Hey Chris! I've been loving your live streams, but I've noticed the live chat has been getting more and more crowded (which is good, I love that people are watching!) Have you ever thought about enabling slow mode for the live chat? It allows you to set limits for how frequently people can send messages, and it tends to help make the chat much less messy. Just thought I might throw that out there!
Bachelor Fantake we still haven’t seen the fuzzy socks scene...right? So Madi stays. She’s fuzzy socks girl. I still don’t think she’s the final pick though, this will probably bother her too much. She’s the obvious front runner, too obvious. They wouldn’t leave in the blatant “if it were to end now, I would choose her/I choose you” lines in hometowns/this episode if there wasn’t a twist ending. All signs lead to Hannah Ann.
@@ulijohn402 Yes I don't think we've seen the fuzzy socks yet! Though they did cut out Hannah Ann's "morning after" footage from this episode so it could be from there too.
Madison: please don't sleep with the other women. Hannah Ann: you do what you need to do, I'll be here for you no matter what (while her face crumbles and eyes fill with tears) Victoria: No concern for Peter sleeping with others, just lasers in on Madison spelling out details of what Peter might be doing right this very moment. Now that's love!
She obviously wasn’t going to tell them that it blew up in her face. She wants the other women to continue feeling intimidated by her and hope that one or both of them start having doubts about their relationships with Peter and leave so she can end up with him
From a guy’s perspective, if I was in love with someone I wouldn’t even consider going all the way with the other two. Based on this episode, he wants Madison. She is best one out of all them, especially during the beginning of this season. I don’t have any respect for him as he keeps going with Victoria.
Dude, totally agree with you. This guy is immature and basically wants to have his cake (sleep with the other women) and eat it too (propose to Madison). The guy is an idiot
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!! And I get that this is a show and he has to date multiple women, but he doesn’t have to sleep with them, he CHOSE to. And if I was Madi, Hannah, or Victoria I would be pissed with his whole “I can’t choose I love all three” crap! I mean look at Nick and Colton, they didn’t sleep with anyone but their F1 (if Colton has even had sex with Cassie, he doesn’t want to share anymore), and compare that to Kaitlyn who has spoken about how their relationship fell apart specifically because the F1 couldn’t get over that she slept with Nick. It’s better to come clean up front than to go along with it to be cool, and then have those negative feelings fester.
@@taylorgayhart9497 Agreed, and while Madison struggled to make her position clear, Peter would have to be an idiot to not know that sleeping with the others would be a deal breaker for her. But, this guy seemingly has a tough time keeping his ding-dong in his pants, because you know,, he's Cuban! What baloney. He wanted to have sex and figured he'd take his chances, hoping he'd talk Madison into staying. He's clueless about women.
M243423 Crusty??? I think they look so long and beautiful I want to kno what mascara she uses! I’m shocked to hear the complete opposite thing said about the same lashes
I don't think it was important for Madison to tell Peter she was a virgin, but it was crucial for her to tell him she was waiting for marriage early on so that Peter could decide if that is something he also wanted. You can't force someone to have the same values as you, and you shouldn't also change who you are to suit anybody.
You also shouldn't give away all your requirements but rather sit back and see what that person's character actually is. Giving away the answer key taints the validity of a test
Keisha Puryear yeah I agree. I feel like she wanted to wait and feel him out and see where the relationship would go before brining up something that wasn’t relevant at the time. I think talking about how important her faith is to her in general was important early on, and she did that!
except she clearly stated that she didn’t expect her partner to have made the same decisions she had, or to have the same views on the topic as her. she was so respectful to peter and chose her words so carefully to make sure she wasn’t “forcing him” or controlling him.
like i really respect her beliefs and the high expectations she holds on herself and her future husband but she should’ve known going into this whole process that he would possibly be intimate with other women. she also claimed that she was “really clear with him” even tho she never specifically told him what she wanted and what her morals were so...
@@MsDesiree39 No it is not stupid. If you are truly in love with someone, you respect their boundaries. Plenty of people have done it and no one said anything about years. Not everyone wants to jump in bed with a guy after they say hi. Im glad she has standards
Peter breaking down in tears and crying while begging Madison not to leave was a hugeeee tell like he didn’t have that kinda passion or feelings with the other women. Team Madison all the way even though she says like and umm too much!
Lilly T but she hasn’t even told peter she loves him! That’s a big thing to expect from a boy where you can’t reciprocate his feelings I’m team peter being alone all the girls suck
I heard a theory that when Madison first auditioned to be on the show, it was for Colton's season, and honestly, I think they would have been a great match
the thing I take away from this is Peter likes sex, a lot to the point he kept one of the most toxic (from what we see) women in the running for his heart just to sleep with her. He could have just not slept with anyone and just got to know them personally for once, and learn from being sent home right after Fantasy suites.
He is doing what was done to him. From what I understand Hannah only slept with Peter- maybe maybe Jed? But like he got the boot right after. Meaning that there is so so much more to a relationship than Sex. If that was the only time I had with no cameras I’d talk about EVERYTHING - I’d rather do that than sleep with them pick one based off of that and find stuff out later idk like don’t tell multiple women you love them and don’t sleep with all of them. Just refrain from looking like a douche.
thestaceofspade that’s what I’m talking about. For me, imo if hometowns didn’t work why in the world would you sleep with that person and give the illusion at possibility of marriage? He’s coming across as cruel and he probably doesn’t even know that’s how he looks; a horndog with no tact
Vic F's nonchalant attitude to their date was how I approached every episode .. yea let's do this! 🙄 Now I know exactly why Hannah B didn't choose Peter. Hopefully someday with the right girl he actually has a personality.
@@tigerroselili5765 I could have sworn he was going to be great. He was so personable on her season. But all he is is a recording of what the producers tell him.
i don't understand sleeping with two other people when you're so seriously into one person. if it's a week until engagement time, you probably already know who you're picking, and therefore, the one person you want to be intimate with. maybe i'm just super monogamous, but when i'm into someone, i would feel too guilty to be with someone else that way. but other bachelors and bachelorettes do this too--it's a problem i have with the show, not just peter. but c'mon. even nick viall only slept with vanessa at fantasy suites.
Yes, I'd rather watch 11 minutes of this then the entire 2 hour show. I learn what happens, I laugh hysterically and have more time to watch other reality shows. This is super funny!
If Peter was "confused" about what Madi was trying to say about "spending the night with the other women" & he really loved and/or cared about Madi, why would he not pull her aside to figure it all out before the Fantasy Suites???
I'm wondering if Peter didn't feel so much pressure to have sex with them because of all the Windmill hype? I also feel like the producers deliberately made Madison's date last knowing conflict would arise with her. The producers forget real people with real feelings are involved.
Crystal Banchor Madison is definitely the best of the three choices. However, good girls usually finish last. If Peter let’s Madison go, it will be the biggest mistake of his life. There is deep, true love between them and Madison would be a loving, trusting wife. I guess Peter can’t see the ‘Forest’ for the other two trees! Sad, so sad...
