.
happy thanksgiving everyone 🦃
"what is my purpose?"
"you pass butter."
"oh my God"
3:02
...yeah, welcome to the club pal
Wow. This video is soooo wel made. You're simply a great storyteller Andrew.
Recently found your channel again and ah now I am so in the mood to make cool music. Thank you
This is a great resource for music theory learners!
King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard uses this A LOT, and i love them.
Check out the album Polygondwanaland. Especially the song Crumbling Castle.
amazing video Andrew! super informative and inspiring
I literally subbed because the editting is so funny! Love it keep up the good work
Yo Andrew, that King Crimson piece is called Discipline, not Disciple, I think? Nonetheless, a wonderfull vid. You're a god of music education to me.
this is correct, and I'm glad someone said it lol
Yeah, Discipline is the correct title. An essential prog song from the band😃
The whole album is really great, actually my favorite I think
Holy shit, I’ve been mixing their names up for *years*, and had no idea-thanks!
I was literally writing a song called polyrythms and it was all polymeters, thank you for saving me Andrew.
I had this question in my head the other day and I'm so happy you answered it!
I didn't think this would be relevant to me cuz I'm not a big music theory nerd but I actually enjoyed and learned a lot, thanks andrew
If you check out Meshuggah, their music is mostly polymetric, and aggressively so: you don't need to be a music nerd to hear that something strange is going on, and you'll see members headbanging out of sync, but then matching up (check out Pravus live as a good example). I can't think of a solid example of polyrhythms, but Tool sometimes have polyrhythms and polymeters in the same song, like Invincible. That one is nuts!
the thumbnail is just my melted music brain seeing the title
I’ve always been mesmerized by Long Gone! So glad you could shed some light on it!
This is so good dude! Very informative!
Gonna use the second example at Thanksgiving dinner tonight. Credit will go to Andrew!
My new favorite thing is poly phrases: For example, putting a 4-measure melody over a 3-measure chord progression, so the chords shift every time the phrase repeats
Isn't this just polymetric?
Not quite. Everything in the same time signature, but one part is playing three-bar phrases and one is playing four-bar phrases. It's a lot more subtle than polymeter when you listen to it.
Fair... I guess I'm just saying that if you keep your polymeter in multiples of an underlying time signature, it stops sounding like polymeter and sounds like something else, which is less in-your-face
definitely one of your best videos!!!
I am thankful for this video. Thanks for releasing it on thanksgiving
Going deeper into the math-rock, the "djent" subsubgenre of progressive metal can very much be about that - whether it be Meshuggah's "New Millenium Cyanide Christ" (23/16 on 4/4), or TesseracT's "Palingenesis" (13/8 on 3/4).
Also if you want another "spoken word polyrhythm", 5:4 can have the phrase "go to bed, go upstairs to bed".
Autechre and The Algorithm use polymeter as well. I also use it in my metal and IDM projects, it's freakin fun as heck to play guitar to.
i listen to a lot of mathy stuff but meshuggah are the gods of polyrhythmic/polymetric metal as far as i'm concerned, no one else commits to it like them
If you really want to see some odd meters, check out indian konnokol rhythms
@@patrickcompton1483 Indian Classical Music is one of the most complicated musical systems in the world. I am particularly a fan of the Raga Bhairav :)
That tiny detail of explaining the difference between both concepts by animating their respective name (3:07) in a way that visually reflects their audible properties is the entire reason I watch educational TH-cam content. Like I'm never gonna forget the difference between these two things now thanks to that. Great stuff as always, Andrew! :D
edit: fixed timestamp
This guy even snaps his fingers brilliantly
FANTASTIC video! You've outdone yourself
Calling Jacob Collier and Adam Neely out for being so extra to flex all the time lol
They taught us “pass the bread and butter” because we were classy.
brits?
And not as Sassy
I have no idea if I'll ever end up using polymeters or polyrhythms all that much but I just love to learn about a new topic with the way you explain things so clearly. Keep killin it man!
Whoever took over your video graphics is doing a BANGIN job.
Any tool fan out there?? 😂
We are used to this mate!
I could NEVER do that ... the snapping at different rates... never.
that butter though, lol
I had exactly the same thought. Saw him do it and concluded "our brains are just different". But then he gave the vocal phrase trick and it just worked right away for me.
You definitely could with a little practice. It's not that hard once you get the rhythm
Excellent video! One of your best, really educational and fun. Thanks :)
Awesome work Andrew! Wasn’t even aware these were differentiated and named.. thanks!!
Just realised at 4:53 that my understanding of rhythm is shit 😂😂😂😂
So let me get this straight...
Polymeter: we chew at the same pace but have different amounts of food and can eat leisurely
Polyrhythm: same orders but the restaurant closes in a bit so get to eating?
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edit: spaced on the english
youre the best man! love that crazy math video edit :D
Loved the mad edits! Cheers for the lesson
Fun Fact: Statitistaclly, Going to work is more dangerous than going to war. Guess that’s that….
Fun fact: That spelling of "statistically" is wrong in at least three places!
@@Roxfox lol
This video was awesome, thank you!! It’s inspired me to create some more stuff. I can’t wait to give it a try!
good and fun video, it's been a while but I remembered your MV "Good Run" and I'm watching more of your videos I haven't seen.
thx for the great and educational pass-time.
As always, educational and entertaining as well. Nice!
About time!
This is soo well made dude. I really want theory Thursday more ☺️
Bro, I love your channel. It fucking crushes man. I've learned so much from you. You're literally the definition of how to be an educator in the 21st century. Straight up, you're better than any educator ive ever scene in university. Mad props.
dude ur visual metaphors for things are mindblowing - the letters of polyrhythm and polymeter symbolizing their definitions... genius