But that doesn't make sense though! A dermatologist is a doctor and she legally can't call herself a nurse without being licensed. She's a dermatology nurse.
I was confused at first because a dermatologist is technically 'higher' than a nurse (in terms of schooling), BUT a dermatologist wouldn't know or be qualified to spew some of the stuff Victoria P was talking about.
Chris Harrison gaslighting all of us by saying to Peter, "Victoria really communicated tonight, I can see why you fell for her" p.s. Hilarious video, Fantake!
Chris harrison is full of shit and contributes to the mess as much as the producers. He said in a podcast Kelley wasnt invited cause she didnt play a big role in the storyline. And the girls who left night one who were invited did? He thinks the audience is stupid or something.
I so appreciated Kelsey talking about how Tammy was belittling people who actually have those conditions. It was so unfair for Victoria P and Tammy to throw that in her face
@@clalyrics441 so much so! I have ADHD and I battled with self acceptance of that. I wouldn't take my meds and things would spiral to a low point and I can't imagine if someone threw that in my face and accused me of just taking it recreationally (a felony btw) it could just add to that toxic sense of shame not to mention it forced Kelsey to disclose her medical conditions in front of a national audience because Victoria P, who "as a nurse" should know HIPAA enough to know you don't share other people's medical information like that, decided to tell the rest of the house. Gross all around. So proud of Kelsey for standing up for us 😊 it already carries such a heavy stigma.
@@paigec5017 Exactly, and there's no doubt people watching who do struggle with 'popping pills' and 'alcoholic tendencies' or whatever they said, and they really just stigmatized those conditions even further. It's like killing 3 birds with one stone. Very unprofessional of Victoria P like you mentioned, I hadn't even thought of that. Just toxic all the way through.
Sorry but I agree with Tammi about Kelsey possibly showing alcoholic tendencies. Don't get mad just because you got called out. Maybe people think who drink often have a hard time seeing Tammi and I saw.
Alayah came off looking so good, and I'm glad this showed how jealous the other girls were of her. I think they knew she was a front-runner and brought her down. I was also thinking, if Alayah did say to Victoria to act like they don't know each other, then I am guessing it's because she didn't want another Hannah B/Caelynn situation, which makes sense. She did not deserve all the hate she got, and she rose above it amazingly.
Also after this whole season I don't feel like we know any of the girls the way we knew Demi, Hannah B or Tayshia by the end of Colton's season. Also there were only two hot seats when last year we had four. So yeah, I'm not surprised none of them is the bachelorette.
@@solgabosi5716 exactly!! I feel like this season went by so fast but I can barely account for what.. happened. it felt like nothing happened bc there was just petty bs all the time and i don't know any of the girls.
The “almost the bachelorette” comment about Kelsey is SO true, because she got such a good edit this episode...like a bachelorette edit. But tbh I’m so glad it’ll be Clare lol
Madison should have just said no, or pulled him aside again, they talk and she and Peter realize now they have 2 very different sets of values. Producers probably (my guess only) pushed her into doing what she did for more drama. (and they need more footage for the show) Sad for all of them, this season has been disappointing and I do think it was overproduced.
In the preview it shows peters dad talking to Madison saying do you think you guys are compatible? hopefully she really thinks about this one because I don't see why she'd continue since she wants someone who's a religious type and as much as peter says he wish he was more religious I don't think he's going to get on her level
I agree that this season was overproduced. If the producers didn't force things (for example, maybe if Peter picked who went first in fantasy sweets) this would have gone really different
The rose petals falling from the rose Peter gave to Madison is not a good sign. My guess: the ending is determined on AFR- that’s why Chris said even Peter doesn’t know the ending yet.
I caught that, they must have been waiting a long time for the roses to fall apart lol - or major set fail - and agree a sign (maybe from God to Madison: this is going to fall apart. )
I remembered Becca's rose falling apart when Arie proposed, and look what later happened. But I agree that the ending might reveal itself during ATFR live
Is it possible He went see madison and she said theyd date for awhile before she decided if she could commit to him and shell give her answer on the finale show live?
Honestly Peter can be easily read and he obviously LIKES Madison more and I say like cause he is not in love with anybody at this point. Hes obviously picking her and she leaves before he can propose or whatever who cares at this point lol.
@@Paul-te8gi Guess she thought she could get over it but didn't? Also in the preview for next week Peter's dad asks her if she thinks theyre compatible maybe her talk with his dad makes her realize theyre not a good match so that could be it.
This tell all gave me a headache with all the yelling. I'm glad madison and Hannah Ann are final 2, cant wait for next week. I never really liked Kelsey but she actually seemed kinda sane during this tell all!
Karter Banger Got to give her credit. Kelsey handled the whole champagne debacle like a champ! Still didn’t make her the bachelorette but nice try... maybe in a few years.
Karter Banger She somehow managed a great comeback. She totally owned it. That takes maturity. The champagne bottle drinking party with the guests at the end was genius and imo completed her redemption. I think she’ll be back.
@@Ash_Queen16 She might not like the sex after Peter and she get married. He could be like one of those husbands who haven't had sex in 10 years. And then being unfaithful. Maybe Victoria F was terrible in bed. Virgin women wouldn't understand why sex isn't all that glamorous.
