On day 15! Praise God thank you for your video , the Truth is real! Jesus is the Only Way to stay stopped! You have to make the decision and God will help you in that journey because a Good God does not want you a slave to a substance. Grateful …
My man, thanks! Day 24 I slept a full night for the first time last night. I started this whole thing out many months ago. A lot like you started kratom 5 years ago going through a kilo every couple weeks. Just finally had enough of not being fully present for my wife and daughter. Did the whole taper thing for 6-8 months and got down to about 30 grams a day. Then kinda hit the plateau. If I took any less, withdrawls would be too much. I finally realized that I was keeping myself in a constant state of slight withdrawl for months. Finally got the courage up to taper again. Made a plan, printed out a calendar, wrote everything down, all the stuff your supposed to do. First night didn't sleep, restless legs, headache, all the above. I just laid there staring at the ceiling all night. At about 2 in the morning I said f this. If its going to be this bad I'm done! Had that conversation with God right there. I always made my kratom the night before. So when I woke up it was there on the kitchen counter. It was strange I looked at it, wanted to take it, but I also had this sick feeling. I just left it right there on the counter. Went in and started watching some videos. I found all your early ones day 1, day 2, day 3, etc. That was it. I had already made up my mind that I was quitting that night but when I watched your videos I knew I could get through cold turkey. Haven't touched the stuff since. It's funny, I'm listening to this while I type When you said to throw it a way I realized I still have it all in the cupboard. I have no desire. When I think about it it makes me feel sick? grossed out? I don't know I just know I won't touch it. Anyway I just wanted to thank you and let you know that your videos made a difference. God bless you brother. Anybody else reading this "You can do it and you will be a better person on the other side of it"
We all have lived the same life! Just different versions. Yes I had to quit cold turkey, and I had to throw away all kratom. Yes thinking about drinking kratom grosses me out. I never liked the flavor! God bless you too brother! Thank you for sharing. 🤜🤛
On day 2.. worst part for me is the feeling that I’ll be stuck feeling like this forever. The sadness, lethargy, heavy headedness/head pressure, boredom, etc… I want to believe and know it gets better. But just hard when you’re quitting. Thanks for the video and reading this comment if you do.
Yeah the first week is the hardest brother. No doubt about it. The only advice I can give is to stay hydrated, try to eat healthy, stay away from caffeine. I know the night is probably the hardest. Just keep pushing! I know you’re just surviving right now. Around Day 4-5 things will get a little better. Just recognize when they get better, and know your body is slowly healing. It’s a process. Be patient, and be strong.
Today is my day one of quiting ive been using for years and have taken kilos of kratom...so much wasted money and lost time with myself and family...so sick of being in this prison...i want my life back....time to fight for myself and my kids...god bless everyone for making these videos
God bless you brother. Yes do it for your kids, but first, do it for you. Get yourself healthy, physically and mentally. Then you can take better care of your kids.
About three months ago i was around 30-50 gpd!!! Way way to much! I've worked myself down to 10 gpd and feel way better since i lowered my dose! I'm going to continue cutting down! Kratom can get out of control so quickly! Especially since the powder is cheap and accessable! Never messed around with the extracts thank God!
That’s great that you tapered down! Best way for your body I’m sure! I started getting into the extracts right before I quit. They are something else! Terrible for your body!
Over the course of a year, I tapered from 20g a day down to 1.5g a day and still had restless legs for 2 weeks. It was terrible but worth the anguish. It's something to keep in your memory to not go back. If you feel like using, play the whole tape. Not just the part where is feels good. There is a price to pay.
Hi man im from Czech here its new thing for people so nobody tell dark sides of kratom. I stoped yesterday in 21:00 in night. So im only 9 hours sober. I feel its hard but i have motivation. I gived my father all kratom to hide it and now i feel like a sh*t. I think peek of this detox coming soon but i know its for me last chance save my life because im working on pc so i had no walk. So i can still walk so maybe its my last chance change. Thx❤
48 hours for me, quit for 9 days in october, been on 15-20g a day ever since. Not feeling too bad today, i'm sleeping so long too, like 10 hours a night whereas most complain they cant sleep at all. Weird
That crossed my mind many times. I literally use to think about using it for the next 5, 10, 15 years. Maybe as a 50 year old man. I just couldn’t do it though. I just knew I would quit one day! I didn’t know at the time, but all the self talk is what convinced me in the end. I convinced myself after years of use that I was going to quit, and I was going to go through whatever withdrawals were ahead of me. I was right! You will quit!