I knew Victoria wasn't the best person, but when she said "or getting ready for bed!" That didn't sit well with me. The reason behind it seemed like it was to make Madison mad/upset. She had that mocking smile on, too. Disappointed but not surprised 😒
Idk I feel like Madison made it pretty damn clear to him what her expectations are in a relationship without making it forceful on him because she doesn’t want to be controlling when she talked to him after the rose ceremony
I agree!!!! She gave him a choice, and he showed her that he didn't love her enough to wait. He was selfish, and also used Hannah Ann and/or Victoria... which is also gross. It was soooo obvious that Madi was his #1 choice. He cried when she did! His face in the promo when he sees Victoria and Hannah Ann standing there said EVERYTHING. He knew he messed up. He knew neither one of those girls was wife material. He was left with the child and the train wreck.
Maybe Peter should just pick Victoria so they can have an open relationship, continue sleeping with as many people as possible (bonus points if they're married), and both be happy!
Valerie Parker I agree! This was a clear attempt to cause harm to Maddie, who simply wanted to honor God, and save herself (as a gift) to her forever husband. And now, that we know she'd like to become a missionary, and help with children in 3rd world countries, she probably, also wanted to be a witness of her faith. ✝️🕊❤️ Having a pilot for a husband would be great. His job could go anywhere. Just saying... Christians know that no one can be perfect. 😔Humbly honoring and trusting in our God is a sign of maturity for all of God's creation. Just saying...
@@prettypleasevideo Your "religious" perspective made me want to gag. I can't see a free bird like Peter following this dull woman all over the world. He needs someone more like Hannah from the Bachelorette. Even his parents are opposite her parents. This does NOT make Madison superior to Peter. She needs to look up Luke P. They would fit nicely together.
@@karens170 Great remark! She also gets on my nerves constantly twisting her mouth around. And ALL of them can't make a coherent sentence without saying "LIKE" every other word. Yuk!
If he wanted Madison to stay he should have thought about that before banging the other women. Period. I hope she does walk away from him because actions do speak louder than words.
Okay but what about the other women? What if sex is a big deal for them and they wanted to see the chemistry they have with peter before a proposal? It goes both ways, it’s a tough situation
This episode bothered me so bad. Literally nothing happened EXCEPT what we already saw in the previews... no rose ceremony?? Nothing resolved? Tired of these cliffhanger episodes and this freaking season haha.
I think you said what was wrong with what Madison did really eloquently. There is NOTHING WRONG with waiting till marriage and NOTHING WRONG with wanting someone who has the same values as you. But she should've been upfront about it earlier, and she should've been more ready to deal with the possibility of him being with other women having signed up for this show. Yes, its weird to sleep with one person and then get engaged to someone else right after, but this show is NOT realistic, and never really has been- fantasy suites and their ~insinuation~ are present every season. And Yes we've seen Peter make some really terrible decisions (cough Victoria F. cough), but I think he acted fairly in this situation. They just seem incompatible.
Let’s say Peter hadn’t slept with the other women and in the end chooses Madison; She still has her beliefs. Peter wants to travel and have adventures with his partner, and has shown he likes sex (obviously) and if it happens it the moment, it happens. They would travel, have an “in the moment” situation and he’d want to have sex, but she wouldn’t because of her beliefs and would (maybe) feel he wasn’t respecting that or that it was just a “in the moment” thing. I just don’t see it working either way because no one is thinking about what an actual relationship requires outside of a tv show (religion, children, living situations, etc.) Also I’m not saying Peter isn’t a respectful guy, I’m just saying things happen and situations can be misinterpreted. (We’re also not shown everything that happens behind the camera so just assumptions)
I would agree, but there's no gurantee that if he proposes they'll get married right away and an engagement is still not marriage so she would wait until the wedding night and who knows when that is.
If Peter likes Madison so much and has everything for her, there are a few things i wanna point out. 1. Why didnt he goes for the first fantasy suite with Madison? So that he can be romance and have a chance to take advantage with her? 2. Why not he lies to her instead and tell her that he didnt have any intimate relationship with others? 3. Or last, be honest and respect and obey her expectation and so he can win her heart?
I mean she didnt tell him before fantasy suite like she saving herself for marriage!!! If he knew he could have taken it more serious. Also he just took it as she will just be uncomfortable lol
@@3cookiess he knew what she meant though He knew she didnt want him having sex with other women and then possibly proposing to her 5 days later. In real life, any normal person wouldn't understand that either. He should have been respectful to all 3 women regardless of their beliefs. You don't have to have sex in the fantasy suites. he definitely could have waited. But Madison also should have told him way sooner that she was saving herself. why couldnt she tell him this on her first one on one date?
Peter to Victoria F. "I'm so glad we had this conversation...I feel so much better about us now ..." Peter! … Absolutely NOTHING is ever resolved in these "conversations."
Honestly, while she only said that she "might" not be able to get past the fact that he had slept with other women, it was easy to tell from the way that she hesitated so much that she wouldn't be. She did give him an ultimatum in my opinion, though I hate to agree with Victoria F, and he made the decision to sleep with Hannah Ann and Victoria (or just one but let's be real) and now she wants to bail. It is on him that he made the decision to sleep with them, and seeing Colton's season we know if he really wanted to he could've ended it when she said she wouldn't be able to move forward. He did what he wanted and slept with the other women and honestly I don't think that he cares enough about her to not have made that decision. You can do FS and not sleep with the person, a lot of people don't sleep with the person, look at Hannah and Tyler. There are other people that have come forward and said the same thing. Just saying
I agree she should've told him about saving herself for marriage sooner and that the conversation she had with him about her expectations wasn't communicated in the best way, but here's how I see it: if she was truly Peter's frontrunner in his mind and he saw himself picking her at the final rose ceremony, he shouldn't have slept with any of the other women. Period. Madison deserves so much better than that.
For Peter, having sex now seems to be more important than what happens later. Or maybe he thought he could talk his way out after having sex with the other two.
I have to agree. I think it's amazing that Madison is so proud of her faith and has high standards for herself. I just wish she hadn't been so afraid of sharing it with Peter sooner. Even if it meant he sent her home, then that would mean he's just not the man for her and that's okay. It's not wrong what she told him or even how she said it, it's WHEN she tells him. Literally in the 11th hour. I know she does give him a preview of how she feels but like in the video...she isn't exactly clear about it. I'm not shaming her, and there's no shade here, only love. Just giving my perspective.
Jasmeen Dhaliwal that’s what I’m saying... I feel like if she was the one, he wouldn’t of let her go. For Pete sake, Colton jumped a damn fence when Cassie left. Cause like pleasssssse tell me that he really has no idea at this point and equally likes 3 women 🙄
Maddy his actions make me uncomfortable, especially when (in recent interviews) he has been saying he was decided on his final choice before week four?
Either that or she didn't want her personal business announced to the world if she didn't have to. I don't know why everyone gets to keep their sexual history to themselves unless they are a virgin. Then it's somehow everyone else's business. For all she knew, Peter could send her home earlier. I think he's pretty dumb, honestly. She doesn't drink, she told him how important her faith is and how she wants a spiritual leader in her home, etc. Her family is clearly very religious as well. Her dad mentioned how pure Madi is... How did Peter not see this coming? Peter doesn't ask any of the girls questions about themselves. I've never seen a Bachelor have such shallow/impersonal conversations. Ugh I'm just so over Peter lol
I mean it doesn’t matter that she went on reality TV or goes to Christian mingle to find a guy the point is she believes if a guy is worthy to be her husband he is willing to not chase temptation out of love for her and return she will give him her all and everlasting loyalty. Just because this is the bachelor doesn’t mean she couldn’t have found that it’s not like she judged for Peter not being a virgin and I think she has a point how can a guy get down on one knee and propose when 6 days ago he was sleeping around with other girls even if the bachelor is reality tv what happening in the end is very serious
@mahlaka, I'm pretty sure she knew about Peter and tge windmill so where does she get off thinking that she is so special that he would not be intimate with other women for her while not being upfront about her virginity? It's dumb
I think it’s messed up that she waited for so long to tell him about how strongly her faith is and about saving herself. I don’t think peter truly saw how important the no sex with the other girls was...I think if she had told him she was saving herself it would have changed his look on it. 🤷🏻♀️ kind of also feel like if she had of been open from the beginning of the show she might not have made it to the end. I have nothing against her I just think that’s the reality of it.