One thing that really surprised me was how I went from loving Tammy to being REALLY annoyed with her near the end and then having the exact opposite happen with ChanpagneGate Kelsey turning into one of the more likable ones
The “faaaast forward” bit was GOLD. This guy knows his comedy. Even the 1-2-3-5 repetition rule. (Yes, 5, not 4.) I couldn’t stop laughing at this one!
there were a lot of things that werent addressed which really irritated me so to start -Sydney lying about her high school experience and also lying about the fact that she brought up Alayah to Peter -why Victoria P lied about Alayah and being the one who started all the rumors about Kelsey -Victoria F was pretty much let off the hook completely about the cheating and the white marlins modeling thing -Tammy wasnt really held accountable either for the bullying that she did to Kelsey or Mckenna you could have just skipped this whole episode and it wouldnt have mattered
Completely. I feel like they just want to put a bandaid over this season and move on... Honestly, maybe that's the best thing to do. So sick of these girls. EXCEPT I don't think Victoria F should've been painted in such a bright light, she's awful.
House of Schenck she’s a dermatologists nurse meaning she works under the doctors. Also the clap back was meant to mean that since she in practically a skin doctor she knows nothing about addiction tendency’s? Just how I took it.
Katie As a nurse who went from LPN/LVN to RN you are simply demonstrating a lack of understanding regarding the basic function and education between the two. We all take the same pharmacology classes. An LPN still has to have a solid knowledge base on how medications interact in order to alert the MD. The difference is in the administration of IV medications. I know idiot RN’s and knowledgeable LPN’s. Stop sowing division and downplaying that woman’s accomplishment.
Ugh I was so rooting for Tammy at the beginning (I’m asian haha so it’s nice to see some diversity) but oh my god she’s SUCH a mean girl 😡 Kelsey deserves wayyy better and she was wayyyy out of line
Omg...they gave Victoria F. such a PASS! He asked her about the "homewrecker" allegations and she got to say simply (in effect) "I think its probably just somebody who doesn't like me"... while reportedly the producers had already vetted, sourced, and confirmed all the rumors long ago prompting them to "arrange" for Peter's ex-girlfriend to conveniently show up and give him a heads up. Yet, Chris Harrison just accepted that "bail out" and moved on. Mind you, despite all the episodes and even this tell-all, she never once out-and-out denied any of the allegations.
I’d have never lumped Lexi into that group because honestly, she didn’t do a damn thing all season. But her standing in support of Victoria F shows that she’s a piece of shit too lol
armnhc84 haha right!! I didn’t even remember her name until it was brought up. That’s how irrelevant she was. But seeing her feed into the petty drama ahaha. So pathetic
Ok so, Madison has every right the have her own beliefs but, if I had those same beliefs I would not be signing up for a show where I would be dating someone who is dating MANY other women. My other problem is she just accepted to rose so if she continues to say that she's not sure she can move forward then she SHOULD NOT have accepted the rose. He even asked her if she was "sure"
on Nick V’s podcast, he even compared it to how luke p told hannah b that he was incredibly drawn to her and wanted to meet her even though the show went against his morals but there’s no reason from madison... she even knew that peter is more casual about sex if she saw any part of hannah b’s season
Can we stop acting like sleeping with someone the night before you potentially dumb them is fine? Like that's literally the worst move you can make! I'll give my props to Sydney for answering with the most logical response on Madi's decision, but other than that she and Lexi are vipers. Kelsey really owned up to her mistakes and fallouts, that's growth that Tammy could learn about and put into practice. Victoria P really disappointed me this season and I'm living for these Savannah clapbacks. I guess she wanted to make up for loss or no screen time she received this season. Bring her on paradise! If I hear Kelley's name one more time I'm going to bang my head on the wall.
I agree with everything you said except fro the Kelley part.... What's wrong with Kelley? She's amazing, and it's a real shame they didn't let her go on for this. We all loved her, and producers decided to ignore that bc of beef they have with her. (aka her exposing the show for being total BS)
My sum up: - This WTA just displayed how awful and immature was this cast this season. Colton's girls were examples of maturity in comparison. - Trading cards: yes. Make it happen, Papa Chris! - 1:35 The face of someone who discovered that being in a romantic relationship isn't a mix of rom-com with porn. - 3:19 Descriptions are spot on. - The producers were idiots for not inviting Kelly. Jenna aka the one who brought Ashley P. wasn't there too. - Savannah and Shiann were awesome. Tammy, Sydney, Lexi and Victoria P. were awful once again. Mykenna is bonkers. Alayah is superficial and pageanty AF but didn't deserve the flack at all. - I fully apllaud choosing Clare for Bachelorette and the pivot they're making, but I was kind of team Kelsey. - Even if she's an evident pick for Paradise, Victoria Red Flag should have been grilled and was left of the hook way too easy. (Especially after what they did to Blake for much less in After Paradise. Double standards much?) - That Victoria F.'s blooper with the bug was her most genuine moment on the show.
I met Hannah Ann today and she was the sweetest!! she said she’s nervous for the live finale next week (idk what that means😬) either nervous to announce her engagement or nervous to see peter!! she treated me like a friend she was so nice ❤️
I think Hanna Ann’s audience perception has really grown this season. A lot of people hated her the first episode (for kind of no reason) and now I would say she’s maybe the most liked now
Kelly Harrison agreed! Almost all my initial impressions of the ladies have been completely swapped! Who I like at first I dislike now, and vice versa.
You can say what you want about these two, but Mykenna and Kelsey's support for each other is just beautiful. Especially regarding this season in general
Some might have gotten filler or botox. I thought Victoria p looked like she had gotten under eye filler or something like that. She already appeared to have lip and cheek filler on the show but who knows. The reality is that a lot of these girls get filler and botox so that they look their best. Ive noticed in the past that a lot end up getting plastic surgery after the show airs. New boobs etc. Ive noticed on Paradise theyll look different. Like Derek got his teeth fixed after his season woth Jojo.
