215 - Greene & Greene Blacker House Chair
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The Blacker House was one of the Greene & Greene Ultimate Bungalows built back in 1907. The entire house, furniture included, cost about $100,000 US or $2.5M in today's money. And because trivia is fun, did you know that the interior shots of Doc Brown's house in Back to the Future were filmed inside the Blacker House? Exterior shots were of the Gamble House. Both are located in Pasadena, CA.
One of the most adored pieces to come out of the Blacker House is the living room chair. Many people have endeavored to re-create this chair and most put their own personal spin on it. One of my favorite variations comes from William Ng, owner of the William Ng School of Fine Woodworking. And it just so happens that William teaches a class on how to build his version of the chair, the only class of it's kind. Since this project was on my personal bucket list, I took the opportunity to attend the class this past February and this video is the result of that effort.
If you're interested in building this chair, William offers this class a couple times a year. You can look at the latest class offerings here: wnwoodworkingschool.com
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oh wow this chair is really something amazing
Great craftsmanship Marc.
That was awesome to watch.
Excellent video documentary of your building of this chair. And the result is beautiful.
Gorgeous! I'm glad you conquered the chair. Thank you for taking us along for the adventure.
now that is an awesome project, very beautiful chair, cant even imagine building something that complex. Big Thumbs Up!
This build is probably one of my favorites and one of the best videos covering the Blacker House Chair. Well done Marc. My bucket list project is to simply make one of Greene & Greene's sconce. Thanks for sharing.
Beautiful chair, almost too nice to use. Thanks for sharing
A really interesting build and very enjoyable watch Marc. B-e-a-utiful!
The Greene & Greene team did amazing work with everything they touched. This chair is an example of their craftsmanship on a small scale. I've read about them some years back and found them to be awe inspiring. Their projects were way above the heads of the average man. I believe they worked on projects for, you might say, over the top wealthy people. My hat goes off the the man/ school you mention that went through the trouble to calculate all the templates for this chair. I want to say that is a beautiful chair indeed...even without the cushion...!!
Thank you Marc, the chair is perfect and this was one of the best if not thee best video you have ever made. Again thank you.
Larry
Wow! Absolutely beautiful. I am amazed, you are truly gifted.
Incredibly Beautiful! Thanks for showing what you learned.
Beautiful work, I love the Greene and Greene style.
Absolutely breathtaking design. I love it. Very nice work!
Can't wait to see it finished with the seat, wow Marc that was really fine woodworking, thanksfor sharing!!
Beautiful chair. Nothing like this in the UK. Thanks for sharing your experience.
A beautiful piece of work, Marc. Well done.
Thanks for sharing your chair experience. Great job.
Wow! Took the mystery out of it. Nicely done!
Stunning Marc, simply stunning.
Take care
Mike
Wonderful build, beautiful chair.
Dear Marc, this internet thing made a very small world for us all.. I am happily watching your work from here, Istanbul... I think you are one of the best quality masters, the way you tell about the work, the way you handle it. Thank you very much.
Truly beautiful. Something to aspire to methinks!! Thanks for another great video. Look forward to more.
Way to go ! Nice Chair . Greene Bro.s really had quite a place and eye for woodwork . Some of my early woodworking days put me in touch with their work thru Heartwoodworks in Kohala . ['Hap' Tallman's shop] Now on the disabled list , I have returned to my forebearer's ways . A 'un-plugged world of greatgrandad's of both sides of the family . All I have left of them is some of the tools I've inherited . Image , their work place , their quiet , dust-free work place . Well , I have now the time to rethink my work and safely produce . As I re-hab myself back and hopefully off the 'disabled 'list , your video of this chair gives me more reson to keep pushing myself .
Mahalo Mark Baker
That's incredible, you did an amazing job!
Outstanding chair. It's a work of art. Great job :)
Beautiful chair. great job
Gorgeous chair!!
Exemplary work Marc.
Thank you for sharing.