I think that’s a major reason why she didn’t tbh. I feel like she was hoping that if they had a strong enough connection/relationship I’m the end, then it would all just work itself out
It truly isn’t an easy thing for her, specially seeing how they handled Colton’s virginity. I truly believe she tried to tell him sooner but telling someone privately and doing so on TV are two different things
Luke said Hannah wouldn’t be a woman of faith if she had slept with the other men. It was very judgmental of her as a person. Maddison isn’t judging Peter, just explaining how she would react. I do think Maddison should have told him sooner though, and been clearer.
here is my theory! no spoilers because i actually don't know if its true but just what i think is going to happen.. So Madison comes to the rose ceremony but tells peter she is leaving after getting the rose. That's why we see the car drive away and peter seems upset about it. So it comes down to Hannah Ann and Victoria F but only one rose left. Peters mom is crying because she wants Madison to return but he doesn't know how that can happen. When it comes down to proposals Madison ends up coming back and that's why Chris is talking to peter saying we just found out. And why peter then doesn't know what to do. The season is unspoiled because he ends up going home to think about it. I think he will end up proposing to Hannah Ann though because he will think about the way Madison made him feel and decide he doesn't want to be with someone who would give him no options like she did.
I think its odd we were all pissed at Luke P. for telling Hannah B that he didn't want her sleeping with the other guys and yet Madison does the EXACT SAME THING to Peter and everyone's like "Go Madison! she deserves so much better!"
@@clalyrics441 Yep. I think Madison got a good edit because A). Peter probably picks her and B). none of the contestants were particularly great this season.
i completely get where madison is coming from but also it’s not like she didn’t know fantasy suites were an important part of the process before she went on the show. Peters also dating the two others and does have feelings for them so it isn’t fair for her to ask him not to explore that with them, she knew it was a strong possibility before she applied for the show 🤷🏼♀️
But not everyone has sex with multiple people in the fantasy suites. Lots of contestants either only had sex with the person they chose in the end, or they didn't have sex with anyone and used the fantasy suite to get to spend some off-camera time together. How is it fair for Peter to have sex with the other girls and then propose to her six days later? 6 days is magically going to change his feelings? I don't think so. It is so obvious Madi was his #1. He had no intention of being with Hannah Ann or Victoria. He just kept them around to have sex with them.... one last fling before settling down with Madi. It's sooo obvious. He is so fake with Victoria and Hannah. His tears when Madi was hurt were the only real moment of the whole night. So I think that's my problem with it. I think he knew 100% that Madi was his pick, but he chose to have sex with the other girl/s, anyways. It's gross.
@@bunny_0288 Agreed. Who the hell wants to get engaged to someone who had sex with someone else less than a week ago? The bachelor/ette can technically do whatever they want but they need to understand the consequences of doing so.
@@hailey7368 Thank you! And it's not like they are forced to have sex with every contestant. Yes, the show gives them the opportunity to spend the night together, but they are the ones that make the decision of what to do in that room. And those decisions have consequences. Nick V. talked about how sleeping with the other contestants caused lots of problems for previous Bachelors which is why he only slept with Vanessa. He didn't want to jeopardize the future of their relationship on a one night stand. Plus, it's also really disrespectful to the people you sleep with and then send home! Peter basically used Victoria and/or Hannah Ann. There is no way he is still confused about his feelings this far in. His tears said everything.
BUT if he really loves her more than the rest why would he want to have sex with the other girls, it was just for the sex. One of them is cray cray, REALLY you want to have sex with the one you can't have a conversation with and is constantly whining?????
I think neither Madison nor Peter are totally in the wrong. It's perfectly legitimate for Madison not to like the idea to possibly be purposed by someone who just slept with someone else a few days prior, especially if Peter has expressed that he feels more strongly about her. In real life, many of us, religious or not, wouldn't be totally okay with that idea. But I also think that Peter (just like any other lead) has the prerogative of exploring what he thinks he needs to explore in the fantasy suites, including sex, if it gives him a better idea of who to choose and at this point, he doesn't owe a vow of fidelity to anyone.
I agree with Paulo u know what goes on why come on the show and wait that long first u had no business there saving ur self for marriage it's not Church show look in church for who u want come-on unfair only wanting the man to persue u now what will she give in to Peter if he now shed tears after her makes no sense find a church partner
Madison should leave. She made it clear that she'd lose respect for herself if she didn't (bending her own rules and expectations). She told Peter what she wanted and he made a choice to risk his relationship with her to further the other two relationships. If he truly can't lose her he should have thought of that before he slept with the other women knowing full well that it risked his relationship with Madison.
I disagree with you. She didn’t need to tell him about her virginity until the fantasy suite. That should not be something you build a relationship on and she brought it up when it was pertinent to the relationship. Regardless of all that, her being a virgin has nothing to do with being uncomfortable with getting engaged to someone who slept with someone else less than a week earlier. Most people would not be okay with that.
I think he might not have slept with Victoria. 1. When they wake up the morning after, they talk a lot about "last night" and somehow it feels, that it was more about their conversation and emotional bond. 2. Victorias face, whenn Hannah Ann tells her about Madisons "ultimatum" is like "WHAT!!! So that's why he didn't sleep with me???" and her reaction is mush stronger. He slept with Hannah Ann in spite of the ultimatum, so, that gives her extra confidence and she is pretty calm. But Victoria goes balistic. It think if he had slept with her, she would be more cocky instead of angry. 3. When Peter and Madison talk he asks her, if she would walk away because of "something that happend this week with an other relationship of mine." - Singular Maybe he knew at the last ceremony, M and HA are his final two, but didn't want to drag Kelsey on...
I totally respect Madison for wanting to save herself for marriage but expecting him to refrain from how he expresses himself. She should have said, "if I'm the one I can't see how you'd even consider sleeping with other girls. If you love the three of us how are you going to suddenly pick one? and even if I'm the one will you be *able* to wait until marriage to have sex with me?" If he truly loves her he would. If he said no, she should have walked. Instead she hardly was straight forward and short of put this shaming spin on it. Also, I would love to stay in the fantasy suite with the final three but that doesn't automatically mean I had sex with them. If I was either on the bachelor or I was the bachelorette, I wouldn't want to have sex with anyone knowing I have to send two home. I don't necessarily believe in waiting til marriage but I do believe intimacy is special and I'd want to respect my own feelings and the consideration of others. Also....hard to believe that she never heard about "windmill four times " peter at all before the show unless she was a bachelor nation newbie. This is something she should have brought up at least last week to him. Total producer stunt.