They both leave him at the end. It appears that Madison has an awakening when meeting Peter's parents, and she may realize that they are not compatible in the long run. Peter's parents see this as well after there one-on-one conversation. Madison drops out due to not seeing herself with Peter for the rest of her life; Which then results in the scene we see with Peter crying and apologizing to a women who appears to be Madison from what we can see. Hannah Ann is informed that Peter went after Madison after she drops out, and decides to leave as well realizing that Peter was most likely going to pick Madison in the end anyways. This leaves Peter with 0 woman to choose, and left heart broken... Then we are left with the scene with Peter's mother-- I still think she is talking about Hannah Brown, and begs Peter to seek after her again knowing that Peter found his one true love all along. This is just a theory, let me know what you think.
Well, even if someone is portrayed as a villain on a TV show doesn't mean you should bully them. Even if they ARE actual bullies, you shouldn't be threatening them because then you're just as bad. It's a cycle.
I dislike tammy but she aint lying about Mykenna. The facial expressions were obviously done on purpose for camera time. You can't just forget theres a camera when the actual camera man is literally standing in front of you.
@@reaganhoyt5223 agreed to me the 2 of them talk with face expressions. Some wore then others. Could it have been more intense ... Sure cause they want their point across especially on camera since not much talking 😆
I'm really confused about Kelley, because if you go to Alayah's instagram you'll see a picture where Alayah, Kelsey and Deandra all appear to be wearing their outfits from WTA and Kelley is in the pic too, so..? Maybe she showed up at the afterparty or something, idk. It's definitely weird
I think it’s bullshit and it doesn’t make any sense. She was apart of the show for crying out loud. They should’ve invited her (if that’s the REAL reason)
THEORY: Chris said even Peter doesn't know the ending, like it's out of HIS hands. I say he wants Madison but she says she will only confirm if they will stay together after she watches all the episodes to see how he acted on the episodes
@@samanthadrozario7830 I don't think it was meant as an insult, it was more like calling out her lie, she was trying to justify her comments by saying she was a nurse, when in fact she was a dermatologist. Which I think it's weird over all, dermatologist is actually a physician, so why say you're a nurse to justify your "medical opinion" with that. Kelsey was right, she never said she was sober, for her to give her nurse medical opinion. It's all just weird. So the girl was like aren't you a dermatologist. I'm sure if someone was trying to justify something by saying I'm a cop, when in fact he's a detective, it would be called out to, it's all just weird.
Haha my wife thinks it's hilarious, (and refreshingly awesome) that you're some dude with a super good Bachelor TH-cam channel lol another great video, mate! 🤜💥🤛
Tammy seemed out of line last night. I think she just can't handle people who are emotional. But she didn't have to say all that stuff. All the girls are going too much
Same. She carried herself really well, and actually came across as more genuine than many of the other women lol. Not just at WTA but also all the interviews afterwards. Hope we see her again. She deserves another chance since Sydney, Victoria P and Lexi ruined this one.
Bianca Macias Welcome! He’s my favorite, absolutely. I also like Whit & Ry and PMO Productions/Daniel Miramontes. Fantake has the best sleuthing, analysis, editing, and thorough recaps, though
Theory: peters mom dad brother and brother’s girlfriend all follow kelly and she is the only woman from his season that they all follow. And maybe kelly and peter are now together? Hence why she didn’t show up at the tell all?!
You know what.. I hear you lol. I think she has some issues and needs to do some inner work and maybe therapy (no shame in that). But I dont think she deserves so much hate. I think it's sooo wrong for people to be jumping on the whole "breaking up marriages" thing because we have no definite proof and that can be a very hurtful and damaging thing to accuse someone of esp if it's not confirmed
What bothered me the most is Peter is so drawn to drama and not getting his way. Since both Hannah and Victoria were gracious enough to extend their evening to the night and Madison did not, it is likely Peter would choose Madison just out of sheer inability to conquer any mystery or obstacle. Just my opinion/observation
I haven’t watched all of the videos yet but Peter’s mom is talking about Madison in the crying scene and you can tell because Peter and his dad are wearing the same clothes they wore for her meet the parents date
The drama of the last rose losing petals and then hearing peter’s heartbeat racing had me SCREAMING. The rest of the episode sucked but that was television gold.
Bachelor trading cards... make it happen Chris Harrison
Bachelor Fantake we want the preview breakdown 😭
@@TheMopo199 it will be here before you know it! :)
Ooh, good idea!
No thanks
Can there be stats, like "Right reasons": 7/10, "Drama" 4.5/10, "Iconic moments" 6/10 and so on so you can battle them?
Omg Victoria F “decided to wear her red flag as an outfit” LMAO
That had me dying lmao
Gold 😂
“Decided to wear her red flag 🚩 as an outfit” I died 🤣
Same 🤣🤣🤣
Kudos to Savannah for standing up for her friend. They dont give the normal ones any screen time do they! Hope to see her in paradise!
She is my favorite one of the bunch. ❣
Nina Lou that’s why Kelley wasn’t even invited to the show...
Steve Nguyen wrong, in fact she must probably the most normal of all of them. Yet another reason why she wasn’t asked to show up to the Tell All.
The 'From a medical standpoint' part had me dead. Props to Savannah for doing some digging and firing those shots. 😂👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
But that doesn't make sense though! A dermatologist is a doctor and she legally can't call herself a nurse without being licensed. She's a dermatology nurse.