I feel like tapper down first do half for a couple weeks then half that for 2 weeks then only use to sleep for 2 more weeks then stop if will not be as bad as just cold turkey. I use it, and I love it. I don't feel a need to quit for me it's working. The restless leg syndrome is by far the worst part for me.
Yeah that might be a more manageable way for a lot of people. Here’s how I see it. Anything that I need to taper off of, and go through withdrawals with, is definitely not worth it.
He’s right, 15 days is huge! If you can do the first 15, the next 15 will be a breeze. Develop good habits. Ignore all cravings. We know kratom is crap. 🤜🤛
Quitting kratom is quite easy. It's all in your head. Its easy to make it much more difficult out if fear than it really is. A disciplined taper plan works.
It’s definitely not easy for many people. Once you’ve found a way to quit that works, it seems easy. But believe me there are thousands of people that wish they could find a way to quit. Your are right about it being in your head. You have to make changes there first. It is not only in your head though. There are intense physical withdrawals and addiction as well.
Glad to see you're still going strong bro. I fell off awhile back and I'm trying to quit for good. I've always tried cold turkey in the past but this time I've tried tapering. I've gone from 30 grams a day to 7.5 currently. I know the biggest challenge will be when I make that jump to zero use soon.
i am obssessed with this crap i feel like im gonna miss out on something if i dont get more or they might not have it anymore. i just cant seem to find my faith which i want to but im just on a repeat cycle
I been on and of it for years. Persevering and a week off now. The physical wd is not to be scoffed at, but the mental battle is no joke. Make it like a month and my mind convinces me I can take a little bit... My own little secret of suffering. Not too far off from opiate wd - because mitragynine is an opioid. Peace
Yes, I believe I went through full blown opioid withdrawal. It was definitely crazy hard! But yes you have to prepare yourself mentally. If you tell yourself over and over that you will never do it again, you start to believe it. And quitting is easier because you know you’re never going back. So it’s not an option on the table. We fail because we never write things off 100%.
"stuff we gotta deal with...." no matter what it is.... and sometimes just being tired and stressed is some of those things. deal with it.... either by overcoming it, or trying to understand what the root cause is, and work on that.....
have you noticed your hair doing better, i remember seeing early on in one of ur first vids talking about it saying your hair was starting to fall out and balding the past few years and you werent sure if it was kratom related or not? I too feel like I have been balding significantly more since my use, my blood brother isnt balding as bad as me but our family all has pretty bad hair and thin but i feel like mine is the worst easily. My doses have been going up lately like 23 grams a dose which is absurd amount, 3 regular times a day and then a few un weighed doses that are smaller throughout work and if/when I wake up middle of night early early morning so I can possibly get rid of the restless leg and back so i can sleep until I have to work I swear its just such a habit and routine now it makes it difficult, Im so used to and look forward to those doses all day sadly
My hair has not gotten better. Lol. Genetics brotha. I’m sure I sped up the process with kratom. But it’s not coming back. That’s life. Yes that is about exactly what I was talking! Almost exactly. I would take my first dose within an hour of waking up. Second dose usually around 2 pm or 3. Then another dose about an hour before bed. That was my heaviest dose. I wanted to get as high as I could before I went to sleep. I would throw another dose in there very often. I would look forward to it as well. It seemed like I would think about kratom constantly for a few years there. First thing in the morning. After my first dose, enjoying the high, then it would wear off, and I would consider using early. Then I would. Sometimes I would take too much and be nauseous. Do I have enough kratom to get through the day? The shop closed already. I’ll have to go as soon as they open. Then I would buy in bulk. I was always looking for sales. It’s such a weight off my shoulders! I can’t express that enough! There’s hope my brother. If I had any advice, I would say start hitting the gym regularly. Start diving into your faith. God accept any and everyone. Try to dial the kratom use back. Taper if you can. Tapering seemed like it would drag it out way too long. And I wanted to be done! So I just quit! I was sick! You can do this too when you’re ready!