Here's my take on it: Not only should Madison not have gone on to the show due to Peter and her values not lining up (which was made obvious by the windmill fiasco), but she she should have told Peter about her values before hand. As someone who is saving sex for marriage as well, I mention that basically at the beginning. You avoid all this mess by just being real. I do think she did a better job at presenting her beliefs better than Luke P though (who also should not have been on the frickin show.) He shamed Hannah for having sex and basically said "you had sex and are now beneath me, but because I love you I'll let it slide, you heathen." Madison basically said "you can do what you want but if you do have sex that indicates that our values don't line up and I don't want to be in a relationship like that." What is very telling though is the fact that she said she has compromised because Peter is worth it. I've seen it happen many times before. A person with seemingly very strong faith starts to compromise in order to be with someone they like and ends up losing their faith or causing their significant other to start practicing that faith w/o any actual belief in it to keep them. Usually it ends up being both at the same time. Now Peter, ...*sigh*...Dear Peter. I do not like the "oh, it's the bachelor. That's what fantasy suites are for. He can have sex with all of them if he wants" excuse. There have been bachelors/bachelorettes before that did not have sex with anyone on the show other than the one person they chose at the end after the show. There have also been bachelors/bachelorettes that have not kissed many of the contestants. Peter, you could have waited until you picked the final person to have sex with them. The fact that he didnt really have any serious conversations with all THREE of the girls, especially Victoria, tells me he was so adamant about having a connection with all of them Because he just wanted to have sex. I don't believe that if you actually love someone you can be okay with having sex with another person. That goes for all of the girls. If Peter loved ALL 3 OF THEM like he said, he would not have had sex with any one of them out of respect for each girl. I agree with Madison when she said that it would make her uncomfortable to have Peter get down on one knee to propose 6 days after he had sex with someone else. Based off his decisions on the show, he is not ready for marriage at all.
I'm not drinking tea for a week cus I expect to get my fill at the Women Tell All
Hey Chris! I've been loving your live streams, but I've noticed the live chat has been getting more and more crowded (which is good, I love that people are watching!) Have you ever thought about enabling slow mode for the live chat? It allows you to set limits for how frequently people can send messages, and it tends to help make the chat much less messy. Just thought I might throw that out there!
Bachelor Fantake we still haven’t seen the fuzzy socks scene...right? So Madi stays. She’s fuzzy socks girl. I still don’t think she’s the final pick though, this will probably bother her too much. She’s the obvious front runner, too obvious. They wouldn’t leave in the blatant “if it were to end now, I would choose her/I choose you” lines in hometowns/this episode if there wasn’t a twist ending. All signs lead to Hannah Ann.
@@lasagna312 I'll definitely be looking into it!
@@ulijohn402 Yes I don't think we've seen the fuzzy socks yet! Though they did cut out Hannah Ann's "morning after" footage from this episode so it could be from there too.
Madison: please don't sleep with the other women.
Hannah Ann: you do what you need to do, I'll be here for you no matter what (while her face crumbles and eyes fill with tears)
Victoria: No concern for Peter sleeping with others, just lasers in on Madison spelling out details of what Peter might be doing right this very moment. Now that's love!
Peter's final 3 basically explains the difference between who a guy wants to date, sleep with, and marry. 🤯
So I'm gonna guess it's Hannah Ann to date, Victoria to sleep with, and Madi to marry?
Thank you for this. It makes it more understandable now lol
Wow the truth comes out
Becky Panda in that order! ☺️
These three are still girls, none are marriage material
Victoria F when she said her hometown date went well: 🤥
VF must be on meds. She makes absolutely no sense.
Shes delusional
She obviously wasn’t going to tell them that it blew up in her face. She wants the other women to continue feeling intimidated by her and hope that one or both of them start having doubts about their relationships with Peter and leave so she can end up with him
@@bebeerin Nah she's waiting for one of the others to marry him so she'll finally start taking her relationship with Peter seriously 🤣
Cla Lyrics I- 😂💀💀💀
"I'm starting to fall in love with you" says Peter to every women
Monica Creator He’s a jerk.
Also Peter with every woman: "this is the best feeling I've had".
It's like he falls in love with whoever he is with! It's bizarre.
Does anyone in real life even say this?! I haven't!
And "see, this is what I want"
I can't help but think the producers were on a major sabotage this season. Way too much control!!!!
You r so right.
Absolutely!
They have turned a fun show into something unwatchable.
No doubt
I'm sorry but the producers are really mean.
From a guy’s perspective, if I was in love with someone I wouldn’t even consider going all the way with the other two. Based on this episode, he wants Madison. She is best one out of all them, especially during the beginning of this season. I don’t have any respect for him as he keeps going with Victoria.
Mike Rini Thank uu!!!!
Dude, totally agree with you. This guy is immature and basically wants to have his cake (sleep with the other women) and eat it too (propose to Madison). The guy is an idiot
Right!?! Especially if you haven’t made a final choice yet!! Nick Viall chose to sleep with Vanessa only bc he knew he was gonna pick her in the end
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!! And I get that this is a show and he has to date multiple women, but he doesn’t have to sleep with them, he CHOSE to. And if I was Madi, Hannah, or Victoria I would be pissed with his whole “I can’t choose I love all three” crap! I mean look at Nick and Colton, they didn’t sleep with anyone but their F1 (if Colton has even had sex with Cassie, he doesn’t want to share anymore), and compare that to Kaitlyn who has spoken about how their relationship fell apart specifically because the F1 couldn’t get over that she slept with Nick. It’s better to come clean up front than to go along with it to be cool, and then have those negative feelings fester.
@@taylorgayhart9497 Agreed, and while Madison struggled to make her position clear, Peter would have to be an idiot to not know that sleeping with the others would be a deal breaker for her. But, this guy seemingly has a tough time keeping his ding-dong in his pants, because you know,, he's Cuban! What baloney. He wanted to have sex and figured he'd take his chances, hoping he'd talk Madison into staying. He's clueless about women.
The real question is, what mascara does Madison use??
I was thinking that last night. 😂
For sure it's waterproof!
Definitely not the same kind as Hannah b
M243423 Crusty??? I think they look so long and beautiful I want to kno what mascara she uses! I’m shocked to hear the complete opposite thing said about the same lashes
Erin S. I second that
But seriously how did Peter walk away from his convo with Victoria saying “this was the most real talk we ever had!” Has she brainwashed him??
Because he's so co-dependent, when he hears a sob story, he's hooked.
it's bc he needed to lock in that fantasy suite
Pussy is a magical thing
And how did he tell Hannah he is 100% falling in love blah blah when he knows he wants Madison??? I’m not liking him too much anymore.
Justifying to the world why he’s sleeping with her. He knows he doesn’t want her and exactly how it looks.
Victoria: tell me what you want, spell it out for me Peter
Peter: **asks question**
Also Victoria: I DoN’t kNoW **sobbing**
Powergirl02 LOL I know. I had such hope for a minute!
Powergirl02 always lol
Victoria is fickle, she don’t know which man in the Universe she wants! Bad choice Peter! Think about it please!
I don't think it was important for Madison to tell Peter she was a virgin, but it was crucial for her to tell him she was waiting for marriage early on so that Peter could decide if that is something he also wanted. You can't force someone to have the same values as you, and you shouldn't also change who you are to suit anybody.