@@jwho4273 She's a Dermatologist
@@johnnythunder196 No, she's a nurse. She works in a dermatologists office. She is not a medical doctor (dermatologist).
I was confused at first because a dermatologist is technically 'higher' than a nurse (in terms of schooling), BUT a dermatologist wouldn't know or be qualified to spew some of the stuff Victoria P was talking about.
@@johnnythunder196 a dermatologist is a medical doctor. If she were a doctor she'd def say it. She's a nurse who works in a dermatology office.
Chris Harrison gaslighting all of us by saying to Peter, "Victoria really communicated tonight, I can see why you fell for her"
p.s. Hilarious video, Fantake!
This season was SO fake!! I only hope The Bachelorette will be better.
Maybe Chris Harrison is being sarcastic but not noticeable enough to lose his job?
It was so obvious that Peter acted so cold and distant around Victoria F now knowing wtf she did with the married men.
Chris harrison is full of shit and contributes to the mess as much as the producers. He said in a podcast Kelley wasnt invited cause she didnt play a big role in the storyline. And the girls who left night one who were invited did? He thinks the audience is stupid or something.
@@rubiirae he overall looks super miserable and trying to hide it.
Jed should’ve just waited and gone on Listen to Your Heart omg.
Deadass!
Maybe he will be 😆😆
it feels like they created that show just bc of jed lol. i heard that he denied going on it, but idr where i saw that from!
I feel like the producers were talking one day like, "can't believe Jed came on here to promote his music caree-- WAAAAAAAAIT!"
Sanskriti Deva dude that made me laugh 😂
Chris Harrison was the worst "moderator" ever! He just let them talk over each other in a free-for-all and sat back in his chair in delight.
It's good tv. Of course he's not gonna cut it short.
He's done lmao
Be honest. Did we learn ANYTHING new from this much anticipated “tell-all”? Did Victoria F. finally “open up”? No and No.
Terrible moderator. Excellent executive producer.
I so appreciated Kelsey talking about how Tammy was belittling people who actually have those conditions. It was so unfair for Victoria P and Tammy to throw that in her face
Right!! Extremely disrespectful of them.
@@clalyrics441 so much so! I have ADHD and I battled with self acceptance of that. I wouldn't take my meds and things would spiral to a low point and I can't imagine if someone threw that in my face and accused me of just taking it recreationally (a felony btw) it could just add to that toxic sense of shame not to mention it forced Kelsey to disclose her medical conditions in front of a national audience because Victoria P, who "as a nurse" should know HIPAA enough to know you don't share other people's medical information like that, decided to tell the rest of the house. Gross all around. So proud of Kelsey for standing up for us 😊 it already carries such a heavy stigma.
@@paigec5017 Exactly, and there's no doubt people watching who do struggle with 'popping pills' and 'alcoholic tendencies' or whatever they said, and they really just stigmatized those conditions even further. It's like killing 3 birds with one stone. Very unprofessional of Victoria P like you mentioned, I hadn't even thought of that. Just toxic all the way through.
Sorry but I agree with Tammi about Kelsey possibly showing alcoholic tendencies. Don't get mad just because you got called out. Maybe people think who drink often have a hard time seeing Tammi and I saw.
It's not belittling. She wasn't be made fun of.
Alayah came off looking so good, and I'm glad this showed how jealous the other girls were of her. I think they knew she was a front-runner and brought her down. I was also thinking, if Alayah did say to Victoria to act like they don't know each other, then I am guessing it's because she didn't want another Hannah B/Caelynn situation, which makes sense. She did not deserve all the hate she got, and she rose above it amazingly.
agreed
*Alayah
@@paulojrneto whoops! thank you! fixed it now
exactly! alayah was def my favorite woman there
For sure. Can't believe Sydney was so disrespectful to her.
There was a lot of yelling but this was one of the least interesting WTA ever. Probably cause 99% of them are unlikable.
Also after this whole season I don't feel like we know any of the girls the way we knew Demi, Hannah B or Tayshia by the end of Colton's season. Also there were only two hot seats when last year we had four. So yeah, I'm not surprised none of them is the bachelorette.
Exactly!! If we could have heard half of it, it would have been more interesting
@@solgabosi5716 exactly!! I feel like this season went by so fast but I can barely account for what.. happened. it felt like nothing happened bc there was just petty bs all the time and i don't know any of the girls.
Nina Lou I didn’t even remember half of them.
@@che8527 Me too, I remember OTHER seasons better.
the scene from the office where michael says “there has been a murder in savannah” was so perfectly placed it had me ROLLLLINNGFG
Right?? 🤣🤣🤣
I busted out laughing 😂too good
After an hour and a half of watching these girls bully each other I learned that bullying is bad!
Preach!!!
right lmao
What an unattractive bunch of harpies.
Sorry, what bullying??? I feel it's more like the truth hurts and opinions are just being expressed.
Lmaoooo!!! 🤣🤣
The “almost the bachelorette” comment about Kelsey is SO true, because she got such a good edit this episode...like a bachelorette edit. But tbh I’m so glad it’ll be Clare lol
Well this didn’t age well 😂😭
@@Suki-xu9xs lmao so true!! at least we got tayshia❤️
I never drink wine, but my god after watching the women go back and forth this season I may reconsider.
Come to the dark side, I have a spare glass
You might want to try something stronger 😂🥃
Madison should have just said no, or pulled him aside again, they talk and she and Peter realize now they have 2 very different sets of values. Producers probably (my guess only) pushed her into doing what she did for more drama. (and they need more footage for the show) Sad for all of them, this season has been disappointing and I do think it was overproduced.