@@StrongKeithJ not too bad thank you Keith! Had some relapses but currently 2 weeks without using. It's taken me a few times to realise just how much it affects creativity and passion for the things we love. Really sneaky stuff. So glad to see you've stayed strong 🙏
I totally get it. I’ve struggled to quit for years as my last video explained. Glad to see you still pushing! You’re killing it! You’re strong! Very creative person! 🤜🤛 Keep me posted!
Hit your knees and cry out to the lord for his salvation and restoration. I’m at 2 months 600 mg extract per day Now I’m brand new . Life is beautiful. Give it a try . Strength is in the lord Jesus ! Stay blessed
Yall think if you ween down to like 5 caps basically 2 grams a day there will be withdrawls when you jump off ? Cause I know getting down to 5 caps a day all day only ! I still had low sex drive even at that small amount
I think the withdrawals are inevitable. My opinion. Nobody gets away Scott free. At least in my experience. I definitely think the withdrawal is a lot more tolerable when you ween down to a low dose.
@@StrongKeithJ so true. I feel good about it this time, it’s just I have no frame of reference because my previous attempts were totally cold Turkey. Overall, I reduced my dose, and I’m hanging on to that as a small victory. No matter what happens, if my dose is reduced, that’s progress to build on from there.
there are different things that can help. doing parasites cleanses help with cravings big time and i guarantee everyone has parasites. there is something called methylene blue. its good fir heavy metals cleansing it increases oxygen levels.
I used almost strictly powder. There were a couple vacations that I used only capsules though for a few days. I would take about 15 capsules, 4 times a day. So 60 a day. That was probably the least. I’m sure I used more a couple days. I must also say that this amount wouldn’t get me that high either. Just a good head change and no withdrawals. On a daily basis I used between 60g-80g of powder a day though. Sometimes throwing an extract shot in there.
8 year user at 30-80 grams per day. What worked for me, your mileage may vary, was 50mg Trazadone and weed as needed at night. Then 20-80mg adderall depending on tolerance. This allowed me to zone out enough at night for me to listen to TH-cam videos and the adderall allowed me to keep my performance up at work/parenting. Stay strong
Yeah I hear that! Trazadone was the only one that helped me sleep. But I quickly stopped. Didn’t want to destroy my circadian rhythm. Weed and any other drug as well. I just wanted to be completely sober for a while. Do you still use anything else??
@@StrongKeithJ Yeah that was the big issue after week 3. I had to stop the Trazadone all together. No nothing else, no drinking and no recreational substances
@@dakotaap0 Yeah it’s crazy but we need to be completely sober for a while to really get our body back to baseline. My humble opinion. That’s awesome though! You’re killing it brother!
God sometimes ministers to us in dreams so the enemy wants to keep us from dreaming. I've been attempting to taper my kratom use and dreams are coming back.
Wow I’ve never heard that before. That’s cool! Can you send me that scripture? It’s amazing how quickly your body starts repairing itself. It’s a process for sure, but you’re seeing results just by attempting to taper. Imagine when you’re no longer dependent.
@@StrongKeithJJob 33:14-18. Acts 2:17-18. The Holy Spirit will show you things to come concerning his plan for your life if you are renewing your mind with the word of God Daily John 16:13. Romans 12:1-2. This stuff is really starting to steal the joy out of my life and I have to let it go . Pray for me, brother I’m jumping cold turkey tomorrow
I’ll check these scriptures out! Thank you! Tomorrow will be the beginning of a truly religious experience. Accept the pain. You will step on the other side a better man.
Thanks. It’s a big negative in my life. Like you’ve said, a monkey on my back wearing me down. I have four kids and I need to give them the attention and priority, not Kratom.
