I survived another night. Last night was worse than the previous couple of nights, definitely thought of using a little around 5am, after pacing and doing pushups all night. Today is Day 5! 👊
@@StrongKeithJ I appreciate you man! How do you manage your time for the gym with family/work life? I think a gym routine would be extremely beneficial for me at this point.
@AkiraSudoko I go to the gym early in the AM. Like 5:45-6:45. Go home, drop kids off at school and go to work. I'm usually home between 4-5. And that's family time, chores, homework, getting ready for the next day, marriage time. Hard to juggle sometimes, but what else am I going to do besides try. You know?
Since we were discussing weight. In my dark days of things going wrong, depression with ST, and using 20-30g of kratom, eating only cookies and sweet stuff and maybe once in 3 days I would force myself to make sandwiches or scrambled eggs or potatoes. I am 6ft 6, and I weighted 145 pounds, at the time it didnt even seem like a problem to me. Had very low appetite, the effort of cooking/prepping food seemed unnecessary. Now I eat better, workout 3 times a week, still use kratom, tapering off, now about 15g. I weight 165 pounds now, still low but trying. Doing my best, already feeling significantly better. I cant wait until I can get through the detox process and become a genuine human. I also decided to switch now from powder (f that stuff) to dried leaves, I am not going to put my stomach and intestines though all that bs anyome. The swampy gunk was so bad for my digestion and caused bloaty constipation.
@@StrongKeithJ day 6 and i'm still going strong! feeling so much better today. didnt have any cravings when i quit in April. Advice for anyone who has already quit but thinking about using; Its way harder to quit the 2nd time! its not worth it, don't relapse
Been taking kratom for 8 years, my body got used to it, to the point where I wasn’t even having any effects, I actually gained weight taking kratom, this is my second day wish me luck 😂 I used kratom for a crutch, for anxiety, ive suffered with anxiety since forever, to the point where i can’t even go out and be around people it sucks, so I’m hoping to just heal Myself and get through my mental battles! I wish you luck, I hope you’re doing good! ❤
Oh yeah your body gets used to it! I got addicted quick. My weight went up and down. I gained a bunch of weight about 1 1/2 years in. I ate everything in sight! I feel for your anxiety. Truly. You can definitely do this! Keep me posted!
Day 2.. feeling like crap. Very comparable to coming off anti depressants.. lack of motivation, low mood, fatigue, lack of concentration and just wanting to be in bed. I really was in denial about becoming reliant on the stuff.
On Day 2 and I got the runs too. I'm hoping I lose weight and start working out. I usually mix my kratom with chocolate milk or orange juice and it's SO many extra calories every day just to use kratom. Went from 30 grams a day to nothing, tapering just doesn't work for me. I agree it's poison. Your videos have been so helpful man, they came at the perfect time
It's poison brother. I know what you mean. Tapering,I couldn't do it either. One time I tapered down to probably 25-30 grams a day. Then I stared taking big doses again and forget it. I had to go through the fire to not want it. I'm glad they're helping you! 🤜🤛
Congrats bro! Looking good! One of my favorite parts of quitting is getting my glow back and healthy weight. Day 11 right now after a year long relapse following 2 years off. This time around I've been eating medium doses of mushrooms since day 3 in to detox. Been rough for sure, but the psily is definitely helping me reach escape velocity from this nasty stuff. It's crazy how much kratom sneakily takes from you over time. Excited to get it all back, little by little 💯 Congrats again brother 💪
I can see the shrooms helping with the cravings, the urge of relapse, it can consume your mind like you cant think about anything else. And the shrooms can pull you away from that pit.
Thanks man for me kratom would increase my appetite. Im 5'6 almost 5'7 and low for me is 147 highest ive got to is low 60's functional muscle and cardio is better then body building. The fitness content Is where Its at man appreciate your time 👍
Yeah I hear that. In my 3rd year using, I would eat like crazy. I was probably 205. But before I quit I was pretty skinny. Thank you for watching brother 🤜🤛
Ive been hooked for almost 2 years now, managed to quit several times but only for a week or 2. Idk why its so hard to stay off it. I keep putting myself through this over and over
I hope you are doing well Keith, same for all of you that’s going through tough times with this stuff. I am going to come back here and check on everyone, see if there’s any advice I can offer whenever I can. Much love everyone. If you’re having a really hard time, know that you are not alone. Even though sometimes the words might not mean as much when you’re feeling a certain way, I get it. You can get through it and become a wiser and stronger person too. Addiction can be a really great teacher, I certainly learned a lot from it. To those of you really struggling, you’re either going to learn the lesson or not, and better you learn it sooner than later! Just accept what you know about inside. You know the truth. And it can be very painful, but it has to be done. Sometimes it takes a lifetime of repetition to learn, I hope that doesn’t happen to any of you. That’s just what I think anyway. ❤
I'm on day 10 and went to work for the first time, it was rough, no energy, still have stomach and temp regulation issues and mentally I'm still kinda struggling but I'm trying to take it one day at a time, I'm definitely better so I'm happy about that, I just know I still have a lot of time before I'm back to normal and I don't want to go back to that addicted hell I was in everyday.