In the preview it shows peters dad talking to Madison saying do you think you guys are compatible? hopefully she really thinks about this one because I don't see why she'd continue since she wants someone who's a religious type and as much as peter says he wish he was more religious I don't think he's going to get on her level
needs a church boy...lol...
I agree that this season was overproduced. If the producers didn't force things (for example, maybe if Peter picked who went first in fantasy sweets) this would have gone really different
"From a medical standpoint, I'm a nurse" - 'from a medical standpoint, you're a dermatologist." BURN. That one must have hurt. 👏👏
It doesn't make any sense though. A dermatologist is a medical doctor so she called her a doctor.
@@jwho4273 Yeah. This bothered me lol. She's a nurse and got called a doctor... Not really a burn and doesn't make sense...
Probably meant she works for a dermatologist
Just shows how Savanah doesn't know much
She works for a dermatologist as a nurse, still a nurse.
The rose petals falling from the rose Peter gave to Madison is not a good sign. My guess: the ending is determined on AFR- that’s why Chris said even Peter doesn’t know the ending yet.
I caught that, they must have been waiting a long time for the roses to fall apart lol - or major set fail - and agree a sign (maybe from God to Madison: this is going to fall apart. )
Powergirl02 I noticed that too. Definitely a sign
I remembered Becca's rose falling apart when Arie proposed, and look what later happened. But I agree that the ending might reveal itself during ATFR live
Daisy Orozco lol such foreshadowing
Is it possible He went see madison and she said theyd date for awhile before she decided if she could commit to him and shell give her answer on the finale show live?
Honestly Peter can be easily read and he obviously LIKES Madison more and I say like cause he is not in love with anybody at this point. Hes obviously picking her and she leaves before he can propose or whatever who cares at this point lol.
@@Paul-te8gi Guess she thought she could get over it but didn't? Also in the preview for next week Peter's dad asks her if she thinks theyre compatible maybe her talk with his dad makes her realize theyre not a good match so that could be it.
Wow I’m suddenly Savannah’s #1 fan. Called out everyone on their bs.
"I DONT KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT!!"
Classic.
This tell all gave me a headache with all the yelling. I'm glad madison and Hannah Ann are final 2, cant wait for next week. I never really liked Kelsey but she actually seemed kinda sane during this tell all!
Karter Banger Got to give her credit. Kelsey handled the whole champagne debacle like a champ! Still didn’t make her the bachelorette but nice try... maybe in a few years.
@@angelaraber Agreed 100%!! maybe she trying real hard to get a spot on BIP and not be labeled one of the crazy ones.
Karter Banger She somehow managed a great comeback. She totally owned it. That takes maturity. The champagne bottle drinking party with the guests at the end was genius and imo completed her redemption. I think she’ll be back.
@@angelaraber yeah I totally agree
Victoria P calling herself “weird” is the worst way of trying to save herself ever
1. Lexi is a snail
2. Sydney and Vic P are bullies
3. Tammy is the worst
4. 100% won't be watching paradise if VF is on it.
Madison may be a lesbian.
I hoped maybe Sydney grew a bit in the meantime since filming ended... But noooo... Still sticking to her guns and being the same old bully !
@@partylikeitsyourbirthday..6494 I highly doubt that
@@Ash_Queen16 She might not like the sex after Peter and she get married.
He could be like one of those husbands who haven't had sex in 10 years. And then being unfaithful. Maybe Victoria F was terrible in bed. Virgin women wouldn't understand why sex isn't all that glamorous.
So freacking accurate, I completely agree 👏
One thing that really surprised me was how I went from loving Tammy to being REALLY annoyed with her near the end and then having the exact opposite happen with ChanpagneGate Kelsey turning into one of the more likable ones
right!!!! tbh almost all of my initial reactions got turned upside down
I liked Victoria F and Tammy at first, and now I can't stand them anymore!
The “faaaast forward” bit was GOLD. This guy knows his comedy. Even the 1-2-3-5 repetition rule. (Yes, 5, not 4.) I couldn’t stop laughing at this one!
there were a lot of things that werent addressed which really irritated me so to start
-Sydney lying about her high school experience and also lying about the fact that she brought up Alayah to Peter
-why Victoria P lied about Alayah and being the one who started all the rumors about Kelsey
-Victoria F was pretty much let off the hook completely about the cheating and the white marlins modeling thing
-Tammy wasnt really held accountable either for the bullying that she did to Kelsey or Mckenna
you could have just skipped this whole episode and it wouldnt have mattered
Completely. I feel like they just want to put a bandaid over this season and move on... Honestly, maybe that's the best thing to do. So sick of these girls. EXCEPT I don't think Victoria F should've been painted in such a bright light, she's awful.
“You’re a dermatologist.” Automatically makes it to the top 10 best clapback list. No questions. No ifs, ands, or buts. Such a perfect moment
But a dermatologist is a doctor. She's a nurse and the "clapback" is calling her a doctor. That doesn't make any sense.
House of Schenck she’s a dermatologists nurse meaning she works under the doctors. Also the clap back was meant to mean that since she in practically a skin doctor she knows nothing about addiction tendency’s? Just how I took it.
Mackenzie Miller also she’s an LPN. acting like she’s an RN with so much experience in medications 🙄
Katie exactly!