@@StrongKeithJ yea, altho on average 2 times per week i go a bit higher like 7-9 grams. While that used to be higher than that too. So im doing good, really good. I somehow feel less attached to it finally by fixing other parts of my life. All of a sudden it aint as hard as before since i could never get down this low. Ur vids keep helping me encourage myself
That’s awesome! It’s funny how we are trying to fill the void in our life with kratom. But really we just need productive activities and self worth. I can’t tell you how happy I am for you. 🤜🤛
yes, consistency is hard, esp when u taper, ur gonna have bad days, if u feel shitty now u can grab a beer u feel me, if i feel bad its tempting to just superdose kratom. still if it persists then yea we both screwed, jst so much work and discipline to work on ur stuff. the bad thing is we know what to do but we can be lazy, crazy right to rather be lazy sometimes than just do the work to stay on course of whats important (keep the k away). cheers@@StrongKeithJ
On day 15! Praise God thank you for your video , the Truth is real! Jesus is the Only Way to stay stopped! You have to make the decision and God will help you in that journey because a Good God does not want you a slave to a substance. Grateful …
Amen! Grateful and blessed. 🤜🤛
My man, thanks! Day 24 I slept a full night for the first time last night. I started this whole thing out many months ago. A lot like you started kratom 5 years ago going through a kilo every couple weeks. Just finally had enough of not being fully present for my wife and daughter. Did the whole taper thing for 6-8 months and got down to about 30 grams a day. Then kinda hit the plateau. If I took any less, withdrawls would be too much. I finally realized that I was keeping myself in a constant state of slight withdrawl for months. Finally got the courage up to taper again. Made a plan, printed out a calendar, wrote everything down, all the stuff your supposed to do. First night didn't sleep, restless legs, headache, all the above. I just laid there staring at the ceiling all night. At about 2 in the morning I said f this. If its going to be this bad I'm done! Had that conversation with God right there. I always made my kratom the night before. So when I woke up it was there on the kitchen counter. It was strange I looked at it, wanted to take it, but I also had this sick feeling. I just left it right there on the counter. Went in and started watching some videos. I found all your early ones day 1, day 2, day 3, etc. That was it. I had already made up my mind that I was quitting that night but when I watched your videos I knew I could get through cold turkey. Haven't touched the stuff since. It's funny, I'm listening to this while I type When you said to throw it a way I realized I still have it all in the cupboard. I have no desire. When I think about it it makes me feel sick? grossed out? I don't know I just know I won't touch it. Anyway I just wanted to thank you and let you know that your videos made a difference. God bless you brother. Anybody else reading this "You can do it and you will be a better person on the other side of it"
We all have lived the same life! Just different versions. Yes I had to quit cold turkey, and I had to throw away all kratom. Yes thinking about drinking kratom grosses me out. I never liked the flavor! God bless you too brother! Thank you for sharing. 🤜🤛
On day 2.. worst part for me is the feeling that I’ll be stuck feeling like this forever. The sadness, lethargy, heavy headedness/head pressure, boredom, etc… I want to believe and know it gets better. But just hard when you’re quitting. Thanks for the video and reading this comment if you do.
Yeah the first week is the hardest brother. No doubt about it. The only advice I can give is to stay hydrated, try to eat healthy, stay away from caffeine. I know the night is probably the hardest. Just keep pushing! I know you’re just surviving right now. Around Day 4-5 things will get a little better. Just recognize when they get better, and know your body is slowly healing. It’s a process. Be patient, and be strong.
@@StrongKeithJ Thank you brother.
Keep me posted! 🤜🤛
@@TrueCodymagnesium n potassium are must, kratom depletes minerals n create adrenal fatigue (cfs). So dhea/pregnenolone will also cure it
Don’t be a quitter lol
Today is my day one of quiting ive been using for years and have taken kilos of kratom...so much wasted money and lost time with myself and family...so sick of being in this prison...i want my life back....time to fight for myself and my kids...god bless everyone for making these videos
God bless you brother. Yes do it for your kids, but first, do it for you. Get yourself healthy, physically and mentally. Then you can take better care of your kids.
Are you feeling better? I am on day one
You’re a great speaker! God bless you
Thank you very much. God bless you
About three months ago i was around 30-50 gpd!!! Way way to much! I've worked myself down to 10 gpd and feel way better since i lowered my dose! I'm going to continue cutting down! Kratom can get out of control so quickly! Especially since the powder is cheap and accessable! Never messed around with the extracts thank God!
That’s great that you tapered down! Best way for your body I’m sure!
I started getting into the extracts right before I quit. They are something else! Terrible for your body!
“One who has a why can withstand almost any how.”
-Friedrich Nietzsche
A great quote! I’ve never heard that one.
Over the course of a year, I tapered from 20g a day down to 1.5g a day and still had restless legs for 2 weeks. It was terrible but worth the anguish. It's something to keep in your memory to not go back. If you feel like using, play the whole tape. Not just the part where is feels good. There is a price to pay.
I’m going to use that! Play the whole tape! Amen to that!