Hi,im from malaysia 🇲🇾...and now day 3 i quitting kratom..🤒😭😭😭... My body hurts so much...veins seem to be pulled,the body feels hot and cold and Diarrhea.....😂😭😭😭😭
I was 235, 5'10. Just happened to quit opiates and got on kratom same time i decided to get in shape. Dropped down to 165 shredded, had that death face 💀
I've watched lots of videos on physical affects of Kratom use/withdrawal, but can you talk about the mental/emotional day to day use? Like what did you notice were the negative consequences in behavior? I've seen plenty about appetite reduction, addictive qualities, but no one speaks about if/how it changes you mentally/day to day behaviors. Can anyone share their experience please?
To me, that’s actually the biggest problem there is when it comes to kratom. Don’t get me wrong, there are clear physical side effects, and that can get bad too, but there’s something very twisted with it, the way it affects the mind. It is so glaring that even at my best when I would go back to it I’d notice it would totally change me to a more agitated person that saw things negatively and couldn’t stop seeing and feeling things in a more negative light. And then it would take enough time away to sort of stabilize myself again back to normal. And that was just from one day of use when I’d already be stable minded and off it for a while. So I became really attuned to my mental state both off and on it. I’m talking about the last periods of my use of it where I’d experiment after longer periods without it and go back and see just how badly it would screw with my mental state even when I wasn’t taking it regularly. I went through many years of varying uses so just to be specific about what I’m talking about here, if you follow lol I hope it’s not written too messy to comprehend. Of course, when you first begin to stuff it’s a very different dynamic, but it changes drastically over time. I don’t remember feeling the negatives when I first began. It was over a course of twenty years where I was off and on the stuff for varying periods of time.
@@YourMomsBestBoyfriend Thanks for your perspective and time to comment, very helpful. My partner started taking it 3 yrs ago and I've started to notice a shift; more withdrawn or hyper focused on one or two things but definitely not as aware as they used to be. Kind of a veil of separation. Doesn't plan things as in the past, although to them, they think they are way more social and active. Seems to be playing a trick on the mind, because it's busyness without much outcome. Also, maybe an inability to let negative thoughts go, ruminates for longer. I've watched several videos, but not many talking about what it's like for the partners or relationship dynamics when ppl are on it Thanks again!
I survived another night. Last night was worse than the previous couple of nights, definitely thought of using a little around 5am, after pacing and doing pushups all night. Today is Day 5! 👊
Keep killing it bro! One day at a time. Some days/nights are worse. Every week you'll see progress though!
Damn bro, that's my worst nightmare, being up days on end and still handling business. Good for you, stay strong you're almost out of the woods
@@ronmexico79 Thank you brother!
@@StrongKeithJ I appreciate you man! How do you manage your time for the gym with family/work life?
I think a gym routine would be extremely beneficial for me at this point.
@AkiraSudoko I go to the gym early in the AM. Like 5:45-6:45. Go home, drop kids off at school and go to work. I'm usually home between 4-5. And that's family time, chores, homework, getting ready for the next day, marriage time. Hard to juggle sometimes, but what else am I going to do besides try. You know?
Since we were discussing weight. In my dark days of things going wrong, depression with ST, and using 20-30g of kratom, eating only cookies and sweet stuff and maybe once in 3 days I would force myself to make sandwiches or scrambled eggs or potatoes. I am 6ft 6, and I weighted 145 pounds, at the time it didnt even seem like a problem to me. Had very low appetite, the effort of cooking/prepping food seemed unnecessary.
Now I eat better, workout 3 times a week, still use kratom, tapering off, now about 15g. I weight 165 pounds now, still low but trying. Doing my best, already feeling significantly better. I cant wait until I can get through the detox process and become a genuine human.
I also decided to switch now from powder (f that stuff) to dried leaves, I am not going to put my stomach and intestines though all that bs anyome. The swampy gunk was so bad for my digestion and caused bloaty constipation.