Katie As a nurse who went from LPN/LVN to RN you are simply demonstrating a lack of understanding regarding the basic function and education between the two. We all take the same pharmacology classes. An LPN still has to have a solid knowledge base on how medications interact in order to alert the MD. The difference is in the administration of IV medications. I know idiot RN’s and knowledgeable LPN’s. Stop sowing division and downplaying that woman’s accomplishment.
Dang I really wanted Kelley to be there. She would have called everything how it really is
When barb is crying to peter telling him not to let her go, they’re wearing the same shirts as the day Madison meets peters parents 🧐
Ahhhhhhhhhh
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Nice catch!!!!!
Ugh I was so rooting for Tammy at the beginning (I’m asian haha so it’s nice to see some diversity) but oh my god she’s SUCH a mean girl 😡 Kelsey deserves wayyy better and she was wayyyy out of line
fobpatdrkcgp I feel your pain. I’m Canadian and Mykenna was an embarrassment. 🥺
Same! She actually seemed pretty silly and cool in the beginning.
Omg...they gave Victoria F. such a PASS! He asked her about the "homewrecker" allegations and she got to say simply (in effect) "I think its probably just somebody who doesn't like me"... while reportedly the producers had already vetted, sourced, and confirmed all the rumors long ago prompting them to "arrange" for Peter's ex-girlfriend to conveniently show up and give him a heads up. Yet, Chris Harrison just accepted that "bail out" and moved on. Mind you, despite all the episodes and even this tell-all, she never once out-and-out denied any of the allegations.
I know!!! It makes me soooo freaking angry
Why did she say no while nodding yes? 🤔
Your introductions of the women at the beginning were hilarious 😂😂
“Boy does this look like a happy group of women.”
My thoughts exactly!!
This was such an awful group of women Hahahaha. Sydney, Victoria P, Tammy, red car girl - they need help
yep
I’d have never lumped Lexi into that group because honestly, she didn’t do a damn thing all season. But her standing in support of Victoria F shows that she’s a piece of shit too lol
armnhc84 haha right!! I didn’t even remember her name until it was brought up. That’s how irrelevant she was. But seeing her feed into the petty drama ahaha. So pathetic
I absolutely love your use of the Community clip in the opening. A very accurate representation of this WTA.......
Alayah must have struck a nerve with these women she did nothing wrong jealousy at its finest
Ok so, Madison has every right the have her own beliefs but, if I had those same beliefs I would not be signing up for a show where I would be dating someone who is dating MANY other women. My other problem is she just accepted to rose so if she continues to say that she's not sure she can move forward then she SHOULD NOT have accepted the rose. He even asked her if she was "sure"
Rochelle Eidt Especially when the whole world knows what happened between Peter and Hannah B. in the windmill. He’s always going to the windmill guy!
on Nick V’s podcast, he even compared it to how luke p told hannah b that he was incredibly drawn to her and wanted to meet her even though the show went against his morals but there’s no reason from madison... she even knew that peter is more casual about sex if she saw any part of hannah b’s season
Rochelle Eidt what if Madi thought Tyler would be the bachelor?
@@marinaspalate but when she realized it wasn't tyler and that Peter doesn't share her core values why would she stay??
marina n Pretty sure that they find out long before they step out of the limo.
Your choices of hilarious movie and TV references as analogies for The Bachelor continue to be a highlight of my Tuesdays. Thanks, Fantake!
Savannah is an absolute queen who deserved way more screen time.
They WENT sooooo easy on Victoria F. I was sooo annoyed. Like its gross
me too i almost barfed
I know, are you kidding me?
The ad at Chris Harrison’s “We’re gonna take a quick break”
Can we stop acting like sleeping with someone the night before you potentially dumb them is fine? Like that's literally the worst move you can make!
I'll give my props to Sydney for answering with the most logical response on Madi's decision, but other than that she and Lexi are vipers.
Kelsey really owned up to her mistakes and fallouts, that's growth that Tammy could learn about and put into practice.
Victoria P really disappointed me this season and I'm living for these Savannah clapbacks. I guess she wanted to make up for loss or no screen time she received this season. Bring her on paradise!
If I hear Kelley's name one more time I'm going to bang my head on the wall.
Ashley Scott i feel like kelley is overrated
I agree with everything you said except fro the Kelley part.... What's wrong with Kelley? She's amazing, and it's a real shame they didn't let her go on for this. We all loved her, and producers decided to ignore that bc of beef they have with her. (aka her exposing the show for being total BS)
My sum up:
- This WTA just displayed how awful and immature was this cast this season. Colton's girls were examples of maturity in comparison.
- Trading cards: yes. Make it happen, Papa Chris!
- 1:35 The face of someone who discovered that being in a romantic relationship isn't a mix of rom-com with porn.
- 3:19 Descriptions are spot on.
- The producers were idiots for not inviting Kelly. Jenna aka the one who brought Ashley P. wasn't there too.
- Savannah and Shiann were awesome. Tammy, Sydney, Lexi and Victoria P. were awful once again. Mykenna is bonkers. Alayah is superficial and pageanty AF but didn't deserve the flack at all.
- I fully apllaud choosing Clare for Bachelorette and the pivot they're making, but I was kind of team Kelsey.
- Even if she's an evident pick for Paradise, Victoria Red Flag should have been grilled and was left of the hook way too easy. (Especially after what they did to Blake for much less in After Paradise. Double standards much?)
- That Victoria F.'s blooper with the bug was her most genuine moment on the show.