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You also shouldn't give away all your requirements but rather sit back and see what that person's character actually is. Giving away the answer key taints the validity of a test
Keisha Puryear yeah I agree. I feel like she wanted to wait and feel him out and see where the relationship would go before brining up something that wasn’t relevant at the time. I think talking about how important her faith is to her in general was important early on, and she did that!
except she clearly stated that she didn’t expect her partner to have made the same decisions she had, or to have the same views on the topic as her. she was so respectful to peter and chose her words so carefully to make sure she wasn’t “forcing him” or controlling him.
She should have been honest with him from the very beginning. Waiting until the very end was so unfair to him! And incredibly selfish!
Madison be like "You cheated on me? when i specifically asked you not to?" -michael scott
Hannah T omg😂
That's exactly what I was thinking when I watched last night episode! 😂
I laughed out loud for real lmao
@@hailey7368 same 😂😂
like i really respect her beliefs and the high expectations she holds on herself and her future husband but she should’ve known going into this whole process that he would possibly be intimate with other women. she also claimed that she was “really clear with him” even tho she never specifically told him what she wanted and what her morals were so...
Awkward silence is a pretty big understatement. Also I think Madison was trying to avoid her virginity becoming her gimmick like Colton.
Can't expect a non Virgin to wait years before wedding night and be celibate. Stupid!
@@MsDesiree39Exactly, that's the conversation they needed to had, vs talking about him sleeping with the others.
Exactly!!!
I agree. Society make fun of virgin and that is all she would of been known for.
@@MsDesiree39 No it is not stupid. If you are truly in love with someone, you respect their boundaries. Plenty of people have done it and no one said anything about years. Not everyone wants to jump in bed with a guy after they say hi. Im glad she has standards
I’ve literally just been refreshing TH-cam until this came up
SAMEEEE
Crystal Morgans find some hobbies maybe?
Same. I stopped watching the episodes cause this is much better and this season SUCKS
Watching this is better then watching the actual show. Funny!!
That's sad
Peter breaking down in tears and crying while begging Madison not to leave was a hugeeee tell like he didn’t have that kinda passion or feelings with the other women. Team Madison all the way even though she says like and umm too much!
Lilly T but she hasn’t even told peter she loves him! That’s a big thing to expect from a boy where you can’t reciprocate his feelings I’m team peter being alone all the girls suck
Yesss! I agree totally
He begged her to leave?
plantec smiths no sorry ahah not to leave** i’ll fix it now thank you!
I Drink and I know things yeah all the girls aren’t that good this season....but if he was to end up with anyone i’d rather it be madison lol
I heard a theory that when Madison first auditioned to be on the show, it was for Colton's season, and honestly, I think they would have been a great match
We all said we wanted mature contestants so now there's a senior bachelor show.
This season has been a disappointment but thanks Bachelor Fantake for keeping us coming back to you!
the thing I take away from this is Peter likes sex, a lot to the point he kept one of the most toxic (from what we see) women in the running for his heart just to sleep with her. He could have just not slept with anyone and just got to know them personally for once, and learn from being sent home right after Fantasy suites.
He is doing what was done to him. From what I understand Hannah only slept with Peter- maybe maybe Jed? But like he got the boot right after. Meaning that there is so so much more to a relationship than Sex. If that was the only time I had with no cameras I’d talk about EVERYTHING - I’d rather do that than sleep with them pick one based off of that and find stuff out later idk like don’t tell multiple women you love them and don’t sleep with all of them. Just refrain from looking like a douche.
thestaceofspade that’s what I’m talking about. For me, imo if hometowns didn’t work why in the world would you sleep with that person and give the illusion at possibility of marriage? He’s coming across as cruel and he probably doesn’t even know that’s how he looks; a horndog with no tact
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Natalie Reed shawol for life!
@@ForeverFashionGirl21 they still had time to talk...it doesn't take that long to have sex lol
Vic F's nonchalant attitude to their date was how I approached every episode .. yea let's do this! 🙄
Now I know exactly why Hannah B didn't choose Peter. Hopefully someday with the right girl he actually has a personality.
Vonda MacKenzie Seriously! He just says cliche Bachelor words. Worst Bachelor ever! Obviously next to Juan Pablo.
@@tigerroselili5765 I could have sworn he was going to be great. He was so personable on her season. But all he is is a recording of what the producers tell him.
I group him with Ben Flajnick.🤢
@@sarasorensen2650 😂😂 Agree!
i don't understand sleeping with two other people when you're so seriously into one person. if it's a week until engagement time, you probably already know who you're picking, and therefore, the one person you want to be intimate with. maybe i'm just super monogamous, but when i'm into someone, i would feel too guilty to be with someone else that way. but other bachelors and bachelorettes do this too--it's a problem i have with the show, not just peter. but c'mon. even nick viall only slept with vanessa at fantasy suites.
thebooklife exactly what I thought
Perfectly said!
I'm the same way & I hadn't even thought about how the fantasy suites happen right before the engagement & how weird that is lol
exactly
thebooklife No you’re not wrong or anything, you’re speaking the truth
Yes, I'd rather watch 11 minutes of this then the entire 2 hour show. I learn what happens, I laugh hysterically and have more time to watch other reality shows. This is super funny!
If Peter was "confused" about what Madi was trying to say about "spending the night with the other women" & he really loved and/or cared about Madi, why would he not pull her aside to figure it all out before the Fantasy Suites???
Or she would have be clear in her communication like a grown adult.
This boy wants to have his cake and eat it too. Make a choice dude.
I'm wondering if Peter didn't feel so much pressure to have sex with them because of all the Windmill hype? I also feel like the producers deliberately made Madison's date last knowing conflict would arise with her. The producers forget real people with real feelings are involved.
This show is light years from the good old days of Trista and Ryan, it's become a mess, the producers have pushed the envelope very far.
Crystal Banchor They didn’t forget... they just don’t care. The only thing that matters is creating more drama!
Crystal Banchor Madison is definitely the best of the three choices. However, good girls usually finish last. If Peter let’s Madison go, it will be the biggest mistake of his life. There is deep, true love between them and Madison would be a loving, trusting wife. I guess Peter can’t see the ‘Forest’ for the other two trees! Sad, so sad...
This is the only TH-cam channel that I get alerts sent to my phone when a new video is uploaded 😂
I knew Victoria wasn't the best person, but when she said "or getting ready for bed!" That didn't sit well with me. The reason behind it seemed like it was to make Madison mad/upset. She had that mocking smile on, too. Disappointed but not surprised 😒
I have a feeling that some of her lines were fed to her from the producers. They just fit too well.
She likes pushing buttons.
I can't wait to see what Lauren says about that tweet mishap on Roses and Rose
Carrie Harlow she probably won’t mention it.
It was uneventful... she said she didn't think it was funny enough... but like there's spoilers that go along with what she was saying soooo
Idk I feel like Madison made it pretty damn clear to him what her expectations are in a relationship without making it forceful on him because she doesn’t want to be controlling when she talked to him after the rose ceremony
I agree!!!! She gave him a choice, and he showed her that he didn't love her enough to wait. He was selfish, and also used Hannah Ann and/or Victoria... which is also gross. It was soooo obvious that Madi was his #1 choice. He cried when she did! His face in the promo when he sees Victoria and Hannah Ann standing there said EVERYTHING. He knew he messed up. He knew neither one of those girls was wife material. He was left with the child and the train wreck.