I’ve had an eight year dependence and tapering off this stuff. I was a heavy user like you. I enjoy listening to your story. Great job kicking it!
Thank you very much! You have to be so disciplined to taper. I admire you. Keep killing it!
Thanks for all your help!! Your videos helped me so much! I used it for 6 and half years and I did it! I quit. You can do it!!
Amen! You can do it! You’re doing it! We! 🤜🤛
Hi man im from Czech here its new thing for people so nobody tell dark sides of kratom. I stoped yesterday in 21:00 in night. So im only 9 hours sober. I feel its hard but i have motivation. I gived my father all kratom to hide it and now i feel like a sh*t. I think peek of this detox coming soon but i know its for me last chance save my life because im working on pc so i had no walk. So i can still walk so maybe its my last chance change. Thx❤
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I am praying for you. We must be uncomfortable for a while and this will make us stronger. You will do great!
🤜🤛
48 hours for me, quit for 9 days in october, been on 15-20g a day ever since. Not feeling too bad today, i'm sleeping so long too, like 10 hours a night whereas most complain they cant sleep at all. Weird
That’s awesome! Yes I couldn’t sleep for days. And I think sleep is the most important part of our health. Keep going! 🤜🤛
How are you doing now?
This is almost perfect timing. Sitting here freaking out that I’ll be stuck on this shit forever.
That crossed my mind many times. I literally use to think about using it for the next 5, 10, 15 years. Maybe as a 50 year old man. I just couldn’t do it though. I just knew I would quit one day! I didn’t know at the time, but all the self talk is what convinced me in the end. I convinced myself after years of use that I was going to quit, and I was going to go through whatever withdrawals were ahead of me. I was right! You will quit!
I feel like tapper down first do half for a couple weeks then half that for 2 weeks then only use to sleep for 2 more weeks then stop if will not be as bad as just cold turkey. I use it, and I love it. I don't feel a need to quit for me it's working. The restless leg syndrome is by far the worst part for me.
Yeah that might be a more manageable way for a lot of people. Here’s how I see it. Anything that I need to taper off of, and go through withdrawals with, is definitely not worth it.
On the end of day 15 today. I'm getting through it. Thanks for making these videos brother.
Congratulations brother big deal
He’s right, 15 days is huge! If you can do the first 15, the next 15 will be a breeze. Develop good habits. Ignore all cravings. We know kratom is crap. 🤜🤛
Quitting kratom is quite easy. It's all in your head. Its easy to make it much more difficult out if fear than it really is. A disciplined taper plan works.
It’s definitely not easy for many people. Once you’ve found a way to quit that works, it seems easy. But believe me there are thousands of people that wish they could find a way to quit. Your are right about it being in your head. You have to make changes there first. It is not only in your head though. There are intense physical withdrawals and addiction as well.
Disciplined slow taper is definitely the best, no doubt.
Glad to see you're still going strong bro. I fell off awhile back and I'm trying to quit for good. I've always tried cold turkey in the past but this time I've tried tapering. I've gone from 30 grams a day to 7.5 currently. I know the biggest challenge will be when I make that jump to zero use soon.
That’s awesome! I think you’re ready to make the jump! Let me know when you do.
i am obssessed with this crap i feel like im gonna miss out on something if i dont get more or they might not have it anymore. i just cant seem to find my faith which i want to but im just on a repeat cycle
I would go to church every Sunday and even serve on the team. And I felt like a huge hypocrite. Not in front of the people, but in front of God.
I been on and of it for years. Persevering and a week off now. The physical wd is not to be scoffed at, but the mental battle is no joke. Make it like a month and my mind convinces me I can take a little bit... My own little secret of suffering. Not too far off from opiate wd - because mitragynine is an opioid. Peace
Yes, I believe I went through full blown opioid withdrawal. It was definitely crazy hard! But yes you have to prepare yourself mentally. If you tell yourself over and over that you will never do it again, you start to believe it. And quitting is easier because you know you’re never going back. So it’s not an option on the table. We fail because we never write things off 100%.
Thank you
thank you Keith.
You are welcome🙏
Thank you for watching. 🤜🤛
"stuff we gotta deal with...." no matter what it is.... and sometimes just being tired and stressed is some of those things. deal with it.... either by overcoming it, or trying to understand what the root cause is, and work on that.....