Nice! Sounds like you found a way to do it! When you get low enough, just take the jump. I'm very happy food your progress. Almost there! 🤜🤛
I definitely gained weight the first time I quit. Day 4 today homie! I just keeps getting better. God bless
God Bless brother! Keep killing it!
@@StrongKeithJ day 6 and i'm still going strong! feeling so much better today. didnt have any cravings when i quit in April. Advice for anyone who has already quit but thinking about using; Its way harder to quit the 2nd time! its not worth it, don't relapse
@doctormango9209 You're doing it now, that's all that counts bro. I'll tell you this, I'm not relapsing!
Day 9 baaaaaaby(sorry im from New Orleans), hahahaha going strong and i finally feel free. Finally the anehodonia is basically gone! @@StrongKeithJ
@doctormango9209 All good. You're killing baby! 🤣
I couldn't be happier for you!
Been taking kratom for 8 years, my body got used to it, to the point where I wasn’t even having any effects, I actually gained weight taking kratom, this is my second day wish me luck 😂 I used kratom for a crutch, for anxiety, ive suffered with anxiety since forever, to the point where i can’t even go out and be around people it sucks, so I’m hoping to just heal
Myself and get through my mental battles! I wish you luck, I hope you’re doing good! ❤
Oh yeah your body gets used to it! I got addicted quick. My weight went up and down. I gained a bunch of weight about 1 1/2 years in. I ate everything in sight!
I feel for your anxiety. Truly. You can definitely do this! Keep me posted!
"Unearned endorphins" 💯 Day 1 no Kratom 👍
Good job! I'm so happy to hear that! Keep me updated! 😁🤜🤛
Day 2.. feeling like crap. Very comparable to coming off anti depressants.. lack of motivation, low mood, fatigue, lack of concentration and just wanting to be in bed. I really was in denial about becoming reliant on the stuff.
@@gracemurrayart Do you have someone to help you through this?
@@StrongKeithJ not really, and I have so much work to do which isn't helping! Just going to speak with Jesus and ask him to guide me through 🙏
@gracemurrayart If you have him you have the best help there is. I'll pay for you. 🙏
On Day 2 and I got the runs too. I'm hoping I lose weight and start working out. I usually mix my kratom with chocolate milk or orange juice and it's SO many extra calories every day just to use kratom. Went from 30 grams a day to nothing, tapering just doesn't work for me. I agree it's poison. Your videos have been so helpful man, they came at the perfect time
It's poison brother. I know what you mean. Tapering,I couldn't do it either. One time I tapered down to probably 25-30 grams a day. Then I stared taking big doses again and forget it. I had to go through the fire to not want it. I'm glad they're helping you! 🤜🤛
Congrats bro! Looking good! One of my favorite parts of quitting is getting my glow back and healthy weight. Day 11 right now after a year long relapse following 2 years off. This time around I've been eating medium doses of mushrooms since day 3 in to detox. Been rough for sure, but the psily is definitely helping me reach escape velocity from this nasty stuff. It's crazy how much kratom sneakily takes from you over time. Excited to get it all back, little by little 💯 Congrats again brother 💪
You'll be back in no time brother. Thank you for the kind words. What made you quit? And what made you relapse?
I can see the shrooms helping with the cravings, the urge of relapse, it can consume your mind like you cant think about anything else. And the shrooms can pull you away from that pit.
Thanks man for me kratom would increase my appetite. Im 5'6 almost 5'7 and low for me is 147 highest ive got to is low 60's functional muscle and cardio is better then body building. The fitness content Is where Its at man appreciate your time 👍
Yeah I hear that. In my 3rd year using, I would eat like crazy. I was probably 205. But before I quit I was pretty skinny. Thank you for watching brother 🤜🤛
Kratom certainly stops your motivation. Keep makin vids little brother. You are a real dude and people will listen to you.
It makes you really consider how much it could potentially affect hormones, like testosterone.
Thank you very much brother 🤜🤛
Ive been hooked for almost 2 years now, managed to quit several times but only for a week or 2. Idk why its so hard to stay off it. I keep putting myself through this over and over
You'll know when you're truly ready to quit. You just have to take that jump. You'll do it!
I hope you are doing well Keith, same for all of you that’s going through tough times with this stuff.
I am going to come back here and check on everyone, see if there’s any advice I can offer whenever I can.
Much love everyone.
If you’re having a really hard time, know that you are not alone. Even though sometimes the words might not mean as much when you’re feeling a certain way, I get it. You can get through it and become a wiser and stronger person too. Addiction can be a really great teacher, I certainly learned a lot from it.