The was the most HILARIOUS recap EVER 🤣🤣🌹
Maybe Peter should just pick Victoria so they can have an open relationship, continue sleeping with as many people as possible (bonus points if they're married), and both be happy!
BRUTAL LOL
Cliché,wanted to like this but you have 69 likes🤣very in line with your comment
It was psychologically abusive to put the women in the same room together AND to put Madi last. It was cruel to screw with people's heads like that.
No they signed up for it
Valerie Parker I agree!
This was a clear attempt to cause harm to Maddie, who simply wanted to honor God, and save herself (as a gift) to her forever husband.
And now, that we know she'd like to become a missionary, and help with children in 3rd world countries, she probably, also wanted to be a witness of her faith. ✝️🕊❤️
Having a pilot for a husband would be great. His job could go anywhere.
Just saying...
Christians know that no one can be perfect. 😔Humbly honoring and trusting in our God is a sign of maturity for all of God's creation.
Just saying...
K T If Madi wanted to "honor God" she wouldn't be on this show looking for a man of "faith" who dates 20 other women at once.
@@prettypleasevideo Your "religious" perspective made me want to gag. I can't see a free bird like Peter following this dull woman all over the world. He needs someone more like Hannah from the Bachelorette. Even his parents are opposite her parents. This does NOT make Madison superior to Peter. She needs to look up Luke P. They would fit nicely together.
@@karens170 Great remark! She also gets on my nerves constantly twisting her mouth around. And ALL of them can't make a coherent sentence without saying "LIKE" every other word. Yuk!
Omg your editing is hilarious!! Love it
If he wanted Madison to stay he should have thought about that before banging the other women. Period. I hope she does walk away from him because actions do speak louder than words.
To the nunnery with her then!
Why did she do this show?
Okay but what about the other women? What if sex is a big deal for them and they wanted to see the chemistry they have with peter before a proposal? It goes both ways, it’s a tough situation
Madison would be the best marriage women on Earth!!!! No baggage going into a relationship!!!
I can't believe Peter did not offer Madi his coat when she was cold at the hanger!
YES.
I heard they're not allowed to take their coat off
They’re not allowed to do that because it messes with continuity in filming!
The "This is why you're here!" Comment from Peter to Victoria has me dying😂😂😂
i'm so mad that it ended on a cliffhanger oh my GOD
This episode bothered me so bad. Literally nothing happened EXCEPT what we already saw in the previews... no rose ceremony?? Nothing resolved? Tired of these cliffhanger episodes and this freaking season haha.
That scar is going to haunt him 4ever
Peter decided to ask for forgiveness rather than permission... Not cool in my book
“So great...so great” 😭😭
Great recap as always! I almost did that Madison “um” compilation too lol.
Man Of Recaps there has to be a “like” and “literally” one too.
I think you said what was wrong with what Madison did really eloquently. There is NOTHING WRONG with waiting till marriage and NOTHING WRONG with wanting someone who has the same values as you. But she should've been upfront about it earlier, and she should've been more ready to deal with the possibility of him being with other women having signed up for this show. Yes, its weird to sleep with one person and then get engaged to someone else right after, but this show is NOT realistic, and never really has been- fantasy suites and their ~insinuation~ are present every season. And Yes we've seen Peter make some really terrible decisions (cough Victoria F. cough), but I think he acted fairly in this situation. They just seem incompatible.
I love how you always include clips from the Office 😂
“This is why you’re here” 😂
Let’s say Peter hadn’t slept with the other women and in the end chooses Madison; She still has her beliefs. Peter wants to travel and have adventures with his partner, and has shown he likes sex (obviously) and if it happens it the moment, it happens. They would travel, have an “in the moment” situation and he’d want to have sex, but she wouldn’t because of her beliefs and would (maybe) feel he wasn’t respecting that or that it was just a “in the moment” thing. I just don’t see it working either way because no one is thinking about what an actual relationship requires outside of a tv show (religion, children, living situations, etc.) Also I’m not saying Peter isn’t a respectful guy, I’m just saying things happen and situations can be misinterpreted. (We’re also not shown everything that happens behind the camera so just assumptions)
Exactly! Madison said she wants someone like her father and thats def not Peter
Well she’s not against sex, just sex before marriage, and considering they would be engaged in 6 days I’m sure he could wait.
Catrina J apparently not since he screwed the other 2 before Madison’s date
I would agree, but there's no gurantee that if he proposes they'll get married right away and an engagement is still not marriage so she would wait until the wedding night and who knows when that is.
If Peter likes Madison so much and has everything for her, there are a few things i wanna point out.
1. Why didnt he goes for the first fantasy suite with Madison? So that he can be romance and have a chance to take advantage with her?
2. Why not he lies to her instead and tell her that he didnt have any intimate relationship with others?
3. Or last, be honest and respect and obey her expectation and so he can win her heart?
Peter to Madi: I can't lose you.
I felt his sincerity there. I just didn't understand why he had to slept with other 2 women. He could have waited. 😭
I mean she didnt tell him before fantasy suite like she saving herself for marriage!!! If he knew he could have taken it more serious. Also he just took it as she will just be uncomfortable lol
@@3cookiess he knew what she meant though
He knew she didnt want him having sex with other women and then possibly proposing to her 5 days later. In real life, any normal person wouldn't understand that either. He should have been respectful to all 3 women regardless of their beliefs. You don't have to have sex in the fantasy suites. he definitely could have waited. But Madison also should have told him way sooner that she was saving herself. why couldnt she tell him this on her first one on one date?
If you’re not mature enough to use the word “sex” and discuss it openly with your partner, then you’re not ready to get married.
Peter to Victoria F. "I'm so glad we had this conversation...I feel so much better about us now ..."
Peter! … Absolutely NOTHING is ever resolved in these "conversations."
MOVIE HORIZON EXACTLY
Honestly, while she only said that she "might" not be able to get past the fact that he had slept with other women, it was easy to tell from the way that she hesitated so much that she wouldn't be. She did give him an ultimatum in my opinion, though I hate to agree with Victoria F, and he made the decision to sleep with Hannah Ann and Victoria (or just one but let's be real) and now she wants to bail. It is on him that he made the decision to sleep with them, and seeing Colton's season we know if he really wanted to he could've ended it when she said she wouldn't be able to move forward. He did what he wanted and slept with the other women and honestly I don't think that he cares enough about her to not have made that decision. You can do FS and not sleep with the person, a lot of people don't sleep with the person, look at Hannah and Tyler. There are other people that have come forward and said the same thing. Just saying
Tisha I feel like it wasn’t an ultimatum since she was clearly trying really hard to not push anything on him but YES on everything else!
Even if there was a chance he could talk her into marriage even after he slept with the others, if he really loved her why take that chance?
Becky Black his windmill reputation 🤷🏻♀️
@@danyelliebelly6964 exactly. I think everyone made such a meme and laugh about his windmill experience so he thought he would be off the hook
haileybrae95 and I honestly think if she had of told him I’m saving myself for marriage before he went on the FS he may have not had sex. 🤷🏻♀️
I agree she should've told him about saving herself for marriage sooner and that the conversation she had with him about her expectations wasn't communicated in the best way, but here's how I see it: if she was truly Peter's frontrunner in his mind and he saw himself picking her at the final rose ceremony, he shouldn't have slept with any of the other women. Period. Madison deserves so much better than that.