Simply beautiful!
William Ng is a master woodworker and fantastic teacher with a great channel on TH-cam. Your chair turned out marvelous and I love the Greene & Greene style.
Thats a gorgeous chair!!!
Beautiful chair marc ! I have done alot of reversed engineering with most of my woodworking and its a great challenge and very time consuming process. This is my favorite area of mind creativity. I love working with fine detailed inlay work. Keep up the good work!
Wow that is fantastic-BEAUTIFUL_ Nice job Mark...!!!
Wow! Good job, well done!
That is really a beautiful piece, good job. Would love to see an update when you get it upholstered!
Beautiful piece Marc!
Great job it looks amazing!!
Wow a lot of woodworking in that chair. Great video
Thanks Mark.
Roland
Nice build Mark. It came out great.
Hi Marc. Great Video. I took your class building the Green and Green inspired mirror frame there at Willian Ng's school. That Blacker chair is something else. Well done.
Lovely job.
Impressive and thinking about the work they put into it in the old days without power tools......
great job- i love the detail-good work
I've seen you create some beautiful projects, but this was a new level as far as I'm concerned. I'd love to see it when you complete the seat.
your chair is very beautiful congratulations, you're amazing thanks jacques
Fantastic!!!
Nice video. A few years back I took a Windsor Chair making class from Mike Dunbar. Learned a tremendous amount of hand tool use from the class; steam bending, specialized planes, fingernail drill bits. It was definitely worth the money, and I ended up with a great chair!
Heard you mention the Blacker house chair several times on past wood talk episodes, sooooo this is it huh ? Impressive! Very nice work Marc, I’m also a huge William Ng fan he’s an extraordinary woodworker and has a great sense of humor .
I really enjoy your you tube show, Ive been watching for years. Im not sure why its taken so long to become a guild member but Im very much looking forward to joining. Thanks for all you do.
Looks great. My wife has been after me to build a kitchen table and 6 matching chairs. I am still unsure of my abilities to tackle such a project, but I am starting to think that with the proper planning and careful execution I will be able to accomplish this task. Thank you for the inspiration.
Marc, I wish I had your talent, the chair is beautiful, I am a fairly new wood worker with very limited tools, I hope to some day have the talent to do some of the work that you do great job. Thanks for all of the great videos.
Mike
great chair
I love how both the contrasting spline-work and the buttons stick up a bit. It works especially well around the curves, like at 11:45.
Hi Marc, I took your Greene and Greene mirror class at Williams school. There was a fellow student there that had built 6 of these chairs! That impressed me greatly. Excellent video BTW.
Marc, that chair and the process is truly a woodworkers dream. I know you would love to give your wife a full set of those. I have looked at thousand of pictures of Mission style chairs and never found one that was unique. A couple of years back I came across a Woodworkers Journal of Craftsman Furniture Projects at Books-A-Million. I have built the red oak chairs using their plans, modified to suit me abilities. I think they are nice. Your G&G BHC is just in another league. Congratulations, you have arrived.
Mark, you're the best in your detail and presentations. I'm so envious of your Arizona weather than you can spray outside this time of the year, its still frigid here in the Adirondacks and then when it finally does warm up in June black fly season takes over making for an interesting finish.
We can have some serious dust and wind around here, but most times of the year we're pretty darn lucky in regards to finishing. I don't envy the flies and snow!
Hey Mark
Greetings from Australia, what a cool chair great job
Beautiful chair Marc! Thanks for sharing this inspiring experience with us. I bet you'll never use that one as a backup drum throne.
This is beautiful! This build is on my list too. Thanks for sharing.
Nice build
Great job amazing
Nice chair.
Holy crap Marc. Wow!
breath takingly beautiful
I'll never understand a negative reaction to Greene + Greene.
Stunning.
Thanks for the vid.