To those of you really struggling, you’re either going to learn the lesson or not, and better you learn it sooner than later!
Just accept what you know about inside. You know the truth. And it can be very painful, but it has to be done. Sometimes it takes a lifetime of repetition to learn, I hope that doesn’t happen to any of you. That’s just what I think anyway.
❤
Thank you very much for your insight 🙏
I'm on day 10 and went to work for the first time, it was rough, no energy, still have stomach and temp regulation issues and mentally I'm still kinda struggling but I'm trying to take it one day at a time, I'm definitely better so I'm happy about that, I just know I still have a lot of time before I'm back to normal and I don't want to go back to that addicted hell I was in everyday.
You're doing great! That addicted hell is no fun at all! Our real self is being held hostage.
Hi,im from malaysia 🇲🇾...and now day 3 i quitting kratom..🤒😭😭😭...
My body hurts so much...veins seem to be pulled,the body feels hot and cold and Diarrhea.....😂😭😭😭😭
I know how you feel! Lol
You'll be fine though. Your health is worth it!
Your weight is all fluid
I was 235, 5'10. Just happened to quit opiates and got on kratom same time i decided to get in shape. Dropped down to 165 shredded, had that death face 💀
Yeah bro, that green stuff is not good for the insides. Sounds like you kill it in the gym though! 🏋️♂️ 🤜🤛
@@StrongKeithJwhy does kratom make people lose so much weight?
@@LoudenSwain-cu8rg It’s poison bro. Has to be
😂 most people are so out of touch with whats healthy and not.... im 39 walk 14 miles a day lifting since i was a teenager on kratom or off
That’s awesome you’ve stayed active. You’re right, many people need to be educated.
Going to have to call you No-Kratom Keith now
Yeah I need to change my name on here. Not sure what to change it to though.
Im five 9 190 pounds on kratom
I've watched lots of videos on physical affects of Kratom use/withdrawal, but can you talk about the mental/emotional day to day use? Like what did you notice were the negative consequences in behavior? I've seen plenty about appetite reduction, addictive qualities, but no one speaks about if/how it changes you mentally/day to day behaviors. Can anyone share their experience please?
I'll put something together. 🤜🤛
To me, that’s actually the biggest problem there is when it comes to kratom. Don’t get me wrong, there are clear physical side effects, and that can get bad too, but there’s something very twisted with it, the way it affects the mind.
It is so glaring that even at my best when I would go back to it I’d notice it would totally change me to a more agitated person that saw things negatively and couldn’t stop seeing and feeling things in a more negative light. And then it would take enough time away to sort of stabilize myself again back to normal. And that was just from one day of use when I’d already be stable minded and off it for a while. So I became really attuned to my mental state both off and on it. I’m talking about the last periods of my use of it where I’d experiment after longer periods without it and go back and see just how badly it would screw with my mental state even when I wasn’t taking it regularly. I went through many years of varying uses so just to be specific about what I’m talking about here, if you follow lol I hope it’s not written too messy to comprehend.
Of course, when you first begin to stuff it’s a very different dynamic, but it changes drastically over time. I don’t remember feeling the negatives when I first began. It was over a course of twenty years where I was off and on the stuff for varying periods of time.
@@YourMomsBestBoyfriend Thanks for your perspective and time to comment, very helpful. My partner started taking it 3 yrs ago and I've started to notice a shift; more withdrawn or hyper focused on one or two things but definitely not as aware as they used to be. Kind of a veil of separation. Doesn't plan things as in the past, although to them, they think they are way more social and active. Seems to be playing a trick on the mind, because it's busyness without much outcome.
Also, maybe an inability to let negative thoughts go, ruminates for longer.
I've watched several videos, but not many talking about what it's like for the partners or relationship dynamics when ppl are on it Thanks again!
Five 9 165 pounds off kratom
Kratom makes me gain muscle its very good for lifting if taken in low doses
Kratom made me gain weight after 2 years of use. I was working out and eating like a pig. I know what you mean.
I took huge doses though. Terrible for the body.
@@StrongKeithJ yes I did before too im dwn to 9 gs or so a day I do ok not perfect but better then 40
@@StrongKeithJ I gain leaan mass not much fat
@@StrongKeithJ maybe ide be stronger off kratom idk seems like I do better on it
Keith drink milk eat eggs drink water est salt youll grow muscle
I was 176 right when I quit. I’m sitting at 205 now. Lots of muscle! 💪
@@StrongKeithJ damn that's awesome lifting is best drug ever purely
I can’t agree more!