There is a root cause to everything. That’s what needs to be addressed. You’re right.
have you noticed your hair doing better, i remember seeing early on in one of ur first vids talking about it saying your hair was starting to fall out and balding the past few years and you werent sure if it was kratom related or not? I too feel like I have been balding significantly more since my use, my blood brother isnt balding as bad as me but our family all has pretty bad hair and thin but i feel like mine is the worst easily. My doses have been going up lately like 23 grams a dose which is absurd amount, 3 regular times a day and then a few un weighed doses that are smaller throughout work and if/when I wake up middle of night early early morning so I can possibly get rid of the restless leg and back so i can sleep until I have to work I swear its just such a habit and routine now it makes it difficult, Im so used to and look forward to those doses all day sadly
My hair has not gotten better. Lol. Genetics brotha. I’m sure I sped up the process with kratom. But it’s not coming back. That’s life.
Yes that is about exactly what I was talking! Almost exactly. I would take my first dose within an hour of waking up. Second dose usually around 2 pm or 3. Then another dose about an hour before bed. That was my heaviest dose. I wanted to get as high as I could before I went to sleep. I would throw another dose in there very often.
I would look forward to it as well. It seemed like I would think about kratom constantly for a few years there. First thing in the morning. After my first dose, enjoying the high, then it would wear off, and I would consider using early. Then I would. Sometimes I would take too much and be nauseous. Do I have enough kratom to get through the day? The shop closed already. I’ll have to go as soon as they open. Then I would buy in bulk. I was always looking for sales.
It’s such a weight off my shoulders! I can’t express that enough! There’s hope my brother. If I had any advice, I would say start hitting the gym regularly. Start diving into your faith. God accept any and everyone. Try to dial the kratom use back. Taper if you can. Tapering seemed like it would drag it out way too long. And I wanted to be done! So I just quit! I was sick! You can do this too when you’re ready!
Looking well Keith 👏
Thank you Grace! How are you doing????
@@StrongKeithJ not too bad thank you Keith! Had some relapses but currently 2 weeks without using. It's taken me a few times to realise just how much it affects creativity and passion for the things we love. Really sneaky stuff. So glad to see you've stayed strong 🙏
I totally get it. I’ve struggled to quit for years as my last video explained. Glad to see you still pushing! You’re killing it! You’re strong! Very creative person! 🤜🤛
Keep me posted!
Hit your knees and cry out to the lord for his salvation and restoration.
I’m at 2 months
600 mg extract per day
Now I’m brand new . Life is beautiful. Give it a try .
Strength is in the lord Jesus !
Stay blessed
Amen to that brother!
Yall think if you ween down to like 5 caps basically 2 grams a day there will be withdrawls when you jump off ? Cause I know getting down to 5 caps a day all day only ! I still had low sex drive even at that small amount
I think the withdrawals are inevitable. My opinion. Nobody gets away Scott free. At least in my experience. I definitely think the withdrawal is a lot more tolerable when you ween down to a low dose.
I been doing a long ass taper and it’s been tough. 3 OPMS shots per day. Crazy. I’m being such a puss about it. Been on it for around five years
We all go through that! When you’re sick enough of it, you will quit. It’s only hurting you now.
@@StrongKeithJ so true. I feel good about it this time, it’s just I have no frame of reference because my previous attempts were totally cold Turkey. Overall, I reduced my dose, and I’m hanging on to that as a small victory. No matter what happens, if my dose is reduced, that’s progress to build on from there.
Exactly! So true. These are all good steps on the path to where you want to be. Keep going! 🤜🤛
there are different things that can help. doing parasites cleanses help with cravings big time and i guarantee everyone has parasites. there is something called methylene blue. its good fir heavy metals cleansing it increases oxygen levels.
Thanks for the info!
I've reduced my dose by 50% after two months of tapering, down to 20 grams a day now. I'm doing pretty good.
That’s so good!!! Before you know it you will be at the point where you’ll be ready to stop completely. Let me know when you do. 🤜🤛
How many capsules of Kratom would you use in one day?
I used almost strictly powder. There were a couple vacations that I used only capsules though for a few days. I would take about 15 capsules, 4 times a day. So 60 a day. That was probably the least. I’m sure I used more a couple days. I must also say that this amount wouldn’t get me that high either. Just a good head change and no withdrawals. On a daily basis I used between 60g-80g of powder a day though. Sometimes throwing an extract shot in there.