It was an acquired taste for me. I always respected the workmanship and design though I didn't initially like it. But now, I'm a big fan. I have several pieces in my own home as a result. So I can understand why some folks don't particularly like it, but I don't think there are many woodworkers out there that don't at least respect it.
The Wood Whisperer Forgive me for going on but...I travel for a living and had occasion to stay in a Seattle Hotel called The Arctic Club. It's a dramatic example of turn of the century architecture and true to it's "gold-rush" roots although it was financed by the pottery trade. It was the jumping off point for the Cook Arctic expedition. The Hotel Mascot is a walrus. Amazingly it's 'just' a Double Tree.
The workmanship throughout the place is indescribable.
The polar bar was so impressive that I could barely order my martini and embarrassed myself with a bartender who is, apparently, royalty at the hotel and internationally known for his mix-ologist publications.
I spent the first 20 minutes walking around in awe and finally stopped dead in my tracks before a simple table in a passage way that was in the Greene and Greene style.
I don't have the chops to say that it was original or a replicate/reproduction but, the point is, it just looked all the more amazing in this setting so, I'm thinking, the style is best appreciated "where it belongs" so to speak.
I think it's called a 'hall bench' which is odd because, you couldn't sit on it and was obviously not meant for sitting.
It had a branch inlay on the top and fixed "leaves/wings" with the classic Greene and Greene joinery.
I eventually found more objects peppered around that had similar examples of that type of joinery. All smallish and 'incidental'. Most of the big stuff was plush upholstery.
I checked some relevant galleries on the internet and haven't seen any examples so I doubt any of it was authentic but, it was still awesome.
I examined/stared at the hall bench long enough that the staff made the move to ask me if I was Ok and didn't need "help".
I do need 'help' but, that's a different TH-cam channel.
Enjoy but, this doesn't do it justice.....
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Beautiful as i said before i love your work. i hope 1 day to have you make me some thing
Hey Marc, looks like you have the Green and Green fever. Just got my latest issue of Popular Woodworking . Got a look at the Blanket Chest. Just like this chiar ----- awesome job! Love your videos,keep up the gret work!
Thanks Bill. I've had the fever for a while. I think I'm ready for a bit of a break now. :)
Crazy. I wonder how many more hand tools they used back in the day!
Thanks for de-mystifying this piece.
BEAUTIFUL chair and work needless to say..talk about
"gettn jiggy with it"..lol ;)
Beautiful chair.
It has been two years, did you ever finish the seat? Can you update edit this vid with pictures?
great
That is Beautiful.
Where are the other 7 chairs now?
please show us when you have seat .its awesome well done
Is it so difficult to build this beautiful chair as my first project? Just kidding. I am watching you guys videos on iTunes and saw the beautiful house fully furnished with black square joint something (I don't know what it calls) as well. Just amazing!
Fantastic Work !!! now, can you. at home make 3 more chairs for a set ? can you get the jigs ? again Well done!
I'd guess that that is a $1200 chair! Great job!
Great build!! Butt ton.... Is that a technical term? I thought I was the only one that used it!!
Great job! I did a similar class for a Greene & Greene style server. I also build the Robinson table from the plans in Woodworker's Journal several years ago. Sadly I need to sell that dining room table now since my wife wants me to make her a Farmhouse table. You don't know anyone in the market for one do you?
Or you could modify Matthias Wandel's Pantorouter with a tilting bed to handle that. Hmmm.. Not a bad idea.
Nice job Marc, I think I will stay away from chairs.
After watching this video the word "novice" is now to advanced a title for me.
Please check out Matthias Wandel's Pantorouter. Definately more capable and much less expensive than what they were using.
You mentioned a custom router bit you used. Where did you get that ?
I loved the build. I'm trying to do Greene & Greene style kitchen cabinets.
You can pick them up in William's store: shop.wnwoodworkingschool.com/Whiteside-Double-Bearing-Bit-Whiteside-Double-Bearing-Bit.htm
I like the chair, although I think it has way too many plugs...