For Peter, having sex now seems to be more important than what happens later. Or maybe he thought he could talk his way out after having sex with the other two.
The 3 all deserve better than that. Peter is acting like he is test driving 3 cars.
I completely agree !
Peter is literally playing "Kiss, Marry, Hook up" with the top 3
I always look forward to the breakdown; (not the women’s breakdowns, the preview :-)
I have to agree. I think it's amazing that Madison is so proud of her faith and has high standards for herself. I just wish she hadn't been so afraid of sharing it with Peter sooner. Even if it meant he sent her home, then that would mean he's just not the man for her and that's okay. It's not wrong what she told him or even how she said it, it's WHEN she tells him. Literally in the 11th hour. I know she does give him a preview of how she feels but like in the video...she isn't exactly clear about it.
I'm not shaming her, and there's no shade here, only love. Just giving my perspective.
Is it just me or did Peter let Madison go real easy 💀💀💀
Jasmeen Dhaliwal that’s what I’m saying... I feel like if she was the one, he wouldn’t of let her go. For Pete sake, Colton jumped a damn fence when Cassie left. Cause like pleasssssse tell me that he really has no idea at this point and equally likes 3 women 🙄
Maddy his actions make me uncomfortable, especially when (in recent interviews) he has been saying he was decided on his final choice before week four?
Do you think the producers told her not to say anything about saving herself to him until fantasy suites?
Either that or she didn't want her personal business announced to the world if she didn't have to. I don't know why everyone gets to keep their sexual history to themselves unless they are a virgin. Then it's somehow everyone else's business. For all she knew, Peter could send her home earlier. I think he's pretty dumb, honestly. She doesn't drink, she told him how important her faith is and how she wants a spiritual leader in her home, etc. Her family is clearly very religious as well. Her dad mentioned how pure Madi is... How did Peter not see this coming? Peter doesn't ask any of the girls questions about themselves. I've never seen a Bachelor have such shallow/impersonal conversations. Ugh I'm just so over Peter lol
Nope at all. She was afraid to lose him, just saying...
Why would Madison save herself all this time to find a husband...on a reality show?
deadass lmao
I mean... I don't think that's the reason she chose to save herself for marriage
Maybe she didn’t expect to make it this far.
I mean it doesn’t matter that she went on reality TV or goes to Christian mingle to find a guy the point is she believes if a guy is worthy to be her husband he is willing to not chase temptation out of love for her and return she will give him her all and everlasting loyalty. Just because this is the bachelor doesn’t mean she couldn’t have found that it’s not like she judged for Peter not being a virgin and I think she has a point how can a guy get down on one knee and propose when 6 days ago he was sleeping around with other girls even if the bachelor is reality tv what happening in the end is very serious
@mahlaka, I'm pretty sure she knew about Peter and tge windmill so where does she get off thinking that she is so special that he would not be intimate with other women for her while not being upfront about her virginity? It's dumb
The comedy in this video is non stop! Omg I love it 😂
Omg I love the Victoria f home town edit 😂😂😂😂😂
I think it’s messed up that she waited for so long to tell him about how strongly her faith is and about saving herself. I don’t think peter truly saw how important the no sex with the other girls was...I think if she had told him she was saving herself it would have changed his look on it. 🤷🏻♀️ kind of also feel like if she had of been open from the beginning of the show she might not have made it to the end. I have nothing against her I just think that’s the reality of it.
Danyell Eee was totally thinking that too
I think that’s a major reason why she didn’t tbh. I feel like she was hoping that if they had a strong enough connection/relationship I’m the end, then it would all just work itself out
I saw an interview where Peter said it wouldn't have made a difference.
been waiting on this all day!
All hail Bachelor Fantake for another video ❤🙌 I say it every video but this community you've created is such a valuable part of my week😊
It truly isn’t an easy thing for her, specially seeing how they handled Colton’s virginity. I truly believe she tried to tell him sooner but telling someone privately and doing so on TV are two different things
What’s the difference between Madison asking peter not to have sex on a fantasy suite date and Luke P asking Hannah b?
Well luke p wouldn't go away when Hannah B told him to and Madison decided to leave on her own.
Luke said Hannah wouldn’t be a woman of faith if she had slept with the other men. It was very judgmental of her as a person. Maddison isn’t judging Peter, just explaining how she would react. I do think Maddison should have told him sooner though, and been clearer.
Here it is!!! Thanks for your predictions. I'm in the head of my league by analyzing the previews!
Outright spoilers
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Brilliant!!!
Damn it
i see what you did there
here is my theory! no spoilers because i actually don't know if its true but just what i think is going to happen..
So Madison comes to the rose ceremony but tells peter she is leaving after getting the rose. That's why we see the car drive away and peter seems upset about it. So it comes down to Hannah Ann and Victoria F but only one rose left. Peters mom is crying because she wants Madison to return but he doesn't know how that can happen. When it comes down to proposals Madison ends up coming back and that's why Chris is talking to peter saying we just found out. And why peter then doesn't know what to do. The season is unspoiled because he ends up going home to think about it. I think he will end up proposing to Hannah Ann though because he will think about the way Madison made him feel and decide he doesn't want to be with someone who would give him no options like she did.
I think Madison's issue is she's so young, she'd not had to have this conversation before.
This video is so funny I can’t😂😂
Watching this episode made me lose all respect for Peter
LMAOO!! I love your editing 😂😂 especially the one with Peter comforting Victoria lol.
Lmao I love your chanel so much. I don't dabble in any other bachelor channels. I wait so patiently for your videos
I think its odd we were all pissed at Luke P. for telling Hannah B that he didn't want her sleeping with the other guys and yet Madison does the EXACT SAME THING to Peter and everyone's like "Go Madison! she deserves so much better!"
Yeah & everyone's comparing their personalities as if Maddison didn't obviously get a better edit
@@clalyrics441 Yep. I think Madison got a good edit because A). Peter probably picks her and B). none of the contestants were particularly great this season.
@@emilyyoung2836 Yes, they had too many villains lmaoooo
Luke was NOT a virgin!!!!!!
Agree on that double standards
The intros always get me 😂😂😂
i completely get where madison is coming from but also it’s not like she didn’t know fantasy suites were an important part of the process before she went on the show. Peters also dating the two others and does have feelings for them so it isn’t fair for her to ask him not to explore that with them, she knew it was a strong possibility before she applied for the show 🤷🏼♀️
But not everyone has sex with multiple people in the fantasy suites. Lots of contestants either only had sex with the person they chose in the end, or they didn't have sex with anyone and used the fantasy suite to get to spend some off-camera time together. How is it fair for Peter to have sex with the other girls and then propose to her six days later? 6 days is magically going to change his feelings? I don't think so. It is so obvious Madi was his #1. He had no intention of being with Hannah Ann or Victoria. He just kept them around to have sex with them.... one last fling before settling down with Madi. It's sooo obvious. He is so fake with Victoria and Hannah. His tears when Madi was hurt were the only real moment of the whole night. So I think that's my problem with it. I think he knew 100% that Madi was his pick, but he chose to have sex with the other girl/s, anyways. It's gross.
@@bunny_0288 Agreed. Who the hell wants to get engaged to someone who had sex with someone else less than a week ago? The bachelor/ette can technically do whatever they want but they need to understand the consequences of doing so.
