Great method. I love the Robert Lang book on the original Greene and Greene methods - awesome read. But the dye is a nice alternative to oxidizing with potassium dichromate. Thanks FineWoodworking!
This is beautiful work - I've watched this several times over the past couple of years to be sure I'd have it right when it came time to do the woodwork in my new house. That time has come! It now strikes me that the top coat process is an enormous undertaking for an entire house (wainscot, base, crown, doors, door and window trim, chair rail, etc.) What are your thoughts on Arm-r-seal satin or a mix of satin and semi-gloss to achieve something like your work?
Great lighting! Fancy camera work! Dolly shots through the doorway, (several times becomes distracting) boom shots, focus, auto-fades, etc. Overall effect is mesmerizing without the harsh stroboscopic shocks of commercial formal features, but constant motion is unnecessary and slightly annoying. Good audio balance between background music and narration. Kenny's voice is much more tolerable with this nice recording: Close mic'ed in a booth with a decent mic, EQ and compression. He sounds musical, melodic, pleasant, less whiney. A+ ! Great improvement! Love the fawn grey background with faux timber-frame accents. This set is easy on the eyes! Most shops will never be so neat. Still, it's a pleasing backdrop that does a good job promoting the fantasy of quiet craftsmanship from a bygone age. Someone at FW is paying attention to production value! Nice. Taunton must be trying to reestablish market dominance with "Avid fans" in this "Final Cut." Good Luck Fellas! As always, the Taunton writing /editing style is excellent, concise and casual. Good grammar promotes understanding, especially when narration is produced so professionally. Suggestions: Work on a larger vocabulary of camera tricks, or just use them less. Content is the new King. Like good musical technique, production technique is a means to an end, not the end itself. Keep the new mic and mic technique. That will help everyone of course, but Kenny's narration is greatly improved and those techniques bring out his best. Perhaps a different exterior mat wold help the illusion. That endless nascent autumn is soothing, but static. It seems a bit "Stepford-ish" after two or three videos. Good work! I hope my passive / aggressive observations are taken in the helpful humorous spirit from whence they came.
this is an excellent produced video, unfortunately this is not even close to the original Greene and Greene finishes used with the obvious modern oil based urethane used in the video Even when you substitute oil base varnish the approach is wrong. The original finishes were hand rubbed with multiple coats, built up with a custom blended oil mixture. As each coat is applied the natural color of the wood becomes deeper and richer in tone . I do agree this is a simple recipe for a good modern finish on new work, but i would not recommend this finish for antiques and your collectables
I know that this is 5 yrs old but, Randy, your criticism here is unnecessary. Right from the start, he explains that this is a modern day substitute. Anyone doing an antique restoration should know that the techniques used for a restoration should be authentic if you don't want to devalue or completely ruin the antique. However, if you are replicating an antique, then this process is perfectly acceptable.
Dye stains do NOT have a "more even pigmentation" (at the 2:05 mark). Dyes have NO pigmentation. They are dyes. They are not pigments. It's either/or, dye or pigment. Dyes sit in the wood cell, pigments are granular products that sit ON TOP of the surface. It's the difference between getting a tan vs. applying brown makeup. What you should have said and maybe what you meant to say was that dyes have a more even coloring. In that this video is made by a woodworking magazine, your copy editors should have caught this wrong information regarding what a dye stain is and what it isn't. Wood finishing is hard enough for novices. Getting the terminologies and the lexicon mixed up, as was done egregiously in this video, makes it even harder for neophyte wood finishers. Vernacular matters. Wrong information is BAD information. Not acceptable.
I'm 76, 56 years as an Old World/School carpenter- contractor, done a great deal of wood finishing and understand exactly your intent, though it may come across as hostile. Truth is always a burden all round. Having said that, if we don't get the words right, we've no one to blame but ourselves if things don't go as they should. Words matter: many people have died because of words. Greetings, from beautiful Victoria, BC!
You must be a righteous pain to live with. It's a minor mistake, but it's clear you like to make the proverbial storm in a tea cup. Relax. Life is more enjoyable when you let go.😊
@@LitoGeorge If accuracy bothers you, be bothered, but butt out. There's nothing wrong with adding in a comment to set the record straight. In your world, everone remains ignorant. I don't live in that world. You take exception to someone you should not. Instead, sit back and learn. Maybe ask a question? Too bad for you because you have a unique opportunity to learn from me, and instead you think you know enough. Your loss.
@@grubbetuchus it's not the accuracy that bothers me in the slightest. I learned something from it. But the way you make a mountain out a mole hill, is what makes you a real pain in the rear. You continue your ways in this latest retort, such underscores what a self righteous """ you are. Carry on grubby, you enjoy your miserable life
Nothing beats the look of mahogany and a simple wax finish. No dyes or colour process needed. Can be expensive though.
Great method. I love the Robert Lang book on the original Greene and Greene methods - awesome read. But the dye is a nice alternative to oxidizing with potassium dichromate. Thanks FineWoodworking!