Paulo Neto When Mykenna was yelling and pointing her finger at Tammy, she looked just like that meme with the woman yelling at the white cat! 😂
omg i think too that the bug brought out more emotion from Victoria 😂
The women on coltons season were like Harvard professors compared to these women lmao 😅
Great point about the double standard in humiliating Blake for behavior far less objectionable that being a serial homewrecker.
FINALLY !! i’ve been waiting all day for this notification :)
Same!
"decided to wear her red flag as an outfit today" deserves an award.
DECIDED TO WEAR HER RED FLAG AS AN OUTFIT
I met Hannah Ann today and she was the sweetest!! she said she’s nervous for the live finale next week (idk what that means😬) either nervous to announce her engagement or nervous to see peter!! she treated me like a friend she was so nice ❤️
I think Hanna Ann’s audience perception has really grown this season. A lot of people hated her the first episode (for kind of no reason) and now I would say she’s maybe the most liked now
Kelly Harrison agreed! Almost all my initial impressions of the ladies have been completely swapped! Who I like at first I dislike now, and vice versa.
I still don’t like her. I feel like she had a lot of work done and looks fake.
@@marinaspalate that's so weird you think that. I find her the most natural looking out of all the girls
marina n her face looks completely natural to me!
chris harrison really made those faces we were all making at home
You can say what you want about these two, but Mykenna and Kelsey's support for each other is just beautiful.
Especially regarding this season in general
Is it just me, or do most of the women look different in the tell all compared to the episodes.
Different lighting. Lighting can easily make you look different.
Some might have gotten filler or botox. I thought Victoria p looked like she had gotten under eye filler or something like that. She already appeared to have lip and cheek filler on the show but who knows. The reality is that a lot of these girls get filler and botox so that they look their best. Ive noticed in the past that a lot end up getting plastic surgery after the show airs. New boobs etc. Ive noticed on Paradise theyll look different. Like Derek got his teeth fixed after his season woth Jojo.
“I feel like I’ve lost my brain” could be the tagline for this entire season.
i wait on pins and needles for these recaps and preview breakdowns ... thank u notifications
if someone sings mr right girl on listen to your heart im going to riot
They both leave him at the end. It appears that Madison has an awakening when meeting Peter's parents, and she may realize that they are not compatible in the long run. Peter's parents see this as well after there one-on-one conversation. Madison drops out due to not seeing herself with Peter for the rest of her life; Which then results in the scene we see with Peter crying and apologizing to a women who appears to be Madison from what we can see. Hannah Ann is informed that Peter went after Madison after she drops out, and decides to leave as well realizing that Peter was most likely going to pick Madison in the end anyways. This leaves Peter with 0 woman to choose, and left heart broken... Then we are left with the scene with Peter's mother-- I still think she is talking about Hannah Brown, and begs Peter to seek after her again knowing that Peter found his one true love all along. This is just a theory, let me know what you think.
Please never stop making videos😂😂😂😂 BEST EDITING EVERRRRR
Thanks for fast-forwarding through the Bachelor party and bloopers 🙂
peter finally got laid with victoria so he finally got rid off her you can really see how much he lets his lower head decide throughout the season
labadolable Pretty sure he got Hannah in the shower as well.
The producers portray caricatures of these women and cast them as villains and then they act appalled when people say mean things about them online.
Sure but comments about their race and threats of violence is going way too far.
Well, even if someone is portrayed as a villain on a TV show doesn't mean you should bully them. Even if they ARE actual bullies, you shouldn't be threatening them because then you're just as bad. It's a cycle.
Two wrongs don't a right make.
I dislike tammy but she aint lying about Mykenna. The facial expressions were obviously done on purpose for camera time. You can't just forget theres a camera when the actual camera man is literally standing in front of you.
Nina Lou omg yes. And the tongue thing she kept doing! Surprised they didn’t bring it up
@@marinaspalate yep. She got what she wanted tho. Heard shes gonna be on paradise.
I think Tammy made a lot of faces and did stuff for camera time too though, so it's a weird thing for Tammy to call out
@@reaganhoyt5223 agreed to me the 2 of them talk with face expressions. Some wore then others. Could it have been more intense ... Sure cause they want their point across especially on camera since not much talking 😆
I'm really confused about Kelley, because if you go to Alayah's instagram you'll see a picture where Alayah, Kelsey and Deandra all appear to be wearing their outfits from WTA and Kelley is in the pic too, so..? Maybe she showed up at the afterparty or something, idk. It's definitely weird
Cherry-min Kelley said she wasn’t invited but she was in LA for another reason during the WTA.
I think it’s bullshit and it doesn’t make any sense. She was apart of the show for crying out loud. They should’ve invited her (if that’s the REAL reason)
It was her birthday weekend so she went to LA to celebrate with her bachelor friends
@@letsdohairandmakeup aw thats sweet
THEORY: Chris said even Peter doesn't know the ending, like it's out of HIS hands. I say he wants Madison but she says she will only confirm if they will stay together after she watches all the episodes to see how he acted on the episodes
I was also thinking that Maddison tells him "I"ll THINK about it"
@Dana Clam true, but someone somewhere must have guessed it right???.... I just got to know!! Haha
Savannah was the MVP in this
Smh they should have stayed on Victoria more
If Savannah isn't on Paradise, the producers will have missed out on a huge opportunity. Her sass can only make BIP better.
CrazyAndAHalf what about jasmine nguyen she be fitting well in bachelor in paradise.
Christina Nguyen she’s with Alexa
Don’t ever stop making videos for us reality tv obsessed peeps, please and thank you ☺️
You're a Dermatologist. Lol I died🤣
LegoBeast it’s literally a compliment that makes no fucking sense
Lmao, I wish she landed the joke better.. It takes yearsss of education to become a dermatologist.