8 year user at 30-80 grams per day. What worked for me, your mileage may vary, was 50mg Trazadone and weed as needed at night. Then 20-80mg adderall depending on tolerance. This allowed me to zone out enough at night for me to listen to TH-cam videos and the adderall allowed me to keep my performance up at work/parenting. Stay strong
Yeah I hear that! Trazadone was the only one that helped me sleep. But I quickly stopped. Didn’t want to destroy my circadian rhythm. Weed and any other drug as well. I just wanted to be completely sober for a while. Do you still use anything else??
@@StrongKeithJ Yeah that was the big issue after week 3. I had to stop the Trazadone all together. No nothing else, no drinking and no recreational substances
@@dakotaap0 Yeah it’s crazy but we need to be completely sober for a while to really get our body back to baseline. My humble opinion. That’s awesome though! You’re killing it brother!
@@StrongKeithJ thanks man. It took about 5 months before I felt like myself again. There’s hope for everyone and no shortcuts to get there
@@StrongKeithJ I guess I didn’t put on the post that I used that protocol for only the first three weeks. Nothing else after that. My bad
"2nd night maybe itl get a little better," i think kratom would be as good as people say if that was true
Yup! That green powder has secrets. At the end of the day though, our bad decisions are the problem. Along with unhealed wounds.
God sometimes ministers to us in dreams so the enemy wants to keep us from dreaming. I've been attempting to taper my kratom use and dreams are coming back.
Wow I’ve never heard that before. That’s cool! Can you send me that scripture?
It’s amazing how quickly your body starts repairing itself. It’s a process for sure, but you’re seeing results just by attempting to taper. Imagine when you’re no longer dependent.
@@StrongKeithJJob 33:14-18. Acts 2:17-18. The Holy Spirit will show you things to come concerning his plan for your life if you are renewing your mind with the word of God Daily John 16:13. Romans 12:1-2.
This stuff is really starting to steal the joy out of my life and I have to let it go . Pray for me, brother I’m jumping cold turkey tomorrow
I’ll check these scriptures out! Thank you!
Tomorrow will be the beginning of a truly religious experience. Accept the pain. You will step on the other side a better man.
Demons also influence dreams, so you have to be careful and use discernment.
Definitely!
Heaping not whopping LOL
Lol yeah you knew what I meant tho
I’m struggling man. Hoping I can quit.
I am hoping you can too. I am praying for you my friend.
I’m going to do it. You’re an inspiration.
Let’s go! You can do this. Start working on your mind. Know that you’re done the day you put it down.
Thanks. It’s a big negative in my life. Like you’ve said, a monkey on my back wearing me down. I have four kids and I need to give them the attention and priority, not Kratom.
Yes that’s so important. I feel like I’ve lost a few years of their life. But thank God every day is a new chance to go in the right direction.
6.1 grams here. long long taper. will take 3-4 more months for sure
You’re killing it man! 6.1 grams a day is very little. You had so much discipline to get down to that.
@@StrongKeithJ yea, altho on average 2 times per week i go a bit higher like 7-9 grams. While that used to be higher than that too. So im doing good, really good. I somehow feel less attached to it finally by fixing other parts of my life. All of a sudden it aint as hard as before since i could never get down this low. Ur vids keep helping me encourage myself
That’s awesome! It’s funny how we are trying to fill the void in our life with kratom. But really we just need productive activities and self worth. I can’t tell you how happy I am for you. 🤜🤛
yes, consistency is hard, esp when u taper, ur gonna have bad days, if u feel shitty now u can grab a beer u feel me, if i feel bad its tempting to just superdose kratom. still if it persists then yea we both screwed, jst so much work and discipline to work on ur stuff. the bad thing is we know what to do but we can be lazy, crazy right to rather be lazy sometimes than just do the work to stay on course of whats important (keep the k away). cheers@@StrongKeithJ
Yeah it’s just hard work. But once good habits are a part of your life, it becomes easier to be healthy.
Kratom sucks that shit just numbs ur emotions
Facts!
@@StrongKeithJ yep it made me super dull and numb to life its not a miracle
Not a miracle at all! Out did some serious damage!
Dude i have some sirious questions About quiting kratom.
Do you have instagram??
Shoot me an email! K96581221@gmail.com
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