Thanks! that was a awesome how to on achieving a great finish.
Would have been nice if you had said what products you were using
This is beautiful work - I've watched this several times over the past couple of years to be sure I'd have it right when it came time to do the woodwork in my new house. That time has come! It now strikes me that the top coat process is an enormous undertaking for an entire house (wainscot, base, crown, doors, door and window trim, chair rail, etc.) What are your thoughts on Arm-r-seal satin or a mix of satin and semi-gloss to achieve something like your work?
I appreciate this tutorial
Great lighting! Fancy camera work! Dolly shots through the doorway, (several times becomes distracting) boom shots, focus, auto-fades, etc. Overall effect is mesmerizing without the harsh stroboscopic shocks of commercial formal features, but constant motion is unnecessary and slightly annoying.
Good audio balance between background music and narration. Kenny's voice is much more tolerable with this nice recording: Close mic'ed in a booth with a decent mic, EQ and compression. He sounds musical, melodic, pleasant, less whiney. A+ ! Great improvement!
Love the fawn grey background with faux timber-frame accents. This set is easy on the eyes! Most shops will never be so neat. Still, it's a pleasing backdrop that does a good job promoting the fantasy of quiet craftsmanship from a bygone age.
Someone at FW is paying attention to production value! Nice. Taunton must be trying to reestablish market dominance with "Avid fans" in this "Final Cut." Good Luck Fellas!
As always, the Taunton writing /editing style is excellent, concise and casual.
Good grammar promotes understanding, especially when narration is produced so professionally.
Suggestions: Work on a larger vocabulary of camera tricks, or just use them less. Content is the new King. Like good musical technique, production technique is a means to an end, not the end itself.
Keep the new mic and mic technique. That will help everyone of course, but Kenny's narration is greatly improved and those techniques bring out his best.
Perhaps a different exterior mat wold help the illusion. That endless nascent autumn is soothing, but static. It seems a bit "Stepford-ish" after two or three videos.
Good work! I hope my passive / aggressive observations are taken in the helpful humorous spirit from whence they came.
everyone being all critical about ridiculous things and i'm just wondering if there's a video on the construction of the frame itself?
never mind, found it :)
@@stevelafrate1968 where?
@@gregl2249 that was 4 years ago. i'm sorry i do not remember
i remember the same video from over a year ago
this is an excellent produced video, unfortunately this is not even close to the original Greene and Greene finishes used with the obvious modern oil based urethane used in the video Even when you substitute oil base varnish the approach is wrong. The original finishes were hand rubbed with multiple coats, built up with a custom blended oil mixture. As each coat is applied the natural color of the wood becomes deeper and richer in tone . I do agree this is a simple recipe for a good modern finish on new work, but i would not recommend this finish for antiques and your collectables
I know that this is 5 yrs old but, Randy, your criticism here is unnecessary. Right from the start, he explains that this is a modern day substitute. Anyone doing an antique restoration should know that the techniques used for a restoration should be authentic if you don't want to devalue or completely ruin the antique. However, if you are replicating an antique, then this process is perfectly acceptable.
Dye stains do NOT have a "more even pigmentation" (at the 2:05 mark). Dyes have NO pigmentation. They are dyes. They are not pigments. It's either/or, dye or pigment. Dyes sit in the wood cell, pigments are granular products that sit ON TOP of the surface. It's the difference between getting a tan vs. applying brown makeup.
What you should have said and maybe what you meant to say was that dyes have a more even coloring. In that this video is made by a woodworking magazine, your copy editors should have caught this wrong information regarding what a dye stain is and what it isn't. Wood finishing is hard enough for novices. Getting the terminologies and the lexicon mixed up, as was done egregiously in this video, makes it even harder for neophyte wood finishers. Vernacular matters. Wrong information is BAD information. Not acceptable.
I'm 76, 56 years as an Old World/School carpenter- contractor, done a great deal of wood finishing and understand exactly your intent, though it may come across as hostile. Truth is always a burden all round.
Having said that, if we don't get the words right, we've no one to blame but ourselves if things don't go as they should. Words matter: many people have died because of words.
Greetings, from beautiful Victoria, BC!
You must be a righteous pain to live with. It's a minor mistake, but it's clear you like to make the proverbial storm in a tea cup. Relax. Life is more enjoyable when you let go.😊
@@LitoGeorge If accuracy bothers you, be bothered, but butt out. There's nothing wrong with adding in a comment to set the record straight. In your world, everone remains ignorant. I don't live in that world. You take exception to someone you should not. Instead, sit back and learn. Maybe ask a question? Too bad for you because you have a unique opportunity to learn from me, and instead you think you know enough. Your loss.
@@grubbetuchus it's not the accuracy that bothers me in the slightest. I learned something from it. But the way you make a mountain out a mole hill, is what makes you a real pain in the rear. You continue your ways in this latest retort, such underscores what a self righteous """ you are. Carry on grubby, you enjoy your miserable life