@@samanthadrozario7830 I don't think it was meant as an insult, it was more like calling out her lie, she was trying to justify her comments by saying she was a nurse, when in fact she was a dermatologist. Which I think it's weird over all, dermatologist is actually a physician, so why say you're a nurse to justify your "medical opinion" with that. Kelsey was right, she never said she was sober, for her to give her nurse medical opinion. It's all just weird. So the girl was like aren't you a dermatologist. I'm sure if someone was trying to justify something by saying I'm a cop, when in fact he's a detective, it would be called out to, it's all just weird.
It's literally the dumbest comment someone said on the whole stupid show.
I think the dumbest part was Victoria P. getting yet, another pass on addressing the start of the pill popping rumours😒
Lol at Tammy trying to move the heat back to Kelsey when she was on fire
Haha my wife thinks it's hilarious, (and refreshingly awesome) that you're some dude with a super good Bachelor TH-cam channel lol another great video, mate!
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Tammy seemed out of line last night.
I think she just can't handle people who are emotional. But she didn't have to say all that stuff.
All the girls are going too much
Yesssssss FINALLY, watching from South Africa at 23:00 😁😁😁
Dang that's awesome, what's the weather like now?
Your introductions are gold😂😂
These edits though had me DYING 😂👏🏼
I love how in detail and the way you explain everything!
i like Alayah even more. I think she would have made a great bachelorette if she’d gotten further.
Same. She carried herself really well, and actually came across as more genuine than many of the other women lol. Not just at WTA but also all the interviews afterwards. Hope we see her again. She deserves another chance since Sydney, Victoria P and Lexi ruined this one.
I strongly agree.
Shouldn't even matter how far. I get it the norm. But they're going out of the norm anyhow ... So i agree
My mom calls it my “princess voice”. No. Fuck. No.
Just discovered this channel and omg, I’m dying of laughter 😂
Bianca Macias Welcome! He’s my favorite, absolutely. I also like Whit & Ry and PMO Productions/Daniel Miramontes. Fantake has the best sleuthing, analysis, editing, and thorough recaps, though
It wasn’t a heart pounding sound effect I believe it was just a mic being pressed up against madi or peter’s heart when they were hugging😂
Yeah I think so too, it sounded real at least
I too think the heartbeats where genuine and wasn't just a sound effect that was added in. The producers definitely turned the sound up, though
And he put snot all over Madisons shoulder!! GROSS!!
“Decided to wear her red flag as an outfit today” LOL!!
I love your Tell All recaps solely for the names you give them!
This is the best edit you've ever done 😂😂😂😂😂 the fairy oddparents clip killed me
During the bullying segment I loved Sydney’s fake ass crying and trying to act so important
You are the best at doing RECAP!
Theory: peters mom dad brother and brother’s girlfriend all follow kelly and she is the only woman from his season that they all follow. And maybe kelly and peter are now together? Hence why she didn’t show up at the tell all?!
Can we just mentioned and appreciate how Bachelor Fantake lead up perfectly to the video advertisement and started again perfectly
I might be the only person who likes Victoria F, but I really do
You know what.. I hear you lol. I think she has some issues and needs to do some inner work and maybe therapy (no shame in that). But I dont think she deserves so much hate. I think it's sooo wrong for people to be jumping on the whole "breaking up marriages" thing because we have no definite proof and that can be a very hurtful and damaging thing to accuse someone of esp if it's not confirmed
@@verov9234 and especially because the only person who can break up a marriage is the person ACTUALLY MARRIED
@@breellitos Thank you! I feel like the show is acting like this is worse than cheating.
BACHELOR TRADING CARDS OH MY GOD SOMEONE GET ON THIS RIGHT MEOW.
meow
What bothered me the most is Peter is so drawn to drama and not getting his way. Since both Hannah and Victoria were gracious enough to extend their evening to the night and Madison did not, it is likely Peter would choose Madison just out of sheer inability to conquer any mystery or obstacle. Just my opinion/observation
Wow, I didn't even think about that. Maybe if every girl would've said 'no' he'd end up with Victoria F, the biggest challenge 🙄
I’m glad u noticed the heart pounding cause I was like “ am I just hearing this “ lol
I haven’t watched all of the videos yet but Peter’s mom is talking about Madison in the crying scene and you can tell because Peter and his dad are wearing the same clothes they wore for her meet the parents date
Unless Hannah meets his parents first and then the Mom cries about Hannah after having met Madison again. They do like to play with clips.
Holy crap, I was right!
YES! Trading cards - DO IT!!!! (Stats on the back - then also some sort of show tie in/activity for when former contestants get together).
Breakdown of the tell all: Savannah making sure everyone KNOWS that she would have done great in the other women’s places
Training cards lmaooooo low key yess tho
Loved the video! I always laugh so hard at the cutaways. I super enjoyed that red flag animation though. Super accurate
tammy i'm so disappointed in u LOL.
you're asian. you're representing asian women. YOU CALLED ANOTHER LADY A "BAFOON".
NO.
The drama of the last rose losing petals and then hearing peter’s heartbeat racing had me SCREAMING. The rest of the episode sucked but that was television gold.
Every Tuesday and Wednesday I look forward to your videos 💕👏
Dude your hilarious. I love your commentary
i live for kelsey like what a queen
Okay but when you were concerned about the heart beating thing I died😂😂😂😂😂