@@hailey7368 Thank you! And it's not like they are forced to have sex with every contestant. Yes, the show gives them the opportunity to spend the night together, but they are the ones that make the decision of what to do in that room. And those decisions have consequences. Nick V. talked about how sleeping with the other contestants caused lots of problems for previous Bachelors which is why he only slept with Vanessa. He didn't want to jeopardize the future of their relationship on a one night stand.
Plus, it's also really disrespectful to the people you sleep with and then send home! Peter basically used Victoria and/or Hannah Ann. There is no way he is still confused about his feelings this far in. His tears said everything.
@@bunny_0288 Exactly. He really had to sleep with BOTH of them and then claimed he couldn't lose her?? Sure, okay whatever you say Peter 🙄
BUT if he really loves her more than the rest why would he want to have sex with the other girls, it was just for the sex. One of them is cray cray, REALLY you want to have sex with the one you can't have a conversation with and is constantly whining?????
I think neither Madison nor Peter are totally in the wrong.
It's perfectly legitimate for Madison not to like the idea to possibly be purposed by someone who just slept with someone else a few days prior, especially if Peter has expressed that he feels more strongly about her. In real life, many of us, religious or not, wouldn't be totally okay with that idea.
But I also think that Peter (just like any other lead) has the prerogative of exploring what he thinks he needs to explore in the fantasy suites, including sex, if it gives him a better idea of who to choose and at this point, he doesn't owe a vow of fidelity to anyone.
I agree with Paulo u know what goes on why come on the show and wait that long first u had no business there saving ur self for marriage it's not Church show look in church for who u want come-on unfair only wanting the man to persue u now what will she give in to Peter if he now shed tears after her makes no sense find a church partner
THIS 🙌🏻
Madison should leave. She made it clear that she'd lose respect for herself if she didn't (bending her own rules and expectations). She told Peter what she wanted and he made a choice to risk his relationship with her to further the other two relationships. If he truly can't lose her he should have thought of that before he slept with the other women knowing full well that it risked his relationship with Madison.
Can’t wait for your season review especially after knowing the finale. I didn’t think Peter could be worse as a bachelor lol
I can confirm that bachelor fan take is very fluent in girl talk
Internal monologue zoom at 3:10 - yusss, so good.
I disagree with you. She didn’t need to tell him about her virginity until the fantasy suite. That should not be something you build a relationship on and she brought it up when it was pertinent to the relationship. Regardless of all that, her being a virgin has nothing to do with being uncomfortable with getting engaged to someone who slept with someone else less than a week earlier. Most people would not be okay with that.
Why do virgins need to share their sexual history right away, but non-virgins don't? It's such a double standard.
Sara D Society is becoming shameful to virgins, ironic because it used to be the other way around
Thank you for the laughs. I love your cleverness. 💕
I don’t think Madison thought she’d make it that far, she didn’t think it would ever come to that
Lol I’m not even watching it on tv anymore just your recaps✊🏾💪🏾 YOU’RE THE BEST!
We should get a second bachelor season. Mike ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
"you look so skinny" which in girl talk means "you look like a child"
WHO GAVE HIM THE GIRL CODE? I choked on my food
I love this recap 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Loved this recap! Your editing is hilarious and perfectly on point (Michael Scott!😂).
I’ve been waiting for this! So escotes!
I think he might not have slept with Victoria.
1. When they wake up the morning after, they talk a lot about "last night" and somehow it feels, that it was more about their conversation and emotional bond.
2. Victorias face, whenn Hannah Ann tells her about Madisons "ultimatum" is like "WHAT!!! So that's why he didn't sleep with me???" and her reaction is mush stronger. He slept with Hannah Ann in spite of the ultimatum, so, that gives her extra confidence and she is pretty calm. But Victoria goes balistic. It think if he had slept with her, she would be more cocky instead of angry.
3. When Peter and Madison talk he asks her, if she would walk away because of "something that happend this week with an other relationship of mine." - Singular
Maybe he knew at the last ceremony, M and HA are his final two, but didn't want to drag Kelsey on...
That was very calculated move from Madison, and it even escalates in the finale..She wanted to be the bachelorette soooo badly
Yay been waiting!!
That intro had me cackling. Love your videos!
The Michael Scott clip is just the best 😂 comedic perfection hah
I really really like your post. Thanks!
Look at how enthusiastic vic was.
The edit about Victoria F’s hometown date. It’s too much! 😂
HILARIOUS clips in between: "I'm the COOL mom." -Producers 🤣🤣🤣
Madison should've told Peter straight up from the beginning her personal convictions. Just the right thing to do.
I totally respect Madison for wanting to save herself for marriage but expecting him to refrain from how he expresses himself. She should have said, "if I'm the one I can't see how you'd even consider sleeping with other girls. If you love the three of us how are you going to suddenly pick one? and even if I'm the one will you be *able* to wait until marriage to have sex with me?" If he truly loves her he would. If he said no, she should have walked. Instead she hardly was straight forward and short of put this shaming spin on it. Also, I would love to stay in the fantasy suite with the final three but that doesn't automatically mean I had sex with them. If I was either on the bachelor or I was the bachelorette, I wouldn't want to have sex with anyone knowing I have to send two home. I don't necessarily believe in waiting til marriage but I do believe intimacy is special and I'd want to respect my own feelings and the consideration of others.
Also....hard to believe that she never heard about "windmill four times " peter at all before the show unless she was a bachelor nation newbie. This is something she should have brought up at least last week to him. Total producer stunt.
Here's my take on it: Not only should Madison not have gone on to the show due to Peter and her values not lining up (which was made obvious by the windmill fiasco), but she she should have told Peter about her values before hand. As someone who is saving sex for marriage as well, I mention that basically at the beginning. You avoid all this mess by just being real. I do think she did a better job at presenting her beliefs better than Luke P though (who also should not have been on the frickin show.) He shamed Hannah for having sex and basically said "you had sex and are now beneath me, but because I love you I'll let it slide, you heathen." Madison basically said "you can do what you want but if you do have sex that indicates that our values don't line up and I don't want to be in a relationship like that." What is very telling though is the fact that she said she has compromised because Peter is worth it. I've seen it happen many times before. A person with seemingly very strong faith starts to compromise in order to be with someone they like and ends up losing their faith or causing their significant other to start practicing that faith w/o any actual belief in it to keep them. Usually it ends up being both at the same time.
Now Peter, ...*sigh*...Dear Peter.
I do not like the "oh, it's the bachelor. That's what fantasy suites are for. He can have sex with all of them if he wants" excuse. There have been bachelors/bachelorettes before that did not have sex with anyone on the show other than the one person they chose at the end after the show. There have also been bachelors/bachelorettes that have not kissed many of the contestants. Peter, you could have waited until you picked the final person to have sex with them. The fact that he didnt really have any serious conversations with all THREE of the girls, especially Victoria, tells me he was so adamant about having a connection with all of them Because he just wanted to have sex. I don't believe that if you actually love someone you can be okay with having sex with another person. That goes for all of the girls. If Peter loved ALL 3 OF THEM like he said, he would not have had sex with any one of them out of respect for each girl. I agree with Madison when she said that it would make her uncomfortable to have Peter get down on one knee to propose 6 days after he had sex with someone else. Based off his decisions on the show, he is not ready for marriage at all.