When I look at your chair, the back seems racked to the left as I look at it. Is this an optical illusion?
Can you recommend a website to get the custom bit used to trim the ebony spline?
Where might I purchase the "modified" router bit for trimming the ebony?
Let us know when you've got that cushion installed! I'm thinking - a burgundy red would look nice.
Dropped off at the upholsterer today. Says it will be a few weeks. We're actually going with a black color but I agree, burgundy would look nice too.
The Wood Whisperer Quick photoshop sim: Black dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10423991/CushionBlack.jpg
Burg:dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10423991/CushionBurg.jpg
Lance Jacobs haha nicely done! I think they both look great!
What lacquer and spray outfit did you use?
Really great project! Just out of curiosity, for how much you can sell one of these?
I believe Darrell Peart sells his for about $7000.
The Wood Whisperer worthy. A real piece of art.
Holy Moses! Why arent you on TV yet? lol
great job man. {jealous} lol
Agreed, I miss New Yankee and especially the show that used to be on DIY network with David Marks "Woodworks". I think Marc here is a great deal more engaging and fun to watch it would be great if they put him on a network like DIY or PBS etc.
The Wood Whisperer Guild is much better than a 30 min segment on building a project...like DIY or PBS. I'll take Marc's Guild with 4 projects per year and great content. Nice job on the chair Marc!
If Marc got picked up by DIY,... he could be a crasher . . . Crash my Workshop . . . lol
John Hutchison Now that's what I like to hear! :)
Robert Schmidt I would literally just crash their workshop, take it over and not let them in as I do a project. I like that idea! :)
How did you put those small tapered sections into the leggs? I have been trying to do this myself but chissels and determination have only rewarded be with frustration . . .
Those were done on the multi-router. I have done them in the past with a standard router and a jig that sits over the legs. WIth a stop collar and a straight bit, the whole thing becomes pretty straightforward and all that's left to do is a little sanding.
Impressive piece of work. One thing that has always bothered me about the Greene & Green style is the ebony details. Clearly on your chair and most of the other modern reproductions I've seen of these pieces the plugs are just decorative. But I was surprised to see that the splines are actually functional in your chair.
In the original pieces, are the plugs (and other ebony details) purely aesthetic like they mostly are on the modern pieces? Or are they actually functional (i.e. used for locking the tenons, etc)?
The vast majority were decorative. Darrell Peart showed some x-ray images of G&G details that reveal most splines were just there for decoration and rarely provided any real support. For the most part, it was all about aesthetics.
The Wood Whisperer That is what I thought, and why I was pleasantly surprised to see actual functional splines in this chair. Their lack of functionality does bother me just a bit (my engineering mind keeps telling me "form follows function"), but I guess there isn't any need to further increase the difficulty and work required for an already complex piece like this by adding functional pegs all over the place.
As long as I can see the piece ...
Reverse engineering has never been a problem .
Even from a photo .
But true ...when you are dealing with HIGH RISK ventures like this project here ...best to take advice from someone who absolutely knows what they are doing .
Better yet is to learn from the master .
Any guesses as to the cost of the wood for one chair?
William charges $350 for materials/studio fee.
HOW MUCH..???
I would love do do that course, how much is it? Thanks
wnwoodworkingschool.com/blacker-house-inspired-chair-with-william-ng-31012-31712/
How on earth can the WOOD WHISPERER with a science background be afraid of a chair?
david
Why Sapele instead of Honduran Mahogany?
+John Laurence Poole That's just what was available in large quantities from the dealer. True Honduran mahogany is getting very hard to come by.
+The Wood Whisperer
Legend has it that the mahogany used by the Peter Hall shop (the
artisans retained by the Greene brothers) was Cuban mahogany,
Swietenia mahagoni. Honduran mahogany, Swietenia macrophylla, is readily available, although at high prices. Last time I went shopping, Honduran mahogany was still much less than teak. See Mahogany under Wikipedia.
Is this about making money or just having a hobby?